Installing Windows ME on Windows XP on Windows 7 on Windows 10 (Virtual Machine-ception)
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2019
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In a previous video, we installed Windows XP Mode inside of a Windows 7 VM. Today, we're taking things a step further. We're going to be attempting to install Windows ME inside of XP Mode, which is already running in a Windows 7 VM on my Windows 10 PC. Let's see what I got myself into.
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I am aware of the “How do I shutdown” link in the help documentation. I even went into it in the original cut of this video, but edited it out as I felt at the time this pertained to regular VMs and not XP mode. After going into it again it does tell you to press control alt delete and press the shut down button, which actually works in XP mode. So you are able to shut down XP Mode just like any other VM.
Yeah
Now that you know how to shut down the XP Mode VM, you should make a follow-up video where you increase its RAM and install Windows 98 inside of Windows Me, Windows 95 inside of Windows 98, etc.
I assume typing “shutdown -s -t 0” in the run box works. It still works in Windows 10.
Try windows vista
Well duh change the action for turning of the Windows xp
Windows ME starts lagging, then Windows XP starts lagging, then Windows 7 starts lagging, then windows 10 starts lagging, then real life starts lag... ging, then...
but it's actually impressive that the video+audio capture didn't seem to lag one bit behind all that :)
then the person starts lagging,then your table starts lagging,then your room starts lagging,then your house starts lagging,then your street starts lagging,then your community you live start lagging,then your district you lives starts lagging,then your city starts lagging ,then.....
then you state/province starts lagging ,then your country starts lagging, then your continent start lagging, then earth starts lagging,then solar system starts lagging,then....
then Orion Arm starts lagging,then Milky Way galaxy starts lagging,then Local Group starts lagging,then Virgo Supercluster starts lagging.then Laniakea Supercluster starts lagging,then...
@@superking676 then universe start lagging,then mutiverse start lagging,... Then everything start lagging
19:00 Ah, yes. The most balanced PC build.
A intel Core I7-7700k at 4.20GHz, running Windows XP with 256 MB of ram.
Yes, the 256 MB ram completes it 😂
Noob.
24:58 is the real chad.
...and having 20GB of the hard drive
It should be 69 mb ram because 4.20ghz
@@ankhatheegyptiancatusru you are so funny lmao!!!
Bluescreens at install. Pure ME quality
The best part was that it still worked
*Pure ME Cuality
("Cual" in spanish, means "which", so it says: "Which quality?")
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"You Can't Shut the Vm down" meanwhile in the ram settings "H o w d o i s h u t d o w n ? "
unistall vm
Press Ctrl+Alt+Del
well no till he will shows a way to do browservice with only one pc
average youtuber be like
E X A C T L Y
My college professor made it to 16 vms deep using vmx. He was using an off-site server
what a legend.
And he wasn't using a garbage 7700k CPU not meant for what this guy is trying to use it for.
@@JosephArata could you expand on that? I didn't get it... I thought these newer CPU's had "virtualization" or whatever that is
yes, but a cpu like that isn't powerful enough
@@flame2385 ofc it is. You don't need a 64 core threadripper to do that.
Now use Parallels to run the whole scenario on a Mac.
And then that in VMware on a laptop
On the 5$ Windows 98 PC
Are you virtualising a wii on the 5 dollar 98 pc
@@jaydenridley4 yes
This madlad
It's interesting to see how little Virtualbox has changed
CrAzYgIrL Yeah it's virtually the same.
ELECTROHAXZ Nice Pun
I know, right?
@Sigma Squadron lmao
Would you expect anything less from Oracle?
Use Ctrl+Alt Delete option toolbar in the XP Mode VM and it brings up XP Mode Ctrl+Alt+delete box and click Shut Down as normal
yes, finally someone wich has a brain
@@viibriwell looks like you don't even have one, "wich"
Super cool... That grey interface plus super colorful big buttons on the Sun Virtualbox app brought me right back to 2004/2005, the "golden age" of computing, before things became so "corporate" and "clean"
Just for future reference, in the VM settings, you should be able to change the close action from 'Hibernate' to 'Shutdown', which will then allow you to modify the VM configuration using the GUI.
