I say it's just so easy to make a "scary movie" Like someone else said, just make a spooky title, add some jump scares, have the actors act scared, and you got a Hollywood scary movie with a $50k budget.
Horror and Comedy are incredibly hard genres to work in because the envelope constantly has to be pushed for them to hold up. 50 years ago our grandparents were puking in the theaters when the chestburster scene happened. They were laughing at Larry Moe and Curly tripping eachother. Before that they werent showering because they heard a reet reet reet sound effect in their mind whenever they closed the shower curtain. The two genres are incredibly dynamic on top of being incredibly subjective.
Not necessarily. Everything is just copy & paste and comes across as halfassed. You can have horror come across effectively without having to do the most. There’s hardly any originality anymore.
@@5methoxy I suppose people have different tastes and opinions to you. What are some movies you deem to be suspenseful and worthy of being called horror?
I think Horror movies usually have the lowest quality because, it's easy to make a "scary movie" give it a spooky vibe and give it a few jumpscares which is very easy to do, don't need any decent script, actors just need to act scared and that's good enough. That's all it takes to make a "scary" movie
This is a good point. It's too easy to make "enough" money off of a horror movie with no budget or effort, so studios don't feel any need to give them the budget and resources they need to make something good. ( I thought I'd give you a comment that wasn't an obnoxious bot)
The Descent is one of, if not my absolute favorite horror film of all time. It had everything in it, from claustrophobia to gore to creatures of terror. The feeling of dread and isolation gets worse and worse. And the women were all badass in their own way! The characters truly sold it for me
The Lighthouse with Robert Pattinson and Willem Dafoe is legitimately one of the most disturbing and insane movies I’ve seen in the past few years. Basically it’s them two losing their sanity on an island while working as Lighthouse workers. The acting is amazing and downright insane. I’d recommend if you like psychological thriller.
@@toogud7918I think there's a distinction between something being physically or emotionally disturbing, so to speak. So I guess what I wanna say is you both make a good point, just from different perspectives :)
That’s why Skinamarink made so many people think about the horror genre, that feeling of intense dread and the fact it was two unaware children being thrust into a situation they had no reason to be a part of made everyone aware of what horror truly could be
God skinamarink is such an amazing movie. The first time I watched it, I was TERRIFIED, but the concept still kinda went over my head. The second and third time I watched it though, it just got scarier as I began really understanding it all. What a masterpiece.
I love divisive horror movies because, for the most part, it shows that there was a clear vision. I will die on the hill that Skinamarink is my least favorite movie I've seen... but there was a vision, and a lot of people love it. Same with 'The Witch' and 'Midsommar'--two of my favorites, that the other half of people hate. A movie like Night Swim has 0 vision.. people on both sides of the argument are gonna be talking about Skinamarink LOOOOONG after Night Swim. In fact, I think everyone's already done talking about Night Swim...
The problem about horror these days is that so many games try too hard to be scary or gross. There's no dread or underlying meaning/message, no relation, mystery, or point to it. The people who make most of the slop in the horror scenes just don't understand how horror works, or that it's not always suppose to be about scares or gore/shock. They just do what seems popular and call it a day.
It was a lot better than expected, and the young bro's acting was super good, but the last 10 mins or so dropped the ball. I don't know wtf happened - maybe they ran out of money or couldn't decide the ending - but it felt so rushed. Even the twist at the very end was pretty meh even though it was presented well.
@waketp420would you mind giving a list of recent English language horror movies that are particularly better? I don’t think I’ve seen much better come out in the past 5 years
One thing I noticed is that Blumhouse has been releasing so many movies in a single year 2023 alone had 8 It's no surprise their quality is so inconsistent
@@PerfectPanels9 Uhm... They didn't release 8 horror movies last year. They released more than 8 movies, but only 2 or 3 horror movies. So. How exactly can they disprove a statement about Blumhouse? Did you hit your head? Or were you under the impression A24 was a horror publisher instead of an arthouse producer?
@@theoretic7856 the fact that they released more than 8 movies and they were good. I guess some people are too dense to understand simple shit like this.
What made The Exorcist one of, if not the best horror movie ever made, is because not only is it telling a story, with characters and their arcs. Even as a regular movie, it's phenomenal. But what made the insanity in that 3rd Act work, was because of all the build leading up to it. There's this dread that's constantly building and building, no real scares until as the movie progresses and progresses. And barely any music. Just ambience.
Yep, their are plenty of amazing horror movies with great stories and characters and themes. But it’s just really easy to make a dogshit low effort horror movie that still makes money.
Oscar's aren't actually recognition of talent. An Oscar is bought, not earned. The academy is a bunch of people spoiled and pampered by mega corporations to put the Oscar winner label on their films.
The first sinister is creepy I'm not going to lie movies been out for 12 years and it still gives me creeps to this day there's just something about that sinister character that just sends shivers down your spine
Sinister has some incredibly well written characters, with compelling plot lines and terrifying soundtrack. Some jumpscares seem cheap, but they are still unnerving as they build.
To this day V/H/S movies are my favorite scary movies to watch with friends with how disturbing and scary some of those are to watch. Highly recommend it with a group of friends
Loved the first one. The second was alright, Safe Haven was really a masterpiece short film. I love the idea, getting little known directors to direct a short for a bigger audience, I just wish they'd do away with the through-line story trying to connect the shorts because outside of the first movie its taken away from it as a whole (in my opinion.)
Thats why horror is my favorite genre of movies, when they're good they can be intense but when they are bad they are hilarious, its just fun all around
@@derpstick5467basically the movie is about a young girl who was abducted and tortured for like a whole year. The woman escapes and then 15 years later, finds out the identities and the address of the family that may or may not have tortured her. She goes and kills them and their children to get revenge. *SPOILER* Afterwards, there is a big reveal that torturers were part of a group of people that believe that someone at the very edge of death that has gone through intense suffering can gain a glimpse of the afterlife and relay what they see back to this group. They then make the main character their next test subject. It’s an extremely disturbing film, but it’s also legitimately one of the best horror films ever made. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone unless I was really close to them and knew they would be able to get through it
i find it funny how often charlie uses that spongebob episode where squidward travels to that empty dimension to be all alone in comparisons. i swear he’s mentioned that episode more times than he’s watched horror movies
The thing about horror is that studios nowadays don't even attempt to invoke a sense of dread. Jumpscares don't work if you're not primed for it the same way you don't usually laugh at a funeral. Even if something does startle you, you quickly move past it if you're above a certain age, it doesn't really make you feel unsafe in the theater. Also, they have no messages, they just exist to be scary, not to be frightening by commenting on something real or a common fear, just "look at spooky thing." Gorefests especially suck because the shock is short, and sometimes it's so comically bloody you can't relate to it because you know the human body doesn't work like that (looking at you SAW sequels.) Besides, looking at blood and guts is not scary, the scare is thinking the person you relate to in the movie might get got.
The saw movies were still great up until the 3rd or 4th movie, I just feel like Amanda and Hoffman and any other accomplice sucked asscheeks at actually relaying that same mysteriousness and intrigue that John Kramer brought in with his interesting philosophy and life experiences.. obviously he was flawed as well and every sane fan in the franchise knows it but I just felt like I had to lay this out
It's not just that sometimes when they have the horror villains/monsters they'll slaughter a bunch of disposable characters including the protagonist closest friend(s) they'll even display some interesting abilities but when it comes to the protagonist their either bumbling idiots or they play with their food. I'd like it if the villain mangles or wounds the protagonist leaving (not killing them) making the villain a formidable threat
No one does a jump scare like Mike Flanagan! Like Haunting of Hill House only had a couple & were beyond unexpected! Truly the best jump scare ever in that one!
Some people don’t like it but midsommar also gave me such a weird vibe to the point where I don’t even like watching it idk why it’s just really unnerving
Yes! That is the most recent movie that actually made me feel suspense. And it scared the shit out of me when towards the end the mom was hiding on the ceiling. I didn't see her for so long until she started moving. Omg.
Hereditary I think revived horror as a genre for a lot of people. I know it did for me. Watched it alone in an empty theater a few weeks after it came out and it was perfect. I wasn't even planning it, I was just walking around and came up to a theater and that was the next movie playing. Started watching a lot of horror after that.
I really really loved As Above So Below. I always say it’s my favorite horror movie, although I don’t think many people agree with that. After rewatching it, I agree that it can be somewhat silly. But the catacombs have always scared me shitless, and seeing it come to life along with a complex and interesting storyline, makes it perhaps my all time fav.
