*IMPORTANT* FYI some of the video is mirrored especially under the car. Always remember the saying "lefty loosey, righty tighty" (spinning a bolt or nut to the left to loosen, and to the right to tighten when you're looking at it straight on)
This is such a great video explaining how this thing works. 034 sells different dogbone parts than some other manufacturers, and it's really unclear which parts are actually needed when you go to buy them. I was content to buy the upper and lower aluminum pieces but I couldn't tell if they had to be installed with the aftermarket arm and pucks too, which would have rocketed it up in price. Good to know that's not the case, definitely gonna pick this up now! Thanks for this great video, definitely earned a sub!
I actually only really feel the vibration when going from a stop, as well as when you go into reverse. Aside from that it's not too noticeable in my opinion. Glad the video helped 👍
Just installed this set up on mine and was thinking the same thing. Added lots of vibration. I just did an entire stage 2+ unitronic set up on my A3 so I’m glad this is what is causing the vibration and not something else 😂
I got a bunch of 034 parts on my Golf R. They work very well. I have the dogbone right now and am looking to order there street density motor mounts. I was looking at BFI / ECS but have heard bad reviews about vibration.
You're right. I realized after with the front facing camera the video was mirrored. To be fair if someone doesn't know the basics of "lefty loosey, righty tighty" they really shouldn't be working on their own car.
@@ChampagneS3 You'd think so, but when you've been working on Euro cars for a while, you realise sometimes they'll use a reverse threaded bolt to catch out new players. Some of the pulleys and whatnot. Just a thought anyway, not a criticism. All good.
I know you said it's best to use new bolts, but in the case of re-using the stock bolts, are the torque specs the same? The install guide for the dogbone mount for my 8P says to reuse the stock bolts and torque to 74lb-ft, but the install guide for the upper insert says to use a new bolt and torque to 96lb-ft +90⁰ like you stated in your video
If you absolutely have to you can reuse them.. But they are stretch bolts and more or less are meant for 1 time use. When you get the chance try to replace them at some point down the road.
@@ChampagneS3 I just went ahead and ordered the new bolt kit, wish I would've done that to begin with but like I said their instructions said to reuse the old one! Thanks for the reply!!
Good video, I just subscribed. I was wondering when you jack up the car, do you need to make sure your car is level when installing? I am going to order these soon and wondering if I can drive my car on ramps to install, but wasn't sure if that angle could cause movement of any components that might affect the install once the bolts are removed? I am doing this on an 2016 S3, I imagine torque specs would be the same?
Thanks for the support! You actually don't, I just raised the front and it's fairly easy to shift the transmission a bit forward to line up the bolt, takes very little force. Obviously if you are able to life both back and front you probably won't need to shift anything to line up the bolt, but to be honest my bolts went in very easily. Torque specs will be the same!
Any extra noise in your build due to this? I had them installed and hear an annoying rattle present up to 60-70mph. Did the shop do something wrong or is this normal?
Maybe a dumb question, but why does the car need to be up on axle stands? Why couldnt i just drive it up onto ramps? This is just a motor mount and not connected to any suspension components, right?
@@ChampagneS3 interesting. I don't get that though because yes there will be load on the sway bar, but that doesn't have anything to do with the dogbone. And the subframe cross member shouldnt move or flex. But I'll toss it on stands anyway 👍🏻
@@Mike-mz9cm I actually bought ramps just to do this install and quickly realized the aligning issue when I got down there to bolt it together. You're actually pull on the underside of the engine a bit to align the bolt. I'm not exactly sure where load is when it's on ramps but this is the issue I came across when installing
@@SIMPLB9 I personally have just done the inserts. The upper and lower inserts. I haven't gotten the arm but I don't feel its all that necessary. More so the puck replacement (bushing).
I've just got the 034 upper and dog mount insert installed today. Feeling quite a lot of vibration during acceleration and coming to a stop and during light launch. Is this normal and will it go away over time?
When I installed my upper Dogbone mount, and pushed it all the way in, the lower part seems to be a little loose. Do you think the thicker and thinner frame part has to be sandwiched in the rubber? I was thinking the lower mount would sit against the loose thin part and solidify it when the bolt is placed
I'm not too sure if I follow your explanation. But these inserts are supposed to fit into the empty voids between the rubber in order to make the who component more solid if that makes sense. There's a slot specifically for the upper mount to go.