What's next? Running Windows 98 inside ME inside XP Mode inside Windows 7 inside Windows 10?
I think that's the idea
I would watch that
How about...
Install Windows ME, find a virtual machine for that which can run XP, Which can run a virtual Machine that can run Windows 7 that can run a virtual machine that runs Windows 10....
THAT would be more challanging... But I guess there would not be enough memory, perhaps instead of ME, Win 2000 ?
Win 10 vm Win10 vm win 7 vm vista vm xp vm 2000 vm 98 vm 95 vm 3.1
@@dan2800 Win 10 VM, Win 8.1 VM, Win 8.0 VM, Win 7 VM, Win Vista VM, Win XP VM, Win 2000 VM, Win ME VM, Win 98SE VM, Win 98 VM, Win 95 VM, Win 3.1 VM and if possible, Win 3.0 VM and maybe even further back.
Those blue screens are perfectly normal for Windows ME.
I guess I'm in the minority. I never saw Me blue screen until setting up in a VM some years ago. Though I did manage to corrupt it to the point that it would only start up in Safe Mode, even if I selected "Start Windows Normally."
agreed.
I installed Windows ME on a VM, I didn’t get a blue screen.
Now do the reversal. Install win10 vm inside a XP
Natsue ???
@Natsue Dude, you can't name folders in win10 con/aux/prn because of windows 3.1. I'm sure it's compatible enough.
@Windows 10 not more complete just more locked up
He did the Windows 10 on XP video
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Yup!
this man answered some serious questions people never dared to ask
@@charlesaidendeleon8036 don't laugh or that might happen to you
Thank you Bill Gates
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@@LiteralHatter thats the point
this man answered some serious questions people never cared to ask
When doing this, you could take care to see to it that you have nested vt-d enabled. It essentially allows for recursive *hardware* virtualization. It has a much, much, muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch lighter impact, since it actually uses the page table functionality for emulation and can execute instructions directly.
Where do you set that?
Every single video you post makes me ask "why?!" in increasingly more incredulous tones every time and I love it.
I had a PC designed for Windows ME and I loved it. I know people give it crap, but it was mostly hardware compatibility issues. Similar to Vista - I loved Vista but I had a Thinkpad designed to run Vista so no problems.
I even ran windows me in a vm
And it ran fine
Windows ,98, SE is crappy in a vm though might just be the iso
You are literally Druaga1 and I love it.
Druaga1 is op
Ralsei is the best
@@ZGURemixer Indeed
But druaga1 is funny. He is not.
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When you went into the RAM settings there was a help link that said: "How do I shut down?"
Let me guess: shutdown.exe ?
I know I was like screaming this at the screen like when Dora the Explorer is like "do you see the chicken?" and its on her head.
I was triggered like hell. LIKE DUDE!!!
And even if you don't see that almost every adept win guy knows the shutdown command which should work or at least try it
*cough* Chevy is better *cough* (Sorry saw name and picture and couldn't help it)
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I don't think your biggest performance hit is the RAM, it's the fact that you have the host(XP) and client(ME) sharing CPU resources on the same core. I'm interested in seeing if there would be a performance boost by switching the XP VM from Virtual PC to either VMware Player or Virtual Box where you can dedicate cores to the VMs. So if you gave Windows 7 4 cores, you'll give Windows XP 2 cores and Windows ME 1 core.
You're welcome! I only found you a few days ago but I'm loving the content
By the time you get to Windows 3.1, Microsoft Golf should run slow enough to be playable.
Because I enjoy watching experimentation Windows videos like this where as you do things way out of the ordinary, you earned a sub from me! :)
Windows XP Mode ... Reminds me of Classic Mode on early Mac OS X Machines!
