MA v Karen Read: Michael Proctor's Testimony | Officer John O'Keefe
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hello from michigan
I'm starting to really think they took John into the Alberts house to confront him and maybe mess him up for something. They took him in the basement, beat him up, and threw him on the front lawn. These cold hearted sociopaths have shown us all who they are. They tossed him out like bar hops do.
And he must have broken their code somehow. And they all act like mobsters, so why wouldn't they act like Mobsters that night after a night of drinking? I would expect nothing less than a mobster-like activity from these cops and their wives and kids. It's all in the family.
They killed John O'Keefe, and they really did frame Karen Reed for it. I started this out thinking that was crazy. Today is the first day I realized that that is exactly what happened. They beat him to death or to near death, and tossed him on the lawn. And then they framed Karen Reed.
It's utterly shocking, but I guess it really shouldn't be. Listening to these people on the stand, they're all bullies since high school that have been running this town, and I would have feared to cross them after hearing them. They're all scary.
John must have crossed them. It's clear Proctor hated them. And the thing that screams the loudest to me, is that nobody acted like a fellow officer was down!!!!!!
Last month we had one down in my town, everybody in town including the cops lined the freeway as they drove his body away. Everybody mourned.
Not in Canton Massachusetts. It was just THAT GUY, his BODY,. They're either sociopaths or tyrants who are abusing their power and have been for a long time. If they don't clean out the entire place top to bottom, then John O'Keefe died for nothing.
Vinney I hope I spelled your name correctly. Thanks for your objectivity. I believe Karen Read is guilty but unfortunately because of Proctor's unprofessionalism it did something to the atmosphere in Court and it takes somehow the legitimacy away from Proctor's evidence. On the other side Karen Read's legal team also told lies to the Court so far via their client. If Karen going to take the stand she will go definitely to a very long jail term. Love from Cape Town ,sunny South Africa. Carel
@@carelvanwyk6048 I just have one question for you, if you think she if guilty, where is all the blood.????He lost 3 LT of blood. First responders found Where did it go? On the basement floor that was dug up and replaced I'm thinking...3 drops of blood found by first responders.
@@SilentThundersnowdefinitely didn't like john for some reason
Proctor says he isn't proud of his comment but his wife is so proud of his statements 😮
Right!! She is trash just like him!! Or could she be abused and knows what she would be going through if she didn’t “stand by her man” idk 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah she doesn't want to seem unsupportive she herself might look bad. If she really feels that way she's a bigger douché than her husband
The more I follow this case the more convinced I am that everyone involved are rotten people.
ABSOLUTELY!!!
No one is trustworthy, no one has any integrity. Cannot convict!!
Agree it just keeps getting worse for the state. Give it up!!! They fumbled any oppty at justice and overcharged. Take the L and request dismissal!!!
the more🤦♀️ really...
Closing arguments for this case should be absolutely EPIC.
Can’t freaking wait!
Nah not really not as epic as oj simpsen
C’mon, a Public Crime Scene that is wide open for 2 weeks? You can’t possibly call that “evidence”. It’s ridiculous. Canton, what is going on with your PD?
Well said!
boston's always been corrupt...
What’s going on with collecting evidence opened with the public for two weeks? What’s going on? Is business as usual that police department
@@charleslaurice
lol, right...per~usual.
57 witnesses for the prosecution?
still ain't proved nothing. and #1.
John's right arm, those are defense injuries.
not abrasions
(those are not surface skin injuries)
they are flesh wounds, lacerations.
*when the trooper had that fruedian slip and said lacerations, when the whole time he had been saying abrasions...🤦♀️
then says: oh umm, abrasions, nope trick no good. *KARMA*
AND.... they let the snow MELT off the vehicle (before inspecting it)... something that could have easily held 'evidence' itself..... lazy... just LAZY.... OR... this whole thing was made to have her look guilty.
Check for yourselves. Karen Read drove a Lexus? Correct?
Lexus says her car cannot reach 24 MPH in Reverse. This is the Manufacturer stating this fact. Now what? 15 MPH tops. So 20MPH tops. In the snow like it was that night with the tires spinning if she was driving in reverse towards him she may have reached an actual speed of 5 MPH due to loss of traction! Eliminating any control of the vehicle making it impossible for her to have hit him, let alone hit him hard enough to kill him. He was dead when he had been placed there. If he had only been unconscious he would've woke up due to the cold long before he died. He was jumped inside that house lead by the youngster assisted by other family members including the dog. This is why the basement floor was removed. The dog gotten rid of. The house sold at way below what comps show it should've been sold for and phones that held evidence purposely destroyed . The reversed video of her vehicle. And an unsecured crime scene . The first responder cop that lived in the house never coming out to find out what was happening in his very own front yard. He has a duty to go out to see if he could help. So no, she is not guilty.
the evidence does not match the injuries
Spot-on Hank!!! Can you believe that there are peeps that still think she's guilty of murder??? Even after all these Factors...?
Yes, the text messages are bad, the fact that the superiors never called him out for them is bad. Very bad. But for me it's not the worst.
The worst is the bias and the glee at arresting her. Knowing this the whole investigation is in question. And that's pretty frightening.
And the fact is wife hasn’t divorced him after all of this
Yep. Calling her slurs and talking about how she was gonna get some big charges against her before he had talked to more than 3 people.
I really don’t believe that all that taillight appeared there at the time of the accident. I think he planted it.
