Oh, with all those ytubers uploading toa runs no hit I thought I have some ultra skill issue. Seeing how you took some hits and still cleared fills me with hope 😅. That aside, great run! Middle tower needs some insane dmg
funnily enough, I was wondering the same thing watching others thinking if i had ultra skill issue until a few days ago. turns out the difference between 2 and 3 stars is all about practice and learning how to rotate
Because both string master and yinlin is really strong so people who pull yinlin gonna pull for sting master, that aside pulling weapon on this game is super worth it because its guaranteed and as far as the game goes most off them are good stat stick like emperor of genesis string master and jinshi/jiyan weapon
Nice one A tip to increase your havoc rover even further after activating core passive and starting your combo if you charge attack instantly after u also do a follow up attack core passive and combo 3 and 4 of the attack sequence will be added after. the charged attack and follow up attack are replaced for basic attack combo 1 and 2 but have way higher modifiers. its 20% more dps for the basic attacks same animation time
Yoooo, your video pushed me to try for the last star as your setup is literally the same as me with very similar cr cd ratio with the only major difference is Im using Moonlight Sonata on Yinlin, and I finally get the 30th star after I run it back, LETSGO
dunno how any f2p is getting these 5 stars weaps for everyone without being extremely lucky. im completely f2p only have one emerald for MC. Also pulled yinlin and there was no way i could get stringmaster.
@@greyera01 For Yinlin's banner, I find this extremely hard to believe with all of the compensation that Kuro had given. I had enough for Yinlin who pulled almost at hard pity and plenty leftover for a Stringmaster, again almost at hard pity. They both pulled between 60-80 ish. My guess is that potentially we missed the pulls you can buy from the store and possibly spent some on standard banner or standard weapon banner? But yeah, as a completely f2p myself, I did not run into issues of premium currency. I guess one other variable could be not playing from launch, so that could be a decent chunk that wasn't available to you.
I think he pulled more for weapons than characters. I should've done this on standard banner instead of trying to get Jianxin lol - but I now have S2 Calcharo so not too shabby I skipped Yinlin to get her weapon for Encore and I've only got 1 other 5* standard broadblade but am about to get Jinshi's So it's doable, you just have to prioritize weapons
@@AltruisticShine im jus unlucky af, lol. i didnt get yinlin until like 110 pulls and the rest went into the weap only got to 50ish. played from the start as well.
My biggest regret is not going for Stringmaster. So far, every video I've watched of Encore clearing the hardest content is with Stringmaster. Do you think it's possible to do it with the standard 5* or is it a hopeless pursuit? lol
Maybe but it would be rare. Weapons are just so valuable in this game. Not only are they cheaper to acquire, but they can be shared across teams and save a ton of resources by not needing to level worse weapons. Even as a f2p I will save up for them
Stringmaster specifically HAS A TON OF VALUE. 32% cr at lvl 80 helps so much in getting a good crit ratio. Compare that with other crit sig weapon like jinsi’s 22% cr at 80 or EoG also at 22%. Definitely a game changer
It's nutty to see the difference in echo roll rng. I am UL55 day1 player as well and min maxed my echo resources so meticuously, but got not a single set of my main dps to those levels of crit ratios, not even talking about the extras like that crazy rolled moonlit set. I also lost 165+35 pulls on yinlin/sig banner and neither got her or her weapon, which every ToA up to now so heavily incentivized. I made it to 24/30 after quite some hours of retrying and 30/30 seems absolutely impossible for now without yinlin or jinhsi (hate her, won't pull her).
You definitely did not min max your echoes at all. The echoes this guy has for his yinlin, rover, and encore is only at 232-234cv once you remove the 5* weapon crit. That's almost as low as it can go. How on earth have you been "minmaxing" so badly that you cant even get that minimum? What have you been doing? The real way to minmax echoes is to only raise them to +10 or +15 (depending on overworld farming frequency), and if they do not roll a crit, discard immediately. Only raise echoes that already have a crit roll to +25. I have a 270cv, 250cv, and 230cv full 43311 sets already.
@@kuratse205 the techniques for echoes are well known and I optimised by going with 10-15 leveling and even incorporating the echomancy rng manip table by now. It's called rng my bro, my echo inventory is it max capacity for weeks now (2k) and I rolled hundreds of 3 costs alone, not talking about 4 and 1 costs. You can get easily shafted with no deterministic way of rolling and pure rng. If you got lucky like that, more power to you, feel happy about it.
@@dshearwfYou definitely havent rolled "hundreds of 3costs" and do not have 2 double crits. That's statistically impossible. 4costs are the easiest to farm, so all your characters should have a minimum of 30cv from 4cost substats. Include the crit main stat and you have a base of 134cv MINIMUM. To gain 230cv, you only need 96cv from substats or 24cv per echo. That's literally below double crit minimum. You even said that the moonlit set in the video had incredible rolls, but it's literally the worst of the 4 sets in the video, at 210cv. You are just unable to count.
