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_"No idea should be above ridicule. Ridicule is a very important tool and I think ridicule points to people, gets them to think about what they're doing. And why should religion not be subject to ridicule, if politics is subject to ridicule, science, sex, if everything else in the world is subject to ridicule as a way of illuminating reality."_ - Dr. Lawrence Krauss, physicist.
Absolutely no beliefs deserve intrinsic respect. We need to ridicule those who take unsubstantiated claims seriously AND tries to push those as facts, especially when they indoctrinate children into those unsubstantiated claims.
^ Agree with all of the above. Though the comparison to Area 51 is a strange choice. We really don't know what the government does and doesn't have hidden away somewhere. I'm not saying there are aliens at Area 51 but I am saying that we don't know that and it is possible, so it isn't the same as religion.
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I am religious, but I do believe that you are right about being critical of religion. I was once in a service where a woman came up and asked a priest a critical question. (One that could not be answered by quoting one obscure verse) and this old lady next to her told her that “we don’t ask those kinds of questions.” That kind of behavior is what causes any belief to gain to much power and control. I really liked your video, and look forward to new ones.
i don't understand how you can still be religious after admitting it's the right thing to be critical of it... once you simply walk the walk and scrutinize it without a bias, you'll realize there's *nothing* to it. but: don't take my word for it, just test your faith by *reading the bible* (or qu'ran or any other holy book your religion follows) front to back. if it was perfect and meant to be both timeless AND in book form, logically, every sincere translation must remain to be perfect or the original wasn't, either. so you can choose any version there is.
If you're really intellectually honest with yourself, you will end up being an atheist soon. But, if you decide to cherry pick stuff from the Bible and be intellectually dishonest with yourself, there's no hope for you.
Look, I'm an Atheist, but you need to understand one thing here. If they want to believe in a god, that's fine. The problem comes when they deny science. Neither you or I know what kind of religious person Ninja is, so we cannot criticize him until we know the position. For all we know, he could just believe that a god caused the big bang, and we have 0 evidence against that. (I don't believe that and I'm aware that there is no evidence for that belief either) but it doesn't change the fact that you can accept religion whilst being scientifically literate.
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If an adult still believed in Santa you think they were insane but religion is no different to me and it genuinely worries me that so many people buy into it 100%, so much for human intelligence.
indeed a young child talking to their imaginary friend = cute a single adult person talking to their imaginary friend = mental illness a large group all having the same imaginary friend = religion
santa claus: knows who is naughty, knows who is nice. god: knows who is naughty, knows who is nice. santa claus: seemingly never ending carols god: really never ending carols
I give it the same respect i give people who believe in the easter bunny or believes in a flat earth, ill give my fellow man the respect they deserve but in not going to promote or endorse cognitive dissonance in any way, and if thats considered disrespectful to the idea then i suppose not
The thing that always annoys me is that religious proffesionals (vicars, priests, imams, bishops etc.) always expect to be treated with reverence. I'm an athiest but I am expected to treat these guys with respect. They basically spend their lives talking about their imaginary friend (and get paid for it). Does that deserve respect? If someone wants to pay me for talking about the tooth fairy I'll take your money, but I would expect to be ridiculed.
+Scylla 2112 " They basically spend their lives talking about their imaginary friend (and get paid for it)." Sounds like E-Sports ;-) Only E Sports is not a multi billion dollar thing enjoying tax exemptions and manyfold societal protections... and has not even remotely as much respect ascribed as the LARP for that other imaginary bullshit...
It is a tough one. Many mean it well. They are educated people who also happen to know about stuff and can give people really good advice. And I think that many rituals are good to have (funerals, weddings...). I do not think they are that different from palm readers and astrologists, some might give good advice as well, but it is all rubbish and when it comes to good advice you might get slightly better chances with psychologist. What bothers me about religion are all the exceptions being made (tax exemptions are only the beginning of it). They should be treated the same as any other group with the same interest (like chess clubs). They can follow the same rules for non-profit or for-profit organizations. And they do not deserve to be treated better just because they believe in crazy stuff in larger numbers.
There's no reason to respect their stupid opinions. They are making uneducated guesses, peddling false hopes and promulgating a sick morality. You never see one break sweat. They have to keep their little hands soft to fondle your kid..
@@Ugly_German_Truths how is it even remotely like eSports? I'm pretty involved in the industry, and I'm curious. Also, it's not a multi billion dollar thing just yet, but it is a million dollar thing already
No you should not treat them with the reverence they ask for Jesus said the greatest one around you is to be your minister and serve you,Jesus showed that by washing his disciples feet ,which was the job of the servant of the house.
"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship. Try to be more like him instead of just quoting him...
@@SharonBalloch -- when your personal beliefs cause you to support political systems designed to enforce your "personal" beliefs upon others, then you will be met with resistance.
@Smokey 420 -- so basically you are a triggered snowflake. Got it. Atheists only seem to have contempt for people who lack the mental capacity to understand the false religion they follow. It's just like hate the sin, not the sinner BS you like to do. For you, atheists that claim to be loving and aren't should be expected. What doesn't seem to bother you are all the christians that claim to be loving and show every single day that they really aren't.
I was honestly shocked when, as I ventured into the English-speaking internet, I discovered that there were actually real people in USA that are convinced evolution is not a thing and god literally created the world a few thousand years ago. I'm till not sure I believe those people are any more numerous than flat earthers, but still, that was fun to learn lol.
While I agree with what you've said so far, the Virgin birth isn't completely illogical. There are a few cases of weird ways women got pregnant Edit: I meant to put this in the general chat, not specially replying to anyone
When I was in my second year of university I took a course on Earth Sciences(geology). My textbook was The History of Life written by A. Lee McAlester of Yale University. It was put out by Prentice-Hall in 1968. On pages 12-13 he states Because unmistakable traces of primitive plants are found in rocks more than 2 billion years old, it is strange that fossil evidence for animal life begins abruptly only 600 million years ago. And it is still more puzzling that the first abundant animal fossils are not primitive forms, but advanced invertebrates such as trilobites and brachiopods. Their presence in Early Cambrian time suggests that animals, like primitive plants, had a long Precambrian history, but so far, intensive search has yielded only a few Precambrian animals. Before returning to possible causes for the sudden appearance of advanced animal life... My geology professor said that the theory of evolution rests upon 6 sets of skulls. These facts support the creationist viewpoint.
@@roberteaston6413 this is completely untrue. A good place to start, if your interested of the evidence for evolution. Is The Greatest Show on Earth, The Evidence for Evolution, it’s a great book for anyone interested in learning about the facts of evolution. It’s also available on you tube as an audio book.
I always tell people, I respect the fact that people can believe whatever they want, but that doesn't mean I have to respect their ridiculous beliefs themselves. Religious people can be good, kind-hearted people who I can love and respect as a person, but their ideas about reality are still beyond nonsensical and deserve harsh criticism.
zeldajerk the regular every day religious personality is very good in most caes. Mostly because they don't follow all the rules and don't push their beliefs on others. My in-laws were devout SDA but never said anything ( your life is yours) and i never pushed my views either. They did start questioning their faith at the end, but stuck with it to the end. Then the church stole alot of the inheritance. Great deal.
If they believe in religion, then it is bad. They may have been geniuses in other areas, but the fact that this one thing gone through their nonsense filter, then it is bad.
Everyone has the right to their own belief and is responsible for what they do with it, or not. If you don't believe in their beliefs then you owe it to yourself not to take notice but as I said, it is their personal responsibility not yours.
colin Paterson. Bad ideas spread if ignored. Either they are right or they are just woo looking for a new way to take adavange of some peoples lack of education or their desperation and must be dragged out and forced to live in the light of reality
People tell me to respect their religion all the time, but I tell them it's disrespectful to tell me I'll been for eternity just because I don't agree with stories that have no truth.
Not just scientists (referring to experimental science) but also historians, archeologists, paleontologists, anthropologists, litterateurs, astronomers and an overwhelming majority of teachers and doctors mock creationists as well.
I would try and get other doctors. If someone believes that life can just appear by magic, you might not want to risk putting your health in their hands
Only theists believe that a magic wizard took a rock and magicked it into a man, well dust, or mud, or clay, or whatever it is that your personal creation myth says. Abiogenesis was a gradual slope of certain chemicals interacting in completely natural ways, leading to self-replication causing natural selection which drove an increase of complexity over billions of years and the natural evolution which eventually brought about humans, all completely reasonable with tons of evidence to support it. While we have replicated many steps of abiogenesis and have decent working theories of how it happened and understand the naturalistic explanations behind it. No magic of any kind has any corroborating evidence.
Not to be a dick but for the most part I mostly see aethiest doing it just to troll. Look I'm catholic I will never deny I'm catholic but I'm not gonna force it on you or anyone else I'd love it if you find god in some way but till then you do an I'll say a prayer for you.
Tyler Heidenreich The beliefs aren't all there is to a person. Religion only makes up one part of them. So even if you hate that part of a person do not hate the entire person itself. That's what respect is about. Seeing value in someone on the most basic level. Seeing them as a human being. We're all human.
redsnake188 What would we be trolling for? We seriously just have no good reason to believe in your stuff. We're not claiming you're wrong, we could all be wrong. Do you honestly think that we don't want to "find god"? That we just like to sin so much? We are truly not capable of having faith, of believing in something with no base evidence to support that belief. I have nothing against you as a person, but I just don't see the world the same as yours.
If there is one thing that frustrates me to no end is when i'm told (not asked, TOLD) to leave the bible alone and stop annoying people about how crazy, far fetched and dangerous it is.
And yet they won't leave you alone on a Saturday morning and show up at your door asking if you've heard about their Lord and Savior. Of course we've heard of him! It's 2018, and they're everywhere. Who freaking hasn't?!
Holy Koolaid to be honest i don't get bugged much by preachers or beLIEvers, unless i start the argument myself. Jeovah's guys come by only every other month, and the local priest is chill, very moderate, more on charity than on sheer belief. The issue is the general attitude of the people. I live in a town of 1200 people where the average age is over 50. That's practically the Standard Good Christian Town where everyone knows everyone, we're all friends, all cool, saluting as you pass along the street, ask to send regards to the family and all that. But you try to say you are an atheist, some of them look at you as if you had a swastika on your face.
not aTheist i find quite amusing moving the copy of the bible of our local library to the "fantasy and sci fi" section. Somehow, the librarian fails to notice it until it's pointed out to her ;)
@Enjoy and Travel The World! Actually... Nurses are _very_ well educated, at least where I live. But that makes it even more ridiculous that the wife would believe something that flies in the face of virtually every branch of science there is. It really is insanity.
I was indoctrinated into all that silly stuff as a kid and believed it hold heartedly for years. Now all my family and friends still believe and look down on me because I don't. 😥
Death is the reason people are so hard to sway away from the insanity that is religion people don't want to die and religion gives them "everlasting life" Instead of facing the harsh reality that after death we may cease to exist. It's my believe that that's why religion was created for in the first place.
Harsh reality that after death we cease to exist? Really? Please tell us how you know that, Jay. Let God be true and every man a liar. It is appointed unto man once to die but after this the judgment" (Hebrews 9:27).
+Ray Winsor All of neurology and biology points to us only existing within our brain and when our brain dies nothing EVER departs from it that could possibly store your consciousness and memories and that as i said is completely supported by everything we know about how the real world works while claims of afterlives only exist within mythologies written by people who knew nothing about how the world works.
Might as well kill ourselves now then, especially since most of us are on hate lists. Life's not worth all this pain and suffering, especially if I'm as nothing to the universe as I am to other people.
@@AJROtheWriter That's more or less the more serious equivalent of a kid holding their breath for being told not to expect getting a gift for every single day they've been a good boy/girl.
one that promotes slavery, subordinates females, demands hatred and sanctimony towards lgbt individuals, provides judgment towards eating certain functionally edible things and wearing different fabrics, et al. at that! absolutely tribal and absurdly outdated.
Once more Venerable Fulton Sheen: "Conscience, Christ, and the gift of faith make ev1l men uneasy in their sin. They feel that if they could drive Christ from the earth, they would be free from "moral inhibitions." They forget that it is their own nature and conscience which makes them feel that way. Being unable to drive God from the heavens, they would drive his ambassadors from the earth. In a lesser sphere, that is why many men sneer at virtue--because it makes vice uncomfortable."
I remember once, when I was a church goer, that a pastor said that there are websites that criticize the church and that we should not go looking for them nor should we read what they tell. He legit poisoned the well for me that lasted years. I strayed away from sites such as he told us about and from ideas that conflicted the mystical fables I was raised to believe. I was taught that doubt was a kin to sin, but thanks to creators such as yourself I now see more openly. Thank you.
Only a fragile position would require cognitive isolation to protect it. Glad to see you got the courage to ask the hard questions and explore for yourself. :)
Jasser Torres I think that is counter productive. If something is true, then it should be able to stand up against conflicting arguments. The fact is when you look deeper and you really see where the Bible came from, everything falls apart. I myself used to be a Christian up until about 10 years ago when I did a serious search on the Internet of the origins of the Bible. It took me about six months to fully transition into an atheist after my first Internet search. Those six months were harsh on my being and I fell into depression because everything I knew was wrong. But after that, I now feel like a new person. I no longer have to feel guilty for being a human, I can do things that were considered evil according to my old beliefs. And since this is the only life I know I will get I appreciate it so much more, I appreciate the extremely small chance of my existence because I didn’t have to be here. But I’m a part of the universe and I’m so happy.
alic seprin they say that it's good to see other churches and that they're sure that they "are the one" but don't want you looking for the arguments against them
+Jasser Torres " I was taught that doubt was a kin to sin," Nah, nothing even remotely alike... for one thing doubt exists. Sin is just a convenient excuse for the observation that despite god obviously being all pwoerful and benevolent and shit, the world is still gong down the crapper one turd at a time... so how to explain that? ohhh. i know! This undetectable, unmeasurable, unquantifiable force that is basically identical to human nature if you let nature run its course (lying, stealing, cheating...) so that the victims of the indoctrinated mindset will feel guilty about being themselves and seek "forgiveness" through even more rules and payments to make to the church in lieu of "the offended party"...
