Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that the FBI's plan to get the laptop was to have two of their agents pretend to have a lovers' quarrel, until Ross felt so awkward he'd leave, hopefully leaving his computer with all the info for his black market platform open and unattended? And even MORE hilarious that it _worked?_
SsnakeBite the more I think about that, the funnier it gets. We see two tricks in this video: an elaborate scam with multiple identities and carefully thought out reasoning, and a classic case of “hey! Look over there at that distraction!” Somehow, Ross fell for both
And like Walter White his downfall came as a result of hubris. Even then Walt almost got away with it all if not for that book, while Ross was being tracked from the start.
Yeah it's crazy that he didn't realize it wouldn't have been sustainable. There's always gonna be scam artists in any illegal business, it's the cost of doing business, and Ross should've treated it accordingly. No different from a retail store who includes leakage as an expense.
Ross was clearly a bright guy, which makes it completely unbelievable that he fell for someone like 'redandwhite.' The way this person communicated-dropping unnecessary details, showing off traces that supposedly led back to their identity, and yapping about things that would have been irrelevant to a real professional-should have raised huge red flags. It's hard to understand how someone as sharp as Ross could be duped by such a blatantly careless scam
“Can you make it 96 hours? I have big plans for the weekend...” when you are in a middle of a complicated standoff but you still want to show up at your best friends birthday BBQ... 😂
yeah I've been threatned by them bc my dad fot ina fought woth one we almost brought it to court and they said they would kill all of my family we moved states
Incompetent. It was bound to happen, really. The commerce tends to weed out these kinds of people. Everyone knows hits don't have fixed rates, those depend on how the hit transpires, the payments weren't even made with escrow and all before the supposed hit was done. What an amateur.
@@Kavallerocrime bosses have to be intelligent and at least cordial I’d imagine, especially with new possible businesses I’d imagine. HOWEVER, the biggest thing for me was “ yeah this guy stole from us but we killed his friend, but it’s cool he can go free” also them admitting to straight up murder
That YT recommended this to me who watches many history videos tells me that YT's AI is either not very sharp and didn't know that this video was not about the dangers of the ancient trading route or it is not simply sharp but has become self-aware and enjoys displaying its newfound sense of humor by recommending this video to history aficionados.
It is mindblowing to me that talking about hits and murders related to drug dealing is cool with youtube, but actually saying the names of drugs is tooooo much.
(American here) Aren't american laws fucking stupid when it comes to our media? NO BOOBS! THE NAKED BODY IS A SIN!!!! THE KIDS CAN'T SEE THAT! But people being stabbed and bombed and shot? Yeah that's fine for kids. What the fuck is wrong with our country? Why is America so weird about Nudity on TV, yet also has everyone "secretly" watching porn? It's just strange. I hate Europe for a lot of reasons, but their appreciation and common sense approach toward nudity is something I envy and wish America would follow on. It's the Human body.
Okay well I clicked on this expecting some historical travesties about the Chinese trade route but jesus christ I got invested in something I was not expecting
Ross so terribly underestimated the forces that would come after him. it caused him fatal mistakes: not to have a much stricter instant lockdown encryption system on his laptop, and worst of all, leaving traces that led straight to himself, even carrying his own name.
So let me get this right, some guy tried to blackmail the owner of silk road for $500k, the owner wanted him killed to stop any info being leaked, so that guy created another account and pretended to be a member of Hell's Angels and faked his own assassination and others, so he could actually scam the owner for even more than he originally planned?
I hear you on that. I thought Ross Ulbricht was a person with an above normal intelligence. But I was amazed that he could not put all this together and immediately see that he was being scammed, It seemed so obvious to me as I was reading the messages and timelines. I mean come on...Hells Angels!? LMAO. I would have banned all their accounts immediately with all that nonsense.
I think there's a point where if you believe that a person is who they say they are and are telling the truth, you kind of stop scanning for things that might not add up, as long as they aren't so glaring that you can't help but question it. But still... blackmail.txt?
@@eyegrinder94 probably talking about how it seemed the guy legitimately thought he could get blackmailed. Not even a "wtf this is fake" kind of thing. Just believed it was true and worked to get several assassins in
@RWDS scamming criminals out of money is stupid and greedy, but is it really something that you should pay for with your life? That's not justice. If Ross was the one who ordered those hits (3 of which were of people who had hardly any connection to him, and no direct connection at all), and since he almost certainly was, he definitely deserves that sentence. He's no more than an intelligent and power hungry disease.
@@TheSapphyre You're right. It's stupid and Greedy. Is it really something you'd want to pay for with your life? That's what Friendly Chemist and Lucy Drop should've been thinking. It was their own Graves they dug. I was involved in the drug trade with extremely scary people by a normie's standards. But they never hurt me... Why? because I always conducted good business and made sure things were good. Ross was in the right, because he was being extorted, blackmailed, and his business was being threatened, as well as many other vendors. Ross was in the right. And Originally he just wanted to scare the guy so he'd leave him alone and quit trying to fuck him over. Sounds pretty sane to me. Also, I am aware that this is strictly a hypothetical, since LucyDrop, FriendlyChemist, and RedandWhite were all the same person and no one actually got killed.
@@homegrowntwinkie His business was illegal and shouldn't have existed at all. He should have cashed out and left it behind, not attempt to murder. No one was in the right here. He played a stupid game and he won a prize worthy of his actions.
It really was. 😳 Chilling in how cold and easy everything was said. It’s amazing the shit people get caught up in, the shit they do to each other, the shit they do to get themselves killed...FriendlyChemist threatened a lot of lives. Though what he actually knew had little significance, he himself didn’t know that. He was willing to sacrifice others for his greed, not even for his family’s life. If I heard the threat over my family’s life was lifted, or at least lessened, I’d be so goddamn grateful. Time to hide. But he persisted. People get killed in this shit all the fucking time, it makes me sick. And they just look like regular dudes. This seriously terrified me.
@@CarrotConsumer Yeah, but no. Legal actions hold no ground when it comes to what's morally right. Drugs shouldn't be illegal. If they weren't, then this kind of shit wouldn't happen at all. I'm really not going to go in depth over it, strictly because I've done this a million different times, and there's so many fallacies to point out about it, that it would take a book to explain it all. DPR Was right by having a market which was online, anonymous, and way safer than buying drugs in person. He created a network that he made a cut from. Simple business tactics. If you don't want it to exist(and there are literally millions of black market tor sites) then you decriminalize drug use. But, it's not that way, so these actions come with the territory. Now, let's say your child or something is held for ransom... And the police won't help you for whatever reason. What do you do? Whatever you can do to get your child back. He built something, only to have someone scam him for a portion of it. He was in the right. Someone was attacking his business, clientele, etc.
Jesus Christ this was incredibly well done. I had no familiarity with the case and couldn't sleep until I finished the video. I'm heartbroken to see that there are no ads. You put in so much work into these. This is by far my favorite of yours yet
Why are you heartbroken? Think of how terrified you were while listening to this as an adult. Imagine if eight-year-olds sat here listening to this. As much as I love this channel and have so much respect for the creator, I don't think content like this should be so easily available to kids who feel like watching it. People like to say in response "it's the parents' responsibility to prevent their kids from watching" but when you were a kid, could your parents really stop you if you wanted to watch whatever you wanted? Even the best parents can't prevent their kids most of the time, it's just too easy and kids are smart enough to find a way to watch what they really want to watch. Demonetizing doesn't even prevent kids from watching, it just isn't advocated by youtube which is the very least they could do. But it bothers me that the general attitude on part of both creators and viewers is that they genuinely don't care how messed up kids would be by watching anything and everything they want online. Those kids would become adults, and I'm almost certain that any one of us can say we were messed up well into adulthood by at least one inappropriate thing we saw as kids.
This dude don’t order nothing but fake hits if you include the fbi one. There’s a lot of nuance in how people talk and type and it’s almost like a fingerprint. Who did he think he was talking to? A Harvard graduate criminal mastermind. Who would this person have to be to have the combination of skills to do all the crimes they was talking about and write detailed messages in that manner. It sounds too noir fiction
"everytime?" MAAAAANNNN stop LYING You know us as men buy one or 2 packs of boxer briefs and we will have them for like 2-3yrs before getting New ones hahaaha My fault im just ME I tell it how it is hahHaha
I think one of the most insane parts of this story is that Ross Ulbright was so easily fooled. He’s from Texas, dude had a 1450 on his SAT and studied Physics at UT Austin. A classically brilliant man who for whatever reason was also incredibly gullible 😂
I think his ego done him in. In his mind it was totally reasonable that he could convince some minions to gets an actual HA member to join his forum and engage him and do his bidding
I think we forget that everyone's human, including the bad guys. Bad guys have feelings (tho, a lack of sympathy towards their victims) and show politeness too.
I think you meant "demonetization"... unless you were talking about Ross Ulbrecht? In which case I think it's impossible NOT to demonize someone who puts out hits, so... yeah. A minefield either way.
The thrilling and easy-to-understand way you told this confusing ass story, with so many characters and happenings, is just mind blowing. Congratulations on the quality of content.
It wouldn't even be hard to render that method useless. If you take proper precautions, somebody "just grabbing your phone/tablet/laptop and running away" would be laughably easy to defeat. In a variety of ways.
I did think it to be clearly a scam until RedAndWhite appeared, I don't know exactly what it was, but before I knew it I was like "wait, so all those stories were actually real", and was completely hooked until the end. I think it was the same for DPR. The betrayal at the end that it was all a con was shocking and then hilarious. Like others mentioned it was still a tricky situation difficult to get out of, and that clearly played a part in fooling him (and me), but it's also so ironic that in trying to not be blackmailed he actually gave up twice than was originally asked for; it's just so beautiful, a complete and utter manipulation of emotions, intellect and intentions, a masterpiece dare I say
The first two , Friendlychemist, and lucydrop talked the exact same way to me so i also initially thought it was obviously a scam, but yeah something ab redandwhites persona switched it up for me too, his lingo switched up and it definitely didnt have the similarities the first two had, but when redandwhite was avoiding chatting on video ross shouldve knew something was up
@@8.5.ediblesWere redandwhite, lucydrop, and friendlychemist the same person? I know lucydrop and friendlychemist were but I'm kind of busy and didn't pay attention all the way and it's a bit long I don't want to go through it again.
