Pistols vs Concrete Blocks .22lr .380acp 9mm .40s&w .45acp

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  • @jameysmith2043
    @jameysmith2043 2 роки тому +275

    Good stuff!
    I know .40 gets a lot of "hate", but, it is my favorite carry caliber...

    • @bdr32965
      @bdr32965 2 роки тому +56

      I don't understand why .40 S&W gets so much hate, it's a very effective round to be honest. But haters are gonna hate. Heck, I love my Glock 22 almost as much as my Glock 20.

    • @Valorius
      @Valorius 2 роки тому +25

      @@bdr32965 it gets hate because it was a compromise cartridge for people who could not decide between 9 mm and 45.

    • @bdr32965
      @bdr32965 2 роки тому +54

      @@Valorius actually it isn't truly a compromise cartridge between 9mm and .45 ACP, it was a compromise of its bigger brother 10mm. The FBI wanted to switch to 10mm after the Miami Dade shootout in the mid 80's because they felt that 9mm and .38 Special wasn't effective at stopping a target, the only problem was that many of the agents could not handle the extra recoil of the 10mm. The idea was to cut down the case of the 10mm to give a bit better recoil control to make it easier to handle. In this day and age due to improvements in bullet technology 9mm can be a capable round, but still, .40 S&W can outperform 9mm in penetration and it does have a flatter trajectory than 9mm.

    • @Valorius
      @Valorius 2 роки тому

      @@bdr32965 I am familiar with how the whole history of ammo and guns was altered by one freakish outlier shoot out.
      If the feds wanted deep penetration and a controllable round they could've just adopted 45 ACP. But they wanted high capacity too. Boom....the 10mm then the weaker 40 S&W was born...as a compromise between 45 and 9mm.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому +13

      @Freedom - These days they could just adopt the extreme defender lehigh bullet in any caliber and there you go...

  • @adrpals2324
    @adrpals2324 2 роки тому +226

    I personally like the 9mm but the .40 and .45 results were very impressive.

    • @spicydiarrhea5662
      @spicydiarrhea5662 Рік тому +30

      I personally like the price of .22 lr

    • @AwaisAli-vs7su
      @AwaisAli-vs7su Рік тому +5

      But in ammo carrying capacity and accuracy point of view 9mm and.30 is far better than that caliber's

    • @nickbolognaesq
      @nickbolognaesq Рік тому +5

      I agree. I prefer 9. But the results do speak for themselves!

    • @BlueberryStinkFinger62
      @BlueberryStinkFinger62 Рік тому +3

      The 9mm using only 115gr that's not a good round that's a training Round..I use in my 9mms Buffalo bore 147gr +p hard cast and seismic 185gr Rounds huge difference..

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  Рік тому +10

      @Davy - 115gr is higher velocity lol. The lighter the bullet is, the faster it will go with the same powder charge behind it...

  • @saleemsuliman3062
    @saleemsuliman3062 2 роки тому +58

    The 40 and 9mils never disappoints

  • @jamesyoung5610
    @jamesyoung5610 2 роки тому +604

    22lr is for training/plinking by many but if it can down a deer, it can and will down a bad guy. Not replacing a 9mm by any means but only fools laugh at a 22lr imo. Great comparison between these popular calibers!

    • @pabloescobar7802
      @pabloescobar7802 2 роки тому +80

      .22 is vastly underestimated and very lethal ... not ideal for self defense but it’s definitely sufficient...

    • @themashedavenger5461
      @themashedavenger5461 2 роки тому +15

      @@pabloescobar7802 they are also available in a bunch of different configurations, the rounds he used were "high velocity" 40grain copper plated lead @1255fps (prob less from pistol), you can get "hyper velocity" 40grains (like a cci stinger) which are around 1400-1500fps and then stuff like the CCI coppers which while alot lighter are also alot harder and are advertised as ~1800+fps, i think they would be a very interesting comparison.

    • @ronhunt9396
      @ronhunt9396 2 роки тому +4

      I agree 100%

    • @chrisdamico6719
      @chrisdamico6719 2 роки тому +34

      Haven't seen many people volunteer to take a round when they 'poo-poo' any of the smaller calibers. ;)

    • @randyrush9856
      @randyrush9856 2 роки тому +18

      Yep, that Richard Ramirez, a.k.a the "Night Stalker", killed six of his victims using a 22 cal. revolver, and another three more while using a 25 acp pistol.

  • @ryanbliley4737
    @ryanbliley4737 2 роки тому +71

    Big .40 fan myself. Nice demonstration of caliber differences.

  • @Vernonu9
    @Vernonu9 2 роки тому +16

    Emotional damage for .40 the haters.

  • @jimwilliams3517
    @jimwilliams3517 Рік тому +10

    Those were some great comparisons there bro.. Don't worry about missing here and there or about things not going quite right all the time. These things happen and we all understand completely. You did a great job in those comparisons. I came here to do some "shopping." I'll be buying a new carry gun soon and wanted to see what you had. After watching you and some other guys, so far, I'm sold on the .40 and you helped me make that choice. And for that I thank you. Keep pluggin' away bro.

    • @olivierlavigne7311
      @olivierlavigne7311 11 місяців тому +1

      Le 9 luger de 115 grain et 147 grain n'ont que des avantages plus léger plus de cartouches plus de pénétration un pouvoir d'arrêt excellent 147 grain flat nose etc etc heureusement que les européens vous ont tout appris citez moi une chose que vous ayez créée sans l'avoir au préalable volé

  • @williambarnes4612
    @williambarnes4612 2 роки тому +32

    Love the 40 and respect for the others 👍🏻

  • @aaronmeeks1155
    @aaronmeeks1155 2 роки тому +39

    Don't worry, some people will complain no matter what you do lol 40cal is king!

  • @lorollinls
    @lorollinls Рік тому +66

    I enjoy your caliber comparison videos more than other people’s. You cut through the bullshit and get straight to the point, showing us what the ammo can really do.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  Рік тому +4

      Awesome, thank you. Check out the caliber comparison playlist on the channel then 👍

  • @Roxas13XIII
    @Roxas13XIII Рік тому +24

    .40 S&W once again proving its capability. Stronger performance with only 2 less rounds per magazine compared to 9mm.

