See Why Owning This Mercedes C Class Has Been an Up And Down Experience (Long Term Review)
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- I've had this Mercedes Benz C Class for over 3 years now and it's been through a number of failures and issues, so I'm ready to give you the long term ownership review of this great car. I'll talk about what we've experienced and what we liked and didn't like about this Benz beauty.
The C Class from Mercedes is one of my favourite series of cars from them, but this has been an up and down experience.
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Mercedes has three current turbo engines-----M270/274, M260/264, and the M139. Avoid M270/274. The car in the video is probably a M260/264. To quieten that car, switch your oil to Royal Purple and never use any fuel below 93 octane. But the king and best 4 cylinder Mercedes has is the M139 which you can now find in the CLA35, CLA45, C43AMG, C63AMG, etc. M139 is designed to take a beating. M139 is very different from the M260/264 and the M270/274. The M264 is better than the M274. The battery died because the key was left close to the car-----the key kept the car awake. Keep your key more than 30 feet from the car.
Great tips and thanks so much for sharing.
@@ECPP You are welcome. If you really want a reliable non-4 cylinder Mercedes, look for the models with the M276 engine. If you find a W204 2012 - 2014 C300 4matic that has between 0 - 80,000 miles, or a W204 C350 from 2013 - 2015 from 0 - 80,000 miles, buy it. The same thing with the W212 E350 that has between 0 - 80,000 miles, buy it and keep it. All these have the naturally aspirated 3.5 liter version of the M276. But there is the 3.0 liter version of the M276 that was found in the C300 from 2009 - 2012. Mercedes twin turboed this 3.0 liter M276 engine and threw it in the C400, E400, C450, E450, C43 AMG, E43 AMG GLC43 AMG, GLC53 AMG, and E53 AMG. If you find any of these from between 0 - 50,000 miles, buy it. One of the best places to find a used Mercedes Benz is CarMax. Carmax provides a 120 point inspection . Carmax is very good. Or, you can buy these if you find them Certified Pre-Owned at Mercedes dealerships where Mercedes gives them a 175 point inspection. Based on my experience, never buy a Mercedes from a private person. There is a good chance there is a big problem with that Mercedes Benz and the cost to fix that problem is what is driving the owner to sell the car. I have owned the W203, W204, and W205. The W204 is the only Mercedes that seems to have been built like a Japanese car--it can take a beating. I have seen some W204s that looked like they should be in junk yards still running strong. W203 is pure German technology---ultra sensitive and problematic mostly because of the horrible M272/273 engine. Run from this engine as far as possible as you can----worst Mercedes engine ever. However, if you find a W202 which had the 1.8 liter supercharged Kompressor engines, those were bullet proof as well. if you find one with even 150,000 miles, buy it and fix it up---you will not regret it. Those were the Mercedes i thought were as reliable as a Honda Civic, and with proper maintenance, they easily reach 300,000 miles. To get your hands on a naturally aspirated M276 or a twin turboed M276 or an M139, that are below 60,000 miles is gonna cost you a pretty penny. The best engines Mercedes has, are in their expensive cars. Is this a coincidence? I think not.
He has a 2017 or '18 and that has the M270/274. The M264 came in 2019 and that got replaced by the M254 in '22 as well in the w213 in '21. The Mercedes key has a motion sensor and shuts off if not moved after a couple of minutes thus there is no communication between the two. I can leave my key on the roof and a couple of minutes later if I try to open the car it won't open. I would not use Royal Purple unless it has MB spec of 229.5xx, if it doesn't it is not an approved oil. The noise comes from the injectors.
