Stock FRS vs Supercharged BRZ
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- The GT86 platform is everywhere these days, but we still remember when it was brand new, and the excitement it brought to the tuner scene. In this entry of Gears and Gasoline, we compare a stock example of the dearly departed Scion FRS with a supercharged version of its sister car, the Subaru BRZ. One is a devoted show car with power and looks aplenty, the other a humble little sports car with a heart of gold, and they both make a strong case for the GT86 platform.
Special thanks to Dan and Shane for providing their cars for us to film. Both were a total blast to drive, and this video wouldn’t have happened without you guys.
Also a huge shoutout to our buddy Terrill, who spent his whole day helping us shoot. You're the man, dude.
Editor’s Note: All the passing shots were filmed on a sparsely populated backroad with good sight-lines and at low speeds. We don’t condone unsafe driving. Be safe.
Also, we erroneously referred to the engine in the FRS as the FA20. It is the FA20, but when it's in a Toyota car, it's the 4U-GSE.
Music:
Too Soon? by M!ngo
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Persian by Goldy
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Timezones by Niteboi
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Stay! by M!ngo
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I think some people forget the true nature of the gt86. It's like a blank piece of paper and the owner can create their masterpiece and express their vision through this car. So many directions and limitless possibilities.
Couldn't agree more!
Elijah Vang Exactly extremely well said! And there are so many people out there saying ohhh the 86 tricked us into thinking It was fast ohhh 0-60 was soooo slow and some very stupid complaints of that nature.
Elijah Vang I almost cried at this beautiful comment
Elijah Vang have you seen the one with the Ferrari V8?
Perfect explanation
I love my mostly stock BRZ, but I understand why some people want more power from it. I wish they offered both. But I do enjoy hanging with the Porsches and Corvettes in the turns before they blow me away on the straights. 😎
Justin Hughes Well Brz/Frs are known for being slow so there are people who want more power from it
@@forevergeo3609 yeah, but i guess the handling makes up for the horsepower
Orange Username in a track yes, in a straight line No
It's a nice fkin car I don't race. I've always liked an rsx but it's so old so I'll get a frs. 86..brz. It just looks nice and drives nice. Speed honestly is least of my concern.
We need someone to squeeze a v8 in this car. Hop to it. Go go go!!!
Push the fire wall back a bit and get voodoo motor in there. 😂
As one of our viewers pointed out, we totally misspoke when we called Dan's supercharger centrifugal- it's a twin-screw. We're dummies and +XxMammalxX is smart.
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well technically it is centripetal anyways .... oh well
Was just about to comment... Thank you for owning up to your mistake and not trying to play it off like so many youtubers do. You guys rock!
Is there a difference between Twin-screw and Twin-Scroll?
Gears and Gasoline keep up the good work guys love your videos 🤘🏼🙏🏼
The boosted BRZ is perfection. Looks, sound, performance.
Yea, it's not too ricey, just perfect.
Kevin Sosa Ricey? What’s that gotta do with anything?
@@AeroPrixma if it's ricey then it's not perfect
@@joshg.9390 Yeah but the boosted BRZ wasn't riced whatsoever.
@@AeroPrixma those stickers were pretty ricey
The BRZ: A car meant not for speed, but for modding and having fun in.
I love when channels recognize this
that's a twin screw supercharger
+XxMammalxX You're gosh darn right it is. We misspoke, good catch!
I was gonna say.. lol! Sweet video fellas!
Gears and Gasoline H E double hockey sticks
XxMammalxX no that's a spoiled kid
was gonna say. lol. I hear blower whine.
Force induction or not, it doesn't matter to me, I only use mine to deliver tofu. Great video.
Weebs
I love how this has “86” likes
@@kennellwashington1026 Oh damn
Kennell Washington had
The very first car I that I bought at age 20 was a '96 NA Mazda MX-5 (Miata) with the 133bhp 1.8L engine. Stock as a rock, except for some good Pirelli tyres.