  • @TRIKushbeachside
    @TRIKushbeachside Рік тому +36

    Love when .40 is used with 165s. It’s honestly what should be represented, it’s directly in the middle for caliber weight 135-180gr. 165s moving at 1100+ are proper handgun rounds

    • @Edmondson_Avenue
      @Edmondson_Avenue 10 місяців тому +1

      You can get 200gr from double tap 1100fps I get 1135fps

    • @TRIKushbeachside
      @TRIKushbeachside 10 місяців тому

      @@Edmondson_Avenue I haven’t looked much lately but I grabbed a box of 135s at 1400 and 155s at 1300. 200 @ 1135 is impressive, it’s not over pressure for standard.40?

    • @jacobackley502
      @jacobackley502 2 місяці тому

      @@TRIKushbeachside pressure isn’t really the problem in 40, but frame stress and slide velocity. Those will break the gun WAY before pressure will. Even ordinary 40 is at the high end of what the frames can usually handle

  • @largelarry2126
    @largelarry2126 2 роки тому +31

    40 S&W for the win. I don't understand why everyone loves the 10mm but hates the 40. The 40 will out preform any 9mm made in the same sized gun so why not.

    • @PedroGonzalez-qg3rt
      @PedroGonzalez-qg3rt 2 роки тому +3

      I don't know y either they almost identical rounds the 10 and 40

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому

      Most .40s&w loads are in the 400ft-lb energy range, up to a maximum of about 600ft-lbs. Very few 10mm is in the 400ft-lbs range (cheap target ammo), most are 500+ ft-lbs and up to nearly 800.

    • @largelarry2126
      @largelarry2126 2 роки тому +4

      @@BuckeyeBallistics The people who are 9mm fans don't like the 40 because it's to powerful, hard to control, and is hard the firearm. They also start looking for the most powerful 9mm they can find as soon as the get home from the gun shop. The same people will also tell you they love 10mm but 40 suck, it's a bit nuts.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому +2

      @Large Larry Yeah I've never understood the "short and wimpy" designation myself, considering .40s&w typically trumps both 9mm & .45acp on energy, a.k.a. power.

    • @DesertHusker
      @DesertHusker Рік тому +1

      .40 S&W all day every day that's why I own 3 and I'm not done yet.

  • @sambattige200
    @sambattige200 Рік тому +23

    Nice impromptu real world experiment! Impressed that the 380 impacts were split between 22 lr and 9mm. Also the 40 a very impressive difference over the 9mm.

  • @kitchenengineer1731
    @kitchenengineer1731 2 роки тому +34

    I noticed the .40 hit the top of the cinderblock on the first shot and created two cracks. The second round blew the block apart at the cracks. I would like to see that again on a new block. Love the .40 BTW

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому +9

      Yeah I couldn't see that from behind the trigger, but that is part of the reason I had the gopro down there. But the fact that the glancing shot cracked the block, that tells me a single shot would have the power to penetrate the first layer like the .45 did...

  • @kineticenergy1085
    @kineticenergy1085 Рік тому +7

    I didn’t see the block actually penetrated by the .45, just a deep cavity in the front. So, .40 wins, again, in all videos. .40 and 10mm win every time😎👍🏽

  • @nickbolognaesq
    @nickbolognaesq Рік тому +31

    Great video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. The .40 and .45 seemed to have substantially more impact (as expected). But it was interesting getting to see the results.

  • @robertdaniels-lane7321
    @robertdaniels-lane7321 Рік тому +24

    Speaking from experience, a 22lr can do some damage for sure. I was unfortunately shot in the ankle twice and one hit my knee, took almost a month to fully recover. Ever since then I’ve had the utmost respect for 22lr for sure

    • @Just1American1966
      @Just1American1966 10 місяців тому +2

      I bet you stopped whatever you were doing right then and there, too.

    • @toaster3822
      @toaster3822 9 місяців тому

      Man you gotta think about the comparable damage if you were shot with a 9mm though

    • @Just1American1966
      @Just1American1966 9 місяців тому +1

      @toaster3822
      Yes, but his point was that it didn't take a 9mm hit to get his attention right then and there.

    • @nnightkingj
      @nnightkingj 8 місяців тому

      @@Just1American1966of course not a gun is still a gun even a BB gun can do damage

    • @Just1American1966
      @Just1American1966 8 місяців тому

      @@nnightkingj
      What?

  • @BERETTA9mmUSA
    @BERETTA9mmUSA 2 роки тому +4

    Nice work! Thanks for bringing us all along! Good Video! 🤠👮🏻‍♂️🐉🇺🇸👍👋👻🍀🌚😉. B9USA Sr.

  • @brucemoriarty9964
    @brucemoriarty9964 Рік тому +13

    Great test ! The 40 did the best in my opinion. But I was impressed with the 9mm.

  • @jbj27406
    @jbj27406 Рік тому +13

    You would correctly expect the larger calibers to be more devastating, but I still cannot get over what a leap there is from the .380 up to the 9mm. I carry a .380 and think it's adequate, but it's certainly not a 9mm, in spite of the very small difference in case size and bullet weight. The .380 lingers down there with the .22, not up there with the 9mm. Nice shooting.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  Рік тому +4

      Yeah 9mm is nearly double the energy/power of .380, but the same is true for .380 compared to .22lr from a pistol. There was a huge difference between .22lr and .380 in my watermelon video that I posted...

    • @jbj27406
      @jbj27406 Рік тому +1

      @@BuckeyeBallistics Thanks for the response. This really illustrates the differences in the downrange effect. Thanks again.