The real golden goose to find is a horror movie that's actually scary as well as being good. There's countless horror films that are boring, unintentionally funny, messed up, or creepy but very few that are legitimate scary. Like watching the movie makes you feel chills down your spine and afraid to go to sleep. I've legit never seen an actually scary horror movie. Plenty that are unsettling, but not really scary.
The older movies sure. The newer ones....eh. The newer ones are just mediocre with some good scenes then he rest feels like any other modern horror movies.
@@imtired4914 correct, but they are considered by most as staples in modern mainstream horror, so if one has not seen them yet, he absolutely has not seen 99% of horror movies (which would ofc include foreign horror)
As someone who owns the worst of the worst films on Blu-ray, it’s exclusively a creative bankruptcy idea at this point trying to avoid stereotypes and appeal to a PG-13 audience now. It’s so upsetting to watch the genre fall apart.
I'd argue that horror is on the upswing. Remember horror in the late 2000s to early 2010s? Multiple of the best movies of 2022 were horror films. Talk to me last year won the equivalent of best picture in Australia. There is a massive number of r rated horror movies that came out last year compared to the pg 13 horror films of last year. This comment section is brain dead when it comes to discussing the horror genre holy shit. And horror has always been a lot of shit movies and then a few absolute bangers every year since the 70s. Same applies to every movie genre.
@@bobsandwich3431Really. I don't understand why Charlie is so pessimistic towards the genre. Yeah there are a bunch of stinkers, but also so many fantastic horror films.
im a huge horror fan and I dont think ive ever seen the nun, or any conuring past the first one, or possession generic move of the year, etc... horror lives in the indie space,. there will be one horror movie a year that makes it to theaters in a big release, AT best, that I will see, but most are via streaming and from horror specific platforms such as Shudder. Horror is better than ever, you just need to know how to navigate thru all the buillshit. I have been using r/Horror to get recommendations for over a decade and find movies I would never have heard of on obscure streaming platforms that were bangers. if you are indiscriminate in what you watch then that just means you dont value your time or have a ton of free time, like charlie does. you gotta do research to find recommendations and remember.. NEVER watch the trailers in horror.
The thing to keep in mind is, horror is a genre that's always kinda struggled. Even in the 80s it wasn't perfect, slasher movies were coming out everywhere because they were cheap and easy to make, just hire some actors to play teenagers and have a guy in a hockey mask chase them around some trees, rinse and repeat. The problem, as it is with a lot of things, is people assume it's easy to do and try their hand at it, only to then realise too late how difficult it actually is, so we end up bombarded with low-quality horror movies from various terrible directors, with only a few good ones slipping through the cracks.
Charlie: "I've seen about 99.9% of all horror movies!" Also Charlie _rattling off a list of bad movies:_ "Haven't seen that one...haven't seen that one....haven't seen that one..."
As a fellow Horror Movie fan, I have a few obscure films I wonder if you've seen, and if so, what you think of them: 1. Frankenfish 2. Snakehead Terror 3. Dark Was the Night 4. Hole in the Ground 5. Lo 6. The Curse of Sleeping Beauty
@@alipie02 I always add it to any rec list. It's very simple but it carries a lot of weight. I enjoy it's take on the occult and demon summoning as well.
@@jordanfelt5978I don't know what's more funny, @BroccinRoss throwing out that random "wheel of cheese" as an example or the fact that I'm not the only one thinking I appreciate the joke but also, still -- Yeah I always want to know about cheese! Plate of shrimp?
I’ve favored horror movies ever since I was a toddler. Sinister was the only movie to ever give me nightmares😅Never thought I’d be scared of the boogeyman💀
I enjoyed the autopsy of Jane Doe too. Not the best name for a film but it was genuinely creepy. I think there was a bad game that was made that was pretty similar.
In my opinion, you can tell if a horror movie will be bad just based on its opening. A good horror needs to hook you in right away. Sinister is really good and it does this. The opening left me with a pit in my stomach upon first watch. With imaginary, I felt nothing.
Rosemary's Baby, the exorcist, The shining, and evil dead had pretty mundane and uneventful openings and those are horror classics. This definitely isn't the case. Judging the quality of an entire movie based on one scene is absurd. Especially with movies that like to draw you in slowly and not throw you a cheap jump scare off the bat.
@@bobsandwich3431 Well, I'm not totally saying it's just based on the opening. You are right, there are some great slow burns out there. Every horror I've really like though, either the story setup in the opening or the scare in the opening was wonderful. Evil dead rise and sinister are more of the great scare opening, while Halloween and Childs play has that good story hook opening. I want to learn more about the crazy man chanting to a doll just as much as I want to see what lead up to a woman getting her scalp ripped off or a family getting hanged from a tree.
@bobsandwich3431 The exorcist literally has one of the best suspenseful openings ever. That scene where the dude is just staring at the statue in the middle of the desert still sticks in my head.
It's laughable how stupid he sounds in this. "I'd be in the top 1%" *proceeds to list fairly successful recent horror films he hasn't seen and disingenuously calls them dogshit". Didn't realize Charlie was gonna go full clown mode on this one.
Charlie mentioned they scrubbed the archives about the clones. What does he mean by that? I have seen the 1st 3 movies in the chapters but don't remember them scrubbing the archives or does he mean when Obi Wan looked for them in the Jedi Public Library?
@@sleezy2953 To be fair I'm not sure if he pointed out any other proof but saying Horror is bad because Blumhouse (One of a hundred shitty Hollywood brands) makes shit movies while not being able to even advocate for most is hilarious
@@sleezy2953if I act like a sci fi expert, say that the genre is garbage and proceed to only list Marvel movies I don't think I'd be making a good point
I’ve been so excited for plagueseeker. I also love watching a ton of horror movies. My mom thought I was strange for watching them, but she sat down once with me and now we watch them together all the time.
@@ModernMedusa that’s the best part of it follows it takes it’s time with it’s horror you don’t know what to expect in the film that’s what horror should be not just jumpscares force in I recommend it follows for others to see truly I think this movie has a good example of how to build in scares without just forcing it in
I don’t get how Charlie can talk about how many horror movies he’s seen and then say he hasn’t seen movies like sinister or It Follows. It’s like saying “yeah I’ve eaten so much food, I’ve literally eaten the shit out of every toilet, so yeah, food sucks” It seems like he avoids the good ones
Haven't seen a horror movie and been scared since forever... can't even remember the last time a horror movie had me biting my nails, wetting the bed, and losing my edging streak
@@kbcustoms3571watching hereditary in theaters was one of the best movie experiences I’ve ever had. You could just feel the air get sucked out of the room when that one thing happened and it was just so uncomfortable and unnerving the entire time after
@@yowatchie I was skeptical about that claim when he said it, but then when he said he hadn’t seen “It Follows”, I was like yeah… no. Whether or not someone likes It Follows, it was still a pretty popular film with lots of coverage. Hard to miss it when you apparently watch so many horror movies.
I studied film in college and it was kind of a well-known inside joke that horror films are among the easiest to write/film/ and produce, and tend to be the first projects that new directors try.
bad horror sure, but i'd argue a good horror is incredibly hard to make and with the extremes that people push in the genre, they don't all strike me as easy
@nathanr6381 budget and production yes, its very easy. I went to school for animation and they told us that as well. Something cheep and easy to get your foot in the door. Remember, Jaws ruined a tourist industry for a whole summer and all they had was music and a shitty shark anamatronic that was broken. Horror is the best to start because it's a lot less restrictive as others and is prone to be experimental by nature. So yeah. Rule of thumb is to start with horror. It's cheep, while being artsy, while not requiring specialized talents outside your own specially.
@@infiniteoctopaw idk, maybe im just concerend on semantics. I watch a lot of horror and there doesn't seem to be much 'easy' about it. I guess to start off your film career sure, and there are plenty of examples.. but i think of movies like hereditary where there has been effort to think of every single detail and especially when dealing with myths etc, to make sure it is all accurate and makes sense. I just find at least with the horror I watch, there's often rewatch value where each time you'll pick something new up. Then there's the smaller low budget horrors with a load of gore like Jorge Buttgereit stuff. May seem easy on the surface but they usually can't just use CGI for everything so have to put in huge amounts of effort doing everything practical. And then I guess a lesser point but good horror takes guts (literal sometimes). I've seen so many artsy, experimental, daring movies and most are horror, with the extreme nature of the genre I guess. It's I guess mental effort, putting pretty horrifying, experimental stuff out there hoping it aint gonna get destroyed by reviews or straight up censored or banned
@@nathanr6381 I didn't comment on bad horror vs good horror. It is simply the most straightforward genre you can make films for, so it is perceived as easier. Of course, along that spectrum you are going to get a wide range of quality, but my explanation was to illustrate why the bad ones are so common, not to discredit the genre as a whole.
