Brilliant! You guys did an amazing job, another awesome lesson in fitting. The golfers of Canada are lucky to have access to you...P.S - 'this ain't no hobby', best line of 2022!!!
The word that keeps coming up is “RELATABLE”! Great content lately. Doesn’t mean we don’t like to see Ian rip it and I watch all of Matty’s videos, but this is packed with info we can use when we get to the range and ultimately the course! Well done.
i love seeing these new videos with RB and Mike. they are absolutely more relatable to us mere mortal golfers in the audience. As much as i loved Matty boi on the show, he swung a club at a robotic level that will never be achievable for 99% of your audience. Onwards and upwards 🙌 Loving the new content 👌
Dude. That tip about not worrying about opening the face at ground parallel is game changing. Since I went and got lessons from my local pro I have some better fundamentals but I have struggled with closing the face consistently because he has me opening it straight up. I will be trying out the cupped wrists thing next time I go to the range. This is why I watch this channel.
This was world class. Well done TXG team! It’s funny, I went in to get fit for T100S and Pro 223 this week. It was a coin flip but I ultimately went with the Pro 223 head with Modus3 Tour 120 shaft. I preferred the compact shape and feel/feedback of the T100S but the ever so slightly larger head of the Pro 223 gave me just a little more piece of mind in the forgiveness department. A combo T100S/T200 set would have been awesome though.
Hi I am so glad I saw this video, I have been single figure handicap for 57 years and have similar technique issues as your man. After employing the wrist under tip on the takeaway shot 2 over yesterday and struck irons beautifully and gained 11yds carry per iron. Many thanks Ian, you have a new subscriber from Surrey England
I can say from experience, when Ian drops a couple of tips into a fit, listen! My swing improved measurably just by him showing me a better turn into my back swing.
I'm surprised you tried the ZX5 since he is shallow. I didn't think the v sole worked well for shallow attack angles. Did flattening the lie move his contact from the heel to be more central?
Coming out of a TPI assessment, it was good to see how Ian responded to Ryan’s physical limitation. Not everyone is physically able to get into “ideal” positions.
Hey guys, if one is trying to switch from a fade to a draw on irons, what are considered good path and closure numbers? My initial session I went from a few degrees left to like 7 to 10 degrees in to out and I think that might be a bit much.
Man it would be awesome to get a fitting by you all. Here it just seems like the “fitters” push P790s and higher end clubs w.o taking my swing style or characteristics into consideration!
Like someone else I saw in the comments, I had a similar delivery and dynamic loft and had made a similar change (and strengthened my grip some eventually and flattened my lie angles); and it most certainly similarly benefited me. But I know I'm still leaving some on the table with my current irons, so it was great not just to see what they tried and what worked for Ryan, but more so to hear the explanations of the why. I know I might reach a somewhat different outcome given all the variables, but the insights are so helpful in a general sense as I look to get fit with irons to better compliment my own (in this case very similar) delivery. Thank you Ian, Mike and Ryan.
I knew that the club face had to be parallel to the spine angle on the back swing, but to see Ian demonstrate it with someone was gold. That's me hitting it high and short, hopefully this can be addressed at my fitting in March.
Interesting fitting! Currently playing Apex cf16 stiff kbs shafts, great clubs. A bad back dictates an upgrade, Apex 21 are they much better, Rogue st Pro, Mizuno 225s and other choices? Can you please run a bracket in this category, it would be enormously helpful!
Great now I want to get fitted ASAP and see if I can get similar results! Very similar issues to Ryan high floaty misses, don’t want swing changes. Purely maintenance! Just when I thought I was done for golf equipment for 2022 I watch this video. I’m not even mad, excited!
Great fitting session ! I always loved your low, mid, high fitting content the most. Ryan and I has undergone almost the same swing change. Flight an lenght characterstics is also the same, so I'm superstoked to try out the same group of irons for my new set. I have an "ancient" set of now. Right up my alley.
I have been waiting for a video on this topic for SO LONG! I’ve always struggled with the high floater and windy conditions are my worst nightmare. I will definitely be making similar changes to my swing the way Ian did to Ryans. Would love some T100S irons as well but that might be a little further down the road. Thank you for the content guys!
