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  • @bhz10
    @bhz10 2 місяці тому +213

    They're desperate to keep 5v5 because it's the ONLY thing that justifies the "2" on Overwatch 2

    • @bumblebeekaiodinson331
      @bumblebeekaiodinson331 2 місяці тому +13

      No it Doesn't even Justify that, it's simply an Attempt at tricking people Into thinking That it Does
      It's Just ow with the Update Not a Sequel
      The 2 Only makes sense for story mode

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 2 місяці тому +7

      ​@@bumblebeekaiodinson331they even abandoned the story mode completely lmao

    • @Ajaylix_history_shorts
      @Ajaylix_history_shorts 2 місяці тому +3

      Can you all just stop repeating these things it's annoying to scroll down in comments and seeing the same thing

    • @bumblebeekaiodinson331
      @bumblebeekaiodinson331 2 місяці тому +1

      @@CBRN-115 yea That's What I'm Saying, the 2 Makes Sense for Story version, Since it's not there, Neither Should the 2

    • @Controvxrsy
      @Controvxrsy 2 місяці тому

      There doesnt need to be a justification for 2. Secondly, moving to free to play is single handedly enough justification.

  • @Qwertzym0onsif
    @Qwertzym0onsif 2 місяці тому +472

    overhealth is the new doubleshield

    • @CROSSFADE69
      @CROSSFADE69 2 місяці тому +36

      Give it 4 years and it will get worse then double shield.

    • @PinocchioThatBoi
      @PinocchioThatBoi 2 місяці тому +16

      ​@CROSSFADE69 4 years game is dead and nobody gonna play it ever again

    • @Goomsies
      @Goomsies 2 місяці тому +6

      Not as bad as double shield. It's a fine direction for them to take tank abilities. The mental gymnastics it takes to say this is worse than 6v6 is crazy.

    • @ilmstreams
      @ilmstreams 2 місяці тому +26

      @@Goomsies wrong.

    • @depthcharge5091
      @depthcharge5091 2 місяці тому

      @@Goomsiesthe mental gymnastics to think that this okay while denying 6v6 is insane. Peon

  • @Westbrook__
    @Westbrook__ 2 місяці тому +242

    "We think venture is quite good, and feels fun to play and fair to play against"
    *one paragraph later*
    "We're nerfing venture"

    • @Georgian502
      @Georgian502 2 місяці тому +22

      Honestly good they're a stupid af character. Nobody likes immortality and constant boops. I really don't get all the praise they get.

    • @Westbrook__
      @Westbrook__ 2 місяці тому +49

      @@Georgian502 “immortality” it’s literally like a worse reaper wraith. Has a long wind up. Also if we’re still complaining about getting slightly nudged in ow in 2024, just log off, it aint the game for you. Stuns are more understandable since it literally removes ur ability to play the game…. Boops do not.

    • @Georgian502
      @Georgian502 2 місяці тому +21

      @@Westbrook__ boops/cc are still way too much in this game especially as a tank. One isn't that bad but getting Lucio booped, Orisa speared and javelined, Ana slept and now Venture drilled and having them jump up in front of you in a 20 second time frame is just too much.

    • @Westbrook__
      @Westbrook__ 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Georgian502 i still think boops are fine. You can out maneuver and simply dodge boops. The real problem for CC is stuns and slows. Boops last what... half a second? And you can still play the game during that half a second?
      Stuns usually last longer and remove your ability to play the game. Slows in this game probably last the LONGEST.

    • @PainxSorrow
      @PainxSorrow 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Georgian502 brig boop too

  • @ContraGrain
    @ContraGrain 2 місяці тому +62

    Season 10 literally is just the team saying, “Season 9 changes were a step in the right direction… BUT…” and honestly yea, I used to be pretty supportive of 5v5 but over the past month Samito has made a great case for 6v6 and the Ball changes reinforce that. Ball was an off tank area denial hero in og OW, not a barrier hero. He doesn’t need to play like a mainline tank but in 5v5 there is no option.
    God I really hope they finally realize 6v6 is the easy way out.

    • @luminen4051
      @luminen4051 2 місяці тому +5

      Good ball players in high ranks could still use him as a main tank too playing things like ball hog or ball dva
      Just reinforcing how unnecessary this change is

    • @Meowblivion
      @Meowblivion 2 місяці тому +2

      that’s what I said all the way back with the roadhog rework.
      NOT EVERY TANK NEEDS TO BE A FRONTLINE TANK!
      There are so many different playstyles but the devs are stuck in the mindset of “tank means you’re the raid boss at the front that the enemy team needs to get past.”
      Sure that’s the case for orisa or rein or rammatra and even sigma in some cases. But the entire tank role isn’t some massive wall of fuck you that can’t really fight back!

    • @ContraGrain
      @ContraGrain 2 місяці тому +5

      @@luminen4051 that’s more or less what I’m getting at. Under the current system ball can’t really achieve his full mechanical potential because you’re railroaded into being THE tank because you literally are the only one. Tank interplay doesn’t exist anymore

    • @luminen4051
      @luminen4051 2 місяці тому

      @@ContraGrain Exactly, a good offtank was absolutely essential for those comps. Combined with all the shutdown abilities it's rough in ow2

    • @matthewbrears2129
      @matthewbrears2129 2 місяці тому +2

      If people realised that Ball set up away from the team, then the team engages when he slams, he would be fine. (And also, Hack shouldn’t remove him from ball form, which would be in line with bastion and ramatra ‘form’ abilities.)

  • @JonezBBQ
    @JonezBBQ 2 місяці тому +140

    Blizzard is still holding onto that metric from when OW2 launched and it had the most players it ever had. Everyone I know has either quit this game entirely or despises it whenever they play.

    • @PainxSorrow
      @PainxSorrow 2 місяці тому +13

      lmao same bro i play ts like once every few months after like 2 games i get off cause of how boring 5v5 is

    • @Falloutx360a
      @Falloutx360a 2 місяці тому +9

      Yeah Overwatch is the only shooter I’ve liked. Basically since battlefield 3 and I only pop in a few times throughout a season now

    • @Primal_Echo
      @Primal_Echo 2 місяці тому +5

      I despise it when I play it. I come back for like two weeks tops from time to time. I just left again.