Scientologists do that too. They know that once you realize that it's all bullshit, they lose power over you and your money. Its the same with Christianity.
Speaking as someone who's created two other humans I now intend demanding they write a book about my greatness, build a church and worship me once a week.
Seriously you should have more subscribers. I mean I had a debate with my brother about this yesterday and was asked to respect his belief as a christian.
Holy Koolaid I just told him religion brings more harm than good and told him that religion has been the biggest business for ages and its like a cartel selling people comfort drugs but next time if this happens I would take your approach and break it to him softly. Thanks for your contribution to society, sir. Even though its minor it brings a change to all 46000 of you suscribers.
Aniket Minz biggest issue with religion is getting emotionally invested in an answer that your willing to do anything to conform reality to what you believe instead of the other way around. My best friend is a later day saint and I know he’s smart enough to realize there is issues with his religion that doesn’t fit with reality. Maybe I’m salty about religion since it has been the source of inhibiting the advancement of society for the longest time. Only in the last 100-200 years we have achieved so much with critical thinking which religion doesn’t allow.
Not really a new atheist (almost 10 years now), but I'd still register in your mailing list in the hopes I might learn new things that I missed all this time.
Heres a phone number u may have missed, 9308323 *12 reasons that prove atheism is a self-defeating, irrational worldview* According to philosophers like Jean Paul Sartre and Fred Nietzsche atheism is indeed a worldview created by self confessed, semi-literate apes who desperately want God not to exist for the freedom to self indulge their own hedonistic, trivial and totally unsatisfying pursuits. *It is an unwavering commitment to the philosophy of scientific materialism.* In layman's terms it merely asserts that mindless matter is the only game in town. A stupid claim since the physical realm is defined by a remarkable set of immaterial universal laws and abstract mathematics. The proof for God's existence is hidden in plain sight for the same reasons a thief cant find a policeman - No atheist wants to discuss ultimate origins particularly matter and energy (cosmic or chemical evolution) Unless they want to embrace the logical absurdity of an infinite regress of past physical events or states, the FINITUDE of the past demands Creation ex nihilo. If there is no atemporal non contingent, all powerful, immaterial reality there would be nothing, no molecules, no matter, no man, nothing but non existence. So how does the typically high profile denier get around explaining *why there is something rather than nothing.* Apparently quite easily: 1) atheism is merely a non belief and makes no claims ((Baker) 2) we dont know yet but science will one day tell us (how everything came from absolutely nothing - naturally of course!) 3) "a law such as gravity created (itself and then) the universe out of nothing" (Hawking) 4 evolution u fool, is about life changing, not about the actual origin of the 1st complex molecule or living cell. (or was it nothing to helium to humans?) 5) aliens likely seeded earth but that lifeform must have arisen by natural selection elsewhere in the universe (Dawkins) 6) "Evolution by natural selection is merely a theory that no matter how counter intuitive, we are forced to embrace it, because of our a priori adherence to material causes” we get u "cant let a divine foot in the door." Ric Lewontin 7)"Biologists must constantly keep in mind that what they see was not designed, but rather evolved". (Crick) “Even if all the evidence points to an intelligent designer, it must be excluded from science b/c it is not naturalistic” (Todd) 8) “Biology is the study of complicated things that have the APPEARANCE of design for a purpose” "for we are the power and the glory for ever and ever." 9)“The core of the humanistic philosophy is naturalism”. So mindless mater is the only game in town, then? 10) “It is not the methods of science that compels us to accept a material explanation, it is our a priori adherence to material causes…. 11) *“no evidence would be sufficient to create a change in mind, *it is not a commitment to the evidence but to naturalism”. 12) ) Do “some people believe whatever they want not on the basis of evidence but what they find attractive” (Blasé Pascal) Was Darwin spot-on in suggesting that we shouldn’t expect a mind evolved from lower animals to be at all trustworthy? Ergo, on whose authority can a materialist then claim that anything that comes out of his brain chemistry is authoritative? And that leads to the most revealing admission by a prominent biologist and staunch atheist *“Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against COMMON SENSE is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism"* Now guess what staunch atheist conceded that honest appraisal of Darwinian Evolution? "Seeking to be wise they become like fools. They exchange the truth of God for a lie."
I gotta be honest, when it comes to religious ideas, I'm not usually laughing at them because my blood is usually boiling due to these delusionals that try to force them on us. My eldest aunt on my dad's side is very religious and one night I tried to tell her that I don't go to church anymore and to stop forcing me to. She comes at me with "We did not raise you this way", "You're hurting your father", "You need to thank God for giving you a roof over your head and a loving father", "God is not invisible". Introverted as I am, and angry as I was, I was mostly just speechless, but inside my mind was a raging storm, the most intense claps of thunder being "You have just given me zero reason to take anything you say seriously. You are F***ING DELUSIONAL!!!". I tell this little event to show that we're not just justified for mockery, we're justified for being furious, because religious BS like this still has authority and is robbing people of their senses on a massive scale.
Dionette It can absolutely be infuriating. Stay strong and remember you're not the only one who's frustrated by it. But we're slowly changing the course of the conversation.
Holy Koolaid; I appreciate the response, and the videos of course. I'm certainly aware that I'm not the only frustrated one, there're a lot more militant atheists than me out there.
Dionette -- same story here. I learned my lesson the hard way by asking sensitive questions in my youth. Since then I've kept quiet to avoid the storm from extended family members or others, until I know their position. It's not the best way to live, but it keeps the peace. I'm learning now about Street Epistemology, a great technique of socratic questioning that helps the target understand things without anyone getting riled up. And I conscientiously choose not to get riled up. If I do, then I forgive myself and try harder the next time. The more we learn about the brain and human psychology, the more we understand how and why people are the way we are, and the more tools we have to connect with them, help them, and maybe make them apply skeptical reasoning in their lives. With many, especially those in your family, it's the long game.
daniel letterman; The irony is that I was already off on vacation when this happened. Plus I'm not exactly independent and can't drive yet, so options are limited right now.
Beckrinn P.; On my dad's side, it's the case of one of those large Christian families, and it's almost the same on my mom's side (luckily my parents decided to stop at two). As far as I know, I'm the only Atheist in my entire, extended family and I don't think half of them are even aware that I am. Unfortunately, getting riled up isn't something I can choose. It's just circumstantial reaction, and listening to religious nuts tend to result in a sudden heatwave, some shaking, and anger-shock. Introversion and social anxiety do not favor me in face-to-face and I applaud those of you who have that kind of patience. Understanding how and why is only half the battle, my friend.
Your production values have always been very good, but this is really well done! Bravo! Great catch phrase! "'People deserve respect; ideas don't." Excellent work!
@@harrisontaylor3751 This is from over 5 years ago, for me, please phrase you question accordingly, because I don't want to have to watch the video again just to realize you're questioning something else entirely! Cause that happens! So, who did what, now?! And, also, do make clear how it relates to what I wrote. Thanks!
I don’t respect stupid beliefs. I respect people, and I can respect the historical value of the Bible. It is a piece of history that has an interesting background, but the more you look into its background, the more you realize that there’s nothing divine about it.
alic seprin I completely agree. I respect that right. But that does not require me to respect absurd beliefs that such people hold. Nor does it mean I have to put up with their judgments on my character or morality for being an unbeliever. I don't turn the other cheek but I don't hit first either. Someone hits me I'm going to hit him back. Literally or metaphorically depending on the situation.
@godisalie Dr. Bart Erhman has such a view. He wrote 'When Jesus Became God' the notion that Jesus' deity was created much later, second century and beyond. And then you should read, "When God Became Jesus,' by Dr. Craig Evans, editor, contributor, the notion that Jesus was worshiped as the God of Israel very early on. They expose much of the false methodology of Dr. Erhman. Among the leading experts of 'early Christology' is Dr. Richard Bauckham. The vast majority of classical scholars are in the "Jesus is God' camp. 'Fabricating Jesus - How Modern Scholars Distort the Gospels' also a fine paper. Basically there is the pseudo scholarship of things like the Da Vinci Code. While it has been roundly refuted for re hashing old tales (known to scholars for decades) the general public accepts it as fact. Some examples from DVC: they mention the Priory of Sion. Yet the POS was exposed as a hoax of Pierre Plantard by the French government. Knights Templar, Jesus marrying Mary, etc. all falsified. Even the 'scholars' in the book refer to the art master as 'Da Vinci' when a historian would know this is incorrect.
@alic seprin Unfortunately...they do cause harm, by teaching their own children the same dogma that they had to endure when they where young....perpetuating false ideas..
Clint Holmes There's a difference between respect and reverence. I try to respect all until they give me reason not to, but reverence is a lot harder won.
Holy Koolaid regarding, "There's a difference between respect and reverence." Meh. I looked up reverence in the online dictionary. It gave me, "deep respect for someone or something." If they use the word respect to define the word reverence that distinction isn't really worth making. I think the concepts we are using are essentially the same but the semantics we are using are different.
Please make a video about people who identify as christians but actually have a deistic worldview. This is a common occurance in my home country (Germany) and I'd like to know if the same is true for the USA. This is an important problem that needs to be adressed, since these people involentarily support a belief system that they do not agree with.
Franz Kissel I live in a Christian family, I am atheist, but my family accepts my choice. It's an entire change in lifestyle. It's not so simple for everyone to switch right over as it was for me.
According to Wikipedia about 65% of people in Britain are Christian or Islamic, and yet at the same time only about 35% of people believe in a god or gods. Assuming all of those 35% are Christian or Islamic, that still leaves a very large number of people who follow their religion without believing in the god of that religion. This raises the obvious question of whether these people are really skeptical, or whether they believe all the other magical claims of their religions and the god is just a step too far. Somewhere there ought to be an atheist sect of Christianity. One doesn't need to believe in a god in order to believe that Jesus had magic powers or that belief in Jesus can save souls. The whole religion makes so much more sense if Jesus was just a mortal wizard who performed his magic in the place where he lived during his lifetime. We wouldn't need to explain why Jesus isn't still performing miracles and spreading his message to the rest of the world. Jesus may have had enough magic to revive himself for a little while after death, but he was still a human with a biological body, and like all humans he eventually had to properly die. If he doesn't seem to answer prayers, it's because _he's dead._ So easy. Atheistic Jesus is far more plausible than regular Christianity. If there isn't an atheist sect of Christianity then someone ought to start one.
That's been my experience. Contrary to what might be seen in media outside of the US, the strength of evangelical/fundamentalist Christianity in America varies a lot from region to region. Many of the Christians I know have a vague theology around "Golden Rule" stuff (love, forgiveness, redemption, etc.). Some are basically deists who believe in a "First Cause" god. Others incorporate New-Agey ideas like guardian angels. They tend not to go to church (except on holidays), but some still pray. The church is more of a social institution where they gain a sense of community and find comfort in familiar rituals.
dajolaw finally someone who understood what I meant with my comment. Thank you. You wrote it much better than I did. They often don't even think about it.
Remember, as the late, great Mitch Hedberg informed us: It's not that the photographers are bad, but that Bigfoot is blurry! Stunning revelation indeed. Another amazing contribution, boss! I always enjoy your work.
You don't have to 'mock' it. You just need to point out the illogicality of it. And we should be allowed to do that for any idea whether some group of people think that idea holy or not.
This is probably my favorite video of yours. I grew up without religion. My parents didn't teach me to be an Atheist. They just didn't teach me to be a theist, either. They never gave me a religious identity and whenever they did speak about religion, it was never done so in a way that made me feel like I was a part of it. My first real exposure to religion is when I found a children's bible at my grandparents'. I read the whole thing and it never once occurred to me that anyone was taking all that literally. I was 7 years old...When it finally did occur to me that people were taking this stuff as literal truth, I couldn't get over how anyone could believe Noah's Arc was a real story. It just did not compute. I was 7!!! Since then, I've always had a baffled chuckle at how anyone can believe all that stuff. But I never thought of helping people discover the truth as bringing them in on the joke. I like it! haha
I believed it was real until I was 19 that's the crazy part. When every adult that you depend on and trust for your own survival is telling you it's the truth and telling you to steer clear of anyone who says otherwise, combined with the threat that if you don't believe it's true you will be tortured for all eternity. . .it just is the truth and it has to be. It takes a long time to untangle those beliefs no matter how ridiculous they seem. Basically, you get gaslit by everyone you know for your entire childhood when your brain is just absorbing information and doesn't have the capacity to seriously question everything and think critically yet.
@jahcode6132 I'm sorry that happened to you, but im thrilled you're now free to join us in learning about how the world really works and to be your own person. I think the saddest thing about religion is the fact that most believers kind of seem like pre-manufactured personalities. It makes them strive to be what everyone else around them wants them to be. I was raised to be fiercely independent and my parents encouraged me to think for myself. I didn't realize how rare that was until well into adulthood. Anyway, you're probably a lot smarter than I am. I have no idea if I would have the intelligence and the independent spirit to find my own way out of religious indoctrination.
It's so simple: Respect THAT people have a believe, as much as you want them to respect that you have NONE. As long as people don't want to impose their religious believes on me i wont bother them either. But if they try anything, ill oppose them and crush their believes and supersticions with reason. ... and make light of their believe.
The problem with logic is that it _can_ destroy those things... but what does that even matter when the people you are trying to convince aren't logical in the first place?
Clint Holmes illogical? Like the science you believe in. Don't get me wrong science is a great way to describe how something work but it is funny to me when I see people learning simple science/how some thing work or believe how something work they race to be little others.
I can't tell whether your disclaimer was an afterthought or purposely included to show the evil of extreme fanaticism! Either way it was brilliant! You've managed to make your point while keeping your head and shoulders intact:)
Funny thing, virgin birth does not necessarily violate our knowledge about biology. It happens in nature with other sexually diomorphic species, and there is a miniscule chance of it happening even with a humans. It might actually happen every one million year or so, but the offspring produced in such a case would be genetically identical to the mother. A virgin birth is possible, but it equals to winning the lottery, twice. A virgin birth producing a male child (Technically, men with double XX chromosomes do exist.) is like winning the lottery, every day, for the rest of your life, and i don`t mean you dying tomorrow after the win.