Hugely helpful. I imagine the folks at TXG would recommend having a clear intention for your fit, know your miss, your path and face tendencies and how you're hoping technology will help. Been working on the exact same swing changes as Ryan here, you can tell he's the low handicapper though by how quickly he was able to go 4.5 out to in to 1.8 in to out in just one swing! For us average bears, more of a journey.
Looks like I just had my virtual fit. Struggle with same issues of forearms rolling over and hitting a high weak shot but predictable. Also have similar grip and just like Ian said very hard to change it! Will try the glove hand down drill and need to get me some t100s and Amt! Also love that shaft in other sets. As a shallow player I have also noticed do better with thin soled clubs like p750 which I use now. T100s seems like a good fit! Great video.
Love the tip about creating a little pressure in the forearm as a checkpoint to measure that wrist position in the takeaway. Something that personally think I can use. Brilliant
Ian, this was amazing and I would love to get a fitting done. Unfortunately I live in Florida. Where would you recommend I go in Florida to get.this level of fit?
I am only half way through video and this is already one of my favorite videos on UA-cam. All subject included. Ian has scholarly advice that is articulated with best friend intentions. Well done boys.
Thank you Colton. I was very fortunate to have some seriously smart people around me when I came into the golf industry. They showed me the standard that I need to reach to be a leader in the industry.
@@clubchampionmedia you sir have reached that standard. Keep doing what your doing. Iv only been golfing for almost 3 years now and I've picked up so much from you guys I love all the numbers and analytics. With golf growing the way it is you guys are so important. Please open up a shop in the states!
@@clubchampionmedia Ian, Onneof my favorite TXG vids. It'd be interesting to see Mike go through the fitting process as well because if I recall, his ball flight is opposite of RB's right? Has trouble with low shots and holding greens? I have selfish reasons as I used to have RB's flight, made the same changes you've shown in the video and tend to have lower flight, lower spin and balls aren't holding greens like they used to.
So I have a simillar issue to Ryan here where I hit high spinny cuts (19 launch, 8800 spin 7 iron) for everything with a path about 3 degrees out to in and an open face. I am trying to make a similar adjustment to get into out and lower my ball flight. Do you guys have any suggestions on swing thouigts our drills for making that adjustment?
19 launch for a 7 iron isn’t so bad. The 8800 spin is incredibly weird. Bring your shaft parallel to the ground and look in the mirror, is your club head the same as your spine angle or open? You may also be taking the club on the inside too much.
Interesting results with his mp20 mmc. My swing speed is a touch slower than his, and my jpx 919 tour is lofted weaker, 30° 6 iron. My carry is usually 182-185. But it comes down to your impact, my hands are always well forward of the ball at contact, effectively delofting the club.
Love the video, so relatable swing wise. I was fit for both T100S and 225's and went Mizuno mostly on the basis of confidence in the head size as the Titleist do look a bit intimidating in the lower irons and I couldn't get my head round the plastic back on the T200 for a combo set. Having to change to graphite due to joint issues so really looking forward to the blue box day in a week or so. Much as I love watching Ian and Matty its nice too see someone who swings similar to myself and what the right fit and a little tip can do for you. Great job guys, can you do the same for the driver? Feel like I'm really missing out there so be great to see a similar video on driver/fairway for RB. More of this type of video please, great advert for TXG and as help for us mortals.
Love that Ian kept trying more clubs after the t100s. It shows he really cares about improving, regardless of brand, and even by the smallest margins. Shows a real passion for achieving data backed results rather than a commission check. Makes me want to save up and fly to Canada just to get fit.
I Baloon every Club and I fractured my Left Wrist ,Compound had Wrist reconstructed No Cartilage in Wrist was Struck by Softball Pitching against Big Dudes which hit me Causing Fracture ,Put in traction,Lost pow er for about an year but got it Back!
More than likely would be similar to MP 223’s in terms of turf interaction maybe even worse since the sole is thicker and probably would have flew too high on good strikes.
One of your best videos. I am a low handicapper coming back from two knee replacements. Your points are dead on. Too bad you are so far away from phoenix Az. Ever think of opening a 2nd location here? Cheers!
Would like to have seen the ZX7 in the mix since RB was doing better with the characteristics of the players cavity vs players distance heads. I know you can’t try everything, just would’ve been interesting to see how ZX7 performs instead, especially since low spin seemed to be the main complaint with ZX5.
