ARE GTO'S SLOW? NOPE JUST HEAVY, HERES WHY!
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Aye Trey I heard the gtos had problems with the fuel lines an things that should be replaced when purchasing or before purchasing the cars is this true or not an if it is what all should i look for to be replaced before I buy one since its my dream car?
I never though it was slow.... I knew it was “heavy” .... a lot of people get surprised when I smoke them!!!
... I love my NA 421ci stroker puts in work!!
My brother got one about 4 months ago while he was working away from home, 70k miles on it, 2006, (headers, full catback exhaust, intake and some tires.
He bringed it to my hometown here at San Luis Mexico and man its indeed a great car and one that nobody sees everyday, it's getting rare and it packs a punch!
agreed. the GTO is a great base to make a car that will preform as well or better than the cars of today.
I agree, specially with how heavy sports cars are getting.
For the time it was released it wasn’t really slow but to GM fans I think it was. It wasn’t a step up in performance but a step up in comfort/quality along with the CTS-V
The 04-06 gto is a real true to heart muscle car. Just like the challenger is. They both derive from sedan platforms. So when you think of the gto as a (400lb lighter) direct competitor to the challenger and not to the pony car Camaro/mustang it starts to make a lot more sense, the humble styling, even the 3700 pound curd weight (which is not that heavy compared to the modern offerings).
Love my 04 GTO🥰. Had it over 10 years and still burning off rubber.
I never understood the "GTOs are heavy" comment.
Heavy when compared to what? A Corvette? If so then everything is a tank by comparison.
2006 GTO curb weight = 3,725
2006 Mustang GT = 3,600
2019 Mustang GT = 3,705
2006 CTSV = 3,850
2018 CTSV = 4,141
98-02 F bodies = 3,500
2010 Camaro = 3,750
2018 Camaro SS= 3,685
2019 Challenger RT = 4,232
2006 Corvette = 3,214
Danger Noodle the cars of the same time of the gto. New stuff is heavier
@@TreyHerrera at the time the GTO did have the nicest interior and people forget, back in 2004-2006, there weren't many V8 rwd options. A 100 to 200 lbs difference to me didn't justify being classified as "heavy". Especially when that could be remedied by what you mentioned.
Gto came with an iron block why dont any1 say this & new camaros & corvettes hav alumium blocks if u put an ls3 in a the GTO it would be 109 pounds lighter making it 3616 boom its not heavy just an iron block
@@chrissizemore745 wasn't said bc it isn't true. GTO's came with the same ls1/2 as the same year Corvette.
U put some cars manal & some v6? First 06 mustang auto is 3650 & 2010 camaro v8 ls3 is 3913 i gota 06 gto with ls3 init & lightin down too 3500 after i get my wheels wana sc itul be still less weight than stock around 3675 with sub frame con.& 2010 camaro dont hav a spare tire eather ur right thou its dumb every1 says gto heavy but really its Not with the ls3 init its way lighter than a 2016 camaro prob.100 pounds bc they hav a alum lt moter inum & mustang does too & the vett & the caddy & gto gastank in trunk thats so dumb it got screwed by gov.thats.25 more pounds from cage around it the austrailian holden dont its 3700 pounds im with u thou its a dumb too say a gto heavy when 2010 camaro 3913 with alum ls3 lol it be over 2tons with ls2 init
Thanks for all the insight on the GTO!! I just bought a 2004 model. 5.7 liter and it turns heads and I get nothing but compliments! Love this car! Fun to drive....
Trey, a week ago I just bought my 05 Goat with 52,000 on the clock! Your channel has been immensely helpful for me planning my project, and I’m even gonna daily it!! Thank you so much and keep throwin vids our way!!
KodiHood glad I can help 👊🏽👊🏽
This is a hard one to explain to people, I'm glad you made a video on it. 👍
I just picked an 04 5.7 GTO with 55k miles. Always wanted one finally got one ! 🐐🐐🐐
Seen a few of your vids now, and love the GTO coverage. Im coming from a 1979 Z28 Camaro project to a 2004 GTO. Your vids are damned helpful and have great delivery. You've got yourself another sub, Sir. Keep 'em comin'.
Perfect explanation video🙌🙌 keep em coming man🤙🤙
I don't care what they say I love this car and this car has been a beast from the day it came out and it's still one now
My 06 hangs with 5th gen camaros pretty good. I have no complaints, love the car, even after owning it for 13 years. Someday I will do some heavy mods. I love your content and look forward to your uploads.
Chad Everhart thank you for the support! I love our cars!
How ab maintenance? ( stock suspension , wiring issues etc) you ever have any problems like that?