    • @Aw3someOpZ
      @Aw3someOpZ 2 місяці тому +6

      I know I now play Helldivers 2 more than ow2 now. Kinda hate putting all of the mechanical, carpal tunnel syndrome inducing mouse aiming I got to do, positioning, and game awareness, but all of that gets trumped by some no aim, no brain, get out of jail free ability.

    • @cabstevens
      @cabstevens 2 місяці тому +1

      If I even play I can barely last 2 matches before I am immediately reminded of the horrible system design flaws this game has now.

  • @candy1049
    @candy1049 2 місяці тому +28

    I don't see why Blizzard constantly insists that most support heroes (Namely Kiri, LW, Bap) should be able to both make and negate game-changing opportunities with the press of a button while simply looking in someone's general direction,
    but Damage and Tank usually need to sweat their ass off and play perfectly just to barely get any real value (Only for it to usually be overwritten by a support doing the bare minimum)

    • @Chazza-01
      @Chazza-01 2 місяці тому +6

      Moira doesn't really "negate" abilities. Putting her in the same category as Kiri, Bap, LW doesn't seem right. I mean yes she has her orb but whenever I play DPS it isn't like I am complaining about her using it. Usually Moira fades out of danger, throws an orb and then tries to kill you but you can kill her in that window of time even with a heal orb. Suzu, Lamp and Grip are definitely more annoying and doesn't have counter play unless they waste it so then go in for the kill.

    • @naverich4603
      @naverich4603 2 місяці тому

      I think it's because support is the most 'casual' player base and it is easy to pick a support. So why not make the game fun for them?
      I love playing support myself but I hate that I basically can't play anything else in comp than Kiri or Bap because they can do everything by pressing one button. Suzu and Immortality field are so busted.
      Just yesterday I fucking nanoboosted my queen, she ulted into an enemy team and Illari on top of that ulted the same group of enemies and their kiriko just pressed E and suzued all the ultimates basically.... 😅 wow.

    • @heyyou9903
      @heyyou9903 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@naverich4603 Suzu in this instance reminds me of mass Rez as least that was another ultimate but still

    • @Desgaroth
      @Desgaroth 2 місяці тому +1

      well of course they need to sweat their ass off. You're talking about a 1 vs 2 situation. It's an uneven field to play in, so you need to put more work into it, unless your character is strong enough to be as effective as two people. Which will never happen, because that kinda balance will be even more poison for the game. Without the second tank in the match, you will always have a form of asymmetrical gameplay. And there are barely any games that actually thrived on that gameplay mechanic.

    • @TheLastEgg08
      @TheLastEgg08 2 місяці тому +2

      Moira? Negating? The other three 100% but Moira doesn’t give such utility. LW’s grip is fine cause the CD is big but the fact that aoe immo is a thing really makes LW’s grip even worse to deal with.

  • @TheRealInternalRevenueService
    @TheRealInternalRevenueService 2 місяці тому +21

    If it’s nostalgic to want 6v6 back then it’s delusion to believe 5v5 is better.

    • @CesarCaballero-ui8tp
      @CesarCaballero-ui8tp 2 місяці тому

      @Fultonian-ve1ibI think 5v5 supporters have the opposite of rose tinted glasses which is funny, when they think of ow1 they automatically think of double shield

  • @GutterWizard27
    @GutterWizard27 2 місяці тому +22

    I’m a ball otp, and ngl the rework feels like it addresses plat complaints about wrecking ball and then threw in some new tech to keep the ball mains happy. It doesn’t solve a single one of his actual issues.

    • @malicious8767
      @malicious8767 2 місяці тому +4

      Just gonna give something else for plat and below to complain about when they see a ball.
      “Why aren’t you shielding us??”
      “Stop hogging all the overhealth!”
      “You let the team burn all of your shield? You’re throwing, you’re inting. Tank diff!!”
      Gonna be goofy af to hear about

    • @TheLastEgg08
      @TheLastEgg08 2 місяці тому +1

      Have ANY of the current reworks adress anything? Hog is just more of a DPS than before with ZERO team based concept. Sombra’s most annoying gimmick was the perma stealth and hack in stealth, they adressed non of it and just made her hella lethal to characters like Ana, Zen/Mercy (in certain cases) which makes Bap, Kiri even more required than before.Symm got reworked three damned times and she’s still niche and now lost all her originality. Orisa’s rework is SO ASS that she’s either a monstrous juggernaut or shitty paper sheet staring at the wall. Rein’s “rework” addressed non of his core issues and I can continue for hours. Let’s not mention the questionable designs they came up with in OW2, mainly LW, Mauga, Kiri and launch Sojourn.
      I hope this new team can come up with much better hero concepts that are actually fun and engaging but also healthy for the game. I think Venture is a step in the right direction.

    • @Dooby_Scoot
      @Dooby_Scoot 2 місяці тому

      @Fultonian-ve1ibthat really made him much worse. His kill time is so slow now that it’s impossible to get picks when a support is alive

    • @Cozythreats
      @Cozythreats 2 місяці тому +1

      The reduced cd on grappling hook when you don’t hit fireball explicitly helps ball against CC at all levels. Just hating and you don’t even know how this will play out.

  • @mr.miscellaneous9144
    @mr.miscellaneous9144 2 місяці тому +30

    Bro! I called it! i was talking to my sister about what changes theyd probably make to ball, and i said more than likely theyd make adaptive shield apply to all allies. In a 5 v 5 world with only 1 tank, you have to make every tank protect their allies in some way. Ball is an off tank, a disruptive hero, but more and more theyll make tanks past and future be the exact same boring playstyle.

    • @Yea___
      @Yea___ 2 місяці тому

      I remember years ago "predicting" this with hog as a joke
      It might be a reality in the future

    • @ZykoYFF
      @ZykoYFF 2 місяці тому +1

      Ball was a main tank not an offtank, dont pretend you played ow1 😂

    • @saswag2004
      @saswag2004 2 місяці тому +5

      @@ZykoYFF ball was a disrupting off tank. What you gonna do as main tank ass ball ? facetank the rein and shoot peas at his face ?