@@nathanr6381Think of horror compared to other genres. Compare the most beloved horror movies, and compare them to the most beloved action or drama movies. There's an objective difference in the depth of story, filming techniques, budget needed, etc. I'm a horror fan. My entertainment is almost exclusively in the horror fan cliche handbook. But it is certainly the easiest to do, whether good or bad.
i’ve watched every horror movie on every streaming platform since 2020. the best horror movie i’ve seen lately was “a classic horror story” it’s an italian horror film on netflix it had perfect gore, perfect plot, amazing message as well. it was inspired by midsomer, a cabin in the woods, and texas chainsaw massacre and it perfectly encapsulates all three of those movies at the same time.
Skinamarink was more an horror experience than an actual horror movie. I really like how grainy, unfocused, and shadowy all the scenes were. Even the audio was grainy and at times, dead silent. Ironically, the subtitles made it more scary imo. It really captures an unsettling mood really well. Unfortunately, that was all it. Just mood. There wasn't a narrative or even a linear plot. It was super unsatisfying to watch, because it had so much good buildup for an abrupt ending.
It’s an experimental film, and it did its job well. Many people hated it but it showed alot of promise, meaning we could get better movies of the same style in the future
@@bobsandwich3431he’s exaggerating there lol, lol obviously it’s a horror movie because you’re watching women or men? Both? Getting physically and psychologically tortured, still don’t know what the movie is about but I know there’s skinning.
@@derpstick5467 Def watch Elvis the Alien's review of it. He explains everything that happens in it and even though you're not watching it and he's mostly cracking jokes, you still feel horrified by what happens in the movie. I don't think I could get through that kind of movie in one sitting
@@TheGoldenDunsparce lol honestly I don’t even want to watch a review of it, just give me a quick summary of it, like is it a revenge story? Do the people who get tortured deserve it? Is the ending just bleak or bittersweet?
The autopsy of Jane Doe is actually great. The plays your with anticipation and it makes it super unsettling. It also explains very little but give you lots of breadcrumbs. I’d recommend watching it again if you really did see it.
Couldn't agree more. I loved this movie and I watch a lot of horror movies but I really like the setting of this one. Also absolutely recommend checking out!
Absolutely recommend "It Follows". Its an incredible film that I absolutely cherish. It's not perfect but man is it good. Then I also recommend watching "Resolution" and "The Endless" back to back.
On the topic of MARTYRS and it’s psychological horror, The Poughkeepsie Tapes is a very good disturbing/psychological horror. It’s been burned into my memory as a staple for horror ever since I watched it.
Rooster Teeth’s Theater Mode really opened up my eyes to what B movies could be, especially horror films. There’s something so fun about those shoddily put together movies, at least when there’s a genuine effort to them
the way he feels abt martyrs is how i felt about Possum, me n my friends just sat there in complete silence during some scenes, the discomfort in the room was THICKK i wanted so bad to fast fwd it. but tbh great movie imo
That’s why Skinamarink, for its flaws, had me sitting bolt-upright in bed (I was watching this by myself at my apartment) with almost like an anxiousness buzzing through my nervous system at what would happen next because it was just so weird with such a creepy atmosphere
“The Strangers” was really scary for me, solely based off how it could happen to literally anyone. If I’m not mistaken, it’s based off a true story as well
The true story that the film is based on, is the writer receiving a knock on his door late at night. Then no one was there. Based on a true story should be taken very loosely when watching film. Still, I agree I find The Strangers to be spooky. Especially if home invasion is something scary to you.
The real problem with modern horror is the rely on jump scares. It’s the equivalent of being a comedian and tickling your audience to get a laugh. Real horror is stuff like Black Mirror, Love death and robots or Twilight zone.
yeah. I used to be a fan of horror movies same with my friend, but at some point years ago we just never watched one ever again. Last one we ever saw was Get Out in the theatre, haven’t seen anything before that for a couple years and never again after. It’s kind of sad that what I consider my favourite horror movies, are video games lol, one of which relies on the jumpscares too but at least has an interesting story attached to it, and another of which isn’t even considered a horror game at all.
To be clear, A24 is primarily a distribution company. They have produced/financed some work, but a majority of the films in their catalog were written, filmed, and edited without their involvement. What they’ve done well is find and distribute films and market them, and themselves, really well with a consistent style, so you typically know what to expect from an “A24 film” as a result
On the movie Sinister, the movie overall is like a solid 8 in my books. It's a fairly compelling horror movie with a good, actually scary antagonist. I find the parts where the creepiness is at it's peak is during the tape scenes. There just some real sense of dread when watching them, not to mention they actually look a bit real in the way they're executed.
one of the best sound effects/music in horror. that shit they play whenver watching the films is soo good and id argue carries the weight of the movie on its shoulders
The internet hyped that movie for me so much and when I finally got to watch it, it started strong but got weak as heck ; very cheesy and with visual effects that pulled me away rather than dragging me in.
In my video production class, there have been so many horror/thriller films made, with most of being not that great. I think the main draw for them is that they are pretty easy to make and it’s one of the easiest genres to get reactions from the audience (cheap jump scares), while in most other genres you need to put a lot more thought into the writing and cinematography in order to get genuine reactions and emotions. In one of my short films earlier this year, we included some elements of horror, but it wasn’t the main focus of the story and it had a bittersweet ending.
finally! someone who recognizes Martyrs and it being absolutely terrifying, it traumatized me for whole 2 weeks after i watched it, it is definitely the best horror movie ever made imo
_mother!_ is one of my favorite horror films of all time! I don’t think I’ve ever seen a horror movie that perfectly captures the feeling of anxiety for me.
I've been a horror movie fan since the 80s, and I can say that right now is maybe the best time to be a horror fan that there's ever been. Like any other genre we get a lot of schlock thrown our way, that's true, but that's always been the case. If you watch a horror awards show or check a "best of the year" list, you can see that the cream of the crop just keeps getting better. Last year we had so many bangers. We had really hard-hitting, thoughtful elevated stuff like Talk To Me, When Evil Lurks, and Huesara but we also had really fun (but well-executed) stuff like M3gan, Scream VI, and Totally Killer (it's good!). And there's no one subgenre that's dominating the whole market, like in the 90s when everything was Scream clones or when everything was torture p*rn or when everything was found footage. We've got such a great variety right now of really top-tier stuff - possessions, hauntings, slashers, creature features, thrillers, comedies, and more. I just feel like we need to appreciate it while it's here before it all goes to shit again - after all, it won't be long until we're getting horror movies that are 100% AI-generated. Then we'll be nostalgic as hell for these times.
Absolutely. I can't believe the comments in this section say horror is worse now. 2022 had an insane number of incredibly well made horror films. Never have I seen so many horror films crack the top ten lists of people for the year. Horror is fantastic right now better than it's ever been and much better than the last 2 decades. I mean shit the 3 most famous new directors ari aster, eggers, and peele have a filmography of mostly horror films so far.
Something I noticed in most horror movies is how unbelievably streched out they are. Even if they are 90 minutes or shorter, like 50-75% of their runtime is filled up by unneccessary character drama, chores, or just nothingness
What I love about Charlie is that he finds very specific passions and has ABSOLUTELY not shame about it. He then can talk about it for humorously and that's a great video every time
Hey! The Haunting of Sally Bacawnrench is a media marvel! ....that said, i fully agree. I remember leaving a horror film recently (cant really remember which one at this point) went in excited, but left with a slow depleting hype asking myself in the car "...did i actually like that?"
It Follows is one of my favorites, still think about it and it's also got a deeper meaning when you finally figure out what "it" really is.. They're finally making a sequel, can't wait!
Probably more old school here but my top three horror are Alien, Hellraiser and Event Horizon. The one movie that really got under my skin was Event Horizon.
