Has Bazball gone too far? | Willow Talk

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  • Опубліковано 7 лис 2024
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    Adam Peacock, Brad Haddin and Ben Horne recap India's record 434-run win over England in the third Test in Rajkot and ask whether England's Bazball approach under Brendon McCullum and Ben Stokes is starting to backfire, especially for star batter Joe Root.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 76

  • @charlesjesudason2707
    @charlesjesudason2707 8 місяців тому +68

    It's a 434 runs win!

  • @Chilipipanulu
    @Chilipipanulu 8 місяців тому +37

    It’s 434 runs not 343 🤣🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🤣

    • @nijitsharma8004
      @nijitsharma8004 8 місяців тому

      😮😢😢😢😮😮😮7😮😮

  • @rambabu0276
    @rambabu0276 8 місяців тому +16

    It is 434 not 342 or somethinh

  • @sushrutjoshi1
    @sushrutjoshi1 8 місяців тому +1

    On umpires call, Nasser Hussain has an excellent video on youtube about why the DRS and umpires call... worth looking at that.

  • @sureshss3101
    @sureshss3101 8 місяців тому +7

    Bazball has won nothing big tbh😂 Can’t even win ashes at home. Couldn’t win in NZ. Can’t win in India. Just chasing runs in those wickets which dont change much doesn’t make Bazball dangerous. Bazball has crept arrogance in these players. Jimmy talking crap chasing anything in 70 overs, Baz saying they can chase 600😂 or all those stupid talks by duckett😅 Bazball is just hype.

    • @santoshraghavan7662
      @santoshraghavan7662 8 місяців тому +2

      Fully agree with you.. bazball has done nothing of significance..these guys keep showing 15 out of 20 etc but in terms of series and WTC points it's just nothing

  • @ushanperera7331
    @ushanperera7331 8 місяців тому +10

    you cant compare joes roots bazball and pre baz ball stats because pre baz ball he maintained an average of 49 throught out 100 plus test matches this is just 10 or 15 games

    • @santoshraghavan7662
      @santoshraghavan7662 8 місяців тому

      Very very very well said..this is the same point I had.. the sample size is way too different and the average even then is just a difference of 2 runs ..

    • @jkjkjkjkjk537
      @jkjkjkjkjk537 8 місяців тому

      And how many of those runs were made on absolute belters? Root pre Bazball almost always came in to bat at 20/2 facing the new ball and averaged 50. In the Bazball era he had a better cushion of facing an older ball along with flatter tracks. The jump in average is negligible when you consider the rise in higher risk % strokes he plays.

  • @hiralaldey454
    @hiralaldey454 8 місяців тому +9

    its a 434 runs win and not 334 run

  • @ayazahmed2896
    @ayazahmed2896 8 місяців тому +7

    It's 434 runs win

  • @shashanksingh3982
    @shashanksingh3982 8 місяців тому +4

    If one can't acknowledge their defeat in its face....
    Then
    Their win can always get unacknowledged equally as well...

  • @jetpark3743
    @jetpark3743 8 місяців тому +4

    Jadeja is the best all rounder since Jacques Kallis

  • @rohintonmistry1314
    @rohintonmistry1314 8 місяців тому +2

    Obviously people still hope England couldl win 2 Test matches and the series . One more loss and the daggers will be out, then it would be interesting to see how long the English men continue with their bazzball approach. Game ON

  • @HiggsBosonBlues2020
    @HiggsBosonBlues2020 8 місяців тому

    My first thoughts when the video began was, I will not be judging this guys sincerity and the value of his commentary by the lakers hat. But mate, you didnt disappoint. When you're correcting yourself to still be wrong, its just not your day. Seems like the people around you couldnt care any less either. But, the rest of the analyses still had some value, so its not all that bad.

  • @neeraj-singh
    @neeraj-singh 8 місяців тому

    Is the batting average mentioned here is before after bazzball or same number of innings average played just before bazzball and after?

  • @ramansv3681
    @ramansv3681 8 місяців тому +1

    They want to play the fearless brand of cricket. But the 2nd innings in Rajkot looked like complete opposite. Both teams looked like they were playing on different pitches. They cant blame the pitch. But they should agree that they faltered. This is bound to happen when you happen to play rash shots instead of being smart and play to the match situation. At least this match could have gone to the 5th day.

  • @vivekbhagat114
    @vivekbhagat114 8 місяців тому +7

    434 win mate

  • @Kateelizabeth-l3s
    @Kateelizabeth-l3s 8 місяців тому +2

    As a Pommie it pains me to say, but I agree with everything you guys said!