@@YYZ-SRQ Good to know that it is 2017 and 2018. The motion sensor shut off is probably for the newest key fob models. The key fobs for the model in the video awakens the car when it is a certain distance to the car. The farther away you are, the less likely it is to communicate with the car. You can click the door lock button twice to stop that communication process. Mercedes also says you should change your oil once every 10,000 miles. It turns out that it causes longevity problems for these engines. I use Mercedes 229.5 in one of my Mercedes, and I have found it to be excellent. I use Royal Purple in the other, and it has worked flawlessly. I have used Royal Purple for 15 years and never had any issues with it because I change my oil in all my Mercedes at 3000 miles. So, to each his own. Royal Purple is well known in the performance world. And in fact, I even blend my own oil based on engine response, and time to heat up the oil, and how often the coolant temperature drops to 80 degrees F. My view is that I need 1 quart of 229.52 (5W-30 ) and 6 quarts of 229.5 (5W-40) in my turbo Mercedes and the other non-turbo uses 6 quarts of 5w-30 and 1 quart of 0w-40 . All of my cars use my blend of oil and oil change duration (3000 miles for the Mercedes Benz and 2,000 miles for my non-Mercedes Benz) , and not what Mercedes Benz or any manufacturer recommends. My non-Mercedes car has over 340,000 miles in 30 years of use on the original engine , which still uses the original timing chain, original timing chain guides, and original head gasket. I run it with 2 quarts of 20W-50 and 1 quart of 10W-40. My Mercedes gets 2 air filter replacements every year, which i doubt is Mercedes recommendation. I service my cars based on how i drive. I drive all my cars hard. I do not baby cars. The harder you drive, the more frequent the service required. What i never do with any of my cars is to drive with less than a half a tank of gas. I only use 93 octane i all my cars at all times.
@@ikeudechukwu5018 M272 has a balance shaft bearing issue and affects W203 05-07 and W204 08-10., however not all M272 had this issue and a serial number search of the engine will tell you if it is affected or not. My neighbour had an affected engine but drove it past 200K without an issue. The W202 never had the 1.8 Kompressor engine unless it was in Europe, The W202 and early W203 had the 2.3L M111 engine and these while rough and noisy are very robust and can be tuned to get more hp with a pulley change. In 2003 the M111 got replaced with a smoother and more efficient engine the M271 1.8L supercharged which has a timing chain issue if you neglect oil quality and changes as the chain is a single row rather than double and can stretch and skip a tooth and then you crush some valves, however you can tell if you have this issue as it wll be very noisy on start up with chain slapping which means a new chain and guides. If you maintain a Mercedes it can last a long time, I drove my 04 M271 W203 to 2020 as I went to an S205. BTW the M271 lived on and became a turbo version in the W204 C250, also this engine was bored out to 2L and used in Formula 3 racing. Best MB engines are the V8 M119, M113 and M278 all very reliable
Beautiful car, but it seems to have way too many problems with just 50k kilometres! Please continue to keep us updated on this car and if you decide to trade it in for something better and/or more reliable.
Thanks, will do! I will definitely be sure to keep the update going. Thanks for watching.
really? too many problems? that is nothing all really minor, don't forget that his car is already 6 years old, my dad had more issues wth his 2016 Accord touring edition in the first 4 years including a bad wiring harness, daytime driving lights died on one side which meant a complete headlight assembly for the tune of almost $2000 only for the other side to die a year later. constant infotainment unit issues and a slow shifting transmission and lots of body hardware integrity issues
I definitely agree the transmission shifter/stalk is in a super odd place. I rented one on vacation and when I first hopped in I was holding up the pick-up line at the airport for 10 mins because I literally could not find where to put it in drive hahaha
Haha, yes I don’t like the spot at all. Takes some getting used to.
@@ECPP if you’re an old fart like me the shifter isnt a problem because thats where it was on the old automatics that we drove for years
The engine noise is the fuel injectors. Some injector designs are loud. Perfectly normal. Very nice car.
Thanks for the info. True a lot of these modern injectors are noisey
What about that bicycle timing chain .
As a comparison I had my FK8 for five years. Apart from the normal service I paid for a set of wipers, rear brakes and two tyres. Had a lot of fun with the car and of course it was reliable, no rattles or parts coming away.
Those are more reliable than many people give them credit for.
@@ECPP 👍
To calm down that noise from the engine, switch oils. I personally use LiquiMoly for winter and Motul for summer weather
Damn.. sorry to hear about the issues!
Definitely a noisy engine, but has it always been this loud? Agreed, dipstick is great.
Sounds like the shop didn't have a battery tender on it.