The only thing that bothered me about this video was his gamer iron numbers. Of course ball speed and carry is going to be higher when you go from hitting a spiny fade to a draw
This has been the most helpful video ever for me! I have very similar swing speed to RB and have had similar delivery issues with my irons. I used these tips and applied them to my swing and instantly started striking my irons better. I can’t wait for better weather to see the results on the course! Great work guys! I love the channel and Mike and RB are a great combo!
Hey man, same boat here. Could you mind explaining exactly what you started doing differently or implemented after watching the video? I just can't grasp the video that well I'm sorey
Very nice video, I'm looking for a new set for me so I found this at the right time: I know that this is a old video, but what does "low handicap" mean in this case? I only play on the courses which are 5600-5800meters long and after 14 years of golf, I managed to get my handicap in to single figures (WHS system 9.2) I also had that same wrist angle problem, fortunately I got it fixed with a help of local pro.
I’d highly suggest some Mike Malaska videos to help find your “natural” grip. I went to a much stronger grip this yr and immediately 20-20yds longer BUT you Will shank a few if you do not aggressively get onto your front foot. (Blades)
As fun as it is to watch Matt crush the ball, RB is like spot on my swing speed. Loving how much more relatable the videos have been with RB and Mikey!
For golfers who need maximum shock absorption and who want a heavier shaft that has a “steel-like feel and performance “, I have been creating my own version of the AMT concept by using the KBS TGI graphite shafts, beginning with the 80, 90, or 95 gram shafts in the longest irons (depending on the golfer’s strength and clubhead speed) and progressing to TGI 100 or 110 in their wedges. I have done this for myself (TGI 80 in the 5 through 9 irons, TGI 90 in my PW, and TGI 95 to 100 in my more lofted wedges), and it works great. I like the AMT steel for Ryan, as long as it doesn’t exacerbate the elbow pain.
I have wondered for a while about the philosophy of handicap-influenced fitting. I am 62, and carry a 5.8 handicap. I got there playing game-improvement clubs. What is the benefit of playing less friendly equipment just because my handicap is low? Wouldn't that just make the game harder?
RB is literally me. Low HC. 6i swing speed low 90s. High weak flight and severely lacking distance considering my swing speed. Out to in path. This video was gold.
Question: I was fitting for Titleist T300 with the AMT Red shaft. and they are fantastic. I came across some, at a great price, T200 with AMT Black shafts. My question is I'm a 5 HDCP with a very low ball flight and it seem to me with the T300 my gap between 8 iron and 7 iron is very wide and the feel from 8 to PW is more erratic than with the ZX7's I had previously. Do you think it might be better to try and make a combo set out of the T200 and the T330? Thank you, look forward to hearing about this.
Just let Ian do these on his own. He is so knowledgeable, professional, and would never utter the phrase “hear the air leaving the ball.” So leave him alone, let him do what I believe, is the best in the business. I’ve been in the business over 35 years. Sometimes I ask myself, “What would Ian do?”
Ryan, it looks like you borrowed my swing! I’m probably 2.5x your age, and hit my 6-iron maybe 5 to 7 yards shorter than you do, but my impact, launch, and ball flight are virtually identical to yours. Just like your one miss with your current 6-iron, when I do miss it generally results in a pull that travels 15 to 20 yards further than expected.
Odd this could have been me a couple of years ago. I mangled my lead wrist at university - you know its bad when the doctor tells you they haven't seen that type of injury for a long time (either that or you have some very "original" bedroom habits!) - the net result is that 35 years later I still have flexibility issues. Like RB my grip was a bit weak. Coach got me to imagine I was using a DJ bowed wrist, it felt so weird and I definitely thought I was bowing the wrist like DJ...then he showed me what was actually happening on video, absolutely no bow, but also no cupping of the wrist. That really straightened out my iron shots. Admittedly I cannot swing the club as fast as RB, his 6i swing is c.8-9mph faster than me and as I carry the ball c.160-165 yards with a 6i he should be carrying 185 yards.
Atta boy RB! See like I said, just a couple swing adjustments more than full blown tear down and rebuild. Instantly 20 yards extra, you’re compressing the ball and not relying on as much timing to get the ball near the hole.
Tempo is so quick. I tend to shank if i swing that fast. Coming from the inside can be bad if you overdo it and don’t make other adjustments. Great video.
I can totally relate! "Struggle in the wind", struggle with high floaty shots, even though I have plenty of club head speed. I've been a functional flipper for ever. Using a stronger grip, or bowing the wrist was a panacea at first. And then other days, I'm all over the place and revert back to my floaty, but accurate flip.