@@kuratse205 there is no statistically impossible. If I roll a dice with 1% chance, I am not guaranteed anything at all after 100 rolls. that is basic math. there is no pity system, there is no guarantees nor any deterministic way to target a substat. The same way you got exceedingly lucky with your rolls, the next person can get exceedingly unlucky and maybe the dude in the video hit it right in the middle with his overall rng. And I didn't count anything here, when I say I got barely a handful of double crit echoes across my sets, it's literally that. And all of them are the min 6/11 rolls. Some of them also have only hp and def, no %atk nothing. Look at my havoc mc with 74/240 and 1550 atk. Across all pieces there is not a single flat or %atk roll going along with the crit rolls. The pitfalls of rng with systems like these are as deep as it can get and again, in a pure rng system you can't expect any result within any given timeframe.
@@dshearwf blud your Hrover has higher cv than them. That's 240cv without weapon right there (I'm assuming you have the 5* standard sword). How about you list your echo sets, then I'll count them for you since you cant count? It takes on average, about 8-9 echoes at +15 with crit rolling to +25 to get a double crit. You said "hundreds of 3 costs", which is a minimum of 200. That's 22 double crit 3costs ON AVERAGE. Yet you dont have 2? Literally statistically impossible. And especially so with how rng number is NOT probability, and is guaranteed to win at a certain point. Also, min cv roll is 12.6. Average cv roll is 13.8 or 15 (almost even probability split). High cv roll is 18-21 (very low chance). Not 6/11, but 6.3/12.6.
Congrats! I kinda suck at the game and I'm at 24 stars but have not obtained the 5* star yet so I only have access to one 5* weapon atm. Also got Calcharo instead of Encore which is a burden really as he does not perform at the level of Encore. Probably won't get closer to 30 stars without getting the 5* sword from the voucher and finally building havoc rover as well. Mine is semi useless at the moment. Also still haven't 12 starred the left tower since the first wave of floor 4 is so annoying to clear with the three mobs prior to Mourning Aix. I'm using a Calcharo team in the tower and he simply does not cut it (no grouping and sub-par DPS).
Dude I am paying for BP but still almost out of resource and can't full star clear ToA 😂 I am really confused on who and what to build. Pour so much resource on Calcharo but he doesn't perform for last floor. Pull Jinshi but still can't have full star hazard tower even I lvl 8 her forte circuit & unlock her crit passive. Idk should I unlock the atk passive or lvl up her other talent from lv 6 to 8?
I think i need to get my characters to level 80 level. 70 and level 60 weapon couldn't get 3 star, max i got do is 2 star for the Electro Tower level 3. The Spectro and Aero Tower is breeze.
To be honest i cannot 30 star this tower solely because of my mistake in choosing what character i build. I already have well built yinlin but still i chase on calcharo set too cuz he just badass and i slept on my encore. I guess i just have to take it slow
nah I will just give changli her own team, maybe with yinlin. the idea is to swap encores gear and 5 star swords between characters to save resources. so yinlin is ideal as her gear is seperate.
@@jamiekb9v That way both Yunlin and Changli outros are useless XDD. Probably devs idea is she to be on moonlit. I hope Scar to be Fusion gauntlet so I can have mega busted team with Changli :)
@@ixirionoutro doesn’t matter much will probably still be an amazing team for her. Besides I’m prioritising resources atm don’t plan on farming a second fusion set
@@user-cr8vy2hs7o personally having to farm another dps fusion set is a bigger deal than which team does maybe 5% more damage. I think at this stage in wuwa being careful with the resources is more important.
in early game i wasted alot of resources on talents that doesnt do anything, i didnt know better. now im trying to recover from that, i got 21 stars in previous abyss, this time around i got 22 stars but i never attempted the middle floor. i have jinshi and yinlin maxed out with their weapons. encore maxed out but bad echo usable sanhua usable chalcharo verina and baizhi as a support. i need to form a 3rd team and get some better echoes but not sure if i can do it before the end of this season
its okay bro, play however you want, dont even think to rush the game. i was rushing too early when the game came out cuz this game was too addicting. it feels so empty now cuz i almost cleared out all the contents, (its still 1.1)
You can probably get 30/30 this week if you tryhard. Jinhsi Yinlin Verina on the middle tower, Encore Sanhua Baizhi on floor 4 and 1 for both the left and right tower, and Calcharo for floor 3 and 2.
How long did you grind for great stats on your Echoes? and how many days? it would be interesting to know just how much time you were forced to invest in order to get more or less decent stats.
@@shadowthehedgehog1824 maybe 1-2 weeks? I haven’t done echos since reaching UL 50. But the most important thing is knowing when to stop echo farming and be satisfied with the pieces. It’s important to also level to forte levels.
@@jamiekb9v I know but if Echo farming barely gives you what you need such as no Skill resonance damage boost or barely any Crit Rate or Damage it really is exhausting the main focus has to be of course on building the character that's true but the real damage is from Echoes.
i actually realised that u also raised those others talents that only give small atk bonus n attirbute bonus in the resonance chain is that compulsory or not needed n ur build has more crit dm than my builds
I assume you're swapping Sanhua for Changli and just using Emerald sword on her or, given your success with these teams, do still see the value of that upgrade? Like the way you're sharing the 5-star weapons across two competent teams.