My mom gets Macs as her work computers and I remember Classic existing on some of those old PowerBooks.
Windows Me gave me so much hell on my first laptop. It used to blue screen me all the time, can't tell you how many times I had to do a reinstall. Then finally when windows Xp came out I installed that and it was so much more stable than Me. Looking forward to seeing you install it down to windows 3.1.
You could just have shut down the XP-Mode VM using the command line shutdown.exe... To speed things up, you could prepare the VMs on your host machine. Just install Virtual Box there (or use the portable version) and transfer the hard disk file into the vm when everything is installed and running. And give the VMs a lot more RAM. Nested virtualization really suffers from swapping. So you want to avoid swapping within your nested VMs as much as possible.
This is a great idea! Thanks for the suggestion
The issue with the lag may be from the amount separation between the gpu and the lowest vm coupled with the amount of CPU that's available through xp mode
Yeah. And not the fact that the gpu VirtualBox emulates have no drivers for Win9x.
Been watching the channel for a few years now! Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for sticking around!
4:21 - Ive come across your channel in the past but I came across it again and decided to subscribe and bindge watch some of your older videos.
Thank you so much!
I was going to point out the "How do I shut down" help thing but I see others have pointed it out already. If I were you though I would set up a Virtual Windows xp directly from VirtualBox with the amount of ram I want and carry on from there. However this is still really fun to watch, you have a relaxing tone to your voice and that's one of main reasons I love your content, I'm looking forward to watch this whole series till you reach window 1 😂 Cheers from Egypt.
i remember trying to do this with just win xp when i was a child lol
I wouldn’t use XP mode for this task. Download Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 instead. You’ll need a retail XP and do all the regular setting up stuff users are required to do, but at least you’ll have more control over the virtual hardware settings and assign more RAM. Still, I’d love to see getting all previous Windows versions installed. They’ll be so many layers of VMs it’ll be like a virtual ogre.
@Skytrace Ling OFFICIAL It was just a suggestion as the UI is almost exactly the same as XP mode VM while still offering host OS integration. However I've used both VMware and VirtuaBox and I do agree they are superior. Anything, though, is better than XM mode VM.
a blast from the past, i used to use xp mode for a while
"You can't shut the VM down"
the ram settings: " *H o w d o I s h u t d o w n ?* "
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hey smokers druaga1 here and today we're going to be creating some virtual machine-ception
You,linus,jay and computerclan-Ken are my best tech youtubers eveeer
agreed.
You did it bigger and better in *every* way!
You know what's funny? I have been watching your vids for a while, but I forgot to subscribe. Mistake has been fixed. Nice video, you seem to have done better than druaga1.
Haha thanks for subscribing!
Wow! Windows ME was running faster than usual. :)
When you open Virtual PC settings for XP there was a "close" tab where you could change what happens when you close the virtual machine...
I would love to see you trying this experiment again, but include Windows Vista as well. Also I found an older version of VirtualBox 1.3.2 which may run under olders system.
Actually include Windows 8.1 as well
I think this is possible because those older VirtualBox versions used "binary translation" to do the emulation. This means no hardware virtualization features were used. The emulator worked more like cross-architecture emulators, for example the mame/mess game emulators. It looked at the machine language code, and 'translated' this into some other machine language code, which was what actually got run by your machine.
So, all the spooky magic happened in that translation step, i.e., not letting the virtual machine run amok and break your host (as you can imagine, this was hard to make into a super-safe, rock-solid isolation layer, the way hardware-based emulators are supposed to be, nowadays). Early versions of vmware (before vmware was an astronomically expensive "framework" -- later the initial "vmware" product was rebranded as "vmware workstation") worked this same way... I believe, going all the way back to its origins as someone's doctoral dissertation or something like that.
BTW, I happened to stumble across the changelog just yesterday and Oracle just removed that translation-based execution mode from the VirtualBox product in the most recent release (6.1, if I'm not mistaken).