    • @jimedick9496
      @jimedick9496 Рік тому +2

      @@jbj27406
      Look into Buffalo Bore or Underwood ammo for your 380 self defense rounds. They are both +P loaded, and it’s impressive compared to off the shelf ammo. I keep my .380 loaded with Buffalo Bore, and I alternate between the hollow points and the 100 gr hard casts ammo. There’s a few videos on UA-cam regarding those hard casts.
      They are very proud of their ammo, so don’t get sticker shock when you see the prices on their website. It’s worth it though. It’s excellent ammo, and it really wakes the .380 up.
      This ammo is for carrying only. I shot the ammo through my Springfield 911 to check for cycling and feeding reliability. I didn’t have any issues. So I use this stuff for self defense ammo only. It’s too expensive for taking it to the range, plus, it’s hot.
      I like the size of my .380 pistol, so that’s why it gets the nod over everything else for my EDC. With the Buffalo Bore ammo, I don’t feel under powered at all.

    • @jbj27406
      @jbj27406 Рік тому +2

      @@jimedick9496 Thanks for the tip. I'm loaded with +P hollow points at this point, but the Buffalo +P hollow points and hard cast look very interesting. Thanks again.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  Рік тому +2

      Guys I have a bunch of .380 gel tests on the channel and have another posting Monday (and more comming). I have already tested *some* Buffalo Bore and Underwood...

  • @Skydancer_1
    @Skydancer_1 Рік тому +3

    I've seen several of these vs blocks videos. Never Fails. .40 Kicks @$$.

  • @freedomfirst5420
    @freedomfirst5420 2 роки тому +14

    I've shot cinder blocks with .45acp fmj's, they get through the first layer and mushroom out quite a bit.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому +2

      Sounds reasonable

    • @OddTimeMan
      @OddTimeMan 2 роки тому +3

      Cinder blocks are lighter and weaker than concrete blocks.

    • @freedomfirst5420
      @freedomfirst5420 2 роки тому +1

      @@BuckeyeBallistics Technically they flatten out, but they are much larger than the original diameter.

    • @skipperclinton1087
      @skipperclinton1087 2 роки тому +1

      @@OddTimeMan I've done a lot of masonry inspections and I've never seen "concrete" used in blocks, only cement, water and sand.

    • @skipperclinton1087
      @skipperclinton1087 2 роки тому

      @Peter Angles Concrete has aggregate (rocks) in it. CMU's (Concrete masonry units) cinder blocks don't.

  • @mikelivingston6157
    @mikelivingston6157 Рік тому +1

    Why is it that I have seen videos upon videos of caliber comparisons but I still enjoy watching

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  Рік тому +1

      It's like watching your favorite movie over and over lol

  • @lyacoubian
    @lyacoubian 2 роки тому +7

    Another vote for the 165gr .40S&W..!!! The G35 is an outstanding handgun.

  • @rawill1958
    @rawill1958 2 роки тому +19

    I love this stuff! I'm not surprised by performance of the Ruger LCP 2 (380 ACP); I have one in 22LR and with it's iron/fixed sites it's all over the place (no discernable pattern at distance). But for a 64 yr old it's a great close-in carry gun for me.

    • @putteslaintxtbks5166
      @putteslaintxtbks5166 2 роки тому +2

      Also it has a real short barrel, but small enough that it isn't a pain to carry and one can recover aim and reshoot alot faster than a larger caliber.

    • @outdoorfanatics4596
      @outdoorfanatics4596 Рік тому +2

      Havent met anyone yet who is volunteering to take 2 or 3 .22s point blank to test if its valid for self-defense...any gun is the best gun when you need somethin

    • @bobou812
      @bobou812 Рік тому +1

      Great comparisons
      Pocket guns are easy to conceal; the 22 & 380.
      I've been in the criminal justice field for over 40 years now.
      Should you need to stop a threat the smaller 22 and 380 will do the job.
      Watching the concrete effect of those rounds would preferably not KILL someone, but stop the threat.
      In Court or to police who arrive... you shot to stop the threat of serious bodily harm and death to yourself and loved one.
      Conceal Carry association has a site to sign up and have legal representation should you need to stop a threat.
      Killing people is TV bullshit with Clint Eastwood and such.
      COVER YOUR ASS (CYA)
      should you need to use deadly force.
      😊😊

    • @josefigueroa3930
      @josefigueroa3930 Рік тому

      .380 glock42 the best

  • @ethanmac639
    @ethanmac639 2 роки тому +29

    .40 s&w is the ideal cartridge caliber for full-size/duty semi-auto handguns for self-defense/preservation, but 180gr was always too heavy for the .40 s&w, great for the 10mm auto though! between 135gr minimum and 165gr maximum parameters is best, with 155gr/150gr bullet weight being ideal!

    • @skysthelimit6495
      @skysthelimit6495 2 роки тому +6

      How is 180 too heavy? Isn't it dependant on the task at hand? Like I think 180 grain or higher would be better as a loading for when your in the woods for bears/exc. What do you think?

    • @ethanmac639
      @ethanmac639 2 роки тому +3

      @@skysthelimit6495 you have a point, but i am focused on self-defense in civilization against humans and light to medium barriers, and also the internal ballistics and wear/tear and recoil also to a degree, especially scaled up 9mm handguns instead of handguns built for or around the .40 s&w, and also external ballistics

    • @skysthelimit6495
      @skysthelimit6495 2 роки тому +2

      @@ethanmac639 Ok because I just think .40 cals biggest advantage is being able to get grain weights of 60 grains all the way to 200 grains! I know 60 grains sounds insane but yeah I seen them at sportsman 60 grains advertised at 2000fps in a jhp. Basically a completely hollowed out bullet more jacket than lead/brass!

    • @skysthelimit6495
      @skysthelimit6495 2 роки тому +1

      @@ethanmac639 btw the company making the 50 grains (I think it was 50 but I know it was at least between 50 and 60 grains no more) 40 call at 2000fps is Civil Defense. They make those kinda hyper sonic light weight loads for 9mm exc. But that doesn't change the wide variety of grain weight options of the 40!

    • @skysthelimit6495
      @skysthelimit6495 2 роки тому +1

      @@ethanmac639 ok sorry to bomb you with comments! 🤣 The 40S&W Civil Defense was 60 grains at 2000 fps!