I can't seem to get more than 22 stars, my Encore has all her skills on lv 8, 58% crit rate, 255% crit damage, stringmaster, 121 energy regen, yet I see you deal a littile bit more damage than my Encore which is very odd, perhaps that 12% crit rate to 70% could make a difference, still, it's rather dramatic, I fight against Scar in hazard floor tower 1 and I can't kill him with 150 seconds left, not even thinking of 180 seconds. I run her with Sanhua and Verina as well, I have invested a lot of resources in both, I would say our sanhuas are almost the same, I got higher level skills on mine and a bit more crit damage, and my verina is actually full built, every echo upgraded, skills, etc, and I just can't manage to get even 2 stars. Maybe Scar has different deffences, but still, idk.
Been busy so I’ve just been sitting on 18 stars, still haven’t leveled my characters to 80 yet, but I have a feeling the tower is going to be easy when we hit level 90 on our characters if people can 30* with level 80 characters. I can stay alive during the level 90 boss fights, just my dps isn’t there yet and I time out of the fight.
i just honestly wish i lost my 50/50 to anyone but Lingyang (i lost to him both in yinlin and jinhsi banners) bc i literally could NOT get past 25/30 even with all of my best stuff. also im probably playing my calcharo wrong bc i cant clear first tower properly
Calcharo is mid even with the 30% electro boost. I have good stats but can't three star floor 4. Probably a skill issue but it's frustrating. Encore is a much better standard 5* character by comparison.
oh! yangyang just took my sanhua gear (including the glacio damage echos😅 shes level 12 though so not really built otherwise. shes just used as a filler character to help with some grouping
I 30 starred the TOA before but now the current buffs arent that good for my Jiyan. I have yet to build my Calcharo since I am prefarming for Changli and failed my 50/50 for Yinlin. I guess this rotation of TOA wont be a 30 star lmao.
Yinlin stringmaster Sanhua c4 Verina c1 Linyang Encore Baizhi s4 Taoqi s5 with her good 4 star Discord weap Emerald sword Static mist Mortefi s3 Chixia S? Plus, Almost maxed talents for some Where are you getting those resources.. Your Lucky af as f2p😂 Compared to you I only have total of 5, 5star items/characters. My Luck is Wasting 4 star pity rolls on stupid weapon and stupid non meta character
If youre a day 1 player u can easily get yinlin+stringmaster and encore verina and 2 5* standard weapons, even as f2p just bcs how much they compensate us.
This game is like other gacha game, that is resources management and one of it is where to use your gacha currency. He choose to spend on yinlin + stringmaster banner. He actually made very good decision that string master work very well with encore that can be swapped in every TOA runs, he got danjin and taoqi sequences from that banner too. High investment Yinlin an amazing sub DPS that very good for Havoc mc. Than he build havoc MC free strong DPS. His decision is really good for this early stage of game, he already focused on few characters with high investment. I kinda envy of his decision, even though I know that stringmaster is very strong universal weapon but I decided to skip it for jinshi, but it's okay I still having fun with my jinshi now meanwhile my echo resources management was bad that my yinlin build is far from good and my not well build jiyan just forgotten lmao. I'm okay with only 21 stars TOA right now, but after watching this video I need to plan to look after universal limited weapon. But still prioritize fun because with Time when we reached level 90 or above characters build we will be able full stars clear TOA, yeah just missing 100 ish gems every reset 😢
@@darmaone_4911 meta tc doesnt look what they want, is what they need for meta. But fr hes lucky. I lose to that stupid aero bitch on yinlin banner at hard pity.. While only got 1 copy of mortefi Got s3 yuanwu, s4 amber but guns.. On jinhsi i got s6 Yangyang, S0 taoqi While ONLY s3 sanhua only and s2 chixia. Got jinhsi at hard pity.. Got Jinhsi weapon at hard pity again. Got no useable meta characters Encore got her on selector at hard pity. And a bunch of useless 4 star weapons. Verina is free Got free 5 star Sword Thats it.. Stuck at 10 1 12 at TOA I think this game aint for me. If i got lucky it could have been better. Yuanwu sucks even buffed by toa he eats balls.
@@hoangvinh1485 just his luck. yinlin banner.. Lose to aero gal at hard pity.. I scoured the map and only got up to 120 pull.. Didnt have enough gems to go for weapon. Got cope yuanwu + cons, gun amber cons, taoqi + cons , some useless 4 star weapon and ONLY 1 copy of mortefi Got verina for free. Got encore at hard pity. Got 5 star sword for free. Funding for 5 star gun from free gems.. On jinhsi banner. Cope yangyang cons and heck ONLY 1 con for sanhua. Got her weapon.. Again, Just his luck...
a lot of that luck was pretty useless though, like static mist i haven't even leveled cause I don't really use mortefi or any gunner. lingyang also level 1 on the bench never used. I just optimised around a few things that I did roll like rectifier and sword characters, sharing lots of gear. my changli will also share gear with encore and if I get her signature danjin can also use it.
Whitout the intention to offend you seriously, this is the first Tower that I saw being f2p whit skill issue, the other ones were pros. So I'm actually surprise, getting hit, bad rotations. But you still being able to bit it. I'm going to share this to my friends that said you need skill to beat the tower f2p.
last rotation was harder(just ul 50 so not maxed talents) and i think those were the videos you saw. Anyway toa is basically easier than abyss as f2p in both so dont get your hopes up(or down) regarding this content's difficulty
was just wondering but for hmc in terms of crit ratio, is 55/261 better or 74/213? Im pretty sure critting consistantly is more important but seeing ur hmc with a cd dreamless confused me
You generally want to push for a 1:2 ratio after subtracting 100% from cdmg, but if you're strapped for time, cdmg > crate as you can crit fish for the big hits on your ult. Long term you want a cdmg Dreamless for HMC because s6 gives a lot of crit rate already.
when we get s6 havoc rover they will get free 25% crit rate so crit dmg dreamless is the way to go long term. for now my crit rate is a bit low but its useable. most important thing is picking the echos with the most useful substat rolls and my crit dmg echo is almost perfect!