Beautiful car and with so few km and warranty on it, perhaps the hard conversation with the dealership is appropriate right now, before a winter really sets in! At least you get it documented , for liability sake, with regard to the breaks, heaven forbid something catastrophic occurs.
Thanks for keeping us in the loop and let us know how it goes moving forward Mark!
Hi Thomas thanks so much again for reaching out and yes I agree, the battery tender or lack thereof probably led to the low Chabrol issue and the engine has always sounded like that, more or less. Some say possibly injectors make this so noisey, but definitely keeping an eye….or ear on it. These car dealers never fail to disappoint and I have grown to expect a level below the lowest common denominator. I really will keep everyone in the loop on this as there is definitely more to story. Hope all has been good with you as well. How are the vehicles treating you?
Mercedes- Haters...selfish greedy Ytubers only make videos for views. Toyota just called 2million Rav4's from 2013 -18 for potentially causing fire but these fools won't talk about it afraid to upset poor North Americans Toyota/Lexus owners. Watch Ytuber: The Car Care Nut to hear problems after problems Toyota/Lexus have at low mileage
Thanks Thomas, you bet I believe documentation is so important. They do it too. Have you noticed these days, most dealers prefer dealing in texting? I have and believe this is their own CYA. WE should adopt similar tools. Yes indeed the car has always had a rattly noise and others like it as well. French built engine, and not Benz.
No problem with gear changing,it’s actually very useful.
You can quickly adapt to it.
When you are driving forward and accidentally switch to reverse it won’t change the gear .
Thanks for sharing. Yes I suppose it’s just an acquired taste.
I experienced weird response when I accidentally changed to reverse as I was driving 40km/h
I have a V Class minivan running the M274. 2018 car with 38k kms. We run 95 octane fuel (as per factory recommendations) and did our service at 5000 km intervals and she’s running fine
GREAT video, I'm a 2021 C43 4matic (purchased from new and feel the same way) owner and your experience is similar to mine. Keep it while you have warranty, move it when it's done. Big fan from Newfoundland! Keep the videos coming brother, sending good vibes from out east!
Thank you very much Dave. Great to hear from a fellow Canuck. Hope you are having a great week. Cheers
Some great points I had not considered. Thanks
Great review, thank you for the lovely content. We owned a 2016 w205 for 4 years and it was remarkable. Plastic quality could be a thing as MBs are not built like they used to. We also had the noise you have and it was those horrible run flat tires. It never went away until we put a new set (OEM continentals) on year 4 at 80000km, so it was fair. I thought I was going to keep it beyond the financing time, but in February I traded it in for a 2019 C43 and I am having a blast.
Not many things to report from that either apart from the tires that I had to get a new front set. Continentals again!
Get normal Michelins for your car (and an inflator kit just in case you don’t want to be towed back home). Greetings from Toronto
the OEM Contis run flats are horrible, harsh, noisy and handle poorly, I got rid of mine after 8000km and put on a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S and it transformed the car, super sticky, comfortable, quiet and incredible handling
Really nice car man. Issues aren’t great but nothing catastrophic so far so I’d say this is a win overall though not ideal. Keep us posted.
10:47 speaking of lights. If the stalk is set to low beam while the lights are set to automatic, the headlights will look straight to the ground.
Push the stalk slightly forward to make the headlights illuminate and dim automatically
The metal can sounding rattle at startup is the fuel injectors completely normal. Mine is already at 74 miles and still running like new.. someone on Reddit has one with 227,000 miles
I think this is phenomenal as long as you use premium gas, service and on time and it will last forever..
The people that have reported the cracked piston all have one thing in common , the use of regular gas.. and also the wrist issue models between 2015 to 2017.
very helpful video
Love your videos! I have a 2016 E400 coupe. It's been a solid car honestly. The one big complaint though is the cup holders are right in front of the controls to change the temperature. What a dumb design flaw.
Also I have over 80k miles on it and still haven't had any issues. Knock on wood.
Nice
Thanks for sharing and yes there are a few design issues on these cars
Great video 📹 very interesting and informative about this vehicle 👍.
I've been watching 👀 all your videos so I 🤷 can make a decision on what to buy for my next vehicle.