It gave me four years of driving everywhere right on the speed limit, regardless of road conditions or weather. Four years of cheeky late-night slow speed oversteer around the backstreets. Four years of top-down summer cruising with my GF in the passenger seat, loving life. I never felt like I was at serious risk of breaking the car or hurting myself/somebody else by overcooking it, had a great time, and I never got a single speeding fine. A mildly worked-over BRZ seems like a perfect spiritual successor to my beloved Mazda. You don't need heaps of power to put a huge grin on your face.
You see, I thought the same thing before I sold my 2001 Miata for a 2018 BRZ. I never felt like I was missing anything with my Miata. Every moment behind the wheel was a blast. The BRZ just doesn't have that same magic. Mazda found an unmatchable formula. No one can even put it into words, Miatas are just fun lol. So with that in mind, people often feel like something is missing with the BRZ and the first glaring hole is in the power. Just my feeling after making that switch.
@@yo_its_devo I would love to see more 86 owners push for weight reduction first before adding power - lightweight wheels, battery and seats, pull the rear seats that no one sits in, etc.
Yes it would make them less comfortable but I think that's part of the Miata magic - you're not isolated from road noise or wind noise and it's harder to go from point a to point b without thinking about it. Plus weight reduction would add to the fun factor without making the speeding tickets more expensive.
@@Talynen check out revolutions 86 weighs only 992kg with stock motor and it's fucking fast!
2 years late to this comment. But I'm 17 now and this car is among some of my dream cars. I also like the mitsubishi eclipse and ford gt, although I'll probably never own a ford gt
Or the new Miata
Awesome video guys just one thing to note, the reason Subaru doesn't want to add forced induction to the BRZ is because it will take a lot of sales away from the WRX which is one of their flagship cars. Thanks!
+Jakeyourface That's a good point! It'd be fun though
Yeah no doubt it would be my 2004 STi is the perfect car im just wishing it was RWD and im sure if there were a BRZ STi it would be the perfect car!
Jakeyourface take out the front driveshafts and bam. rwd 😂😂😂
Lajcsi Vagyok yeah of course I'm sure they'll just come right off who cares about the front diff anyway lol 😂😂
#HaggardAF. But for real tho i'm sure on subie forums some people managed to convert it to rwd.
Great work on this one, guys! Enjoyed it very much... granted, we have an FRS in the garage as well.
+EverydayDriver Thanks guys! It's a killer platform for sure.
Nissan needs to bring back the 240sx to compete with these especially if they gave us in USA a stock turbo'd version (We never got sr20 engines only the na KA).
Affordable rwd manual cars that you can mod until your hearts content that aren't all electronic bs and handle good with just enough power to be fun is a great platform to build from.
Hopefully Nissan brings back the 240sx one day, that would be awesome.
and bring back a real skyline. Not the v6 infinitys.
Saturday Winter keep on dreaming, lol
Jackson Fortune ain't the r35 technically the skyline now
Saturday Winter The newer Gt86/Brz have a lot of electronics comparing to the original AE86
Will it be possible to get an affordable rwd car, with a decent engine, not dependent on a computer these days? Every time I visit a show room the engines are shrinking in size while in-car electronics are getting out of hand.
You guys make UA-cam look so effortless, though it's clear a TON of effort goes into your videos. Every new video you two put out seems to best your last one.
+UndergroundTrev Thanks bro. It means a lot to hear that.
Good job guys, you change how I view the stock 86.
Plus , I really glad I found this channel much early
great work as always guys, I like the dual review/ compare tests, kind of like top gear, each presenter gets their own car! awesome work Bens -Adam
You guys made me fall in love with the FR-S. I bought one 3 months after i watched this video. In about a month i start putting mods on it. Thank you for this beautiful video, well done.
You guys make some of the best automotive content on UA-cam.
+MylesHSG
Anyone noticed his Engineering Explained shirt? :D
yeh i did
yes was very tight :)
Will Andersen I bet yours is tighter.
Excellent point at the end about how forced induction isn't completely necessary. Sometimes upgrading suspension and tires makes a car feel completely different.