Today maybe. 2000+ years ago? Not so much. Contemporary critics of early christians claimed Mary has slept with a Roman legionary. While that was likely just made up, since there is no historical evidence of Jesus ever actually living in the first place and slandering your political/religious opposition is hardly something new, it might as well have been the truth. What is more likely, a miracle, a one in a billion chance outlier in biology happening, or just a woman lying to save herself from being stoned for adultery?
Well, you've done it again. Another wonderful video. I kept hearing Christopher hitchens in my head talking about mocking religion. What was it he said? Rediculous beliefs deserve to be rediculed? Spot on as usual Sir.
"People deserve respect." That depends. I always approach someone I don't know with the expectation that they are respectable, but in the end, respect is earned.
Very well said. It’s really important that you find that persuasive balance between fair and compassionate communication, and also not backing down from expressing truth.
Nessie isn't even remotely possible, especially if it's supposed to be a pleisiosaur. The loch is only about 10,000 years old (max). It's a glacial lake, the ice went after the end of the last ice age. The ice left glacial marks along the whole of the bottom of the loch, so there wasn't any water. I do wish people would do some actual research before allowing themselves to believe in it.
@@brycetharp4057 Exactly. But what p's me off about "Nessie" is the amount of money spent on looking for it - including by scientists! Ok, very few scientists, but still... That money could be given to health or education charities. I'm sure it adds up to millions and that makes me mad.
Kim & William It can be pretty bad. I was raised Christian and now that I'm on the outside I'm still baffled (even as someone who used to be one of them).
As a Christian, I've always had a ton of trouble negotiating Atheistic America. American is not all that Christian. Everywhere I go I see the term "Godless America".
My husband mocks other religions (like islam) but he says christianity (the religion he grew up with ans still believes in) deserves respect. When he said that I looked at him like "are you serious?". He's a smart and good man in all the other aspects of every day life but it's really sad to me that he was so brainwashed by his very religious mother that he still can't let go of the idea of god.
Don’t think his faith is stupid. I am a scholar and did not believe for 40 years until I was shown evidence for the historical truth of scripture. If you want, I can link a few articles that will help.
Believing the universe came from nothing is perfectly logical IF you have a lot of faith in something that has no evidence for it. The Bible is perfectly in line with science. Reasons.org and no, the Bible never said the earth is only 6000 years old. When people think the Bible is unscientific they are either repeating something they heard that is not in the Bible, or talking about miracles, which by definition are supernatural. If you only believe in the physical world and no one has a soul, then it is normal not to believe in anything supernatural. But if you realize the physical cannot explain how we have the ability to reason, ponder "why", plan far ahead into the future, that the mind is different than the brain, then you realize something outside of the physical world exists.
I was almost divorced with my wife because of my selfishness. Believing what Jesus said about serving each other starting with my wife, has made my marriage of 20 years better than I can imagine. I went 40 years without believing; the evidence for the truth of scripture is actually overwhelming in all areas of science. If curious watch “Is Genesis History” on Netflix or “Evolutions Achilles Heel”. They are both excellent.
Rick -- The phrases " I am a scholar" and "the evidence for the truth of scripture is actually overwhelming in all areas of science" are incongruous with each other. Also, a scholar would know that much of what Jesus was claimed to have said was said by others before him. dmthomas -- sorry, but only theists claim that the universe came from nothing. You know this because you've been told many, many times. Yet, you continue to repeat it. So, there is no reason to believe anything else you have to say.
Man, I stopped the vid @ 2:00 (right before the Sam Harris clip) to make this comment. This is the 1st of your vids I've clicked on and i gotta say I was so impressed with the way you communicated your message in just those 2 short minutes. Bravo!… Ok… going back to watch the rest of the vid :-)
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The Sound And The Fury is talked about in every University in the United States; in literature classes. I would have no problem with all the world's bibles being taught in literature classes. But to base your life on any of them would be to freeze a brief moment in time, and try to stretch it out into perpetuity. So yes, we should mock religion every chance we get; as it tries to make something out of nothing; quite ironic I'd say, how about you?
Catfish Cave Yet creationists blame scientists for claiming that something was created from nothing. Their books literally claim the same, so hypocritical....
Simple Weirdo I know. I agree. It's the creationists who are saying that the Big bang theory means matter coming to existence out of nothing. They don't understand. I'm totally on board with you here.
Thymii the problem with the creationists argument is also that we can observe matter spontaniously coming into existence all the time. We observe electron-positron pairs popping in and out of existence in the vacuum each and every second. So even something coming from nothing is more believable than the creation myth...
Midnight I guess in my first original comment I misspoke a bit. When I said that "their books claim the same" I didn't mean that the science claims so too. I was trying to say that the bible claims what the creationists blame scientists for. I should have been more focused on my writing. Thanks to those who corrected my unsuccessful attempt at making an argument against creation.
A good start is to call people out when they refer to "The" bible. I've found very few christians know there are over a dozen very different versions, or that scripture was voted on to decide what was in or not. Yeah the Word is political, a bunch of horse trading.
No Breda we have more than 5000 documents written in the original Hebrew and Greek that agree to an infinitesimal degree. To claim there are various translations is true but to claim without evidence that they are vastly different is I hope a misunderstanding and not just a lie! The Bible is not one book but a collection of 66 different texts written in every literary genre. But tell my how do u argue to atheism from a Scripture u neither understand nor believe a word of?
Hi Gerry. Thanks for your reply. I appreciate you climbing out of your myopic bubble of belief. Now let me make some corrections to your amusing claims. And I apologize for the word wall, but there is a lot to lay out. First, most of those supposed 5,000 documents are fragments. You engage in sophistry to imply otherwise. Given that much of it is copies, you would expect a general agreement. Second, my atheism is simply a result of insufficient evidence being provided. I'm open to the existence of god(s). That said, I have studied the bible in a semester long class. But unlike you, who blindly reads it as literature in a spiritual orgasm, I was taught to read comparatively and critically. So who really understands this? Now let's look at your "66' books fairy tail. Remember my OP was about this notion of "the bible" bot a collection of books floating around. Please don't distract and divert. Actually, there are many different biblical canon, supposed authoritative divine, revealed word of god. Scripture. Never mind that the books - Canon- were compiled by one man, Cyril. Never mind that his work was voted on in the highly political process of an Ecumenical council, which many bishops were not invited to (363 CE Synod of Laodicea) But they apparently missed the mark since Revelation was added by Athenasius to establish the bible or the Roman church (367 CE). That got the ball rolling. Just in the old testament you have separate traditions for the Protestant, Lutheran, Anglican, Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Slavonic Orthodox, Georgian Orthodox, Armenian Apostolic, Syriac Orthodox, Coptic Orthodox, Orthodox Tewahedo, and the Assyrian Church of the East. They divvy up some 115 books in different ways. But wait! That's not all! We have the new testament to shuffle in. Here you have some old and some new traditions. For instance: Protestant, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Armenian Apostolic, Coptic Orthodox, Orthodox Tewahedo, and Syriac Christians. They mix and match some 40+ books, or they pluck out and add sections into various ones, which we won't count as distinct versions. I suggest that you get your hands on these bibles and count the books in each. So much for Canon and the idea of “the bible.” Add into this the Mormons and Christian Scientists just for grins. And let's top it all off with 50 odd different translations, some of which are translations of translations If you think this doesn't matter, recall the slaughter of the Cathars. Then say a prayer for all those who died in the 30 year war, the 199 year war, the Inquisition. Folk get rather worked up about this nonsense.
To even get to 5000 you have to go all the way to the end of handwritten manuscripts... in the 1600s! Only a couple of hundred (and those are mostly fragments) are old enough to even count as "somewhat original". The rest is mostly younger than the canonization of the bible's books (so "catholic" tradition)
Hi Brenda, I seemed to recall reading that among the "fragments" u rightly identify, there are complete copies of nearly every book of the OT. I bow to your vastly superior biblical scholarship, but the Jews claim to have a complete copy of the Book of Isaiah dated about 200BC?. From which, I'm told there are about 100 prophesies that were fulfilled in the New testament. Perhaps u could point me in the right direction where you obtained this wealth of historical information. Were all these ancient books and parts there of written in Hebrew or ancient Aramaic? I'd also love to hear if u have the time what evidence you addressed to conclude "atheism is simply a result of insufficient evidence being provided."
The religious are also highly more likely to be an conspiracy theorist as well. So this explanation may fall on deaf ears, if they even give this video a chance to watch it in the first place.
General Ivan my entire family is super religious, and super conspiracy theorists. So, yeah, they would never even give this video a chance. I'm glad I was able to break free of such things
A little late to the video but I had to get this off my chest. I was raised Christian my whole life even in school and in college. But near the end of my college days I began to go through a change, I started to ask questions. Questions like "if the earth is only 6,000 years old why is everything on earth aged more than that? Wouldn't God have created an earth where everything started young?" And "how could a flood have wiped out all life on earth? The survivors on the ark would have never have been able to spread to the whole earth." And several other questions but you get the idea. Strangely enough the answer to all of these questions from the church was the same. God works in mysterious ways, he only tells us what we need to know and we will learn the answers in heaven. Then my parents convinced me to go to their last Easter service and I had got cut off by 10 different cars as I tried to leave the parking lot. That was the last straw. I just wish that people could have an actual debate about religion that isn't a mudslinging contest.
Thomas, you couldn't have written this any better IMHO. This is pretty much how I feel on this matter. Between you and Seth Andrews I've heard a lot of sense in the past few months.
A thoughtful discussion that raises serious questions about the invasion of religion into our lives. I recommend that you speak more slowly so that a wider audience can follow the content.
Sure, ideas deserve enough respect to seriously consider them. And enough respect to give them critical thought. And enough respect to evaluate the harm-vs-good value they carry, thus taking seriously the ones which cause substantial harm to those who carry them or others. And sometimes ridicule isn't the best approach, nor is it the only, to get someone to question their beliefs, but it's sadly often the only thing that will get through a wall of misinformation and anti-outsider thinking. The sunk cost fallacy can go a long way in reasoning. Sometimes just laughing at the ludicrous ideas a young Earth creationists holds can cause them to at least consider accepting well- known information and if nothing else, updating their beliefs to cut out the most ridiculous pseudoscientific parts. Moving their religion to more of a moral principle authority position in their lives and less of a literal story. This can fail to cut out some harmful views in many cases, but it opens the door. I love your work man, and I love how respectful you are even on subjects like this. It'll get through to lots of people. Guaranteed.
Creationism / Intelligent Design = Some sort of "Humpty-Dumpty: character in the clouds making a universe by magic; pre-school fairy tales of the ignorant and deluded.
Holy Koolade, Ha, I beat some your more famous YT followers! Because they are all on live chats right now. I loved the truck and the scenery looks like where I live. Great video. Love and Peace
Holy Koolaid Shannon Q was, with Sye ten Bruggenate(?) and a lot are split between her and either Non Sequitur or Jeff Holiday. I just saw names I knew. This community is wonderfully close, without a lot of drama that seems to plague the social/political/entertainment channels. I imagine that would be hard to avoid, given the content. I don't keep up with them, a lot started as athiest channels and went to sjw/antisjw. Love and Peace
Laura Jarrell Oh crap. I wanted to see Shannon's debate. Although anything w Sye is painfully hard to watch. You can only facepalm so much before your head comes clean off.
"Jonah, was probably rescued by a Dolphin cetacean NOT a Whale," So the bible is a load of bollocks, then. Got it. So, apart from a ridiculously ignorant fairy tale that gets nothing demonstably right, what is there that proves there is a creator?
Jesus himself was against religion, in the bible itself there’s multiple recounts of Jesus not only denying religion but actually advocating against it and outright criticizing it. He despised human doctrine. Christianity in essence was nothing more than to just follow Christ and his teachings about being a good person even to your enemies, nothing more and nothing less. Then the Catholic Church came along and suddenly those teachings were no longer divine lessons but a method of control and to get wealth from the people .... ultimately it became a business and all the essence and teachings of Jesus were forgotten, overwritten and misrepresented.
@Brian Wilson I rather think that *Mr Equity* meant that the _biblical _*_Jesus_* was, according to the _bible,_ against the organized religions of the time. It is wrong of you to conflate the _Christian_ religions with those that preceded it. You will doubtless assume that only a _Christian_ could write this. I simply do not assume that a religious person must believe in what others ascribe to him.
Doubt and Hope are the parents of Faith. Doubt alone will ground you in reality, but keep you from questioning reality. The great scientists questioned reality. Have faith that all isn’t what it seems.
There are sharks that can have "virgin births", but does that mean I believe humans can too? Nope, I need to still see factual data, but that's just me. Good content! 👏
rahowhero X yeah, but their definition of "virgin" was something completely different. They still believed in all that "women's hymen" hype back then, and didn't have artificial insemination. We're talking about being able to impreginated oneself without outside forces here, too. (Or, at least, non-human outside forces)
Someone believes there is a big hairy ape that walks on two legs in the forest -> crazy and mentally insane Someone believes there is a man in the sky who only does good things even tho our lives are horrible -> yeah that checks out
My biggest objection to this video is how you lump all conspiracy theories together as if they are all the same. The notion that there are no conspiracies is just as absurd as thinking everything is a conspiracy. 1:56
How do you define "grand conspiracy" even thou you don't make such a distinction in the video? Here's my point... I follow politics and am a Bernie Sanders supporter. During the 2016 primary campaign it was quite clear to me early on that the "democratic" party was tipping the scales for Hillary Clinton. When I would point this out and address this people would just mindless dismiss what I was saying by calling me a conspiracy theorist as if that was the same as making a logical argument. And that was effective, in part, because of the mindset you portrayed in the video that conspiracies are innately absurd and to be dismissed as if they don't exist at all. Then wikileaks dumped some documents proving that this particular conspiracy was actually going on and that party was actively working to tip the scales for a particular candidate. I would also point out how the corporate media's coverage was completely biased. Again, same thing. I would just be dismissed as a crazy conspiracy theorist as if that was a logical argument to combat the fact that they would cover Trump's empty podium while Sanders would be speaking in front of record crowds. Then later on Ed Shultz talked about how his bosses at MSNBC told him not to cover a sitting senator announcing his running for president (in favor of a completely unimportant topic) essentially proving this "crazy conspiracy theory." The point I'm making is that some conspiracies actually exist and it would really help if everyone wasn't trained to just dismiss the notion out of hand like this video portrays. And if that doesn't do it for you and you want to stick to the topic of religion then what about the "conspiracy theory" of catholic priest rape and the church covering it up? Which is exactly how the topic was portrayed until concrete irrefutable evidence was produced proving it. That was a pretty grand conspiracy wouldn't you agree?