I love European cars, but what scares 😱 me is that the quality is going down and the cost of fixing it and finding a great mechanic that really knows how to work on them is a nother problem.
Awesome, thank you!I I really appreciate the support.
Regarding your noise when backing up. I had a 2010 E350 4Matic. It started making a similar noise and it turned out it was bearing in the transfer case starting to fail. Apparently, the Timken bearings Mercedes used were not up to snuff. Problem is, you can't just replace a bearing. The transfer case is sealed inside the sealed transmission, you have to replace the whole transmission!
Also, I agree that the shifting lever is a poor design. Incidentally, all this happened at 37,000 miles, right after the warranty expired.
Wow, thanks for sharing and I will be giving these guys a call at the dealership. I do t want to say it but I am feeling they may have some insight as soon as I checked the car in the first time.
I've got the 2017 model, bought it 4 yrs ago with 62K Km, thank fully everything you've have mentioned I haven't experienced yet and I'm nearly at 85K Km now. However I did have one thing that really annoyed me, my Windscreen for no apparent reason developed a small 50mm crack at the centre just under the Cameras and within days spread equally from left to right. Because it has the Cameras, Rain Sensor, Radio Antenna and HUD, it cost me $2485 to replace. Windscreens without the HUD are nearly $1500 cheaper. I appreciate your video, thanks mate.
I had a 2011 c300 sport for 4 year and i loved it just once had to get the alternator replaced. Whar was great is how in the turns very little roll if fel as it was hugging the road it always felt secure
Hi Mark, my wife has a B200 cdi 2.1 2017, a lot of fixtures and fittings on these Mercedes nowadays are similar , when I first heard your engine running I thought it was diesel, shocking when you said it's petrol.
Our Mercedes now has 58k on the clock and still runs great , only thing I have noticed for a while now is on start ups sometimes the engine seams to shudder then it clears , anybody experienced this at all ?
apart from this I am just keeping my fingers crossed all stays well!
Thanks for sharing, and at this point I would say my car is quite smooth even on cold starts and have not experienced issues with that at all.
I had the same shudder with my Audi Q5 2013. It's gone now, don't know what caused it
Hey I would like to hear your thoughts on the newly redesigned GLC and the upcoming CLE. I know you mentioned the old GLC had issues on tour last video and you have mentioned the problems with your C Class coupe. I am wondering if the redesigns have addressed these issues or not?
The rattle mostly is the fuel pump. I do agree it can be quieter
Thanks for sharing
Try "seratec" Liquid moly ,for the engine noise, cold starts , olso the stabilizer for engine friction! it does work! Especially with foreign cars! You'll feel the difference as soon as you add it into your oil!
Thank You for Your videos!!!
Thumbs up!!!
Great tip! Thanks a lot. I will check into that.
it is the direct injection injectors that make the noise
I fixed the rear airbag suspension and replaced them but it didn't inflate, I checked the feus number 40 which is for the air suspension, and checked the air suspension relay which could cause this issue by not switching on and off or the air compressor itself is wet, any ideas? E70
Would really appreciate your opinion on this. I am trying to decide between a 2019-2020 540i xDrive or 3.0T Audi A6. Which do you feel offers better reliability and performance?
Mark - regarding the piano finish, I can recommend two products that are in my arsenal. Nextzett Cockpit Premium or CarPro QD and a very plush microfiber towel. Spray the Nextzett or CarPro QD on the towel, then very gently go over the surface. Those surfaces can scratch if you look at them cross eyed!!
For deeper scratches on lacquered surfaces use 5000 grit sandpaper (VERY GENTLY) followed by Brasso, Silvo and then carnuba wax.
Agreed , don't like the gear shift on the columb . Most cars have the wipers on that side!
Absolutely right. Junk
Great review of everyday use. Wouldn’t own one of these out of warranty for sure.
Thanks! 👍
Greetings from Australia. I have a 2018 W205 C class sedan. 1.5 turbo with mild hybrid boost (48v battery). It has 60,000km on it. I have it serviced per the book and I haven't had any major problems yet. Agree on comments re column storks. I wonder it I should keep this vehicle, or if the massive parts and maintenance costs will make it too expensive to keep longer term?