  • @AnonConstitution
    @AnonConstitution 2 місяці тому

    That TX22 is really a very good cost effective training sidearm for beginers as well as being affordable off the shelf at under $300. Own 2 that i got for my wife and daughter to learn to shoot with and with the right ammo doesnt jam and fires as fast as you can squeeze the trigger. And they are easy to change the magazine release over to the other side for left handed people.

  • @Belano1911
    @Belano1911 10 місяців тому +6

    Greetings from the UK.
    I very much enjoyed this video, it moves along without any unnecessary chit chat before getting started. Thank you for posting a great series of tests.

  • @RareFilesMusic
    @RareFilesMusic Рік тому +1

    Taking cover behind a plastic table.... Earned my sub LOL

  • @tehclefty5317
    @tehclefty5317 2 роки тому +5

    Only thing keeping me from carrying a 22lr is my worry that I might be chased down by robots or Men in Black with armor if they come to take me out for knowing too much or something😂 Need those robot penetrating rounds… Im serious too, never know…

  • @kellettcox9177
    @kellettcox9177 2 роки тому +2

    one time when i was around 17 or so i went shooting with my dad(investigator) and my dads cop friend, i shot a cinder block with a 380 and hit it every time putting little dimples on the surface, my dads friend smirks, grabs TWO 1911s, and dual wield mag dumps them and practically disintegrated the cinder block, pretty badass

  • @brianlee6849
    @brianlee6849 Рік тому +9

    Fun 👍 I'll stick with the 1911 45 ACP. I think you would have had a much bigger hole if you'd been using some kind of expanding bullet I'm surprised it didn't go through the back side. Be interesting to see what a 357 Magnum or a 44 Magnum would do or even an old school 45 Colt. Thank you 👍

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  Рік тому

      I used fmj because I was trying to get through both sides. Hoping to do a revolver version eventually when I can afford to buy them all...

    • @brianlee6849
      @brianlee6849 Рік тому +1

      @@BuckeyeBallistics I would have thought a fmj 230 45 ACP would have passed through both sides I guess not. I think all of the magnum revolves will. Good luck with the collection 🤠 My first will be the S&W model 19 combat Magnum 357/38

    • @srchnfrcj
      @srchnfrcj Рік тому +1

      45 ACP doesn't have the highest velocity but it has heavy knockdown power and is more likely to stay inside the attacker and do more damage than a lighter caliber with higher FPS that penetrates better and does a cleaner through & through.

  • @nasedo3129
    @nasedo3129 Рік тому +2

    The .40 S&W is a beast! Way more powerful than a .45 ACP, every ballistic chart shows that. But I know guys who swear by the .45.

  • @TooManyChoices1
    @TooManyChoices1 2 роки тому +18

    .40 S&W for the win 🥇!! Specifically 165gr! It imparts more energy than .45 ACP with almost the same ammo as the 9mm.

    • @vlogfriendsutopia
      @vlogfriendsutopia Рік тому

      Energy is not a good metric for cartridge effectiveness. But penetration, expansion, momentum, all in concert, are a beautiful orchestra.

    • @TooManyChoices1
      @TooManyChoices1 Рік тому +3

      @@vlogfriendsutopia 🤔Energy definitely makes a big difference … What’s the difference between 38 and .357 ? Energy. The energy is what dictates terminal ballistics or the penetration, expansion, etc; especially when you start going to micro-sized pistols, or having to shoot at range. I haven’t seen a single .40 cartridge doesn’t penetrate at least 11+” while giving almost 100ft-lbs more energy on target than the similar (light or heavy for caliber) weight 9mm, and while retaining that energy more at all ranges.

    • @vlogfriendsutopia
      @vlogfriendsutopia Рік тому

      @@TooManyChoices1 Energy actually isn't the best metric for measuring a cartridge's effectiveness. In fact, unless velocity supercedes 2,200 FPS, wherein you cause plastic deformation, you're not going to get any sort of extra damage from that energy in tissue, as the body is very elastic. In fact, what dictates wound channel is projectile diameter and penetration depth. A .45 caliber projectile that punches clean through a target will always create a bigger hole than a .357 caliber projectile that passes clean through, regardless of energy, assuming neither projectile is faster than 2,200 FPS. Now, where I have seen that energy makes a difference is bone. Lower energy projectiles tend to poke a caliber sized hole in bones, whereas higher energy ones can break or even shatter bones.
      But to answer your question of 38 Special vs 357 Magnum, the typical 38 Special loads tend to sit between 200-350 foot pounds of energy, but I have seen them up to 450. 357 Magnum tends to sit between 550-800 foot pounds of energy, so you can see there's quite a difference.
      My personal preferences for a round are as follows; expands to at least 0.71 inches, penetrates at least 12 inches consistently in ballistics gel, and the not so important following factors, but factors that I personally like to see, are that it starts at least as a .40 caliber projectile, so that even if it doesn't expand, it still leaves a reasonable hole, and at least 500 foot pounds of energy, as that's where I've seen bones start to shatter. If a round has the first two requirements of penetration depth and expansion, that's a good round in my book. But if I can have the other two, I'll gladly take them.

    • @denniss155
      @denniss155 Рік тому

      I agree. The .40 is the winner here. And, no. There's no place to excuses such as " grains" ( you can't pick up 165 grains 22LR ammo or 220 grains .380 ammo for instance); barrel length ( the 45 usually has longer barrels than .380 for example), type of points ( there's no .40 high speed shape point as it does exist for 9 mm)...

    • @TooManyChoices1
      @TooManyChoices1 Рік тому

      @@vlogfriendsutopia “And at least 500ft-lbs of energy”, so energy matter to you too then 😅! I made a video talking about how I also prefer rinds that start with a .4 and at least 400ft-lbs (preferably closer to 450+) for my carry guns. Ft-lbs matter more than people think, and your criteria seems to indicate you agree. I also agree that bone penetration and ability to do work on the other side is the reason I prefer more energy in my carry rounds.

  • @vernmaas3609
    @vernmaas3609 Рік тому +2

    That 22 is accurate as hell

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  Рік тому

      100 yards: ua-cam.com/users/shortsN1RDJSWpVO0?feature=share

  • @rangercal1
    @rangercal1 2 роки тому +13

    22LR and 380 are plenty powerful enough to be called man stoppers. But the 45 is amazing.