It's really interesting you mentioned Sinister because I just found a DVD of it at Goodwill for three bucks. Definitely up there in terms of horror movies, if memory serves. It left enough of an impression for me to want to add it to my physical collection.
One of my favorite horror movies is “It follows” and the only reason I like it so much is because of the intense music they used for the scene where the grandma is chasing the mc in school
The main issues with Modern Horror Movies is 2 Things
1. Repeating the Same Formula
2. Showing Too Much in the Trailers
I say it's just so easy to make a "scary movie"
Like someone else said, just make a spooky title, add some jump scares, have the actors act scared, and you got a Hollywood scary movie with a $50k budget.
I solved issue two by not even watching trailers. I'll see the movie title and watch it if I have the time.
Idk if you can say that. Movies like Nope and X/Pearl and Talk to me and WHen evil lurks change up their formula
Exploiting jump scares and same old formula
Who the fuck watches trailers
Horror movies are so often awful that every once in while when one is good, it’s seen as an absolute masterpiece.
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Sad but true. People have become so desensitized to trash that even a mediocre movie seems good.
Yes, because in that genre, it is a masterpiece if someone can actually make a good horror movie lol
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@@itz_me_peaceful_devil_21shut your annoying ass up, bozo
He didn't see the movie called "Unseen." That movie certainly lives up to its name.
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Good lord 😂 @@Kingnothing7x
what even is unseen
how about the movie "Unsane" with Jay Pharoah and Claire Foy. idk if it's "horror" but it's psychological
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“Why is this movie so scary?”
Charlie: It’s extremely french
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Its a good movie! Saw it when I was 17.. I am 35 now. Times flies
Another similar movie is called Frontier(S), its good as well. Brutal af
The french do it best.
the subgenre is new french extremity
Horror and Comedy are incredibly hard genres to work in because the envelope constantly has to be pushed for them to hold up. 50 years ago our grandparents were puking in the theaters when the chestburster scene happened. They were laughing at Larry Moe and Curly tripping eachother. Before that they werent showering because they heard a reet reet reet sound effect in their mind whenever they closed the shower curtain.
The two genres are incredibly dynamic on top of being incredibly subjective.
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Not necessarily. Everything is just copy & paste and comes across as halfassed. You can have horror come across effectively without having to do the most. There’s hardly any originality anymore.
Yeah, they definitely are similar in many respects. Hence, you have the Jordan Peele's of the world becoming so successful
@@marcussmithereens-smithert5409 He doesn’t make horror. It’s barely suspenseful. How people categorize that as horror idk.
@@5methoxy I suppose people have different tastes and opinions to you. What are some movies you deem to be suspenseful and worthy of being called horror?
Horror is the new comedy genre now. half the horror trash is so bad, I don't know how they even edit it with a straight face.
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Sounds like someone needs to watch more horror films
"now" lmao
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It's Hollywood...so most likely edited by a gay face.
I think Horror movies usually have the lowest quality because, it's easy to make a "scary movie" give it a spooky vibe and give it a few jumpscares which is very easy to do, don't need any decent script, actors just need to act scared and that's good enough. That's all it takes to make a "scary" movie
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This is a good point.
It's too easy to make "enough" money off of a horror movie with no budget or effort, so studios don't feel any need to give them the budget and resources they need to make something good.
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@@kevingluys3063 I appreciate it
Romance too. Like hallmark and lifetime style movies
The Descent is one of, if not my absolute favorite horror film of all time. It had everything in it, from claustrophobia to gore to creatures of terror. The feeling of dread and isolation gets worse and worse. And the women were all badass in their own way! The characters truly sold it for me
Yeah it’s One of my favorite movies of all time.
The Lighthouse with Robert Pattinson and Willem Dafoe is legitimately one of the most disturbing and insane movies I’ve seen in the past few years. Basically it’s them two losing their sanity on an island while working as Lighthouse workers. The acting is amazing and downright insane. I’d recommend if you like psychological thriller.
Willem Dafoe giving his lobster monologue is like a top 5 movie scene for me
Great movie wouldn’t call it disturbing, something like salo, canibal holocaust, pink flamingos or Inside is disturbing
@@toogud7918when someone mentions Cannibal Holocaust, u know they've seen some shit
@@toogud7918na cannibal holocaust is just gross
@@toogud7918I think there's a distinction between something being physically or emotionally disturbing, so to speak. So I guess what I wanna say is you both make a good point, just from different perspectives :)
4:10 "unseen...i never saw that one" is peak comedy
beat me to it 😂😂
That’s why Skinamarink made so many people think about the horror genre, that feeling of intense dread and the fact it was two unaware children being thrust into a situation they had no reason to be a part of made everyone aware of what horror truly could be
Skinamarink was such a W movie
God skinamarink is such an amazing movie. The first time I watched it, I was TERRIFIED, but the concept still kinda went over my head. The second and third time I watched it though, it just got scarier as I began really understanding it all. What a masterpiece.
I love divisive horror movies because, for the most part, it shows that there was a clear vision.
I will die on the hill that Skinamarink is my least favorite movie I've seen... but there was a vision, and a lot of people love it.
Same with 'The Witch' and 'Midsommar'--two of my favorites, that the other half of people hate.
A movie like Night Swim has 0 vision.. people on both sides of the argument are gonna be talking about Skinamarink LOOOOONG after Night Swim.
In fact, I think everyone's already done talking about Night Swim...
@@all4youtube192 Static noise and dark rooms aren't scary.
i liked the cheap ass jump scares in that movie
The problem about horror these days is that so many games try too hard to be scary or gross. There's no dread or underlying meaning/message, no relation, mystery, or point to it. The people who make most of the slop in the horror scenes just don't understand how horror works, or that it's not always suppose to be about scares or gore/shock. They just do what seems popular and call it a day.
"Talk To Me" by the Rakka Rakka boys was extremely solid too.
That one rattled me a bit at a few points
I watched it and didn't find it that impressive/good, unfortunately.
@waketp420For a 1st debut movie it embarrasses nearly every modern horror today
It was a lot better than expected, and the young bro's acting was super good, but the last 10 mins or so dropped the ball. I don't know wtf happened - maybe they ran out of money or couldn't decide the ending - but it felt so rushed. Even the twist at the very end was pretty meh even though it was presented well.
@waketp420would you mind giving a list of recent English language horror movies that are particularly better? I don’t think I’ve seen much better come out in the past 5 years
@waketp420I feel like it’s corniness was intentional since the foot scene felt so Evil Dead inspired
One thing I noticed is that Blumhouse has been releasing so many movies in a single year
2023 alone had 8
It's no surprise their quality is so inconsistent
A24 could disprove that. Look at how many films they release.
@@PerfectPanels9 Good lord 💀
Are their movies any good? Never heard of them
That is how they have been doing it for ages, though. They have never been consistent.
@@PerfectPanels9 Uhm... They didn't release 8 horror movies last year. They released more than 8 movies, but only 2 or 3 horror movies. So. How exactly can they disprove a statement about Blumhouse? Did you hit your head? Or were you under the impression A24 was a horror publisher instead of an arthouse producer?
@@theoretic7856 the fact that they released more than 8 movies and they were good. I guess some people are too dense to understand simple shit like this.
Not seeing sinister as a horror movie fan is insane to me lol, has one of the best horror soundtracks ever
ya the music alone is genuinely horrific that song that plays when they're filming that burning car is so so bad
Sinister is too scary.
Sinister is my favorite horror movie ever, I dont know how Charlie hasnt seen it considering how much he watches horror movies.
Bro when he said he seen every horror movie and then not sinister
yeah he's missing a banger. Ethan Hawk is amazing in it
Why is nobody talking about "stripper dollar air blast"? That shit had me rolling.
Not enough people stick around to the end of UA-cam vids anymore that was an absolutely wild conclusion.
it was such a random turn for this video to take lmao
My thinking was how the heck do you even come up with the idea to do that? It's like the ping pong ball thing.
@@TheHeavenlyCzarbro cake farting popped off in 2015/16, the coochie cannon is so normal compared to it. Also, she probably Kegals to do it.
What made The Exorcist one of, if not the best horror movie ever made, is because not only is it telling a story, with characters and their arcs. Even as a regular movie, it's phenomenal. But what made the insanity in that 3rd Act work, was because of all the build leading up to it. There's this dread that's constantly building and building, no real scares until as the movie progresses and progresses. And barely any music. Just ambience.