I have the 2015 C180 W205 with 74k Kilometers.
Thus far 1 major issue. Evaporator core went out at 60k Kilometers. Cost 2500 usd to fix, majority of the cost was parts.
I also changed a suspension arm that started squeeking while turning the steering.
Other than that just services thus far.
Im thinking of keeping the car as it hasnt given me much issues.
On what vehicle is the wiper control on the right?
I have a e300 and I agree to the little noise in the car I taken my e300 to dealer a couple times and they don’t really know
Half the times depending on which dealer you go to … the engine noise is the same on the e300 there are simpler fastener problem in the e300 with dash board ( dealers said that noise is common) kick plate on my Mercedes barely works to there are a lot great feature but couple things that quality control need to work on.
Cheets
On BMWs you can remove fine scratches from piano gloss plastic with Novus Plastic Polish 2 and a microfiber cloth.
Great tips, thanks that can help.
On the piano black finish. Buy a can of PLEXIS , it’s great on nav screens, Speedo screen, etc. also with a microfiber cloth.
It comes from the aviation world, I use it on my sport bike.
Hi can you do a review on the A45S and CLA45S that runs the M139 engine?
6:41 it did happen to me and it was a mistake. I was actually moving my hand up next thing it went straight to reverse, it started acting strange while driving.
Mine was the window buttons on the driver side.
Yikes, it seems to happen with these cars
damn man I love your videos. they way you kept a straight face why calling material junk is too funny. 8:14
I'm looking at a used 2017 C300 Coupe with 30k miles for $23k. I'm in love with the way this car looks, do you think it's worth to buy with no warranty? What if I allocate $200 a month just for maintenance and repairs? so budget $2.4k per year. I plan to get a PPI also.
I don't care about speed and I want this car to last 100k miles. do you think this will be a money pit? I'm asking you because you obvi have lots of experience with cars.
I own an Accord and the switch for the wipers is where your transmission stalk is. So, I can see myself throwing your car into reverse also.
Thank you. Yes there are many cars line that and I simply believe it is a poor design.
In my opinion, I can’t relate to a lot of the stuff that you said besides the headlights I think you are nitpicking. But I do understand the concern for every rattle squeak and pop that you might hear. I’ve had my W205 for a little over two years 65,000 miles mechanically A-1 it pulls hard and I get 34 miles to a gallon. The only thing that I have accidentally clicked over was the high beams when I was trying to turn, the windshield wipers on.
16:30
I agree too
I dislike mercedes implementation of the gear shifter..
I prefer BMW, Audi, Porche etc centre console shifter..
Great detailed video. No biase. That's what real professionals do.
I appreciate that!
Watch out with the sunroof. They tend to break easily. Don’t open it driving at highway speeds.
I agree the transmission stick should not be in that location. Too confusing.
That’s what I also thought
Take it to the next closest dealer. I had great success with a dealer who knew how to work on 2019 Nissan Titan XD diesel. The dealer was in the next town over.
I said that to my wife as well and I think we may have to change it up for a second opinion too
I have the GLC 300 and I have no problem with the drive, park, rear on the right. You just get used to it.
I can see that. My wife is used to it and most people probably would but I personally prefer console or other. Personal choice only.
Just because a car doesn't show an accident in the history doesn't mean an owner didn't just pay a buddy with a shop to fix an accident they couldn't claim because they were drunk, or didn't want to make a claim, etc.
For sure they're not built like tanks as they were in the past. I wouldn't worry about the clicking engine noise, even Hondas and Toyotas are not much quieter due to the Gdi. Overall I'd expect a little more quality control since they are known as a luxury brand.
I would hope quality was built in but when panels fall off the car on a bump in the road, it does not inspire confidence
be-careful with the sunroof im currently at 89,000miles and warranty had to cover it due to the railings.
