Mossberg 88 vs 500 vs 590

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  • @deslewis5471
    @deslewis5471 9 років тому +1590

    They're all great shotguns. I moved to the US from New Zealand which is an anti gun country. I'm looking forward to collecting my own guns here.
    Keep up the great videos.

    • @chtomlin
      @chtomlin 9 років тому +105

      +Des Lewis Yes, a shame those folks have allowed themselves to be disarmed.

    • @wacko234456
      @wacko234456 9 років тому +42

      +Des Lewis nz isn't anti guns they just use better licencing system so no idiots get their hands on guns

    • @chtomlin
      @chtomlin 9 років тому +121

      wacko234456 I doubt that

    • @Mr.56Goldtop
      @Mr.56Goldtop 9 років тому +100

      Just be sure you relocate to a state that has favorable gun laws. Stay away from new york and new jersey for sure!!!

    • @diegomunhoz6508
      @diegomunhoz6508 8 років тому +14

      +wacko234456 Dude ..if your country was full of guns, the numbers would be pretty much the same( discount the suicides plz)

  • @DemolitionRanch
    @DemolitionRanch 10 років тому +1048

    Great video Eric. I LOVE the mossberg shotguns. My current go to gun is the 500. It's been through hell and it keeps on shooting.

  • @BillBraskyy
    @BillBraskyy 3 роки тому +105

    The Mossberg 500 is the shotgun we used in Iraq. When we had to leave our tanks and start running missions in humvees, that was one of the weapons in the gunner's turret, except ours had a pistol grip. I actually bought my dad a Mossberg Maverick 88 Security for his bday yesterday:)

    • @gregb6469
      @gregb6469 3 роки тому +16

      No doubt he liked that better than a new necktie, or underwear!.

  • @davec.3198
    @davec.3198 4 роки тому +193

    When i was 18 I bought my first long gun. Walked into a shop and bought (what they told me was a Maverick 88) for $187. Not knowing squat about shotguns, it wasn't till 10 years later i realized it was actually a 500. It was marked below on the receiver but i figured they all had the same 500 marking....nope. Nice score.

    • @ElijahRees
      @ElijahRees 8 місяців тому +5

      You got lucky hah

  • @DirkDeadeye
    @DirkDeadeye 7 років тому +1118

    If you have a mossberg, you made the right choice. Don't sweat the details.

    • @Jak-it
      @Jak-it 7 років тому +24

      DirkDeadeye I just got the maverek 88 security yesterday now I'm scared to break the trigger group should I be worried?

    • @Jak-it
      @Jak-it 7 років тому

      DirkDeadeye it's the same one he showed with the pistol grip

    • @ph3ddysland962
      @ph3ddysland962 7 років тому +20

      +watchchoutnwo yeah man I know what you mean just picked one up myself a couple of weeks ago the 20 inch model but I doubt we gonna have to worry about that any time soon. Was gonna get the 18inch 88 but I think the 8+1 model is more rounded and more rugged the 5+1 model too me is only for home defense (tactical purposes) but the 8+1 model can be used for hunting, home defense, shooting competition, and it holds 3 more shells more then the 18 inch version. The 20 inch version is just a more versatile choice in my opinion.

    • @Jak-it
      @Jak-it 7 років тому +7

      Jason Francois yeah. got the 18 inch model I didn't realize they had the 20 inch model I bought mine for home defence or bug out/combat purpose it really is a great gun if given the chance I might trade or sell my 18 inch for the 20 inch

    • @Jak-it
      @Jak-it 7 років тому +3

      Jason Francois does it matter which model if your using it for hunting since they have to be plugged?

  • @fragmentedmind549
    @fragmentedmind549 7 років тому +27

    "Notorious" is a strong statement for the trigger guard polymer breaking. there are 500's and 590's in US military service. I've used the 500, 590, and the similar 835 both in military and civilian use pretty extensively (835 excluded to civilian use) and have yet to hear or see a polymer trigger group breaking from the receiver. I've seen a polymer safety break on a 500 but that was only after loctite was used on a non factory screw.

  • @elmartillo7931
    @elmartillo7931 5 років тому +55

    I've had a Maverick 88 security for years. I used mossberg's in the military, and I chose the 88 because I wanted something that I could beat up in the bush without breaking the bank. And my 88 is just as reliable as my issue Mossberg was back in the day

  • @ComicalCowboy1911
    @ComicalCowboy1911 8 років тому +540

    I'll tell ya this much.......I'd trust a Maverick 88 with my life! Best $200 I've ever spent!

    • @doughesson
      @doughesson 8 років тому +38

      The first 500 I bought was $188.00 plus tax in 1989.

    • @glehman01
      @glehman01 7 років тому +4

      Not bad for an Excellent gun, bought mine maybe late 90's for 200.00 cash, but it was used some, got it from an old friend. Still in great shape, a little bluing is gone, but works fine, also picked up a 590A1 a few years ago, another good one !

    • @necessaryevilzero1885
      @necessaryevilzero1885 5 років тому +7

      @enigma032889 Mine is very comfortable to use. Change your ammunition. Find something that is comfortable to shoot and does the job you want it to do. Don't forget these pump guns will feed and fire any type of 2" 3/4 or 3" cartridges.

    • @texasviking1
      @texasviking1 5 років тому +7

      ComicalCowboy1911 I’ve had my 88 for years and it’s still a damn good gun. I absolutely trust it👍🏻

    • @wifebeater69
      @wifebeater69 5 років тому +4

      @enigma032889 beyond the ammo selection you can also get a recoil buttpad thing for like 10-15 bucks on amazon. it helps a lot

  • @zackdn97
    @zackdn97 8 років тому +90

    They're not notorious for busting and most current production 870 models have plastic trigger gaurds as well. Don't go buy an 870 just because of the trigger gaurd. Pick the one that has the the safety and slide release placement you prefer. Both are rugged and reliable.