I don’t know why yet. Maybe he was really right about Karen hitting him and was trying to secure a conviction but didn’t think there would be enough evidence. Maybe he was wrong but didn’t know it and planted the evidence. Maybe he was wrong and he knew it and he did it anyways for some reason for Brian Albert.
Maybe Brian Albert’s and his family pointed him in her right direction as a cover for something that happened the night before and he took it and ran with it and decided to make sure that he got her.
They were trying to frame her and he was a dirty cop that doesn’t mind planting evidence to get his conviction.
With the evidence we have now if it still conceivable that he died by accident. That he slipped or stumbled and hit his head caused a brain bleed. Got up stumbled, hit his face, tried to drag himself up the lawn and passed out from the head injury plus the alcohol.
And when Proctor found out about the broken taillight he made up his mind that she hit him and planted the evidence to convict her…totally unaware it was just a tragic accident.
Also how he says, "give the gifts (bribes) to my wife Elizabeth" and how they tried to pressure the medical examiner to make a finding of vehicular homicide.
@@user-nj9db2tg9wProctor and his wife are a match made in heaven, she is terrible like him
I so appreciated your tribute to John O’Keefe❤ May he Rest in Peace🙏🏻 Thank you for your service Sir💙🇺🇸
I didn't cuz some of those ppl are probably involved... I had to turn the channel...
I felt sad for Karen Read having to sit there and listen to the trash talk about her!! BUT I ALSO felt sad for John Okeefe's family having to sit there and listen to the trash talk and "joking" about the investigation into their sons death!!
Unbelievable!! 😢
Maybe Johns family will have more faith in Karen now.....
Karen trashed talked John's family in text messages to Higgins. Karen pursued Higgins. Karen drank too much to drive. John is the one that needs justice.
@@Michbeachloverhe was probably just like them, they are all connected
I hope Mr O’Keefe s parents sue the hell out of the CommonWealth; and gets the FBI involved as well to bring justice to their sons Murder, and solve this Murder. Karen Read get ready to also sue the Commonwealth AND the entire McAlbert Families for Defamation and I hope Jennifer McCabe, gets put in prison for her part in being the ring leader. So many people should be arrested for Perjury! If the Courts do not enforce this people will lose even more respect for our legal system. Trooper Proctor deserves to FIRED from his job. Clearly he talks about his work to outside people. Why is he talking about this case to his sister? That not cool. It should be confidential. This Trooper is the lowest of lows the way he spoke of Karen Read. I hope he’s FIRED & WITHOUT his pension, then BOOK HIM DANO off to Prison he will go!
I think she backed over him in a blackout drunk. They were known to drink and brawl 😮
The fact Proctor openly admitted to that still to this day, he has not been reprimanded for his behavior, unprofessionalism and those text messages… IS INSANE.
I read somewhere he's going to lose his job after this is over with
Almost called that police department to complain today I think everyone on this thread should lol
@@samcox2618he will just go to another town.
I bet every cop in the world are busy deleting their locker room talk texts lol
It's not just the texts. He convicted her before any investigation. No investigation of the people in the house. Don't you find it strange that he ordered the tow truck before he even SAW her vehicle? Took her phone and car without a warrant? The texts just show how arrogant and misogynistic he is. If you are focused only on the texts you aren't following the trial.
@@GPDogDrool well she was running around saying she hit him depending on what version you believe should have been an open and shut case imo .
@@TeeJayNZ she wasn't running around at all, they put her in a psych ward because they needed time to place the broken tail light pieces around. I 100% would be thinking, "Did I hit him? Could I have run into him? My taillight is cracked and it wasn't yesterday" that's a totally normal thing to believe when your boyfriend is dead on the lawn. But way too much reasonable doubt.
@@TeeJayNZwe’re just going to tell lies now?
@Tess-163 Funny, not a single EMT, Fireman, Police Officer or ER doctor mentioned Karen said that in their reports from Jan 29th. Not one.
Main takeaway proctor was discussing an ongoing investigation with his friend in Tennessee also his sister and said in the stand he would never do that. Proof he is a liar and has tainted this investigation from the very beginning
A proctors from Tennessee he was probably sleeping with his sister
@@charleslauriceexactly the families are in the business of proctology
To me this case is over, Proctor hated Karen and her attorney from day 1, you cannot do an unbiased investigation when you're literally insulting the defendant to your friends while revealing super private information about her to the whole damn world the night after it happened, that's just bad police work. You always give people the benefit of doubt, that's why Jackson said everyone is a suspect until they aren't. They picked Karen and piled the evidence up. The tail light was broken, yes, but not in 30 pieces lol.
Any time you have to say don't tell anyone, you shouldn't be sharing it in the first place.
Okay no one is saying anything about this so I will. Why was a potential witness aka (Higgins) EVER allowed to be in the Sally port when Karens vehicle was brought in? He was not a Canton Police officer, he was not A Mass. State trooper, he was an ATF agent and was at a house where a potential Murder happened and yet the biggest piece of evidence brought in and he was allowed and shown on tape being there around Karen Reads vehicle and this jack wagon guest says there was no opportunity to plant evidence!!!! All Procter has to do is take pieces of the tail light Give them to higgins which can't be seen in the doctored video and Higgins give them one of the Mc alberts to be placed in the yard so the sert team can find them.
it's so much to say kinda get sidetracked ...that's all thx for putting it out there...