You can comfortably clear at level 80 ngl. So long as you know ur teams rotation and have a decent enough build for ur main dps. Well if ur playing on ur phone, then i understand. It is harder
It’s all about how good ur echos are which affect the damage, nothing to do with F2P or not, everyone could do that if they could have good echos, so one thing u can flex with is only ur luck, not ur skill
Tell that to my friend with s2r1 Jiyan and insane echo stats but still get whooped by mourning aix F4. Game is heavily skill based so even with okayish echoes, if you practice and know how to rotate it works way better than relying on dmg
you can guarantee best echoes by fishing crit for first roll then getting to 25. No ifs, no buts, most efficient strat. luck doesnt exist, learn probability and navigate through your plight
First time hearing the EN version of Encore. And here's my feed. EN Encore sounds like you can bring her to bed without repercussions. She sounds like a legal adult you can fuck with. JP version makes you go straight to jail.
This game is too grindy. In genshin i can lvl up any character in 1 week or less... in this game is impossible. They need to reduce the "Stamina" cost of materials/bosses, at least until we hit UL 60.
There's no way you're full building a genshin character in a week. Just to get the materials to max their weapon can take weeks The difference is that genshin has been around for a long time and so we have a surplus of resources we no longer have to think about, like enhancement crystals, mora, adv exp Early genshin's honestly more grindy than Wuwa bc at least we can guarantee proper main stats
It just feels bad because almost all the content requires more waveplate compared to the resin you use in one domain but WuWa's faster to build characters.
This game is actually not that grindy compared to genshin , we have higher stamina cap and bosses cost 60 because they drop guaranteed 4 drops at high UL with decent amount of echo xp , compared to 2-3 boss drops in genshin, and we get double drops events (like the current one) often You should learn how to spend your resources wisely, don't build a lot of characters at once , I learned this in genshin lol because mid game was actually hell when it came to resources
completed the endgame! (no actually i suck at holograms 😅)
Lol me too am literally skipping holograms. I just don't think am ever gonna do them. I'll just think that they don't exist🥹
Holograms focus on player's skill more than builds 🤷
I'm also still stuck at difficulty 5 on all of them
Its took 5 hours for me to complete monke no6 for 20 asterite 😭
There is a bug for memphis going around in social media. You can try it if you wanna risk your account
There's a bug currently with Memphis Holo boss where you can have him teleport out of his arena and drown. Effectively killing him in 15 secs lmao.
Oh, with all those ytubers uploading toa runs no hit I thought I have some ultra skill issue. Seeing how you took some hits and still cleared fills me with hope 😅. That aside, great run! Middle tower needs some insane dmg
funnily enough, I was wondering the same thing watching others thinking if i had ultra skill issue until a few days ago. turns out the difference between 2 and 3 stars is all about practice and learning how to rotate
Think about it. Why would anyone upload bad/failed attempts unless they're memeing. Atleast that's what I tell myself
HHAHAHAHAHA You got me 🤣
I swear theres not a single encore without stringmaster in any toa
Because both string master and yinlin is really strong so people who pull yinlin gonna pull for sting master, that aside pulling weapon on this game is super worth it because its guaranteed and as far as the game goes most off them are good stat stick like emperor of genesis string master and jinshi/jiyan weapon
@@tasha2749this. Feels amazing to pull on weapon banner and knowing it's gonna be that weapon if pull a 5 star.
5* limited weapons are too useful in this game 😂
i did it with std rectifier 5*
ah not monke though, all else. for monke i used my jinhsi with her ltd. I only have those 2 5* weps so ye
Weapon is also 100% drop
Nice one
A tip to increase your havoc rover even further
after activating core passive and starting your combo
if you charge attack instantly after u also do a follow up attack core passive and combo 3 and 4 of the attack sequence will be added after. the charged attack and follow up attack are replaced for basic attack combo 1 and 2 but have way higher modifiers.
its 20% more dps for the basic attacks
same animation time
This is my motivation now, i'll try to max stars it after finishing my bachelor degree💪
So having insane luck with echo stats, got it.
Watching this confirms my Yinlin 2k skill hits are no where near enough. The rng on echos is real :'(
The dmg was also buffed in toa by like 80%
Thanks to your efforts i was reminded of my early days This game has still tons of potential and will be enjoyable for even a much longer time too.
Yoooo, your video pushed me to try for the last star as your setup is literally the same as me with very similar cr cd ratio with the only major difference is Im using Moonlight Sonata on Yinlin, and I finally get the 30th star after I run it back, LETSGO
nice to hear!
u have the absolute build bro....
no f2p can afford that
dunno how any f2p is getting these 5 stars weaps for everyone without being extremely lucky. im completely f2p only have one emerald for MC. Also pulled yinlin and there was no way i could get stringmaster.