Yea he did, it was like checkmate in 5 lol. Right before he started explaining the twist it just clicked in my head Shutter Island style and it totally blew my mind lol. That dude's epic
@@plaguerat7015 I really did enjoy this video THAT much. Normally i might lose focus while watching a mediocre movie. but that one had me focused through out the whole thing. obviously the level of enjoyment might vary from a person to another.
Hey, the first rule is that you don't talk about it. The second rule is that you don't talk about it. I jokingly asked my wife of almost 19 years now to marry me when she said she loved that film. 15 months later, I did. I am Jack's midlife crisis these days.
I’m a lawyer, and sometimes with criminal cases the Defendant simply refuses to take a plea deal against your advice and you have to go to trial despite not really having a defense. Also remember you’re innocent until proven guilty. Sometimes the best Defense isnt to present your own evidence but to simply say the State hasn’t provided enough evidence to convict me. In my experience that’s usually the argument people who’ve been caught red handed go with.
@@TheTERMlNAT0R probably not. There is very rarely evidence that one side does not anticipate… prior to any court proceedings, the prosecution is forced to share all their evidence with the defense (even if the evidence would hurt the prosecution). I’m willing to bet MrSlimSheaD is right, and it was DPR who rejected the deal. The plea bargain was actually very generous - only 10 years for his crimes. I’m willing to bet his lawyer had a hand in organizing that. However, DPR was stupid and kinda full of himself. Plus, he had been planning his defense for a long time. The whole purpose behind the DPR user was so he could argue that the site was not his in the event he got arrested (which he did). It’s almost like he fantasized about getting arrested and then arguing his way out of court… even though any sane lawyer could see DPR’s only chance was getting a good plea deal.
"We import a lot of things that would get this video demonetized and import a lot of things that would get this video demonetized in massive bulk amounts." had me dying.
One of the craziest things is that the last episode of Breaking Bad where Heisenberg finally loses and dies aired on September 29, 2013. Breaking Bad was one of Ross's favorite shows. Ross was arrested on October 1, 2013. That means he was arrested just two days after the final episode was released. It was as if the universe was warning him, foreshadowing his ultimate downfall. And the parallels of Walter White and Ross Ulbritch is so unncanny. Both are incredibly talented, intellectual and educated people, uses their wits to get involved in the black market. Both became millionaires, but ulitmately became their own downfall in the end.
Not just that but their motives were entirely similar. Both were not really that horrible at first, Ross wanting to make some money and possibly even make a free trade experiment, and Walter needing to pay for his medical bills. But it’s made more and more clear that neither of them ever cared about the innocent reason. They did it because they liked it.
@@reillymcwriting And both started as good individuals. Idealistic. Eventually they became corrupted. Both started to feel like a mafia boss and didn't mind having people kiIIed.
I imagine if we are all like the Truman show for aliens and they are all this crazy shit we do, I wonder what their opinions or feelings on our behavior are.
Even if he ignored the couple they would have tried something else later anyway. When the government is behind you and you dont know it, getting caught is just a matter of time.
@@generalhypocrisy1876 yeah it's called making sure the Gov't gets their cut, and you always play ball with them, and never piss them off. They're the biggest criminals of all, and have no issue working with and allowing other criminals to continue their business as long as you play by their rules and dont cause to many issues or draw to much attention..
@@TommyGunz the thing with criminals are that they have a way of getting you and there’s always a way out. If someone speak with the right people, not those that thinks “sell sell money money” but those that are serious about it, you might be able to take from the government instead of kissing their ass. And on top of that we are on the good and the more intelligent side, there goes a lot more IQ and thought into doing drug dealing for the people that for example being a policeman because you want to show your glock. So if we find the right people we will Bruce lee those motherfuckers
imagine being a bystander during the computer acquisition, like you're just minding your business doing homework in the library and a couple starts arguing, and then out of nowhere, a man in a suit SPRINTS to a laptop, snatches it, and runs away with the laptop carefully held open. what a weird day.
Ross was probably in the most isolated part of the library. As soon as they had his laptop and saw it was unlocked they arrested him. The article in Wired said he was arrested in the science fiction section of the library.
Well if you can believe that dread was another alias of this same dude and Ross was a fall guy, then that was actually a pretty good idea. I assume this guy is serving time for drugs and blackmail, which I alot better than going down as the silk road mastermind which guarentee gets life in prison..... plus if that's that case, he probably has millions in bitcoin hidden because nobody looked that hard after they found ross..... I mean obviously Ross did this but that is an interesting alternative reality.
I honeslty expected this to be the case. IUnless I missed it, the narrator highlighted when "RealLucyDrop" mentioned "FriendlyChemist" for the first time that DPR hadn't mentioned FC to RLC but no more came of it?
I thought the video was gonna be about the actual Silk Road that linked the east to the west, but this works too. Thanks for the informative video. It was quite chilling to see what actually happened in the dark networks.
Actually, when my brother told me if I knew silk road, I also thought of that. But to suprise me, this is genuinely scary thinking that hitman and other org may lurking from our plain sight.
@@rambutan3655 The hitman bullshit was a setup. The charges were dropped. This situation shows how well the FBI can manipulate a situation. Also, multiple people had access to the DPR account. Variety Jones and Carl Force being the most sinister.
I love how almost everybody came in here expecting to hear about the actual silk road, eager to hear about the complications of such a wondrous and lengthy trade route, but instead they find one about a black market site of sorts. It's like going to an orchard expecting some apples and finding a bunch of oranges. Not what you wanted but hey, they're oranges, no complaints there.
'Almost everybody' lol, tell me you're over 40 without saying you're over 40. (Just joking! Insane that you've never heard of The Silk Road before two months ago!)
@@jamesporrell5687 yes 48 year old lady here yes i clicked on this to learn about the old trade route called the silk road..i am a non techy and i heard of bitcoin as imaginary money..i can see why the banks do not like this concept...scam heaven..that they cannot control..interesting how this story unfolded..this old duck lives in the real world , i do appreciate the storytellers skill in explaining such things to the layman..
At the time Breaking Bad was pretty trendy so I would have imagined that Ross thought of himself as Walter, and that's probably part of the reason you think that way.
What gets me is how incredibly reasonable and polite they are to each other when setting up business despite the situation. "I'll cover the 500$ for you", "thanks for the offer though we'd like to pay just like everybody else", all in the same conversation as kidnapping and killing somebody. EDIT: Oh...
When it comes to being a business, giving favors to potential big sellers is a good way to secure their exclusivity on your platform. Reversely, it’s considered the smarter move to decline favors people give you in the criminal world. Nothing is free and unwanted loyalty or debt to the wrong party due to a favor can get you in a bad position.
Sounds like a flaw in all the SR type sites. The fact that any dealer could blackmail the admin with lists of customers. I guess it’s only a few dealers like Ellingson that would be in a position to do this but it still seems possible with other sites too.
This is the most interesting and intelligent use of social engineering I've seen. I've watched this three times. The hard left the scammer does by introducing the hell's angels when he realized that he wouldn't get paid for blackmailing. So smart.
Also, adding in time constraints for each post that would stress DPR and have him think irrationally. There was the original blackmail that had to be dealt within a few days, and there was the 4-person hit that was going to cost more if they were planning on leaving the province. It's such an obvious trick when you're looking for it, but easy to look past if you're gullible (like me) or not very perceptive.
the real social engineering is youtube suggesting this video of guy narrating a murder plot for 30 minutes straight to random people, if you look trough comments, most of them were thinking this is documentary of ancient silk road and dont watch these kind of videos
Tbh though the amount of typing on each account to me at least gives away the fact that they're the same people. Same stylistic choices, same patterns of speech (misspelling/typos/weird phrases being used), and same generally long messages even from someone that's a hardcore biker member? Idt either guy was that intelligent tbh, if the scammer was a super genius he certainly would've considered guising these personalities better. The reality though is that the time pressure he put on the guy made him act less rationally and THAT is true, true genius regardless of all the other obvious mistakes left in.
Check the documentary about this. This video is kinda biased. The agents that stole the money have a bigger part in all of it. Same with the bitcoin exchange guy
put this video on expecting it to act as background noise while i finish a few essays, and wow. completely hooked. loved everything about the delivery and just thoroughly enjoyed. amazing watch
I love that Ross thinks a guy from a biker gang apologizes in these messages and uses grammar like he's writing a novel. Grew up around some of these guys and not one was big on grammar...
That's the first thing I though. Wtf so articulate and well put together sentences... yeahhh dead give away.. so fucken polite and well educated.. I have no idea what's going on but even I know this ain't some bikie.. they don't have the patience for all that
I was a member of a 1% club and I can guarantee that no-one I ever knew used language like that. Everything is wrong, the attitude, the chatty way they write, but mostly the huge amount of information that 'red and white' gives away. I realised it was bullshit after the first couple of messages.
"blackmail.txt" LOL, seriously? And he didn't even question it? He got obsessed with money and power. By 2013 Breaking Bad was trending. I'm pretty sure he thought he was some sort of evil genius like Walter White. I'm from Colombia, I think we have enough experience with Druglords and Hitmen... These people don't behave like that, at all. Amazing story.