I run an auto trans. The stall converter is a must. It really changes how the car reacts.
holy shit, an intelligent comment
Hell all the new Corvette and camaro's got there new platform from the 04-06 gto's, look it up people, Thanks to you 2 man for repping our gto's ,luv my 200 mph GTO 😎
I love the songs on the background. Lupe Fiasco!
Juan Jalomo glad you liked that! 👊🏽
That last statement is what some people NEED to hear.
I can't wait to start on my LSA GTO .
Hi Trey . Im in UK Got a Monaro VXR 5.7 but Over Here its 387bhp. LS1Corvette. But on this Don't have Twin Pipes Fuel tank is much bigger So just 1 on the Left. Great Vids mate Cheers .
Power to weight ratio just right goat power 🐐🐐🚀🚀
I'm glad you love your car...enjoy it build a track car on the side. I love all my cars even knowing they are not the fastest out there. I just wash them take t tops or targa off depending on the car and sit in traffic waiting on the thumbs up.
I love the joe budden podcast like intro.. great info on this and other vid with what not to mod. You discussed alot on manual cars, what about the Automatic gtos?
Quality ride, handling, quiet with windows up !! 6 speed fast.
Fair points bro! Those of us in the Honda community make similar if not the same arguments when it is said "You did that much work just to get 200hp?! Lol". Lighter cars built at a different time. Plus most cars from the factory are made to be comfortable for average consumers - they're watered down essentially. Remove the hindrances and voila! The power almost magically appears!
Solid motor mounts and transmission mounts are way to harsh for street driven! Go with poly mounts if you drive your car more on the street!
well put!!!
Somebody's a big Lupe Fiasco fan. Respect! BTW I miss my GTO :-(
blckmgc322 yessir lupe the truth! Get another 😈👊🏽
@@TreyHerrera Man homie, I want to so bad! I had just about full bolt-ons and then the transmission started slipping bad. Sold it to one of my guys, but I wanted to keep building on it. It's all good though. I got a 2010 Grand Cherokee SRT8 now. But your channel helps me remember the good days. Keep up with the amazing content homie. Definitely gained a subscriber
My 66 was right close to 5,000 pounds and ran 11,s in 1/4 mile,and all I did back in the early 70,s headers,750 double pump Holley, hi lift Isky cam,on 70,s pump gas
I find that hard to believe with that much weight, and bolt ons only. What was the MPH at the end of the 1320?
Love my 06 M6 car.
What tire and rim size do you have on the car at this time? And did you have to roll the fenders
Gotta red gto I’d say there very fast considering the year and how regular cars are now
people have a hard time grasping what horsepower a car has at a given time when it was produced.
I have a ton of race cars from the gnx too my g8 gt my gto is my favorite car i drive i have a ws6 01 with the 6.0 its dam fast but the gto get it every time the only thing that runs as clean is my 57 bel-air 427 twin TURBOS it moves all lightened but my gto is not stock at all its about the same as the vette and the Cadillac if they were all stock
You have got to add a "Stiffy" to the engine to reduce Torque deflection with factory Engine/Transmission Mounts
I have an 06 GTO an i know for a dam fact there not slow ..
I have an 06 GTO an i know for a dam fact there not slow ..
What's a stiffy if I may ask?
No more needs to be said after that last sentence bc that it is very true. I have scion tc 05 ( blasaahabalah(haters)) but I've have done almost everything can to a legalese daily to the engine for just raw (emphasize on RAW power) no turbo or charger yet and I get alot of smiles to frowns real fast.
Just want reiterated on his closing statement. "Doesn't matter what you own you can make it fast"
I really wanna Ethier get an 06 gto or 2002 ws6 for a weekend/strip car. Still trying to decide but love your videos..
ws6 in my book, cheaper or about same price, lighter and looks just badass
You gotta badass car homie, I wouldn't even entertain explaining shit to these trolls !!!
The Nissan s14 weights 2895 stock. But the GTO is a seriously interesting car.
im in the market for a clean manual 6.0 rn, people telling me to get something newer. I say for the price what else would I get
I've removed unnecessary weight in my GTO and it's crazy on how it performs just 300 pounds lighter! With a few bolt ons.
Yes its a game changer thats pretty much why I made this video!
@@TreyHerrera For sure dude! Your a favorite to watch keep it up dude!!
I don’t have any major mods and I feel like it’s already to fast for the street. I have my racecars for the track, the gto is just fine for me when I want to play with mustangs on the street.
Slow or fast I love the gto the look the sound awesome ride
Id say it has more to do with the people that own them and not the platform. Most people dont do the simple weight reduction you can and allot of them are riding around with hot air intakes wondering why they lost to a 5.0
chris sherburne very true!