Like RB, I suffer from high ball flight and excessive spin. Our speeds are almost identical and the results are much like looking in a mirror. I was very excited to see how much the results improved after the change in take away and wrist angle. That will be my next point to try at the range. Lastly, as a Mizuno player myself I was a little saddened to see RB didn't end up with the 223! Good stuff boys.
Did he say that he struggled with trail wrist radial/extension? If so would strengthening the left hand not be a better grip to reduce the extra required trail wrist extension in backswing needed when going into large amounts of lead wrist flexion?And this may then mean he doesn't need to close the face down so hard in the release? Or is there a reason would struggle physically to have a stronger left hand grip?
Great vid. Fun to watch. To your final point.... I have the opposite issue. Feel good about irons distance, but my driver may fall shorter at times than my 3 wood.
Good tips about grip, hand, and club face orientation at setup and backswing. It seemed like he was hitting out of the heel of the clubface most of the fitting (obviously costing strike efficiency and distance). After going flatter clubhead lie his contact location improved, and as a result his ball speed and distance. It seemed like a disservice to the other clubs to not test them with equally flatter lie angles and see if contact and distance improved on them as well. Why did you choose to do the lie angle fitting late in the process instead of in the early part?
Top fit and top advice. Small tips like that is absolutely perfect. I’m working on the very same thing just now and it’s paying dividends. Great to see such a big difference in RB’s fit. Top job and keep the fits like that coming. 🤙
Wondering if Ian could explain the clubface and path changes he had RB make in a little more detail as it would help so many golfers out there as open clubface and out to in path are the most common issues out there.
Get video! As a new fitter, this hit a sweet spot for me. A lot of people want to get fit for clubs but really need instruction before a true fit can be done. I’m not a certified instructor so it’s hard to get into the instruction side of the fit.
If Ian wasn’t a fitter, he’d be a top tier coach.
I came to the comments section just for this 👍🏻
Agreed
Thank you Jon!! 🙏🏻
100%
The combination of swing coach, technology and fitting knowledge is why Ian is by far the best fitter out there. It’s why fitting is art and science.
Brilliant! You guys did an amazing job, another awesome lesson in fitting. The golfers of Canada are lucky to have access to you...P.S - 'this ain't no hobby', best line of 2022!!!
Ian hit us with the Kevin Kisner swag hahaha
The word that keeps coming up is “RELATABLE”! Great content lately. Doesn’t mean we don’t like to see Ian rip it and I watch all of Matty’s videos, but this is packed with info we can use when we get to the range and ultimately the course! Well done.
"This aint no hobby, RB..."
Amazingly appropriate. Love it as always, keep it up. 👍
i love seeing these new videos with RB and Mike.
they are absolutely more relatable to us mere mortal golfers in the audience.
As much as i loved Matty boi on the show, he swung a club at a robotic level that will never be achievable for 99% of your audience.
Onwards and upwards 🙌
Loving the new content 👌
Agreed!
Agree
Dude. That tip about not worrying about opening the face at ground parallel is game changing. Since I went and got lessons from my local pro I have some better fundamentals but I have struggled with closing the face consistently because he has me opening it straight up. I will be trying out the cupped wrists thing next time I go to the range. This is why I watch this channel.
It’s not a cupped wrist, that’s the opposite, it’s called wrist Flexion or a bowed wrist. Just good to know which is which
Ian "The Glasgow Ranger" Fraser. One of the best in the game no doubt. Blue Chip Fitter, Blue Chip Player.
This was world class. Well done TXG team! It’s funny, I went in to get fit for T100S and Pro 223 this week. It was a coin flip but I ultimately went with the Pro 223 head with Modus3 Tour 120 shaft. I preferred the compact shape and feel/feedback of the T100S but the ever so slightly larger head of the Pro 223 gave me just a little more piece of mind in the forgiveness department. A combo T100S/T200 set would have been awesome though.
Going in tomorrow to get fitted either for the APEX PRO ‘21 or MIZUNO PRO 225 irons, also tending towards the Modus 2 Tour 120 shaft. 👍🏻
I do have to wonder if the average customer would just fall back into their old swing and now be fit for improper clubs
Hi I am so glad I saw this video, I have been single figure handicap for 57 years and have similar technique issues as your man. After employing the wrist under tip on the takeaway shot 2 over yesterday and struck irons beautifully and gained 11yds carry per iron. Many thanks Ian, you have a new subscriber from Surrey England
I feel like yelling “Matty” in the comments should have the same connotation as yelling “Brooksie” to Bryson.