@@Steven-lb3tj Hi Steven. I can only talk about Colombia, I don't know about other countries; but I'd say colombian druglords set an importan milestone in terms of social interactions between criminal organizations; as it is known they developed strong links with cartels from all over the world and expanded their business to worldwide networks. They are extremely cautious people. By the 80s these people already used encrypted phones and military-level tech. The way this supposed druglord disclosed business information in such an insecure channel and ran businesses with Ross is totally unrealistic. Many of them have legitimate business and run "normal" lives. They wouldn't risk themselves that absurdly as seen in the video. Not only because they are cautious but because they also inherited many traits from the italian mafia: it is mainly a Family business, so they would only make business with "friends of friends", not a random guy you'd meet on the internet. So they would not have replied Ross's message at all or try to contact him. Even less so given the context: a failed dealer trying to connect his distributor to the manufacturers? they would have never replied such message. If they’d ever wanted to make business with Ross it would have been through another Dealer, but never with a man from within the organization. Another thing that I don't buy is the whole "hitmen" side of the business. Cartels do have hitmen, but they'd only run such contracts if the victim is an absolute obstacle to the cartel, or if they are enemies with other cartels. It is more like a private army / mercenaries. Their main business is making money, and that’s what the mercenaries protect: the business.S o they would always evaluate the risks of killing someone. Killing is very dangerous and would only happen if it is for a truly greater purpose, not simply because you could pay them to kill someone. That’s not *the* business. Does that make sense? Also, this horrible stuff wouldn’t happen between an external person asking the cartel to kill someone, even if there’s money involved. Because remember: they only do business with people they already know, most likely from within the network. When you see in the news that the juarez (mexican) or medellin (colombian) cartel is killing a lot of people, and it seems like they love doing that, is mainly because they are at war with the government or with other cartels - not just because it is ‘good for business’, but mainly because of gang wars and personal feuds or interests. Is usually an internal thing where, of course, many innocent families end up paying the price. But is definitely not like John Wick, hahaha. Does it make sense? TLDR: Cartels are family businesses. They only work with people they already know. They would not be interested in contacting someone like Ross. If such interaction ever happened, they’d have connected him with another more “trustworthy” dealer to make business with; but never with someone in charge of from within the organization. Also, they would kill only if that’s for the best interest of the cartel; although violence is extreme and very real, it is usually related to gang wars; not like the movie John Wick.
The fact that he intended and was under the impression to have successfully have essentially 3 people taken out is enough for me to say he got what he deserved
When you run a multi million dollar business…murder may indeed be a small portion of your success….i see no wrong here. He intended to do what anyone in his position hasn’t already done. Trust that shit
The red flag imo would have been a hells angel member just casually getting online and being so literate in computers and network security. Lol. I guess the scammer creating a sense of urgency was the key.
Moldygreenbean and happily just chatting away prices for hits etc 🤣🤣. And then saying they couldn’t find FC but catching Xin, FC and then Andrew in 2 days 😂😂😂
@@stugeh Maybe through proxies. If it wasn't apparent enough 10 years ago, it certainly is now that there is no such thing as complete anonymity on the internet. Tor or otherwise.
I don't think that hells angels are universally and without exception, so meat-headedly stuck in the 60's and 70's, that they can't operate a computer in any regard.
I think the red flag is how calm and patient the HA member was. I get the feeling most gang members would not be so literate and well-spoken online, and most wouldn’t take the time out of their day to set up some private chat with a random dude on a private website.
It’s also funny that Ross didn’t realize he was getting scammed when my first guess was that all those accounts were the same person. The whole story is so zany. The fact that he thought a Hell’s angel would make an account on his site because a middleman that owed them money told them to just shows how out of touch he was…
Exactly, there were so many red flags throughout the whole thing like the similarities in writing styles (overly long and rambling, incorrectly used lowercase i’s everywhere) and the complete implausibility of Red and White’s behaviour eg. *joining a dark web market (still fairly obscure at the time) solely to speak to a complete stranger about what is ostensibly just an ordinary, real-world, debt collection matter. *and then make numerous admissions of criminal behaviour to this complete stranger over the Internet, and even plan several murders with him, in painstaking detail, whilst professing to not be very tech savvy. *eagerly accepting bitcoin as the payment method for a 150k murder-for-hire, then after the fact claiming to not even know how to cash out bitcoin. *claiming that his organisation try’s to steer clear of murdering people, but then freely admits murdering somebody recently and happily accepts contracts for several more murders, and even has an established pricing structure for murders. *conveniently always just happens to have “a guy” on hand to do exactly what is required *always creates time pressure for Ross to agree to (and hence pay for) the murders quickly, which is a classic hallmark of a scam
@@shanetonkin2850 they also have safe houses, were they take people, that they seem to tort ure people to get them to talk, when not just was that not part of the deal. The info they got was exactly what was already known. They also have an entire recon team it's so ridiculous
@Shane Tonkin thanks for putting it all out like that because I can't help but think.. okay a Hell's Angel on the dark web exchanging messages with a guy who runs a massive drug market... fine, but immediately taking payment in bitcoin for hired hits with contracts in place and all the talking at length. You'd think he would recognize the plot got a bit silly.
I can’t believe that Ross actually fell for that scam. Everything was so fucking suspicious, starting with the real Lucy drop randomly bringing up friendlychemist even tho apparently he was in prison. Really good video thoufh
Killing: OK Drug Dealing: OK Organized Crime: OK Doxing: Dude what the heck!?! We don't do that here!!! That's like...wrong bro...anonymity is SACRED my guy...
this is about the criminal code. people love to think criminals have some underlying morals that they won’t betray but the truth is there’s a reason snitching is considered immoral while killing is not. it’s to save their own asses.
Kind of understand that. Killing is integral to some types of business. Anonymity should be considered sacred to anyone on the internet and snitches are fucking weak.
Doxing brings a lot of chaos to the equation. After a person is doxed, it is impossible to control who does what to whom. If a third party is getting screwed they can take matters into their own hands and complicate things. The honer code about anonymity is precisely about that.
Same, I was so excited to watch a video about all the unnerving shit that happen on the silk road that we never learned about in history class. Then I started watching the video and got even more excited!
@J Freeman lol, what? The corporations aren’t anonymous, theyre well known, they have all the money, and they dodge taxes that the rest of us poor folks pay. The current system cultivates powerful, large, and well known entities with their hands up politicians assholes like puppets, and they protect their interests and fuck the rest of us out of basic dignities like healthcare.
Man this was incredible, as someone who previously didint know about this case until watching this video, I was glued to the screen awaiting the end result. I was astonished finding out that ross got scammed as whilst I was watching I assumed he was actually getting people killed. Truly a fascinating story about what running a web site such as silk road can do to you.
Dude I lost 500 btc in the escrow seizure, fuck whoever was in charge of shutting down the SR escrow. I would have been rich by now if I hadn't lost all my current transaction on SR. I'd already gained £30k in the past 4 months before that in value of my btc.
Imagine; You own the biggest online drug market on earth, making millions per week. Your bit coin wallet will eventually be worth multiple BILLIONS of dollars. Then you get caught because a fed stole your laptop using the oldest trick in the book.
The funniest part to me is that the scammer actually fucked up at one point while acting as RedandWhite - they say that they kidnapped FriendlyChemist's partner, not LucyDrop's, at 32:55. And Ulbricht didn't even notice, he just assumes they meant LucyDrop's partner! The scammer definitely isn't a great person by any stretch (based on the fact that they seem to have screwed over plenty of end customers as well), but I'd be lying if I didn't say I got quite a bit of schadenfreude from watching Ulbricht walk directly into this trap.
Honestly, I feel like you’re the only creator outside of maybe yesterworld and like 2 others who actually puts thought and care into putting out a truthful and direct mostly unbiased documentary on events. Good on you man. Wish I had money to donate, but I don’t. Just know that I really enjoy your content.
This is so well-researched and put together...and disturbing. I had to break down my viewing into 2 parts. Just passed the 30 minute point and I cannot believe this type of content is provided for free on this website. So entertaining, loved the editing. It felt like I was going through half a season of a thriller tv show. im drunk. and scared
For real, I have been getting these kind of documentaries here on youtube on a variety of topics I would normally barely look up and it is all so involving and well-thought... These guys deserve all the recognition they can get for all this commitment.
I think one of the most impressive parts of this scam is how FriendlyChemist had the presence of mind to completely change the way he wrote between accounts without messing up
Yeah really. I keep seeing people say “it’s obvious they were the same person” but that’s simply not true. The only reason you’re saying that is because you’ve watched the video (or read comments/knew that beforehand).
@@cwill2127 it was actually very obvious they were the same person. I can’t believe he got fooled so easily. There’s many key points when they’re talking that made it dreadfully obvious
I completely fell for the twist at the end. It's not just that the scammer gave each character their own typing style - that much would be obvious to do. But to give them consistent character motivations that all played off each other, and to have them be tied into real world events, fake the addresses, fake the photos... and to be able to improvise it all, if DPR went in an unexpected direction. Make no mistake, despite the minor flaws, it is a masterful scam.
It was obvious af. Especially since right at the start RealLucyDrop starts asking how DPR knows FriendlyChemist for no reason. Also the typing styles really weren't that different. The only difference was they made friendlychemists message retarded. You can totally tell redandwhite and the reallucydrop are the same person.
I don’t have a shred of sympathy for Ross. He genuinely thought he murdered several people and was ok with that. I don’t even care if that’s not his charge. He’s a pretentious little slime ball and his parents are doing him NO favors by being in such denial. It’s pathetic, really. They’re now scammers themselves.
Cringey to hear the barely sociable clinging to these idealistic capitalist "he's just the embodiment of a market force man" as a way to forgive this shitty guy
Fair warning. Tons of spoilers in the comments.
Follow up video: ua-cam.com/video/1VZkiQUzITU/v-deo.html
Bro I was legit wanting an actual silk road documentary like the real life one. I am sad I have been click baited yet again :(
You sir are a talented investigative journalist. I'm hooked
Thanks!
We produce a lot of things that would get this video Demonitized, we also produce a lot of other things that would get this video Demonitized
what’s the next video?
Took me 8 seconds to realize this is not the about overland trade routes of the Han dynasty
this is literally what I thought this video was about, rofl
Same 😂 still watched it though
@@Jamsomeone Me as well.
Same
I said exactly the same thing out loud :'D
I was fully prepared to watch an hour long video about people being mugged in the sand over some chinese worm-cloth, but this works too.
I am forever going to call silk "worm-cloth" now, thank you
As soon as you left the protection of the Great Wall there was bandits who would rob you. Maybe they just didn’t go past the wall
Piehogger mood
Aha same here i was hoping for some epic stories about the Mongols or something
Lmaooooo same!
I watched this genuinely wanting a history of the dark side of a trade route 2,150 years ago, however still satisfied
I was hoping the same as I'm currently studying Economics in Uni. But shit went dark real quick
The camel on the sand path definitely was misleading xD
Same here
Me too 🤪
😭
"I've only ever commissioned one other hit, so I'm still learning this market" is CRAZY
Yeah, that was so callous, non-chalant and heartless.