BMR offers all aluminum skid plates that shave 10 lbs. over the 25 lb factory plate.
Shaun B I run mine with out it
@@TreyHerrera same! , also took out tow bracket, gas tank brace, and put a lighter coil over suspension, and alum 1piece ds
These days, everyone is a keyboard warrior. Your car is sick. Those who say it's slow, ask for their time slip. Or see what they have that's faster. 9/10 have nothing. Don't listen to haters. Let's ride soon man. I'll fill you in on my build too
Patrick Dillon yes this is true! I’m down too!
Anyone got links for 04 gto one piece driveshaft?
Check out the 99 Pontiac gto concept car and you'll see it on the road today 🤗CHEVY
Being a gto owner it is pretty slow compared to other cars now a days. 1,000 hp is the new 500 hp from back when the gto was made.
Still a great fun car. I'll never get rid of mine.
💪 💪 💪 ☝
Have you ever drift your pontiac?
I've had my 05 m6 gto for 6 years now. I got it when it was mostly stock and I did headers, exhaust and intake pretty much right away. It was never a slow car and is a easy car to modify. I just got done doing a budget procharger build last week. Twin disk clutch, Engine is completely stock and I made 540whp on 8-9 pounds of boost, 630 crank hp about. Now the car is scary fast. I've heard weight matters less the faster your going so weight reduction would probably be more effective at the track than on the street. I mainly daily drive mine so I can't risk being without a spare tire and jack.
Plus there is a 8 second gto that uses cement bags in the trunk for more traction so weight transfer would probably play a big role as well.
I like your build though. I almost did the lsa swap but I wanted a procharger more and found a good deal.
If I'm not mistaken you live somewhat close to me. I'm just west of houston.
i was gonna say a "budget" procharger build? lol but that makes sense if you found a deal somewhere. i looked up what a new one costs and dear lord.
@@dltafrc17 yeah, I got real lucky. I bought a old p1sc kit, like 2003 that came off a truck for $800. Almost got everything setup and bought what else I needed new. Then I happened to come across a d1sc head unit for sell by itself for $1000. It was on a ctsv. But it turns out he had bought it originally from a gto so he had the intercooler some of the piping etc. That he threw in for free. He also had a little bit of random piping from procharger kits from a mustang and something else. So I took the piping I had and kind of Frankensteined it together. It may have 28 hose clamps lol but I have zero leaks and it works. I then sold what I had left from the p1sc kit for $1000. All together I think I spent the same as what a new procharger kit cost which is pretty good when you add up the cost of a twin disk, 1000cc fuel injectors, ptfe fuel hoses, dyno tune, fuel pumps and etc.
@@Johnballs2 damn that is a great deal overall. Haha if it works it works!
Want to see a scatpack vs the gto, feel like it would be a good race
Lucas L My stepdad has a stock scatpack Charger that i have raced a couple times in my mostly stock 06 gto, the GTO keeps up until it’s time to shift, then that dodge 8 speed out does my shifting ability.
@@z.johnson936 time for a shifter upgrade!
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@@chadeverhart2451 These new automatics are going to be faster than just about any person can shift, there's no denying it.
You have to throw your body into the shifts to beat these new cars
To hell with the haters. You don't got to explain yourself to them.
My 04 automatic has only headers and an exhaust n ive yet to lose to a 2018 RT challenger and charger😂 dig and roll
You in AZ?
I’m planning on doing similar stuff, adding an intake, headers, midpipes with h pipe, and a tune (stock muffler). I’m an 05 though, with an automatic as well but I also have a 1 piece aluminum drive shaft and a shift kit. Eventually I’ll do suspension but I also have lighter 18” rims. I would think that would help me keep up as well but I will see
let's run
You ever go to the track??
Here's my 2 cents. EVERYBODY complained about the Fbody interior and Corvette interior. The GTO was ahead of it's time. The suspension and interior were light years ahead of most GM products, EVEN the Corvette interior that time was in my opinion inferior to the GTO. Also this platform is now 15 years old now? Kinda stupid to compare this vehicle to new cars. I would say you could compare it up to the model year 2014 cars. From that point on these newer cars have such an advantage. From engine updates to transmission updates. Now cars have 8 and 10 speed transmissions that keep the car in its powerband. This car is more of a touring muscle car, if such a category exists. Very unapreaciated and underestimated vehicle. I traded my 2001 WS6 for my 2006 GTO 6 speed cyclone grey metallic. Let me tell you what, you can't compare I wouldn't trade it for anything even a new performance vehicle. Easy to work on and now a lot of electronics b.s. to go bad. I know this particular vehicle has it's own quarks but once you drive one you would understand.