I can say from experience, when Ian drops a couple of tips into a fit, listen!
My swing improved measurably just by him showing me a better turn into my back swing.
I'm surprised you tried the ZX5 since he is shallow. I didn't think the v sole worked well for shallow attack angles. Did flattening the lie move his contact from the heel to be more central?
Love how sole width gets a mention on TXG videos yet gets overlooked by most fitters
That amongst other things. There are layers of details missed in most fittings I’ve witnessed.
I thought the protest was over? Bring Matty Boy back already!
Rb can land a pinnacle in a parking lot
Coming out of a TPI assessment, it was good to see how Ian responded to Ryan’s physical limitation. Not everyone is physically able to get into “ideal” positions.
“This ain’t no hobby “ love the reference to Kiz haha
Hey guys, if one is trying to switch from a fade to a draw on irons, what are considered good path and closure numbers? My initial session I went from a few degrees left to like 7 to 10 degrees in to out and I think that might be a bit much.
Man it would be awesome to get a fitting by you all. Here it just seems like the “fitters” push P790s and higher end clubs w.o taking my swing style or characteristics into consideration!
Like someone else I saw in the comments, I had a similar delivery and dynamic loft and had made a similar change (and strengthened my grip some eventually and flattened my lie angles); and it most certainly similarly benefited me. But I know I'm still leaving some on the table with my current irons, so it was great not just to see what they tried and what worked for Ryan, but more so to hear the explanations of the why. I know I might reach a somewhat different outcome given all the variables, but the insights are so helpful in a general sense as I look to get fit with irons to better compliment my own (in this case very similar) delivery. Thank you Ian, Mike and Ryan.
Is this consistent with all fittings at TXG? That you'll get some swing help along with a great fitting?
“This ain’t to hobby RB” haha quote of the video
Noticed a lot of RB’s strikes were towards the heel. Could this be fixed by adjusting shaft length?
I knew that the club face had to be parallel to the spine angle on the back swing, but to see Ian demonstrate it with someone was gold. That's me hitting it high and short, hopefully this can be addressed at my fitting in March.
I tried this on the indoor range today and couldn't stop hooking the ball. Will need more practice.
Interesting fitting! Currently playing Apex cf16 stiff kbs shafts, great clubs. A bad back dictates an upgrade, Apex 21 are they much better, Rogue st Pro, Mizuno 225s and other choices? Can you please run a bracket in this category, it would be enormously helpful!
One of the better fittings I’ve seen on the channel. Great adjustment and then the strike and the numbers don’t lie.
Fantastic. I have the same distance loss with my irons... high, straight floaters... to the range I go!
First 10mins of this video is great. Where technique and clubs meet
Great now I want to get fitted ASAP and see if I can get similar results! Very similar issues to Ryan high floaty misses, don’t want swing changes. Purely maintenance! Just when I thought I was done for golf equipment for 2022 I watch this video. I’m not even mad, excited!
Great fitting session ! I always loved your low, mid, high fitting content the most. Ryan and I has undergone almost the same swing change. Flight an lenght characterstics is also the same, so I'm superstoked to try out the same group of irons for my new set. I have an "ancient" set of now. Right up my alley.
Bring back Matt blois
Why don’t more shaft companies offer something similar to the AMT?
Ian hit us with the Kevin Kisner swag, this ain't no hobby!!
I have been waiting for a video on this topic for SO LONG! I’ve always struggled with the high floater and windy conditions are my worst nightmare. I will definitely be making similar changes to my swing the way Ian did to Ryans. Would love some T100S irons as well but that might be a little further down the road. Thank you for the content guys!
Hugely helpful. I imagine the folks at TXG would recommend having a clear intention for your fit, know your miss, your path and face tendencies and how you're hoping technology will help. Been working on the exact same swing changes as Ryan here, you can tell he's the low handicapper though by how quickly he was able to go 4.5 out to in to 1.8 in to out in just one swing! For us average bears, more of a journey.