Hi @champagne S3 I am wondering if I could get your help. I am installing both Upper & lower mounts. I have the upper insert seated properly, I can not seem to line up the arm to the hole for the main bolt to be inserted. (the one with that will hold the lower insert) when I line that up, the other 2 holes will be unaligned on the arm. I hope that makes sense I hope I can reach out maybe via email to send a couple of pics. I am in a bind and I cant use my car because of the pickle I'm in. any help is appreciated. Thank you!
*IMPORTANT* FYI some of the video is mirrored especially under the car. Always remember the saying "lefty loosey, righty tighty" (spinning a bolt or nut to the left to loosen, and to the right to tighten when you're looking at it straight on)
Very informative and clear. A little edit, it's not nanometer, it's Newton meter.
This is such a great video explaining how this thing works. 034 sells different dogbone parts than some other manufacturers, and it's really unclear which parts are actually needed when you go to buy them. I was content to buy the upper and lower aluminum pieces but I couldn't tell if they had to be installed with the aftermarket arm and pucks too, which would have rocketed it up in price. Good to know that's not the case, definitely gonna pick this up now! Thanks for this great video, definitely earned a sub!
Thank you! Appreciate I'm glad it helped!
Take a drink every time he says dog bone. Hammered. Great vid!
😂🤣😂🤣
It does what it’s supposed to but damn it adds a ton of vibration to the car. Thanks for the vid it made this easy install easier.
I actually only really feel the vibration when going from a stop, as well as when you go into reverse. Aside from that it's not too noticeable in my opinion. Glad the video helped 👍
Just installed this set up on mine and was thinking the same thing. Added lots of vibration. I just did an entire stage 2+ unitronic set up on my A3 so I’m glad this is what is causing the vibration and not something else 😂
Great explanation on why we need dogbone insert!
I got a bunch of 034 parts on my Golf R. They work very well. I have the dogbone right now and am looking to order there street density motor mounts. I was looking at BFI / ECS but have heard bad reviews about vibration.
You and I are in the same boat. Those are my next ones to install. I think it would be a good balance of street/track use
Champagne shoot me a email on the above reply we can chat on there.
@@colinmcdonell5034 I don't see an email address? You got any other social media?
Champagne sorry... it'....
Great vid, thanks for all of the details! And just fyi, N m is Newton meter, nano meter is nm. Looking forward to seeing you crack the 10s!
Oh thanks for the clarification! Geez I'm just not used to using those measurements haha thanks again, and hoping to do a run soon!
Cheers. When doing a video that involves loosening and tightening bolts, it would be really helpful if the image wasn't mirrored.
You're right. I realized after with the front facing camera the video was mirrored. To be fair if someone doesn't know the basics of "lefty loosey, righty tighty" they really shouldn't be working on their own car.
@@ChampagneS3 You'd think so, but when you've been working on Euro cars for a while, you realise sometimes they'll use a reverse threaded bolt to catch out new players. Some of the pulleys and whatnot. Just a thought anyway, not a criticism. All good.
@@samgab same things goes JDM cars for pulleys. But you do have a point, thanks for the feedback!
@@samgab added a comment and pinned it. Thanks for the feedback
Awesome VID man. Thanks for the share
Appreciate it thank you!
wish i had sponsors for my upgrades lol. my next mod though for sure.
Lol! Yeah feel the difference right away with this mod. Definitely something I should have done a long time ago.
Nice!
I know you said it's best to use new bolts, but in the case of re-using the stock bolts, are the torque specs the same? The install guide for the dogbone mount for my 8P says to reuse the stock bolts and torque to 74lb-ft, but the install guide for the upper insert says to use a new bolt and torque to 96lb-ft +90⁰ like you stated in your video
If you absolutely have to you can reuse them.. But they are stretch bolts and more or less are meant for 1 time use. When you get the chance try to replace them at some point down the road.
@@ChampagneS3 I just went ahead and ordered the new bolt kit, wish I would've done that to begin with but like I said their instructions said to reuse the old one! Thanks for the reply!!
The replacement bolts link isn’t working. Any way you can link them?
