I tell all of my creative friends about you, Matthias. They're mostly musicians from the Philadelphia area. Jazz players are often tinkerers, and they all find you as compelling and miraculous as I do! You're truly one of the great inspirations in my life. Cheers!
I have purchased the plans and built the jointer (with some minor modifications to fit my 13” cutter head and a 1HP induction motor) about 2 years ago now. I am still impressed how well it works every time I use it. If you ever design a Drum sander I would be the first in line to purchase the plans. PS My wife thinks I am the original designer. I can’t design anything good for you to build but if you ever messed something around the house feel free to blame it on me as a sort of pay back for making me look good in front of the wife 😜
I feel like I will probably never get to the stage where I would make one. On that note and what you spoke about project videos with Steve, I think this is so much more context than a plain regular project video. There is a story and reviewing a previous project also means there is so much more learning through the perspective.
Matthias - you are a legend. I've enjoyed all your videos over the years. I can't believe it's been 10 years since you built this! Keep up the great videos!
Wow! 10 years , thank you for being inspiration, I have not built anything near as complex, however i´ve been able to build a decent amount of things around the house thanks to youtubers like you .
I have always loved the way that when he reaches the end of what he has to say, Matthias just stops. No closing remarks, exhortations to 'like' or subscribe - the video just ends. But he has mellowed over the years.
"dust deflection thingy" I love checking out your videos. It's wonderful to hear how a real engineer refers to things. I love to learn the technical terms for everything..
Oh I been waiting for this!!! my delta 8" cast iron, I modded it made a hard maple back fence that extended it out another foot or so tro make it safe, then made that fence about 4" taller. So I started to check the flatness, so I could make the table longer, by a foot or so on each side. ya I stopped lol, I was ready to get the dycam out, a hand scrapers, and flatten it. This is the exact same as well on all three craftsman table saws. I did goto partial school for machining, so my brain thinks like that with wood working sometimes. I always try to remember it does not have to be flawless if i'm the only one looking at it haha.
Unreal. The 1:00 calculations, 1 millimeter here, 0.5mm there, requiring 1/3rd of a turn on the nuts? The level of expertise on display here just floors me
I had a flash of inspiration watching this video that never occurred to me before about these DIY jointer designs. When you said that you couldn't have a rabbeting ledge because the head pulley is on the wrong side I realized that, as a lefty I could build your design mirrored for left hand use, and then the pulley would be on the "rear" of the machine, behind the fence instead of on the front apron where you were forced to put it. Of course this depends on finding a cheap lunchbox thickness planer with the pulley on the same end of the head as the one you used. I've never seen a left-handed jointer so I never thought of making one. Having one would make jointing a lot easier than using one built for right-handers.
I thought about making a lefty jointer, but decided it was too dangerous to get used to going the other way. what if I did that on someone else’s jointer, or someone else tried using it. but I could just take the fence off and hang off the back. catch is, the bearing block on the other side gets in the way. I could have made that smaller though.
After tearing my thumb off with my jointer a couple of years ago, it sends chills up and down my spine when I see you put stock through that thing without the guard on. Jamie Perkins on the Perkins Builder Brothers channel did the same thing to his whole hand last year, and has to have a prosthetic now. Hands down (pun intended), the jointer is the most feared tool in my shop.
@@jandrewmore With a table saw injury it's usually just a straight laceration, and is easy to stitch up. A jointer just makes hamburger meat out of whatever you put into it. My orthopedic surgeon said it was one of the hardest surgeries to do because he had to get really creative to stitch up what was left of my thumb.
Back at the turn of the century I sold my computer program and then went to the hardware store in the big city (Phoenix). The 1st thing I got was my RIDGID planer just like the one you've built. Takes a couple grown guys to lift it. You certainly learned the physics of this very useful tool.
I remember watching you build it and your old shop!!. I've always dreamed about making one, but I don't have either the need nor the ability to make one haha. What I also remember and have been able to make is wooden gears!!
That's crazy. There was a recommended video at the end of this one for an earlier video about the very same jointer, 10 years ago. I remember watching that other one at that time and finding it interesting.. Time flies
A small rubber strip would also help on that deflection board for the saw dust I think, but you worked it out :) great video as susal, always an pleasure to watch your videos :)
Excellent review and revisit of the design! Congratulations- this machine held up, worked very well, and with only minor annoyance level issues... A supreme success all around!