Yep, their are plenty of amazing horror movies with great stories and characters and themes. But it’s just really easy to make a dogshit low effort horror movie that still makes money.
The MRI scene is probably my favorite part in the film. There's this level of unease throughout it.
I wish we could have more movies like insidious, Blair witch project, the poltergeist, or paranormal activity.
Bro there's so many great movies like this coming out to this day. Look at No One WIll Save You. That movie has no dialogue and its amazing
Saw it for the first time a few years ago and it's pretty mid, I think. It was kinda goofy. The Thing still holds up really well though
Horror is so so underappreciated at the academy. There’s so many performances that would hands down win best actor/actress. It’s a shame
Suspiria 2018 comes to mind
What an amazing movie
@@CoreDump451 and Us is so good too
The performance in "Climax" completely floored me.
@@ApahtieParty dude i watched that high shit confused the shit out of me lol
Oscar's aren't actually recognition of talent. An Oscar is bought, not earned. The academy is a bunch of people spoiled and pampered by mega corporations to put the Oscar winner label on their films.
The first sinister is creepy I'm not going to lie movies been out for 12 years and it still gives me creeps to this day there's just something about that sinister character that just sends shivers down your spine
The first 6 minutes were so creepy!!
The snuff films and the sound design in that movie are legitimately perfect
I agree it was creepy but as soon as I saw the villain I just can't not see him as mick Thomson from Slipknot lol
You have the six first minutes of that movie were pretty damn creepy
It's pretty good, though I find that there's a little bit of a drag to it around 2/3 of the way through.
Sinister has some incredibly well written characters, with compelling plot lines and terrifying soundtrack. Some jumpscares seem cheap, but they are still unnerving as they build.
I felt the jumpscares were very well paced out. And I'm usually quite critical of jumpscares.
AND THAT SOUNDTRACK 😭
Sinister was ruined for me because of the cheap jumpscares.
I feel like sinister is the one horror movie i can think of that did jumpscares right
To this day V/H/S movies are my favorite scary movies to watch with friends with how disturbing and scary some of those are to watch. Highly recommend it with a group of friends
the first one is such a staple to the horror genre
Loved the first one. The second was alright, Safe Haven was really a masterpiece short film. I love the idea, getting little known directors to direct a short for a bigger audience, I just wish they'd do away with the through-line story trying to connect the shorts because outside of the first movie its taken away from it as a whole (in my opinion.)
L take
@@fritzthecat8158have you seen the '94 one or whatever it's called ??
@@fritzthecat8158 have you seen any of the newer ones ? the 90’s one was decent !
Thats why horror is my favorite genre of movies, when they're good they can be intense but when they are bad they are hilarious, its just fun all around
I was on mushrooms the first time I watched Terrifier and I thought it was the funniest thing I'd ever seen
*they’re
@@aesop2733the absolute fucking insanity of terrifier makes it hilarious in the weirdest way
@@ferretyluv thanks
this is so true
my sister and i used to watch bad horror as teens and it was so fun 😭
Martyrs whole movie can be summed up in one quote
"Stop he's already dead!"
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Martyrs is so disturbing
I loved the original. The remake was trying too hard to be like its predecessor.
So wtf is the movie about? Like besides i guess seeing people get flayed. What is the ending?
@@derpstick5467basically the movie is about a young girl who was abducted and tortured for like a whole year. The woman escapes and then 15 years later, finds out the identities and the address of the family that may or may not have tortured her. She goes and kills them and their children to get revenge.
*SPOILER*
Afterwards, there is a big reveal that torturers were part of a group of people that believe that someone at the very edge of death that has gone through intense suffering can gain a glimpse of the afterlife and relay what they see back to this group. They then make the main character their next test subject.
It’s an extremely disturbing film, but it’s also legitimately one of the best horror films ever made. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone unless I was really close to them and knew they would be able to get through it
Martyrs is an insane experience. Legit one of the best movies, not just horror-wise
literally just torture prn imo, didn't like it that much. the only good thing were the last 15ish minutes
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But the whole movie was essentially laying out why those last 15 minutes were so good. Crazy ending to any movie
Horror has always been a budget low quality genre. But i agree with Charlie, the sheer quantity of bad horror movies is getting higher every year...
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The 80s was when the best horror came out, even bad ones were good cause they all had effort in them
@@itz_me_peaceful_devil_21 nuh uh
there are great horror movies, but they are rarer than a shiny-legendary pokemon
@@saparapatepeteI've never caught a shiny, but I've seen loads of genuinely well written and engaging horror movies lol.
Horror tier list is a great idea, u should do that next stream
i find it funny how often charlie uses that spongebob episode where squidward travels to that empty dimension to be all alone in comparisons. i swear he’s mentioned that episode more times than he’s watched horror movies
The thing about horror is that studios nowadays don't even attempt to invoke a sense of dread. Jumpscares don't work if you're not primed for it the same way you don't usually laugh at a funeral. Even if something does startle you, you quickly move past it if you're above a certain age, it doesn't really make you feel unsafe in the theater.
Also, they have no messages, they just exist to be scary, not to be frightening by commenting on something real or a common fear, just "look at spooky thing." Gorefests especially suck because the shock is short, and sometimes it's so comically bloody you can't relate to it because you know the human body doesn't work like that (looking at you SAW sequels.) Besides, looking at blood and guts is not scary, the scare is thinking the person you relate to in the movie might get got.
The saw movies were still great up until the 3rd or 4th movie, I just feel like Amanda and Hoffman and any other accomplice sucked asscheeks at actually relaying that same mysteriousness and intrigue that John Kramer brought in with his interesting philosophy and life experiences.. obviously he was flawed as well and every sane fan in the franchise knows it but I just felt like I had to lay this out
It's not just that sometimes when they have the horror villains/monsters they'll slaughter a bunch of disposable characters including the protagonist closest friend(s) they'll even display some interesting abilities but when it comes to the protagonist their either bumbling idiots or they play with their food.
I'd like it if the villain mangles or wounds the protagonist leaving (not killing them) making the villain a formidable threat
@@python3322hated the newest one
No one does a jump scare like Mike Flanagan! Like Haunting of Hill House only had a couple & were beyond unexpected! Truly the best jump scare ever in that one!
Alot of people might find actual horror kinda disturbing, like I don't know if the hills have eyes could be released in this era
Hereditary is one of my favourite horror movies of all time because I love like atmospheric horror and like when things just don't feel right etc
The best
Some people don’t like it but midsommar also gave me such a weird vibe to the point where I don’t even like watching it idk why it’s just really unnerving
Yes! That is the most recent movie that actually made me feel suspense. And it scared the shit out of me when towards the end the mom was hiding on the ceiling. I didn't see her for so long until she started moving. Omg.
Hereditary I think revived horror as a genre for a lot of people. I know it did for me. Watched it alone in an empty theater a few weeks after it came out and it was perfect. I wasn't even planning it, I was just walking around and came up to a theater and that was the next movie playing. Started watching a lot of horror after that.
Really got me in to the horror genre. Definetly think Charile is wrong about the ending haha
> Claims to have watched 99% of horror films
> Have not seen Sinister or It Follows
Charlie. How does it feel to sit on a throne of lies
Seriously.
It follows was fuckin awesome
It follows was surprisingly good , also has a theme . Sinister is solid 7.5/10
@@Eddie0102 it's trash
John Carpenters The Thing (1982) is the best horror movie imo
1982
@@turnerburner922 You're right. I was best animated film Akira.
No its not...
I really really loved As Above So Below. I always say it’s my favorite horror movie, although I don’t think many people agree with that. After rewatching it, I agree that it can be somewhat silly. But the catacombs have always scared me shitless, and seeing it come to life along with a complex and interesting storyline, makes it perhaps my all time fav.
agreed I love that movie
I enjoyed it for the most part but thought the ending the typical eye roll horror ending. Great idea that was mostly executed well
Horror movies are so samey now with a hidden gem every once in a while it's hard to not wonder if it was always like that.
The real golden goose to find is a horror movie that's actually scary as well as being good. There's countless horror films that are boring, unintentionally funny, messed up, or creepy but very few that are legitimate scary. Like watching the movie makes you feel chills down your spine and afraid to go to sleep. I've legit never seen an actually scary horror movie. Plenty that are unsettling, but not really scary.
Evil dead movies never miss, same with the scream movies, there is always a good time to have with those movies
The older movies sure. The newer ones....eh. The newer ones are just mediocre with some good scenes then he rest feels like any other modern horror movies.