Looks like I just had my virtual fit. Struggle with same issues of forearms rolling over and hitting a high weak shot but predictable. Also have similar grip and just like Ian said very hard to change it! Will try the glove hand down drill and need to get me some t100s and Amt! Also love that shaft in other sets. As a shallow player I have also noticed do better with thin soled clubs like p750 which I use now. T100s seems like a good fit! Great video.
Love the tip about creating a little pressure in the forearm as a checkpoint to measure that wrist position in the takeaway. Something that personally think I can use. Brilliant
Ian, this was amazing and I would love to get a fitting done. Unfortunately I live in Florida. Where would you recommend I go in Florida to get.this level of fit?
to tampa or orlando airport and catch a flight to txg would be my recommendation
I am only half way through video and this is already one of my favorite videos on UA-cam. All subject included. Ian has scholarly advice that is articulated with best friend intentions. Well done boys.
"This ain't no hobby, RB..."
Next time I hit a good shot I’m saying that to my buds. They aren’t going to have a clue what I’m talking about, but I will laugh my rear end off.
Awesome. Your videos over the last week are hitting it out of the range for me. Great stuff! We need you in Western Canada!!!
The sheer amount of knowledge Ian has is wild. Especially when you realize how young he is.
Thank you Colton. I was very fortunate to have some seriously smart people around me when I came into the golf industry. They showed me the standard that I need to reach to be a leader in the industry.
@@clubchampionmedia you sir have reached that standard. Keep doing what your doing. Iv only been golfing for almost 3 years now and I've picked up so much from you guys I love all the numbers and analytics. With golf growing the way it is you guys are so important. Please open up a shop in the states!
@@clubchampionmedia Ian, Onneof my favorite TXG vids. It'd be interesting to see Mike go through the fitting process as well because if I recall, his ball flight is opposite of RB's right? Has trouble with low shots and holding greens?
I have selfish reasons as I used to have RB's flight, made the same changes you've shown in the video and tend to have lower flight, lower spin and balls aren't holding greens like they used to.
It's called "passion".
So I have a simillar issue to Ryan here where I hit high spinny cuts (19 launch, 8800 spin 7 iron) for everything with a path about 3 degrees out to in and an open face. I am trying to make a similar adjustment to get into out and lower my ball flight. Do you guys have any suggestions on swing thouigts our drills for making that adjustment?
Those launch characteristics are with x100 shafts.
19 launch for a 7 iron isn’t so bad. The 8800 spin is incredibly weird.
Bring your shaft parallel to the ground and look in the mirror, is your club head the same as your spine angle or open? You may also be taking the club on the inside too much.
Canadian winters aren't so bad in beautiful British Columbia 🙂
Interesting results with his mp20 mmc. My swing speed is a touch slower than his, and my jpx 919 tour is lofted weaker, 30° 6 iron. My carry is usually 182-185. But it comes down to your impact, my hands are always well forward of the ball at contact, effectively delofting the club.
"This ain't no hobby" - love it
Love the video, so relatable swing wise. I was fit for both T100S and 225's and went Mizuno mostly on the basis of confidence in the head size as the Titleist do look a bit intimidating in the lower irons and I couldn't get my head round the plastic back on the T200 for a combo set. Having to change to graphite due to joint issues so really looking forward to the blue box day in a week or so. Much as I love watching Ian and Matty its nice too see someone who swings similar to myself and what the right fit and a little tip can do for you. Great job guys, can you do the same for the driver? Feel like I'm really missing out there so be great to see a similar video on driver/fairway for RB. More of this type of video please, great advert for TXG and as help for us mortals.
Love that Ian kept trying more clubs after the t100s. It shows he really cares about improving, regardless of brand, and even by the smallest margins. Shows a real passion for achieving data backed results rather than a commission check. Makes me want to save up and fly to Canada just to get fit.
"this ain't no hobby..." - Love it!
@ian, love the nod to Kis "this aint no hobby"
I Baloon every Club and I fractured my Left Wrist ,Compound had Wrist reconstructed No Cartilage in Wrist was Struck by Softball Pitching against Big Dudes which hit me Causing Fracture ,Put in traction,Lost pow er for about an year but got it Back!
Woulda loved to see how T200 compared to T100s for Ryan
More than likely would be similar to MP 223’s in terms of turf interaction maybe even worse since the sole is thicker and probably would have flew too high on good strikes.