    • @derrikhipp706
      @derrikhipp706 Рік тому +1

      I agree with this, I got the Mossberg 590 with the intent on putting a pistol grip on it and I’ve learned my lesson. I love my gun but I kind of wish I would’ve done more research before I just want ahead and bought it. For my preferences the Remington would’ve been a better choice. Keep in mind todays Remington‘s have quality control issues from what I understand.

  • @joeykrzywonski4900
    @joeykrzywonski4900 4 роки тому +22

    I've had my mariner 500 for 25 years, and it just keeps going. It's got a nice patina on on the marine coat finish. I've never had a problem with it. Definitely a good buy!

  • @buffalosoutdoors
    @buffalosoutdoors 10 років тому +70

    Good video Eric. One thing I would add is that the 590 can accept aftermarket magazine tube extensions, the 88 and the 500 cannot due to the way the magazine cap threads into the mag tube. To a lot of people that is a big selling point.

    • @DEATH_TO_TYRANTS
      @DEATH_TO_TYRANTS 6 років тому +10

      Buffalo's Outdoors
      thats a HUGE piece that he missed. thank you.

    • @shainshartershwate7421
      @shainshartershwate7421 2 роки тому +5

      Well if you get the 7+1 Mav 88 then there's no point in a mag extension

  • @sackett68
    @sackett68 8 років тому +179

    I've owned several 500s over the last 30 years or so and never seen or heard of the trigger assembly breaking. Not saying it doesn't happen but i don't think it's a common problem. I had a Mossberg 20 gauge that was made in the 60s and it was still going strong with no issues.

    • @clunkmess
      @clunkmess 8 років тому +6

      that's a tough ole bird!

    • @jeffscuderi8662
      @jeffscuderi8662 5 років тому

      Safeties break frequently steel aftermarket are available if you want

    • @jameslewis974
      @jameslewis974 4 роки тому +2

      Should have been a Mossberg n son's if it was that old

    • @blakedavis2447
      @blakedavis2447 4 роки тому +1

      Not that I’m disagreeing about never hearing about the trigger assembly breaking because I also have never heard that before but how is a gun made in the 60s relevant to guns made today ? Saying something made decades ago is a good product doesn’t tell me if it’s still just as good or not today , no hate just a mild rant

    • @sackett68
      @sackett68 4 роки тому +2

      @@blakedavis2447 You have a point. I agree. Ive owned several 500s and have one now I bought 2 years ago. Never had one break yet.

  • @edferd100
    @edferd100 4 роки тому +10

    I've had my 88 for 25 years with zero problems...ever. I love that thing.

    • @matts.4095
      @matts.4095 2 роки тому +1

      Wow, how many rounds have you shot through it?????

  • @mckwilly
    @mckwilly 4 роки тому +17

    got my Mav for $100 6yrs ago and it still runs great, one thing i learned and thought it was missing/broken at the time was the single action rod as the others had the dual action rod, but no problems cycling to ths day

  • @Quality_Guru
    @Quality_Guru 4 роки тому +41

    I wish that I could say well done, but I cannot. This is EXTREMELY well done! Thanks for putting in the time to elevate our knowledge of these very affordable shotguns.

  • @fitz8923
    @fitz8923 8 років тому +18

    Concise, to the point, and very practical. This is why I love your channel.
    -A Native American in California

  • @TheLateBoyScout
    @TheLateBoyScout 10 років тому +80

    Great comparison. Thanks for taking the time to make this.

    • @KrissStiletto13
      @KrissStiletto13 10 років тому +1

      Nice, but I like the Remington 12 Gauge 870 Super Mag. Pump, better... Can you do a review on one of those, setup for Combat, with a 10 round extension for the longer Super Mag. Shells? I have one and I can't find a custom barrel and ten round extension tube for it... Do you have these parts for my favorite Shotgun?
      Stiletto :)

  • @usarmyfl1
    @usarmyfl1 7 років тому +59

    My 88 eats everything, I love it! The action is a 500 so in that respect it is the same gun.

    • @1upthegreat
      @1upthegreat 4 роки тому +1

      not the same gun at all, but what ever makes you feel better.

    • @greasybastard7209
      @greasybastard7209 3 роки тому +1

      Pump shotguns usually eat just about anything not like its a semi

    • @Longshot88
      @Longshot88 3 роки тому +11

      @@1upthegreat "not the same gun at all" - ah yes, that's TOTALLY why they have various interchangeable parts!

  • @AxcelGamer97
    @AxcelGamer97 7 років тому +7

    My first shotgun is the Maverick 88 and I absolutely love it. The pump action is perfect for me and I love taking it dove, turkey, and crane hunting.

  • @allaroundfishermen
    @allaroundfishermen 4 роки тому +18

    I’m a Iraq veteran too. Just bought my maverick 88 today. Thank you sir 👍well explained.