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thanks mike for the trick to format the drive
Windows ME: starts lagging
Me: loads shotgun with malicious intent
Windows ME: stops lagging
I thought of that first :) thanks for doing it
Install Windows 95 or Windows 3.11 in Windows ME VM using DosBox
98
*well now i dont think its impossible to install a vm on windows 3.1*
Give this man more subs.
cool i will try this as soon as possible,I did try doing this before where i try to install windows 2000 inside of windows 11 vm inside of my main windows 11 laptop
This is a VM from before I knew what a VM was
i noticed that the Windows ME VM was using the XP Luna theme, thats a pretty good touch on microsoft's part.
Thanks Michael! Now my brain hurts and it's marvelous
It would be cool to see new modern software on old hardware/OS's. Although that may not be simple, or it could be just as simple as using KernelEx.
I remember someone at Microsoft saying that not only is this Windows XP Mode, but if you choose to manually install Windows Vista or, for whatever reason, Windows 7 inside Windows Virtual PC. You can consider those Windows Vista Mode and Windows 7 Mode, respectedly.
Love that authentic ME experience
Amazing Video!
Thank you!
Regarding 10:20 "not knowing how to shut down Windows XP in Windows XP mode because the Shutdown button is missing: I would say that invoking the run box by pressing "Win Key + R" and then typing the following on the RUN box: shutdown -s -t 0 should force it to shut down. By the way the "-s" part tells the shutdown command to shutdown the computer, if you wanted to restart it you would use "-r" instead, the "-t 0" command tells the shutdown command to shut it down right away instead of waiting for the default 60 seconds if you did not use the "-s 0" command. the "0" part can be replaced by any second for example, if you want the shutdown command to execute the command in 2 minutes you would type "-t 120" for 120 seconds. There is no limit to the number of seconds you can use allowing you to run a command hours later if you like.
If you would like to cancel a shutdown command you can invoke the run box again and type: shutdown -a and press enter. "-a" cancels the shutdown command.
* If invoking the RUN box is not possible under XP mode, then you can run the CMD prompt by either finding it under accessories/system tools in the start menu or by going the long way and searching for it on c:\windows\system32\cmd.exe and under the cmd prompt you can run the same command and it should work just fine.
love this content, keep it up!
Thank you! Will do
thanks for making video
20:52 I only saw memes and heard myths that Windows ME crashes even during installation now I saw it XD
Am not sure of this, but I think the Windows 9x lineup does not support virtualization and hence no VM Manager exists for Windows ME or older, only existing for Windows 2000 and higher (NT Lineup), you'd have to sort to emulation which is even more slower than virtualization.
25:48 It says (Remote) because it uses REMOTE Desktop Connection/Protocol to connect the VM thus you only see Logoff and Windows Security instead of the "normal" shutdown..
I were using this sun version of VirtualBox daily to run 2 instances of a single software on 1 machine. I miss those old days :(
There is a couple of ways you could shutdown that virtual machine that I can think of, when in the machine go to system32 and run the shutdown.exe if its not there copy it to the machine,
But also there was a blue help option in settings under ram saying "how to shutdown" which you could check :)
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You clearly did beat me, I did use 'Windows NT 4.0'-VM and 'Windows 3.0/MS-DOS 6.0'-VM on 'Ubuntu Mate 19.10'-VM on my Ubuntu 19.10 host. I did install those Windows VMs long long ago and now I just copied it to the right folders on the vdi disk. Peace of cake, just allow nested virtualization in the VM and changed the Host key for the next level :)
I like to try to store all VMs in the shared folder, but that might only work for the first two levels. A shared folder of a shared folder might not be allowed :) However using SAMBA it should work.
When you start using Windows 11 on your main PC, do a Windows 10 VM and install in it Windows 8.1 then 7 then Vista then XP then ME or 98 and see if you can go further.
I so remember "Windows XP Mode"!
Could you to xp, but going through 8 and vista first?
