So, since there is no "tool index image" (and FYI there are *definitely* proprietary tools required) here's a list of tools and supplies I made as an outlet for my annoyance with this video: -Cassette tool and socket handle for your cassette -Rubber mallet -Centerlock rotor tool or Torx wrench for your rotors -Pick -Grease -Hub oil -Bearings front & rear ($60 from I9) -Various rubber o-rings and Teflon washers that *aren't specified* and don't seem to be available from I9 ($???) -Bearing press kit for Torch hubs ($70 from I9) -What looks like a 27mm deep socket -A punch -A Wheels Mfg bearing press handle ($45) Let's assume you have the correct brake rotor/cassette tools for your bike, grease, and what I'd call "basic tools," like a mallet and punch etc.. If so, servicing both hubs will cost you $175 plus the cost of a 27mm deep socket, plus hub oil, plus your time and labor. If you don't have the basic tools it'll run you well over $200, and you still have to source the o-rings and Teflon washers from who knows where.
i9 sells them, they sell ALL parts of the hubs. If they're not on their site, just email them and they'll get them for you. That's how I got both Teflon washers
Yes, the first service will cost that much. If you ride a lot you will need to replace the bearings again. You will already own the tools, and will only need to buy more bearings. I save labor costs buy replacing bearings myself.
I think the video will save my life... I bough the TR270 32h 29" Wheelset... by phone with Freddie and shipped them to my address in Miami, but I actually live in Costa Rica, then the carrier company here in Costa Rica owns the address in Miami and will take care of them, actually the wheels are coming by ship is taking 2 weeks I think. I do not know of anyone here in Costa Rica actually servicing these brand... I think I will have to service them by myself... What a challenge!! This video was release just in time...
Hello, Tonight I serviced a Torch disc road rear hub. I've been surprised to not find any spacer ring or washer between the inner freewheel bearing and drive side wheel hub bearing. The wheel is not spinning long in freewheel, something is rubbing inside. The wheel even put in motion the crankset because of freehub friction. What could be wrong according to you ? Thank you
My I-Nine noisy, might be a candidate for a rebuild. Two weeks ago while riding on the street, my pedaling saw resistance (with equal amount of resistance to backpedaling), to the point I had to walk my bike home. Taking my bike to Wheel World in Culver City, Ca, the mechanic placed a washer next to the cassette side drop out, holding it in place with grease. Then, he put back on the rear wheel assembly, secured the wheel with the thru-axle, and now the cassette spins freely. It looks like the hub retracted (possibly due to wear), allowing the side of the cassette to rub against the drop out. The washer kept the hub (and hence the cassette) away from the drop out. Does this sound like a rebuild is needed? If so, which parts should I order? Thank you. The hub came with the bike, ordered in 2017 from LaMere Bicycles out of Minnesota.
On i9's website, under Support > Torch, there is a picture of a workbench on which sits a tub of light blue grease. The tub is labeled Sta-Lube Water Resistant Marine Grease, which is made by CRC Industries. From the product description at CRC Industries: "MARINE BOAT TRAILER AND 4X4 WHEEL BEARING GREASE. A blue tacky, aluminum complex grease using a highly refined base oil. It has been formulated with a polymer to provide adhesive, non-blend and water wash-out characteristics. Will resist water under the most severe water conditions."
just got my Torch hubs a few weeks ago. 1:39... from where can i get extra teflon seals? am preparing for a 2600-2800km tour across the peninsula of India in July. it's going to be rainy weather. just ordered tools and bearings as well.
So, since there is no "tool index image" (and FYI there are *definitely* proprietary tools required) here's a list of tools and supplies I made as an outlet for my annoyance with this video:
-Cassette tool and socket handle for your cassette
-Rubber mallet
-Centerlock rotor tool or Torx wrench for your rotors
-Pick
-Grease
-Hub oil
-Bearings front & rear ($60 from I9)
-Various rubber o-rings and Teflon washers that *aren't specified* and don't seem to be available from I9 ($???)
-Bearing press kit for Torch hubs ($70 from I9)
-What looks like a 27mm deep socket
-A punch
-A Wheels Mfg bearing press handle ($45)
Let's assume you have the correct brake rotor/cassette tools for your bike, grease, and what I'd call "basic tools," like a mallet and punch etc..