  • @futuresonex
    @futuresonex 10 років тому +85

    This was great video! I've been a big fan of Mossberg 500 series shotguns for a long time. I know the Remington 870 gets all the glory, but most of the time I'd rather have a 500.
    I would like to add my 2¢ to this discussion though. If you're choosing a pump shotgun for basic hunting the Mossberg 500 is, IMHO, the clear winner in this department. The top tang safety is completely ambidextrous, and the shotgun is ball bat reliable. However, if you're looking for a pump shotgun for home defense, duty or combat use the decision isn't so clear cut. Before you buy the shotgun you need to ask yourself a few questions about the accessories that you want to equip it with:
    1) Are you going to stick with a traditionally styled buttstock? If so the 500/590 is still a superb choice.
    2) Are you going to put an M4 style stock & pistol grip on it? Here's where we run into the problem. While there are many such stocks and pistol grips out there for the 500 series shotguns they are not ideally suited to this particular weapon due to the tang safety. In order to operate the tang safety you will have to remove your firing hand from the pistol grip in order to reach up to the safety. If an M4 style stock is the way you want to go I'd recommend getting either a Remington 870 or the Mossberg/Maverick 88 instead. They are much better suited to that type of a stock.
    3) Do you want to be able to equip your shotgun with a Burris SpeedBead? When it comes to RDS sights on a shotgun the Burris SpeedBead is my personal favorite. It doesn't block any of the field of view, and it still lets you handle the gun like a shotgun rather than forcing you to handle it like a rifle the way most rail mounted sights do. Unfortunately the SpeedBead is not available for the Mossberg 500/590 series shotguns because it sets in exactly the same place as the tang safety.
    I have three 'tactical' shotguns in my collection, a Kel-tec KSG (which is a totally awesome home defense gun!), a Remington 870 and a Mossberg 500. They are all setup differently, and of the three the Mossberg is probably the most versatile and is definitely the lightest. It's setup with a 20" barrel, 8-shot tube, a Knoxx Compstock recoil reducing buttstock, barrel mounted XS 24/7 Big Dot express style sights & a Viridian X5L-RS tactical light/green laser combo.
    I built this gun to serve not only as a home defense shotgun but also as my primary bear defense gun in the mountains of Idaho, and in a grid down, SHTF, survival scenario this would be my shotgun of choice. Why? Because it still handles and feels like a shotgun! Sure it works great in a tactical setting, as do the KSG and the 870, but unlike those two excellent shotguns this one works equally well for hunting. I'm not talking about hunting big game here; any of the three will work just fine for that. I mean the type of hunting that shotguns were meant for: birds, rabbits, squirrels and other small, fast moving creatures. A pistol grip & M4 style stock aren't an asset here; they're a handicap. (There's a reason why most 3-gun champions use shotguns that still look like shotguns!)
    As much as I love my other two 'tactical' shotguns, the way they are set up means that they no longer handle like shotguns but rather like rifles. This is fine in a home defense scenario but far less useful in the field. That's something to keep in mind when you're setting up your shotgun!

    • @chriscosby51
      @chriscosby51 6 років тому +2

      Gunslinger454 you don't have to do all that to a gun for home defense lol if it will kill a deer it will kill a human faster

    • @jeffscuderi8662
      @jeffscuderi8662 5 років тому

      Ithaca 37 Browning bps marlin 120

  • @derptothemaxclearly
    @derptothemaxclearly 9 років тому +175

    Damn need a 590 now

    •  9 років тому +11

      +Jaysun Duran everyone needs one! lol

    • @JasonParker_114
      @JasonParker_114 8 років тому +4

      +BRAK54 Or two

    • @Man-vs-Metal
      @Man-vs-Metal 5 років тому +3

      First firearm I purchased so I have a soft spot but I'd choose my 590 over my AR in many applications

    • @davec.3198
      @davec.3198 4 роки тому

      Don't forget the 930.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 4 роки тому

      Or the 940 JM Pro. Race gun right out of the box.

  • @georgeserrano8354
    @georgeserrano8354 6 років тому +7

    My favorite firearm, and most versatile weapon I own. I am a mossberg fan. I can alway count on it's ruggedness, dependability, and easy maintenance. Accessories and parts are plentiful, as well as customer support. Thank you again for your informative video.

  • @billhman
    @billhman 3 роки тому +2

    Glad you brought out the weakness in the plastic/polymer trigger assembly. I had this happen. They do break. I would recommend upgrading to the all metal assembly like he said.

  • @generaldestruction3084
    @generaldestruction3084 3 роки тому +17

    It's amazing how times have changed, I would have never thought it would be so hard to get either of the 3 nevertheless the prices they are bringing at the current time.

    • @Germfish
      @Germfish 3 роки тому +2

      I just bought a 590 for 500 new.

    • @HatsuneM1ku01
      @HatsuneM1ku01 Рік тому

      @@Germfish590a1 is 1100 dollhair in late 2023

  • @Mr_Fu_Manchu
    @Mr_Fu_Manchu 9 років тому +95

    500 bucks for the most expensive Mossberg ? You lucky US bastards , in my country the price is pretty much double !

    • @chindas12
      @chindas12 9 років тому +7

      +Cronicas 559 Here in Spain, the Marineer is about 800 or 850 USD :(

    • @lioncelica5170
      @lioncelica5170 9 років тому +7

      +chindas12 That's not as bad as even Canada. They are directly above the US and an AR15 can cost 3 times as much! It's outrageous!

    • @alfredbaxter
      @alfredbaxter 9 років тому +1

      +Ronin T im from minnesota I went to the gun shop other day it was cheaper than that it was like 350

    • @alfredbaxter
      @alfredbaxter 9 років тому +1

      +Lion Celica Mossberg 500

    • @lioncelica5170
      @lioncelica5170 9 років тому

      Alfred Baxter Good! I wanna get a 500 Tactical Cruiser. For some reason, they labeled a 590 as a 500 and with a 500's price tag too. Sounds good to me!

  • @joebuddensbeard6615
    @joebuddensbeard6615 4 роки тому +20

    The background is my current dream set up

  • @rustyshackleford5066
    @rustyshackleford5066 8 років тому +353

    I got my 500 today for a $275 at Walmart so worth it

    • @dannielfarrel5100
      @dannielfarrel5100 8 років тому +16

      im just turning 20 but the law prohibites me from owning one of the handgun
      so my choice is only the long gun
      i had my thought on buying the maverick 88 or mossberg 500
      but keep in mind my budget is only $200 or less because ill spent the rest on buying body armor from ar500 both front plate and back plate and a helmet. pls help me

    • @DESIGNPASSI0N
      @DESIGNPASSI0N 8 років тому +14

      You can probably buy a used maverick 88 for right at $200. Just gonna have to look around.