@@shannonhill5676 i think the new ones are still good, yeah the old ones are better but the new ones are still good
Dude hasn’t seen “it follows”, “sinister”, or “autopsy of Jane doe” and he claims to have seen 99% of horror movies 💀
Those three don’t even add up to 1% of horror movies in existence
@@imtired4914 correct, but they are considered by most as staples in modern mainstream horror, so if one has not seen them yet, he absolutely has not seen 99% of horror movies (which would ofc include foreign horror)
@@fritzthecat8158 may I have some recommendations for great horror of any age/language please?
Truuuue those are some of the best horror movies that came out in the last decade or so.
It’s clearly an exaggeration, he’s seen a lot
As someone who owns the worst of the worst films on Blu-ray, it’s exclusively a creative bankruptcy idea at this point trying to avoid stereotypes and appeal to a PG-13 audience now. It’s so upsetting to watch the genre fall apart.
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Sad thing is you’re not completely wrong
I'd argue that horror is on the upswing. Remember horror in the late 2000s to early 2010s? Multiple of the best movies of 2022 were horror films. Talk to me last year won the equivalent of best picture in Australia. There is a massive number of r rated horror movies that came out last year compared to the pg 13 horror films of last year. This comment section is brain dead when it comes to discussing the horror genre holy shit. And horror has always been a lot of shit movies and then a few absolute bangers every year since the 70s. Same applies to every movie genre.
@@bobsandwich3431Really. I don't understand why Charlie is so pessimistic towards the genre. Yeah there are a bunch of stinkers, but also so many fantastic horror films.
im a huge horror fan and I dont think ive ever seen the nun, or any conuring past the first one, or possession generic move of the year, etc... horror lives in the indie space,. there will be one horror movie a year that makes it to theaters in a big release, AT best, that I will see, but most are via streaming and from horror specific platforms such as Shudder. Horror is better than ever, you just need to know how to navigate thru all the buillshit. I have been using r/Horror to get recommendations for over a decade and find movies I would never have heard of on obscure streaming platforms that were bangers. if you are indiscriminate in what you watch then that just means you dont value your time or have a ton of free time, like charlie does. you gotta do research to find recommendations and remember.. NEVER watch the trailers in horror.
The Haunting of Hill House series on Netflix is some of the best horror of the last decade.
Bro no it’s not 💀💀
YES
@@immanuelhayes2109 What would you say is instead?
Not that lmao@@harambae7014
Ugh I LOVE that show. Possibly my favorite show of all time. I love everything in the Flanoverse, but Hill House will always be my favorite by far.
I was NOT expecting that ending
The thing to keep in mind is, horror is a genre that's always kinda struggled. Even in the 80s it wasn't perfect, slasher movies were coming out everywhere because they were cheap and easy to make, just hire some actors to play teenagers and have a guy in a hockey mask chase them around some trees, rinse and repeat.
The problem, as it is with a lot of things, is people assume it's easy to do and try their hand at it, only to then realise too late how difficult it actually is, so we end up bombarded with low-quality horror movies from various terrible directors, with only a few good ones slipping through the cracks.
Charlie just needs to give a list of best horror movies
He should make an essay about how to make a good horror movie
Tbh he don’t actually know that much
incantation, host, and gonjiam asylum are the best horror movies in my opinion
Martyrs is not a Halloween movie. It is not even "scary". It is extremely disturbing.
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You know most horror movies are disturbing right?
@@RaginCanadian-gx2zlNo they’re not. Martyrs is just designed to be just disgusting. It’s like if the cartels made a movie. Like flaying people alive.
@@ferretyluv "What is body horror"
I wouldn't even call it a horror movie. It's more along the lines of Passion of the Christ.
Charlie: "I've seen about 99.9% of all horror movies!"
Also Charlie _rattling off a list of bad movies:_ "Haven't seen that one...haven't seen that one....haven't seen that one..."
And there just the 0.01% 😱
Including having not seen Sinister which is a well known modern horror seen by lots of people.
Hasn't seen "It Follows" 🤦🏾
Hasn't seen totally killer
And kids this why we don’t “trust the experts”
As a fellow Horror Movie fan, I have a few obscure films I wonder if you've seen, and if so, what you think of them:
1. Frankenfish
2. Snakehead Terror
3. Dark Was the Night
4. Hole in the Ground
5. Lo
6. The Curse of Sleeping Beauty
I love that you mentioned Lo. Such a fantastic movie that didn't get nearly enough attention.
@@alipie02 I always add it to any rec list. It's very simple but it carries a lot of weight. I enjoy it's take on the occult and demon summoning as well.
Of course he hasn’t seen those lol he’s a blatant liar. Guarantee bro hasn’t even seen society or re animator
I feel like I could wake up to Charlie talking about a wheel of cheese and he would have my full undivided attention
charlie has talked about wheels of cheese
@@goatedlilwayne Gouda.
@@goatedlilwayneI love cheese, when did he talk about it?
@@jordanfelt5978I don't know what's more funny, @BroccinRoss throwing out that random "wheel of cheese" as an example or the fact that I'm not the only one thinking I appreciate the joke but also, still -- Yeah I always want to know about cheese!
Plate of shrimp?
@@goatedlilwayne Come on dinglebingle, we're waiting for the cheese!! 😂
Sinister was legitimately one of the scariest films I've seen in theaters
sinister is the movie that made me unable to sleep for weeks but i'll still rewatch it because it's so good
@@axhenI legit had a photo of clouds that made up his face in the sky. Legit thought I was going to die from him 😅😳
@@mtmcommunity for me he became my sleep paralysis demon
I’ve favored horror movies ever since I was a toddler. Sinister was the only movie to ever give me nightmares😅Never thought I’d be scared of the boogeyman💀
And then those last 30 minutes happen and ruin the entire film
Slow mo ghost kids ain't scary
I just saw 2 older ones the other day. “The Innkeepers” & “The Autopsy of Jane Doe” both were really good
Autopsy of Jane Doe is good. Actors are decent too for that type of movie.
I enjoyed the autopsy of Jane Doe too. Not the best name for a film but it was genuinely creepy. I think there was a bad game that was made that was pretty similar.
Jane Doe is actually scary, which is hard to come by, and you really make a connection to the very small cast.
Innkeepers ? Which one?
I’m glad someone mentioned Jane Doe. I’m a horror junkie, and I can truly say that JD was one of the only movies in recent memory that had me on edge
Hereditary and Midsommar are amazing!
In my opinion, you can tell if a horror movie will be bad just based on its opening. A good horror needs to hook you in right away. Sinister is really good and it does this. The opening left me with a pit in my stomach upon first watch. With imaginary, I felt nothing.
Exactly, like Friday the 13th, Halloween, Childs Play, Nightmare on Elm Street all had great openings! And they were so good.
Rosemary's Baby, the exorcist, The shining, and evil dead had pretty mundane and uneventful openings and those are horror classics. This definitely isn't the case. Judging the quality of an entire movie based on one scene is absurd. Especially with movies that like to draw you in slowly and not throw you a cheap jump scare off the bat.
Even if they are mundane, that is what is awesome about it. Like the Shining, the opening score, it is chilling and creepy.
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@@bobsandwich3431 Well, I'm not totally saying it's just based on the opening. You are right, there are some great slow burns out there. Every horror I've really like though, either the story setup in the opening or the scare in the opening was wonderful. Evil dead rise and sinister are more of the great scare opening, while Halloween and Childs play has that good story hook opening. I want to learn more about the crazy man chanting to a doll just as much as I want to see what lead up to a woman getting her scalp ripped off or a family getting hanged from a tree.
@bobsandwich3431 The exorcist literally has one of the best suspenseful openings ever. That scene where the dude is just staring at the statue in the middle of the desert still sticks in my head.
Very strong arguments like “Haven’t seen it but it’s probably bad”
It's laughable how stupid he sounds in this. "I'd be in the top 1%" *proceeds to list fairly successful recent horror films he hasn't seen and disingenuously calls them dogshit". Didn't realize Charlie was gonna go full clown mode on this one.
Charlie mentioned they scrubbed the archives about the clones. What does he mean by that? I have seen the 1st 3 movies in the chapters but don't remember them scrubbing the archives or does he mean when Obi Wan looked for them in the Jedi Public Library?