  • @DrAlexVasquezICHNFM
    @DrAlexVasquezICHNFM Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the effort. I’ll stay with my 9mm Beretta 17+1

    • @istartedajoke1704
      @istartedajoke1704 4 місяці тому

      Nobody ever said you had to change..I'll stick with my glock26 gen 3..I can go from my flush 10 round all the way up to my 100 round drum filled with fmjs...my 8 shot 1911 is my bedside gun..loaded with Winchester white box 230gr fmj.

  • @wemcal
    @wemcal 11 місяців тому +4

    Great video and great information… glad you use the 165gr .40 instead of the 180gr like others do.

  • @zer0skater1993
    @zer0skater1993 Місяць тому +2

    This was a fun idea. Suprised at .40s performace.

  • @jamespugh
    @jamespugh 2 роки тому +8

    And thats why i like the 40s&w so munch for carry. Put also like a good 380 for a small gun.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому +1

      Hey glad to see you around again

    • @wwaldok
      @wwaldok 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, I carry 40 s&w in Kimber Custom Shop 3” CDP2, 9mm Walter P5 124 gr MagTech Soft point, and rarely Kimber SS Gold Match 2 with full house hand loads of 200 gr Gold Dot. Since the MagTech is a super load in the Walter, I conceal carry it by far the most. P-5 retains the military spec P38 feed ramp and refuses to feed hollow points, must have round nose form as with military ball ammo…hence the MagTech 124 gr RN soft point.

  • @robertlemmon9186
    @robertlemmon9186 10 місяців тому

    It's significant that many of these tests omit the 10mm. When I shot blocks with my S&W 1006, they consistently shattered, front wall and back, on the first shot.

  • @ronhunt9396
    @ronhunt9396 2 роки тому +15

    People kid about the 22 but I wouldn't want to be shot with one

    • @shoncarter5685
      @shoncarter5685 2 роки тому

      I learned about 22 when that Simeon kid died from the he was ranked better than Jordan he got shot ina chest w a 22 and it came out his fucked his insides up he died from internal bleeding

    • @dejavu666wampas9
      @dejavu666wampas9 7 місяців тому

      Ask Ronald Reagan what he thinks of the .22lr cartridge.

  • @JoHnAnDjAnEdOe81
    @JoHnAnDjAnEdOe81 4 місяці тому +1

    Good shooting and if that is your property that is dope! So green and open. I live in AZ amd its WAY different even though its Northen AZ.

  • @speedmaster001
    @speedmaster001 Рік тому +6

    Will the .40 haters stand up please?

  • @johnzajac9849
    @johnzajac9849 7 місяців тому +1

    Someone else described the .380 as 'a vicious little round'. We can see that in this video.
    We'd love to see you test the .327 Magnum and the 32 H&R. Good video!

  • @rjakiel73
    @rjakiel73 2 роки тому +8

    What did I gather? 22lr > 380 because being able to hit what you’re aiming at is far more important than anything else. What would be really awesome is 22WMR from a Walther WMP to see how that does.

    • @bjornlovoll8972
      @bjornlovoll8972 2 роки тому +1

      James Bond used a 380.
      The 380 which was used has poor sights, a extremely short barrel and a mediocre trigger. The 22lr that was used was basically a full-sized gun. The small guns are harder for people to notice if you carry, but are also harder to hit with. I don't think the inaccuracy was the round, I think it was the shooter. It is hard to be consistent with those pocketguns.
      Take one of each to the range yourself. The 22lr is a good practice round since the cost per round is so low. But, a half decent 380 is better at protecting yourself. I've tried a SW bodyguard and a browning 380-1911. The trigger on the SW is very poor. The Browning is a delight to use, but is slightly larger. Even a trigger job on the SW did not make it close to as easy to use as the Browning, but it did improve accuracy a fair bit. But, the SW is extremely small and does not print. And while the browning is much better, it still won't be as good for nightstand use as a 45/1911.
      A 22lr is not > than a 380. A big gun is > than a little one (when it comes to accuracy).
      The two 380's I referenced:
      www.handgunhero.com/compare/smith-wesson-m-p-bodyguard-380-vs-browning-1911-380-black-label-pro-compact

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому +2

      James Bond is a fictonal character lol

    • @bjornlovoll8972
      @bjornlovoll8972 2 роки тому +3

      @@BuckeyeBallistics yes but a cool one. Larger 380's were used by many actual police, military, etc. Not my favorite caliber, but certainly one capable of good accuracy and damage to the bad guy. And, better than a 22lr, which was my point.

    • @rjakiel73
      @rjakiel73 2 роки тому +1

      @@bjornlovoll8972 your pocket gun argument may hold water for a novice shooter. For a seasoned shooter not so much. With my NAA Black Widow at 10 yards two hands unsupported I can drop all 5 in an area the size of my hand. I'm sure shooting supprted I could probably tighten that up a little. So I can't fault the shooter on this but either the ammo or gun seeing as how he was able to properly place shots with every other pistol.

    • @jimedick9496
      @jimedick9496 Рік тому

      @@rjakiel73
      I good quality .380 pistol shots just as accurate as the .22LR. My Springfield 911 is very accurate, and I can keep my sights on target for rapid fire.
      With that said, I wouldn’t snub my nose at any of those two cartridges.
      I own both for self defense, but mine serve a different purpose. I love both my .22 revolver and pistol. The revolver is more of my brush gun while I’m in the desert. Snake shot in .22LR works terrific.
      My only issue with the .22, especially with the pistol, is failure to ignite the rim fire primer. With my .380 acp, I never have that problem. Plus, the .380 +p loads packs a bigger punch.
      Between the two, I’m grabbing the .380 over my .22LR. I still trust my life with using the .22 though, but I’m apprehensive due to the failure to fire that seems to sneak up every so often.

  • @thomaspalmer7900
    @thomaspalmer7900 Рік тому +2

    Would love to see a snub nose .38 .357 magnum & .44 revolver video!! The snub nose is very underrated in its capability especially the .357 magnum snubby!!

