Everything You Need To Know About MTB Saddle Position | GMBN Guide To Bike Setup

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  • @solarflare4345
    @solarflare4345 4 роки тому +114

    Doddy is the best! Could listen to him explain tech all day, he does everything in an easy to understand way. Keep up the good work

    • @benjamind165
      @benjamind165 4 роки тому +5

      Solar Flare read that as Daddy and it really weirded me out

    • @sticksman7819
      @sticksman7819 4 роки тому

      That's why I subscribed myself as I'm a complete buffoon at this kind of stuff.

    • @Hasta-la-vista-baby
      @Hasta-la-vista-baby 3 роки тому

      @@benjamind165 😂

    • @secularsam7678
      @secularsam7678 2 роки тому

      @@benjamind165 same

  • @carrieolson3352
    @carrieolson3352 4 роки тому +17

    Amateur here, just discovered the love of road/off road biking. Have two old bikes from my Pops...Raleighs. I know these are old, and not anywhere to the level that all of you here have. BUT...I’m taking this summer to learn about the bike. I’m dismantling one of them, learning the names of all parts, how to fix, replace, repair. And then reassemble. I came up on this channel to do just this, and love this guy. So much useful info, and for the most part understandable to me as a newbie. Taking on trails/roads/paths in my city, and if It all works out and I love it in the months ahead as I do now, I’ll look into purchasing a new bike. After googling bikes, that seems like a daunting task. Bikes are a lot more specialized and expensive than when I bought one last....

    • @Ghost-pt5eu
      @Ghost-pt5eu 4 роки тому

      If you are planning on riding mountain bike trails. The right equipment is a must. Since the thing occurred. Mountain Bikes are very hard to find. I purchased a GHOST Kato 5.9 29" hardtail from REI. Hence my name:) It is no longer available. All of the name brand manufacturers have been sold out for months. Doddy's video helped me tune my saddle and it made a huge difference.

    • @PeterPhinney
      @PeterPhinney 3 роки тому

      Get a new bike mate. Old bikes are quite shite off road compared to them.

    • @realeyezrealizerealliez3095
      @realeyezrealizerealliez3095 Місяць тому

      Yeah right

  • @nk-dw2hm
    @nk-dw2hm 3 роки тому +15

    Doddy is soo good at explaining things in simple ways that sometimes I forget how brilliant he is. Not every expert has the ability to break things down like he does (and fewer still can be entertaining at the same time)

  • @beardedvikingmtber
    @beardedvikingmtber 4 роки тому +134

    Doddys morphing into that dude from park tool 🤙🏻😂
    Quality content as always lads

  • @piciu256
    @piciu256 4 роки тому +5

    I used to lower my saddle 2-3cm from the optimal height before I had a dropper, it caused me knee pain on longer riders, I'm a happy dropper post user now and never looking back.

  • @steve3048
    @steve3048 9 місяців тому +1

    These tips were absolutely brilliant, I hadn't ridden for a long time due to a semi-fused ankle and now with an electric mtb bike and years of of healing it looks like I can at least get back in the saddle, and with these tips it will help me not to get ankle pain or ruin any work put into it

  • @chrisfontaine6221
    @chrisfontaine6221 4 роки тому +7

    at 6 foot, I thought I'd try a large XC frame, I thought I was doing well on it... then recently I went back to a medium frame, and my climbing and over all control and riding has been vastly improved.

    • @haliac7117
      @haliac7117 4 роки тому

      I'm 5' 10" and I got a large Enduro bike, and it's perfect for me, it's purely opinion.

    • @fredEVOIX
      @fredEVOIX 2 роки тому

      6ft too I bought what was supposed to be my size frame but always regretted not having bought a smaller one..turns out for everyone but my brand (which doesn't exist anymore) the frame I have is meant for 6.4ft not the same at all >< I agree with you Chris a medium frame is more nimble for sure I'm constantly battling with the center of gravity being too high when I climb or ride in rocks and roots...my old medium frame with 26" wheels was just easier to ride (but slower, no adjustable seatposts back in those days)

  • @user-nw6ci5qe8t
    @user-nw6ci5qe8t 15 днів тому

    Now I finally found the most informative with a simple explanation about mtb adjustments. Been watching like 100s of videos about mtb seat height and how far it can be to the handlebar for mtb.thanks for explaining about alot of movement or body position coz the retains. 🙏🙏

  • @zacksmathers2689
    @zacksmathers2689 Рік тому +1

    As a big man just getting into mtb riding, I truly appreciate this video. I was very upset my new bike saddle was jamming me in my bits. Learning I can angle up or down, forward and backwards is so relieving

  • @greasemonkeyguitarshop
    @greasemonkeyguitarshop Рік тому

    This is the best explanation of seat, height and adjustment for mountain, biking ever! Thank you so much!