Which is true and most often the case these days
@@sleezy2953 To be fair I'm not sure if he pointed out any other proof but saying Horror is bad because Blumhouse (One of a hundred shitty Hollywood brands) makes shit movies while not being able to even advocate for most is hilarious
@@sleezy2953if I act like a sci fi expert, say that the genre is garbage and proceed to only list Marvel movies I don't think I'd be making a good point
“Bad movies and horror goes together like cereal and milk” is one hell of a quote
The last minute of this video took a really weird turn but so worth it 🤣🤣
Charlie is the scariest thing ever
Bros scarier that the LASSO challenge
True
@@pgfamilyfriendlyLegendary All Skulls On?
Bros scarier that the LASSO challenge
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I’ve been so excited for plagueseeker. I also love watching a ton of horror movies. My mom thought I was strange for watching them, but she sat down once with me and now we watch them together all the time.
It Follows is a must. Definitely watch it.
One of the few Blumhouse films to actually scare me I had a small list of Blumhouse films that scares me
Interesting, I found it to be super slow. Just shows you that lots of different voices can appeal to different people.
@@ModernMedusa that’s the best part of it follows it takes it’s time with it’s horror you don’t know what to expect in the film that’s what horror should be not just jumpscares force in
I recommend it follows for others to see truly I think this movie has a good example of how to build in scares without just forcing it in
That's just an interpretation, not official @user-bi5um2sf8o
@user-bi5um2sf8oit’s definitely an analogy to it, but it’s still legit one of the best horror movies with such an interesting premise.
My life would be complete with a Charlie horror movie tier list 😭 I need it
Charlie you HAVE to watch It Follows. Such an incredible movie.
I don’t get how Charlie can talk about how many horror movies he’s seen and then say he hasn’t seen movies like sinister or It Follows. It’s like saying “yeah I’ve eaten so much food, I’ve literally eaten the shit out of every toilet, so yeah, food sucks”
It seems like he avoids the good ones
Top 50? In the world? Charlie goin' crazy with the hyperbole
The stripper dollar air blast is the best thing I’ve heard in my ife😂🖤
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@@itz_me_peaceful_devil_21 but why you hating?
There’s been some decent ones I seen lately !! “ The Menu” and “Smile”
The menu was soooo good, the plot was so refreshing
Smile is my favorite horror movie
Haven't seen a horror movie and been scared since forever... can't even remember the last time a horror movie had me biting my nails, wetting the bed, and losing my edging streak
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It’s almost as if you got older?
have you seen Noroi?
pref watch it by yourself at 3 a.m.
Then watch Hereditary. It'll do the trick
@@kbcustoms3571watching hereditary in theaters was one of the best movie experiences I’ve ever had. You could just feel the air get sucked out of the room when that one thing happened and it was just so uncomfortable and unnerving the entire time after
when he said top 50 my spine tingled. truly terrifying.
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…because you know like most people that he definitely isn’t in the top 50?
@@yowatchie I was skeptical about that claim when he said it, but then when he said he hadn’t seen “It Follows”, I was like yeah… no. Whether or not someone likes It Follows, it was still a pretty popular film with lots of coverage. Hard to miss it when you apparently watch so many horror movies.
Jacob’s Ladder (the original, obviously) was the last movie that legitimately scared me multiple times.
Silent hill heavily inspired by that movie
I mention Jacobs Ladder to people as often as possible
The cabin in the woods was revolutionary in that it exposed the algorithm of horror movies
Still to this day one of my favorite movies. The good scares, comic relief, the clever call out of the horror movie tropes, the ending, all incredible
I studied film in college and it was kind of a well-known inside joke that horror films are among the easiest to write/film/ and produce, and tend to be the first projects that new directors try.
bad horror sure, but i'd argue a good horror is incredibly hard to make and with the extremes that people push in the genre, they don't all strike me as easy
@nathanr6381
budget and production yes, its very easy. I went to school for animation and they told us that as well.
Something cheep and easy to get your foot in the door. Remember, Jaws ruined a tourist industry for a whole summer and all they had was music and a shitty shark anamatronic that was broken.
Horror is the best to start because it's a lot less restrictive as others and is prone to be experimental by nature. So yeah. Rule of thumb is to start with horror. It's cheep, while being artsy, while not requiring specialized talents outside your own specially.
@@infiniteoctopaw idk, maybe im just concerend on semantics. I watch a lot of horror and there doesn't seem to be much 'easy' about it. I guess to start off your film career sure, and there are plenty of examples.. but i think of movies like hereditary where there has been effort to think of every single detail and especially when dealing with myths etc, to make sure it is all accurate and makes sense. I just find at least with the horror I watch, there's often rewatch value where each time you'll pick something new up.
Then there's the smaller low budget horrors with a load of gore like Jorge Buttgereit stuff. May seem easy on the surface but they usually can't just use CGI for everything so have to put in huge amounts of effort doing everything practical.
And then I guess a lesser point but good horror takes guts (literal sometimes). I've seen so many artsy, experimental, daring movies and most are horror, with the extreme nature of the genre I guess. It's I guess mental effort, putting pretty horrifying, experimental stuff out there hoping it aint gonna get destroyed by reviews or straight up censored or banned
@@nathanr6381 I didn't comment on bad horror vs good horror. It is simply the most straightforward genre you can make films for, so it is perceived as easier. Of course, along that spectrum you are going to get a wide range of quality, but my explanation was to illustrate why the bad ones are so common, not to discredit the genre as a whole.
@@nathanr6381Think of horror compared to other genres. Compare the most beloved horror movies, and compare them to the most beloved action or drama movies. There's an objective difference in the depth of story, filming techniques, budget needed, etc. I'm a horror fan. My entertainment is almost exclusively in the horror fan cliche handbook. But it is certainly the easiest to do, whether good or bad.
4:12 I don't know if this pun is intended, but it's the best thing I've heard all day
i’ve watched every horror movie on every streaming platform since 2020. the best horror movie i’ve seen lately was “a classic horror story” it’s an italian horror film on netflix it had perfect gore, perfect plot, amazing message as well. it was inspired by midsomer, a cabin in the woods, and texas chainsaw massacre and it perfectly encapsulates all three of those movies at the same time.
Have you watched Antichrist staring William Defoe
@@3WrldcamI have seen both. I could really have lived my whole life comfortably without Willem Dafoe's dick
@@3Wrldcam yes i have! it’s actually one of my favs from like the mid 2000s era
@@kaelynsuee That’s surprising to hear
Skinamarink was more an horror experience than an actual horror movie. I really like how grainy, unfocused, and shadowy all the scenes were. Even the audio was grainy and at times, dead silent. Ironically, the subtitles made it more scary imo. It really captures an unsettling mood really well. Unfortunately, that was all it. Just mood. There wasn't a narrative or even a linear plot. It was super unsatisfying to watch, because it had so much good buildup for an abrupt ending.
It’s an experimental film, and it did its job well. Many people hated it but it showed alot of promise, meaning we could get better movies of the same style in the future
Yeah the ending was just disappointing cause I was feeling the vibe
Martyrs is a movie you watch when you lose a bet, because it’s not a horror movie. It’s a movie that you try your hardest to forget, but never can.
But it is a horror movie lol. What you described is not a genre.
@@bobsandwich3431he’s exaggerating there lol, lol obviously it’s a horror movie because you’re watching women or men? Both? Getting physically and psychologically tortured, still don’t know what the movie is about but I know there’s skinning.
@@derpstick5467 Def watch Elvis the Alien's review of it. He explains everything that happens in it and even though you're not watching it and he's mostly cracking jokes, you still feel horrified by what happens in the movie. I don't think I could get through that kind of movie in one sitting
@@TheGoldenDunsparce lol honestly I don’t even want to watch a review of it, just give me a quick summary of it, like is it a revenge story? Do the people who get tortured deserve it? Is the ending just bleak or bittersweet?
@@derpstick5467just read the Wikipedia plot synopsis
The autopsy of Jane Doe is actually great. The plays your with anticipation and it makes it super unsettling. It also explains very little but give you lots of breadcrumbs. I’d recommend watching it again if you really did see it.
Couldn't agree more. I loved this movie and I watch a lot of horror movies but I really like the setting of this one. Also absolutely recommend checking out!
It needs a prequel or sequel!!