So casual. Like he was sending an email to his boss or something
And imagine theres countless idiots on youtube supporting him and wishing he would be free
he was probably fronting remember this guy wasn't some hardcore criminal he was a extremely well educated college student
@@JW-hn5ntdid you even watch the video? he did have it carried out but it never actually happened and was a sting by authorities.
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that the FBI's plan to get the laptop was to have two of their agents pretend to have a lovers' quarrel, until Ross felt so awkward he'd leave, hopefully leaving his computer with all the info for his black market platform open and unattended? And even MORE hilarious that it _worked?_
Thats the kind of thing that would be in a comedy movie
SsnakeBite the more I think about that, the funnier it gets. We see two tricks in this video: an elaborate scam with multiple identities and carefully thought out reasoning, and a classic case of “hey! Look over there at that distraction!” Somehow, Ross fell for both
My take is the guy was a complete idiot who's narcissism made him believe he was untouchable. His arrest was inevitable.
Almosy makes it sound fake... or like he was set up.
Cpuld you imagine the cop that grabbed it amd was like ok i got it. You cam stop. Like imagine being ross in that situation wtf lol
"I won't be blackmailed." - quote from man blackmailed.
Shut up, fucking weeb.
-fucking weeb.
@@josephoyek6574 You sound like a moron
-a moron
@@candeeartist8590 Artists are irrelevant
- a smart man
@@chloewinnaa1515 I don't know what you're implying but whatever go off sis
@@candeeartist8590 just comtinuing the chain of insulting the person above. Nothin' personnel kid
I like how at the end he says have a good night, because this is exactly the type of video you watch at night
i’m watching at 4am
@@rebeccac324 shit, me too
I’m watching it at 2:15pm but it’s dark out cause it’s rainy
its 4 am and i'd watch it again
Shit put me to sleep
it's clear he was so enthusiastic about enacting a walter white-esque power play that he didnt stop to think about how anything actually worked
And like Walter White his downfall came as a result of hubris. Even then Walt almost got away with it all if not for that book, while Ross was being tracked from the start.
Yeah it's crazy that he didn't realize it wouldn't have been sustainable. There's always gonna be scam artists in any illegal business, it's the cost of doing business, and Ross should've treated it accordingly. No different from a retail store who includes leakage as an expense.
@@topspot4834 spillage
Ross was clearly a bright guy, which makes it completely unbelievable that he fell for someone like 'redandwhite.' The way this person communicated-dropping unnecessary details, showing off traces that supposedly led back to their identity, and yapping about things that would have been irrelevant to a real professional-should have raised huge red flags. It's hard to understand how someone as sharp as Ross could be duped by such a blatantly careless scam
“Can you make it 96 hours? I have big plans for the weekend...” when you are in a middle of a complicated standoff but you still want to show up at your best friends birthday BBQ... 😂
Lol. Yeah. The week in question was also the week of Ross Ulbricht's birthday. Damning indeed.
Mm yes yummy porkchop
Same thing I thought. Hahahahahh!!!!
Unreal.
That rack of ribs was calling his name
Came for the historic trade route.
Stayed for the dreadlock pirate.
kash Bamba same
get agrop
Well it was an historic trade route for the internet
The same but I didn't stay, just stop the video and came see if someone else was mistaken by the title. I'm out.
Dread pirate
"we produce a lot of things that would get this video demonetized" its really considerate of them to be so concerned with your video
those hell's angels folks seem mighty fine
Kevin Nix r/woooosh
@Kevin Nix I either love u, or hate u for that comment.
@@jacksonelh they are canadians after all
@@RadkeMaiden we do quite enjoy our crack addicts.
This is an absolutely brilliant video on one of the most fascinating true stories I've ever heard. Extremely well done sir!
Love how “hells angels” guy starts by claiming they don’t do hits and just a bit later he has all this intricate shit planned out
Exactly lol. “We don’t do hits” and then has guys that do recon, out of town guys, all professional’s who do it right and don’t f*** up. 😂
He was fucking with ross let's be honest lol
That’s what I thought lol they don’t call it that stuff when they don’t know for sure who they are talking to
yeah I've been threatned by them bc my dad fot ina fought woth one we almost brought it to court and they said they would kill all of my family we moved states
the most polite drug dealer ever
What’s up Ross being so trusting? I feel like he’s the type of guy to believe there are hot singles in your area.
wongoli wongo he was tempted with the offer of Hell Angels. He might be a tech-savant but he lacked of prospectives about human nature.
Incompetent. It was bound to happen, really. The commerce tends to weed out these kinds of people.
Everyone knows hits don't have fixed rates, those depend on how the hit transpires, the payments weren't even made with escrow and all before the supposed hit was done. What an amateur.
@@davidr5284 How do you know all this? lmao
wongoli wongo HAHAHHAHAHAHAH
Isn't it awesome!!! There's so many single milfs near me!!! And they all wanna fuck!!! They email me all the time!!!
Did this guy literqlly just try to pull the "it's a social experiment" / "it's a prank" at the court
How is it a prank and what would be the point
Money Laundering, Drug Trafficking, and FAKE Hitman Prank/Social Experiment (GONE SEXUAL!) *NOT CLICKBAIT*
Imagine the judge setting him free 😂
@@brendan1871 with a fatass red arrow
Imagine the judge then being like "understandable, have a nice day"
What a polite and well-spoken Hell’s Angel crime boss
That was already a big red flag for me that something fishy was going on.
literally my thought too. i was like man, this guy is so sweet!
@@Kavallerocrime bosses have to be intelligent and at least cordial I’d imagine, especially with new possible businesses I’d imagine. HOWEVER, the biggest thing for me was “ yeah this guy stole from us but we killed his friend, but it’s cool he can go free” also them admitting to straight up murder
I don’t remember the last time I watched an entire hour+ long video without skipping... great storytelling and narrative skills.
I watched inquisitormaster's 5 hour long video about John Doe with my eyes open about ten times already since 2017, let me say, it was bad.
Same here, his narrative skills and keeping us captivated shines through. Some channels even a ten minute video feels like torture
true
try fredrik knudsen
ZP accurate
ok but why do hitman requests sound like negotiating art commissions?
😂😂😂
kurapikaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Bruhhh
Hahahahah
"Art requires a certain... cruelty"
-some dude from a popular MOBA game who is obsessed with the number 4
Me who wanted to learn about the ancient Mongolian trade route:
*anger*
Me too.
That YT recommended this to me who watches many history videos tells me that YT's AI is either not very sharp and didn't know that this video was not about the dangers of the ancient trading route or it is not simply sharp but has become self-aware and enjoys displaying its newfound sense of humor by recommending this video to history aficionados.
@@curtislowe4577 nah, computers are too stupid to understand context or humour
Just read books about silk road.😂😂
I was thinking the same
this is my comfort video. ive fell asleep to it so many times. I go to it when I feel down or when I feel happy. Thank you for making it.
soo glad i am not the only one!!!!
me too!
Fr, his voice is so comforting
Haha same here
How? this shit makes me so paranoid and uncomfortable
It is mindblowing to me that talking about hits and murders related to drug dealing is cool with youtube, but actually saying the names of drugs is tooooo much.
UA-cam is backwards.
Shhhhhh don’t say anything YT doesn’t fix anything they just ban the next thing people bring up aswell
Liberal democrats
(American here) Aren't american laws fucking stupid when it comes to our media? NO BOOBS! THE NAKED BODY IS A SIN!!!! THE KIDS CAN'T SEE THAT! But people being stabbed and bombed and shot? Yeah that's fine for kids. What the fuck is wrong with our country? Why is America so weird about Nudity on TV, yet also has everyone "secretly" watching porn? It's just strange. I hate Europe for a lot of reasons, but their appreciation and common sense approach toward nudity is something I envy and wish America would follow on. It's the Human body.
You can still read the drug names
This man straight up baited the whole entire World History fan community
THANK YOU! but it was worth it
honestly yes
He got me
He got me, but HE DIDN'T. Because I am also a huge internet guy.
Came for the world history, stayed for the lulz
Okay well I clicked on this expecting some historical travesties about the Chinese trade route but jesus christ I got invested in something I was not expecting
lmaooo i thought that too
If you think this is a switch, wait til you visit r/superbowl on reddit. As a non-sports fan, I was very pleasantly surprised.
Thank god I wasn’t the only person expecting a historical video lmao
I thought the same thing as well
Me too, I was pleasantly surprised by this though
Ross so terribly underestimated the forces that would come after him. it caused him fatal mistakes: not to have a much stricter instant lockdown encryption system on his laptop, and worst of all, leaving traces that led straight to himself, even carrying his own name.
the encryption would be useless once it was in the hands of the FBI they would crack that computer for everything it has
Also just straight up leaves computer open in public. Id never do that and I don't have that much to hide lol
So let me get this right, some guy tried to blackmail the owner of silk road for $500k, the owner wanted him killed to stop any info being leaked, so that guy created another account and pretended to be a member of Hell's Angels and faked his own assassination and others, so he could actually scam the owner for even more than he originally planned?
This is why people like him with no social skills or basic understanding of how the crime world works shouldn't be involved in crime(myself included)
@Rich depends on the criminal but usually yes
Social engineering 101
@MrKalashnik0va OK pickle Rick
I hear you on that. I thought Ross Ulbricht was a person with an above normal intelligence. But I was amazed that he could not put all this together and immediately see that he was being scammed, It seemed so obvious to me as I was reading the messages and timelines. I mean come on...Hells Angels!? LMAO. I would have banned all their accounts immediately with all that nonsense.
Dude was so manipulated didn't even question the blackmail.txt
I think there's a point where if you believe that a person is who they say they are and are telling the truth, you kind of stop scanning for things that might not add up, as long as they aren't so glaring that you can't help but question it. But still... blackmail.txt?
@@eyegrinder94 probably talking about how it seemed the guy legitimately thought he could get blackmailed. Not even a "wtf this is fake" kind of thing. Just believed it was true and worked to get several assassins in
Who was redndwhite and friendlychemist ?
takitaki rumbah the same person, ross got scammed
@@fatpen9731 I think they were all the same guy... Lucy, Rednwhite and friendlychemist were all this James Ellingson guy that later got arrested.
This is the scariest thing you've posted so far. Getting mixed up with people like this sounds like absolute hell.