  • @WIPEYOURLENZ
    @WIPEYOURLENZ Рік тому +1

    It’s also a great idea to measure your sit bones I was running the wrong seat for years.

  • @Metal-Possum
    @Metal-Possum 4 роки тому +4

    I did some long(ish) distance trekking over a few days (on a mountain bike, just not mountain biking). Came home with an over-extended and inflamed Achilles (tendinitis) and it's been chronic on and off ever since. Saddle position and height is definitely important if you're not just putting about for a few miles at a time, or catching a lift to the top. The only real long term fix for me is to stop riding entirely, which means my job would be on the line too.
    All because I swapped my rather slim WTB saddle out for a Brooks and didn't even consider the change in seat height that caused.

    • @srileo
      @srileo 11 місяців тому

      Sad to hear that. Has it healed?

    • @Metal-Possum
      @Metal-Possum 11 місяців тому

      @@srileo Not exactly. It's 99% fine almost all of the time, but sometimes I can irritate it depending on how I sit at my desk or whatever. Occasionally when I get up in the morning it can be a bit stiff.

  • @jnetodd
    @jnetodd 4 роки тому +3

    wow there's a lot to setting that all up correctly and I was even wondering how this all plays out with the correct size and geometry of the frame? Many people are most concerned with getting the right size bike when I think here you've shown that getting everything else set up right can make a huge difference in comfort as well.

  • @mattadams9742
    @mattadams9742 4 роки тому +10

    Loving the stache doddy!

    • @jensleerssen9603
      @jensleerssen9603 4 роки тому

      Is this a retro nod to Tom Ritchey? us.ritcheylogic.com/us_en/meet-tom

  • @powtheginge
    @powtheginge 4 роки тому +5

    Doddy, can you do a recommendation on mtb saddles, different styles and price points? Loving the tash!

  • @chrisbennett5796
    @chrisbennett5796 2 роки тому

    12:35. “No one person is the same”. I always thought every one person was the same.
    Lots of great info, as always. Thanks Doddy.

  • @babajamiaco
    @babajamiaco 4 роки тому +2

    Nice! Clear, concise, no BS practical approach. Appreciate!

  • @jeff35372
    @jeff35372 Рік тому

    I agree this is the best instructional video I have seen on rider positioning. Thanks for mentioning crank length.
    Sadly it is quite difficult finding 160 crank arms for the older riders , e-bikes, and younger riders with shorter legs.

  • @justsayin3600
    @justsayin3600 4 роки тому +2

    I bought a new Giant Trance 2. It has a Contact neutral seat. I couldn't get comfortable riding, it felt like the bike didn't fit right. I decided to buy an Ergon SM Sport. OMG it doesn't feel like the same bike. I think that should be the #1 update for any bike!

    • @patrickhazlehurst8472
      @patrickhazlehurst8472 3 роки тому

      I bought a Cube e-bike at £4,000 and it had the worst saddle I've ever sat on. I agree that a replacement saddle is a great idea.

    • @chipisbell7075
      @chipisbell7075 2 роки тому

      I like my Giant bikes but throw the seats away.

  • @bdaugherty03
    @bdaugherty03 4 роки тому +3

    Finally a good video on this! Thanks GMBN

  • @alvinnieves590
    @alvinnieves590 4 роки тому +1

    Another thing to consider for pedals if the stance is too wide and rubbing on chainstay or crank. Adding spacers to the pedals where they screw into the crank does help. I have one spacer on each and they do help me.