    • @dannielfarrel5100
      @dannielfarrel5100 8 років тому +2

      i look the price in walmart is way too high $250 for a maverick? fuck it if theres a brand new maverick not used one in online shop ill take it for atleast $215. but if theres nothing as low as that thinking to consider the used one.

    • @markanttrin
      @markanttrin 8 років тому +39

      I bought my Maverick 88 last week at Dick's Sporting goods for 189.98 came out to $243 altogether since Commiefornia has high tax.

    • @jasonfrancois2460
      @jasonfrancois2460 8 років тому +2

      hell yeah I plan to get my Mossberg 88 some time in November I guess I'll call it an early Christmas present

  • @victotyorvalhalla
    @victotyorvalhalla 17 днів тому

    Really appreciate videos like this! You remove the guesswork, as well as the fluff from other videos and online forums.

  • @BigBoss-tv1ls
    @BigBoss-tv1ls 8 років тому +67

    I've watched a lot of your videos. I just felt like saying that you are awesome.

  • @coltpython5763
    @coltpython5763 8 років тому +122

    actually Eagle Pass Texas

    • @zonkeymaker
      @zonkeymaker 7 років тому +9

      colt python I'm from El Paso and I was like I've never heard about any damn mossberg factories

    • @coltpython5763
      @coltpython5763 7 років тому +6

      zonkeymaker yeah Eric just got confused the Factory as an eagles pass but all they make is the Maverick 88 there

    • @ZackMarrs556NAT0
      @ZackMarrs556NAT0 7 років тому +3

      colt python they assemble it there, parts are made in Mexico

    • @justinv3080
      @justinv3080 6 років тому +2

      Eagle pass is right on the Mexican border too

    • @edhoonigan434
      @edhoonigan434 6 років тому +1

      Zack Mars some of the parts

  • @1981seafarer
    @1981seafarer 9 років тому +9

    Thank you for this review. I had always thought the Mariner was just the 500 with a Marinecote finish.

  • @skswig1
    @skswig1 8 років тому +271

    I have never seen one of the plastic trigger guards break

    • @clunkmess
      @clunkmess 8 років тому +39

      maybe Mossberg paid them to say that so people will be convinced to spend the extra money on the 590?

    • @Wallawallasomm
      @Wallawallasomm 8 років тому +9

      +clunkmess 590 is for trench warfare. when I graduate from my 500. it will be a 590

    • @tomswinburn1778
      @tomswinburn1778 8 років тому +63

      +Shawn Swigart
      I don't think it's a common problem. And, in my humble opinion a problem only for those who treat their weapons as if they were anvils rather than intricate machinery. Most SET their guns down, not THROW them down. Most keep their weapons supported, so they don't fall. Take care of your 88 or 500 and it will take care of you. Mistreat it at your own peril.

    • @cmj20002
      @cmj20002 6 років тому +40

      I have a 500 with the pistol grip on it for home defense. I have shot it many times at the gravel pit and this gun is over 20 years old now and the trigger guard is in perfect shape. It has never let me down.

    • @Notetoself1934
      @Notetoself1934 6 років тому

      Shawn Swigart no but they can

  • @reekoh8277
    @reekoh8277 4 роки тому +2

    You’re the best Eric. As far as the polymer trigger guard is concerned on the 88 and 500, while you say they’re notorious for breaking, most owners don’t have a break issue.

  • @Stephen-er4bi
    @Stephen-er4bi 5 років тому +9

    I always thought the heat shields main purpose was to protect your skin from getting burned. I've shot boxes of shells rapidly at the range and never had a problem with heat rising off the barrel affecting my vision.

  • @dougs1578
    @dougs1578 9 років тому +141

    Interestingly, I've tried doing research on the subject, and it is difficult to find anything indicating that the polymer trigger guards are breaking. Actually, everything I've been able to find on the subject stated just the opposite, that they are durable, and don't generally break. At least twice in this video, the review used the word "notorious" in regard to the polymer trigger guards being "notorious" for breaking. In one sentence he indicates the 500 is excellent quality, and practically in the next sentence he states that they are notorious for breaking in the trigger guard rendering the shotgun inoperable. Seems like a contradiction to me. It's either quality, or notorious for breaking. No offense to the reviewer. Just found this a bit contradictory, and possibly unfounded. I even (just now) did a UA-cam search for broken Mossberg trigger guards, and at least in the first couple of pages, nothing. Can't imagine if it were a regular occurrence that people wouldn't be posting the videos here.

    • @Mr420roller1
      @Mr420roller1 9 років тому +6

      I've heard that the polymer trigger guard flexes when the steel one does not and that its more durable but I think he's talking about the lip of the trigger pack closest to the breach, it slides above the metal lip but if someone were to put enough pressure on the trigger guard to sheer that polymer against that steel lip it would definitely be inoperable, its like cars, it can be a great car and still break down, nothing is impervious to harm

    • @jacknifedbl
      @jacknifedbl 9 років тому +5

      +Doug S replacements are cheap 50 for plastic and 80 for metal upgrade i have had my 88 for several years now w decant amount of use and no issues

    • @anthonyclark9159
      @anthonyclark9159 9 років тому +4

      Google harder they are there in plain sight, the guard on my 500 is cracked right now

    • @Mr420roller1
      @Mr420roller1 9 років тому +3

      What in the hell did you do to do that

    • @anthonyclark9159
      @anthonyclark9159 9 років тому

      Corpus Cal no idea, just took it out to clean my gun once and it was cracked, I keep it in a gun sock, so maybe it got broke transporting it to and from the range.

  • @rockisland5424
    @rockisland5424 7 років тому +9

    Dude this was the best review I've seen...you answered all my questions. Good job

  • @Corelogik73
    @Corelogik73 8 років тому +18

    I don't know that I would say that the polymer trigger guards are "notorious" for breaking. You certainly hear about it on the internet, but I have yet to actually see one, in person or in pictures,... Im sure in some extreme cases or in the case of an extremely old or not well maintained sample, it COULD happen, but it's hardly known for it with normal to moderate use.