@@greyera01 luck. im pure f2p nad i have 2 sign weapon and 2 free 5 weapon.
@@greyera01 For Yinlin's banner, I find this extremely hard to believe with all of the compensation that Kuro had given. I had enough for Yinlin who pulled almost at hard pity and plenty leftover for a Stringmaster, again almost at hard pity. They both pulled between 60-80 ish.
My guess is that potentially we missed the pulls you can buy from the store and possibly spent some on standard banner or standard weapon banner? But yeah, as a completely f2p myself, I did not run into issues of premium currency.
I guess one other variable could be not playing from launch, so that could be a decent chunk that wasn't available to you.
I think he pulled more for weapons than characters. I should've done this on standard banner instead of trying to get Jianxin lol - but I now have S2 Calcharo so not too shabby
I skipped Yinlin to get her weapon for Encore and I've only got 1 other 5* standard broadblade but am about to get Jinshi's
So it's doable, you just have to prioritize weapons
@@AltruisticShine im jus unlucky af, lol. i didnt get yinlin until like 110 pulls and the rest went into the weap only got to 50ish. played from the start as well.
My biggest regret is not going for Stringmaster. So far, every video I've watched of Encore clearing the hardest content is with Stringmaster. Do you think it's possible to do it with the standard 5* or is it a hopeless pursuit? lol
Current best weapon in the game tbh
The standard weapon is her best weapon , you can definitely clear with it
As for 4* Jinzhou keeper or the BP one are alright alternatives
Maybe but it would be rare. Weapons are just so valuable in this game. Not only are they cheaper to acquire, but they can be shared across teams and save a ton of resources by not needing to level worse weapons. Even as a f2p I will save up for them
Probably need 90 for the standard
Stringmaster specifically HAS A TON OF VALUE. 32% cr at lvl 80 helps so much in getting a good crit ratio. Compare that with other crit sig weapon like jinsi’s 22% cr at 80 or EoG also at 22%. Definitely a game changer
your encore is crazy
The bunch of unbuilt characters really caught me off guard 😅
It's nutty to see the difference in echo roll rng. I am UL55 day1 player as well and min maxed my echo resources so meticuously, but got not a single set of my main dps to those levels of crit ratios, not even talking about the extras like that crazy rolled moonlit set. I also lost 165+35 pulls on yinlin/sig banner and neither got her or her weapon, which every ToA up to now so heavily incentivized. I made it to 24/30 after quite some hours of retrying and 30/30 seems absolutely impossible for now without yinlin or jinhsi (hate her, won't pull her).
You definitely did not min max your echoes at all. The echoes this guy has for his yinlin, rover, and encore is only at 232-234cv once you remove the 5* weapon crit. That's almost as low as it can go. How on earth have you been "minmaxing" so badly that you cant even get that minimum? What have you been doing?
The real way to minmax echoes is to only raise them to +10 or +15 (depending on overworld farming frequency), and if they do not roll a crit, discard immediately. Only raise echoes that already have a crit roll to +25.
I have a 270cv, 250cv, and 230cv full 43311 sets already.
@@kuratse205 the techniques for echoes are well known and I optimised by going with 10-15 leveling and even incorporating the echomancy rng manip table by now. It's called rng my bro, my echo inventory is it max capacity for weeks now (2k) and I rolled hundreds of 3 costs alone, not talking about 4 and 1 costs. You can get easily shafted with no deterministic way of rolling and pure rng. If you got lucky like that, more power to you, feel happy about it.
@@dshearwfYou definitely havent rolled "hundreds of 3costs" and do not have 2 double crits. That's statistically impossible.
4costs are the easiest to farm, so all your characters should have a minimum of 30cv from 4cost substats. Include the crit main stat and you have a base of 134cv MINIMUM. To gain 230cv, you only need 96cv from substats or 24cv per echo. That's literally below double crit minimum.
You even said that the moonlit set in the video had incredible rolls, but it's literally the worst of the 4 sets in the video, at 210cv. You are just unable to count.
@@kuratse205 there is no statistically impossible. If I roll a dice with 1% chance, I am not guaranteed anything at all after 100 rolls. that is basic math. there is no pity system, there is no guarantees nor any deterministic way to target a substat. The same way you got exceedingly lucky with your rolls, the next person can get exceedingly unlucky and maybe the dude in the video hit it right in the middle with his overall rng. And I didn't count anything here, when I say I got barely a handful of double crit echoes across my sets, it's literally that. And all of them are the min 6/11 rolls. Some of them also have only hp and def, no %atk nothing. Look at my havoc mc with 74/240 and 1550 atk. Across all pieces there is not a single flat or %atk roll going along with the crit rolls. The pitfalls of rng with systems like these are as deep as it can get and again, in a pure rng system you can't expect any result within any given timeframe.
@@dshearwf blud your Hrover has higher cv than them. That's 240cv without weapon right there (I'm assuming you have the 5* standard sword). How about you list your echo sets, then I'll count them for you since you cant count?
It takes on average, about 8-9 echoes at +15 with crit rolling to +25 to get a double crit. You said "hundreds of 3 costs", which is a minimum of 200. That's 22 double crit 3costs ON AVERAGE. Yet you dont have 2? Literally statistically impossible. And especially so with how rng number is NOT probability, and is guaranteed to win at a certain point.