    • @drumerboy456sx
      @drumerboy456sx Рік тому

      Never though of that. My chain stay has some shoe sole on it lol

  • @Greenfuego
    @Greenfuego 2 роки тому

    That is just about the clearest explanation on saddle position I have heard or found. Thank you Doddy!

  • @WooHooLadttv
    @WooHooLadttv 2 роки тому +3

    My balls were killing me, looks like i had it too far back lmao

  • @NotMyFullTimeJob
    @NotMyFullTimeJob 4 роки тому +1

    i just bought new pedals CB stamp 7 Large and replaced the old shimano saint pedals with them and i just can't believe how my position and movement on the bike has improved

  • @Rzarecteh
    @Rzarecteh 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome bike! I just ordered a Lux a few hours ago. Can’t wait!

  • @maslank7124
    @maslank7124 4 роки тому +6

    Thanks for all the helpful tips! Gonna use them to ride better on my next edit. Stay strong everyone :))

  • @stevenreyes3680
    @stevenreyes3680 3 роки тому

    I used to be so, so picky about my saddle height....
    Well, with the Bafang BBSHD on my bike, I’ve found one good compromise. It’s just low.
    Not slammed down all the way, but maybe 2 full inch’s from optimal pedaling position.
    The 160mm cranks help too. Knees don’t come up so high.
    Now if I were going on a long road ride I might put it back where it should be.
    But that would be if I were going out of town. In traffic and at stop lights I can barely get one tippy toe on the ground, and I can start to cramp. Now there’s an excuse for a dropper post.
    Sometimes you just have to live with compromise....
    Still, where saddle sits is perfect for the trail, and with the power of the motor, I’ve no problem on the street.
    Cheers

  • @hallstewart
    @hallstewart 3 місяці тому

    Flat pedals for comfort, simply because it allows unconsciously moving feet around. Moving the foot slightly further forward on the pedal largely compensates for the lack of clip-grip. I also go for big platforms as I find balancing better with feet wider; again the advantage of big flats being you can move you feet out for descending and in for climbing. But it only works well with a highish BB or else those big pedals catch on everything when pedalling!

  • @akairborne
    @akairborne 3 роки тому +1

    The moustache and the jorts are killing me!

  • @mattcucci5490
    @mattcucci5490 4 роки тому

    I just changed my pedals to a smaller size, stoked to try it out! And not clip rocks.

  • @Paltmonster
    @Paltmonster 4 роки тому

    I could listen to doddy for weeks

  • @Zombytes
    @Zombytes 10 місяців тому

    Never thought about different length crank arms. I might have to go with a shorter set. Thanks.

  • @samstrolia
    @samstrolia 3 місяці тому

    Great video, looking forward to setting this up tomorrow.

  • @frugalfirehd7119
    @frugalfirehd7119 4 роки тому +34

    Obligatory person in comments who say`s - I was just looking at doing that! - Is me today :) Cheers Doddy!

    • @tomp329
      @tomp329 4 роки тому +2

      same

    • @dietznutz1
      @dietznutz1 4 роки тому +1

      I actually am as well

    • @bossywalker
      @bossywalker 4 роки тому +2

      Same boat here. Had new bike day yesterday and still need to get everything dialed.

    • @JimEckhardt
      @JimEckhardt 4 роки тому +1

      Yep. That be me too. 😂

    • @bossywalker
      @bossywalker 4 роки тому

      @George Vitus Sentier 27 VRS

  • @rbruce63
    @rbruce63 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks Doddy! It’s been enlightening to listen to your lecture and it comes in handy. As I recently purchased a 1993 Cannondale M 800 Beast of the East I’ve had a harder time adjusting her to my old frame! Cheers from Costa Rica!

  • @AverageDadMTB
    @AverageDadMTB 4 роки тому +1

    You're my hero Doddy!

  • @stat1cghost
    @stat1cghost 4 роки тому

    My go to saddle height position is just to stand beside the bike and adjust the saddle height to my waistline or just the top of my pelvis. This way always gives me the comfortable saddle height. Anything higher gives me cramps. Fore and aft in conjunction with the hadlebar/stem is best measured with how upright or downward aggressive I want my cockpit position as this will be absorbed by your arms and chest which is also dependent on how wide the handlebar is to your comfort level.