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You can find a “How do I shut down” link under the RAM setting in the XPMODE settings
Windows8:"Are ya winnin', son?"
Windows10:"Help, I have an identitycrisis!"
10:50 I am following along your VM-ception experiment and you could shut down Windows XP by clicking on the Taskbar and pressing Alt+F4 to show the Shutdown dialog.
Win ME installation process brings some memories... )))
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How come we both have the same windows me disc from winworld retail 101 and you get the dos section, I get stuck right away, you had a cut right at that point of launch the vm for the install,
Did you go ahead and get a boot disc or something or install msdos 8 that winworld says ME is built on or did you install dos 5 or something first?
I started using VMs in 2009 too!
i started around 2012-15
There are older ports of qemu that exist for 9x based machines, plus dos had some virtual machine software itself. You should be able to find alot of this old stuff on win world.
I found you can actually hit alt+F4 in the VM and it brings up the normal shutdown prompt in xp mode. Test it if you wish.
I'm pretty sure you can use bochs (or something like that?) with windows me and older
I had an windows XP mode you can shut it down diesel in the yard since the lockdown click on the X doesn’t shut it down do you think it is hibernate the virtual machine
Can you do this? Yes.
Should you do this? No.
I always love the experiment videos. I used to do experiments on systems for stress tests and compatibility back in the day. That was so much fun.
Oh I just like testing our computers to see what I can do with them so I’m sure this is gonna be fun for me
17:00 that's because all the 7 and XP bits wanted to see grandpa or dad "Me" respectively and stopped working for a moment to chat with him.
Will you be able to make a link to download the Sun Virtual Box software?
in windows xp mode window itself i saw "Ctrl+Alt+Del" button on the menu. i was thinking if you can use that menu. it's like as if we always do in host OS when system crashes
@Michael MJD From one Michael to another, I like your kind of thinking, Going windows 1-10 in previous videos and now 10-1 through VM's The ultimate downgrade :D
Also back in the longhorn videos brought back the memories of trying out the versions I had at the time on my actual computer when they where actually within the evaluation periods
in the order I had them 4015 4008 4051 4053 4074 4093 around some point I tried the earliest 3683 :)
Very interesting proof of concept 😁✌️
To shutdown use command
Start - - > run and write "shutdown -s -t 0
Ez :)
Edit: windows me is very buggie, you may be lucky with windows 98 😉👍
have you ever tried taking a look at big sur in one of your virtual machines?
me: reads title
me: looks at my computer
my computer: i'm out-
Can you go further and run Windows 98 on ME? Surly thers some really old VM software that can do it
simply use cmd in admin and type "shutdown /s" for regular shutdown and "shutdown /r" for restarts
as some updates require an OS reload and some software as well in xp mode it simply hides the button as it wants the faster restore of hibernate rather than allowing you to actually shut down as a layman
any of the obscure shutdown methods will work, and you may actually be able to enforce a shutdown command in the host hypervisor window which acts like a network shutdown to the guest os
yeah sometimes silly things are done in the name of making it harder for noobs to do unintended things
My first PC ran Windows Me. 10 Gb hard drive, 400MHz Celeron 370, and a whopping 256 Mb ram(later upgraded to 512 Mb). What a beast.
I've used Windows 7 for 11 years of my 12 years of existence and I didn't know it had a "Windows XP mode", damn.
Was there a shutdown option in the "close" menu
If you want to get VMs working on Windows ME, you can always try KernelEx, and if that doesn't work, try an older program called Bochs.
Something you could try next time is to run Windows 2000 in virtualbox in XP mode. Then run Windows NT 4.0 in Windows 2000 and then run Windows NT 3.0 in Windows 4.0. This may work better as all of these versions are NT Based.
I had a stroke just reading that title.
lmao now i know i wasnt the only one
hey could you try and re do this but start out with windows 10 then go from there and use orical box i know you need a lot of ram don’t know how much your desktop has