Why was JOK mother and family laughing when the texts were read?? I believe they think Proctor is amazing and share the same sentiments as he does about KR! They should be disgusted that this investigation of their family member was so poor and tainted.
Finally someone saying what they’ve thought all along. She did kill their son.
@@sarasmilesco8551what? I legitimately can’t understand how anyone who’s actually watching this trial could feel this way??
I honestly dont think they can believe what they are hearing..I think most of us would be in their place, same as you see comments on smiles or smirks from Karen..they know and cant believe what is being pulled and said.
The Judge and Prosecution thought this was going to be an easy win for them, Karen would take a Plea, case done..but instead they got someone smart and feisty, she is wealthy and able to hire top notch lawyers, they really didnt count on that either plus she posted 100,000.00 bond.
@@kristentrep5038 I don’t feel any way. The evidence against her is overwhelming.
@@sarasmilesco8551what evidence against her ? They have not had one piece of evidence that has not been tainted …none ? So what overwhelming evidence convinced you ? The “ I hit him statement “ that they proved was false and never written down , not spoken about through two separate grand juries ? So that’s out. The glass on the bumper that does NOT match any glass connected to the case ? Or the tailight , which is clearly seen unbroken that morning and who every person testified to the fact that it was only cracked ? The dieghton police said ( purposefully ) that it was NOT damaged . So what evidence ?
Whether you think Karen is guilty or not it was unprofessional and biased for that trooper to say what he said about Karen. He needs to be fired along with his supervisor's. The things they said were awful. I hope Karen sues them for defamation. I feel for John's family and I hope they find out the truth. This is unacceptable. The judge needs to be removed bc she is biased as well.
Boston must feel so proud having these police officers running the town
Idk why people are shocked this is exactly how I would expect Boston police to be
They really are. But it doesn’t mean Karen isn’t guilty
Justice for John O’Keefe
💙 🌹 ⚖️ 👮🏻♂️
Really? I think we should all be shocked. Shocked and horrored.
Tyrants are running this town, framing people to protect their own, and everyone is just letting it be that way. And nobody is safe who lives under their power.
And if they can do it, it can happen anywhere.
@@TMxo it’s pretty clear she’s not and this is a cover up.. also pretty clear it’s most likely someone from the family that abruptly sold the dog and house that was in their family for generations. Don’t forget the destroyed evidence and testimonies inconsistent with original interviews
Amen!!! @@Natibebe
@@TMxo the issue is if this is how they conduct investigations, they could easily convict an innocent person in the past or future
Misogyny is endemic in LE.
not endemic but it exists in the world...look at all the anti judge comments laced throughout these conversations
This man is a disgrace to LE!
Your husband ! Ouch 👊 COLIN
That man is a disgrace to humanity
He’s actually a disgrace to humanity
Could be but does that mean she is innocent? Nope..
Is he? LE seem to stand behind him
ALL these people were drinking a lot that night. People do stupid things when they're intoxicated.
So are you saying that Karen is the one that beat him all to hell bit and scratched his arm like a German shepherd I find that hard to believe oh I almost forgot the computer inside the house. How long does it take someone to die in the cold? I guess she ran in there and did that too.
@@charleslaurice anyone who has actually SEEN a dog bite knows those are NOT dog bites: dogs puncture with ALL their teeth, not scratch with just two..
Like bruised knuckles Colin murdered a man ?
Like beat their friend with their nephew and cover it up? Stupid is a tragic understatement!!
@@charleslauriceyeah I hear you but I doubt thats what they meant. The karen read lynchers are much more belligerent and really dull.
90% of all anti-karen comments made since Monday: "Proctor is awful, sure, but in the end he said the texts had no impact on the integrity of the investigation...and Karen said she hit him so she's still a psycho!!!!!"
Colin's attorney and Kevin are doubling down haha
I wish they would find better "insiders"
They dont matter anymore
This case is a perfect example on how twisted America and it’s justice system is.
exactly
If someone was dying on my front lawn, I would be out there trying to help the police. There is some kind of coverup.
Exactly
That's exactly what I thought. How could they have not woken up with lights, sirens, and yelling to see what was going on?
And Chloe the dog would have reacted to the movement and noise in the front yard … unless of course if she was whisked off during the night to a different location 🤔
Yeah, I think this should be pointed out more often. In what world do you sit inside and not offer assistance when a dead cop is on your lawn? A cop you know well. Sorry, I don't buy it, they sold their house they'd had for 50 years lol, got rid of their dog, their phones, I'm sorry, if I'm on that jury I can't find Karen guilty and I'd start wondering who had an actual motive.
@@kristijones2334 he did wake up, he said "tell Karen to stop screaming she'll wake the entire neighborhood up." dude is obviously involved lol.
Why the couldn’t have called in for tents to prevent further snowfall on the scene and gathered up some heat lamps to melt the snow at the scene… we’ll never know.
What do you mean we never know there’s a good reason. They didn’t do that because it was they didn’t want that to happen because this is a cover-up dingdong.
They could but purposely didn’t that’s the whole point of this trial
IKR?!!! So much room for speculation, and unless someone comes forward with the truth of what really happened, I don’t think we will ever know and John O’Keefe will never get the justice he deserves. Sad case all around.