    • @yengsabio5315
      @yengsabio5315 3 роки тому

      I'm gonna try your procedure. Thank you for sharin' it here, eh mate!
      Cheers & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines!

  • @davidchocron5450
    @davidchocron5450 Рік тому

    Tanks from France 🇨🇵👍

  • @brunohd4254
    @brunohd4254 3 роки тому +1

    Great tips! One thing I find, is I need to run my saddle 5mm to 10mm lower when riding my flat pedals vs clipless. Not sure if it's just me but because I ride with my foot more centered on the pedal with flats I have to lower just a bit.

  • @jdavis417
    @jdavis417 4 роки тому +6

    Richard Branson called... he wants those speed boats on your feet back! ;)

  • @jasonh4709
    @jasonh4709 3 роки тому +1

    Outstanding instruction, thank you!

  • @velthiz
    @velthiz 3 роки тому

    Best bike setup video, Thanks Doddy, always top quality with your personal recommendations. Thanks!

  • @hawkeyelikesbikes
    @hawkeyelikesbikes 3 роки тому +3

    Some issues with the recommendations.
    1: 1cm let alone 3cm is a massive difference in saddle height, when just a couple of millimetres can dramatically affect pedalling action and the likelihood of overuse injury for many riders. Dropper posts mean you no longer need to compromise with this on dual suspension bikes.
    2: Knee over pedal spindle (KOPS) is now discredited among independent bike fitters (ie those who perform bike fitting as their primary profession) and a more mid foot clear position is preferred. It is no longer considered to even be a good starting position.
    3: First things first: it all starts with the shoes and the cleat position- if these are wrong for the rider, the rest of the fit is compromised.

    • @badsanta7356
      @badsanta7356 2 роки тому +2

      Make a video demonstrating what you're talking about

  • @alexcucalon7931
    @alexcucalon7931 4 роки тому

    Great tip regarding the vertical line. Will apply asap

    • @gmbntech
      @gmbntech  4 роки тому

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @anthonycongiano8890
    @anthonycongiano8890 3 роки тому +1

    Great setup video!

  • @MrModtronix
    @MrModtronix 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Doddy! So on point!

  • @julesbar3545
    @julesbar3545 Рік тому

    Well explained. Very easy to understand.

  • @harry.sekhon
    @harry.sekhon 4 роки тому

    This is creepy. Been researching this for the last couple of days. Used the 109% method to set height. Slid the saddle to the middle. Eased up the reach on bars. Pushed out the grips for faux wider bar. And? Voila! More power. More comfy. No hand pain. But back to the creepy bit. Went out for a ride. Came back to the tubes and this video shows up in reco 🤔 Shivers!

  • @FaisalKhan-om7en
    @FaisalKhan-om7en 4 роки тому +7

    This is so long to do in real life, but it's worth doing

  • @bananasstuff3344
    @bananasstuff3344 4 роки тому +1

    Super helpful! Thanks guys!

  • @MazdaMiata-gt8kw
    @MazdaMiata-gt8kw 4 роки тому +7

    Had my saddle way to far back and wondered why I had back issues after my rides lol

    • @calin073
      @calin073 3 роки тому

      I have pain in my lower back too, I think I have the same problem, I just installed days a go a dropper post to my hard tail.

    • @clmfilms8103
      @clmfilms8103 3 роки тому +1

      @@calin073 how much travel do you have on your dropper? I got a 150 mm, but I have grown a bit and now I'm wishing that I got a 170...

    • @calin073
      @calin073 3 роки тому

      @@clmfilms8103 The bike shop installed my dropper, this was 150mm, but they changed it for a shorter 125mm, now I'm much better.

  • @vedanttoke20
    @vedanttoke20 4 роки тому +2

    I was just setting my saddle REALLLLYY

  • @samball6813
    @samball6813 4 роки тому +4

    great vid. I bet i've been riding like a spaghetti monster for the last 28 years...

  • @lewisbutcher781
    @lewisbutcher781 4 роки тому +53

    Could we see another hardtail week?

  • @Blbmars
    @Blbmars 3 роки тому

    Rad moustache, Doddy!