    • @srchnfrcj
      @srchnfrcj Рік тому

      The snubs power has never been an issue. The problem is the shorter barrel combined with the recoil makes them noticeably less accurate than say a 9mm semiauto at 10-15 yards. Plus, Id rather have a 17 rounds between reloads than 6...but thats just my personal preference. That all said, most self defense shootings occur inside 10 feet so accuracy isn't really an issue there but if Im in a shootout with an attacker who is ducking, hiding, and shooting at me, I want the trusty 124 grain FMJ 9mm luger.

    • @thomaspalmer7900
      @thomaspalmer7900 Рік тому

      @@srchnfrcj well spoken and yes I agree capacity is a huge issue with a snub nose revolver & that’s one reason I do not carry mine to often. You can never have to much capacity I would rather have more & not need it than need it & not have it!! Absolutely nothing wrong with a 9mm very effective caliber for PD!!! I own a Springfield Armory XD-9mm subcompact with 16 round capacity. My preference is the .45 & I usually carry my Glock G21 which has 13+1 capacity + I carry an extra 13 round magazine. The G21 is a full size pistol & is a little on the bulky side & just a little heavy @ 38 ounces fully loaded but I have a very good leather h paddle holster & it’s really not an issue!! I carry the Federal HST 230 grain +P JHP loaded in both magazines.

  • @Ben-sv9op
    @Ben-sv9op Рік тому +5

    That’s why I carry 40 caliber for many years it is always impressive

  • @richards.3404
    @richards.3404 11 місяців тому +2

    excellent test......particularly the .22 lr from a short barrel. how about testing the .22 lr from a longer rifle barrel ?

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  11 місяців тому

      Thanks. Considering .380 is double the power (pistol vs pistol), I don't think there would be much difference in results from a rifle.

  • @13noman1
    @13noman1 2 роки тому +4

    Kinda raises the question of what "cover" is! Probably best not to need it or at least don't stay stationary!

  • @brucemedley69
    @brucemedley69 Рік тому +2

    Not bad for Blazer for the 9mm. Blazer is not the best ammo for this when so many better options.

  • @frankbrowning328
    @frankbrowning328 2 роки тому +5

    Cool video. I agree, 9mm115 gr FMJ probably won't be all that much different than 124 gr FMJ. The big surprise for me was the 380. I thought it would penetrate better than it did. Although the round used may be lightly loaded? Definetly an accuracy issue with that load in that gun. It's also hard to tell just how close in structural integrity each block is to the next as I'm sure the manufacturer is less concerned with a bullet impact test and more concerned with weight load. I like the extra safety equipment and the warning. It's important to stay safe.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому +2

      I too was surprised that it didn't seem to do much more than the .22lr...

    • @frankbrowning328
      @frankbrowning328 2 роки тому +1

      @@BuckeyeBallistics That's what I thought too. All I can figure is maybe they're slower than normal speed . I would have thought more than double the bullet weight would make a bigger dent but then again maybe not. Maybe that's all we get with 380 95gr FMJ

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому +1

      I looked them up and it says only 980fps, so it's probably less than that from my little LCP. From a pistol, the .22lr I used would be in the 900fps range as well. The .380 definately still has more power/energy, so it must have something to do with the larger surface area.

    • @frankbrowning328
      @frankbrowning328 2 роки тому

      @@BuckeyeBallistics Cool. Agreed. Maybe it does have something to do with diameter.
      Ocassionally the velocity is rated higher than what can be achieved even in a longer barrel. A chronagraph will tell the true velocity.

  • @PerceptionVsReality333
    @PerceptionVsReality333 11 місяців тому

    I knew right away the 40s&w & 45acp would pass through the first wall.

  • @GLOCKCOPG23
    @GLOCKCOPG23 2 роки тому +4

    40 for the win…..more damage

  • @boatlover8856
    @boatlover8856 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video! the grain of a bullet makes a big difference, I likes the set you have for shooting!

  • @kellyc2425
    @kellyc2425 Рік тому +3

    I have a Taurus .357 mag revolver, a Glock G19 (don't like it), a Remington 11-87 12 gauge, Century Arms AK, but my very favorite that will be with me till my last breath is my Colt 1911 .45 ACP series 70 competition ss.
    I just simply LOVE the 1911 .45 ACP!
    Especially this Colt. The 5" competition barrel sure seems to make me shoot better.

  • @michaelstroy2832
    @michaelstroy2832 Рік тому +1

    I’m not hating on U 4 using the ammo U’re using man. 💯 1 thing that a wise man told me was to atleast be good with what U have. 💯 In this case I’m applying that 2 your ammo, & as long as it gets the job done that’s all that matters. And that goes with any type of EDC item or tool. 💯

  • @RESTORED_REPUBLIQ
    @RESTORED_REPUBLIQ 2 роки тому +5

    .40 is a beast

  • @user-li1od6pd7m
    @user-li1od6pd7m 7 місяців тому +1

    Watching your video i came to two conclusions, your probably a little crazy and we're probably related lol. I've done the same shooting when I was out riding in the Boondocks and ran across cinder locks, but yours was Waaay more fun to watch. Loved the video👍

  • @simonsmith2642
    @simonsmith2642 2 роки тому +3

    9 short is a good round, it gets a lot of crap but +P in my P365 and I feels safe, I had an LCP and its a piece of sh*t. I carry 9 when it gets cold out. But most of the year 9 short is plenty. Im not planning on shooting concrete blocks. But that 40 my goodness, sure is a good round isnt it. That’ll knock your head clean off. I never shot one of those.

  • @phootnote
    @phootnote Рік тому +1

    That's a nice range.

  • @BrotherArmzz
    @BrotherArmzz Рік тому +3

    Man your shooting range is beautiful!! Lucky!

  • @duanedurham7031
    @duanedurham7031 Рік тому +2

    I’m a Tried & True M1911 .45ACP Bubba myself… I do have a .22LR Pistol for training & for my wife & teen son to learn/practice with. I would NEVER laugh at a .22LR… a .22LR can do some damage too.