If so, servicing both hubs will cost you $175 plus the cost of a 27mm deep socket, plus hub oil, plus your time and labor. If you don't have the basic tools it'll run you well over $200, and you still have to source the o-rings and Teflon washers from who knows where.
Sheesh. Yeah. Sometimes just bringing it to an LBS is worth the hassle
i9 sells them, they sell ALL parts of the hubs. If they're not on their site, just email them and they'll get them for you.
That's how I got both Teflon washers
Yeah that's why I regret not buying premium DT SWISS wheel set instead. No proprietary tools needed and much easier maintenance.
Man, I need a 2mm hex key for my White Industries hubs, lube, a blind-hole puller and press+drifts...that's it.
Yes, the first service will cost that much. If you ride a lot you will need to replace the bearings again. You will already own the tools, and will only need to buy more bearings. I save labor costs buy replacing bearings myself.
I need to know the full list of tool shown in the video...
I think the video will save my life... I bough the TR270 32h 29" Wheelset... by phone with Freddie and shipped them to my address in Miami, but I actually live in Costa Rica, then the carrier company here in Costa Rica owns the address in Miami and will take care of them, actually the wheels are coming by ship is taking 2 weeks I think. I do not know of anyone here in Costa Rica actually servicing these brand... I think I will have to service them by myself... What a challenge!! This video was release just in time...
Would be cool if you guys linked to all the products used in this.
Specially the tools.
@Atticus Alexander definitely, been watching on flixzone} for months myself =)
Hello,
Tonight I serviced a Torch disc road rear hub.
I've been surprised to not find any spacer ring or washer between the inner freewheel bearing and drive side wheel hub bearing.
The wheel is not spinning long in freewheel, something is rubbing inside.
The wheel even put in motion the crankset because of freehub friction.
What could be wrong according to you ?
Thank you
Glad to see a service video with an actual well used bike.
Also just got a 101 wheelset made and its just mechanical silk. A++++ I9
My I-Nine noisy, might be a candidate for a rebuild. Two weeks ago while riding on the street, my pedaling saw resistance (with equal amount of resistance to backpedaling), to the point I had to walk my bike home. Taking my bike to Wheel World in Culver City, Ca, the mechanic placed a washer next to the cassette side drop out, holding it in place with grease. Then, he put back on the rear wheel assembly, secured the wheel with the thru-axle, and now the cassette spins freely. It looks like the hub retracted (possibly due to wear), allowing the side of the cassette to rub against the drop out. The washer kept the hub (and hence the cassette) away from the drop out. Does this sound like a rebuild is needed? If so, which parts should I order? Thank you. The hub came with the bike, ordered in 2017 from LaMere Bicycles out of Minnesota.
Looks like the end-cap grease is not the same as the freehub grease. What is the grease used on the end-caps?
On i9's website, under Support > Torch, there is a picture of a workbench on which sits a tub of light blue grease. The tub is labeled Sta-Lube Water Resistant Marine Grease, which is made by CRC Industries. From the product description at CRC Industries: "MARINE BOAT TRAILER AND 4X4 WHEEL BEARING GREASE. A blue tacky, aluminum complex grease using a highly refined base oil. It has been formulated with a polymer to provide adhesive, non-blend and water wash-out characteristics. Will resist water under the most severe water conditions."
That's weird. My front axle spacer looks different than that one. No O-rings on it either. I wonder if it's different because mine is a centerlock
just got my Torch hubs a few weeks ago. 1:39... from where can i get extra teflon seals? am preparing for a 2600-2800km tour across the peninsula of India in July. it's going to be rainy weather. just ordered tools and bearings as well.
Could you tell what hub bearing press tool you are using please?
How often should service be done?
What types of grease are best to make it more quiet?
Use the Dumonde Tech Pro X free hub grease for quiet.
wounden't a very light greace be better than oil?
How often should Torch Hubs be serviced (i.e. time and/or mileage)?
I do it every time I noticed that the sound is louder and is because it's dry.
Nice video! what kind of grease do you use? can i use motorex bike grease?
I think they use DuMonde Tech PRO X Freehub Grease...
Great video but I would've definitely cleaned the wheel before so as not to possibly get any dirt etc on my new parts
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