As a C class owner for the past 18 years (W203 and S205) both have been a great car. I also know a lot about cars as I am an enthusiast and work on them as a hobby. The items that you are complaining about are really quite minor in general, body integrity is still better than any Toyota, Honda product which everything is press fit / clipped, take the center consule and move it laterally in any Asian car and you'll be shocked how flimsy it is. Addressing some of your concerns as I have a '19 C Wagon in Canada, yes the engine is quite noisy especially when idling (sounds like a diesel tractor) but smooths out once underway the noise is from the injectors. You have a M274 engine and there is an issue with some cars with #1 piston, I have a M264 and that does not have that problem, but does not have a dipstick anymore. You have more cladding on the coupe than the wagon or sedan and '17 was the first year of the coupe and I think there are some teething issues as with any new design in year 1. I have mixed up the wiper and the transmission selector once when I quickly need to wipe the windshield on the highway and selected R, nothing happened as it was locked out. It is impossible switch unless your foot is depressing the brake so I am not sure how yours bolted in gear, in fact I sometimes have a hard time selecting R if my foot is not depressing the brake enough when I make the change. The front brakes can not be greased or lubed up as they are fixed 4 pot caiipers, there is nothing that can be 'hung up' with them (single piston sliding calipers have a ton of issues especially in a winter salt laden climate) Maybe the kick feature was reworked in later years as mine if anything is too sensitive, I was sitting on the rear changing my golf shoes and one got away and triggered the rear hatch closing. Regarding lights, I have the optional lighting on my car and they are nothing short of amazing (redesigned for my M-Y). What I have learned from car ownership, always buy the mid-cycle refresh car, better is so many ways as items are revised and improved, and some of the issues are that the early years are no longer a problem, the last year for any car model year is usually way more reliable as all the issues have been solved or reworked and there is a ton of TSB that correct the issue, sometimes many parts are redesigned and the part number has been succeed with a better part that made it to the mid-cycle refresh cars or towards the end of production.
That Engine sounds just like my 2020 Ford Fusion with the 2.0 L Turbo, that Engine made a lot of noise too.
Yes some do make a lot of rattle for sure
Dealerships use recycled oil could effect engine sound imo great video man 🎉
Thank you so much. Have a great week
Thanks very much, have a great one.
The headlight adjustment issue is a real downside especially in bad weather conditions where visibility is poor. Nice car though.
Totally agree. Thank you so much
A family member of mine bought a CLA model 3 months ago. Its been in the shop with different problems for 2 of the 3 months.
Oh no. That’s not a good run
What kinds of problems?
@@MyCatIsSmarter i believe they were mainly electrical. The last one was related to the moonroof.
Mark, have you heard back from your dealership and/or forums what that scratchy rubber sound is when reversing?
Hi, no they are washing their hands and claiming they can’t find anything wrong. Must be in my head. Well, it’s well documented so I am still pursuing this issue. My wife has just thrown her arms up in the air and given up
@@ECPPSigh. Did you have a chance to post the issue on the forums, if so, what did forum members say?
Is the E equally fragile. They look nearly identical now imo.
I would just personally go for the E class or GLC, same 2.0T engine and drivetrain but bigger and more comfortable vehicle
E class is the sweet spot for Benz
There is no problems , please don’t make it worst as the car is a great car and if you look after it will never break !!!!
Thanks for watching
Never happened to me with windshield washer.
Haha, I k ow my wife laughs at me and wonders what the issue is.
That design of having the P,D,N,R selector up on the steering column is totally crap....that would stress me out 🤦
I may have found the problem. Your wife drives it! Haha just kidding beautiful car. Great video!
My 2018 GLC300 is a tank so far. About 80k miles.
Hopefully it stays like that
Beautiful car, but yeah, the quality control in German cars isn't what it used to be. I bought a '12 Accord Coupe (looks a bit like your Merc) new, and it has 90K on it, zero problems. No squeaks, rattles, only things I've replaced are the battery and tires, both wear parts and replaced at the appropriate time. I was thinking of going Merc with my next purchase but I think I'll keep the Accord as my 2nd car as it just keeps driving, and go for maybe an Acura Integra as my next primary.