  • @Believer17_
    @Believer17_ 8 місяців тому +1

    England can do it but to do they are doing it very ultra positive way this india side in home test series 😊😊 just too strong ..just too much ..but I will go with bazball ..it's interesting..pat Cummins trapped whole team in final in WTC ...india in home just too good

  • @Dontrush_94
    @Dontrush_94 8 місяців тому +4

    Dude that's 434 runs....😂

  • @gaichunggonmei
    @gaichunggonmei 8 місяців тому +2

    All the talks of Bazball but strange things is their captain Ben Stokes is not even playing Bazball style of cricket 😂😂 he's playing conventional test innings 🤣🤣🤣

    • @ramansv3681
      @ramansv3681 8 місяців тому

      Bazball is nothing but aggressive style of approach and play shots as per their comfort. Ben Stokes is a smart guy. So, he is playing conventional test cricket and when required he will switch gears.

    • @zealous623
      @zealous623 8 місяців тому

      ​@@ramansv3681Ben Stokes hasn't been able to play any of the approaches comfortably in this series. If he couldn't play conventionally like Joe or Foakes play, he didn't even try to be aggressive. Has been full of talks and changing field frequently yet having no much impact on Indian batting.

  • @pradeepchandrasekaran4087
    @pradeepchandrasekaran4087 8 місяців тому

    Guys u r missing the point about Root, he was bradmanesque for 3 yrs before bazball, and he was playing at a high strike rate

  • @ramansv3681
    @ramansv3681 8 місяців тому

    Everyone is complaining England for their fearlessness in the approach towards playing the Test cricket. When the Hyderabad test match was won, Bazball won. But when the England team lost, Bazball failed. All the criticism is not fair. We need to wait till the end of the Test series to see how Bazball has worked for the England team.

    • @fitnessfreaks9877
      @fitnessfreaks9877 8 місяців тому

      People are criticising cuz of the ignorant/arrogant statements by the players and the management in media. It reeks of arrogance drenched in delusions, if you win all credits go to you no problems with that whatsoever,but when you lose you gotta accept the defeat with grace and be humble enough to admit the opposition outplayed you and you'll come out fo it strong in the next game. That's why they're facing harsh criticism! People are not stupid everywhere who are criticising the so called bazball bs.

    • @zealous623
      @zealous623 8 місяців тому

      ​@@fitnessfreaks9877Exactly. Let them keep taking the credits and moral victories and even take credits for real victories of the opponent teams😂.

  • @TheEnpee
    @TheEnpee 8 місяців тому

    *Viv Richards, Matt Hayden, Adam Gilchrist, Virendra Sehwag ? Its Ben Duckett, silly, who invented Bazball with just one innings. No wonder Len Hutton is the greatest ever opener !*

  • @MeiA-h9r
    @MeiA-h9r 8 місяців тому

    That Ben Duckett comment about Jaiswal rubs people the wrong way
    And they wonder why so many people hate them and root against them

  • @charlessobhraj1334
    @charlessobhraj1334 2 місяці тому

    So many cricket podcasts but none of them invite an Umpire, a Match Referee and a Third Umpire to get the complete picture...when you are talking about the "Game of Cricket" and the most important decision makers are absolutely ignored...says a lot about the UA-cam game of earning money and trying to sound right...If you really like the game to grow, include everyone in your podcasts...Groundsmen, Umpires, Match Referees, people from the cricket boards...when you guys talk about the pitches and outfields and make comments, why only speak to the players??? If you are a Cricket Podcaster, then do the all round thing...

  • @abansalify
    @abansalify 8 місяців тому

    What is bazball again?

  • @SkeletorsSon
    @SkeletorsSon 8 місяців тому

    Not like we've ever won anything test wise in India

  • @ketandamle7729
    @ketandamle7729 8 місяців тому

    Bazball is like driving on a highway without ever using brakes sooner or later you will crash.

  • @saptarshipaul1928
    @saptarshipaul1928 8 місяців тому

    They will chase 600 vs Bumrah, Ashwin, Jadeja and Kuldeep. 🤣🤣

  • @ganadipanrout3907
    @ganadipanrout3907 8 місяців тому

    If you get rid of umpire’s call there will be no fun in test cricket atleast cuz bowlers are hitting the stumps every now and then..game will be over in 2 days🙏

  • @dannyboy9573
    @dannyboy9573 8 місяців тому

    Old mate stole this from Robert Craddock at 4:30

  • @CricNazz
    @CricNazz 8 місяців тому

    After that shot is joe a fab 4 ? Is joe lost in the hoax of bazball?