@RWDS scamming criminals out of money is stupid and greedy, but is it really something that you should pay for with your life? That's not justice. If Ross was the one who ordered those hits (3 of which were of people who had hardly any connection to him, and no direct connection at all), and since he almost certainly was, he definitely deserves that sentence. He's no more than an intelligent and power hungry disease.
@@TheSapphyre You're right. It's stupid and Greedy. Is it really something you'd want to pay for with your life? That's what Friendly Chemist and Lucy Drop should've been thinking. It was their own Graves they dug. I was involved in the drug trade with extremely scary people by a normie's standards. But they never hurt me... Why? because I always conducted good business and made sure things were good. Ross was in the right, because he was being extorted, blackmailed, and his business was being threatened, as well as many other vendors. Ross was in the right. And Originally he just wanted to scare the guy so he'd leave him alone and quit trying to fuck him over. Sounds pretty sane to me.
Also, I am aware that this is strictly a hypothetical, since LucyDrop, FriendlyChemist, and RedandWhite were all the same person and no one actually got killed.
@@homegrowntwinkie His business was illegal and shouldn't have existed at all. He should have cashed out and left it behind, not attempt to murder. No one was in the right here. He played a stupid game and he won a prize worthy of his actions.
It really was. 😳
Chilling in how cold and easy everything was said. It’s amazing the shit people get caught up in, the shit they do to each other, the shit they do to get themselves killed...FriendlyChemist threatened a lot of lives. Though what he actually knew had little significance, he himself didn’t know that. He was willing to sacrifice others for his greed, not even for his family’s life. If I heard the threat over my family’s life was lifted, or at least lessened, I’d be so goddamn grateful. Time to hide. But he persisted. People get killed in this shit all the fucking time, it makes me sick.
And they just look like regular dudes.
This seriously terrified me.
@@CarrotConsumer Yeah, but no.
Legal actions hold no ground when it comes to what's morally right. Drugs shouldn't be illegal. If they weren't, then this kind of shit wouldn't happen at all. I'm really not going to go in depth over it, strictly because I've done this a million different times, and there's so many fallacies to point out about it, that it would take a book to explain it all. DPR Was right by having a market which was online, anonymous, and way safer than buying drugs in person. He created a network that he made a cut from. Simple business tactics. If you don't want it to exist(and there are literally millions of black market tor sites) then you decriminalize drug use. But, it's not that way, so these actions come with the territory. Now, let's say your child or something is held for ransom... And the police won't help you for whatever reason. What do you do? Whatever you can do to get your child back. He built something, only to have someone scam him for a portion of it. He was in the right. Someone was attacking his business, clientele, etc.
Great video
Who else is here from the tweet 👇
@@AdityaKumar-uf5home
U were talking like u saw this video earlier... nah bro, u just watched this video because of the tweet
Hey Daily! Found this video after seeing your tweet
Came here after your recommendation. Currently downloading, will watch it later.
Jesus Christ this was incredibly well done. I had no familiarity with the case and couldn't sleep until I finished the video. I'm heartbroken to see that there are no ads. You put in so much work into these. This is by far my favorite of yours yet
Skylar Rose mine had an ad!
i had ads too :D!!
I have six ads! Legit don’t mind it because Barely Sociable put so much effort into this.
@Jesus Christ you obviously dont know what a shill is. only make sit more ironic that ur username is Jesus Christ and ur far from saintly
Why are you heartbroken? Think of how terrified you were while listening to this as an adult. Imagine if eight-year-olds sat here listening to this. As much as I love this channel and have so much respect for the creator, I don't think content like this should be so easily available to kids who feel like watching it. People like to say in response "it's the parents' responsibility to prevent their kids from watching" but when you were a kid, could your parents really stop you if you wanted to watch whatever you wanted? Even the best parents can't prevent their kids most of the time, it's just too easy and kids are smart enough to find a way to watch what they really want to watch. Demonetizing doesn't even prevent kids from watching, it just isn't advocated by youtube which is the very least they could do. But it bothers me that the general attitude on part of both creators and viewers is that they genuinely don't care how messed up kids would be by watching anything and everything they want online. Those kids would become adults, and I'm almost certain that any one of us can say we were messed up well into adulthood by at least one inappropriate thing we saw as kids.
Damn homie was ordering murders like I order underwear on Amazon. I take the 5 for $20 pack every time.
No man it was the wish list
Lmfaooo
This dude don’t order nothing but fake hits if you include the fbi one. There’s a lot of nuance in how people talk and type and it’s almost like a fingerprint. Who did he think he was talking to? A Harvard graduate criminal mastermind. Who would this person have to be to have the combination of skills to do all the crimes they was talking about and write detailed messages in that manner. It sounds too noir fiction
"everytime?"
MAAAAANNNN stop LYING You know us as men buy one or 2 packs of boxer briefs and we will have them for like 2-3yrs before getting New ones hahaaha
My fault im just ME I tell it how it is hahHaha
Commit a murder of 5 fot tbe low low price of 20. Wjat a steal
This guy must play GTA V roleplay servers like a God. Pulling off three different identities perfectly
When your years of GTA V roleplaying experience makes you a millionaire.
Wtf... this is a thing?
@@jeobonilla You must be new to the internet my boy?
ZeppKF
Yeah day one... idk how I missed gta role play 🙄
jeobonilla you poor soul
I think one of the most insane parts of this story is that Ross Ulbright was so easily fooled. He’s from Texas, dude had a 1450 on his SAT and studied Physics at UT Austin. A classically brilliant man who for whatever reason was also incredibly gullible 😂
Its called not being street smart
@@mbtravel7294 Mhm
I think his ego done him in. In his mind it was totally reasonable that he could convince some minions to gets an actual HA member to join his forum and engage him and do his bidding
The hell does being from Texas have to do wit anything 😂😂
UT Dallas
The fact that FriendlyChemist was supposedly murdered on the 1st of April is an excellent coincidence.
high caliber trolling
I want to laugh and not at the same time
@ghost Yeah I'll take a bucket, too
@@Thanosdidtherighthing op
@@Thanosdidtherighthing you got any of the hard stuff like strepsils?
Is it me or are DPR and R&W surprisingly polite to one another. “My mistake, I should have checked with you before sending all four hit men.” Lol
LMAOOO LIKE THEYRE TALKING ABOUT SENDING COOKIES 😭💀
I think we forget that everyone's human, including the bad guys. Bad guys have feelings (tho, a lack of sympathy towards their victims) and show politeness too.
because R&W is Canadian :D
They just tryna do business, plus they both hate scammers equally as much lmao
@@KraZSK well, one of them is a scammer
LMFAO avoiding demonization must have been like walking through a minefield
"Tony76 AKA Canuck"...
Ummm, I don't think his name was simply "Canuck" 😂
"I walk through minefields...YEEEAAAHHHHH!" - Keith Flint (Prodigy)
@@suprcrzy GD you can't say nipple??? YT sucks
Karl Dennis lucy in the sky with Tony
I think you meant "demonetization"... unless you were talking about Ross Ulbrecht? In which case I think it's impossible NOT to demonize someone who puts out hits, so... yeah. A minefield either way.
Anytime I’m bored and have nothing to do I rewatch this masterpiece of a video.
I'm just amazed by the Hell's Angels' politeness and spelling.
Oh wait nvm, that's why
@@blackwersus LOOOL best comment!
and tech savvy too!
The hells angles do some crazy shit but iv had family members say that they are polite and genuinely like to help people
@@Ryan_scott15 yupp. My dad has ridden and worked on Harleys since I was a wee lass and the ones I've got to meet were nice 😇
The thrilling and easy-to-understand way you told this confusing ass story, with so many characters and happenings, is just mind blowing. Congratulations on the quality of content.
How Ross was caught straight up sounds like a skit from snl
It wouldn't even be hard to render that method useless. If you take proper precautions, somebody "just grabbing your phone/tablet/laptop and running away" would be laughably easy to defeat. In a variety of ways.
I did think it to be clearly a scam until RedAndWhite appeared, I don't know exactly what it was, but before I knew it I was like "wait, so all those stories were actually real", and was completely hooked until the end. I think it was the same for DPR. The betrayal at the end that it was all a con was shocking and then hilarious. Like others mentioned it was still a tricky situation difficult to get out of, and that clearly played a part in fooling him (and me), but it's also so ironic that in trying to not be blackmailed he actually gave up twice than was originally asked for; it's just so beautiful, a complete and utter manipulation of emotions, intellect and intentions, a masterpiece dare I say
The first two , Friendlychemist, and lucydrop talked the exact same way to me so i also initially thought it was obviously a scam, but yeah something ab redandwhites persona switched it up for me too, his lingo switched up and it definitely didnt have the similarities the first two had, but when redandwhite was avoiding chatting on video ross shouldve knew something was up
@@8.5.ediblesWere redandwhite, lucydrop, and friendlychemist the same person? I know lucydrop and friendlychemist were but I'm kind of busy and didn't pay attention all the way and it's a bit long I don't want to go through it again.
That friendly chemist guy and redandwhite stuff actually blew my mind. Literally played 10D chess and destroyed that guy.
Yea he did, it was like checkmate in 5 lol. Right before he started explaining the twist it just clicked in my head Shutter Island style and it totally blew my mind lol. That dude's epic
Amazing move.
it started off as 4D chess and ended up being 10D
He was too naive
@@Ren-mu1tq I agree. Who the fk sends 650k dollars without actually doing his research. For a smart guy he was unbelievably stupid.
IMAGINE a guy reading emails is much more entertaining than hollywood's action movies !!!
What a channel !
real lifes a trip lol
Ok you’re kind of exaggerating here I’d probably rather watch a Hollywood action movie
@@plaguerat7015 I really did enjoy this video THAT much. Normally i might lose focus while watching a mediocre movie. but that one had me focused through out the whole thing. obviously the level of enjoyment might vary from a person to another.
bro that plot twist at the end blew my mind
@@lightwalker1751 That the hits/accounts was not real?
Plot twist: Ross was DreadPirateRoberts, FriendlyChemist, and RedAndWhite. This was Fight Club. It was all in his head.
You mean Fight club, right?
@@bounzig Damn, you're right.