There really wasnt that much snow when John was put out there his back was on grass, there was even debris in the glass..isnt that just hilarious now, setting him up with a glass..they forgot to put the 3L of blood with him that was in the basement..poor John..he so suffered and on top of it also convulsing most likely from the head injuries as to why he had vomit..sure hope Defense has better witnesses than what we have seen, he deserves the best justice there can be had, another thing when there is snow, go to an auto wreckers and get pieces of red and clear taillight glass throw it on the snow..it doesnt sink, you see it that quick also..they had to go back so many times to place the glass, their bigger mistake that taillight would never break up like that in this lifetime.. SG Barros was the only truth so far cracked taillight with small missing piece..
@user-jq1so5vd2iwith everything the witnesses have said, and with all the evidence that has been presented, I agree.
Karen Reed's tail light looks fine when she backed into the victim's car in his driveway, completely red, to the point where it looks like it's not even broken, supposedly she was to have hit him already and it was broken..... that's clearly not the case ! so who put the tail light pieces next to the body ?
"Looked" fine from a few second video which didn't really give a good view of the tail light
I agree when Karen hit John's suv the tail light looked fine they definitely planted evidence!!! FREE KAREN !!!!
when KR hit victims car was not where he was hit and died, two different locations
Add to that the initial witness statements of Karen Read, Jennifer McCabe, and Kerry Roberts, wherein they described the light as "cracked". Also the testimony of Officer Nicholas Barros that the light was "not completely damaged. It was cracked." and "A piece was missing, but not completely damaged.", when he saw it on the morning of January 29th, at Karen Read's parents' home. And the ring videos from KR's parents' home and JO's driveway, which show the light mainly intact, despite the prosecution saying otherwise. (The sally port video even confirms that an intact taillights may appear to be broken, since people assumed that they were looking at the damaged light before it was revealed that the video was inverted.)
She hit O'Keefe's car in the driveway after he was supposedly hit already when she was heading out to look for him, that tail light is all solid red as if it's not broken
This so called cop is an absolute disgrace. He's not fit to polish Karen read's shoes. I wouldn't employ him to collect trolleys in a supermarket
After watching the Daybell trial and how professional and competent those investigators seemed to be, I wouldn’t ever be able to convict Karen Read
There will be no justice for John O'Keefe because of how poorly the Canton PD and MSP handled this investigation. There really is no good excuse for not documenting the scene on arrival with digital photography, video and simply taking measurements. Of course, the most important step is to protect and preserve life. The same goes with documenting the so-called murder weapon (Karen Read's car). And to leave the crime scene / accident scene unattended for even a minute before all evidence was collected is inexcusable. As for the snow and the dark, they should have been better prepared with generators and tents so they could shelter the area from falling snow and light up the scene. None of it makes sense. It's very hard to believe that there was some kind of conspiracy, but it is even harder to believe that two police agencies were so inept in handling the investigation. There is reasonable doubt.
I agree with 90%, but they definitely conspired to coverup the death of John. Way too many "oops" to believe its just incompetence.
My heart goes out to the family of John. To the niece and nephew I’m so sorry that life has been so cruel. Sending you all my love and deepest sympathies 🖤
These two dudes at the bottom are crazy 🤦🏽♂️
Most cops are like this honestly. Vile.
Disturbing and inappropriate texts, indeed! However, he is not alone; he is simply the one who got caught and is exposed, imo. The culture within law enforcement and the media often fuels intense outrage over a cop killer, a response not typically seen in other cases involving the murder of civilians. He acted on those emotions. Unfortunately, texts like these are not uncommon among LE officials of varying ranks. Remember, his supervisors had no qualms about the messages and were playing along. This issue exists in other walks of life too, but there they are not public servants involved in a murder investigation. Anyway, as repugnant as those messages are, they don't necessarily prove the conspiracy theory portrayed by the defense.
What about Allison Albert said John was there, when everyone said he wasn’t?
@@fredvp Was Allison Albert's statement discussed during his testimony? Sorry if I missed it. My point is that his testimony alone doesn't prove the whole defense theory.
@fredvp Do you know if the defense tested for Colin Albert's DNA on the officer or any unrelated DNA (excluding first responders and doctors)? I'm curious coz if Colin Albert punched Officer O’Keefe hard enough to bruise him or cause bloody knuckles, his DNA would likely be transferred. This could be decisive evidence either way, IMO.
@@genomic_ I don’t know. I don’t know if defense will bring this up.?
I Wonder what that yellow cottage guy is smoking? Must be the 'good stuff'. Sheesh
Like dope?
mushrooms :)
These guys are insane. How in the hell can you think that she did that much damage to him with her car going 25-30 mph? In the snow? She wouldn’t even be able to get any traction in the snow to gain that much speed in the first place? My brother was hit by a car going 30-35 mph and he was 12. He got messed up with some whiplash and crapes and bruises on his head but he came out just fine. And he was 12…. My gosh I just don’t see how this is possible.
I've been saying this since day 1. no way that the taillight would have broken and shattered into many pieces in a 30-foot-long driveway. And remember, it was a Lexus, very well built vehicle.
Please stop having this Yellow tales guy on. It's one thing to THINK she might be guilty but this guy is just as biased as Proctor. To sit there and say it doesn't change the evidence....you Immediately Lose every ounce credibility. It's literally ridiculous not to mention gross.
Exactly!! Like what evidence is he even referring to? I have seen and heard zero evidence he's referring to.