    • @ZykoYFF
      @ZykoYFF 2 місяці тому +1

      @@saswag2004 Main tank ≠ frontline
      Main tank = forcing attention/cooldowns from the enemy team, high survivability
      Off tank ≠ not frontline
      Off tank = peeling for your team, helping out main tank
      Main tanks: Rein, Orisa, Ball, Winston
      Off tanks: Sigma, Dva, Roadhog, Zarya

  • @Apocalypse754
    @Apocalypse754 2 місяці тому +140

    Ill come back to OW once it becomes OW1 again. And i can assure you a lot of us want that back

    • @lukeaustin4465
      @lukeaustin4465 2 місяці тому +16

      They could only do that by making overwatch classic which they could easily do but clearly the overwatch devs have too much pride.

    • @Reager
      @Reager 2 місяці тому +7

      A lot of people also does not

    • @PainxSorrow
      @PainxSorrow 2 місяці тому +12

      I mean that IS the game we bought imagine if overwatched launched in 5v5 w 40$ pricetag it would be doa

    • @davefunk135
      @davefunk135 2 місяці тому +9

      for real please sell me overwatch classic right now EVEN WITH HOW IT WAS WHEN IT WAS ABANDONED id still never play overwatch 2 ever again.

    • @rowsic159
      @rowsic159 2 місяці тому +2

      Rebranding it as Overwatch Classic, with music videos, new skins, rank reset, 6v6, etc would probably work. IDC do whatever to bring me back my 6v6 hanamura

  • @Beanigez
    @Beanigez 2 місяці тому +23

    Giga buffing tanks and destroying the game before just going back to 6v6

  • @doublep584
    @doublep584 2 місяці тому +28

    I just don't understand why they buffed the health if they are just gonna make players unkillable when there is a ball on there team

  • @nashovoscallando1098
    @nashovoscallando1098 2 місяці тому +9

    Being a samito fan and a 5v5 defender had got to be the hardest thing ive ever done, its like liking spicy food but having a super low tolerance for hot sauce

    • @BeastMode-bw2ry
      @BeastMode-bw2ry 2 місяці тому

      Lmao I mean you get the best of both worlds at least.

    • @medicfdumbo
      @medicfdumbo 2 місяці тому

      Lol true. I liked 5v5 in base or beta ow2 and I still feel like it can work. Tank was actually really fun back then

  • @MrBlushroom
    @MrBlushroom 2 місяці тому +13

    Samito is the king of "i told you so"😂

  • @josephsmith5989
    @josephsmith5989 2 місяці тому +13

    We’re officially at the point where for the first time in 3 years, I genuinely have no desire to play the game. Kind of sad. But the game just isn’t good anymore. I just want to troll on old bastion and dps doom. Wish there was an ow classic

  • @furry.killer.69
    @furry.killer.69 2 місяці тому +18

    The intellectual rigor displayed is impressive, like witnessing a masterful performance.

  • @sebaccimaster
    @sebaccimaster 2 місяці тому +7

    Team 4 should hire samito, no joke

  • @tyrantla7120
    @tyrantla7120 2 місяці тому +96

    Don't give up on getting 6v6 back!!

    • @viksta6834
      @viksta6834 2 місяці тому +10

      Idk man.. it really feels like them reworking both Doom & Ball were the final nails in the coffin.

    • @saswag2004
      @saswag2004 2 місяці тому +4

      When they finally rework my King rein, then I will actually quit the game for good. losing dps doom already took a toll on me. I cant lose my second main to 5v5.

    • @hayven3494
      @hayven3494 2 місяці тому +2

      @@saswag2004 Agreed. I tried playing rein as he's my main since the beginning of ow and I had issues getting out of metal ranks and diamond xD. I'm fairly confident in my abilities and yet I felt like I was useless most of the time. That guy is just not suited for the 5v5 format. I'm glad I haven't tried to play this game for the last year until now.

  • @kaden3490
    @kaden3490 2 місяці тому +151

    Overwatch fell off with 5v5

    • @chancellorpalpatine9237
      @chancellorpalpatine9237 2 місяці тому +41

      And nobody asked for 5v5 either

    • @jrodd13
      @jrodd13 2 місяці тому +28

      Overwatch fell off with Brig, Moira, and Bap

    • @harmansingh95100
      @harmansingh95100 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@jrodd13 real

    • @pippo17173
      @pippo17173 2 місяці тому +1

      It fell off way before that and they didn't know how to balance it at all.

    • @Ronin-kk4bt
      @Ronin-kk4bt 2 місяці тому +1

      Facts

  • @Hsjackow
    @Hsjackow 2 місяці тому +5

    Not sure why there aren’t any changes for Hanzo and no one is even talking about it, If Hanzo can’t one shot (which I think he should be able to ), they might as well make him into Cassidy with a bow. (Lower damage, faster fire rate, and less movement penalty for charging his arrows.)

  • @thewolfgirlexpert
    @thewolfgirlexpert 2 місяці тому +17

    I am very uncertain about the DOT change to Venture. Venture is the most fun I've had on OW in years getting the combos off felt amazing, and it isn't like there wasn't time for someone to react and save someone who is caught out of position. I have a feeling it is going to feel horrible, unless the DOT ticks very quick.

    • @mckookie2967
      @mckookie2967 2 місяці тому +4

      yah unnecessary nerf like the pharah changes

    • @ronan1686
      @ronan1686 2 місяці тому +4

      DOT is honestly so annoying. I hate killing someone just to die to one of their abilities. Or have to wait a few seconds until i die because I can't make it to a health pack or support in time.

  • @BeastMode-bw2ry
    @BeastMode-bw2ry 2 місяці тому +54

    The grappling hook change is good but the adaptive shields is basically just the same boring ability every tank has. Queen shout, Mauga cardiac, ram block, Hog breather. As a hog main, I liked old breather that only healed 350 hp in a short amount of time with 50% DR, but had a big weakness in being canceled. Now it's on a resource which does increase the skill ceiling slightly but that weakness is gone with BETTER stats. When will this boring design of removing weaknesses end?

    • @Karatarari
      @Karatarari 2 місяці тому +8

      It'll end if 6v6 comes back, as Tanks need more and more shit to keep them alive for longer as people stare them down constantly so they either need team utility or being extremely stubborn at the dying thing.