Also, min cv roll is 12.6. Average cv roll is 13.8 or 15 (almost even probability split). High cv roll is 18-21 (very low chance). Not 6/11, but 6.3/12.6.
Same team but without 5* weapon i can't have enough damage to clear it :((
My only problem echo exp
I saw someone 3 star the lvl 100 thundering memphis with a solo danjin
Congrats! I kinda suck at the game and I'm at 24 stars but have not obtained the 5* star yet so I only have access to one 5* weapon atm. Also got Calcharo instead of Encore which is a burden really as he does not perform at the level of Encore. Probably won't get closer to 30 stars without getting the 5* sword from the voucher and finally building havoc rover as well. Mine is semi useless at the moment. Also still haven't 12 starred the left tower since the first wave of floor 4 is so annoying to clear with the three mobs prior to Mourning Aix. I'm using a Calcharo team in the tower and he simply does not cut it (no grouping and sub-par DPS).
saving your pulls for changli so based!!
seeing u used taoqi at lv 1 really make me sad :(
So def does matter lol
those exile really took me only few bullet to kill me
Thanks showing build
Dude I am paying for BP but still almost out of resource and can't full star clear ToA 😂
I am really confused on who and what to build. Pour so much resource on Calcharo but he doesn't perform for last floor. Pull Jinshi but still can't have full star hazard tower even I lvl 8 her forte circuit & unlock her crit passive. Idk should I unlock the atk passive or lvl up her other talent from lv 6 to 8?
I think i need to get my characters to level 80 level.
70 and level 60 weapon couldn't get 3 star, max i got do is 2 star for the Electro Tower level 3.
The Spectro and Aero Tower is breeze.
To be honest i cannot 30 star this tower solely because of my mistake in choosing what character i build. I already have well built yinlin but still i chase on calcharo set too cuz he just badass and i slept on my encore. I guess i just have to take it slow
good job!
And I was feeling content with my 21 stars as f2p XD
However Changli may not change much cos she will replace Sanhua in Encore team?
nah I will just give changli her own team, maybe with yinlin. the idea is to swap encores gear and 5 star swords between characters to save resources. so yinlin is ideal as her gear is seperate.
@@jamiekb9v That way both Yunlin and Changli outros are useless XDD. Probably devs idea is she to be on moonlit.
I hope Scar to be Fusion gauntlet so I can have mega busted team with Changli :)
@@ixirionoutro doesn’t matter much will probably still be an amazing team for her. Besides I’m prioritising resources atm don’t plan on farming a second fusion set
@@jamiekb9v pretty sure encore is her best team though. no good argument to remove encore considering you've already put resources into her.
@@user-cr8vy2hs7o personally having to farm another dps fusion set is a bigger deal than which team does maybe 5% more damage. I think at this stage in wuwa being careful with the resources is more important.
in early game i wasted alot of resources on talents that doesnt do anything, i didnt know better. now im trying to recover from that, i got 21 stars in previous abyss, this time around i got 22 stars but i never attempted the middle floor.
i have jinshi and yinlin maxed out with their weapons.
encore maxed out but bad echo
usable sanhua
usable chalcharo
verina and baizhi as a support.
i need to form a 3rd team and get some better echoes but not sure if i can do it before the end of this season
its okay bro, play however you want, dont even think to rush the game.
i was rushing too early when the game came out cuz this game was too addicting. it feels so empty now cuz i almost cleared out all the contents, (its still 1.1)
You can probably get 30/30 this week if you tryhard. Jinhsi Yinlin Verina on the middle tower, Encore Sanhua Baizhi on floor 4 and 1 for both the left and right tower, and Calcharo for floor 3 and 2.
How long did you grind for great stats on your Echoes? and how many days? it would be interesting to know just how much time you were forced to invest in order to get more or less decent stats.
@@shadowthehedgehog1824 maybe 1-2 weeks? I haven’t done echos since reaching UL 50. But the most important thing is knowing when to stop echo farming and be satisfied with the pieces. It’s important to also level to forte levels.
@@jamiekb9v I know but if Echo farming barely gives you what you need such as no Skill resonance damage boost or barely any Crit Rate or Damage it really is exhausting the main focus has to be of course on building the character that's true but the real damage is from Echoes.
With this level of shitty eckos man still pulled it off i am speechless😂😂
Got my 30/30 last week as well(UL49).. Encore is too strong she handled my side towers and Jinhsi destroyed the middle one.
I really have skill issues
i actually realised that u also raised those others talents that only give small atk bonus n attirbute bonus in the resonance chain is that compulsory or not needed n ur build has more crit dm than my builds
its small increases but considering I only have a few characters it was worth it.
@@jamiekb9v i see thanks i might need more investment i guess
I assume you're swapping Sanhua for Changli and just using Emerald sword on her or, given your success with these teams, do still see the value of that upgrade?
Like the way you're sharing the 5-star weapons across two competent teams.