Yes there are some great options s out there from Acura and Lexus for reliability
Yeah, The Gear Shift Nob's Definitely A Deal Changer With Me, Absolutely Hate It. This Nob Does Not Belong In A Mercedes, Bad Design ! Those With Attention To Detail Notice This Right Away, This Cars No.1 Turnoff !! 🤨
Great point and thanks for sharing
3:58 Is that… a Mercedes Benz water bottle?! 😂
Haha, yes it is
I agree with you in the transmission stalk location. But man thats a noisy rattly engine. I cant stand 4 cyl engines.
I agree, 4 bangers are a little noisey in general and also prefer the V6 and V8s of old
9:43 the kick feature probably didnt work because you pressed the lock button on the key multiple times instead of just once
The cylinder head on those cars will go, it’s a damn shame. Mine did at 60k miles. I just sold mine, got rid of it
Had my C200 2011 and only expensive repair was the lock on the stirring column.
Apart from this very satisfied
That’s great to hear. Overall I feel the car has been wonderful but there have been some issue.
Not too bad though. I just got a 2017 e400. 70K miles - but they say they redid the suspension in Japan. Let's see
what is the cist of repairs
What are you asking?
Noise is CV joint?
Not likely
@@ECPP I coild not hear it (that engine is noisier than my om648 diesel w/o and insulation over the injectors and w/o engine cover!). I could figure it out within 30 min. Most dealers suck.
It's no 1 million mile Lexus, so I'd get rid of it ASAP and get myself a used Lexus IS350 All Wheel Drive instead which you are blessed to have in the States, unlike here in Australia.
Just got rid of mine 2016 plate 70.000 on clock ,no real problems but i know its gunna be very soon ,just got a lexus !
There are some good options out there.
Brother ! I have e class and all the same if accidentally you hit the reverse while decking , the car will not react and nothing will happy , they already thought of that so I don’t know what you talking about !!!!
Thanks
That is a beautiful vehicle cosmetically but one thing I never liked with any cars but Mercedes does it a lot and all the c8 Corvette have the same thing a button instead of a gear shifter that is a big determining Factor if I will purchase the car or not it has to have a gear shift in the middle of the console without a dout
You'd think it would prevent you from switching the transmission into reverse if not at a full stop with the brakes applied.
One would think
I never have hit the car in reverse on accident in my Mercedes. I assumed the computer would not take the command to go in reverse while the car is moving forward
It would be great to think an interlock would prevent this action
I just sold mine, beautiful car. Absolutely great and reliable. Had it over two years and put over 40,000 miles. Sold it at 80k miles over 129,000 kilometers.
Lol funny, I had bolts just sitting there too 😂 my mechanic told me while doing a service.
Btw, the piston issue was major in 2015 only.
Only issue I personally had was thermostat.
Most of your “issues” that you mentioned are quite frankly stupid and at most minor “annoyances” like a diva complaining about her first world problems.😅
Thanks. My wife calls me
A diva sometimes
Planning to get a 2019 of those C200 With almost 50k miles. Whats your problem with termostat? Did your engine overheated? would that be a good buy in both your opinions and owner experience?
@@solidspaceaero It was a check engine light, diagnosed to be a thermostat issue, engine did not overheat but don’t risk it, get it replaced. PCV Valve issue is another common one. That’s about it.
It’s a great buy if you want a reliable car with a great interior. Comfortable especially without run flat tires on. Just keep up on oil changes, put correct grade fuel (91/93 octane) and also don’t forget to rotate tires, it’s a heavy car.
@@ArmughanSensational thanks bro, i’ll keep that in mind…also it a little risky drive without the run flats does’n it? Especially with the car not having spare tire, saw it on weekend and make me wonder, since im from Mexico and these streets are not the best and we got the concrete speed reducers everywhere 😂😂😂
@@solidspaceaero Get an inspection before you buy.
You can buy a spare kit if you want but, I went through 3 sets of tires. Run flats are very harsh and they also make a lot of noise as the tread wears out, before selling the car I put regular tires on and the car was so much smoother, it was like driving an S class.