    • @BeastMode-bw2ry
      @BeastMode-bw2ry 2 місяці тому +9

      @Karatarari Exactly! I don't want to be a 800 hp dps that can survive the nuclear fallout. Roadhog was more of a bruiser tank instead of a brawl tank that's what made him special, but now he's just forced to be the main tank instead of an off tank that can flank and get a sneaky pick and be a threat with his damage. Now he's just a damage sponge that occasionally does something. We have lost gameplay styles by like half by removing a tank while making the game more boring and simple.

    • @KiraMahMan
      @KiraMahMan 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@BeastMode-bw2ry I was actually a big fan of roadhog in OW1, he was my 3rd most played hero after rein and Winston but I just despise hog since OW2 came out both to play as and to play against.

    • @kregman6928
      @kregman6928 2 місяці тому +1

      @@BeastMode-bw2ry gameplay styles have not changed at all in 5v5 and ball being more useful as a tank will not make the game worse in anyway as long as the numbers are fine. ball was useless, rather, ball is completely useless unless you are a one trick ball god. and even then, he is useless for the team. he didnt work in overwatch 1 as a tank and he didnt work in overwatch 2 as a tank. they have to change him slightly to make him useful for the team in some way shape or form. they are infact, nerfing balls overall survivability because now he cant get 40000000 overhealth from pressing one button and now has an actual decision to make, does he keep the overhealth or does he spread it to his team. this is what we call a good idea for an ability. tradeoff.

    • @BeastMode-bw2ry
      @BeastMode-bw2ry 2 місяці тому +2

      @kregman6928 Wdym? I cannot flank as hog anymore because if I do, I leave my team to die and I get called out for throwing. Ball cannot flank and be a disruptive tank and annoy the backline making them use their cooldowns so your main tank can push up. Instead he has to have teammates in order to kill anything and if he doesn't he just feeds the enemy team ult charge. And on top of that, all that cc he used to bait in 6v6 is now ON him instead and any ounce of cc just kills him! So now instead of being able to hide and ambush characters, flank, and take different angles these two tanks are just stuck with their team and forced to play main tank and eat all the damage like it's a hot dog eating contest. We might as well just call tanks "Juggernauts" instead of tanks because of all these insane abilities they need to have just to actually have fun on the game.

  • @masterfy24
    @masterfy24 2 місяці тому +10

    When I saw the stuff about Wrecking Ball, I want to take a couple shots like WHAT ARE WE DOING

  • @SleepTrip2000
    @SleepTrip2000 2 місяці тому +19

    6v6 was PEAK overwatch, back when everyone was just having fun. Keeping 5v5 to keep the pros happy (which is a small group relative to casual players) is stupid. Add a mode, the OW2 team needs to swallow their pride and just admit OW2's reason for existing was a failure and just add 6v6 as a MODE, keep everyone happy. I don't understand the fear of just adding a mode, it's the most braindead decision but yet here we are, another video, another season of DEBATING and nothing really interesting happens, we come back for a bit, then leave, an overly boring cycle.

    • @PainxSorrow
      @PainxSorrow 2 місяці тому +5

      because they know ranked and qp que times going to 10 up asf cause no one likes 5v5 💀

    • @heyyou9903
      @heyyou9903 2 місяці тому

      ​@@PainxSorrow and when that happens replace 5v5 with 6v6

  • @Sahilow
    @Sahilow 2 місяці тому +71

    Wrecking ball rework before we get 6v6 sadge😢

    • @MarvelousButter
      @MarvelousButter 2 місяці тому +4

      my hero is ruined

    • @renjia3504
      @renjia3504 2 місяці тому

      5v5 is fine does this guy ever get over it

    • @nathancasey7712
      @nathancasey7712 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@renjia3504yeah, you're right it's "fine" but not incredible or amazing

    • @depthcharge5091
      @depthcharge5091 2 місяці тому

      @@renjia35045v5 is good if you suck at the game yeah

    • @TheHellsingHQ
      @TheHellsingHQ 2 місяці тому

      ​@@renjia3504"fine" lol

  • @FrancoDFernando
    @FrancoDFernando 2 місяці тому +43

    People would actually respect them if they just owned up to it and admit that they made a mistake and they’re bringing back 6v6

    • @lukeaustin4465
      @lukeaustin4465 2 місяці тому +6

      It's funny because they could easily make overwatch classic while also keeping overwatch 2 so that both sides can be happy. The 5v5 change split the playerbase because there is still a large swath of the playerbase who prefer 6v6.

    • @user-fg6mq3dg3d
      @user-fg6mq3dg3d 2 місяці тому +4

      It would take them to humble themselves down and give up their ego and accept that they were wrong, which is quite unlikely sadly

    • @Primal_Echo
      @Primal_Echo 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@lukeaustin4465 maybe... It may split the player base too much. And then they'll be those cringe people that say stuff like, "of you're diamond in 5v5? Guess that means you're silver in 6v6 oMeGaLuLkEkW*coughhackchoke*"

    • @lukeaustin4465
      @lukeaustin4465 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Primal_Echo you get those kind of players in any pvp game lol. But yeah with regard to ow classic they could easily do it they are just choosing not to atm. I remember when wow classic was being requested and they were like "it's too much work, we don't have the code" etc. Then they realized just how much money it would make them.

    • @kripo7398
      @kripo7398 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@lukeaustin4465i despise them for not doing it. Valve had absolutely no issue with keeping CS:GO available to play for those who wanted, you can still play it on community servers.
      It is possible, Activision Blizzard just wants to force you to play the game with predatory monetization.

  • @luminen4051
    @luminen4051 2 місяці тому +5

    1 step forward 2 steps back as always with these devs

  • @jacobbrady173
    @jacobbrady173 2 місяці тому +6

    I wish content creators like spilo and svb would stop telling us we need to stop talking about 6v6 I really like those guys but like we genuinely prefer 6v6. So I feel like have the right to share that opinion.

    • @medicfdumbo
      @medicfdumbo 2 місяці тому +2

      Svb went down the drain imo he used to be very fair but now he just says "that's fucking stupid" with everything he disagrees with

  • @mossup-
    @mossup- 2 місяці тому +4

    and I thought the Devs said they were listening.....