F**** C***
I hate that I laughed hard at this for a while
Hey, the first rule is that you don't talk about it. The second rule is that you don't talk about it. I jokingly asked my wife of almost 19 years now to marry me when she said she loved that film. 15 months later, I did. I am Jack's midlife crisis these days.
I’m a lawyer, and sometimes with criminal cases the Defendant simply refuses to take a plea deal against your advice and you have to go to trial despite not really having a defense. Also remember you’re innocent until proven guilty. Sometimes the best Defense isnt to present your own evidence but to simply say the State hasn’t provided enough evidence to convict me. In my experience that’s usually the argument people who’ve been caught red handed go with.
I’m sure his lawyer thought they had some level of defense….or I believe the prosecution had some evidence that Ross’s lawyers didn’t anticipate?
@@TheTERMlNAT0R probably not. There is very rarely evidence that one side does not anticipate… prior to any court proceedings, the prosecution is forced to share all their evidence with the defense (even if the evidence would hurt the prosecution).
I’m willing to bet MrSlimSheaD is right, and it was DPR who rejected the deal. The plea bargain was actually very generous - only 10 years for his crimes. I’m willing to bet his lawyer had a hand in organizing that.
However, DPR was stupid and kinda full of himself. Plus, he had been planning his defense for a long time. The whole purpose behind the DPR user was so he could argue that the site was not his in the event he got arrested (which he did). It’s almost like he fantasized about getting arrested and then arguing his way out of court… even though any sane lawyer could see DPR’s only chance was getting a good plea deal.
I'm sure your a lawyer MrSlim
25:09
"You don't know how to handle this situation, but I do."
*immediately gets scammed*
Two life sentences won't heal this kind of fuckup.
Dont be foolish. All of that shit really happened
Hahahahaha I forgot he said that. Man that makes the burn critical
Eli Elshani - Ross is a Savage, I would be scared shitless being blackmailed
XD
Lol, it was worth $60M when he recorded this video. If you're watching this in April 2021, Ross was scammed approximately $425M. Unreal
damn...
290M now
At that time it was less then million, but i give you that, how the value inflated is incredible
Exactly.
@@Neuroszima I know but guhdamn Elon killed it 💀
"We import a lot of things that would get this video demonetized and import a lot of things that would get this video demonetized in massive bulk amounts." had me dying.
In case anyone is wondering, 28:55
If you read carefully you can still read it tho.
@@hieatus1039 shhhh! xD
One of the craziest things is that the last episode of Breaking Bad where Heisenberg finally loses and dies aired on September 29, 2013. Breaking Bad was one of Ross's favorite shows. Ross was arrested on October 1, 2013. That means he was arrested just two days after the final episode was released. It was as if the universe was warning him, foreshadowing his ultimate downfall. And the parallels of Walter White and Ross Ulbritch is so unncanny. Both are incredibly talented, intellectual and educated people, uses their wits to get involved in the black market. Both became millionaires, but ulitmately became their own downfall in the end.
Not just that but their motives were entirely similar. Both were not really that horrible at first, Ross wanting to make some money and possibly even make a free trade experiment, and Walter needing to pay for his medical bills. But it’s made more and more clear that neither of them ever cared about the innocent reason.
They did it because they liked it.
@@reillymcwriting And both started as good individuals. Idealistic. Eventually they became corrupted. Both started to feel like a mafia boss and didn't mind having people kiIIed.
It's another example of how real events can be even more impressive than a lot of fiction
I imagine if we are all like the Truman show for aliens and they are all this crazy shit we do, I wonder what their opinions or feelings on our behavior are.
@@JohnDoe-j3p I mean, people are interested at watching bees build a nest and ants digging. So I'm sure they might find us interesting to watch.
Maybe the real Dread Pirate Roberts were the friends we made along the way.
BDtetra one piece reference? Lmfao
I literally dropped my phone from laughing
He should have quoted wesley in the court case when they asked if he was DPR
no i want my fucking drugs
BDtetra
That is _not_ how you use an apostrophe.
You telling me the feds got his laptop by using the "look over there!" trick?
Even if he ignored the couple they would have tried something else later anyway. When the government is behind you and you dont know it, getting caught is just a matter of time.
@@cylemons8099 Death note style
@@generalhypocrisy1876 yeah it's called making sure the Gov't gets their cut, and you always play ball with them, and never piss them off. They're the biggest criminals of all, and have no issue working with and allowing other criminals to continue their business as long as you play by their rules and dont cause to many issues or draw to much attention..
Yup.
@@TommyGunz the thing with criminals are that they have a way of getting you and there’s always a way out. If someone speak with the right people, not those that thinks “sell sell money money” but those that are serious about it, you might be able to take from the government instead of kissing their ass.
And on top of that we are on the good and the more intelligent side, there goes a lot more IQ and thought into doing drug dealing for the people that for example being a policeman because you want to show your glock. So if we find the right people we will Bruce lee those motherfuckers
imagine being a bystander during the computer acquisition, like you're just minding your business doing homework in the library and a couple starts arguing, and then out of nowhere, a man in a suit SPRINTS to a laptop, snatches it, and runs away with the laptop carefully held open. what a weird day.
actually, the agent just quickly inserted a flashdrive which copied all the info on it. not sure how that works, but that's what i've read.
I read that every single person in the library that day was an FBI Agent
@@ZacheryGlass That would make sense as no normal person would just do nothing when someone Steaks a laptop or even put a flashdrive in it
Ross was probably in the most isolated part of the library. As soon as they had his laptop and saw it was unlocked they arrested him. The article in Wired said he was arrested in the science fiction section of the library.
Starts looking for Ashton Kutcher *
“We produce a lot of things that would get this video demonetized” made me laugh way too hard
The real twist would be if even DreadPirateRoberts was just another one of this dude's aliases and everything was just him talking to himself.
And then ending up in prison for talking to himself like a real bozo lmao.
That's some shutter island shit HAHAHAHA
Well if you can believe that dread was another alias of this same dude and Ross was a fall guy, then that was actually a pretty good idea. I assume this guy is serving time for drugs and blackmail, which I alot better than going down as the silk road mastermind which guarentee gets life in prison..... plus if that's that case, he probably has millions in bitcoin hidden because nobody looked that hard after they found ross..... I mean obviously Ross did this but that is an interesting alternative reality.
I honeslty expected this to be the case. IUnless I missed it, the narrator highlighted when "RealLucyDrop" mentioned "FriendlyChemist" for the first time that DPR hadn't mentioned FC to RLC but no more came of it?
Love this…
I thought the video was gonna be about the actual Silk Road that linked the east to the west, but this works too. Thanks for the informative video. It was quite chilling to see what actually happened in the dark networks.
and ghengshi khan goin about raiding villages and all.
same 💀💀
Actually, when my brother told me if I knew silk road, I also thought of that. But to suprise me, this is genuinely scary thinking that hitman and other org may lurking from our plain sight.
@@rambutan3655 The hitman bullshit was a setup. The charges were dropped. This situation shows how well the FBI can manipulate a situation. Also, multiple people had access to the DPR account. Variety Jones and Carl Force being the most sinister.
I love how almost everybody came in here expecting to hear about the actual silk road, eager to hear about the complications of such a wondrous and lengthy trade route, but instead they find one about a black market site of sorts.
It's like going to an orchard expecting some apples and finding a bunch of oranges. Not what you wanted but hey, they're oranges, no complaints there.
'Almost everybody' lol, tell me you're over 40 without saying you're over 40. (Just joking! Insane that you've never heard of The Silk Road before two months ago!)
Its the thumbnail picture of the guy on the camel that is misleading
@@mikiesnaxx4604 that was the silk road website logo
@@jamesporrell5687 yes 48 year old lady here yes i clicked on this to learn about the old trade route called the silk road..i am a non techy and i heard of bitcoin as imaginary money..i can see why the banks do not like this concept...scam heaven..that they cannot control..interesting how this story unfolded..this old duck lives in the real world , i do appreciate the storytellers skill in explaining such things to the layman..
Especially when you like Oranges.
This is absolutely one of *the* most interesting videos/docs on UA-cam. Very well done, and what a crazy story!
It's like if Breaking Bad was a Discord server
Was literally thinking the same thing Haha
Did you know what I was thinking before I even thought about it?
Best comment
At the time Breaking Bad was pretty trendy so I would have imagined that Ross thought of himself as Walter, and that's probably part of the reason you think that way.
@@elijahpepe The book American Kingpin tells the story of how Ross made the Silk Road. There's quite a few parallels between him and Walter
I clicked thinking this was a history of the trade routes connecting Asia and Europe between ~200BC and ~1700AD
Same
You're not the only one 🙂
Same here
Your school project will be alot more exciting if you write about this
Then you’re dumb
What gets me is how incredibly reasonable and polite they are to each other when setting up business despite the situation. "I'll cover the 500$ for you", "thanks for the offer though we'd like to pay just like everybody else", all in the same conversation as kidnapping and killing somebody.
EDIT: Oh...
Yeah I cannot understand how DPR didn't find that remotely suspicious.
Man straight up. I was like “it’s so impressive how professional the HA are!” PLOT TWIST hahah
Especially from a biker gang....
I mean they are Canadian
When it comes to being a business, giving favors to potential big sellers is a good way to secure their exclusivity on your platform. Reversely, it’s considered the smarter move to decline favors people give you in the criminal world. Nothing is free and unwanted loyalty or debt to the wrong party due to a favor can get you in a bad position.
Sounds like a flaw in all the SR type sites. The fact that any dealer could blackmail the admin with lists of customers. I guess it’s only a few dealers like Ellingson that would be in a position to do this but it still seems possible with other sites too.
facts
Wow the person who scammed him hit a gold mine. Turns out the Friendly Chemist wasn't that friendly after all.
Hostile chemist
@@notstinky9274 i hate that i laughed at that
This is the most interesting and intelligent use of social engineering I've seen. I've watched this three times. The hard left the scammer does by introducing the hell's angels when he realized that he wouldn't get paid for blackmailing. So smart.