Bring it to the next pikes peak airstrip attack.
On UK pump fuel 99 octane the Monaro hits 60mph in 5.3 with the ls1 5.7l , so not slow by any stretch of the imagination. Where I find it struggles is pulling hard once your in 4th. Although ive had mine round past 160 just as I shifted to 6th and started running out of road. All this on the stock car apart from a cat back and a k&n in the air box.
I'm also carrying a heavy ass kicker sub in the trunk, plus spare wheel and all the other bracing you mentioned.
My Instagram is monaro_uk
It's only slow if you dont know how to drive it accordingly.. but I honestly never seen them as being slow..
I have a 2006 dodge magnum srt8 that has a 5.7L hemi weighs 4800lbs and I beat a jaguar f type weight isn’t ALWAYS a bad thing because it helps counter tirespin and it’s a fucking station wagon
Its also ok not to hack up or mod the GTO. Im keeping my 06 as original as possible as it is a collectable and a street car 😎
Jd Texan good thing it’s my car and I do what I want 🤷🏽♂️
Stock is boring
@@TreyHerrera "its my car and ill do what I want" you are fuckin gay as hell. You act like a little kid
Its a gran tour car. People want the gto to be a trans am but its not its an gran tour and trans am is a sports car.
Bro what’s your IG?????
Trey way
Thought this video would be the car running down the road not a mouth running.
You get a 6.0 gto with the 5 speed and put bolt ons, cam, and you strip the interior you beating damn near everyone
No such thing as an 04-06 gto with a 5speed
Mine is 3270 with everything stripped
AUSTIN KEYS do you have a list? I would be very interested I just got a 06 m6 yesterday I’ve been looking up Weight reduction info online but I don’t come up with much
Hassan Osman Trey hit everything in his video that you can ditch. I also ditched my back seats, replaced my front seats with light aluminum seats. Rear door panels. All new suspension so lost weight there and carbon fiber hood. You have to loose a lot to get where I am at, probably not something you want to do if daily driving it. Hope that helps.
I've seen cyclone mustangs beat down a gto w headers, exhaust, tune, and tires. the mustang had a tune
ive seen pegasus,whats your point?
Yoyoyo
Hell, a bone stock 04 scares me. The fastest car I've driven is a 02 Monte Carlo SS, though. 200hp and FWD. Boring.
I have a manual 04 I got with 6000 miles (now at 70k) tons of mods. Love the car to this day
I beat a Roush Stage 2 S550 in my bolt ons only 06 GTO. They’re not slow lol
Lol sure
Really?? Wtf those s550 are fucken fast dude
sure ya did
Guys it’s a stage 2. I think that’s only a body kit, suspension and maybe exhaust. I could possibly see a stage 3 outpacing as them it’s supercharged so what Noah is saying makes sense
Stock 2004 LS1 GTO is around 4300lbs. It's a tank. But they are not slow by any means.
shanewhatshisface your Gto is the heaviest I ever heard of!!
Curb weight is 3725 this is common knowledge
It was around 4280 when mine was weighed. I'll blame the scale. You see to know your shit a little better than I do.
I would rather have seen some of the parts you were talking about removing than seeing your face all the way through the video.
Bad Axident don’t watch my videos then ✌🏽
isnt the gto technically a gt car? thats why it seems so "slow" because it has good power but its very comfortable at the same time
Gto 3600 lbs that’s only 400 more than a c5 of the same era
GTOs are really not that fat if you're talking about fat go look at a charger a challenger or a Camaro.
I agree Trey ! Here's some good runs GTO guys if ya haven't seen it yet..
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Why do you feel like you need to defend the gto? Who gives s duck what anyone thinks. Someone says something, tell them let’s line em up. If it people on here, more than likely they don’t even have a fast car. They just running their mouth. Went to the track Sunday. I made four passes. Every car I lined up with, I beat. My gto only runs 11.20 @125
Ls3 init its 106 pounds lighter
GTO’s are not slow! Who says that? Oh yeah, people who don’t have a car faster than yours! 🤗 I have a Foxbody Mustang..... call them slow if u want to, stop light to stop light she’s a nasty lil devil!
By this video, I guess you're talking about the "Holden" GTO, and not the "Pontiac" GTO. The Aussie car has an LS motor which, (if you're into computers) has unlimited potential to scream. I think the only people considering them slow are on Street Outlaws, and Fast and Furious, and don't reside in the real world.
3700 lbs ain't even heavy lmao porsche 911 turbo weighs the same.
Slow...yup
any car that can do 165 isnt slow at all lmao
you all drive slow 60mph!!!!!!!!!!!!