  • @FaisalKhan-jg6kg
    @FaisalKhan-jg6kg Рік тому

    Great and comprehensive video. thanks

  • @iamjamesmannion4853
    @iamjamesmannion4853 3 роки тому

    Awesome tech vid, have a slight different view on the crank length after reading and watching some examples of how a shorter crank arm reduces hip rotation and therefore increase comfort and any potential hip issues later on in life. Granted it plays a bigger factor on road where like stated you spend more time seated but its still a factor.

    • @johnsononi6880
      @johnsononi6880 2 роки тому

      Ttztttzttzzttzztdztztzzzztzzzztztttzztt-ttzttzztzdzztztzzztztttzttzztttzdtztztttttyztttztt-z---tf-----d--

  • @bobstevens9040
    @bobstevens9040 4 роки тому +1

    Loving the 'tache dude

  • @nicholasserneo8219
    @nicholasserneo8219 4 роки тому +4

    8:17 he said “If you look at my Nukeproof here”, while pointing at his beautiful Canyon bike 😂

    • @renhonda8859
      @renhonda8859 3 роки тому

      i think the saddle he showed was on a nukeproof hahahaha, not sure tho

  • @bodieterrill
    @bodieterrill 4 роки тому

    can you do a vid about all you need to know about dirt jumpers, like gear ration, suspension setup, bars, geo etc.

  • @molokofreak
    @molokofreak Місяць тому

    7:40 what a great representation of BROOKS saddle owners

  • @KestrelYI
    @KestrelYI 4 роки тому

    Really good video on setup - thanks for posting this info!

  • @Angiecornx
    @Angiecornx 3 роки тому

    Amazing tips i’ll def do some of the tips hope it’ll help thanks man!

  • @alicangul2603
    @alicangul2603 4 роки тому

    Very comprehensive. Thanks!

  • @STONEHACKs
    @STONEHACKs 4 роки тому

    Thank you so much Doddy.

  • @Black_Onyx
    @Black_Onyx 4 роки тому +3

    I always question me about the seat angle adjustment, what about the rear suspension sag ? Seat angle wont be the same with or wihtout sag.

  • @mohammadrasoulfard-habibi3066
    @mohammadrasoulfard-habibi3066 4 роки тому +1

    That tash is majestic hahaha 😆

  • @rupedog
    @rupedog 4 роки тому

    V useful vid, especially the fore/aft setting.

    • @gmbntech
      @gmbntech  4 роки тому

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @Darklight-ux7de
    @Darklight-ux7de 4 роки тому +2

    Can you do a feature on steering damper.thanks you
    I now had one use handed so it more noticeable since I had the stroke I seen the damper sets of canecreak. I'm looking for less "chatter'' as I get my balance back I hope to be able to steer with just one arm and one leg.
    I have seen it Olympics so I know it possible
    Thanks

  • @patrickhazlehurst8472
    @patrickhazlehurst8472 3 роки тому

    Great video (as always). I'll be out adjusting mine shortly, after I've used the tips in another GMBN video to fix the puncture in my tubeless tyre. Keep up the good work guys.

  • @User-cc6cq
    @User-cc6cq 3 роки тому

    Glad I found this!

  • @DameEdnaBrown
    @DameEdnaBrown 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the great info

  • @fair2middling
    @fair2middling 4 роки тому

    when Doddy mentions manufacturers are pretty good at sizing crank lengths and my small Jeffsy came with a 175mm, same as the XXL 🤬😉

  • @richrider5884
    @richrider5884 Рік тому

    Very informative video. I was wondering how far a mullet setup would skew the front adjustments due to the larger tire up front.

  • @howieburnite
    @howieburnite 4 роки тому

    Cheers Doddy, great info

  • @thomaswharton6348
    @thomaswharton6348 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for the input but there was two details you missed out on your explanation: 1. Adjutsing the seat angle. You mention flat or slickly downwards but how to you check that if every saddle is not flat, having a higher back area. I have seen that the level should be taken on the front flat section of the seat and others say that you should consider the entire length of the seta to find the level.... You did not give any information on the cockpit trimming. Where can I get that information? All the Best.

  • @IvayloDimm
    @IvayloDimm 3 роки тому

    Great video!!! Thanks

  • @brynmrsh
    @brynmrsh 4 роки тому +13

    7:42 Can you explain exactly what we're looking at here?