One of your best videos. I am a low handicapper coming back from two knee replacements. Your points are dead on. Too bad you are so far away from phoenix Az. Ever think of opening a 2nd location here? Cheers!
Would like to have seen the ZX7 in the mix since RB was doing better with the characteristics of the players cavity vs players distance heads. I know you can’t try everything, just would’ve been interesting to see how ZX7 performs instead, especially since low spin seemed to be the main complaint with ZX5.
Same.
I have the AMT red shafts. Love them
The only thing that bothered me about this video was his gamer iron numbers. Of course ball speed and carry is going to be higher when you go from hitting a spiny fade to a draw
AMT White or Black? Seems like he would be a good fit for Black coming from Elevate.
Ian you're not allowed to wear those shoes in videos anymore....it was quite hard to concentrate 😅 🔥
Best coaching and fitting I’ve seen. Wow so interesting. Wish I could afford to go see them.
This has been the most helpful video ever for me! I have very similar swing speed to RB and have had similar delivery issues with my irons. I used these tips and applied them to my swing and instantly started striking my irons better. I can’t wait for better weather to see the results on the course! Great work guys! I love the channel and Mike and RB are a great combo!
Hey man, same boat here. Could you mind explaining exactly what you started doing differently or implemented after watching the video? I just can't grasp the video that well I'm sorey
Ian is a really good fitter partly because he's a good teacher too
Absolutely love the shoes Ian as on what brand are they please .?
Did it bother you that his strike location was so far in the heel.
Very nice video, I'm looking for a new set for me so I found this at the right time:
I know that this is a old video, but what does "low handicap" mean in this case?
I only play on the courses which are 5600-5800meters long and after 14 years of golf, I managed to get my handicap in to single figures (WHS system 9.2)
I also had that same wrist angle problem, fortunately I got it fixed with a help of local pro.
I’d highly suggest some Mike Malaska videos to help find your “natural” grip. I went to a much stronger grip this yr and immediately 20-20yds longer BUT you Will shank a few if you do not aggressively get onto your front foot. (Blades)
As fun as it is to watch Matt crush the ball, RB is like spot on my swing speed. Loving how much more relatable the videos have been with RB and Mikey!
part of this guys problem is he's CONSISTANTLY out of the heel of the club.
For golfers who need maximum shock absorption and who want a heavier shaft that has a “steel-like feel and performance “, I have been creating my own version of the AMT concept by using the KBS TGI graphite shafts, beginning with the 80, 90, or 95 gram shafts in the longest irons (depending on the golfer’s strength and clubhead speed) and progressing to TGI 100 or 110 in their wedges. I have done this for myself (TGI 80 in the 5 through 9 irons, TGI 90 in my PW, and TGI 95 to 100 in my more lofted wedges), and it works great. I like the AMT steel for Ryan, as long as it doesn’t exacerbate the elbow pain.
This is 100% me. Great video, cheers lads.
What’s the name of the simulator you are using?
I have wondered for a while about the philosophy of handicap-influenced fitting. I am 62, and carry a 5.8 handicap. I got there playing game-improvement clubs. What is the benefit of playing less friendly equipment just because my handicap is low? Wouldn't that just make the game harder?
RB is literally me. Low HC. 6i swing speed low 90s. High weak flight and severely lacking distance considering my swing speed. Out to in path. This video was gold.
Ian, I have a question! This wrist “under” technique, should that be my takeaway from driver thru lob wedge for full shots? Half shots? Short game?
Question: I was fitting for Titleist T300 with the AMT Red shaft. and they are fantastic. I came across some, at a great price, T200 with AMT Black shafts. My question is I'm a 5 HDCP with a very low ball flight and it seem to me with the T300 my gap between 8 iron and 7 iron is very wide and the feel from 8 to PW is more erratic than with the ZX7's I had previously. Do you think it might be better to try and make a combo set out of the T200 and the T330? Thank you, look forward to hearing about this.
Great vids. Ian is certainly a leader in the business
Just let Ian do these on his own. He is so knowledgeable, professional, and would never utter the phrase “hear the air leaving the ball.”
So leave him alone, let him do what I believe, is the best in the business.
I’ve been in the business over 35 years. Sometimes I ask myself, “What would Ian do?”
Ryan, it looks like you borrowed my swing! I’m probably 2.5x your age, and hit my 6-iron maybe 5 to 7 yards shorter than you do, but my impact, launch, and ball flight are virtually identical to yours. Just like your one miss with your current 6-iron, when I do miss it generally results in a pull that travels 15 to 20 yards further than expected.