  • @GunSam
    @GunSam 2 роки тому +2

    Why didn't you use the 230 gr .22 LR to be fair? lol. 165 gr .40 is good stuff.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому

      Lol you know how it is in the comments section brother.

  • @bobi_rancic
    @bobi_rancic Рік тому +1

    Very good video. Greatings from Nis, Serbia 👍👍👍👏👏

  • @wwaldok
    @wwaldok 2 роки тому +3

    Your 40 ammo is optimized at that Bullet wt for mnear ax ft-lbs and should therefore have heaviest impact on target. A 180 would not have done as well. The 45ACP with a 200 grain LaserCast set at max loading would have performed better than the 230gr FMJ.

  • @nathanielreyes2234
    @nathanielreyes2234 Рік тому +1

    Nice grouping

  • @thatsmytwocents4372
    @thatsmytwocents4372 Рік тому +3

    The .380 didn’t hit consistently, but all were deadly !!!

  • @rehanullahmarwat373
    @rehanullahmarwat373 Рік тому +1

    If the tokrev tt33 was in the competition , i am sure it would have been the winner

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  Рік тому

      Light and fast, I don't know. I really want to get a pistol chambered in that 7.62x25 though, along with several other calibers I still don't have...

  • @tonyreyes3294
    @tonyreyes3294 2 роки тому +3

    .40S&W did it with only one shot

  • @petersmybro
    @petersmybro Рік тому +1

    All these UA-camrs only shooting 1 round at targets. Even .22LR will punch through concrete if you fire enough times 👍

  • @josephamoraz7990
    @josephamoraz7990 Рік тому +12

    I bet this was a fun little test, The smith & wesson 40 was impressive.
    I recently won a M&P 40 at a gun raffle and have yet to bring it to the range.

    • @tx-2144
      @tx-2144 Рік тому +2

      Nice to know people actually win those

  • @nftshiller8485
    @nftshiller8485 10 місяців тому +1

    nice video i just bought the ruger lcp max and have not shot yet

  • @thesaltman6705
    @thesaltman6705 Рік тому +4

    The 22 shot placement was very impressive..so was the effect..great test ,the table and crash helmet..😂
    Don't carry the 380 too inaccurate .thanks for making the video

    • @josefigueroa3930
      @josefigueroa3930 Рік тому

      .380 Glock42 way more accurate

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  Рік тому

      @jose - P238 😉

    • @leeyates290
      @leeyates290 10 місяців тому

      I think 380 is just like that mine sucks with some ammo but is dead accurate with others

  • @OldBadger1
    @OldBadger1 Рік тому +2

    As i normally carry a sharpend stick , they are all good.

  • @pewspaws6795
    @pewspaws6795 2 роки тому +4

    I shot some cinderblocks with a 500 like a month ago and wow its awesome. Great video keep up the good work

    • @pewspaws6795
      @pewspaws6795 2 роки тому +1

      @Peter Angles got a few videos up shooting the 350 grain fmjs at blocks

  • @AmbassadorTaps-mp9ym
    @AmbassadorTaps-mp9ym Рік тому +1

    40S&W is the superior hunting cartridge choice over 45acp. 9mm??? No..... Not enough take down. When it comes to a big bore hunting side arm. 40S&W kicks ass in Texas.

  • @jamessmith-ow1bf
    @jamessmith-ow1bf 2 роки тому +11

    They say the .40 is dead but for a dead round it performed very well and if the "dead" 357 Sig had been tested it would likely outperformed all of them. Seems the dead rounds are very much still alive and doing well.

    • @ms.annthrope415
      @ms.annthrope415 Рік тому

      Being a "dead round" is only about how popular it is, not how effective it is. The .38 super is dead but is pretty hard hitting round. I never liked the .40 as it recoils a bit hard due to high chamber pressures. I just prefer the good old .45ACP.

    • @BigSlick40
      @BigSlick40 Рік тому +1

      @@ms.annthrope415 The 9mm luger and .40 have the same SAAMI pressures. The snappy recoil is attributed to the heavier bullet weight. Shoot a 135gr .40 vs a 124gr NATO round and the recoil is very close to one another.

  • @Actheman1978
    @Actheman1978 10 місяців тому +2

    .40 haters are real quiet. LOL

  • @bhka6423
    @bhka6423 Рік тому +3

    Good aim. you hit the same spot 6 times a row.

  • @teresapurdie5898
    @teresapurdie5898 10 місяців тому

    To make it fair you should use a new block for each caliber because using the same block it has been weakened with each previous bullet.

  • @guardianminifarm8005
    @guardianminifarm8005 2 роки тому +30

    Interesting results. The 40 & 45 certainly appear to hit a good bit harder than 9mm. Fun stuff for sure.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому +2

      On cinder blocks for sure. I'm assuming the exta weight is what carries them through...

    • @johnryan6658
      @johnryan6658 2 роки тому +3

      @@BuckeyeBallistics or, it could be the 5 inch barrels.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому +7

      True. Allthough in my gel testing, I will say that the heavier bullets (.40 &.45) tend to penetrate further, even with fmj. It's like trying to stop a car compared to a truck (with a barrier)- even if the car is going a little faster, it's still harder to stop the heavier truck...

    • @johnryan6658
      @johnryan6658 2 роки тому +1

      @@BuckeyeBallistics that's because heavier bullets in a given cartridge have a higher sectional density. As I mentioned in the watermelon video, when comparing different cartridges, you need to match sectional densities. This is easy to do by Googling "handgun sectional density chart."

    • @nooneyouknowhere6148
      @nooneyouknowhere6148 2 роки тому +5

      I was speaking to a retired police office who had been in more than one shootout. After unloading a 9mm into a guy without stopping him, he would only carry a 45 afterwards.

  • @GiorgiSukhitashvili
    @GiorgiSukhitashvili 8 місяців тому

    Nice vid but maybe use the same barrel length for a more accurate comparison?

  • @timclaus8313
    @timclaus8313 Рік тому +4

    I painted the front sight on my LCPII with a white stripe, helped aiming considerably. But the short barrel limits velocity and sight radius makes them harder to shoot at distance. My Bersa Thunder regularly clocks the same ammo at 100 FPS faster than the LCP II

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  Рік тому

      I like the Thunders, used to have one.