My partner had nightmares for a week after watching it. I really enjoy the movie
Was just lookin for new vid
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13:15 why is no one talking about this 😭😭😭 I can’t see a dollar bill the same again
Absolutely recommend "It Follows". Its an incredible film that I absolutely cherish. It's not perfect but man is it good. Then I also recommend watching "Resolution" and "The Endless" back to back.
Charles lives in Florida. He has irl experience on the scariest things mankind can conjure.
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On the topic of MARTYRS and it’s psychological horror, The Poughkeepsie Tapes is a very good disturbing/psychological horror. It’s been burned into my memory as a staple for horror ever since I watched it.
Signs and Dark Skies are all more scary than regular horror movies because they could be real.
Rooster Teeth’s Theater Mode really opened up my eyes to what B movies could be, especially horror films. There’s something so fun about those shoddily put together movies, at least when there’s a genuine effort to them
the way he feels abt martyrs is how i felt about Possum, me n my friends just sat there in complete silence during some scenes, the discomfort in the room was THICKK i wanted so bad to fast fwd it. but tbh great movie imo
It's just the endless same tropes that really gets to me every time I watch a horror movie. They become predictable.
That’s why Skinamarink, for its flaws, had me sitting bolt-upright in bed (I was watching this by myself at my apartment) with almost like an anxiousness buzzing through my nervous system at what would happen next because it was just so weird with such a creepy atmosphere
I think the bar for horror is constantly getting pushed. A movie makes it beyond and the expectation is pushed further again.
“The Strangers” was really scary for me, solely based off how it could happen to literally anyone. If I’m not mistaken, it’s based off a true story as well
The phrase “Because you were here” is pretty chilling as a tagline.
The true story that the film is based on, is the writer receiving a knock on his door late at night. Then no one was there. Based on a true story should be taken very loosely when watching film. Still, I agree I find The Strangers to be spooky. Especially if home invasion is something scary to you.
@@yungscoobert6279 I mean I just googled it and google said it’s based off the Keddie cabin murders soooooo🤷🏼♂️
Movie totally lost me when he popped his friend in the face. Man were those characters unbelievable.
The first one was ok but pretty boring and generic. The second one was a clown show
The real problem with modern horror is the rely on jump scares.
It’s the equivalent of being a comedian and tickling your audience to get a laugh.
Real horror is stuff like Black Mirror, Love death and robots or Twilight zone.
the problem with modern horror is no except Jordan Peele actually makes true horror films nowadays.
See, you’re confusing horror with terror. What you described is terror, like The Haunting.
The problem is they're made to print money. They're so cheap that like $40m is considered a hit for them, so they just get pumped out.
yeah. I used to be a fan of horror movies same with my friend, but at some point years ago we just never watched one ever again. Last one we ever saw was Get Out in the theatre, haven’t seen anything before that for a couple years and never again after. It’s kind of sad that what I consider my favourite horror movies, are video games lol, one of which relies on the jumpscares too but at least has an interesting story attached to it, and another of which isn’t even considered a horror game at all.
Or like omen it was like final destination ish wasn't all just endless jumpscares it's suspense and build up saved their company.
I think A24 is probably the only entertainment company that makes good horror movies nowadays
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Check out "Infinity Pool". Very A24 vibes but it's not from them. My favorite horror of last year.
They let their directors take risks, even if they don't always pay off.
RLJE is better and has been releasing movies since the 80s.
To be clear, A24 is primarily a distribution company. They have produced/financed some work, but a majority of the films in their catalog were written, filmed, and edited without their involvement. What they’ve done well is find and distribute films and market them, and themselves, really well with a consistent style, so you typically know what to expect from an “A24 film” as a result
On the movie Sinister, the movie overall is like a solid 8 in my books. It's a fairly compelling horror movie with a good, actually scary antagonist. I find the parts where the creepiness is at it's peak is during the tape scenes. There just some real sense of dread when watching them, not to mention they actually look a bit real in the way they're executed.
one of the best sound effects/music in horror. that shit they play whenver watching the films is soo good and id argue carries the weight of the movie on its shoulders
Lets not forget the ending 💀
@@bryanfernandez1136 True, true.
Exactly my thoughts, it has some dumb crap but overall a solid movie with the “home movies” being masterclasses in how to make horror scary and new.
The internet hyped that movie for me so much and when I finally got to watch it, it started strong but got weak as heck ; very cheesy and with visual effects that pulled me away rather than dragging me in.
In my video production class, there have been so many horror/thriller films made, with most of being not that great. I think the main draw for them is that they are pretty easy to make and it’s one of the easiest genres to get reactions from the audience (cheap jump scares), while in most other genres you need to put a lot more thought into the writing and cinematography in order to get genuine reactions and emotions. In one of my short films earlier this year, we included some elements of horror, but it wasn’t the main focus of the story and it had a bittersweet ending.
finally! someone who recognizes Martyrs and it being absolutely terrifying, it traumatized me for whole 2 weeks after i watched it, it is definitely the best horror movie ever made imo
_mother!_ is one of my favorite horror films of all time! I don’t think I’ve ever seen a horror movie that perfectly captures the feeling of anxiety for me.
I agree!
I mean it’s more of an psychological allegory then Horror movie
I've been a horror movie fan since the 80s, and I can say that right now is maybe the best time to be a horror fan that there's ever been. Like any other genre we get a lot of schlock thrown our way, that's true, but that's always been the case. If you watch a horror awards show or check a "best of the year" list, you can see that the cream of the crop just keeps getting better. Last year we had so many bangers. We had really hard-hitting, thoughtful elevated stuff like Talk To Me, When Evil Lurks, and Huesara but we also had really fun (but well-executed) stuff like M3gan, Scream VI, and Totally Killer (it's good!). And there's no one subgenre that's dominating the whole market, like in the 90s when everything was Scream clones or when everything was torture p*rn or when everything was found footage. We've got such a great variety right now of really top-tier stuff - possessions, hauntings, slashers, creature features, thrillers, comedies, and more. I just feel like we need to appreciate it while it's here before it all goes to shit again - after all, it won't be long until we're getting horror movies that are 100% AI-generated. Then we'll be nostalgic as hell for these times.
Yes KING
you have amazing taste. do you have a letterboxed or something I can follow?
Absolutely. I can't believe the comments in this section say horror is worse now. 2022 had an insane number of incredibly well made horror films. Never have I seen so many horror films crack the top ten lists of people for the year. Horror is fantastic right now better than it's ever been and much better than the last 2 decades. I mean shit the 3 most famous new directors ari aster, eggers, and peele have a filmography of mostly horror films so far.
@@flrdrnnr lol no but I'll let you know if I ever do, thank you!
Something I noticed in most horror movies is how unbelievably streched out they are. Even if they are 90 minutes or shorter, like 50-75% of their runtime is filled up by unneccessary character drama, chores, or just nothingness
You are watching the wrong horror.
The wailing is amazing too
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@@bigdadybojangls9219 Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
Watched that yesterday lol. Such an intense ride. Got it in 4k recently so had to rewatch it
Its more scary about how bad they are then the actual horror
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Not so fast, Charles! I had heard about Lets Be Evil exactly once, in my entire life, before hearing you talk about it!
What I love about Charlie is that he finds very specific passions and has ABSOLUTELY not shame about it. He then can talk about it for humorously and that's a great video every time
Hey! The Haunting of Sally Bacawnrench is a media marvel! ....that said, i fully agree. I remember leaving a horror film recently (cant really remember which one at this point) went in excited, but left with a slow depleting hype asking myself in the car "...did i actually like that?"
It Follows is one of my favorites, still think about it and it's also got a deeper meaning when you finally figure out what "it" really is.. They're finally making a sequel, can't wait!
Probably more old school here but my top three horror are Alien, Hellraiser and Event Horizon. The one movie that really got under my skin was Event Horizon.
Those are all great ones!
Hellraiser is so good. Still not seen event horizon though
How the hell have you not seen sinister at the time of this recording
It's really interesting you mentioned Sinister because I just found a DVD of it at Goodwill for three bucks. Definitely up there in terms of horror movies, if memory serves. It left enough of an impression for me to want to add it to my physical collection.
"Unseen... haven’t seen that one" goes hard
Martyrs and that piano wire and vomit feeding scenes in Audition are forever saved in my brain
fml that scene
Omg I hate you for reminding me about Audition but at the same time thank you. That movie was so f'ed up lol.
One of my favorite horror movies is “It follows” and the only reason I like it so much is because of the intense music they used for the scene where the grandma is chasing the mc in school