  • @Nixxos
    @Nixxos 2 місяці тому +1

    All the changes besides the overhealth on wreckingball increase the skill ceiling a lot and i love it

  • @SteveInTheZone
    @SteveInTheZone 2 місяці тому +7

    blizzard these fools dont know 6v6 is the way

  • @rwolf8076
    @rwolf8076 2 місяці тому +6

    5v5 also makes Rein perma F tier. He *needed* an off tank for utility and peel. In OW2, Rein feels the least fun tank to play. I miss being a Rein main 😢

    • @Ronin-kk4bt
      @Ronin-kk4bt 2 місяці тому

      Rein is almost unplayable which sucks because I like playing him

    • @juusoleinonen
      @juusoleinonen 2 місяці тому

      I really hope they dont rework him, hes literally perfect rn

  • @sunbear3324
    @sunbear3324 2 місяці тому +2

    Sam keep fighting the good fight. Been a 6v6 advocate for a year now, no logical reason why the superior format shouldn't be the way forward.

  • @kevlowry
    @kevlowry 2 місяці тому +34

    BRING BACK OCTOBER 2020 6V6

    • @Ronin-kk4bt
      @Ronin-kk4bt 2 місяці тому +1

      Amen

    • @MayC23
      @MayC23 2 місяці тому

      Nah I dont need a break shields simulator

    • @TheHellsingHQ
      @TheHellsingHQ 2 місяці тому

      ​@@MayC23Play around it lol

    • @juusoleinonen
      @juusoleinonen 2 місяці тому

      @Fultonian-ve1ib Even current Brig is op

    • @twright8439
      @twright8439 2 місяці тому

      ​@@MayC23 The double shield was not a problem until Sigma arrived, the double shield of Orisa and Rein was a mediocre composition.

  • @Aw3someOpZ
    @Aw3someOpZ 2 місяці тому +2

    Samito went from the crazed guy with the dart board with yarn connecting ideas to, the guy telling someone to answer the phone because HE FUCKEN CALLED IT!

  • @moonpig660
    @moonpig660 2 місяці тому +4

    they just dont want to admit 5v5 was a mistake and sole reason was queue times because ppl didnt wanna play tank so instead of making tank fun to play to attract ppl they doubled down on making it even less fun, I was mainly a tank main with support being quite close and since like season 2 i havent played tank since.

  • @fkweaboos2759
    @fkweaboos2759 2 місяці тому +3

    Ahh so the only buff we get on rein is one that matters 3-4 times in a game. Legendary

  • @HotMokha
    @HotMokha 2 місяці тому +3

    Can't wait for them to reveal Reinhardt's new damage reduction passive in Season 11 that he can sometime apply to his nearby allies

  • @corytheworm3513
    @corytheworm3513 2 місяці тому +3

    Abilities that are: Hit one button and become unkillable like Orisa Fortify Mauga Cardiac Sig grasp Hog vape always feel BAD to play into! And don't make for interesting gameplay decisions. Making them passively effect teammates doesn't feel good. It only feels bad for the enemy team

    • @juusoleinonen
      @juusoleinonen 2 місяці тому +1

      Sig grasp is ok bcs u can cancel it

  • @kingvalor8265
    @kingvalor8265 2 місяці тому +4

    If they are giving ball a shout ability and buffing lifeweaver I’m convinced devs don’t play the game

  • @Koriiii
    @Koriiii 2 місяці тому +2

    Devs: “In S9 we are increasing health pools and adding a dps passive so healing isn’t so OP”
    Same Devs: *Buffs healing and overhealth immediately after*

  • @tpain809
    @tpain809 2 місяці тому +1

    I also hope the Overwatch 2 team stops huffing copium and finally says that they were wrong and brings back 6v6 for the future of the game we all love.

  • @marvynjeanbaptiste3206
    @marvynjeanbaptiste3206 2 місяці тому +4

    The devs are just making more work for themselves when they inevitably add back 6v6

  • @yukilemon1235
    @yukilemon1235 2 місяці тому +1

    I want to see a 6v6 version 5v5 with you and spilo. I think it would settle the debate either way it goes. Both of yall have actual well spoken points

  • @DillonMW
    @DillonMW 2 місяці тому +1

    This hits home for me when they started adding perks to call of duty. Yes, there was a time where CoD was just a raw shooter with no upgrades and you switched to your pistol to run faster 😂

  • @adalwolf8328
    @adalwolf8328 2 місяці тому +1

    Every tank is eventually going to turn out the same:
    Either a) "Dps-tank" with good movement and a different flavor of AoE healing
    or
    b) Unkillable brick with insane self sustain and CC
    Very nice format 5 v. 5 is...

  • @Randomness662
    @Randomness662 2 місяці тому +3

    5v5 is the problem with tanks
    The problem with Ball is the baby ass teammates that can't do shit without a shield to hide behind

  • @C2ED
    @C2ED 2 місяці тому +3

    Tbh the issue isn’t so much the game is bad at this point it’s that it’s no longer a competitive game you guys still see this game as a “competitive” game with good core fundamentals and individualistic gameplay with diverse heroes, However Overwatch is no longer a game meant for competitive gamers or anyone looking to play the game seriously the game is meant to be a casual game to have silly fun with your friends the characters have lost all individually with the introduction of every new hero doing what old did but better and with every rework and nerf and patch we just get a new state of a already dying game it’s like beating a dead horse the game still has potential to be better but that’s locked behind the developers egos who refuse to acknowledge the real reason their game isn’t doing well and hasn’t been doing well for years they’d much rather rerelease and make new mercy skins for quick cash grabs and the casual player base.