This was really interesting to see, especially the ones who haven't seen you build this tool. You should do "update videos" on other tools you have built a while ago and see how they've held up and maybe see what type of little tweaks you could make to them.
Not crazy 10 years you’ve been using it and y had that many problems minor stuff you couldn’t buy one at the store and get 10 years out of it without no problems you’re amazing dude I have loved watching you build for a long time keep building
Probably the best homemade power tool ever, even exceeding your amazing band saws, and panto router, if only I had access to Birch plywood (or similar).
Induction motor is a good choice, but the air noise caused by the gap between the cutter head and the infeed table is also very loud. This is a great machine! I made one four years ago and have been using it ever since.
Haha!!! I love your advice to not check cast iron jointers. So true. They are a pain to get just right. Nearly impossible to get my fence square. Luckily there are tricks to overcome that during glue ups. An amazing tool. If i had the confidence to build something ths complicated, I might give it a go.
I used to work in a machine shop running surface grinders a lot. Guys would come in with jointer tables all the time asking us to get it dead flat. One guy even brought it back saying not flat enough. It's like an obsession.
And then within a couple days after being built, it rains, and then there is a week long hot and sunny time and anything built with that machine shop precision will deflect by more than the original deflection of the tool.
When moving several years ago I picked up the VCR and it made a metal on metal chinging sound. I took it apart to find several dollars in change that my kids were "feeding" it. Lol. It wasn't broken but I was amazed howich change it could hold. It was all quarters cause I had a bowl of quarters in my room for the vacuum at the car wash. Now the vacuums are free.
Great history, I always loved this jointer. It will be awesome when you add that quiet motor. Will be nice and quiet between passes. I dream of having a thickness planer that is quiet between passes. The most inexpensive route for a quiet thickness planer is a used Shopsmith 12" (which has some interesting features like serrated in-feed roller (on later versions), feed speed control, and a separately available blade sharpening jig using a conical sanding disk).
My wife and I are planning to live with my parents for a year to save up to buy a house. I have all my woodworking tools in storage, but hopefully after a year we'll be able to buy a house and I'll have space to build some Matthias Wandel tools. That's always been my dream.
I've been working on building mine, following the designs! I've torn down an old planer and built most of the base! I'm still trying to figure out a good way to do the baltic birch stuff. It's over $150 a sheet right now.
I think the way chips got in there is if a chip gets thrown, bounces off the guard, then collides with another chip to throw it upwards towards the slot.
When I built a stand for my bandsaw, I only put casters on two of the legs, the other two I left solid. That way if I'm going to move it I only have to pick up a little bit on one end and I can move it around freely. And when I set it down, it stays there.
Unsolicited idea: For the guard spring assembly, replace the bolt and nut with left-handed threaded versions so the spring force makes it tighten instead of loosen.
@@matthiaswandel I mean, you can buy one and have it at your door next day from McMaster Carr if you live in the US. and there is probably a similar supplier near you if you arent in the US.
I'm a longtime fan, but it would be interesting for you to work in a commercial shop with the big cast iron machines that get used 12 hours a day year round. We have different issues to deal with. I can tell you that heavier is better. Cheers
I bought a 10 inch benchtop jointer and I was thinking about converting it using your plans because the bed mounting hardware on the 10 inch is the same as the 6 inch model and I get a lot of flex at the sides of the beds.
Running a board over a jointer, including high end accurate machines, often will leave the edge not straight. To get the edge straight one starts in the middle and works out. This may be part of the reason why European machines use those gap guards, and not the swinging guards, you can actually plane an edge with those, not just run a board through when is may retain the banana edge, or make it worse. There are safety reasons for those guards also. Super machine, I paid a lot more, it takes up more space and I have 2/3rd of the beam.
Moral of the story: do a deep dive breakdown/clean/adjustment of your tools on a yearly basis. Set a day/weekend/series of days to do it. The loss of time will be well traded for a set of power tools that both work well AND work square/level/aligned.
super dumb question, but i genuinely think this is the best place for it: i'm slowly stocking up my own home shop, and want to know if I should get a band saw or a table saw first. I have a circular saw and a level I can use as a straightedge, so I'm not too worried about cutting long, thin materials like plywood, but don't have a good way of cutting anything thicker than 2 inches(5cm)
Personally, I got a bandsaw before the table saw. But that's a matter of what I came across. Bandsaws are just super handy when you have to make a little cut here and there.