    • @edwardsitzes5743
      @edwardsitzes5743 5 років тому

      I have had my Mossberg 500 for a few years and I have never had any trouble with it but I take care of it to so I don't throw guns around much lol give your guns the respect they deserve just like any tool and they will not let you down

  • @ericdee6802
    @ericdee6802 3 роки тому +2

    I just bought the Mossberg 590 with factory installed heat shield, absolutely love it. 👍

    • @matts.4095
      @matts.4095 2 роки тому

      me too today, with a ghost ring sight, how do you like it now, and how many rounds you shot through it??????

  • @st-dm5mr
    @st-dm5mr 4 роки тому +2

    I've bought both the 88 and 500 for remote mineral exploration bush camps. They seldom if ever are used in anger. They survive annual training of camp staff, stored for most of their lives in unheated damp warehouses in Canada, usually neglected and serviced only when the rust starts to show. Never had a problem with them. Good bread and butter gun.

  • @cronos222
    @cronos222 9 років тому +5

    I've been looking for a 12 gauge pump and this was the most genuinely helpful video yet . Great video and thanks .

  • @Hugh_Hunt
    @Hugh_Hunt 10 років тому +14

    Thank you for educating the world on firearms. You are doing the second amendment good, with your educational videos.

  • @CAVlogs121
    @CAVlogs121 5 років тому +25

    I own a Mossberg 500 and a Remington 870. I argue they’re both awesome.

    • @doomslayer3076
      @doomslayer3076 5 років тому +6

      Rem has gone far downhill the last few years

  • @jdirthead
    @jdirthead 5 років тому +2

    I bought my Mossbergs back in the 90's and never had an issue with the trigger group with any of them. But a steel upgrade is tempting.

  • @XxskidudekidxX
    @XxskidudekidxX 10 місяців тому

    9 Years later, you just answered my questions. Thank you!

  • @markdelaney1384
    @markdelaney1384 5 років тому +5

    Great explanations, clear, concise, you’re a natural at this and should do more. You clearly know your subject matter. I’m all in for a Mossberg, just has to be Mass compliment

  • @GrandpaD78
    @GrandpaD78 4 роки тому +4

    A quality, well thought out and informative video about the Mossberg! Thank you!

  • @WhiskeyRiverRifleman
    @WhiskeyRiverRifleman 10 років тому +20

    590 has a thicker walled barrel than the 500, as well.

  • @The_Temple
    @The_Temple 6 років тому

    have owned a maverick 88 for about 20 years - been rock solid reliable, never the least bit of trouble & have put I don't know how many hundreds of shells through it

  • @godofwarspartan1243
    @godofwarspartan1243 5 років тому +1

    Bought an m88 today and tested it with slugs. Damn, that thing kicked!! Very impressed overall.

  • @kletterman
    @kletterman 9 років тому +21

    Nice video. It answered a lot of questions. Right now I can buy a 500 on sale AND a metal trigger assembly replacement (If the current guard breaks) for $250 or so less than the 590a1. I'm not a hunter, prepper, or zombie killer, so I think it will work out fine. Thanks for the info.

    • @679iceman
      @679iceman 9 років тому

      Even if you were one of those guys the 500 is by far the best deal. The a1 is just too bad expensive for what you get. It's an awesome looking gun but to me not worth the cash unless money is no object.

    • @chasebabcock1022
      @chasebabcock1022 5 років тому

      Kevin Letterman is the best

  • @service1956
    @service1956 7 років тому +8

    You guy's are very good at posting your videos providing a lot of information. However, the polymer trigger groups on both the 500 & 88 have been redesigned for some time now. The two tabs that stick out on each side of the trigger group have been made thicker. That and the milled channels cut into the receiver have been made wider and slightly deeper to accommodate the new design.

  • @jimmeli5200
    @jimmeli5200 5 років тому +11

    I own 2 500's, One I've owned 30 years which has seen heavy use including bouncing around in my truck for weeks etc. NEVER a failure or breakage. It's fired 1000's of rounds flawlessly. Very dependable. Buy it.

  • @greggwonder2199
    @greggwonder2199 6 років тому

    Thks Eric. I own 5 Mossies and a few others, one is 40 yrs old. Just one trip to the smith for a slide jam. Original cost (40 yrs ago) 200 bucs. After 4 diff barrels n chokes add another 400 but I have a shotgun that covers about all situations for 600 bucks, can't complain. If a trigger housing brakes i will just get a metal one from Moss. Their cust support has been good with me, again no complaints. 👍

  • @jameela7899
    @jameela7899 5 років тому +8

    Just bought a lightly used 88 for $150 US. I haven't shot it yet, but it feels great. It's my truck gun 👌🏽

  • @johnrudolph527
    @johnrudolph527 9 років тому +8

    Yeah it was helpful alright, for gun dealers! now I'm no longer satisfied with my 88. gotta trade in the old maverick for the 590a-1 ! no seriously I do enjoy your vids and learn something about every time, either that or get a good laugh watching you and that older cat blowing stuff up at the range. keep on keepin`on.

  • @chrishylton528
    @chrishylton528 8 років тому +31

    can y'all do a torture test on the maverick 88??