    • @AYAKXSHI
      @AYAKXSHI 2 місяці тому

      And what’s crazy is keller won’t admit he said multiple times this game is competitive but they patches say otherwise

  • @cweisman
    @cweisman 2 місяці тому +1

    I feel that changes like these, like you said, make the characters I enjoyed playing as an OW1 main tank player lose their identity. Which is why I'm not a fan of 5v5 and why I agree that every day we get closer to every tank just being an unkillable meat shield that has to enable their team through means other than controlling or taking space for their team (i.e. self-burst healing that also applies to allies), something that felt super rewarding while playing heroes that didn't require very much mechanical skill. It's just unfortunate, because the only way to combat all the issues that the removal of a second tank brings is by adding "april fools experimental patch"-esque changes. These changes only mask the actual issues with the format itself, only creating more issues on top of it. But to be honest, Blizzard has been masking issues instead of fixing them probably since dive became meta back in 2017 and the addition of brig to combat it, and we all know how things turned out since then.
    Also, maybe this is a hot take, but I don't really care for the new grapple changes. I personally feel like overcomplicating abilities isn't good for the game; where there's subtle or hidden nuances behind abilities (such as the new cooldown conditions and mechanics for grapple). If you messed up grapple you have to learn to get smarter with your grapple usage and learn how to get better at using it to go where you want to get to. It just goes back to that forgiving nature that OW2 is trying to implement; changes that are probably good for the majority of players (and frankly probably necessary for the lack of a second tank), but ones I don't like to see as someone who has always played the game more competitively as it seemingly kills the learning curve of a lot of heroes.

  • @SpineBreakerZ
    @SpineBreakerZ 2 місяці тому +3

    I think at this point they have done so much to make 1 tank work when I think it might be easier to see if 6v6 was better. Maybe they make a 6v6 mode to try and we can see from there. As a tank main tho I would love to try 6v6 again in this game. Idk it might make me play again.

  • @ecclecticsayonce5131
    @ecclecticsayonce5131 2 місяці тому

    I’m so excited for venture guys

  • @MiaoNya
    @MiaoNya 2 місяці тому +2

    The only acceptable shields that're being placed on allies are those like Zarya's bubble, or Reinhardt & Sigma's Barrier (Indirectly)
    It is a large part of their hero identity, and poor use of those shields can actually be punished. They allow for player agency and fuel healthy interaction.

  • @Primal_Echo
    @Primal_Echo 2 місяці тому +1

    I agree. I want to see suzu's power limited if not gone entirely. Which would be the best option. Give her an AoE burst heal baility or something instead. Like make suzu either cleanse ONLY on a shorter cooldown, like ashe fire, anti heal, wounds, status effects (and still not cleanse ultimates or hard CC like rein shatter/mei freeze) OR make it a 1 second invulnerbaility. It 1,000% does not need both. I shouldnt have to track suzu to make sure i can ult in freaking gold lobbies.

  • @melee9183
    @melee9183 2 місяці тому +3

    I think overheath can be alright if it's done properly. The only character to have overhealth not be an issue is lucio. I think if they add either 1. Huge commitment to the overheal so there's actual decision making and 2. Make it a skill shot. Both those things would at least make it so these abilities take time to learn and get good at rather than providing baseline value.

    • @sebastianrodriguez8992
      @sebastianrodriguez8992 2 місяці тому

      I think they should just lean into it taking his health
      They said 300 but if that's too little up the number so he has to commit when using that ability

  • @naverich4603
    @naverich4603 2 місяці тому +3

    I have to admit I play mostly open queue because having 2 tanks (I always play one and it is quite easy to get a second one) feels soooo great. I can't even describe it. Feels just right for some reason. We need 6v6 back. 5v5 is subpar

    • @PikachuComments
      @PikachuComments 2 місяці тому +1

      I agree, open queue is GREAT. A second tank, the other tanks are less meaty, and when you stack you get less of the comps like 1 tank 3 dps 1 support

  • @AscendedBeyond
    @AscendedBeyond 2 місяці тому +1

    I cant wait for doom to do 25 dmg with his punch with a overhealth shout in season 20 when he inevitably gets power crept out.
    Kill me

  • @filipesimoes1343
    @filipesimoes1343 2 місяці тому

    You are mostly right, but Balla new shields seem to BE The best version of giving overhealth for allies we got yet, since ball needs to give up his shields to buff his allies

  • @1ARSONIST546
    @1ARSONIST546 2 місяці тому +1

    Now we have to deal with Tracer with 250 HP and Sombra with 350 HP. What a great game we are playing.

    • @prismaticpaul
      @prismaticpaul 2 місяці тому +2

      tracer has been consistenly at the top of dps in ow2 since, well, forever, except season 1 where the enemy sojourn decided who gets to play the game on your team. I already wasn't a fan of ball tracer comp this season but it looks like it's only gonna get worse. She needs some nerfs, not to her abilities but to how easy it is to apply dps passive and with zero risk (1 bullet is enough for the full effect), and to damage, because now it's easier to hit all the shots and that translates to you dying at roughly the same rate despite everyone getting a health increase.

    • @1ARSONIST546
      @1ARSONIST546 2 місяці тому

      @@prismaticpaul agreed

  • @shinigami_ow8903
    @shinigami_ow8903 2 місяці тому +1

    Its brig all over again we basically almost have like 2-3 brig heros in the tank category

  • @elimayer193
    @elimayer193 2 місяці тому +1

    6v6 with 5v5 tanks would honestly be so fun and so chaotic. Think about a junkerqueen mauga tank line, or zarya orisa or doom wrecking ball, cool combinations and possibilities would be endless and simultaneously wed see characters like zen become more relevant as they were designed way more to work in 6v6

    • @MayC23
      @MayC23 2 місяці тому +2

      Truth is you would only see the 2 tanks with shields in comp. I am all for 6v6 but there should be a limitation to only beeing possible have 1shield tank.

    • @elimayer193
      @elimayer193 2 місяці тому +1

      @@MayC23 i guess, but what tanks r u thinking, because rein and winston both have shields, but rein isn't super viable becuz of his old fashion design, and winston is the only dive tank with a shield, so like, ram sigma???

    • @lukeaustin4465
      @lukeaustin4465 2 місяці тому

      ​@@MayC23in paladins if the enemy team are running a double shield comp we just buy wrecker and max it out lol. Don't see why overwatch can't have an item shop system in game.

  • @sortascouseace
    @sortascouseace 2 місяці тому +2

    I don't mind LW buffs, but they always change the wrong parts of his kit, he doesn't need more healing but they buffed it to 80 for... Reasons he doesn't need more damage either. all he needs is more fluidity. Revert his passive auto reload, and either fully charge his first blossom after a weapon swap or have him release one at low charge every time he switches weapons.this should encourage weavers to be more aggressive and use his gun.