Thanks for letting me know I'll fix the link
Good video, I just subscribed. I was wondering when you jack up the car, do you need to make sure your car is level when installing? I am going to order these soon and wondering if I can drive my car on ramps to install, but wasn't sure if that angle could cause movement of any components that might affect the install once the bolts are removed? I am doing this on an 2016 S3, I imagine torque specs would be the same?
Thanks for the support! You actually don't, I just raised the front and it's fairly easy to shift the transmission a bit forward to line up the bolt, takes very little force. Obviously if you are able to life both back and front you probably won't need to shift anything to line up the bolt, but to be honest my bolts went in very easily. Torque specs will be the same!
@@ChampagneS3Perfect and thanks for the quick response!
Any extra noise in your build due to this? I had them installed and hear an annoying rattle present up to 60-70mph. Did the shop do something wrong or is this normal?
Rattle? Not that I've noticed it's more or less more vibration thats introduced. That could probably cause more rattle if you had an existing rattle?
Is there any reason the dog bone or bushings would need to be replaced?
If the bushing is torn or the metal is bent. If not, the stock one is fine.
Maybe a dumb question, but why does the car need to be up on axle stands? Why couldnt i just drive it up onto ramps? This is just a motor mount and not connected to any suspension components, right?
When you have the wheels are against something like ramps, it prevents the movement necessary to get the main dogbone bolt aligned.
@@ChampagneS3 interesting. I don't get that though because yes there will be load on the sway bar, but that doesn't have anything to do with the dogbone. And the subframe cross member shouldnt move or flex. But I'll toss it on stands anyway 👍🏻
@@Mike-mz9cm I actually bought ramps just to do this install and quickly realized the aligning issue when I got down there to bolt it together. You're actually pull on the underside of the engine a bit to align the bolt. I'm not exactly sure where load is when it's on ramps but this is the issue I came across when installing
I have both of the same Dog bone inserts, Will these fit the mk7 1.8t?
They should fit most MQB platform vehicles
Did these help with wheel hop? I’m stage 2 and keep getting wheel on when doing launch control
Yes this definitely helps a lot
@@ChampagneS3 should I do just the inserts or the arm as well?
@@SIMPLB9 I personally have just done the inserts. The upper and lower inserts. I haven't gotten the arm but I don't feel its all that necessary. More so the puck replacement (bushing).
I've just got the 034 upper and dog mount insert installed today. Feeling quite a lot of vibration during acceleration and coming to a stop and during light launch. Is this normal and will it go away over time?
There is some vibration that comes from the mod, I wouldn't say it a lot but you mainly feel it in reverse, and leaving from a stop. It is normal
How’s that vibration now? Just installed today
When I installed my upper Dogbone mount, and pushed it all the way in, the lower part seems to be a little loose. Do you think the thicker and thinner frame part has to be sandwiched in the rubber? I was thinking the lower mount would sit against the loose thin part and solidify it when the bolt is placed
I'm not too sure if I follow your explanation. But these inserts are supposed to fit into the empty voids between the rubber in order to make the who component more solid if that makes sense. There's a slot specifically for the upper mount to go.
@@ChampagneS3 I’ll email 034 and see what they say 😅 it’s kinda hard to describe without showing pictures
@@haku107 totally understand. If you have Instagram feel free to hit me up and I will see if I can help somehow
Hi @champagne S3 I am wondering if I could get your help. I am installing both Upper & lower mounts. I have the upper insert seated properly, I can not seem to line up the arm to the hole for the main bolt to be inserted. (the one with that will hold the lower insert) when I line that up, the other 2 holes will be unaligned on the arm. I hope that makes sense I hope I can reach out maybe via email to send a couple of pics. I am in a bind and I cant use my car because of the pickle I'm in. any help is appreciated. Thank you!
Hey definitely I'll try to help out. If you have Instagram send me a DM if not give me your email and I'll reach out to you.
@@ChampagneS3 God Bless! thank you!
Link to the hoodie? Lol
Lol I got it as a Christmas gift was custom made locally haha
link for this hoodie
Sorry don't have a link for it unfortunately. It was made for me locally
5:30 wrong direction 🙈😅
Lol. Check the pinned comment. The video was filmed in selfie mode off my phone which mirrored it
@@ChampagneS3 sorry my bad… at second sight, the numbers of the sticker reveals it 😅
@@MrDeanWinchester86 haha no worries 👍
Champagne shoot me a email and I will shoot you my text number.