If only Mercedes would combine their great cosmetic designs and standards to match reliability which lacks. More so can be said for any contemporary Maserati
Haha, that’s fair
What are you been talking about? How many have you owned to form that opinion? Mercedes is superbly reliable given the amount of luxury and features it provides. My family has had practically every class except A or CLA. Minimal or no issues. Pooron.
Tbh, the totally weird placement of the transmission stalk is part of why I bought an Audi A4 in April and not a CLA 250. I KNOW for sure I'd get that wrong occasionally, and my wife would get that wrong all the time and it would become a very stressful thing for her. I hate that on modern Benzes.
And I don't blame you. It's crazy how such simple poor design choices can be the difference in a sale.
As ergonomic design
@@ECPP That's almost a coherent comment.
I can tell you when I get in my partners VW sportwagon I am always switching on the wipers when I back up or when I want to get forward. It is what you get used to and why pilots only fly one type of plane all the time as you want muscle and brain memory
My C63s rocker panels also lose like yours and it only 4000 miles
I would be shocked if a Mercedes didn't fall apart 🤭.
But if someone gave me a Mercedes & payed for repairs/ servicing etc, i would love to drive one everyday 👍
Merci Canada M.T.L Québec 😂 love 😮
Hi neighbor
I need a suspension air pump compressor
I am very surprised that my 2018 MKc with a 4 cyl is much quieter than your MB
Yes it does make some noise
Wow, maybe consider a different dealership to get these problems fixed under warranty. Also, have you considered contacting MB directly? Your large UA-cam presence may sway them to act honorably. Just a suggestion...
That’s a great point and I may definitely look at that. I was sort of handling it more passively to ensure the integrity was intact, but now I am not as sure about that.
File the car under lemon law if they do not fix the brake issue. It might be a simple sound but it is possibly a major issue waiting to happen. Even get a lawyer to protect you if the stealership makes life impossible
I did hear that noise but maybe the technicians couldn't because that engine is really loud!
Me, personally, I would have gotten the W213 E300/E400
The bast or Nothing Mark
Cheers
I told you. You should have kept the bimmer
Well, still have the M5
Newer cars are too blingy. My 2005 E320 CDI is clean and timeless and it'll be on the road long after newer ones. No AWD for me; don't need it.
Coming from a 2017 GLC 300, I can tell you that besides the diesel-sounding engine, I haven't encountered any of your issues. I feel the diesel sound comes from the injectors, because as I drive, the sound drops as the transmission shifts, then comes right back. I have changed some suspension bits, the alternator and the brake pads. The rotors, while a little rusty, have plenty of life left in them. My GLC has just shy of 250,000 Km, and I bought it in 2019 with just over 100,000 Km on it. I will concur that the Piano Lacquer is the shittiest interior option 'cause mine is also scratched up, and when it bugs me enough, I'll scour junk yards for the Black Ash trim to replace it. The only real issue I've had with mine is on really hot and sunny days (think 35 deg Celsius) or really cold days (like -30C), the infotainment system decides to take time off. Later in the day, though, it comes back to life. I live in Timmins, Ontario, and if anyone from my town comes across this post, they will agree that the roads here are absolute shit. I'm surprised you have body cladding issues over something so trivial. Plus, I haven't ever had an issue with mistaking the shift lever for the washer lever, and I'm pretty sure that neither of my parents have accidentally hit it in their 2016 E400. I would chock it up to experiencing vehicles from several other manufacturers, because I occasionally (but rarely) - and I don't know why - hit the signal stalk instead of the cruise control lever, even though I haven't had my 2011 GLK since 2020 when I sold it... with 317,000 Km on it. The only issues I've had with that one was the alternator and some bearings in the transfer case took a shit. My dad and I found replacement bearings through a local supplier and we rebuilt it.
learn some manners and swear less, thanks!
Is there a setting in youtube to slow down a video so the guy sounds normal?
OH I found it! 0.75x perfect lol
That car has had more problems than my 20 year old RX300, though my old q5 beat it
mark have you called benz about your trans concern
Yes I did and had the car in for the noise but they seemed to shrug it off as a minor wheel issue. I seriously know there is more behind it so there will be another harder conversation.
Ah to many issues only 50k
I see one bmw m550i (V8) 110K mile and have no issue