A True Crime story! The horror that exists within that police dept and extends to prosecuters.
I seriously believe this was an accident and blown way out of proportion…
It was not an accident. Don’t forget the computer inside the house looking to see how long it would take someone to die in the cold. Don’t forget the bite and the scratch marks from a German Shepherd. It mysteriously disappeared the next day. Don’t forget the FBI description the car did not kill him. Come on people.
I believe it could very well be an accident. I highly doubt they intended to kill him. I think there was a fight and he landed wrong hitting his head or was struck on the back of his head.
A car hitting him in the back of the head and only having a broken tail light isn’t even in question anymore. 🥱
@@charleslaurice you guys believe dogs bite with just two teeth? and their teeth don't scratch, they puncture and don't let go. I've seen enough dog injuries to know they use ALL their teeth and they go down into the flesh.
@@charleslauricedon't care underetbite freak woman
They were play wrestling at the bar they could have done it in the basement and the dog reacted attacked him he hit the dog the dogs owner attacked so he leaves after the ass whooping lays is the snow falls asleep and dies is my theory
MOTIVE? In spite of mistakes, relationships, abhorrent language, where is the WHY, REASON MOTIVE ?????
All these cops drinking and driving. And some of their relatives doing the same. What a bunch of hypocrite’s clowns.
Also scary knowing how rogue & rotten the whole PD is. They would set up anyone to cover up for their buddies. They are biased to the core in this case. That woman should not be the one in trail. They are. One of them or more killed that man.
Cottage Tales dude is out to lunch.
he's the only one who makes any sense
Exactly.
YES!! HE GIVES the prosecution a pass for everything. Their number one supporter in my opinion.@marcpost4034
He’s at the all you can lick boot buffet
He lives in his Mom's basement ffs.
You know what I think is absolutely wild?
I think it is possible that something happened and the Albert’s were planning on just getting everyone to say he never came in and it was gonna be a mystery. But the cop came in and was like “it was Karen obviously.” And they were like “oh yeah! Absolutely.” I’ll bet they were tickled pink when Proctor decided to plant evidence.
If your not from Boston and experienced blizzard like conditions, then you would not understand how hard it must have been to gather evidence at the scene. Most people aren't walking around outside or disturbing the crime scene. They attempted to put police tape up, and it kept blowing off. It did warm up significantly compared to the 18 degrees, winds and snow of that day and snow and ice melted.
In this conditions, it must have been very hard to get rid of the body. This was why they trashed him at their lawn
WHY do they continue to put the YCT’s guy inn NIGHT after NIGHT? 🤦🏼♀️ This is LITERALLY the best they can find? He’s a joke and not ONE real law tuber will have anything to do with him. Even Vinnie is finding it hard to not to see the truth- which in the beginning he was trying to stay neutral. I respect the fact that he is at least considering ALL of the evidence and calling out the lack of a TRUE investigation. OJO was clearly an upstanding man and police officer. This sham of an investigation is not what real justice looks like.
He's just a troll looking for views. I left a comment on one of his videos mentioning how it's literally impossible to be that delusional.
@@pistolpete8231 - YES- a TOTAL Troll! I wouldn’t even put the full name of his channel in my comment. 😜 I don’f want to encourage ONE click! 🤣
Yes. A troll. And accuses successful UA-camrs of being grifters! They can't get anyone else bc these REAL lawyers see what a ridiculous case it is. They would never advocate for the prosecution and look the fool. He's IT.
There's a reason YCT is hardly getting any views on his coverage vs other people who are neutral or pro KR. And that is because the overwhelming majority of people don't think she did it.
I don’t know anything about the guy, but I can’t even look at him when he comes on screen, something about him doesn’t sit well with me. And tonight solidified that for me - IMO he minimized Proctor’s comments, and he seems to have to out for KR. Idk, he grosses me out & I have also been wondering why they keep bringing him back.
So perfectly put together, not gonna lie, I teared up😢 @COURTTV
Why not come to the scene where the victim was found and melt the snow so they could see what was under it? I think the cop planted it, but juries tend to believe law enforcement.
What I want to know is if this was a violent crime against officer O’Keefe would the evidence gathering still be the same?! If there were bullet casings or potentially a murder weapon, would the evidence gathering be this nonchalant? Or would they be using brushes and pans like archeologists? I mean come on. There’s so much wrong with the evidence gathering in this case that I’m concerned about their crime scene investigation procedures!!
When That woman is angry, she's dangerous
Wow, Have you had an encounter with her?😂
She looks like a demon
I wish everybody would be able to have lawyers like Karen's. It is a delight to watch and listen to them in the courtroom. This level of preparation and skill is rare.
57 witnesses😮
what is this, a *HENIZ* 57
commercial...😂
@ Vinnie... taillight pieces were found b4 Proctor ever got on the scene AND Karen's car was secured long b4 there was any controversy about what happened. No reason to tamper with the car at that hour.
ALSO, FBI has deemed there was no conspiracy in this case. They are investigating Proctor independently.
Karen the tornado. She is not human or even close
If it was not a conspiracy, how do you explain Proctors statement regarding Brian Albert,don't worry about him he is BP . He is talking to everyone. Hmmmm🤔
Yeah, if I'm a juror, I'm thinking, if a dead cop is found on my lawn, is my house not getting searched? Lol, that is just insanity.
Which means intentionally ignored evidence.