  • @MrNoor113
    @MrNoor113 2 місяці тому

    Im still gonna scream for the stars that they need to add a mini-map or at least a pve heal pool so we can see our team-mates health. It'll be the greatest quality of life change in overwatch.

  • @vergilsgamingchair8772
    @vergilsgamingchair8772 2 місяці тому +1

    Yeah I also thought that there's no way to know if Venture will be really good or really bad until tested on comp. Quickplay are just bronze lobbies.

  • @Steve-sp4rx
    @Steve-sp4rx 2 місяці тому +1

    El rigor intelectual mostrado es impresionante, como presenciar una actuación magistral.

  • @Kalishta00
    @Kalishta00 2 місяці тому +12

    I played Paladins for a while with some friends, it honestly felt more like OW than w/e the game is nowadays, lol. Sadly, It doesn't feel like blizz will ever go back, so here I am, hoping Marvel Rivals will be good enough.

    • @lukeaustin4465
      @lukeaustin4465 2 місяці тому +1

      I like paladins purely because two tanks are always meta in that game lol

    • @pippo17173
      @pippo17173 2 місяці тому +2

      Paladins has the benefits of making sure you are giving the options to counter/deal with abilities without counter swapping. It also helps that the load out system makes it more tolerable.

    • @AYAKXSHI
      @AYAKXSHI 2 місяці тому

      @@pippo17173definitely i hopped on paladins as absolute scrub and even against better opponents i still felt like i contributed to my team in some way

  • @shawndean5952
    @shawndean5952 2 місяці тому +1

    Characters that I think should never be good because the make the game feel horrible when they are
    Tank: ROADHOG,ORISA,WRECKING BALL, ZARYA, DOOMFIST
    DPS: BASTION,GENJI,JUNKRAT,MEI,PHARAH,REAPER, SOLJORN,SOMBRA,TRACER,WIDOW notice how it’s almost half the dps
    SUPP: ILARI,KIRIKO,ZENYATTA,WIFELEAVER,MERCY,MORIA

    • @PikachuComments
      @PikachuComments 2 місяці тому

      Broski that’s way too many characters 😂

    • @shawndean5952
      @shawndean5952 2 місяці тому

      @@PikachuComments I know but unironically it’s true, they make the game feel horrible when there too strong

  • @clinteastwood14896
    @clinteastwood14896 2 місяці тому +2

    Make it 6v6
    Delete kill denying abilities like suzu, lamp and lifegrip
    Buff Rein
    Do those things Blizzard and I will love the game again.

  • @darryltorres7302
    @darryltorres7302 2 місяці тому +3

    Tanks are feeling more and more like dps and supports than actual tanks. They should just slightly nerf tanks' overall damage and slightly focus more on their bulk, that'll take away the hard counterswapping. Have them actually act more like tanks instead of glorified dps with higher health and support abilities. In a 5v5 format I've always thought tanks should be the last to go in a team fight, not the first. If not, then just bring 6v6 back at some capacity.

    • @BeastMode-bw2ry
      @BeastMode-bw2ry 2 місяці тому +3

      Counterswapping can't be fixed. You'll just move the counters around. If we gave Hog 1000 hp Orisa wouldn't be as big as a counter, but Mauga would become the hard counter instead due to his high damage output and life steal. He'd gain so much health from the Hog that he'd become extremely hard to kill without anti or discord.

    • @darryltorres7302
      @darryltorres7302 2 місяці тому +1

      @@BeastMode-bw2ry then how about nerfing Mauga's damage further. The point I was trying to make was to not have tanks feel so threatening with their damage and abilities but feel threatening with their bulk instead. Less of a spiked shield and more of a brick wall. Have their ults be the same fight winning abilities.

    • @BeastMode-bw2ry
      @BeastMode-bw2ry 2 місяці тому +3

      @darryltorres7302 I know what your going for and it's a good idea but as long as there is one factor vs another factor, there will always be a better character no matter how we change the stats. The only way to stop counterswapping is to make them all the same character basically but that just ruins the identity of all the tanks and makes the game dull and boring. It was a good idea though unlike people that just say "MAKE ReIN FireStrike set people on fire!".

    • @BeastMode-bw2ry
      @BeastMode-bw2ry 2 місяці тому +2

      The better abilities will always win.

    • @PikachuComments
      @PikachuComments 2 місяці тому +1

      That’s what I said. Tanks shouldn’t be immortal, but dying first in the game is also pretty bad ☠️

  • @dorrianbrooks9408
    @dorrianbrooks9408 2 місяці тому +1

    I thoroughly enjoy Lifeweaver, and honestly, the only thing I want for him is a buff to his reload speed. I dont even care if it's just for his thorns only, I just hate how often his slow reload gets me killed.

  • @victorrdz7312
    @victorrdz7312 2 місяці тому +1

    I feel like the overwatch devs way of fixing problems is just making another one

  • @exion7458
    @exion7458 2 місяці тому +2

    Yayyy new video :)

  • @davidlicea8971
    @davidlicea8971 2 місяці тому

    It's the I told you channel.

  • @Hoboslayer679
    @Hoboslayer679 2 місяці тому

    Yea im a ball main and when i saw that i jus laughed cuz i knew that was gonna be insanely broken. Im definitely hitting gm again next season

  • @ejonestoo
    @ejonestoo 2 місяці тому

    I think you hit the nail on the head with the generalist comment. It feels like Tank is becoming the third support, which is why the game felt miserable when supports were over tuned and they had to create the dps passive. It's just frustrating because Tank was my most played role until OW2, and now I don't want to touch it.

  • @uriahthegreat5004
    @uriahthegreat5004 2 місяці тому +1

    Kinda weird that they mention venture voice actor as some sort of huge praise.

  • @davefunk135
    @davefunk135 2 місяці тому +3

    right as always. I hate the direction this game is consistently going, I used to love it so much, I've been playing this shit for 8 years now as my only game, and every patch since ow2 i fall out of love with the game a little more. The casual vision this team has for overwatch is not the way to go. I really dislike it and they're making an incredible mistake in my opinion.