I got a table saw first since it was cheaper and more appropriate for what I was wanting to do at the time. When I needed a bandsaw and didn't have the money for one, I built a simple machine with an upside-down jigsaw and a long blade. It's far from a complete bandsaw replacement, but it worked well enough for what I needed it for (cutting odd shapes). I picked up the jigsaw from a pawn shop for $12 (it's some no-name brand) and spent maybe $15 in materials - mostly a 2x4, a long blade that was likely meant for a Sawzall but had the same profile the jigsaw used, and a small piece of cabinet-grade plywood for the table. The hardest part was the upper blade guide, and that wasn't too difficult (I used some bearings I had laying around). You can find videos on UA-cam of people building similar things.
“Don’t check cast iron tables”. 👍 Unless you are prepared to do a lot of frustrating tweaking, shimming- and identification of sweet spots. Thanks for the report!
Mathias been watching for awhile, I love your builds. I have a question. I have a cheap Bauer planer I bought from a guy for $20. When I got into it found the windings were beat up on the armature and stator coil… I’ve thought about rewinding it but thought you might know what type of tools I could pull a replacement or similar motor from?Seeing your Delta motor in your jointer made me think of it.
I have 7 years on the one that I built from your plans. It is still working great despite the abuse I have handed it.
What the heck, 10 years?! I remember watching you built this last week!
Me as well, 10 years... mind blown! See you in the next 20 years retouch video he for sure will make :)
Exactly my thoughts! 10 Years?? Incredible! And it still holds up perfectly!
I’ve been holding this thought for quite a while now haha
I tell all of my creative friends about you, Matthias. They're mostly musicians from the Philadelphia area. Jazz players are often tinkerers, and they all find you as compelling and miraculous as I do! You're truly one of the great inspirations in my life. Cheers!
I have purchased the plans and built the jointer (with some minor modifications to fit my 13” cutter head and a 1HP induction motor) about 2 years ago now. I am still impressed how well it works every time I use it. If you ever design a Drum sander I would be the first in line to purchase the plans. PS My wife thinks I am the original designer. I can’t design anything good for you to build but if you ever messed something around the house feel free to blame it on me as a sort of pay back for making me look good in front of the wife 😜
Nice to see how few issues have arisen in a homemade tool!
One of the first videos I remember when I found you so many years ago!
I feel like I will probably never get to the stage where I would make one. On that note and what you spoke about project videos with Steve, I think this is so much more context than a plain regular project video. There is a story and reviewing a previous project also means there is so much more learning through the perspective.
You're one hell of an engineer, I'll give you that!
I built mine using your plans about 5yrs ago. Live that thing. Still works great!
Having watched a lot of your earlier build videos when they aired, this video was a nostalgic treat.
Matthias - you are a legend. I've enjoyed all your videos over the years. I can't believe it's been 10 years since you built this! Keep up the great videos!
Thanks Matthias, perfect timing on the video, I just recently bought the plans for this and started on it this past weekend.
Wow! 10 years , thank you for being inspiration, I have not built anything near as complex, however i´ve been able to build a decent amount of things around the house thanks to youtubers like you .
It's been 10 years already?! I'm getting old. Well done man!
After 10 years I am surprised there is not more dust inside. Impressive build. Thank you for sharing.
I have always loved the way that when he reaches the end of what he has to say, Matthias just stops. No closing remarks, exhortations to 'like' or subscribe - the video just ends. But he has mellowed over the years.
Matthias standing on his creations is such a wordworker's flex. Brings a smile to my face.
"dust deflection thingy" I love checking out your videos. It's wonderful to hear how a real engineer refers to things. I love to learn the technical terms for everything..
Lovely video as always. The best thing about your work is how enthusiastic you are to share it with everyone. Thanks for another great video.
Oh I been waiting for this!!! my delta 8" cast iron, I modded it made a hard maple back fence that extended it out another foot or so tro make it safe, then made that fence about 4" taller. So I started to check the flatness, so I could make the table longer, by a foot or so on each side. ya I stopped lol, I was ready to get the dycam out, a hand scrapers, and flatten it. This is the exact same as well on all three craftsman table saws. I did goto partial school for machining, so my brain thinks like that with wood working sometimes. I always try to remember it does not have to be flawless if i'm the only one looking at it haha.