Feb nights stayed well below freezing. The highs reached were only above freezing for few hours at best. So as it melts, it completely refreezes EVERY night. No snow blower is blowing chunks of ice. Those plastic pieces buried 2 ft down would not be just sitting on top of snow. Remember when she “hit” him the ground was barely covered. That means those pieces are 2 ft below frozen blocks of white ice
I wish the defense would bring on a Physicist to tell people that a 30-foot-long driveway packed in snow cannot create enough momentum for an SUV to SHATTER a brake light housing. Lexus's are built strong, not cheap hardware on them.
Do any of these people know what a hit and run looks like? It’s not glitters of red. It’s a dent.
it's the pieces of the taillight for me, in the snow they could find the tiny pieces BUT it took 8 days to come up with those giant pieces ? I don't think so, too much doubt in this case to send Read to prison for years
22 days wasted talking about snow, Aruba, and tail light! Bring in the M.E. and forensic data experts already
And a physicist who can tell everyone that a vehicle traveling in packed snow on a 30-foot-long driveway cannot get enough momentum to shatter (into many pieces) a tail light lens in a well built Lexus SUV
Everybody forgets that when those cringy text messages were read out loud from Karen pursuing Higgins, that John's family had to be subjected to her talking about his family no being there, not caring, etc. Also kissing higgins in John's home! Karen was the one that drank too much and drove John to the home. She could not remember where she left him and he was found the next morning. The locker room banter that Proctor did with his co workers is common although not right, but they do. Same applies for Karen's reputation about her texts.
That’s a really long way to tell everyone you’re a moron
Oh ew your that lady who has a hate boner for Karen
That still doesn’t make her a killer. John O’Keefe also said some nasty things about Karen. Does that make him a murderer?
This is a really long way to tell everyone you’re a m0r0n
@@Por2ugal I understand that, but it should have been a simple case. She was the last one with John, drove him to the location at Fairview, her tail light was broken, and she had been drinking and could not remember a few hours later after leaving John there that she left him there. Too many people are Pro Karen from 2 years ago before any trial began or hearing from witnesses and evidence. She had a fight with him before dropping him off. If John was beat up why wouldn't intelligent cops just claim self defense and that is why John died, but Karen's vehicle is involved and that is why it is not clear cut. She also lawyered up once at her father's house in Dighton. Tail light already broken there.
Praying for justice for John O'Keefe.
Too much alcohol and zero integrity or trustability for the Canton PD.
Case dismissed....
The dayton cop testified the tail light was only cracked with a small piece missing....
John’s friend’s statements are heart wrenching. 😢
Looking forward to having Melanie Little or Emily on Closing Arguments tomorrow night. 🤷♀️🏋️♂️. Thanks, Vinnie. You’re the best.
Disgraceful man! Who is going to trust the police after this behaviour?
Nobody trust them anyway
I love Joseph. I get what he’s saying completely. Thank god he didn’t brush those texts under the rug or minimize them unlike KEVIN.
I smell a cover up.
👇 she's getting more and more excited as the trial goes on, you can see it on her face, knowing that she's getting away with murder.
What drugs are you on . Crazy thinking, maybe it's the booze
Alcohol is a big factor
A whole BUNCH of other stuff😂😂😂
When evidence is found at a location, I thought measurements and pictures of evidence is recorded at the scene
The brother struggles with the trauma of losing his sibs. I can’t fathom with all that this family has endured. 🙏to him and his family
I'd find a drunk driving off duty cop operating a snow plow a lot more believable. Reasonable doubt.
Yeah, plus he was flirting with Karen, and mad that she ignored him at the bar. All these people were drunk, Karen's light could definitely have been cracked at Johns house when she hit his car.
Yeah, and there's too many inconsistencies in testimonies about his Jeep being out front and at what time frame. The tan Ford edge out front around 2:30 according to the snow plow driver is still a mystery too.
@@RonTDB The lack of home cam footage is beyond ridiculous! Deputy Police Chief Keleher right across at 31 Fairview. Amazing and sad all at the same time.
No matter how hateable Proctor is, that isn’t evidence. And somewhat sloppy police work, but consider the circumstances. She did it…there is evidence THERE…not “look over here the cops are dirty”
Proctor so awful! I'm ashamed of Massachusetts state police....
Thanks for giving our state a bad name! Awful how he spoke about Karen read
But the tail light was still RED in the ring camera? ,but the tail light would be a white light if the all those pieces fell off?.
Nick 👏🏻🔥
Why is the comment from the police officer saying " The trail light had a crack, with one piece missing, not alot of damage" being ignored
There is SO much wrong with this case, that happened not far from where I was born. One of my childhood friends, who is also a retired physician; still lives in our little neighborhood, in the home she grew up in. She is on the “this case should never have gone to trial”, despite knowing many in Law enforcement, specifically the State police. One thing I’m not hearing-yet. Proctor said Monday that there was 2 FEET of snow. As my friend said, go look at some of the video taken that morning O’Keefe was found. At the MOST there was 5-6 inches; which Lissie says was gone by later that day. There was NO excuse for not securing the crime scene, nor sending those horrible texts. First, my heart goes out to the O’Keefe family, even if Read was guilty; this case was so screwed up, I highly doubt there will be a conviction.
On another note; how and why is this scumbag, an embarrassment to law enforcement, still an investigator.
And here I thought the Good-ole-boys network was only thriving in the South. Shameful.