+Clint Holmes Well said. Agreed. For starters, sightings of alleged high-tech aliens & their crafts, or sightings of possible Bigfoots, are NOT observations of a "conspiracy". It's just a sighting best explained by the alien or Bigfoot hypothesis. Where's the "conspiracy"? Now, of course, unfortunately, many of those who HAVE reported these encounters THEN pontificate about how "government is hiding the truth, CIA is..., illuminait" blah blah. All THAT unprovable or disproved nonsense IS conspiracy theory that has been proved wrong. This subtle difference IS important.
+Clint Holmes Preferring a mainstream, long established candidate with clout and a very public face over a basically noname coming out of nowhere and only enjoying a certain popularity with a fringe part of the main party is a conspiracy now? I would say this is what parties have done for the last two hundred YEARS. If Bernie ever had become Mainstream enough to look like he MIGHT win, the majority of the party leadership would have switched allegiances and supported him, especially after a primary win. The sad truth is: it never was even close. He lost HANDSOMELY with quite a big margin, they did not even need the dreaded "superdelegates" or other manipulative techniques of which trying to use they were eagerly accepted. So yes, declaring Bernie's loss to be the consequence of active manipulations instead of just openly playing favorites when talking about what candidate they preferred IS a conspiracy theory as it is not based in reality. It's the same shit as the alleged FBI conspiracy to depose Trump based on emails between two not too bright agents involved in the early on investigation into his campaign and shady dealings. Or the other Email thing called "Pizzagate".
Feno regarding, "over a basically noname coming out of nowhere" You are talking about a guy who has served in the Senate, one of the highest political offices in the country, for a long time. Regarding, "a conspiracy now?" The conspiracy was them actively tipping the scales in their own primary from day one. The conspiracy was them breaking their own rules to say they would be impartial. And it starts at the top. Debbie Wasserman Shultz, the chair of the party was forced to step down for fucks sake, and only because wikileaks exposed the inside corruption in the party. Regarding, "I would say this is what parties have done for the last two hundred YEARS." You say this like that makes what they did right. It doesn't. This is they same type of bullshit argument people use to justify slavery and every other long standing injustice through all of history. Something going on for a long time is irrelevant to whether or not it is ok. Regarding, "If Bernie ever had become Mainstream enough" Which was quite a bit harder when the corporate media would go out of their way to cover Trumps empty podium while he would be speaking in front of record crowds. Which is quite a bit harder when the corporate media would put up superdelegate numbers (even though this was frowned up by the "democratic" party, wink, wink) with pledged delegates to make it appear that Hillary was crushing him when she wasn't. Which was quite a bit harder when voter roles were being purged in strongholds of his like Brooklyn. Which was quite a bit harder when "democratic" conventions in Nevada were anything but fair. Which was quite a bit harder when the the entire "democratic" establishment was doing anything and everything to stop him. Oh and he had become "mainstream enough" as demonstrated by all polling evidence. Sanders was getting 10 points more then Hillary in head to head matchups with Trump. Regarding, "The sad truth is: it never was even close." This is what totally missing the point looks like in addition to completely misrepresenting reality. Let's say it "wasn't even close" even thou it was. That is only fucking relevant if we had free and fair elections where the party wasn't tipping the scales. If we had free and fair elections you would have an amazing point. We don't thou therefor it is irrelevant. Oh and it was close. If it wasn't close then party wouldn't have gone out of their way to have the election called on a DAY NOBODY VOTED. And why did they do that? Because they wanted to actively fuck with voting in the largest state in the union. Regarding, "they did not even need the dreaded "superdelegates"" Try not to lie to yourself like you are me... they did use them. They served their purpose exactly how they were intended. They were used to frame the entire election. Before a single peasant voted about 500 superdelegates came out to pledge their support for Hillary Clinton. The message was clear... she was inevitable. The election is over before it began so you may as well just fall in line because it's over already. And the corporate media was all too kind in framing the election. Like I said they would put up all delegate numbers together so that, even when they were essentially tied at the start, it would look like Hillary was fucking crushing him. And then, like I already said, they used superdelegates to call an election on a day ZERO people voted (because that is totally the time elections should be won or lost) to fuck with the election results in the largest state in the union. Why would people want to go out and vote after the primary is over? The "democratic" party is corrupt but they are not stupid. Superdelegates are not their to overthrow election results. Doing so would ensure a general election defeat. They are there to frame the election and influence voters and that's what they did. I have to question why I'm even addressing this. At this point there isn't anything that can be said to the sheep who still think the primary was free and fair that is going to wake them. Even concrete evidence such as the wikileaks dumps and DWS (Hillary Clinton's campaign cochair in 2008) getting ousted just goes in one ear and out the other. Nevermind that it was never fair. She won. That's totally like pizzagate. I'm so tired of feeling like I'm living in the movie Idiocracy.
As a Bush appointed Federal Judge said in the 'Dover education system vs. Creationist Institute, "Evolutionary science IS science, Creationism is a 'Religious Faith' and not science" where the creationists lost in a big way.
_Intellectual honesty is rare on the Internet._ I’m Christian, and I 200% agree. Every corner of the vast Internet rabidly despises God, for literally no reason at all!
HALLELUYAH!!!!!!! JESUS HAS RETURNED TO SAVE US!!!! 2018 !!! My girlfriend just had a son . . .and she is a virgin! I swear i never touched her, and she swears she never been with another man before. JESUS IS BACK!!!
I don't understand why everybody keeps talking down at and laughing at me? why do you all choose to believe only Mary from 2000 years ago but today, y'all telling me i need to go see a doctor, laughing at me, asking me what i've been smoking, my neighbour even tried to take me to the psychiatric ward!!!
Oh shit, i forgot, the only such test that existed in that time was to stick a stick in her vagina and see whether or not it bleed. If it does, "hey it's a miracle, but she is not pure anymore. STONE HER TO DETH!!!" If it doesn't "She was not pure. STONE HER TO DETH!!! Pointless test if both results will end with her being killed.
I think Joseph was literally the most-under-appreciated man in history ever. They baby wasn't his and he knew and he stuck around for baby Jee. Unless mama Jee dropped some mad pussy whip on him after he found out.
It always amuses/frustrates me that religion is given a pass when similar beliefs not cloaked in religion can happily be mocked or dismissed. This is relgious exceptionalism and why things such as the Flying Spagetti Monster or the Church of the Subgenius are so on point- an ironic relgion has as much value as any other- but, by being funny, probably has more value!
I've thought about this a lot and here is my conclusion: 1) People are afraid to question and doubt because they are afraid of going to hell. 2) People who have invested 30 years of their life subscribing to a belief system will not abandon that belief because they cannot deal with the fact they have squandered their life on a lie.
you’re correct, and i think we can add that they cannot abandon their position because it’s like a drug they’ve taken since childhood. they are ruined for life. they’ll only get over it when they die.
If a chemist were taking notes studying a chemical reaction and wrote "God", "Aliens", "Flying Spaghetti Monster", "Teapot", or other related entities not relevant to the chemical reaction being studied, and they simply stopped taking notes... If a theoretical physicist were at a marker board and wrote "I hate God of the Gap arguments" and simply stopped writing... If a teacher asked her students to brainstorm ideas, Toby says "Religion", the teacher writes it on the board, and another student says "Amen", Susy says "UFOs", the teacher writes it on the board, and another student says "I was abducted by aliens"...
Hey, I've only just discovered your channel. I was raised by a Catholic Dad and an atheist Mum, but was fortunate to have not had either rammed down my throat, being encouraged to listen to the evidence and to make my own mind up. Over the years I've slipped in and out of 'belief' but recently I've settled into atheism, and feel much more comfortable. Listening to Ricky Gervais (of all people!) started me feeling more comfortable with it, and finding channels like yours on UA-cam have really been of assistance. Thank you. I've happily subscribed and look forward to exploring more of your videos!
What are your thoughts? Should we mock religion, or do ideas deserve respect?
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All woo needs to be exposed, humor is often the best way to do it!
_"No idea should be above ridicule. Ridicule is a very important tool and I think ridicule points to people, gets them to think about what they're doing. And why should religion not be subject to ridicule, if politics is subject to ridicule, science, sex, if everything else in the world is subject to ridicule as a way of illuminating reality."_ - Dr. Lawrence Krauss, physicist.
Absolutely no beliefs deserve intrinsic respect. We need to ridicule those who take unsubstantiated claims seriously AND tries to push those as facts, especially when they indoctrinate children into those unsubstantiated claims.
^ Agree with all of the above. Though the comparison to Area 51 is a strange choice. We really don't know what the government does and doesn't have hidden away somewhere. I'm not saying there are aliens at Area 51 but I am saying that we don't know that and it is possible, so it isn't the same as religion.
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A bear summoning bald wizard? I think you just planned my next Skyrim character
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Logic beats Speculation the Jarl of Whiterun better keep his kids away from me
Logic beats Speculation he should eat their spleen. Mmm, spleen...
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Also I had to click off your video for Logicked's new Kent Hovind video
Like the late, and great, Christopher Hitchens said, "That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. "
Nope. Christopher hitchens was an imperialist monster.
@@TheMilitantMazdakitenope. He was based asf
All thoughts must be based on axioms, which by definition MUST be unprovable because they MUST be Uncontingent.
hitchens' philosophical claim not only is refuted by all thinking but also his own premise.
hitchens insists that only empiricial thought is valid.
I am religious, but I do believe that you are right about being critical of religion. I was once in a service where a woman came up and asked a priest a critical question. (One that could not be answered by quoting one obscure verse) and this old lady next to her told her that “we don’t ask those kinds of questions.” That kind of behavior is what causes any belief to gain to much power and control. I really liked your video, and look forward to new ones.
As Martin Luther said "reason is the devils harlot" basically meaning rationality defeats religion so it must be the work of the devil
i don't understand how you can still be religious after admitting it's the right thing to be critical of it... once you simply walk the walk and scrutinize it without a bias, you'll realize there's *nothing* to it.
but: don't take my word for it, just test your faith by *reading the bible* (or qu'ran or any other holy book your religion follows) front to back.
if it was perfect and meant to be both timeless AND in book form, logically, every sincere translation must remain to be perfect or the original wasn't, either. so you can choose any version there is.
If you're really intellectually honest with yourself, you will end up being an atheist soon.
But, if you decide to cherry pick stuff from the Bible and be intellectually dishonest with yourself, there's no hope for you.
What about Christians who dont care about Luther ? Trough history Catholics respected reason and often applied logic.
Look, I'm an Atheist, but you need to understand one thing here. If they want to believe in a god, that's fine. The problem comes when they deny science. Neither you or I know what kind of religious person Ninja is, so we cannot criticize him until we know the position. For all we know, he could just believe that a god caused the big bang, and we have 0 evidence against that. (I don't believe that and I'm aware that there is no evidence for that belief either) but it doesn't change the fact that you can accept religion whilst being scientifically literate.
Loved how all throughout this video Alex O'Connor was killing it on the guitar! ;)
Rationality Rules Lmao. That was supposed to be Elvis.
Haha : )
@@HolyKoolaid You are simply choosing to deny our lord Alex O'Connor's rightful place in your animation. Brother @Rationality Rules is too kind in his retribution of your misgivings. All hail @CosmicSkeptic, Lord of the Shred!🤘
@@FakingANerve Fine, but if I never hear another twanger, it will be too soon.
I just wanna know why my ex-wife is sitting on the cab
If an adult still believed in Santa you think they were insane but religion is no different to me and it genuinely worries me that so many people buy into it 100%, so much for human intelligence.
indeed
a young child talking to their imaginary friend = cute
a single adult person talking to their imaginary friend = mental illness
a large group all having the same imaginary friend = religion
santa claus: knows who is naughty, knows who is nice.
god: knows who is naughty, knows who is nice.
santa claus: seemingly never ending carols
god: really never ending carols
"so much for human intelligence"
you haven't explained how it's bad other than you not wanting it to be true
Agreed, Jesus is Santa for adults
I give it the same respect i give people who believe in the easter bunny or believes in a flat earth, ill give my fellow man the respect they deserve but in not going to promote or endorse cognitive dissonance in any way, and if thats considered disrespectful to the idea then i suppose not
The thing that always annoys me is that religious proffesionals (vicars, priests, imams, bishops etc.) always expect to be treated with reverence. I'm an athiest but I am expected to treat these guys with respect.
They basically spend their lives talking about their imaginary friend (and get paid for it). Does that deserve respect? If someone wants to pay me for talking about the tooth fairy I'll take your money, but I would expect to be ridiculed.
+Scylla 2112
" They basically spend their lives talking about their imaginary friend (and get paid for it)."
Sounds like E-Sports ;-)
Only E Sports is not a multi billion dollar thing enjoying tax exemptions and manyfold societal protections... and has not even remotely as much respect ascribed as the LARP for that other imaginary bullshit...
It is a tough one. Many mean it well. They are educated people who also happen to know about stuff and can give people really good advice. And I think that many rituals are good to have (funerals, weddings...). I do not think they are that different from palm readers and astrologists, some might give good advice as well, but it is all rubbish and when it comes to good advice you might get slightly better chances with psychologist.
What bothers me about religion are all the exceptions being made (tax exemptions are only the beginning of it). They should be treated the same as any other group with the same interest (like chess clubs). They can follow the same rules for non-profit or for-profit organizations. And they do not deserve to be treated better just because they believe in crazy stuff in larger numbers.
There's no reason to respect their stupid opinions. They are making uneducated guesses, peddling false hopes and promulgating a sick morality. You never see one break sweat. They have to keep their little hands soft to fondle your kid..