  • @De55808
    @De55808 10 років тому +7

    Just got my 500 today and i love it! Just thought id throw that out there

    • @bj6437
      @bj6437 4 роки тому

      Bailey Ike cool

  • @kellyharmon8897
    @kellyharmon8897 7 років тому +2

    I have a maverick 88 and it is awesome. I have owned both and really enjoyed the maverick better for home defense because of the safety is on the trigger ,( like most handguns )group but I realize after this video after I put my Weaver rail to mount a scope and other modifications it would have been easier to keep the 500, but as far as function and reliability there is zero difference in the civilian world .I have shot over two hundred shells through each and never a problem both 2 3/4 and 3inch great video Very truthful

  • @billymcfuggin7549
    @billymcfuggin7549 8 років тому

    The Maverick is the same gun as the 500. I have taken them both apart side by side. They work extremely well. You can easily do the conversion on the slide action tube with the following:
    Mossberg part numbers:
    Slide Tube: 11603BL - $34.00
    Slide Tube Nut: 3408 - $12.00
    Order direct from Mossberg
    I have the 8 shot 20" barrel version and did a full ATI stock, fore grip, heat shield and action tube for much less than the cost of the 500 security

  • @lebuford5029
    @lebuford5029 4 роки тому +3

    I bought a 88 and added a heat shield and shell holder. It looks like a 500 and saved me $200. At the end of the day , long as my gun functions 100% of the time. I could care less about how pretty it looks!

  • @AviMus82
    @AviMus82 5 років тому +3

    The Army also uses mossberg 500. They may have changed since I was in, but I verified from my old company armorer. And I used one so I know as well. They may also use a 590a1, but when I was still in the army in 2013 ours were regular 500’s. I can’t speak for other units in the army or other branches. They may have had or have the 590a1, but while I was in my unit had the 500. I don’t remember if it was a metal trigger guard or not, but I remember seeing 500 not 590a1 stamped on the receiver.

  • @laytondougherty436
    @laytondougherty436 9 років тому +12

    I've never heard of a polymer trigger guard breaking. I've actually heard that the polymer is more durable than the cast metal. You would have to severly abuse the trigger guard to break it. It's not going to happen just from every day use.

    • @rickhenderson13
      @rickhenderson13 9 років тому

      They do break and quite easily too, if you try to put the rear of the trigger group in before you put the front in on reassembly. I did this years ago when I was young and my motto was "If it don't fit , force it". I have known others to do it as well

    • @MegaWhalerman
      @MegaWhalerman 9 років тому +8

      I've never heard of them breaking either. The film man used the word "notorious" at least three times. How can it be notorious if it hardly ever happens. I checked the most experienced gunsmith I know, and though he didn't say it couldn't happen, he never heard of it either. Many of us are dead set against polymer anything. Is it possible that's the case here.

  • @BrianJohnson-tz6xl
    @BrianJohnson-tz6xl 4 роки тому +2

    I have owned my 500a for 2 years now best shotgun I've ever had !! Never had a problem with it , would recommend it to anyone looking for a good shotgun!

  • @ScottAT
    @ScottAT 7 років тому

    I have an 88 I installed a warhammer rail system on top. This allows for a ton of real estate to mount your dish washer, rear view mirror, and moon watching telescope on. (Lol) I am left handed but adapted to the button safety. I ported it myself with a #40 drill bit and counter sink. Center punch your plotted hole locations first. Deburr. Especially deburr. You can buy full steel or aluminum trigger groups from Mossberg direct.
    I am thinking of taking the finished product and having it duracoated or ceracoated

  • @RickyJr46
    @RickyJr46 3 роки тому +4

    Excellent overview, Eric. That marine A1 is a really cool tool!

  • @marcusreese4309
    @marcusreese4309 8 років тому +7

    I got my Mossberg 500 last night, from Academy. love it!!

  • @crvilca1
    @crvilca1 8 років тому +3

    Great Video and succinct. Thank you. I believe the A1 has a thicker barrel than the standard 590. Over half a pound heavier.

  • @greggwonder2199
    @greggwonder2199 7 років тому

    yuppers, got 4 mossy's. Sometimes an issue with them but i recommend them for the average shooter who can't spend big bucks. You can get a wide selection of barrels,rifled n chokes so u can shoot just about anything u want in one gun. I suggest buying 2 so if one goes to the shop you still have the barrels. Tks

  • @K4K96
    @K4K96 2 роки тому +1

    Have owned several 590s but those 88s are great. I bought a trio when they were $150. Still keep an 88 in the ranch truck. The cross bolt safety reminds me of the 10/22. I have sent more lead through the 88 than any other 12ga I have. Great platform. Hard to keep accessories from falling off so use loctite on all accessories mounting fasteners. That'll keep those extras glued on. Semper Invictus

  • @boogieman309
    @boogieman309 8 років тому +3

    i used to have a maverick 88 and i loved it. never had a single malfunction and for about $230 out the door what more can you ask for? but i recently upgraded to the 930 spx and its an absolute beast!

  • @jd12680
    @jd12680 8 років тому +3

    Getting a 500 and upgrading the trigger gaurd is more sensible than just paying for the whole package of a 590/590a1. but if you are all about that "look" instead of personalized and customized, make it your own setup... that's cool too. whatever tickles the pickle. haha!

  • @SupaFlyFatGuy859
    @SupaFlyFatGuy859 10 років тому +16

    I wonder if you can get a wood stock and fore grip for the 590... That would be GORGEOUS!

    • @SupaFlyFatGuy859
      @SupaFlyFatGuy859 10 років тому

      Is the Remington Marine Magnum to the 870 what the 590 is to the 500?

    • @Gunners_Mate_Guns
      @Gunners_Mate_Guns 10 років тому +1

      *****
      It would appear so - www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model-870/model-870-marine-magnum.aspx

    • @Sasquads
      @Sasquads 10 років тому +2

      Look at the Mossberg 500 ATP it was the prototype to the 590 a 1 but had wood stock and grip, bayonet lug, heavy parkerized finish, 7 shot capacity, and fold down adjustable sights. I know this because I own one it'll probably be buried with me because I love it that much.

    • @pinkiewerewolf
      @pinkiewerewolf 10 років тому

      watch a video by a guy that goes by mr2ndammendment (might be a different spelling) he did this modification and NOT all 500/590 wood stocks fit. i believe he used stocks from 80's vintage.
      It is one uber cool mod though!