This is good to see. I think I've been watching your videos since back then, indeed.
Amazing jointer! This video proved, that this jointer plans is great! 👍
Thanks for sharing update after 10 years!
Unreal. The 1:00 calculations, 1 millimeter here, 0.5mm there, requiring 1/3rd of a turn on the nuts?
The level of expertise on display here just floors me
This guys a legend. I’ve watched him for so long and he’s so underrated
Nice work Matthias! Thanks for sharing the update with us!💖👍😎JP
That was the first video that I saw from you - I remember being very impressed by the usage of garbage wood for a high-precision - project!
I had a flash of inspiration watching this video that never occurred to me before about these DIY jointer designs. When you said that you couldn't have a rabbeting ledge because the head pulley is on the wrong side I realized that, as a lefty I could build your design mirrored for left hand use, and then the pulley would be on the "rear" of the machine, behind the fence instead of on the front apron where you were forced to put it. Of course this depends on finding a cheap lunchbox thickness planer with the pulley on the same end of the head as the one you used.
I've never seen a left-handed jointer so I never thought of making one. Having one would make jointing a lot easier than using one built for right-handers.
I thought about making a lefty jointer, but decided it was too dangerous to get used to going the other way. what if I did that on someone else’s jointer, or someone else tried using it. but I could just take the fence off and hang off the back. catch is, the bearing block on the other side gets in the way. I could have made that smaller though.
I didn't know a green machine was going to make me feel old today! This was great, and a good way to tease an upcoming motor-change video.
The ease of repair shows how fantastic the design was. Rob
After tearing my thumb off with my jointer a couple of years ago, it sends chills up and down my spine when I see you put stock through that thing without the guard on.
Jamie Perkins on the Perkins Builder Brothers channel did the same thing to his whole hand last year, and has to have a prosthetic now.
Hands down (pun intended), the jointer is the most feared tool in my shop.
Agreed, with routers coming in second. Table saw injuries might be more common, but they're less damaging.
@@jandrewmore With a table saw injury it's usually just a straight laceration, and is easy to stitch up. A jointer just makes hamburger meat out of whatever you put into it. My orthopedic surgeon said it was one of the hardest surgeries to do because he had to get really creative to stitch up what was left of my thumb.
@@kevinniemeyer5938 I think we're agreeing here.
On this one, the gap is so small, you'd have to grind the thumb off slowly, cause it wouldn't fit in.
@@matthiaswandel I don't think volunteers will be queuing up to demonstrate that.
Back at the turn of the century I sold my computer program and then went to the hardware store in the big city (Phoenix). The 1st thing I got was my RIDGID planer just like the one you've built. Takes a couple grown guys to lift it. You certainly learned the physics of this very useful tool.
This entire video is fascinating. I never really think to much about how my tools work, so it is so fun to see exactly how everything works here.
I remember watching you build it and your old shop!!. I've always dreamed about making one, but I don't have either the need nor the ability to make one haha. What I also remember and have been able to make is wooden gears!!
That's crazy. There was a recommended video at the end of this one for an earlier video about the very same jointer, 10 years ago. I remember watching that other one at that time and finding it interesting.. Time flies
Gees its been a long time since i work again on hardwood and see your video
Beautiful tool, Matthias! Really well built! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
A small rubber strip would also help on that deflection board for the saw dust I think, but you worked it out :) great video as susal, always an pleasure to watch your videos :)
Yep, I was going to suggest the same but, as usual, Matthias comes out with a creative and effective solution 🙂
Rubber would work but would it survive the next ten years? The wood will wear over the years but probobly last longer than a rubber lip.
Excellent review and revisit of the design! Congratulations- this machine held up, worked very well, and with only minor annoyance level issues... A supreme success all around!
This was really interesting to see, especially the ones who haven't seen you build this tool. You should do "update videos" on other tools you have built a while ago and see how they've held up and maybe see what type of little tweaks you could make to them.