@@Ugly_German_Truths how is it even remotely like eSports? I'm pretty involved in the industry, and I'm curious.
Also, it's not a multi billion dollar thing just yet, but it is a million dollar thing already
No you should not treat them with the reverence they ask for Jesus said the greatest one around you is to be your minister and serve you,Jesus showed that by washing his disciples feet ,which was the job of the servant of the house.
"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." -Thomas Jefferson
"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship. Try to be more like him instead of just quoting him...
Looked it up. Real quote
You muppet
@@SharonBalloch -- when your personal beliefs cause you to support political systems designed to enforce your "personal" beliefs upon others, then you will be met with resistance.
@Smokey 420 -- so basically you are a triggered snowflake. Got it. Atheists only seem to have contempt for people who lack the mental capacity to understand the false religion they follow. It's just like hate the sin, not the sinner BS you like to do. For you, atheists that claim to be loving and aren't should be expected. What doesn't seem to bother you are all the christians that claim to be loving and show every single day that they really aren't.
If creationists don't want to be laughed at, they should stop spouting BS as if it were truth.
The irony is off the fucking charts, lmfaooo
I was honestly shocked when, as I ventured into the English-speaking internet, I discovered that there were actually real people in USA that are convinced evolution is not a thing and god literally created the world a few thousand years ago. I'm till not sure I believe those people are any more numerous than flat earthers, but still, that was fun to learn lol.
While I agree with what you've said so far, the Virgin birth isn't completely illogical. There are a few cases of weird ways women got pregnant
Edit: I meant to put this in the general chat, not specially replying to anyone
When I was in my second year of university I took a course on Earth Sciences(geology). My textbook was The History of Life written by A. Lee McAlester of Yale University. It was put out by Prentice-Hall in 1968. On pages 12-13 he states Because unmistakable traces of primitive plants are found in rocks more than 2 billion years old, it is strange that fossil evidence for animal life begins abruptly only 600 million years ago. And it is still more puzzling that the first abundant animal fossils are not primitive forms, but advanced invertebrates such as trilobites and brachiopods. Their presence in Early Cambrian time suggests that animals, like primitive plants, had a long Precambrian history, but so far, intensive search has yielded only a few Precambrian animals. Before returning to possible causes for the sudden appearance of advanced animal life... My geology professor said that the theory of evolution rests upon 6 sets of skulls. These facts support the creationist viewpoint.
@@roberteaston6413 this is completely untrue. A good place to start, if your interested of the evidence for evolution. Is The Greatest Show on Earth, The Evidence for Evolution, it’s a great book for anyone interested in learning about the facts of evolution. It’s also available on you tube as an audio book.
I always tell people, I respect the fact that people can believe whatever they want, but that doesn't mean I have to respect their ridiculous beliefs themselves. Religious people can be good, kind-hearted people who I can love and respect as a person, but their ideas about reality are still beyond nonsensical and deserve harsh criticism.
Chi_squared Exactly!
That is what Mr Koolaid said, respect the people but not the religion.
Chi_squared so basically "I respect you as a person, but I do not respect your beliefs"
Chi_squared Well said.
zeldajerk the regular every day religious personality is very good in most caes. Mostly because they don't follow all the rules and don't push their beliefs on others. My in-laws were devout SDA but never said anything ( your life is yours) and i never pushed my views either. They did start questioning their faith at the end, but stuck with it to the end. Then the church stole alot of the inheritance. Great deal.
If you don't speak out against poor thinking skills, we validate their nonsense.
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If they believe in religion, then it is bad. They may have been geniuses in other areas, but the fact that this one thing gone through their nonsense filter, then it is bad.
any irrational belief lends itself to other irrational beliefs, i mean look at how many flat earthers use religion as their justification!
alic seprin
"What gives you the right to declare their thinking skills are bad"
Reality.
Everyone has the right to their own belief and is responsible for what they do with it, or not. If you don't believe in their beliefs then you owe it to yourself not to take notice but as I said, it is their personal responsibility not yours.
colin Paterson. Bad ideas spread if ignored. Either they are right or they are just woo looking for a new way to take adavange of some peoples lack of education or their desperation and must be dragged out and forced to live in the light of reality
People tell me to respect their religion all the time, but I tell them it's disrespectful to tell me I'll been for eternity just because I don't agree with stories that have no truth.
Oh I love that. You should respect a religion that tells me I'm evil and will born forever because I dont believe it.. fuck your religion
Joseph Carrethers And you can prove they have no truth????
@@thomastompkins7698 geology disproves the flood.
Joseph Carrethers Read Evidence that demands a verdic
That book is awful, nobody should read it.
I don’t mock religion, I provide arguments against it.
To a religious person, they see no difference
Why even try all they ever do Is quote a book like it means something.
Exactly Jojo find arguments against it well said but honestly I still mock atheism
The JoJo Referencer
Like.. is this a joke?
Religion is there to be mocked.
In fact, religion deserves to be mocked.
Not just scientists (referring to experimental science) but also historians, archeologists, paleontologists, anthropologists, litterateurs, astronomers and an overwhelming majority of teachers and doctors mock creationists as well.
Every group you mentioned except teachers are scientists.
EDIT: And doctors.
Shouldnt have used the brackets
What are you?
A Mathematician?
: P
Two of my doctors are creationists.
I would try and get other doctors.
If someone believes that life can just appear by magic, you might not want to risk putting your health in their hands
Only theists believe that a magic wizard took a rock and magicked it into a man, well dust, or mud, or clay, or whatever it is that your personal creation myth says.
Abiogenesis was a gradual slope of certain chemicals interacting in completely natural ways, leading to self-replication causing natural selection which drove an increase of complexity over billions of years and the natural evolution which eventually brought about humans, all completely reasonable with tons of evidence to support it.
While we have replicated many steps of abiogenesis and have decent working theories of how it happened and understand the naturalistic explanations behind it. No magic of any kind has any corroborating evidence.
I refuse to "respect beliefs." If someone wants their beliefs respected they need to step up and produce evidence for their beliefs.
Not to be a dick but for the most part I mostly see aethiest doing it just to troll. Look I'm catholic I will never deny I'm catholic but I'm not gonna force it on you or anyone else I'd love it if you find god in some way but till then you do an I'll say a prayer for you.
Tyler Heidenreich
Then it's clear you have no idea what respect is/constitutes. 😑
Tyler Heidenreich The beliefs aren't all there is to a person. Religion only makes up one part of them. So even if you hate that part of a person do not hate the entire person itself. That's what respect is about. Seeing value in someone on the most basic level. Seeing them as a human being.
We're all human.
redsnake188 What would we be trolling for? We seriously just have no good reason to believe in your stuff. We're not claiming you're wrong, we could all be wrong.
Do you honestly think that we don't want to "find god"? That we just like to sin so much? We are truly not capable of having faith, of believing in something with no base evidence to support that belief. I have nothing against you as a person, but I just don't see the world the same as yours.
Thymii if you believe you are sinning then you probably are.
If there is one thing that frustrates me to no end is when i'm told (not asked, TOLD) to leave the bible alone and stop annoying people about how crazy, far fetched and dangerous it is.
And yet they won't leave you alone on a Saturday morning and show up at your door asking if you've heard about their Lord and Savior. Of course we've heard of him! It's 2018, and they're everywhere. Who freaking hasn't?!
Holy Koolaid to be honest i don't get bugged much by preachers or beLIEvers, unless i start the argument myself. Jeovah's guys come by only every other month, and the local priest is chill, very moderate, more on charity than on sheer belief.
The issue is the general attitude of the people. I live in a town of 1200 people where the average age is over 50. That's practically the Standard Good Christian Town where everyone knows everyone, we're all friends, all cool, saluting as you pass along the street, ask to send regards to the family and all that. But you try to say you are an atheist, some of them look at you as if you had a swastika on your face.
I travel quite a bit and in every hotel room I write in every bible the word ficTion on the inside cover. It makes me feel good.
not aTheist i find quite amusing moving the copy of the bible of our local library to the "fantasy and sci fi" section.
Somehow, the librarian fails to notice it until it's pointed out to her ;)
@Enjoy and Travel The World! Actually... Nurses are _very_ well educated, at least where I live.
But that makes it even more ridiculous that the wife would believe something that flies in the face of virtually every branch of science there is.
It really is insanity.
I was indoctrinated into all that silly stuff as a kid and believed it hold heartedly for years. Now all my family and friends still believe and look down on me because I don't. 😥
Death is the reason people are so hard to sway away from the insanity that is religion people don't want to die and religion gives them "everlasting life" Instead of facing the harsh reality that after death we may cease to exist. It's my believe that that's why religion was created for in the first place.
Harsh reality that after death we cease to exist? Really? Please tell us how you know that, Jay. Let God be true and every man a liar. It is appointed unto man once to die but after this the judgment" (Hebrews 9:27).
+Ray Winsor All of neurology and biology points to us only existing within our brain and when our brain dies nothing EVER departs from it that could possibly store your consciousness and memories and that as i said is completely supported by everything we know about how the real world works while claims of afterlives only exist within mythologies written by people who knew nothing about how the world works.
Might as well kill ourselves now then, especially since most of us are on hate lists. Life's not worth all this pain and suffering, especially if I'm as nothing to the universe as I am to other people.
@@AJROtheWriter That's more or less the more serious equivalent of a kid holding their breath for being told not to expect getting a gift for every single day they've been a good boy/girl.
I find the idea of being forced to worship a horrible god for all of eternity much worse than just being gone after I die.
I just find it dumb that people use a book that was written thousands of years ago for moral guidance in today’s society.
one that promotes slavery, subordinates females, demands hatred and sanctimony towards lgbt individuals, provides judgment towards eating certain functionally edible things and wearing different fabrics, et al. at that! absolutely tribal and absurdly outdated.
I call it "The Bronze Age Goat Herder's Guide To The Galaxy"! Peace and Love
Hate the belief. Love the believer.
NO, use the golden rule and treat the believer the way he would treat you. Burn him for eternity.
Not if he's a complete fuckwit and an asshole
Sounds no different from a homophobic Christian saying love the sinner hate the sin
NEMO fishZ that’s the joke
"Religion is a conspiracy theory with a double-dose of poppycock."
Perfect.
Once more Venerable Fulton Sheen:
"Conscience, Christ, and the gift of faith make ev1l men uneasy in their sin. They feel that if they could drive Christ from the earth, they would be free from "moral inhibitions." They forget that it is their own nature and conscience which makes them feel that way. Being unable to drive God from the heavens, they would drive his ambassadors from the earth. In a lesser sphere, that is why many men sneer at virtue--because it makes vice uncomfortable."
Virtue makes vice uncomfortable.
@@CurrentResident-dh1qt You're an idiot.
Love your videos. Keep them coming!
I remember once, when I was a church goer, that a pastor said that there are websites that criticize the church and that we should not go looking for them nor should we read what they tell. He legit poisoned the well for me that lasted years. I strayed away from sites such as he told us about and from ideas that conflicted the mystical fables I was raised to believe. I was taught that doubt was a kin to sin, but thanks to creators such as yourself I now see more openly. Thank you.
Only a fragile position would require cognitive isolation to protect it. Glad to see you got the courage to ask the hard questions and explore for yourself. :)
Jasser Torres I think that is counter productive. If something is true, then it should be able to stand up against conflicting arguments. The fact is when you look deeper and you really see where the Bible came from, everything falls apart. I myself used to be a Christian up until about 10 years ago when I did a serious search on the Internet of the origins of the Bible. It took me about six months to fully transition into an atheist after my first Internet search. Those six months were harsh on my being and I fell into depression because everything I knew was wrong. But after that, I now feel like a new person. I no longer have to feel guilty for being a human, I can do things that were considered evil according to my old beliefs. And since this is the only life I know I will get I appreciate it so much more, I appreciate the extremely small chance of my existence because I didn’t have to be here. But I’m a part of the universe and I’m so happy.
alic seprin they say that it's good to see other churches and that they're sure that they "are the one" but don't want you looking for the arguments against them
+Jasser Torres
" I was taught that doubt was a kin to sin,"
Nah, nothing even remotely alike... for one thing doubt exists. Sin is just a convenient excuse for the observation that despite god obviously being all pwoerful and benevolent and shit, the world is still gong down the crapper one turd at a time... so how to explain that? ohhh. i know! This undetectable, unmeasurable, unquantifiable force that is basically identical to human nature if you let nature run its course (lying, stealing, cheating...) so that the victims of the indoctrinated mindset will feel guilty about being themselves and seek "forgiveness" through even more rules and payments to make to the church in lieu of "the offended party"...
Scientologists do that too. They know that once you realize that it's all bullshit, they lose power over you and your money. Its the same with Christianity.
Awesome video, Holy Koolaid.
I can't tell if this is an advertisement, spam bot, or the ravings of a lunatic.
Speaking as someone who's created two other humans I now intend demanding they write a book about my greatness, build a church and worship me once a week.
Once a week? More like every minute of every day!
Brill 😄
@@viddork
He's not a full time deity.
Lmao
Seriously you should have more subscribers. I mean I had a debate with my brother about this yesterday and was asked to respect his belief as a christian.
What did you tell him? I typically go with: "I respect people, not ideas."
Holy Koolaid I just told him religion brings more harm than good and told him that religion has been the biggest business for ages and its like a cartel selling people comfort drugs but next time if this happens I would take your approach and break it to him softly. Thanks for your contribution to society, sir. Even though its minor it brings a change to all 46000 of you suscribers.
Aniket Minz biggest issue with religion is getting emotionally invested in an answer that your willing to do anything to conform reality to what you believe instead of the other way around.
My best friend is a later day saint and I know he’s smart enough to realize there is issues with his religion that doesn’t fit with reality.
Maybe I’m salty about religion since it has been the source of inhibiting the advancement of society for the longest time. Only in the last 100-200 years we have achieved so much with critical thinking which religion doesn’t allow.
Aniket Minz. My wife is not really religious , but she was raised SDA and just can't get past her training. No discussion allowed.
gota say i agree, how can someone with such smooth animation have under 500k?
Not really a new atheist (almost 10 years now), but I'd still register in your mailing list in the hopes I might learn new things that I missed all this time.