Also, adding in time constraints for each post that would stress DPR and have him think irrationally. There was the original blackmail that had to be dealt within a few days, and there was the 4-person hit that was going to cost more if they were planning on leaving the province. It's such an obvious trick when you're looking for it, but easy to look past if you're gullible (like me) or not very perceptive.
the real social engineering is youtube suggesting this video of guy narrating a murder plot for 30 minutes straight to random people, if you look trough comments, most of them were thinking this is documentary of ancient silk road and dont watch these kind of videos
@@geejee1255 and noone thought about the MMO, that is a shame
Tbh though the amount of typing on each account to me at least gives away the fact that they're the same people. Same stylistic choices, same patterns of speech (misspelling/typos/weird phrases being used), and same generally long messages even from someone that's a hardcore biker member? Idt either guy was that intelligent tbh, if the scammer was a super genius he certainly would've considered guising these personalities better.
The reality though is that the time pressure he put on the guy made him act less rationally and THAT is true, true genius regardless of all the other obvious mistakes left in.
So basically his legal defense boiled down to "it was just a prank bro"
Lmaoo
It was a social experiment bruh
logan paul walks out of the back rooms of the court IT JUST A PRANK BRO
Why you mad bruh just a prank bruh
Check the documentary about this. This video is kinda biased. The agents that stole the money have a bigger part in all of it. Same with the bitcoin exchange guy
put this video on expecting it to act as background noise while i finish a few essays, and wow. completely hooked. loved everything about the delivery and just thoroughly enjoyed. amazing watch
dude this is the best recommend UA-cam ever gave to me.
Brah totally
Daily Blog visit buypainkillerz.com
Same here.
@@snatchpro3674 another here
Hahahaha can't wait to watch all these series bout the dark realm of our world
I love that Ross thinks a guy from a biker gang apologizes in these messages and uses grammar like he's writing a novel. Grew up around some of these guys and not one was big on grammar...
That's what I thought. But I thought maybe they empolyed some nerd to do delegations for them
And they let the tech nerd talk about putting out hits on people 🙄 lmfao!
That's because he was trying to play big bad gangster but lacked common sense because he was just a nerd with no street sense at all
That's the first thing I though. Wtf so articulate and well put together sentences... yeahhh dead give away.. so fucken polite and well educated.. I have no idea what's going on but even I know this ain't some bikie.. they don't have the patience for all that
I was a member of a 1% club and I can guarantee that no-one I ever knew used language like that. Everything is wrong, the attitude, the chatty way they write, but mostly the huge amount of information that 'red and white' gives away. I realised it was bullshit after the first couple of messages.
"blackmail.txt" LOL, seriously? And he didn't even question it?
He got obsessed with money and power. By 2013 Breaking Bad was trending. I'm pretty sure he thought he was some sort of evil genius like Walter White.
I'm from Colombia, I think we have enough experience with Druglords and Hitmen... These people don't behave like that, at all.
Amazing story.
wait, what's the time stamp on the blackmail.txt
zeffery 44:46
@@hectoraldana7080 thanks. man that's so stupid. he couldn't think of a better name for a made-up file?
How would they behave?
@@Steven-lb3tj Hi Steven. I can only talk about Colombia, I don't know about other countries; but I'd say colombian druglords set an importan milestone in terms of social interactions between criminal organizations; as it is known they developed strong links with cartels from all over the world and expanded their business to worldwide networks.
They are extremely cautious people. By the 80s these people already used encrypted phones and military-level tech. The way this supposed druglord disclosed business information in such an insecure channel and ran businesses with Ross is totally unrealistic. Many of them have legitimate business and run "normal" lives. They wouldn't risk themselves that absurdly as seen in the video.
Not only because they are cautious but because they also inherited many traits from the italian mafia: it is mainly a Family business, so they would only make business with "friends of friends", not a random guy you'd meet on the internet. So they would not have replied Ross's message at all or try to contact him. Even less so given the context: a failed dealer trying to connect his distributor to the manufacturers? they would have never replied such message. If they’d ever wanted to make business with Ross it would have been through another Dealer, but never with a man from within the organization.
Another thing that I don't buy is the whole "hitmen" side of the business. Cartels do have hitmen, but they'd only run such contracts if the victim is an absolute obstacle to the cartel, or if they are enemies with other cartels. It is more like a private army / mercenaries. Their main business is making money, and that’s what the mercenaries protect: the business.S o they would always evaluate the risks of killing someone. Killing is very dangerous and would only happen if it is for a truly greater purpose, not simply because you could pay them to kill someone. That’s not *the* business. Does that make sense?
Also, this horrible stuff wouldn’t happen between an external person asking the cartel to kill someone, even if there’s money involved. Because remember: they only do business with people they already know, most likely from within the network.
When you see in the news that the juarez (mexican) or medellin (colombian) cartel is killing a lot of people, and it seems like they love doing that, is mainly because they are at war with the government or with other cartels - not just because it is ‘good for business’, but mainly because of gang wars and personal feuds or interests. Is usually an internal thing where, of course, many innocent families end up paying the price. But is definitely not like John Wick, hahaha. Does it make sense?
TLDR: Cartels are family businesses. They only work with people they already know. They would not be interested in contacting someone like Ross. If such interaction ever happened, they’d have connected him with another more “trustworthy” dealer to make business with; but never with someone in charge of from within the organization. Also, they would kill only if that’s for the best interest of the cartel; although violence is extreme and very real, it is usually related to gang wars; not like the movie John Wick.
The fact that he intended and was under the impression to have successfully have essentially 3 people taken out is enough for me to say he got what he deserved
Exactly. Blew my mind when BS said the sentence was too harsh. Ross did not care about anyone’s life but his own.
When you run a multi million dollar business…murder may indeed be a small portion of your success….i see no wrong here. He intended to do what anyone in his position hasn’t already done. Trust that shit
Which was arguably entrapment, not to mention the max penalty being 9 years in prison, not life without parole
@@TheTERMlNAT0R So you would be willing to commit murder to maintain your business?
@@dogguy8603 How was this entrapment? It wasn't law enforcement doing this, it was a scammer
Oh my god, this is basically a documentary
It's amazing, isn't it?
Caleb Sherman YESSSSSSS!
I’m not mad
only the BEST documentary
Shane Dawson should take notes.
The red flag imo would have been a hells angel member just casually getting online and being so literate in computers and network security. Lol.
I guess the scammer creating a sense of urgency was the key.
Moldygreenbean and happily just chatting away prices for hits etc 🤣🤣. And then saying they couldn’t find FC but catching Xin, FC and then Andrew in 2 days 😂😂😂
You think the hell angels aren't all over the deep web drug trade?
@@stugeh Maybe through proxies. If it wasn't apparent enough 10 years ago, it certainly is now that there is no such thing as complete anonymity on the internet. Tor or otherwise.
I don't think that hells angels are universally and without exception, so meat-headedly stuck in the 60's and 70's, that they can't operate a computer in any regard.
I think the red flag is how calm and patient the HA member was. I get the feeling most gang members would not be so literate and well-spoken online, and most wouldn’t take the time out of their day to set up some private chat with a random dude on a private website.
It’s also funny that Ross didn’t realize he was getting scammed when my first guess was that all those accounts were the same person. The whole story is so zany. The fact that he thought a Hell’s angel would make an account on his site because a middleman that owed them money told them to just shows how out of touch he was…
Exactly, there were so many red flags throughout the whole thing like the similarities in writing styles (overly long and rambling, incorrectly used lowercase i’s everywhere) and the complete implausibility of Red and White’s behaviour
eg.
*joining a dark web market (still fairly obscure at the time) solely to speak to a complete stranger about what is ostensibly just an ordinary, real-world, debt collection matter.
*and then make numerous admissions of criminal behaviour to this complete stranger over the Internet, and even plan several murders with him, in painstaking detail, whilst professing to not be very tech savvy.
*eagerly accepting bitcoin as the payment method for a 150k murder-for-hire, then after the fact claiming to not even know how to cash out bitcoin.
*claiming that his organisation try’s to steer clear of murdering people, but then freely admits murdering somebody recently and happily accepts contracts for several more murders, and even has an established pricing structure for murders.
*conveniently always just happens to have “a guy” on hand to do exactly what is required
*always creates time pressure for Ross to agree to (and hence pay for) the murders quickly, which is a classic hallmark of a scam
lmfaooo literally came here to comment this exact thing.
@@shanetonkin2850 they also have safe houses, were they take people, that they seem to tort ure people to get them to talk, when not just was that not part of the deal. The info they got was exactly what was already known. They also have an entire recon team it's so ridiculous
@Shane Tonkin thanks for putting it all out like that because I can't help but think.. okay a Hell's Angel on the dark web exchanging messages with a guy who runs a massive drug market... fine, but immediately taking payment in bitcoin for hired hits with contracts in place and all the talking at length. You'd think he would recognize the plot got a bit silly.
Even funnier how Red&White had a icon of a skull in a biker helmet. Like they'd go out of their way to do that 😂
he was so caught up in this crime lord fantasy that he couldn’t even realize that all those accounts were the same person? Seemed so obvious to me
Friendly chemist graduated from Nigerian school of princes. He’s playing chess 10 moves ahead.
LOL he found 1 million he lost long time ago
Please send mony to Banks of Nigeria
166$ btc
4d chess
@@fliora4177 *5d
"Ross wasn't given a plea deal. The proseuction just told him they would give him a harsher charge if he plead not guilty"
Thats. Thats a plea deal.
:))))))
How much harsher could it have even been than life in prison?
@@colin9630 Different cell maybe, kinda 5 stars special solitary room with no toilet?? 😬
@@colin9630 death sentence maybe?
@@colin9630 They could have given him three life sentences.
⚠️ Spoiler Alert ⚠️
*LucyDrop aka RealLucyDrop aka FriendlyChemist aka redandwhite aka tony76*
That was the best character scam I've ever seen...
aka tony76
@@sepelinit1185 aka Sepelini T, i know it all
@@felipedesoto5999 aka I watched the video
@@sepelinit1185 you will not fake me, you made the billions and sold his data to the fbi, now he is in jail and youre on youtube
@@felipedesoto5999 Lol you're a crackup buddy! I'm a mastermind!
I love the how the pure friendship and mutual respect was created in chats between R&W and DPR ❤
He scammed him tho
Yes! Me too, I am puzzled by their politeness. I mean, these are men that torture and kill others (ostensibly).