Once again another great video from the Master
Not crazy 10 years you’ve been using it and y had that many problems minor stuff you couldn’t buy one at the store and get 10 years out of it without no problems you’re amazing dude I have loved watching you build for a long time keep building
it shocked me te most that i'm wachting your videos for more then ten year
Probably the best homemade power tool ever, even exceeding your amazing band saws, and panto router, if only I had access to Birch plywood (or similar).
Induction motor is a good choice, but the air noise caused by the gap between the cutter head and the infeed table is also very loud. This is a great machine! I made one four years ago and have been using it ever since.
True, but the OG delta motor is loud as.
Held up fantastic for a decade
This was a lot of fun to watch. Thanks for sharing.
I love these reviews of how your tools are doing!!!
Love these updates, glad you're finding more to talk about than you thought. Maybe there will be more? The sticks from the kids made me laugh!
I always enjoy your videos.
Great video love seeing the updated even tho I wasn't around for the initial build.
Very cool. Thank you for the update. Bought a few things from your website but not that one yet
Haha!!! I love your advice to not check cast iron jointers. So true. They are a pain to get just right. Nearly impossible to get my fence square. Luckily there are tricks to overcome that during glue ups. An amazing tool. If i had the confidence to build something ths complicated, I might give it a go.
Wow. Amazing attention to detail!
I used to work in a machine shop running surface grinders a lot. Guys would come in with jointer tables all the time asking us to get it dead flat. One guy even brought it back saying not flat enough. It's like an obsession.
And then within a couple days after being built, it rains, and then there is a week long hot and sunny time and anything built with that machine shop precision will deflect by more than the original deflection of the tool.
Can't wait to build my own, thanks for the update on yours!
When moving several years ago I picked up the VCR and it made a metal on metal chinging sound. I took it apart to find several dollars in change that my kids were "feeding" it. Lol. It wasn't broken but I was amazed howich change it could hold. It was all quarters cause I had a bowl of quarters in my room for the vacuum at the car wash. Now the vacuums are free.
That's absolutely incredible how accurate it has remained with only a few chips of sawdust to clean out.
Wild I remember watching the build videos when they first came out
Great history, I always loved this jointer. It will be awesome when you add that quiet motor. Will be nice and quiet between passes. I dream of having a thickness planer that is quiet between passes. The most inexpensive route for a quiet thickness planer is a used Shopsmith 12" (which has some interesting features like serrated in-feed roller (on later versions), feed speed control, and a separately available blade sharpening jig using a conical sanding disk).
So interesting! Can’t wait to see the motor swap!
That is amazing to me! Ten Years?! Ive seen many commercial machines that required more maintenance than this after a week! Fantastic.
The knife might need a bit of maintenance. Like dragging a file along its edge to sharpen it occasionally .
Het gemak van de reparatie laat zien, hoe fantastisch het ontwerp was. Rob
the goat of homeade!
My wife and I are planning to live with my parents for a year to save up to buy a house. I have all my woodworking tools in storage, but hopefully after a year we'll be able to buy a house and I'll have space to build some Matthias Wandel tools. That's always been my dream.
Matthias, thanks for the cast iron jointer. Small in comparison to your current self made version but suits my needs well.
I'm SHOCKED that those plywood bearing blocks are still intact. I had a friend machine some steel bearing blocks for the build i did from your plans.
Request for more "10 years later" videos please 🙂
It's lasted a lot longer than some brands would buddy. Nice one
Wow, i watched the original video 10 years ago! Wild
wow, that is awesome. I would love to build one!
Great video.
Very Informative, thanks! I'd love to see an update on all of your bandsaws as well :)
I've been working on building mine, following the designs! I've torn down an old planer and built most of the base! I'm still trying to figure out a good way to do the baltic birch stuff. It's over $150 a sheet right now.
The small amount of ten years worth of dust in the parallelogram box is pretty incredible.
I think the way chips got in there is if a chip gets thrown, bounces off the guard, then collides with another chip to throw it upwards towards the slot.
I have not built one yet but when I upgrade my planer I'll have a spare to build a bigger jointer. Right now I have a 4 inch jointer
"... and most of those people who made their own jointers are still alive!" :) Keep up the good work Matthias.
well, yes, not THAT many people die in a ten year span.