Been stuck between this and the miata mx5 but now I definitely know the brz is the choice
great review/comparison, wish it was longer!
i have a wrx and brz. both of great cars
so which one would you choose if you were to have just one and why? im seriously thinking of brz, wrx is kind of out of my budget.
That BRZ is fucking goals!!!
WRXer lots of money too lol
:P
WRXer sick bugeye
Crazy Hobo Thanks man!
other than that i'd personally want the rally blue pearl and an actual coil over set up, i agree it looks pretty close to my ideal set up too.
These cars are really beautiful. I love their style.
Problem is everyone want to race you when you’re in a brz cause they know they’ll beat you. Just gets kinda opd
Literally saw a video where a frs got dusted by a PRIUS
@@arrezz2078 that wasnt a normal prius :)
Yeah. I dusted a highly visually modified frs that was slammed, had a rocket bunny kit and a massive gt wing. In my manual 230 hp mercedes c class. Lol.
theprivyninja I dusted a highly modified brz on my mountain bike
Demesvar Clerge no you didn’t. Lol a turbo brz can actually be fast.
I love my 86, I've had it for two years now going on three soon enough but I have never really felt the need for the car to have more power, that playful spirit is something I feel is often lost in modern cars which makes it such a refreshing car to drive. I will say though better suspension and tire wouldn't hurt but the best place to put all that extra money is track time.
That hyper blue BRZ is just sex same exterior mods i would do except maybe a carbon duck bill spoiler instead to accent the black and blue theme more. But i love the FRS/BRZ if they had just a little bit more power like 250+ it would be even better. Great video guys and keep up the awesome work.
I rarely comment. But this, this was incredibly well made. Like, something made from Top Gear (Grand Tour). Very well done. I appreciated this alot.
Finally, someone that actually has decent background music that flows good with the video.
you kidding....right?
Excellent job you guys. Stupendous cinematography as always.
This was a great video. You guys should do more stock and modified videos. I really enjoy it.
I love my 86. It feels slow, but I have never had more fun.
loved it, wish I could have been there!
It was freezing cold that day. lol
waaaaay too cold!
Amazing video as always, I love the side to side comparison. A lot of people hate on cars that don't have a lot of power but when it comes to cars like these they miss the whole point. The fun you can in a car when you can safely drive it to its limits on the road is unmatched.
That License plate is dope
:D
Awe inspiring video guys it really shows the strengths of this car as a daily and as a platform.
Hell- I own an FR-S with the only mods being brakes and intake, and its enough to run with GT3RS's on the mountains where I live. Allll the twisties.
Probably one of the most natural yet cool transitions between the two cars
For the fact that I can find these cars on average costing 9-11k gives me hope that I can afford one in the future
all of those things you described about the FRS are all of the things that i loved about my 83 celica GTS. it wasnt overly powerful, but it was really fun to drive. If i could find another decent 83ish celica I would be all over it.
Honestly guys, how do you still have just 41k subscribers? You're such a good channel and your filming and editing skills are out of this world and easily 10 times better than other channels. Also your vid's are really entertaining and nice to watch. Hoping you'll get more succesful in some time, but until then: keep it up and coming guys. You are really good ;)
brilliant review guys. there are hundreds of review but by far this has been superbly enjoyable. brilliant cinematic.
I saw it, you crossed the double yellow that'll be a ticket ;D
ohi officer.
You're videos a freaking amazing. Keep up the great work guys. Can't wait to see where this channel goes. 👍👏
As a BRZ owner who bought mine stock, you really don't need forced induction to get some power out of the FA20 motor. With a full exhaust, catless UEL headers, intake, and a tune it really throws you back in your seat screaming all the way up to redline.
Share vids bro sounds sick
no need for an intake, youre probably better off just dropping in a high performance filter by k&n. The stock intake for BRZ work perfectly.
Cristian Briseno does it make the same exhale sound
I have a brz with all those mods except it still has cats on an e85 tune and its still slow
you guys are too good at making these videos ! once again blown away with the quality of your filming and editing. I always feel like i'm watching a movie with your videos not a you tube channel.
you guys are so underrated....
loved the transition from the FRS to the BRZ :) as always, audiovisuals on point and great content, keep it comin'!
why you walking so funny man!
mrjoloda Right? I was walking like an idiot and I have no idea why. I walk normal, I swear.