Heres a phone number u may have missed, 9308323
*12 reasons that prove atheism is a self-defeating, irrational worldview*
According to philosophers like Jean Paul Sartre and Fred Nietzsche atheism is indeed a worldview created by self confessed, semi-literate apes who desperately want God not to exist for the freedom to self indulge their own hedonistic, trivial and totally unsatisfying pursuits. *It is an unwavering commitment to the philosophy of scientific materialism.* In layman's terms it merely asserts that mindless matter is the only game in town. A stupid claim since the physical realm is defined by a remarkable set of immaterial universal laws and abstract mathematics.
The proof for God's existence is hidden in plain sight for the same reasons a thief cant find a policeman - No atheist wants to discuss ultimate origins particularly matter and energy (cosmic or chemical evolution) Unless they want to embrace the logical absurdity of an infinite regress of past physical events or states, the FINITUDE of the past demands Creation ex nihilo. If there is no atemporal non contingent, all powerful, immaterial reality there would be nothing, no molecules, no matter, no man, nothing but non existence. So how does the typically high profile denier get around explaining *why there is something rather than nothing.* Apparently quite easily:
1) atheism is merely a non belief and makes no claims ((Baker)
2) we dont know yet but science will one day tell us (how everything came from absolutely nothing - naturally of course!)
3) "a law such as gravity created (itself and then) the universe out of nothing" (Hawking)
4 evolution u fool, is about life changing, not about the actual origin of the 1st complex molecule or living cell. (or was it nothing to helium to humans?)
5) aliens likely seeded earth but that lifeform must have arisen by natural selection elsewhere in the universe (Dawkins)
6) "Evolution by natural selection is merely a theory that no matter how counter intuitive, we are forced to embrace it, because of our a priori adherence to material causes” we get u "cant let a divine foot in the door." Ric Lewontin
7)"Biologists must constantly keep in mind that what they see was not designed, but rather evolved". (Crick) “Even if all the evidence points to an intelligent designer, it must be excluded from science b/c it is not naturalistic” (Todd)
8) “Biology is the study of complicated things that have the APPEARANCE of design for a purpose” "for we are the power and the glory for ever and ever."
9)“The core of the humanistic philosophy is naturalism”. So mindless mater is the only game in town, then?
10) “It is not the methods of science that compels us to accept a material explanation, it is our a priori adherence to material causes….
11) *“no evidence would be sufficient to create a change in mind, *it is not a commitment to the evidence but to naturalism”.
12) ) Do “some people believe whatever they want not on the basis of evidence but what they find attractive” (Blasé Pascal) Was Darwin spot-on in suggesting that we shouldn’t expect a mind evolved from lower animals to be at all trustworthy? Ergo, on whose authority can a materialist then claim that anything that comes out of his brain chemistry is authoritative?
And that leads to the most revealing admission by a prominent biologist and staunch atheist *“Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against COMMON SENSE is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism"* Now guess what staunch atheist conceded that honest appraisal of Darwinian Evolution?
"Seeking to be wise they become like fools. They exchange the truth of God for a lie."
gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8.
I gotta be honest, when it comes to religious ideas, I'm not usually laughing at them because my blood is usually boiling due to these delusionals that try to force them on us. My eldest aunt on my dad's side is very religious and one night I tried to tell her that I don't go to church anymore and to stop forcing me to. She comes at me with "We did not raise you this way", "You're hurting your father", "You need to thank God for giving you a roof over your head and a loving father", "God is not invisible". Introverted as I am, and angry as I was, I was mostly just speechless, but inside my mind was a raging storm, the most intense claps of thunder being "You have just given me zero reason to take anything you say seriously. You are F***ING DELUSIONAL!!!". I tell this little event to show that we're not just justified for mockery, we're justified for being furious, because religious BS like this still has authority and is robbing people of their senses on a massive scale.
Dionette It can absolutely be infuriating. Stay strong and remember you're not the only one who's frustrated by it. But we're slowly changing the course of the conversation.
Holy Koolaid; I appreciate the response, and the videos of course. I'm certainly aware that I'm not the only frustrated one, there're a lot more militant atheists than me out there.
Dionette -- same story here. I learned my lesson the hard way by asking sensitive questions in my youth. Since then I've kept quiet to avoid the storm from extended family members or others, until I know their position. It's not the best way to live, but it keeps the peace.
I'm learning now about Street Epistemology, a great technique of socratic questioning that helps the target understand things without anyone getting riled up.
And I conscientiously choose not to get riled up. If I do, then I forgive myself and try harder the next time. The more we learn about the brain and human psychology, the more we understand how and why people are the way we are, and the more tools we have to connect with them, help them, and maybe make them apply skeptical reasoning in their lives.
With many, especially those in your family, it's the long game.
daniel letterman; The irony is that I was already off on vacation when this happened. Plus I'm not exactly independent and can't drive yet, so options are limited right now.
Beckrinn P.; On my dad's side, it's the case of one of those large Christian families, and it's almost the same on my mom's side (luckily my parents decided to stop at two). As far as I know, I'm the only Atheist in my entire, extended family and I don't think half of them are even aware that I am.
Unfortunately, getting riled up isn't something I can choose. It's just circumstantial reaction, and listening to religious nuts tend to result in a sudden heatwave, some shaking, and anger-shock. Introversion and social anxiety do not favor me in face-to-face and I applaud those of you who have that kind of patience. Understanding how and why is only half the battle, my friend.
Your production values have always been very good, but this is really well done! Bravo!
Great catch phrase!
"'People deserve respect; ideas don't."
Excellent work!
Did he actually give any evidence or only claims?
@@harrisontaylor3751 This is from over 5 years ago, for me, please phrase you question accordingly, because I don't want to have to watch the video again just to realize you're questioning something else entirely! Cause that happens!
So, who did what, now?!
And, also, do make clear how it relates to what I wrote. Thanks!
I don’t respect stupid beliefs. I respect people, and I can respect the historical value of the Bible. It is a piece of history that has an interesting background, but the more you look into its background, the more you realize that there’s nothing divine about it.
alic seprin Exactly what I said
alic seprin I completely agree. I respect that right. But that does not require me to respect absurd beliefs that such people hold. Nor does it mean I have to put up with their judgments on my character or morality for being an unbeliever. I don't turn the other cheek but I don't hit first either. Someone hits me I'm going to hit him back. Literally or metaphorically depending on the situation.
@godisalie Dr. Bart Erhman has such a view. He wrote 'When Jesus Became God' the notion that Jesus' deity was created much later, second century and beyond. And then you should read, "When God Became Jesus,' by Dr. Craig Evans, editor, contributor, the notion that Jesus was worshiped as the God of Israel very early on. They expose much of the false methodology of Dr. Erhman. Among the leading experts of 'early Christology' is Dr. Richard Bauckham.
The vast majority of classical scholars are in the "Jesus is God' camp. 'Fabricating Jesus - How Modern Scholars Distort the Gospels' also a fine paper. Basically there is the pseudo scholarship of things like the Da Vinci Code. While it has been roundly refuted for re hashing old tales (known to scholars for decades) the general public accepts it as fact. Some examples from DVC: they mention the Priory of Sion. Yet the POS was exposed as a hoax of Pierre Plantard by the French government. Knights Templar, Jesus marrying Mary, etc. all falsified. Even the 'scholars' in the book refer to the art master as 'Da Vinci' when a historian would know this is incorrect.
@alic seprin Unfortunately...they do cause harm, by teaching their own children the same dogma that they had to endure when they where young....perpetuating false ideas..
@alic seprin True....but sad to watch this ' perpetual " cancer of the mind.
You are suppose to respect people... However, you don't have to respect ideas.
While I agree with the premise of what you are saying I personally adhere to the thought that respect is earned... not given.
Respect them untill they give you a good reason not to. And you will come out as being or looking as the better person.
To someone I don't know I try to give them courtesy and politeness but not respect. It is a very small distinction but that is my mindset.
Clint Holmes There's a difference between respect and reverence. I try to respect all until they give me reason not to, but reverence is a lot harder won.
Holy Koolaid regarding, "There's a difference between respect and reverence." Meh. I looked up reverence in the online dictionary. It gave me, "deep respect for someone or something." If they use the word respect to define the word reverence that distinction isn't really worth making.
I think the concepts we are using are essentially the same but the semantics we are using are different.
We should teach our children to respect people but not their absurd beliefs.
Please make a video about people who identify as christians but actually have a deistic worldview. This is a common occurance in my home country (Germany) and I'd like to know if the same is true for the USA. This is an important problem that needs to be adressed, since these people involentarily support a belief system that they do not agree with.
Franz Kissel That's a good topic idea. I typically don't see deism as as big of a threat, but it paves the way for other beliefs without evidence.
Franz Kissel I live in a Christian family, I am atheist, but my family accepts my choice. It's an entire change in lifestyle. It's not so simple for everyone to switch right over as it was for me.
According to Wikipedia about 65% of people in Britain are Christian or Islamic, and yet at the same time only about 35% of people believe in a god or gods. Assuming all of those 35% are Christian or Islamic, that still leaves a very large number of people who follow their religion without believing in the god of that religion. This raises the obvious question of whether these people are really skeptical, or whether they believe all the other magical claims of their religions and the god is just a step too far.
Somewhere there ought to be an atheist sect of Christianity. One doesn't need to believe in a god in order to believe that Jesus had magic powers or that belief in Jesus can save souls. The whole religion makes so much more sense if Jesus was just a mortal wizard who performed his magic in the place where he lived during his lifetime. We wouldn't need to explain why Jesus isn't still performing miracles and spreading his message to the rest of the world. Jesus may have had enough magic to revive himself for a little while after death, but he was still a human with a biological body, and like all humans he eventually had to properly die. If he doesn't seem to answer prayers, it's because _he's dead._ So easy.
Atheistic Jesus is far more plausible than regular Christianity. If there isn't an atheist sect of Christianity then someone ought to start one.
That's been my experience. Contrary to what might be seen in media outside of the US, the strength of evangelical/fundamentalist Christianity in America varies a lot from region to region. Many of the Christians I know have a vague theology around "Golden Rule" stuff (love, forgiveness, redemption, etc.). Some are basically deists who believe in a "First Cause" god. Others incorporate New-Agey ideas like guardian angels. They tend not to go to church (except on holidays), but some still pray. The church is more of a social institution where they gain a sense of community and find comfort in familiar rituals.
dajolaw finally someone who understood what I meant with my comment. Thank you. You wrote it much better than I did. They often don't even think about it.
Remember, as the late, great Mitch Hedberg informed us: It's not that the photographers are bad, but that Bigfoot is blurry! Stunning revelation indeed.
Another amazing contribution, boss! I always enjoy your work.
Free Sabot I should have shown a pic of Mitch Hedberg when I said "usually blurry" because that's definitely where I pulled the idea from.
You don't have to 'mock' it. You just need to point out the illogicality of it. And we should be allowed to do that for any idea whether some group of people think that idea holy or not.
This is probably my favorite video of yours. I grew up without religion. My parents didn't teach me to be an Atheist. They just didn't teach me to be a theist, either. They never gave me a religious identity and whenever they did speak about religion, it was never done so in a way that made me feel like I was a part of it. My first real exposure to religion is when I found a children's bible at my grandparents'. I read the whole thing and it never once occurred to me that anyone was taking all that literally. I was 7 years old...When it finally did occur to me that people were taking this stuff as literal truth, I couldn't get over how anyone could believe Noah's Arc was a real story. It just did not compute. I was 7!!! Since then, I've always had a baffled chuckle at how anyone can believe all that stuff. But I never thought of helping people discover the truth as bringing them in on the joke. I like it! haha
I believed it was real until I was 19 that's the crazy part. When every adult that you depend on and trust for your own survival is telling you it's the truth and telling you to steer clear of anyone who says otherwise, combined with the threat that if you don't believe it's true you will be tortured for all eternity. . .it just is the truth and it has to be. It takes a long time to untangle those beliefs no matter how ridiculous they seem. Basically, you get gaslit by everyone you know for your entire childhood when your brain is just absorbing information and doesn't have the capacity to seriously question everything and think critically yet.
@jahcode6132 I'm sorry that happened to you, but im thrilled you're now free to join us in learning about how the world really works and to be your own person. I think the saddest thing about religion is the fact that most believers kind of seem like pre-manufactured personalities. It makes them strive to be what everyone else around them wants them to be. I was raised to be fiercely independent and my parents encouraged me to think for myself. I didn't realize how rare that was until well into adulthood. Anyway, you're probably a lot smarter than I am. I have no idea if I would have the intelligence and the independent spirit to find my own way out of religious indoctrination.
It's so simple: Respect THAT people have a believe, as much as you want them to respect that you have NONE.
As long as people don't want to impose their religious believes on me i wont bother them either. But if they try anything, ill oppose them and crush their believes and supersticions with reason.
... and make light of their believe.
But they are always trying to inject belief into political debate
I would like a someone to explain why it took 40 days/nights to knock out 10 commandments and only 6 days to create the whole universe.
Facts and logic destroy theist nonsense every time
They really don't thou even if they should. Ultimately logic is ineffective against the illogical.
The problem with logic is that it _can_ destroy those things... but what does that even matter when the people you are trying to convince aren't logical in the first place?
"if religious people were reasonable, then they wouldn't be religious"
- Bill Maher (I think)
C a t a l y s t I am religious and so are many others I know who are reasonable. Sad to think people still try to make them self feel superior.
Clint Holmes illogical? Like the science you believe in. Don't get me wrong science is a great way to describe how something work but it is funny to me when I see people learning simple science/how some thing work or believe how something work they race to be little others.
I can't tell whether your disclaimer was an afterthought or purposely included to show the evil of extreme fanaticism! Either way it was brilliant! You've managed to make your point while keeping your head and shoulders intact:)
Funny thing, virgin birth does not necessarily violate our knowledge about biology. It happens in nature with other sexually diomorphic species, and there is a miniscule chance of it happening even with a humans. It might actually happen every one million year or so, but the offspring produced in such a case would be genetically identical to the mother. A virgin birth is possible, but it equals to winning the lottery, twice. A virgin birth producing a male child (Technically, men with double XX chromosomes do exist.) is like winning the lottery, every day, for the rest of your life, and i don`t mean you dying tomorrow after the win.