    • @ericschneider8524
      @ericschneider8524 Рік тому +1

      My Bersa 380 cc will splode some red jello !

    • @timclaus8313
      @timclaus8313 Рік тому

      @@ericschneider8524 The Bersa 380 has enough extra barrel length to get those light bullets to do their magic, lol. One of the most accurate pistols I have.

  • @Blkojo
    @Blkojo 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent job.

  • @J.Wick.
    @J.Wick. Рік тому +3

    40 is my overall favorite of these calibers. Also, kinda glad to see that you're LCP is also all over the place from beyond 10ft or so lol

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  Рік тому

      Honestly, as I stated in the video, it had to of been the ammo. In my review video of the pistol with different ammo, it was much more accurate than that. That said, I have certainly shot more accurate .380's than the Max. But you can't beat that capacity and concealability which is why I bought it...

  • @CarGuyV8
    @CarGuyV8 2 роки тому +2

    I love these types of videos. Good job on it. Off topic, have you heard of the new Girsan MC-P35? I’m thinking of picking one up when I see one in my local gun store.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому

      No but I just looked it up- that's like the 3rd or 4th Hi-Power in a year lol. I'm actually after the Tisas Fatih 380 (Beretta Cheetah clone). If you get that MC-P35 I expect to see a review video sir!

    • @CarGuyV8
      @CarGuyV8 2 роки тому +1

      @@BuckeyeBallistics absolutely. Apparently it’s actually a very good pistol for the price. It’s basically half the price of other hi powers and doesn’t lack anything in the design.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому

      Right, didn't say I wasn't excited about it (why you think I want to see you review it lol). I like Girsans stuff, especially their 92 "clone" the Regard, which really is a Beretta (they used to make them FOR Beretta).

    • @CarGuyV8
      @CarGuyV8 2 роки тому +1

      @@BuckeyeBallistics yes I’ve heard good things about their clones. A local gun shop has some p35s in order. Maybe they’ll come in soon.

  • @l32barney
    @l32barney 2 роки тому +3

    Your content is great. I enjoy all of the pro 2nd

  • @marcthomas7032
    @marcthomas7032 Рік тому

    The 40 cal is clearly Superior to all of the other Rousey has on their table❤

  • @timbow50
    @timbow50 2 роки тому +4

    It ain’t the ammo. It’s your grip and squeeze guaranteed. Love the .45. My favorite EDC.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому +1

      No it's not, garunteed...

    • @ericb6390
      @ericb6390 2 роки тому

      Thats what i saw too, he does not have thumbs as high as should , then has his right thumb withing palm of left hand,so any variance in different palm grip will affect accuracy,especially further he gets out, i use to do that when first started shooting pistol,but once learned how to properly hold it then accuracy is 10 times better

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому +1

      Or you guys could go watch 100 videos of me shooting pistols accurately including 100 yards on the channel, but instead you speculate. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself...

    • @crazed357
      @crazed357 Рік тому +1

      @@BuckeyeBallistics I reload bullets, and one day I bought some Winchester 38 specials. Cheapest stuff I could find, lead cast. Those bullets seemed they had a 12” spread at 15 yards. It’s the cheap powder that is used, coupled with the twist rate of the gun and bullet weight.

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  Рік тому

      @Crazed 357 - These guys that say it's me haven't watched me shoot very long lol. I shoot 9mm .45 etc 100 yards accurately, proven on the channel in multiple videos. If it was me then I wouldn't even have a chance at ringing steel at 100 yards over and over...

  • @andreawhalen4142
    @andreawhalen4142 Рік тому +1

    the flatnosed 40 bullet hits like a battering ram.

  • @sergiorivera2007
    @sergiorivera2007 2 роки тому +6

    Very impressed with the .22LR , it did some damage from pretty far away. Imagine from 7 yds away . 👍

    • @SoWavvyy
      @SoWavvyy 2 роки тому

      Not a good round for self defense at all.

    • @artofshadows1797
      @artofshadows1797 2 роки тому +1

      @@SoWavvyy depending on if you know what you’re doing

  • @Shot_Gunner
    @Shot_Gunner 7 місяців тому +1

    In my experience I haven’t been able to get a .45acp to pass through a cinder block with one shot. It actually performed the worst for me.

  • @xZerbersteRx
    @xZerbersteRx 2 роки тому +3

    Nice video ! What do you say about a colt 1911 45 ACP ? Will buy one ! Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹

    • @BuckeyeBallistics
      @BuckeyeBallistics  2 роки тому +2

      Colt makes nice 1911's...

    • @USMC-1911
      @USMC-1911 2 роки тому +1

      I buy every 1911 I can get love them.

    • @xZerbersteRx
      @xZerbersteRx 2 роки тому

      @@USMC-1911 which one is the best ?

    • @mooktemas6800
      @mooktemas6800 2 роки тому +1

      @@xZerbersteRx Wilson combat makes great 1911s. They are expensive though.

  • @dirtfarmer7472
    @dirtfarmer7472 Рік тому +2

    You already know this but the 38&357 you can use the same revolver & even a lever action can do the same.
    I’m an old man who likes the old style & I use them.
    Thank you for your video

  • @stopatredlights
    @stopatredlights 2 роки тому +4

    Great way to cut blocks for home construction

  • @maritzanieves8317
    @maritzanieves8317 2 роки тому +3

    Damn glad I use 22lr,9mm and 380ACP! Great job 👏 love it

    • @Rhino5.0
      @Rhino5.0 Рік тому +1

      380 is pretty small and weak

    • @maritzanieves8317
      @maritzanieves8317 Рік тому

      @@Rhino5.0 but it will do the job when you need it

    • @SportyGeek12
      @SportyGeek12 Рік тому +2

      @@Rhino5.0 I guarantee you if you got shot with a .380 you would not find it small and weak.

  • @rogueshadow93
    @rogueshadow93 Рік тому +1

    Sad you didn't do the glock 17 9mm conversion to the .22 TCM