  • @bc6607
    @bc6607 2 місяці тому

    Im just gonna go ahead and say that i MUCH preferred all the hard CC over this constant need for everyone to have over health

  • @inkromancer_studios
    @inkromancer_studios 2 місяці тому

    It's not their "personality" that draws people to Venture. They're power creep incarnate.
    2 passive instead of 1, 2 dashes instead of 1, 3 uses of her ult instead of 1. She's literally just more of everything...

  • @YazzPott
    @YazzPott 2 місяці тому

    Me: cool a new Sam take thats awesome!
    1 second in: AND THIS IS WHY I PUSH THE 6v6 NARRATIVE!
    Me: okay never mind have a good day sir

  • @salemkhamis6788
    @salemkhamis6788 2 місяці тому

    and this is why i play quake arena and unreal tournament

  • @saswag2004
    @saswag2004 2 місяці тому

    Lifeweaver buffs legit making me tweak right now

  • @P-39_Airacobra
    @P-39_Airacobra 2 місяці тому +1

    Sadly, I'm starting to think that we're not going to get 6v6 unless we deliberately and universally boycott the game. Blizzard is the sort of company that's only going to make a decision that's guaranteed to increase their revenue.

  • @jewbee_5364
    @jewbee_5364 2 місяці тому +1

    This update worries me, if they start to rework tank abilities that allow them to apply some sort of over health or damage mitigation to allies it's just going to push more and more dps out of the loop. Even at this current state (diamond above), a lot of dps are significantly weaker than some, sojourn/soldier/ashe/widow/cass/tracer are some* examples of heroes that are clearly just better because they either are good at ranged duels, or have CONSISTENT* (keyword) high burst damage, OR their value at the floor level is so easy and good that justifies just picking them. Characters like junk/sym/echo are going to be pushed even further out of being a decent pick because now because either their damage is inconsistent or the way to play them optimally is countered by a much easier to play character or character that excel in countering the weaker dps.

  • @laughingnotlooking
    @laughingnotlooking 2 місяці тому +2

    Alright, the non-believers are starting to believe. We know where this is going, Sam has been warning you all. I need to start placing bets, for when the devs bring Sam into the Blizzard office. To help with new gameplay changes and previews. Of course it will probably be: Jake, Flats, Sam, Eskay, etc. But eventually after 6v6 returns, there will be more transparency. Once Blizzard earns back the trust of players they claim to have blacklisted. Then the game will have returned back to the top. Back where it should've been years ago!

  • @DawnK204
    @DawnK204 2 місяці тому

    I hope just there Bring the Old Health Points for All Heroes back

  • @RhodesianSuperiority
    @RhodesianSuperiority 2 місяці тому +1

    Played for a solid 5 hours at gold-plat today with a 3 stack. We played against a masters or higher smurf NEARLY EVERY GAME. I uninstalled and told my friends im not playing again. This game is absolute shit and hearing this just reinforces my decision. I hope this game dies

  • @Mason999_
    @Mason999_ 2 місяці тому +1

    I used to play ow1 and have the most misserable horrible teammates and lobbies but I still enjoyed playing the game even tho I was misserable. In 5v5 I have the same horrible lobbies and teammates but its the worst experience in gaming. 6v6 needs to come back but it never will cuz the devs ego and they cant admit they were wrong

  • @faris_tash3414
    @faris_tash3414 2 місяці тому

    Ultra rare Samito W

  • @fls661
    @fls661 2 місяці тому

    I can’t rely on supports to heal me, but every patch I can rely on my tank to fill that role…lol

  • @Sukarettoroz
    @Sukarettoroz 2 місяці тому +1

    I miss being in gold in ow1 where i didn't have to think now i just miss my tank being able to live for more than 5 seconds don't even wanna play ranked no more masters and gm got a lot of cheaters and qp is beyond boring i hate that i don't wanna play my favorite game anymore

  • @j.jonahjoestar7924
    @j.jonahjoestar7924 2 місяці тому +1

    at first i leaned towards 5v5 cuz i liked the faster pace of s1, but with all this overhealth shit and slowing down of the game, really has turned me to samitos side. Especially after i listened to the great arguments he made, Keep up the good work man!

  • @WintonPeanutButter
    @WintonPeanutButter 2 місяці тому +2

    I was reading the wrecking ball shield change and had tge same reaction. Its going to be so aids

  • @lolocads17
    @lolocads17 2 місяці тому

    So can the 6v6 defenders and 5v5 defenders ever find a common ground ow 1 had the 2shield and ow2 has a no shield problem. I did not play after 2k17 at later season did tank role got devided between off tank and tank(shield tank) where the shield tank and another shield tank hero could not pick two shield tanks on a game?

  • @fluepidemic9584
    @fluepidemic9584 2 місяці тому

    If they ran a 6v6 season and it went poorly, would that kill overwatch?

  • @iph2
    @iph2 2 місяці тому

    Didn’t overwatch 1 have counter swap too?

  • @karmasmessenger3815
    @karmasmessenger3815 2 місяці тому

    Solutions to save ow2
    1) Aaron Keller leaves, in steps Kaplan
    2) Remove pride from game, this should be something the end user celebrates not forced to others, we aren’t in nazi germany btw
    3) hog junkrat and torb nerf
    4) buff genji widow hanzo and Ashe
    5) 6v6 was fun without double shield, solution? See option 7
    7) split tank role, one a dmg type of tank and other a shield.

  • @recon1506
    @recon1506 2 місяці тому +2

    This is why i quit playing tank all them basically do the same thing or have it do a little different not to mentioned all u do in role Q is just counter 4 to 5 times a match

  • @hotramen5952
    @hotramen5952 2 місяці тому

    it was never going to work.

  • @undyne6280
    @undyne6280 2 місяці тому

    I will always be a Samito fan.
    But it’s tough being a Samito fan now that I’m a LW player 🥲🥲🥲

  • @VegitoTheGodFader
    @VegitoTheGodFader 2 місяці тому +3

    Overwatch has been on the up as of late the only thing keeping this game from being peak is the format (also Sam pls do a widow urtgm be the villain)

    • @PainxSorrow
      @PainxSorrow 2 місяці тому

      commit

    • @VegitoTheGodFader
      @VegitoTheGodFader 2 місяці тому +1

      @@PainxSorrow ur right, I should commit on the things that make me happy. Thx for the advice friend 😀