Z Zs there's always artificial insemination as well.
Today maybe. 2000+ years ago? Not so much.
Contemporary critics of early christians claimed Mary has slept with a Roman legionary. While that was likely just made up, since there is no historical evidence of Jesus ever actually living in the first place and slandering your political/religious opposition is hardly something new, it might as well have been the truth. What is more likely, a miracle, a one in a billion chance outlier in biology happening, or just a woman lying to save herself from being stoned for adultery?
Virgin births have been documented, but it ALWAYS a female child, can't get away from that pesky y chromosome.
Well, you've done it again. Another wonderful video. I kept hearing Christopher hitchens in my head talking about mocking religion. What was it he said? Rediculous beliefs deserve to be rediculed? Spot on as usual Sir.
Ron Esquerra Thanks. And that's a great way of putting it.
"People deserve respect." That depends. I always approach someone I don't know with the expectation that they are respectable, but in the end, respect is earned.
Very well said.
It’s really important that you find that persuasive balance between fair and compassionate communication, and also not backing down from expressing truth.
Nessie isn't even remotely possible, especially if it's supposed to be a pleisiosaur. The loch is only about 10,000 years old (max). It's a glacial lake, the ice went after the end of the last ice age. The ice left glacial marks along the whole of the bottom of the loch, so there wasn't any water. I do wish people would do some actual research before allowing themselves to believe in it.
I figure a fictitious monster could be whatever the f*** people want it to be. It could be a zebra/ Sparrow hybrid.... A Jedi or Klingon
@@UncommonSense-wm5fd Well, the monster is lol!
@@brycetharp4057 Exactly. But what p's me off about "Nessie" is the amount of money spent on looking for it - including by scientists! Ok, very few scientists, but still... That money could be given to health or education charities. I'm sure it adds up to millions and that makes me mad.
He's talking about whether Nessie violates the laws of physics not what the chance of dinosaurs still being alive today.
lmfao i read hetero
@@miafranco7821 need to accent it
Raised as an atheist, I've always had a ton of trouble negotiating Christian america.
Kim & William It can be pretty bad. I was raised Christian and now that I'm on the outside I'm still baffled (even as someone who used to be one of them).
As a Christian, I've always had a ton of trouble negotiating Atheistic America. American is not all that Christian. Everywhere I go I see the term "Godless America".
I come from a family of staunch catholics and christians and you literally just said everything I've been feeling my whole life...well done!
💜 *quality content* 💜
Thanks. This one didn't have as much animation, but I polished the script, and my next video is extremely visual-heavy to make up for it. :)
Holy Koolaid
Visuals or no visuals, I believe your message will reach and benefit many people. Keep up the good work!
~ Owl ☺
"Not Mohammed" LOL! Posted this on Agnostic.com!
Religion is the normalization of insanity... I love this quote!
I could just watch the first 7 seconds on loop. I can't place one single element of your intro as to why it's so satisfying, but I dig it.
My husband mocks other religions (like islam) but he says christianity (the religion he grew up with ans still believes in) deserves respect. When he said that I looked at him like "are you serious?". He's a smart and good man in all the other aspects of every day life but it's really sad to me that he was so brainwashed by his very religious mother that he still can't let go of the idea of god.
Norma I'm really sorry to hear that. It's amazing how the human mind is able to cordon off and protect certain beliefs and not others.
Don’t think his faith is stupid. I am a scholar and did not believe for 40 years until I was shown evidence for the historical truth of scripture. If you want, I can link a few articles that will help.
Believing the universe came from nothing is perfectly logical IF you have a lot of faith in something that has no evidence for it. The Bible is perfectly in line with science. Reasons.org and no, the Bible never said the earth is only 6000 years old. When people think the Bible is unscientific they are either repeating something they heard that is not in the Bible, or talking about miracles, which by definition are supernatural. If you only believe in the physical world and no one has a soul, then it is normal not to believe in anything supernatural. But if you realize the physical cannot explain how we have the ability to reason, ponder "why", plan far ahead into the future, that the mind is different than the brain, then you realize something outside of the physical world exists.
I was almost divorced with my wife because of my selfishness. Believing what Jesus said about serving each other starting with my wife, has made my marriage of 20 years better than I can imagine. I went 40 years without believing; the evidence for the truth of scripture is actually overwhelming in all areas of science. If curious watch “Is Genesis History” on Netflix or “Evolutions Achilles Heel”. They are both excellent.
Rick -- The phrases " I am a scholar" and "the evidence for the truth of scripture is actually overwhelming in all areas of science" are incongruous with each other. Also, a scholar would know that much of what Jesus was claimed to have said was said by others before him.
dmthomas -- sorry, but only theists claim that the universe came from nothing. You know this because you've been told many, many times. Yet, you continue to repeat it. So, there is no reason to believe anything else you have to say.
I love your videos, keep on fighting!
Thanks!
No problem!
Man, I stopped the vid @ 2:00 (right before the Sam Harris clip) to make this comment. This is the 1st of your vids I've clicked on and i gotta say I was so impressed with the way you communicated your message in just those 2 short minutes. Bravo!… Ok… going back to watch the rest of the vid :-)
Yay! Thanks!
Robert44444444 this is a UA-camr you'll want to sub to. He makes fantastic content, he's really smart, he's objective, and he's not hateful. He really is a breath of fresh air!
Hi Carrie… yep I finished the vid, liked it, and have left additional comments, one of which I share that i have subscribed and will consider supporting via Patreon.
Great work! Keep it up
The Sound And The Fury is talked about in every University in the United States; in literature classes. I would have no problem with all the world's bibles being taught in literature classes. But to base your life on any of them would be to freeze a brief moment in time, and try to stretch it out into perpetuity. So yes, we should mock religion every chance we get; as it tries to make something out of nothing; quite ironic I'd say, how about you?
Catfish Cave Yet creationists blame scientists for claiming that something was created from nothing. Their books literally claim the same, so hypocritical....
Did you just quote the Ancient One from Dr Strange? xD
Simple Weirdo I know. I agree. It's the creationists who are saying that the Big bang theory means matter coming to existence out of nothing. They don't understand. I'm totally on board with you here.
Thymii the problem with the creationists argument is also that we can observe matter spontaniously coming into existence all the time.
We observe electron-positron pairs popping in and out of existence in the vacuum each and every second.
So even something coming from nothing is more believable than the creation myth...
Midnight I guess in my first original comment I misspoke a bit. When I said that "their books claim the same" I didn't mean that the science claims so too. I was trying to say that the bible claims what the creationists blame scientists for. I should have been more focused on my writing. Thanks to those who corrected my unsuccessful attempt at making an argument against creation.
A good start is to call people out when they refer to "The" bible. I've found very few christians know there are over a dozen very different versions, or that scripture was voted on to decide what was in or not. Yeah the Word is political, a bunch of horse trading.
Even funnier... both the book and the way to interprete it ... have evolved! **shocked gasp**
No Breda we have more than 5000 documents written in the original Hebrew and Greek that agree to an infinitesimal degree. To claim there are various translations is true but to claim without evidence that they are vastly different is I hope a misunderstanding and not just a lie! The Bible is not one book but a collection of 66 different texts written in every literary genre. But tell my how do u argue to atheism from a Scripture u neither understand nor believe a word of?
Hi Gerry. Thanks for your reply. I appreciate you climbing out of your myopic bubble of belief. Now let me make some corrections to your amusing claims. And I apologize for the word wall, but there is a lot to lay out. First, most of those supposed 5,000 documents are fragments. You engage in sophistry to imply otherwise. Given that much of it is copies, you would expect a general agreement. Second, my atheism is simply a result of insufficient evidence being provided. I'm open to the existence of god(s). That said, I have studied the bible in a semester long class. But unlike you, who blindly reads it as literature in a spiritual orgasm, I was taught to read comparatively and critically. So who really understands this? Now let's look at your "66' books fairy tail. Remember my OP was about this notion of "the bible" bot a collection of books floating around. Please don't distract and divert.
Actually, there are many different biblical canon, supposed authoritative divine, revealed word of god. Scripture. Never mind that the books - Canon- were compiled by one man, Cyril. Never mind that his work was voted on in the highly political process of an Ecumenical council, which many bishops were not invited to (363 CE Synod of Laodicea) But they apparently missed the mark since Revelation was added by Athenasius to establish the bible or the Roman church (367 CE). That got the ball rolling.
Just in the old testament you have separate traditions for the Protestant, Lutheran, Anglican, Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Slavonic Orthodox, Georgian Orthodox, Armenian Apostolic, Syriac Orthodox, Coptic Orthodox, Orthodox Tewahedo, and the Assyrian Church of the East. They divvy up some 115 books in different ways.
But wait! That's not all! We have the new testament to shuffle in. Here you have some old and some new traditions. For instance: Protestant, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Armenian Apostolic, Coptic Orthodox, Orthodox Tewahedo, and Syriac Christians. They mix and match some 40+ books, or they pluck out and add sections into various ones, which we won't count as distinct versions. I suggest that you get your hands on these bibles and count the books in each. So much for Canon and the idea of “the bible.”
Add into this the Mormons and Christian Scientists just for grins.
And let's top it all off with 50 odd different translations, some of which are translations of translations
If you think this doesn't matter, recall the slaughter of the Cathars. Then say a prayer for all those who died in the 30 year war, the 199 year war, the Inquisition. Folk get rather worked up about this nonsense.
To even get to 5000 you have to go all the way to the end of handwritten manuscripts... in the 1600s! Only a couple of hundred (and those are mostly fragments) are old enough to even count as "somewhat original". The rest is mostly younger than the canonization of the bible's books (so "catholic" tradition)
Hi Brenda, I seemed to recall reading that among the "fragments" u rightly identify, there are complete copies of nearly every book of the OT. I bow to your vastly superior biblical scholarship, but the Jews claim to have a complete copy of the Book of Isaiah dated about 200BC?. From which, I'm told there are about 100 prophesies that were fulfilled in the New testament.
Perhaps u could point me in the right direction where you obtained this wealth of historical information. Were all these ancient books and parts there of written in Hebrew or ancient Aramaic? I'd also love to hear if u have the time what evidence you addressed to conclude "atheism is simply a result of insufficient evidence being provided."
The religious are also highly more likely to be an conspiracy theorist as well. So this explanation may fall on deaf ears, if they even give this video a chance to watch it in the first place.
General Ivan my entire family is super religious, and super conspiracy theorists. So, yeah, they would never even give this video a chance. I'm glad I was able to break free of such things
A little late to the video but I had to get this off my chest. I was raised Christian my whole life even in school and in college. But near the end of my college days I began to go through a change, I started to ask questions. Questions like "if the earth is only 6,000 years old why is everything on earth aged more than that? Wouldn't God have created an earth where everything started young?" And "how could a flood have wiped out all life on earth? The survivors on the ark would have never have been able to spread to the whole earth." And several other questions but you get the idea. Strangely enough the answer to all of these questions from the church was the same. God works in mysterious ways, he only tells us what we need to know and we will learn the answers in heaven. Then my parents convinced me to go to their last Easter service and I had got cut off by 10 different cars as I tried to leave the parking lot. That was the last straw. I just wish that people could have an actual debate about religion that isn't a mudslinging contest.
No. I always tell my family: "You know that is mythology" "...is only for entertainment"
Thomas, you couldn't have written this any better IMHO.
This is pretty much how I feel on this matter.
Between you and Seth Andrews I've heard a lot of sense in the past few months.
A thoughtful discussion that raises serious questions about the invasion of religion into our lives.
I recommend that you speak more slowly so that a wider audience can follow the content.
BTIsaac
I don't trust anyone implicitly werther their atheist or not and I've never said otherwise.
BTIsaac
Furthermore, none of the atheists channels i'm SUBSCRIBED too have "Sold out" to Christianity nor any other religion.
Sure, ideas deserve enough respect to seriously consider them. And enough respect to give them critical thought. And enough respect to evaluate the harm-vs-good value they carry, thus taking seriously the ones which cause substantial harm to those who carry them or others. And sometimes ridicule isn't the best approach, nor is it the only, to get someone to question their beliefs, but it's sadly often the only thing that will get through a wall of misinformation and anti-outsider thinking. The sunk cost fallacy can go a long way in reasoning. Sometimes just laughing at the ludicrous ideas a young Earth creationists holds can cause them to at least consider accepting well- known information and if nothing else, updating their beliefs to cut out the most ridiculous pseudoscientific parts. Moving their religion to more of a moral principle authority position in their lives and less of a literal story. This can fail to cut out some harmful views in many cases, but it opens the door. I love your work man, and I love how respectful you are even on subjects like this. It'll get through to lots of people. Guaranteed.
Magic is science we do not yet understand, and science is magic we do understand.
Creationism / Intelligent Design = Some sort of "Humpty-Dumpty: character in the clouds making a universe by magic; pre-school fairy tales of the ignorant and deluded.
Thank you for all the hard work you put into these rational and well thought out videos. I show them to anyone I can find to watch.
Ken Welch Thanks. I appreciate you sharing my work.
I love this. Thanks!
Okay so this probably happens all the time but it never happens to me! Hearting up my comment has made my day thanks!
This video shows why you're one of my favorite UA-camrs. Plus you've got that dope closing music!
If the virgin birth were true, Y'shua would have been a woman. How could parthenogenesis produce a 'Y' chromosome? That's basic biology.
That guitar sounds a lot like a piano.
Lol.
Holy Koolade, Ha, I beat some your more famous YT followers! Because they are all on live chats right now. I loved the truck and the scenery looks like where I live. Great video. Love and Peace
Thanks. Glad you could make it early. Who all's in live chats right now?
Holy Koolaid Shannon Q was, with Sye ten Bruggenate(?) and a lot are split between her and either Non Sequitur or Jeff Holiday. I just saw names I knew. This community is wonderfully close, without a lot of drama that seems to plague the social/political/entertainment channels. I imagine that would be hard to avoid, given the content. I don't keep up with them, a lot started as athiest channels and went to sjw/antisjw. Love and Peace
Laura Jarrell Oh crap. I wanted to see Shannon's debate. Although anything w Sye is painfully hard to watch. You can only facepalm so much before your head comes clean off.