I can't seem to get more than 22 stars, my Encore has all her skills on lv 8, 58% crit rate, 255% crit damage, stringmaster, 121 energy regen, yet I see you deal a littile bit more damage than my Encore which is very odd, perhaps that 12% crit rate to 70% could make a difference, still, it's rather dramatic, I fight against Scar in hazard floor tower 1 and I can't kill him with 150 seconds left, not even thinking of 180 seconds. I run her with Sanhua and Verina as well, I have invested a lot of resources in both, I would say our sanhuas are almost the same, I got higher level skills on mine and a bit more crit damage, and my verina is actually full built, every echo upgraded, skills, etc, and I just can't manage to get even 2 stars. Maybe Scar has different deffences, but still, idk.
Currently am at 27 stars i mean maybe i can do also do 30 but i guess 50 more astirite isn't worth my sanity🗿
this's a scam
Noway this ia a free to play
Been busy so I’ve just been sitting on 18 stars, still haven’t leveled my characters to 80 yet, but I have a feeling the tower is going to be easy when we hit level 90 on our characters if people can 30* with level 80 characters. I can stay alive during the level 90 boss fights, just my dps isn’t there yet and I time out of the fight.
i just honestly wish i lost my 50/50 to anyone but Lingyang (i lost to him both in yinlin and jinhsi banners) bc i literally could NOT get past 25/30 even with all of my best stuff. also im probably playing my calcharo wrong bc i cant clear first tower properly
Calcharo is mid even with the 30% electro boost. I have good stats but can't three star floor 4. Probably a skill issue but it's frustrating. Encore is a much better standard 5* character by comparison.
congrats. the boss on the previous cycle reducing dmg by half was sooo bad
missed showing Yangyang, who I'm pretty sure had the Whiff Whaff echo on right?
oh! yangyang just took my sanhua gear (including the glacio damage echos😅 shes level 12 though so not really built otherwise. shes just used as a filler character to help with some grouping
Has anyone managed to 12 star resonant tower with no electro dps? I got 2 stars on floor 3 and can't even put a dent in floor 4
I 30 starred the TOA before but now the current buffs arent that good for my Jiyan. I have yet to build my Calcharo since I am prefarming for Changli and failed my 50/50 for Yinlin. I guess this rotation of TOA wont be a 30 star lmao.
Damn and have both jiyuan and jinhsi and their sig but barely made 24 stars. Guess thats the problem with being casual with echoes.
Yinlin
stringmaster
Sanhua c4
Verina c1
Linyang
Encore
Baizhi s4
Taoqi s5 with her good 4 star Discord weap
Emerald sword
Static mist
Mortefi s3
Chixia S?
Plus, Almost maxed talents for some
Where are you getting those resources..
Your Lucky af as f2p😂
Compared to you I only have total of 5, 5star items/characters.
My Luck is Wasting 4 star pity rolls on stupid weapon and stupid non meta character
If youre a day 1 player u can easily get yinlin+stringmaster and encore verina and 2 5* standard weapons, even as f2p just bcs how much they compensate us.
This game is like other gacha game, that is resources management and one of it is where to use your gacha currency.
He choose to spend on yinlin + stringmaster banner. He actually made very good decision that string master work very well with encore that can be swapped in every TOA runs, he got danjin and taoqi sequences from that banner too. High investment Yinlin an amazing sub DPS that very good for Havoc mc. Than he build havoc MC free strong DPS. His decision is really good for this early stage of game, he already focused on few characters with high investment. I kinda envy of his decision, even though I know that stringmaster is very strong universal weapon but I decided to skip it for jinshi, but it's okay I still having fun with my jinshi now meanwhile my echo resources management was bad that my yinlin build is far from good and my not well build jiyan just forgotten lmao. I'm okay with only 21 stars TOA right now, but after watching this video I need to plan to look after universal limited weapon. But still prioritize fun because with Time when we reached level 90 or above characters build we will be able full stars clear TOA, yeah just missing 100 ish gems every reset 😢
@@darmaone_4911 meta tc doesnt look what they want, is what they need for meta.
But fr hes lucky.
I lose to that stupid aero bitch on yinlin banner at hard pity..
While only got 1 copy of mortefi
Got s3 yuanwu, s4 amber but guns..
On jinhsi i got s6 Yangyang, S0 taoqi
While ONLY s3 sanhua only and s2 chixia.
Got jinhsi at hard pity..
Got Jinhsi weapon at hard pity again. Got no useable meta characters
Encore got her on selector at hard pity.
And a bunch of useless 4 star weapons.
Verina is free
Got free 5 star Sword
Thats it..
Stuck at
10 1 12 at TOA
I think this game aint for me. If i got lucky it could have been better.
Yuanwu sucks even buffed by toa he eats balls.
@@hoangvinh1485 just his luck.
yinlin banner.. Lose to aero gal at hard pity.. I scoured the map and only got up to 120 pull..
Didnt have enough gems to go for weapon.
Got cope yuanwu + cons, gun amber cons, taoqi + cons , some useless 4 star weapon and ONLY 1 copy of mortefi
Got verina for free.
Got encore at hard pity.
Got 5 star sword for free.
Funding for 5 star gun from free gems..
On jinhsi banner.
Cope yangyang cons and heck ONLY 1 con for sanhua.
Got her weapon..
Again, Just his luck...
a lot of that luck was pretty useless though, like static mist i haven't even leveled cause I don't really use mortefi or any gunner. lingyang also level 1 on the bench never used. I just optimised around a few things that I did roll like rectifier and sword characters, sharing lots of gear. my changli will also share gear with encore and if I get her signature danjin can also use it.