Its because you were on camera.
Gears and Gasoline Its the Birdemic movie thing, can't walk on camera or say the words "solarpals" (solar panels)
Gears and Gasoline I know how you feel. I also feel a little uncomfortable when filmed.
I think you tried to walk normally because of the camera but made it just look weirder, happens to me a lot when someone is behind me lol
Ridiculously good production quality. Keep it up guys! =)
For the love of god subaru make a STI version of these already!!!
wow!u 2 guys never fail 2 keep me glued 2 my screen!.... keep up the good work...
"we wish [...] Make a TRD or STI version of these cars"
And then Subaru made the tS with...... more aero!
Don't forget the red stripes 😅
The TRD’s coming now
Well done guys! A very well made and unbiased video! Very rare these days.
The stickers on the BRZ are so tacky.
tru
@86_DAN lol
Eric Vilendrer on any car
JDM BRO
Agreed
I just want to say, besides 2 pretty cool cars being featured. Kudos to the amazing camera work and editing that went into this video. Liked and subscribed 👍
"Comes from a line of various BMW's??" Look at the Z4 with over 300 horsepower and you see that BMW understands the joy in slamming tons of horsepower in a small chassis. It would be more honest to say you cant afford horsepower than to say it is part of some plan of the engineers to deny this horsepower purposely. Trust me, those engineers begged for every single HP they could get from the accountants at Toyota and Subaru.
It would probably be better than a Supra w more hp&tq..
You guys should have much more than 41k subscribers. Keep it up you guys are going to blow up any day now
Realistically, the "old sports car formula" in the FRS/BRZ today gets overtaken by V-6 minivans with kids making taunting faces at you. More power IS necessary.
ravenstylea2 in a straighaway yes. In mountainous/canyon roads the minivan will rollover and explode. These little cars are for those kinds of roads. For a drag race get a v8 or something
the doge Everyone has heard that argument a 1000 times. Never said it had to be a camaro fighter in a straight line. Unfortunately in every day driving, there won't be enough of your said scenario, which gets me back to my first point.
Where are you driving that has minivan drivers willing to speed that hard with kids in the back? It'd be a dream come true if all the minivan drivers over here are that fast, cuz over here they're going the 2nd slowest right after the semi-trucks. You can literally overtake them with a plain RAV4 without even breaking traffic laws in everyday driving (I do it all the time). In everyday driving, you'll almost never encounter drivers willing to push their vehicles at speeds where power or tuning really matters.
We top out faster than v6 chargers mustangs ect, you've obviously never raced on a freeway, I just drove 10 hours to Arizona from California and I beat most cars because top speed, it's not all 0-60 times obviously an American muscle will take you at a stop sign but not in the long run. A v8 even won't in California because belts, the belts in Japanese cars top out higher because kmh only by like 10 mph tho lmao
Never seen a stock minivan do a 0-60 sub 8 secs. And because they are always loaded with sth, bad aero, it's hopeless.
Great Video, The Stock 86 with Simple bolt ons is a great car. We like the addition of a Tune With E85. The power is just right for daily and more spirited driving.
Lol, I got a Toyota 86 ad on this vid.
What a shocker.
That BRZ is beautiful!! Great video guys 👍
That BRZ is clean AF
:)
Great video guys Keep up the great work. Love the videos
Those pants need a couple more inches Ben. Those aren't slacks..
Good video I was waiting the whole time for a race tho
Don't get an FRS. BRZ limited in rally blue the way to go.
The one in the video is hyper blue
Great video as always guys, I like how you present this one it was well thought out and coordinated.
One question, what body kit does the supercharged BRZ have? I'm kind of a Newbie btw... 😂✌
sprintex twin scroll
@@cradilyz he was asking for the body kit not the supercharger
i love the gt86/brz/frs you can literally do ANYTHING to it wich i love
once im able to drive im dev gonna get a brz
surprised there's no comment like what is scion?!? or isn't that a toyota?😂
Joshua Müller
It is. A USDM sport car brand owned by Toyota.