    • @Krankie_V
      @Krankie_V 10 років тому

      you sure can, my 500 came with a beautiful Walnut stock and forearm. You'll pay quite a bit more for those though.

  • @kenmarshall4
    @kenmarshall4 6 років тому

    I’ve got a 590 mariner and live it, put a hogue 12”lop stock and a hogue forend with a 6 round side saddle, 20” barrel holds 8 in the tube and one in the pipe.
    Awesome firearm!!!!

  • @antmusic41
    @antmusic41 7 років тому +1

    I second Big Boss's sentiment regrading IV8888 videos. Love every video they put out. Educational and communicated in a great tone. Continued success!

  • @my87f150
    @my87f150 5 років тому +3

    Thank you its gonna be a 590a1 for me in black with the walnut furniture

  •  4 роки тому +3

    Your channel has grown a lot. You dont introduce yourself as a pawnshop employee

  • @doomcrewoutdoors1613
    @doomcrewoutdoors1613 5 років тому +6

    ***some 500s come with a pinned forend as well, I got bit by one of these 500s a few years ago***

  • @patrickfullan9509
    @patrickfullan9509 3 роки тому +1

    I've had my 500 for 27 years and never had a problem with the trigger group. It's all original with the exception of the AR style collapsible buttstock.

  • @MrStag-gy9yn
    @MrStag-gy9yn 5 років тому

    Got a 590 with heat shield and extra shell storage stock for $300 at Cabelas. A good cleaning and its like new.

  • @MACE_HINDU
    @MACE_HINDU 5 років тому +5

    I love my Mossberg 500 it's a great shotgun

  • @EuricDinkins
    @EuricDinkins 9 років тому +17

    I have a 500. Pistol grip with riot breach barrel. Good shit.

    • @MrPolo410
      @MrPolo410 8 років тому

      I do too and I love it

    • @Wallawallasomm
      @Wallawallasomm 8 років тому

      +Euric Dinkins Raptor grip is new pimp grip.

    • @Wallawallasomm
      @Wallawallasomm 8 років тому +2

      +trigga t You are so fired!! One nation under God.

    • @guenthersteiner8163
      @guenthersteiner8163 8 років тому

      +trigga t sounds like somebody had a few extra chromosomes. These my friends are the dangers of inbreeding

    • @guenthersteiner8163
      @guenthersteiner8163 8 років тому

      +James Darden fired by whom

  • @1guyin10
    @1guyin10 8 років тому +3

    One thing that Eric left out that is very important to know is that the magazine tube on the 88 and 500 are not extendable. The 590 can be extended like you could on a Remington or Winchester. If you are buying new you can always get the 8 round version of the 88 or 500, but don't pick up a used 5 round model and think you can screw on more capacity (doing so requires spending the price of the gun on a barrel and magazine set....)

    • @tyhoe
      @tyhoe 8 років тому

      Everything to complete the swap is $125 on Brownells. Good option if you got a great deal on the gun like me ($99 almost 10 years ago). With that being said, you can buy the 8 shot version most places for $200.

    • @1guyin10
      @1guyin10 8 років тому

      tyhoe The one they have listed right now is a barrel and mag tube kit that is $179. I decided to stick with the 6 rounds mine currently holds. I figure if 6 rounds of 00 buck can't rectify the situation then I'm in deep kimchi anyway.
      If you are buying new then that $200 8 shot Maverick 88 is a good deal. Another $100 should get you into an 8 shot 500, if you can find one.

    • @tyhoe
      @tyhoe 8 років тому +1

      +1guyin10 The one that is $179 has the rifle sights. If you buy the 8 shot mag, spring, and 20" barrel with bead sight seperately it's $125. I just looked them up today. I have a 500 and an 88, both have been with me almost 10 years, and they've been treated ROUGH. Ranch work and being tossed in the back of the truck/getting muddy, etc. They have both held up exceptionally. The 500 is staying on bird duty, and the 88 is getting the extended mag/shorter barrel because I like the way it looks.

    • @1guyin10
      @1guyin10 8 років тому

      tyhoe That would make sense. Something you can drop slugs in might be real handy.

  • @WWIIman1942
    @WWIIman1942 2 роки тому

    Recently bought a 590A1 with 20" barrel, full tube, bayonet lug (came new in box with an Ontario M9 bayonet), and Ghost Ring sights. I was more than impressed with how solid this shotgun feels. I can tell this thing will last me more than a lifetime. Pricetag was a little steep, but I felt for what it is, the exceptional quality, features the desirable GRS, and the fact that it comes with the bayonet, it was well worth the money. I'm in love with this thing!

  • @tylertuthill5121
    @tylertuthill5121 2 роки тому

    No nonsense informative video. I miss when people used to do it like this.

  • @shaneroehrig985
    @shaneroehrig985 8 років тому +4

    Very cool video Eric thanks for showing and explaining the differences in the Mossberg shotguns. Although now Im a bit nervous on purchasing a model 88 for weekend shooting because of the polymer breaking...Should I be worried if I want a 88 and plan on shooting it frequently?

  • @douglasfulmer5483
    @douglasfulmer5483 9 років тому +22

    The plastic trigger guard is actually stronger than the metal one. Ask any gunsmith.

    • @scalesandshellsoutdoors7097
      @scalesandshellsoutdoors7097 8 років тому +2

      never seen a trigger guard of either material break on one. but I don't take might and roll in the mud or jump up and down on it lol.

    • @douglasfulmer5483
      @douglasfulmer5483 8 років тому +4

      Scales and Shells Outdoors Haha. Yeah, sometimes this channel gets it's information wrong. Aluminum will shatter, but polymer will slightly deform. Of course some people just hate synthetics I guess.