New idea for a yaoi fanfic ❤❤❤
lucy drop sounds like a really good lemon flavored candy
Dialga236 just dose it on a really good lemon flavored candy
It sounds like a really good name for a vendor.. oh shit.. Of.. candy!
love a drop of lucy of my lemon head and friends
Lucy drop is lsd. I activate antiwoooosh sheilds
zeranzeran it’s Lucy- u don’t know what Lucy is?
I can’t believe that Ross actually fell for that scam. Everything was so fucking suspicious, starting with the real Lucy drop randomly bringing up friendlychemist even tho apparently he was in prison. Really good video thoufh
@Richard Favreau He had his real name on his email and basically gave out his identity. Not a genius, that's for sure.
2 degrees smart. Not street smart
Bro when you have too much money and a big empire ,that can fall like a pack of cards stacked up , you feel every fucking things is real.
i dont understand tho. didnt he make him write a number beside lucy drops body? he faked that too?
@@aditya5162 What's the faking of a body for 150k? Bring the cameras and the ketchup boooys!!
Killing: OK
Drug Dealing: OK
Organized Crime: OK
Doxing: Dude what the heck!?! We don't do that here!!! That's like...wrong bro...anonymity is SACRED my guy...
this is about the criminal code. people love to think criminals have some underlying morals that they won’t betray but the truth is there’s a reason snitching is considered immoral while killing is not. it’s to save their own asses.
Kind of understand that. Killing is integral to some types of business. Anonymity should be considered sacred to anyone on the internet and snitches are fucking weak.
@@tomwaitsmencse lol ok buddy...
Doxing brings a lot of chaos to the equation. After a person is doxed, it is impossible to control who does what to whom. If a third party is getting screwed they can take matters into their own hands and complicate things.
The honer code about anonymity is precisely about that.
The Silk Road had a few rules, no child porn, no weapons, and no doxing
Coming back to this video, had to say, that still to this day this has been one of my absolute favorite videos on UA-cam. Thanks!
I feel like I'm on a hit list now after hearing those messages lmao
Don't look under your bed.
Jeff Madrigal bro stfu you’re not supposed to tell them before we go with the hit
Jeff Madrigal ya freakin spoiled it!
@@azrael7891 tc .. completely ruined it
@@azrael7891 Fukkin Jeff. *Unscrews silencer*
Ross looks like the last guy I’d expect to be running a multimillion dollar drug market.
It’s always the people you think would least be involved in stuff
multiB
That’s like 90% of these dark net markets. Only nerds know how to do this shit, ain’t gone find a tatted up guido or blood on this shit
It makes me sad how most people only mention the drugs even though sex trafficking was super popular on the website too.
Phrax same
not gonna lie I thought this was about the ancient silk road for some reason
(Edit) : sub to josh bean vlogs
Flaming Goomba same!
It wouldn’t be surprising if it was though. The Silk Road was certainly a dangerous and interesting trade route.
Omg me too and it took me a good minute to realize it wasn’t
I was dissappinted to find out it wasn't
Same, I was so excited to watch a video about all the unnerving shit that happen on the silk road that we never learned about in history class. Then I started watching the video and got even more excited!
Same, I feel like it was the camel in the thumbnail.
This is by far the best video i've ever seen on youtube. Just came back to rewatch it and its truly amazing.
Lol, it felt like Ross thought he was talking to the CEO of the hells angel
He really thought he was hitting the big time. He got completely goofed on
Lol very well-spoken hells angels rep for sure. lots of please and thank yous for ruthless biker gang drug smuggler king pins lol
@J Freeman "The biggest gangsters would end up with all the money and power" as if that's not how it already is lol
I love how the "hells angels" took the time to create a graphic for their profile picture
@J Freeman lol, what? The corporations aren’t anonymous, theyre well known, they have all the money, and they dodge taxes that the rest of us poor folks pay. The current system cultivates powerful, large, and well known entities with their hands up politicians assholes like puppets, and they protect their interests and fuck the rest of us out of basic dignities like healthcare.
Man this was incredible, as someone who previously didint know about this case until watching this video, I was glued to the screen awaiting the end result. I was astonished finding out that ross got scammed as whilst I was watching I assumed he was actually getting people killed. Truly a fascinating story about what running a web site such as silk road can do to you.
Dude I lost 500 btc in the escrow seizure, fuck whoever was in charge of shutting down the SR escrow. I would have been rich by now if I hadn't lost all my current transaction on SR. I'd already gained £30k in the past 4 months before that in value of my btc.
Check out the podcast “casefile” he has a 4 part series on the Silk Road and covers absolutely everything. It’s really good
Spoiler alert Jesus dude
@@khall187 sorry bro.
Always wondered what happened to this site was always cool to see what they had selling
Imagine;
You own the biggest online drug market on earth, making millions per week. Your bit coin wallet will eventually be worth multiple BILLIONS of dollars.
Then you get caught because a fed stole your laptop using the oldest trick in the book.
Lol I would have expect him to be a smart Mafia boss but bruh got caught so easy
Real life day z, loose it al
Can We Get A F In Chat?
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The 'Ole lovers quarrel, gets 'em everytime
The funniest part to me is that the scammer actually fucked up at one point while acting as RedandWhite - they say that they kidnapped FriendlyChemist's partner, not LucyDrop's, at 32:55. And Ulbricht didn't even notice, he just assumes they meant LucyDrop's partner! The scammer definitely isn't a great person by any stretch (based on the fact that they seem to have screwed over plenty of end customers as well), but I'd be lying if I didn't say I got quite a bit of schadenfreude from watching Ulbricht walk directly into this trap.
Well the customers were probably libertarians so I don't feel too bad.
I caught that too! Adding to the earlier slip-up with “real” Lucydrop asking how DPR knows Friendly Chemist… this guy’s really not paying attention.
Nice spotting, I missed that.
You could get anything on the Silk Road but my father's love and approval.
You doing okay? 😔
You could pay a daddy to pee on you. But thats not love thats lust.
Ill pay YOUR dad to love ME
Nohomo tho
Next best thing tho
I can be your dad
I love how you describe the people as characters because literally everyone involved besides Ross was fictitious.
One was a CI. A real person - but I know what you mean (I hope).
Yeahh. Its crazy.. That was the plot twist of the whole thing for me..
GAH I SHOULDN'T HAVE READ COMMENTS BUT I'M ALSO RELIEVED.
thanks.. you saved me an hour. So Ross was set up and he should be released from prison stat.
@@Jackson-e4k he fully thought he was killing people, he shouldn't be freed
laughed at "we have a lot of things that would get this video demonetized" being read in the exact same tone as the rest of the paragraph
I’m still confused 😂 was that not part of the story?😂😂
@@Perk30huh no, he censors the names of various drugs to avoid ads being cut, since the video is an hour and he likely spent a shitfuck of time on it
@@thezombiecreeper I found ”a shitfuck of time” more amusing than I should have. And, he most definitely spent that amount of time, lol.
Honestly, I feel like you’re the only creator outside of maybe yesterworld and like 2 others who actually puts thought and care into putting out a truthful and direct mostly unbiased documentary on events. Good on you man. Wish I had money to donate, but I don’t. Just know that I really enjoy your content.
This is so well-researched and put together...and disturbing. I had to break down my viewing into 2 parts. Just passed the 30 minute point and I cannot believe this type of content is provided for free on this website. So entertaining, loved the editing. It felt like I was going through half a season of a thriller tv show. im drunk. and scared
For real, I have been getting these kind of documentaries here on youtube on a variety of topics I would normally barely look up and it is all so involving and well-thought... These guys deserve all the recognition they can get for all this commitment.
Drunk and scared? That's a thing?
Mad Respect to Barely Sociable for providing a "Netflix-level Documentary" for free.
word
There’s also a great professional docu about it called The Deep Web.
@@andytom91 Is that the sequel to Deep Throat.?
Netflix can only wish to compare to this
Much better than Netflix
Came here for a documentary about the road 2000 years ago and got this, still earned yourself a sub this was incredible
I think one of the most impressive parts of this scam is how FriendlyChemist had the presence of mind to completely change the way he wrote between accounts without messing up
Million dollar scammer
What's most impressive to me is the perfect and realistic lengths in responses to DPR
Yeah really. I keep seeing people say “it’s obvious they were the same person” but that’s simply not true. The only reason you’re saying that is because you’ve watched the video (or read comments/knew that beforehand).
@@pepitodiablo912 if they really were that separate the scammer would have to wake up at the middle of the night for him just to respond
@@cwill2127 it was actually very obvious they were the same person. I can’t believe he got fooled so easily. There’s many key points when they’re talking that made it dreadfully obvious
I completely fell for the twist at the end. It's not just that the scammer gave each character their own typing style - that much would be obvious to do. But to give them consistent character motivations that all played off each other, and to have them be tied into real world events, fake the addresses, fake the photos... and to be able to improvise it all, if DPR went in an unexpected direction. Make no mistake, despite the minor flaws, it is a masterful scam.
So if I’m getting this right, all persons involved besides DRP were James Ellingson?
@@uhIcy Yes. This is spelled out explicitly at 58:26
It was obvious af. Especially since right at the start RealLucyDrop starts asking how DPR knows FriendlyChemist for no reason. Also the typing styles really weren't that different. The only difference was they made friendlychemists message retarded. You can totally tell redandwhite and the reallucydrop are the same person.
Also how friendlychemist spoke like a retard but also managed to get every piece of lucydrops details and keylog him
This is some death note type shit
so glad this was randomly recommended to me. so fucking interesting
NurseCarnivore EXACTLY!
Agreed!
Saame maybe we're being targeted to investigate into some new "silk road" iam an avid tripper.
Explosive Joseph avid tripper? 🤔 tell me more 🤓
@@NurseCarnivore dont think too deep into it. means i trip avidly. If you dont understand my terminology you need more fun in your life.
I don’t have a shred of sympathy for Ross. He genuinely thought he murdered several people and was ok with that. I don’t even care if that’s not his charge. He’s a pretentious little slime ball and his parents are doing him NO favors by being in such denial. It’s pathetic, really. They’re now scammers themselves.
Cringey to hear the barely sociable clinging to these idealistic capitalist "he's just the embodiment of a market force man" as a way to forgive this shitty guy
I agree.