"That Process, can NEVER have arisen by BLIND LUCK !!!"
Yes it can. In an infinite time ANYTHING that CAN happen WILL happen.
"Jonah, was probably rescued by a Dolphin cetacean NOT a Whale,"
So the bible is a load of bollocks, then. Got it. So, apart from a ridiculously ignorant fairy tale that gets nothing demonstably right, what is there that proves there is a creator?
Faith is the end of reason.
Jesus himself was against religion, in the bible itself there’s multiple recounts of Jesus not only denying religion but actually advocating against it and outright criticizing it. He despised human doctrine. Christianity in essence was nothing more than to just follow Christ and his teachings about being a good person even to your enemies, nothing more and nothing less. Then the Catholic Church came along and suddenly those teachings were no longer divine lessons but a method of control and to get wealth from the people .... ultimately it became a business and all the essence and teachings of Jesus were forgotten, overwritten and misrepresented.
@Brian Wilson
I rather think that *Mr Equity* meant that the _biblical _*_Jesus_* was, according to the _bible,_ against the organized religions of the time. It is wrong of you to conflate the _Christian_ religions with those that preceded it.
You will doubtless assume that only a _Christian_ could write this. I simply do not assume that a religious person must believe in what others ascribe to him.
We don’t need to mock religion - religion does it extremely well on their own...!!!
Doubt and Hope are the parents of Faith. Doubt alone will ground you in reality, but keep you from questioning reality. The great scientists questioned reality. Have faith that all isn’t what it seems.
That's a wonderful perspective. Thank you.
There are sharks that can have "virgin births", but does that mean I believe humans can too? Nope, I need to still see factual data, but that's just me.
Good content! 👏
MrsG87 artificial insemination? Tis definitely possible for virgins to concieve babies.
rahowhero X yeah, but their definition of "virgin" was something completely different. They still believed in all that "women's hymen" hype back then, and didn't have artificial insemination. We're talking about being able to impreginated oneself without outside forces here, too. (Or, at least, non-human outside forces)
What you're referring to is parthenogenesis. Many species other than Sharks are capable of this, but it has not been documented in Mammals.
Freedom Anderson yup, that's what I was referring to. I know mammals haven't been documented to do this yet.
@@winstonchaychel wait, if he was born via parthenogenesis why is he a guy
Great video. I agree. If I could subscribe 1000 times, I would.
I feel for you in the USA we non believers don't have any problems in the UK or EU
It's the religious ones who are viewed oddly in the UK, thank goodness.
Yeah, being an atheist in the US is... an adventure. 😅
david coombes: There's an old saying......"The Yanks will buy anything" :-/
Someone believes there is a big hairy ape that walks on two legs in the forest -> crazy and mentally insane
Someone believes there is a man in the sky who only does good things even tho our lives are horrible -> yeah that checks out
Bass player has _the_ best audience.
That's supposed to be Elvis. :D
My biggest objection to this video is how you lump all conspiracy theories together as if they are all the same. The notion that there are no conspiracies is just as absurd as thinking everything is a conspiracy. 1:56
Clint Holmes People conspire, but grand conspiracies typically require too many illogical assumptions.
How do you define "grand conspiracy" even thou you don't make such a distinction in the video?
Here's my point... I follow politics and am a Bernie Sanders supporter. During the 2016 primary campaign it was quite clear to me early on that the "democratic" party was tipping the scales for Hillary Clinton. When I would point this out and address this people would just mindless dismiss what I was saying by calling me a conspiracy theorist as if that was the same as making a logical argument. And that was effective, in part, because of the mindset you portrayed in the video that conspiracies are innately absurd and to be dismissed as if they don't exist at all. Then wikileaks dumped some documents proving that this particular conspiracy was actually going on and that party was actively working to tip the scales for a particular candidate.
I would also point out how the corporate media's coverage was completely biased. Again, same thing. I would just be dismissed as a crazy conspiracy theorist as if that was a logical argument to combat the fact that they would cover Trump's empty podium while Sanders would be speaking in front of record crowds. Then later on Ed Shultz talked about how his bosses at MSNBC told him not to cover a sitting senator announcing his running for president (in favor of a completely unimportant topic) essentially proving this "crazy conspiracy theory."
The point I'm making is that some conspiracies actually exist and it would really help if everyone wasn't trained to just dismiss the notion out of hand like this video portrays.
And if that doesn't do it for you and you want to stick to the topic of religion then what about the "conspiracy theory" of catholic priest rape and the church covering it up? Which is exactly how the topic was portrayed until concrete irrefutable evidence was produced proving it. That was a pretty grand conspiracy wouldn't you agree?
+Clint Holmes Well said. Agreed. For starters, sightings of alleged high-tech aliens & their crafts, or sightings of possible Bigfoots, are NOT observations of a "conspiracy".
It's just a sighting best explained by the alien or Bigfoot hypothesis. Where's the "conspiracy"?
Now, of course, unfortunately, many of those who HAVE reported these encounters THEN pontificate about how "government is hiding the truth, CIA is..., illuminait" blah blah.
All THAT unprovable or disproved nonsense IS conspiracy theory that has been proved wrong.
This subtle difference IS important.
+Clint Holmes
Preferring a mainstream, long established candidate with clout and a very public face over a basically noname coming out of nowhere and only enjoying a certain popularity with a fringe part of the main party is a conspiracy now? I would say this is what parties have done for the last two hundred YEARS. If Bernie ever had become Mainstream enough to look like he MIGHT win, the majority of the party leadership would have switched allegiances and supported him, especially after a primary win.
The sad truth is: it never was even close. He lost HANDSOMELY with quite a big margin, they did not even need the dreaded "superdelegates" or other manipulative techniques of which trying to use they were eagerly accepted.
So yes, declaring Bernie's loss to be the consequence of active manipulations instead of just openly playing favorites when talking about what candidate they preferred IS a conspiracy theory as it is not based in reality. It's the same shit as the alleged FBI conspiracy to depose Trump based on emails between two not too bright agents involved in the early on investigation into his campaign and shady dealings. Or the other Email thing called "Pizzagate".
Feno regarding, "over a basically noname coming out of nowhere" You are talking about a guy who has served in the Senate, one of the highest political offices in the country, for a long time.
Regarding, "a conspiracy now?" The conspiracy was them actively tipping the scales in their own primary from day one. The conspiracy was them breaking their own rules to say they would be impartial. And it starts at the top. Debbie Wasserman Shultz, the chair of the party was forced to step down for fucks sake, and only because wikileaks exposed the inside corruption in the party.
Regarding, "I would say this is what parties have done for the last two hundred YEARS." You say this like that makes what they did right. It doesn't. This is they same type of bullshit argument people use to justify slavery and every other long standing injustice through all of history. Something going on for a long time is irrelevant to whether or not it is ok.
Regarding, "If Bernie ever had become Mainstream enough" Which was quite a bit harder when the corporate media would go out of their way to cover Trumps empty podium while he would be speaking in front of record crowds. Which is quite a bit harder when the corporate media would put up superdelegate numbers (even though this was frowned up by the "democratic" party, wink, wink) with pledged delegates to make it appear that Hillary was crushing him when she wasn't. Which was quite a bit harder when voter roles were being purged in strongholds of his like Brooklyn. Which was quite a bit harder when "democratic" conventions in Nevada were anything but fair. Which was quite a bit harder when the the entire "democratic" establishment was doing anything and everything to stop him.
Oh and he had become "mainstream enough" as demonstrated by all polling evidence. Sanders was getting 10 points more then Hillary in head to head matchups with Trump.
Regarding, "The sad truth is: it never was even close." This is what totally missing the point looks like in addition to completely misrepresenting reality. Let's say it "wasn't even close" even thou it was. That is only fucking relevant if we had free and fair elections where the party wasn't tipping the scales. If we had free and fair elections you would have an amazing point. We don't thou therefor it is irrelevant. Oh and it was close. If it wasn't close then party wouldn't have gone out of their way to have the election called on a DAY NOBODY VOTED. And why did they do that? Because they wanted to actively fuck with voting in the largest state in the union.
Regarding, "they did not even need the dreaded "superdelegates"" Try not to lie to yourself like you are me... they did use them. They served their purpose exactly how they were intended. They were used to frame the entire election. Before a single peasant voted about 500 superdelegates came out to pledge their support for Hillary Clinton. The message was clear... she was inevitable. The election is over before it began so you may as well just fall in line because it's over already. And the corporate media was all too kind in framing the election. Like I said they would put up all delegate numbers together so that, even when they were essentially tied at the start, it would look like Hillary was fucking crushing him.
And then, like I already said, they used superdelegates to call an election on a day ZERO people voted (because that is totally the time elections should be won or lost) to fuck with the election results in the largest state in the union. Why would people want to go out and vote after the primary is over?
The "democratic" party is corrupt but they are not stupid. Superdelegates are not their to overthrow election results. Doing so would ensure a general election defeat. They are there to frame the election and influence voters and that's what they did.
I have to question why I'm even addressing this. At this point there isn't anything that can be said to the sheep who still think the primary was free and fair that is going to wake them. Even concrete evidence such as the wikileaks dumps and DWS (Hillary Clinton's campaign cochair in 2008) getting ousted just goes in one ear and out the other. Nevermind that it was never fair. She won. That's totally like pizzagate.
I'm so tired of feeling like I'm living in the movie Idiocracy.
Religious stories make me laugh.
As a Bush appointed Federal Judge said in the 'Dover education system vs. Creationist Institute, "Evolutionary science IS science, Creationism is a 'Religious Faith' and not science" where the creationists lost in a big way.
Worship Gabe newell so he may bless us with a steam sale
All hail Gabe!!! What's this?! 75% off all games on Steam!!!! Either it worked, or it's summer. :O
I reject Gabe for Half life 3 never being delivered. He is a demi-god pretender.
This. So much this.
Ruck freligion
Tyler Bailey - Bight up it's Rum?
Holy Koolaid bight up. Your videos are great btw. Intellectual honesty is rare on the Internet.
Tyler Bailey I think you meant fuck religion. Grow a pair.
_Intellectual honesty is rare on the Internet._
I’m Christian, and I 200% agree. Every corner of the vast Internet rabidly despises God, for literally no reason at all!
@@Ms.JingleBerries every corner even the Christian corners
I think a more apt question would be _"Why do some people _*_not_*_ mock creationists? Why do they _*_not_*_ laugh at Christians and Muslims?"._
is it ok if i download the video and re upload it in spanish?? this need to be spreaded
Stop trying to force your religion on other people let them worship the true and living God with out this baseless lies going around.
#NotMohammed
I think its supposed to be a reference to Darkmatter2525
Someone Silence yes, I'm fairly sure it is. Hence why I recognized the joke and hashtagged it in this comment.
HALLELUYAH!!!!!!!
JESUS HAS RETURNED TO SAVE US!!!! 2018 !!!
My girlfriend just had a son
. . .and she is a virgin!
I swear i never touched her,
and she swears she never been with another man before.
JESUS IS BACK!!!
Lol, maybe you should re-evaluate your relationship, or at least get a fraternity test.
I don't understand why everybody keeps talking down at and laughing at me?
why do you all choose to believe only Mary from 2000 years ago but today, y'all telling me i need to go see a doctor, laughing at me, asking me what i've been smoking, my neighbour even tried to take me to the psychiatric ward!!!
Oh shit, i forgot, the only such test that existed in that time was to stick a stick in her vagina and see whether or not it bleed. If it does, "hey it's a miracle, but she is not pure anymore. STONE HER TO DETH!!!" If it doesn't "She was not pure. STONE HER TO DETH!!!
Pointless test if both results will end with her being killed.
I think Joseph was literally the most-under-appreciated man in history ever.
They baby wasn't his and he knew and he stuck around for baby Jee.
Unless mama Jee dropped some mad pussy whip on him after he found out.
@@apexwar_ lol
Respect is earned, not demanded.
Respect is shown when it is merited.
Nice tits! ; )
The anti vax debate sure would go different now
It always amuses/frustrates me that religion is given a pass when similar beliefs not cloaked in religion can happily be mocked or dismissed. This is relgious exceptionalism and why things such as the Flying Spagetti Monster or the Church of the Subgenius are so on point- an ironic relgion has as much value as any other- but, by being funny, probably has more value!
"Religion is the normalisation of insanity"... Spot on!
I've thought about this a lot and here is my conclusion: 1) People are afraid to question and doubt because they are afraid of going to hell. 2) People who have invested 30 years of their life subscribing to a belief system will not abandon that belief because they cannot deal with the fact they have squandered their life on a lie.
you’re correct, and i think we can add that they cannot abandon their position because it’s like a drug they’ve taken since childhood. they are ruined for life. they’ll only get over it when they die.
Thank you for posting. I really appreciate your videos.
If a chemist were taking notes studying a chemical reaction and wrote "God", "Aliens", "Flying Spaghetti Monster", "Teapot", or other related entities not relevant to the chemical reaction being studied, and they simply stopped taking notes...
If a theoretical physicist were at a marker board and wrote "I hate God of the Gap arguments" and simply stopped writing...
If a teacher asked her students to brainstorm ideas, Toby says "Religion", the teacher writes it on the board, and another student says "Amen", Susy says "UFOs", the teacher writes it on the board, and another student says "I was abducted by aliens"...
Hey, I've only just discovered your channel. I was raised by a Catholic Dad and an atheist Mum, but was fortunate to have not had either rammed down my throat, being encouraged to listen to the evidence and to make my own mind up. Over the years I've slipped in and out of 'belief' but recently I've settled into atheism, and feel much more comfortable. Listening to Ricky Gervais (of all people!) started me feeling more comfortable with it, and finding channels like yours on UA-cam have really been of assistance. Thank you. I've happily subscribed and look forward to exploring more of your videos!
we are dealing with a book that says that says day and night existed before THE SUN
JUST WATCHED AT LEAST 10 OF YOUR VIDEOS MATE WHICH I'VE FOUND REALLY INTERESTING. THANK YOU AND PLEASE KEEP IT UP.