Nice quick fixes, that was easy! I guess that also says something about how well it works (not implying I could build something like that)
When I built a stand for my bandsaw, I only put casters on two of the legs, the other two I left solid. That way if I'm going to move it I only have to pick up a little bit on one end and I can move it around freely. And when I set it down, it stays there.
To think it's been a decade. Man, time flies away like nothing.
Unsolicited idea: For the guard spring assembly, replace the bolt and nut with left-handed threaded versions so the spring force makes it tighten instead of loosen.
Much easier to just tighten the nut good than searching high and low for an odd custom bolt.
@@matthiaswandel I mean, you can buy one and have it at your door next day from McMaster Carr if you live in the US. and there is probably a similar supplier near you if you arent in the US.
@@kathrynroberts2246 the bolt is the easy part, its the T nut in the wood piece that is hard to find.
@@kathrynroberts2246 McMaster ships to Canada. But min $12 shipping means Matthias is tightening that bolt every ten years
@@mattym8 He could also just use red loctite.
Great video !
I'm a longtime fan, but it would be interesting for you to work in a commercial shop with the big cast iron machines that get used 12 hours a day year round. We have different issues to deal with. I can tell you that heavier is better. Cheers
So awesome.
so many people don't know how to use a jointer, this one included, any wood machinist would have his head in his hands.
May I suggest a couple of holes into the cavities with secondary suction to help reduce the accumulation of dust on the mechanisms..?
The plans only cost $16?? I was expecting so much more, great machine and great cost here. Love it!
Great video👍
I bought a 10 inch benchtop jointer and I was thinking about converting it using your plans because the bed mounting hardware on the 10 inch is the same as the 6 inch model and I get a lot of flex at the sides of the beds.
Running a board over a jointer, including high end accurate machines, often will leave the edge not straight. To get the edge straight one starts in the middle and works out. This may be part of the reason why European machines use those gap guards, and not the swinging guards, you can actually plane an edge with those, not just run a board through when is may retain the banana edge, or make it worse. There are safety reasons for those guards also.
Super machine, I paid a lot more, it takes up more space and I have 2/3rd of the beam.
Very impressive!
I would watch you do another of these with each of your machines
Moral of the story: do a deep dive breakdown/clean/adjustment of your tools on a yearly basis. Set a day/weekend/series of days to do it. The loss of time will be well traded for a set of power tools that both work well AND work square/level/aligned.
super dumb question, but i genuinely think this is the best place for it: i'm slowly stocking up my own home shop, and want to know if I should get a band saw or a table saw first. I have a circular saw and a level I can use as a straightedge, so I'm not too worried about cutting long, thin materials like plywood, but don't have a good way of cutting anything thicker than 2 inches(5cm)
Personally, I got a bandsaw before the table saw. But that's a matter of what I came across. Bandsaws are just super handy when you have to make a little cut here and there.
I got a table saw first since it was cheaper and more appropriate for what I was wanting to do at the time. When I needed a bandsaw and didn't have the money for one, I built a simple machine with an upside-down jigsaw and a long blade. It's far from a complete bandsaw replacement, but it worked well enough for what I needed it for (cutting odd shapes).
I picked up the jigsaw from a pawn shop for $12 (it's some no-name brand) and spent maybe $15 in materials - mostly a 2x4, a long blade that was likely meant for a Sawzall but had the same profile the jigsaw used, and a small piece of cabinet-grade plywood for the table. The hardest part was the upper blade guide, and that wasn't too difficult (I used some bearings I had laying around).
You can find videos on UA-cam of people building similar things.
You are fantastic. 👍👏
“Don’t check cast iron tables”. 👍 Unless you are prepared to do a lot of frustrating tweaking, shimming- and identification of sweet spots. Thanks for the report!
Well, that was like taking an interesting trip to visit an old friend. :)
Mathias been watching for awhile, I love your builds. I have a question. I have a cheap Bauer planer I bought from a guy for $20. When I got into it found the windings were beat up on the armature and stator coil… I’ve thought about rewinding it but thought you might know what type of tools I could pull a replacement or similar motor from?Seeing your Delta motor in your jointer made me think of it.
Great video, I was looking forward to it. You said you would have made the tables longer if you did it again. How much longer?
10 to 15 Cm each end.
You should add a proper belt tensioner to reduce friction on the belt that lowers the power output your cutter receives
"Don't check flatness of a castiron jointer" Wise words indeed.