    • @MikeKraemer87
      @MikeKraemer87 4 роки тому +1

      Flux capacitor.

    • @aperson5994
      @aperson5994 3 роки тому

      It’s from gcn when they visit a urologist about wether cycling is good for your prostrate

  • @bendornan6115
    @bendornan6115 4 роки тому +15

    #AskGMBNTech Can you do a partnership with a manufacturer and design a GMBN mtb?

    • @fwmtb
      @fwmtb 3 роки тому

      Pinkbike isn't doing it fast enough

  • @behanseck
    @behanseck 3 роки тому

    be sure to account for sag when setting saddle angle.

  • @sohaibyounus
    @sohaibyounus 4 роки тому

    Another awesome video!

  • @stevengien5409
    @stevengien5409 4 роки тому

    great and informative video

  • @peachy0014
    @peachy0014 4 роки тому

    I always prefer mid foot on the peddle. Love the video though.

  • @xiaojhay7074
    @xiaojhay7074 3 роки тому +2

    Doddy is the younger version of the mechanic in parktool jusy sayin tho.

  • @vedanttoke20
    @vedanttoke20 4 роки тому +5

    Who else skipped the clipless part
    FLATS FR LIFE!😃😃😃

    • @barryconlon2774
      @barryconlon2774 4 роки тому

      Yeah flats are ok for beginners,wait until you have more skill then move to clipless. 😉

  • @koosverwey
    @koosverwey 4 роки тому

    Well done

  • @bestmedever
    @bestmedever 4 роки тому

    Thank you!

  • @hannes6114
    @hannes6114 2 роки тому +1

    My Bike setup is getting really dialed :) Only my skills aren't...

  • @yorkchris10
    @yorkchris10 4 роки тому

    Variable geometry and memory seat position - you're dreaming. A Telelever would allow variable rake with variable length Heim joint on end of A-frame.

  • @hardtailflo4807
    @hardtailflo4807 4 роки тому

    this video probably just saved my knees and feet

  • @michaelfreeman681
    @michaelfreeman681 4 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @user-ne8hk8nj2d
    @user-ne8hk8nj2d 4 роки тому

    CALVIN'S MOUSTACHE EVERYONE!
    (interesting, did Calvin Doddys haircut - haveto check out)

  • @Andy-cu6bw
    @Andy-cu6bw День тому

    I have fitted shorter cranks, now my plumb line is too far forward from the pedal axis to my knee with cranks horiz. Seat is fully backward on rails. Do I need to change seats?

  • @juluisreyes9094
    @juluisreyes9094 4 роки тому

    Hello doddy..and the bushes are still waving at you..lol

  • @aviationmotivation4957
    @aviationmotivation4957 3 роки тому

    The black shorts your wearing in the beginning of the video when you are riding are sick! Where did you get them? I didn’t see them in the shop.

  • @masonthurman
    @masonthurman Місяць тому

    running into knee pain on my enduro mtb even though i've matched my saddle height to my trail mtb bike. Thinking this might be due to the slacker seat angle and longer cranks. What's a good way to set fore aft on an enduro style bike?

  • @ernestocazares4065
    @ernestocazares4065 2 роки тому

    My saddle to nose up and my grapes were hurting. Now it's nose down and my wrists hurt. Need to find that happy medium.

  • @OTR366
    @OTR366 4 роки тому

    Hi Doddy, could explain the new trend toward large negative air chambers on rear shocks? The Rockshox MegNeg for example. What are the pros and cons of adding an upgrade like the MegNeg. Additionally, setup tips for the claimed mid-stroke improvements. At 90 dollars it seems like a no brainier upgrade. I've got a 2020 Canyon Strive and I love to tinker with my suspension setup. I've yet to find the feel I'm looking in the rear with the RS Super Deluxe Select. So I'm considering the MegNeg but I'd really like to hear your thoughts. Thank you!

  • @reinholdachleitner2069
    @reinholdachleitner2069 2 роки тому

    Awesome video,is that Canyon Lux a 27.5?

  • @mikeloibl4692
    @mikeloibl4692 4 роки тому

    My brain was confused by repeating the same sentence in my mind "he has a mustach, he has a mustache, he has a mustache" 😁