Why did the police not interview each person at the police station so they could film it for later
the Trooper took a picture of the Car in the driveway she hit... BUT... the picture does NOT show where she ACTUALLY hit the car.... around the License Plate area and NOT the 'corner' of the car as he said. 👍
i think he is Framing Her or he is just a shitty investigator... the video CLEARLY shows her contacting the other car around the License Plate area.... how can you NOT see that?
Why don’t you mention the txt about the homeowner had nothing to worry about because he was a Boston PD. That kind of shows lack of investigation.
There needs to be Justice for John O'Keefe mama and John O'Keefe's family, but it's specially there needs to be Justice for John O'Keefe's niece and nephew whom both parents of John O'Keefe's niece and nephew passed away, and because John O'Keefe's sister and brother-in-law who passed away, John O'Keefe adopted his niece and nephew he took on the responsibilities of raising his niece and nephew, because they needed to know that regardless of their parents death, but someone does care and love them. If there is no justice for John O'Keefe, and John O'Keefe's family, it will be a tragedy, especially for these precious niece and nephew of John O'Keefe it is disgusting that people will travel from state to state or from country to Country to sit outside of the courthouse to support Karen Reed, and whom does not even know her not at all. Regardless whether Karen Reed is found guilty or if she should be exonerated, but still, because of her toxic camper, and because of her lack of accepting John O'Keefe's niece and nephew, and the reason may be that these kids are spoiled, but given the fact that John O'Keefe's niece and nephew no longer have their parents in their lives, because they both died, John O'Keefe stood up like a generous man, and he adopted his sister and brother lost children, and John O'Keefe should be applauded for his generous kind heart, and the love that he just played towards his niece, and the love that he displayed towards his niece and nephew. It is none of Karen Reid's business karma in the first place, John O'Keefe's niece and nephew whether or not John O'Keefe, and John O'Keefe's family spoiled these precious kids, she had a relationship with John O'Keefe, in fact, she had moved into John O'Keefe's home, but she may have tried to try to behave as a stepmom or a authoritative figure of John O'Keefe's niece and nephew, but it was none of her business, and still, if John O'Keefe were still alive today, it's still will not be Karen Reed's business to stick her nose into other people's business. John O'Keefe was working tirelessly hard to dismiss his relationship from Karen Reed, to break up with her, and maybe the reason reason that John O'Keefe wanted to break up with Karen Reed, was how she was behaving herself, and the lack of respect for John O'Keefe's niece and nephew. Anytime one enters into another person's home, and family, as Karen Reed moved into John O'Keefe's home, and after she and John O'Keefe pursued each other, but also, Karen Reed walked into John O'Keefe's families lives as well. Maybe John O'Keefe's family did not approve of Karen Reed, especially since Karen Reed has a toxic temper, and because of her toxic temperament, John O'Keefe properly experience the emotional abuse, which was inflicted up on him by Karen Reid. After all, John O'Keefe's niece and nephew testified in the Karen Reed trial in regards to Karen Reed's temper, and her outburst towards John O'Keefe. John O'Keefe's niece and nephew, especially have been torn apart, because they both lost their parents due to their deaths, and now, they both have lost their uncle who adopted them. John O'Keefe's niece and nephew are still young, but they must be very mature who have been able talk to face Karen Reed play, as they took to the witness stand, and testified in regards to Karen Reed's temper, and the arguments did she had with their uncle. If John O'Keefe was guilty of losing his temper, it would only be to put Karen Reed in her place, because of his niece and nephew, that they did not need to experience the drama of Karen read.. I do not believe that there is a cover-up even if Karen Reed accidentally hit John O'Keefe with her SUV, but she chose the perfect opportunity to accidentally hit John O'Keefe, and she chose the very opportunity that as she and John O'Keefe were invited to a party over at John O'Keefe's co-workers house, and maybe she chose that opportunity opportunity that she could argue in court that it was a cover-up. Well, in respect to John O'Keefe's co-workers whom he worked with, they would have never covered up a crime, not like this, especially a cover of a decorated police officer.. Karen Reed has a delusional mind. If she was capable, even if it was accidental did she hit John O'Keefe, she still has a toxic temper, and there is always a next time that she might pursue another relationship with another guy, and maybe the next time the next guy will experience the same conclusion or if not, the next man will experience Karen Reed's toxic temperament, and then, as everyone looks back to the death of John O'Keefe, even though it may be too late to turn the clock back, but it will prove to everyone did John O'Keefe's death was not an accident, that Karen Reed intentionally murdered John O'Keefe. If the next guy that Karen Reed pursues a relationship with, that maybe he suffers physical abuse caused by Karen Reed, and if the next guy should press charges, let's just say, and the charges become a criminal action suit, and charges are brought against Karen Reed, the next prosecutor will be able to subpoena Karen Reed's previous records in regards to the death of John O'Keefe because the next prosecutor will want to show a pattern of Karen Reed's toxic temperament, and her capabilities to abuse in other people.
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What I find interesting that has not been mentioned is that this detective has never met Karen Read. He doesn’t know her. Still he bashes her based on what??
Based on the fact that she killed a police officer
Based on what the Albert’s and the McCabes fed him. He knew them or about them through others. He really should have declared a conflict and handed the investigation to another trooper.
He met her. Interviewed her. Towed her car. When they arrested her, he talked to her then. Afterward, her lawyers say he framed her. His family was harassed.