    • @douglasfulmer5483
      @douglasfulmer5483 8 років тому +2

      Afra Bangash The Maverick 88 is rated highly by Gun Tests, about the only magazine that is worth paying attention too. Not quite a 500/590a1, though.

    • @danielj5650
      @danielj5650 7 років тому

      Plastic does not last- I want a gun that I will not ever have to replace parts (with the exception of springs)

    • @douglasfulmer5483
      @douglasfulmer5483 7 років тому +3

      Sadly Dan that is just not feasible, no matter what gun you are talking about. Old muskets even break down and need parts replaced.
      If you really want the closest would probably, and I want to stress probably, be an Winchester Model 12 or Ithaca. They were made all steel and well maintained might be okay without replacements.
      Keep in mind I have never seen a pump fail, ever. With hundreds of shells.

  • @ggkoutdoors4568
    @ggkoutdoors4568 9 років тому +14

    590a1 also has a thicker barrel, just saying

    • @scalesandshellsoutdoors7097
      @scalesandshellsoutdoors7097 8 років тому

      it's also has a steel receiver instead of an alloy like the 88 and 500

    • @thesadprepper3722
      @thesadprepper3722 7 років тому +2

      GGK Outdoors T H I C C

    • @austinrides7514
      @austinrides7514 6 років тому +2

      Scales and Shells Outdoors no it’s alloy like all the others

    • @freddieh5539
      @freddieh5539 5 років тому +3

      My girlfriend keeps saying she wants a thicker barrel. I don't think she's talking about shotguns.

  • @jonathanboerema2872
    @jonathanboerema2872 4 роки тому

    I have been using my dad's that he bought, in 1976 no problem I got 4 more now hunting home defense. Good gun

  • @salroth420
    @salroth420 3 роки тому +2

    I am so happy after seeing this!
    Went into Walmart for some stuff and I noticed they had guns on the shelves. Right there in the display was a Mossberg 500 28" with wood furniture for $277! They told me they have had the guns in the back since last year and still have the same price tags from when they got them. And lucky again they had just put out 4 cases of 00Buck for $13.22 a 15pk.😇😇😇😇😇

  • @MrNedsaabdickerson
    @MrNedsaabdickerson 10 років тому +7

    They are made in Eagle Pass Texas NOT El Paso. I have one and I like it.

    • @P.B.Theriver
      @P.B.Theriver 10 років тому +3

      lol, he only missed it by 477 miles, hehe

    • @jaydawg116
      @jaydawg116 5 років тому

      So.... eagle paso? Close enough.

    • @donsettie344
      @donsettie344 4 роки тому

      El Paso is where they make salsa and process coupons.

  • @lgnlint
    @lgnlint 10 років тому +4

    Good video, I love my Mossberg 500 "Tactical Defender" model. It's such a shame what happened to Remington's quality. It just goes to show what happens to trusted, quality American companies when they're bought out by some large corporation who couldn't care less about the quality of their products and only cares about the bottom line.

    • @lgnlint
      @lgnlint 10 років тому +2

      Forgot to say that on my 500 I did end up replacing the trigger group with an all metal version. The cracking of the polymer was my fault though, as I had the gun hanging over the edge of the table as I was cleaning it and my dog came through and bumped it off. If I hadn't been careless and had it fully secured on the table it probably would have lasted a lifetime, as I am not very rough with my firearms.

    • @CaliRob281
      @CaliRob281 10 років тому +1

      Ch0plol I have the Thunder Ranch 500 model, was it relatively simple to change out the trigger guard?

  • @bigspade187
    @bigspade187 10 років тому +6

    It would be nice to do one on the Benelli line.

  • @zeerie7521
    @zeerie7521 5 років тому +1

    This man explained these weapons very well. I can tell he know about self defense. Great job!!!!

  • @sassysilver4451
    @sassysilver4451 2 роки тому

    The sound of the recharge is just fantastic.

  • @einar90808
    @einar90808 5 років тому +4

    the Mav is pretty nice. I like the safety on the trigger guard personally

    • @n8spL8
      @n8spL8 3 роки тому

      it's optimal for right handers and almost necessary if using a pistol grip.

    • @einar90808
      @einar90808 3 роки тому

      @@n8spL8 I have used it for right and left handed use. It takes less time to hook my left index finger under and disengage the safety on the Mav than it does to move my thumb on the Mossberg 500. That is my personal experience and preference... 'your mileage may vary'

  • @WhiteWolfLIT
    @WhiteWolfLIT 5 років тому +4

    Hard to think that 2014 was already 5 years ago

  • @ctprepper69
    @ctprepper69 10 років тому +4

    So much missing info in this video! The 590 also has the plastic trigger guard, only the 590A1 has the metal. Second you failed to mention that the 590 and 500 can not share barrels. This is probably the most important difference! 590 mag tubes are designed to be opened at the muzzle end, and the barrels fit around the magazine tube and are held on by a nut at the end. The 500 is closed ended and the barrel bolt hold the barrel to the mag tube. Come on guys!

    • @denlew2265
      @denlew2265 5 років тому

      Newer 500's with the LPA (adjustable) trigger system, have metal trigger housing/guard.

    • @crawwwfishh3284
      @crawwwfishh3284 Місяць тому

      What do you know about a new haven 600 at made by moss berg.

  • @PNW_Sportbike_Life
    @PNW_Sportbike_Life 8 років тому

    My 590A1 had a catastrophic failure at the range at about the 150 shell count. Trigger retaining pin broke rendering the gun inoperable. Couldn't work the action at all. Removed the trigger group, sent it to Mossberg and it was replaced; no questions asked. I replaced it, and sold it. I now use the 930 SPX and it's been rock solid.

  • @antcri730
    @antcri730 4 роки тому

    That shield on top of the barrel is not to dissipate heat, it actually traps heat. Its mostly for looks and to keep from burning your hand if for some strange reason you wanted to grab the top of the barrel while you're shooting.