Odd this could have been me a couple of years ago. I mangled my lead wrist at university - you know its bad when the doctor tells you they haven't seen that type of injury for a long time (either that or you have some very "original" bedroom habits!) - the net result is that 35 years later I still have flexibility issues. Like RB my grip was a bit weak. Coach got me to imagine I was using a DJ bowed wrist, it felt so weird and I definitely thought I was bowing the wrist like DJ...then he showed me what was actually happening on video, absolutely no bow, but also no cupping of the wrist. That really straightened out my iron shots.
Admittedly I cannot swing the club as fast as RB, his 6i swing is c.8-9mph faster than me and as I carry the ball c.160-165 yards with a 6i he should be carrying 185 yards.
Atta boy RB! See like I said, just a couple swing adjustments more than full blown tear down and rebuild. Instantly 20 yards extra, you’re compressing the ball and not relying on as much timing to get the ball near the hole.
Who and where is the best fitter in the Inland Empire/Orange county/Palm Desert area of So Cal? Thanks for any suggestions!
Tempo is so quick. I tend to shank if i swing that fast. Coming from the inside can be bad if you overdo it and don’t make other adjustments. Great video.
I can totally relate! "Struggle in the wind", struggle with high floaty shots, even though I have plenty of club head speed. I've been a functional flipper for ever. Using a stronger grip, or bowing the wrist was a panacea at first. And then other days, I'm all over the place and revert back to my floaty, but accurate flip.
Like RB, I suffer from high ball flight and excessive spin. Our speeds are almost identical and the results are much like looking in a mirror. I was very excited to see how much the results improved after the change in take away and wrist angle. That will be my next point to try at the range. Lastly, as a Mizuno player myself I was a little saddened to see RB didn't end up with the 223! Good stuff boys.
Did he say that he struggled with trail wrist radial/extension? If so would strengthening the left hand not be a better grip to reduce the extra required trail wrist extension in backswing needed when going into large amounts of lead wrist flexion?And this may then mean he doesn't need to close the face down so hard in the release? Or is there a reason would struggle physically to have a stronger left hand grip?
Is there any reason you didn’t try him in X stiff? Being 90-93mph? Surely that would help lower ball flight and less dynamic loft?
Great vid. Fun to watch. To your final point.... I have the opposite issue. Feel good about irons distance, but my driver may fall shorter at times than my 3 wood.
Good tips about grip, hand, and club face orientation at setup and backswing. It seemed like he was hitting out of the heel of the clubface most of the fitting (obviously costing strike efficiency and distance). After going flatter clubhead lie his contact location improved, and as a result his ball speed and distance. It seemed like a disservice to the other clubs to not test them with equally flatter lie angles and see if contact and distance improved on them as well. Why did you choose to do the lie angle fitting late in the process instead of in the early part?
Top fit and top advice. Small tips like that is absolutely perfect. I’m working on the very same thing just now and it’s paying dividends. Great to see such a big difference in RB’s fit. Top job and keep the fits like that coming. 🤙
I would love to have you fit my clubs!!!! Absolutely amazing combination of swing coach and fitter!!!
Ryan..I’m sure you know you can still get after market TT Sensicores (VSS) and install in the TT AMT shafts. I did that with my last set of AMTs
nice to see Mikey and RB doing the testing since they are mere mortals like most of us.
For me, slightly strengthening the left hand is not near as difficult or uncomfortable as feeling a rolling, tuck sensation on the takeaway.
Wondering if Ian could explain the clubface and path changes he had RB make in a little more detail as it would help so many golfers out there as open clubface and out to in path are the most common issues out there.
Actually as a follow up to this, for someone like RB and his characteristics, what ball would you recommend?
Ian knows his sh%t, that is for sure! If I had the means, I would fly from So Florida to Canada for a fitting.
So relieved RB ended up with mizuno 223s. I bet he was trying his little heart out so he didn't have to put the titleist in the bag!🤣
What happened to RB needing VSS or graphite? Why wasn't this addressed in Iron recommendations?
Get video! As a new fitter, this hit a sweet spot for me. A lot of people want to get fit for clubs but really need instruction before a true fit can be done. I’m not a certified instructor so it’s hard to get into the instruction side of the fit.