@@АлексейКиселёв-к7н scion no longer exists.
A piece of art, keep going guys!!!
ive owned the frs for 3 months and while its fun turning ive started to realize how slow this car really is. it needs more power :(
Holy shit this has like the perfect scene especially when he pulled up with the brz😂😂😂 it kinda gave like a tokyo drift type theme with the buildings in the background. Loved it man❤️❤️
Did he drift the BRZ at the end?
glad you caught that lol
@86_DAN what kind of front fenders are those?
Lil cheeky slide ;)
Hey nice video! That brz looked great. I think these cars are a ton of fun.
BRZ all day
I like the BRZ/FRS family of vehicles. They are great on the street and fun in the twistys. If the new model has more power we'll see how well it delivers on the same formula that it was built on.
Forced induction is a requirement to have more fun though. Drive your first turbocharged car and you'll never go back to a boring old naturally aspirated appliance again.
archangelpaladin44 now with a V8 or V10 😬
Naturally aspirated is The Ultimate. Forced induction is for wimpy motors.
Never driven a built all motor car?
The FRS/86/BEZ are so easy to modify it's perfect, there's so much support for it everywhere that's it's more than easy to upgrade almost EVERYTHING on the car.
You filmed yourself illegally crossing a double yellow line. Nice video though.
filmed me crossing the line.. :P
Optical illusion
It's legal in Mexico
Luxotica, they're not in Mexico though, so why are you bringing that up?
Seth Winters That comment was from 9 months ago, so why are you bringing it up?
i would not be surprised if you guys got a TV deal. Very high quality content.
BRZ is getting a STI remake in 2018
Edward Razura-Perez very correct
Its 2018 & there's no BRZ STI. It was just a concept unfortunately.
Jovanny Sanchez ts tuned by sti
@@waykool698 I hate to say this, but the "Tuned by STi" version didn't produce any additional horsepower. All that was "tuned" was the aero package, the handling characteristics, and some STi badging. Oh, and some parts come standard that were options on the lower trim level (sachs dampers, etc). Not worth the extra 5-7k IMO.
Irish Identity I added the sti badges and immediately got 50hp
Always killing it with the videos! keep them coming!
Really loved this one guys. Keep it up and keep pushing, youll get there
I have a 2015 sti that's pushing a little under 400 hp. I'm about to buy a brz cause it's a subie and it's a rwd car. I love my sti it's my daily but it's missing the fun factor a rwd has. It's a love hate relationship with how the car is so composed in turns. I need some "oh shit I'm skidding sideways" in my life.
I'm sure someone has probably pointed this out but I'm new and you guys are driving around manassas aren't you!? That's soooo cool I didn't know we had any car UA-camrs here!
Damn these videos are fire! keep them coming.
Awesome video production and commentary!!!
Jesus, the editing is class 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
I have to say, you guys make such amazing videos
I always love this channel very professional looking edits
Brilliant video concept! Loved the comparison as well as car feature on both cars at the same time. Killed two birds with one stone!
Very nice scenery in this video. The fall trees and leaves look beautiful.
Ya'lls production value is incredible
Such great content you guys put out!
this made me rethink about my car, I own an 08 v6 mustang and just like the 86 line it does not make near enough power, 210hp/240tq I understand the want for more power, granted since it is a v6 and a higher displacement motor there is a tiny bit of flexibility to add some more power but not much, yes part of the fun is not having all the power of a built car and being able to push your car and hear the engine and exhaust scream, hate on me or my car doesn't matter, real car enthusiasts respect and appreciate all cars
great video guys. first time watching and really enjoyed. subbed
This is why we give big thanks to companies like vortec for creating superchargers specifically made for the fa20 that can be ran on stock internals and can also have supporting mods and pushed even further, a car like the brz/86 with mid 300hp is a scary power/weight ratio.
These guys deserve 10mil subscribers already
Yeah you got it right on the end I’ve had a stock frs loved it and bought a stock brz after it got totaled I still have fun but definitely want more power
You guys make some really good and clean content