  • @DK-dq8bu
    @DK-dq8bu 8 місяців тому

    Jaiswal has been playing like he does is how he plays in IPL, not because of Bazball. He doesn’t have to.

    • @jay4cee
      @jay4cee 8 місяців тому

      According to Duckett Jaiswal is a result of Bazball influence. He must be joking.

    • @zealous623
      @zealous623 8 місяців тому

      Yes, and he has very good defensive techniques due to which Duckett should be one of the last persons taking credit of Jaiswal's approach😂.

  • @shoeb4uf
    @shoeb4uf 8 місяців тому

    why r ppl criticizing only root? why not bairstow, why not pope? why only root?
    bairstow looks like a walking wicket nw a days... i think after his 100th test match england would dump him like last nights chutney...

  • @endthestreamdave8023
    @endthestreamdave8023 8 місяців тому

    434 runs please get that right😂😂

  • @shoeb4uf
    @shoeb4uf 8 місяців тому

    bazball is ok only for crawley and duckett... they dont have the defensive game... they cannot play the spinning ball or moving ball for longer periods of time...they have to go for shots, else they become useless to the team...
    edit - so is bairstow... i think jonny should just go guns blazing from the start if he wants to contribute to the team,

  • @reggie1282
    @reggie1282 8 місяців тому

    Aussies talking about being humble is a little ironic? :) But all in good faith.

  • @palusingh8681
    @palusingh8681 8 місяців тому

    434 runs victory

  • @ThawrisatBasumatary
    @ThawrisatBasumatary 8 місяців тому

    England can beat pak by bazball but india is different then pak everytime luck will not stand up

  • @radhapandey7073
    @radhapandey7073 8 місяців тому +1

    English needs to bring back Andy Flower or Gary Kirsten as red ball format coach and make " Baz " the Brandon McMullam the white ball coach.
    I will prefer sensible ball compared to reckless Bazball shit in Test cricket.

  • @kavinshah6768
    @kavinshah6768 8 місяців тому

    434 correct it

  • @vineethkumars3863
    @vineethkumars3863 8 місяців тому

    Ok as an indian team fan i respect root class but he is no 3 order batsman what the hell he is coming at batting order 4 .hehas forget to play his class old style .adapting to base ball cause his failure.. though i like Indian team win miss jos butler you really mess with him .. crawly is only one who knows to spin rest spinners are waste root is there to spin you England team mess with all these that is your problem.

  • @amwayward7556
    @amwayward7556 8 місяців тому

    434!! Atleast post a correction ya silly bats! It’s the largest defeat for England in past 90years!!

  • @ulhasdeshmukh9553
    @ulhasdeshmukh9553 8 місяців тому

    You cannot win in India with this kind of spinners with your part time spinner Joe Root better than your main spinners. 😡😡😡

  • @RiteshKumar-xk8vv
    @RiteshKumar-xk8vv 8 місяців тому

    Jaiswal win by 92 runs

  • @d9sinha
    @d9sinha 8 місяців тому

    434.343

  • @rameshreddy2565
    @rameshreddy2565 8 місяців тому

    Bazball invented by English as cricket
    Apply for a patent please

  • @nishantnilay3242
    @nishantnilay3242 8 місяців тому

    bazball - because they cant defend

  • @doccy2006
    @doccy2006 8 місяців тому

    Bazball is dead now... More than bazball, the English team members' language in front of media is the problem

    • @P19-h8f
      @P19-h8f 8 місяців тому

      Great point by Haddin❤

  • @a4ajitava015
    @a4ajitava015 8 місяців тому

    it's 434 rans 😂

    • @a4ajitava015
      @a4ajitava015 8 місяців тому

      i think you also can't believe it 😂

  • @amansandhuz5877
    @amansandhuz5877 8 місяців тому

    Man sleepy joe is better then u .. 343 or 434😢

  • @abhijitkumarjha4134
    @abhijitkumarjha4134 8 місяців тому

    434😅

  • @SubrataSinha-k7k
    @SubrataSinha-k7k 8 місяців тому

    Bazzbol rip English team under pocket gone your country India no 1 world best team

  • @CricNazz
    @CricNazz 8 місяців тому

    434 😂

  • @nishantkhanna8222
    @nishantkhanna8222 8 місяців тому

    That’s what happens when you are drink on the job

  • @DK-dq8bu
    @DK-dq8bu 8 місяців тому

    Bazball is a joke and it’s not even funny.Why can’t they play Normal cricket.

  • @SpiritualSoul01
    @SpiritualSoul01 8 місяців тому

    you guys are trying to get credit of jaiswals achievements just like ben duckket. lol. Bullshit