Whitout the intention to offend you seriously, this is the first Tower that I saw being f2p whit skill issue, the other ones were pros. So I'm actually surprise, getting hit, bad rotations. But you still being able to bit it. I'm going to share this to my friends that said you need skill to beat the tower f2p.
last rotation was harder(just ul 50 so not maxed talents) and i think those were the videos you saw. Anyway toa is basically easier than abyss as f2p in both so dont get your hopes up(or down) regarding this content's difficulty
One day they'll fix the janky camera and I'll give this game another shot
They fixed the free form targeting already, its much better than before.
i only managed to get 24😢
I spread ny resources cuz i kept doubting. How good is fully built yinlin with rover?
hi! i just wanted to ask since you're using impermanence heron as sanhua's main echo, is it better for her than lampylumen myriad? really nice run btw
in this run she is a sub dps so she uses Moonlight Set
thanks! and yeah moonlit is the best set for her so you want heron
Gg bro,not like me have skill Issue 😅
was just wondering but for hmc in terms of crit ratio, is 55/261 better or 74/213? Im pretty sure critting consistantly is more important but seeing ur hmc with a cd dreamless confused me
You generally want to push for a 1:2 ratio after subtracting 100% from cdmg, but if you're strapped for time, cdmg > crate as you can crit fish for the big hits on your ult.
Long term you want a cdmg Dreamless for HMC because s6 gives a lot of crit rate already.
when we get s6 havoc rover they will get free 25% crit rate so crit dmg dreamless is the way to go long term. for now my crit rate is a bit low but its useable. most important thing is picking the echos with the most useful substat rolls and my crit dmg echo is almost perfect!
I need to stop spreading my resource too thin
I have E2 encore (+12 Fusion damage) , so what's better for 3 cost (atk + fusion) or (double fusion)?
Whichever pieces have better substats. Double crit will outvalue the mainstat
If its e2 double fusion. Until u reach e4, then u change to fus atk
Bro you skipped jinshi for changli
I mean is changli better?
No idea I just like her looks better and gameplay seems cooler
What do you spend your waveplate on? Tacit fields?
no once i got decent sets I stopped and focused on forte leveling. you can see in the builds section most of my fortes are leveled
@@jamiekb9vthe problem is when we can get a decent sets 😂😂😂
@@ngasalaja2839Yeah we need lots of luck for that xD
Casual game,, thats why even u f2p, u can clear this game..
Is it a shame not to be able to clear endgame in this game or if it would take me 1 year to do it ?
it will take a lot of players a long time. this isn't normal. most players won't do this before lvl 90 ascension. many still won't after.
You can comfortably clear at level 80 ngl. So long as you know ur teams rotation and have a decent enough build for ur main dps. Well if ur playing on ur phone, then i understand. It is harder
@@eagan912 what are the standards for a decent DPS build ? I play Jiyan btw !
@@sof5495 preferably 1.8 - 2k atk, 60+cr/260+cdmg, if u have more er the better
@@eagan912 260 CRIT DMG seems wayyyy too much, considering I don't have his Sig weapon....
What good crit rate minimum in this game?
60 but honestly just take whatever you roll. echo grind is a long and arduous journey
Mostly the same for everyone except Jinhsi who needs at least 85+ to feel comfortable.
If its not 100 it’s always 50/50 . 70 should be enough for most chars
It’s all about how good ur echos are which affect the damage, nothing to do with F2P or not, everyone could do that if they could have good echos, so one thing u can flex with is only ur luck, not ur skill
Tell that to my friend with s2r1 Jiyan and insane echo stats but still get whooped by mourning aix F4. Game is heavily skill based so even with okayish echoes, if you practice and know how to rotate it works way better than relying on dmg
you can guarantee best echoes by fishing crit for first roll then getting to 25. No ifs, no buts, most efficient strat.
luck doesnt exist, learn probability and navigate through your plight
First time hearing the EN version of Encore. And here's my feed. EN Encore sounds like you can bring her to bed without repercussions. She sounds like a legal adult you can fuck with. JP version makes you go straight to jail.
dude wtf
This game is too grindy.
In genshin i can lvl up any character in 1 week or less... in this game is impossible.
They need to reduce the "Stamina" cost of materials/bosses, at least until we hit UL 60.
There's no way you're full building a genshin character in a week. Just to get the materials to max their weapon can take weeks
The difference is that genshin has been around for a long time and so we have a surplus of resources we no longer have to think about, like enhancement crystals, mora, adv exp
Early genshin's honestly more grindy than Wuwa bc at least we can guarantee proper main stats
In case you dunno genshin character to max takes 7m Mora but in wuwa it's only 2m
It's because you already have a lot of material on genshin by playing for years.
It just feels bad because almost all the content requires more waveplate compared to the resin you use in one domain but WuWa's faster to build characters.
This game is actually not that grindy compared to genshin , we have higher stamina cap and bosses cost 60 because they drop guaranteed 4 drops at high UL with decent amount of echo xp , compared to 2-3 boss drops in genshin, and we get double drops events (like the current one) often
You should learn how to spend your resources wisely, don't build a lot of characters at once , I learned this in genshin lol because mid game was actually hell when it came to resources