I hope the jurors can see he is full of BS.
So Massachusetts. TACKY! They are all kind of crooked. This is America 2024. Yikes.
Not yikes..Joey luvs this..mungh
They were searching an hour after Karen read left her driveway at which time trooper Procter said “ you should be able to see red pieces easily against that snow …..they had five people out there then who missed those giant chunks of red on snow that the trooper insisted they should be able to see it on
WHO IS GOING TO EXPLAIN THE WOUNDS TO HIS RIGHT ARM?
Exactly!
@@SarinaSazi TY...
they keep minimizing the the *lacerations* & clear as day
*puncture* wounds also.
saying: abrasions
as type of wounds, *NO*
surface skin
~vs~
cuts, scratches, punctures, pooling of blood, breaks in the skin & flesh🤦♀️
(are you watching it right, now? defense atty tearing proctor a new azz)
he seems like he ready cry or break & tell everything...
*KARMA*
Yellow cottage incel will explain them
@@1e2b9- rotf~lmbo...
he's talking right now on Vinnie 8:47est.
proctor will not go down, alone...
it's either,
proctor wasn't in on actual cover~up but being a loyalist.
(but also nefarious in his action)
or he was part of it... I think everyone what's playing him & his sister like marionettes. leading him on.
But I always said she was innocent not not guilty but innocent. It does not take 57 Heinz Witnesses, to prove she is guilty but 57 heinz Witnesses she is innocent
@@moralfortitude...2217 OH yeah! I am watching!
I’m glad attorney Joseph came around and seen the light. What is he think about the DIGHTON police officer stating that the only thing that was broken on that tail light was one piece one piece what is he think about after the car was in the sallyport all of a sudden is 45 pieces now.
Thank you so much for this Sir. That finally use logic and rule for this.. so there you have.!!
Learn sentence structure..PLEASE
@tonystevenson26 English is my 2nd language, and I'm not using it. It has an excuse at all, but I can write for you, and Spanish is that that will help you to understand better.
@@Hbird12 uh, dunno bug's 😐
Plead the 3rd, plead the 3rd. While they're figuring that out plead the 5th!😮❤❤❤
I don't believe dog bites would line up so perfectly on an arm. Those marks look like cuts from a grated object of some sort. Does the undercarriage of the suv have protrusions of steel that line up?
If they do a full day on a Monday I will go…
It’s my only day off 💙
I’d love to show my support for the O’Keefes
Tail light could never I’m a million years cause John’s two black eyes and dog nail scratches on his arm
I think this is the most important evidence. His injuries are simply not possible by being hit by her car. His face is beat to hell, punctures in his arm, but not a single broken bone or bruise below his neck. If you get hit by an SUV, you're going to have some bruises or broken bones in your ribs, or legs or hips, something.
And no blood on the plastic or car and how did the glass get in the boot?
Here's a fundamental ... Sgt Nick Barros.
then there's a flipped vid... manipulated timestamps... and everyone loses their phones... and Allie said he was there.
Cut the guy some slack. He’s not on trial here Karen is she’s the one that backed into John but they’re making it seem like Michael’s the guilty one because he said some nasty things about her. Let’s not forget who ranover who.
Thanks Vinnie for reminding me about this humble working class family. ❤🙏 May God bless them allxx
Don't forget, talking about Karen Read being "cold as Ice", what about the people who have, maybe not intentionally killed him by those in the house, but they then made the decision to cover up their own crime by attempting to frame Karen Read. Were I to be a juror (a 12yr military veteran, raised in a military/law enforcement family) just could never find her guilty after so much lying, so many inconsistencies, so much bad behavior and choices regarding their phones (we can only assume by timing and people involved) this was intentionally destroying evidence, the failure to secure the crime area, failure to fully investigate all the people involved, the misleading and deluded video, and now a prejudice lead investigator. There is more going on here than reasonable doubt!! To me, had they turned over the phones, had the house been investigated, we would, most likely, have the answers we're looking for, without all the lies and failures by investigators.
this case is becoming a Joke. crooked cops.. corruption oozing out all over the place. where the judge stands is iffy..
...and Santa flies around the world: doesn't make him a plane. You're in the military, not LE. Those of us that are/have been know better.
I’m here to tell you that Karen did not beat the hell out of him nor bought him or scratch the hell out of his arm like a German Shepherd did your logic is absurd
Thank you. A little logic and common sense combined with some critical thinking can only lead to this conclusion. No possible way for all these coincidences. And I am in complete agreement that it was not intentional, thus the messy cover-up. But yes, the decision to let him die was to save themselves from any consequences. I appreciate your well-expressed opinion and thank you for your service! ❤
I can't believe that John's own brother could be in cahoots with this bunch of conspirators. Unless the murderers are threatening his life and career
before, during, or after the afterparty❓❓❓
Circle swinger jerks ?
35:15 wait til we hear the voicemails feom read to john after she allegedly hit him
This sounds cold but karen never wanted kids and didnt even say bye to the kids
Joseph F Krowski, protector of the Alberts, McCabes, CPD, MSP and Norfolk District Attorney Office. When the Feds take over I hope Joseph F Krowski keeps the same energy…
so ,the house was sold , and the dog was rehomed , all that ,and how about the butt dial , i have a password on my phone and its hard to butt dial my code , something is wrong here
That cop said Karen read got no ass