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There is a little problem with your video, the probabilities between ps 2 and HD are vastly different. So Different that for HD speedrunners use yojimbo for certain categories and they don´ t on ps 2, which makes the nemesis % run several hours longer on ps 2. This could also explain the discrepancies between FAQ´s on how it works and the math behind it.
Selphies "The End" is the same, no difference. Result wise. The enemy is dead for sure.Even Omega Weapon etc. Only Ultimecia with her 4 phase Battle is more or less immun, cause you need to do it 4 times in a row and thats not easy.
Their is alot of hidden factors that will determine if yujumbo will use its insta kill for excample running from battles and and not paying by yujimbo enugh and yunjumbo being dismissed or gets knocked out after summoned will aply a nagitive multiplyer
@@velvetbutterfly I know what you're saying. I play war of the visions and the prices are absurdly high. It's like 54 bucks just for one pull. I'm free to play because I refuse to pay such a ridiculous amount of money. I miss the square that made the 1-12 titles. But that was before dlc
It’s crazy how yojimbo can not like you and you give him enough Gil for a bottle of water and still decide “yeah fine I’ll kill the most powerful being in the world for you.
I think it works counter-intuitively and how Yojimbo is as a character. The way i see it is like this: He's potrayed as a soul of a warrior, and a master at his craft. The first sets of question upon recruiting him gives some clue. The last answer is a way to let him know that we appreciate his prowes enough that we'll only ask for his help for the hardest of foes and not trouble him with clearing up trash. The money component is also a part of this. He doesn't really care about how much it is; but people who misunderstood him will give him as much money as they could; but at the end of the day it's up to him (moody guy, motivation etc) to as how he choses to dispose of the foe. I think the mechanism is a fun way to take that aspect of him.
@@pinolskun8764 I think in this case it's really just overcomplexification, also the fact that you can just get the overdrive gauge and get a 6.25% chance of success regardless of the rest of the formula is kinda dumb, and also I don't get why they bother creating 6 different LV of Zanmato "resistance" if there is only 2 different possible outcomes, and honnestly they should have immune boss especially superbosses to Zanmato.
@@nesoukkefka1741 you said many true things but dont forget when this game came out originally, the things you say are logic now but maybe were less so then.
@@pinolskun8764 I would have agree with you, except one comment on this video pointed out they change Yojimbo Formula in these version compare to NTSC version, they actually did it better in the NTSC version, in the NTSC version Overdrive does NOT guaranteed a chance for Zanmato, it helps but you still need to pay a high amount money to have a chance at getting Zanmato, it's impossible to get Zanmato with only 1 gil in NTSC and compatibility is much more important to raise in NTSC than current version and that's how it should be, you shouldn't be able to just pay 1 gil and one shot the ultimate bosses without working for it. I don't get why they did it kinda right in previous version and did this for the latest versions.
@@nesoukkefka1741 i disagree with it not being right. Its a matter of player's choice. If a player decides to use zanmato, because he cant beat a boss, it is good that it isnt that hard to pull off. Look at it as a get-out-of-jail card, not as a balanced game mechanic. Your approaching it from the wrong prospective. If the intent was to have it being balanced, it wouldnt exist.
@@luckymouse1988 Cool. Who asked you for your irrelevant opinion? that's right, nobody. You should probably delete your cringe filled comment... nay go ahead and delete your whole account.
Can you imagine that after defeating dark anima with no sphere grid and no zanmato, you dumped all of your money to zanmato penance and yojimbo just said...no?
In this scenario I'd have to imagine Yojimbo's thought process is "I'm ending this now so I don't have to stick around you a second longer than I have too"
@@Darkstar..... lmaoooo, telling some guy that has beaten every dark aeon, nemesis, and penance legit that an adamantoise is already a one shot. The point is that he paid one gil. In order to get him to do that, you have to do a little bit of work with him.
@@fnlultm i did all that when the game was on ps2 when it came out. Trust me. I didnt use yojimbo. I didnt need to. I see him as a cop out. Anima is my favourite. I watched this video for nostalgia. I remade the entire sphere grid until it contained nothing less then max hp +300 max mp +40 and every stat sphere was replaced to +4 inluding luck and engineered the grid so every character reached 255 and no extra including luck which was a nightmare and 999 for mp and every other available slot was cleared for hp +300 giving yuna 76 000 hp on the standard sphere grid. I completed the game in its entirety before youtube existed before the internet had guides and before mobiles existed that could go online during dial up days. Id never say anything about the sinspawn found inside sin or the omega dungeons as being difficult in any way because they arent. I broke the game through my alterations to the sphere grid. The one time i had seymour join my party i realised he must have had an overdrive and it took a while but i got to see it. I bet thats common knowledge now but i loved that game so much you have no idea. So im gana say what ever i want to who ever i want.
You left out the fact that by choosing option 3 when hiring Yojimbo, then paying him 750k instead of 250k, he'll join you with higher compatibility and throw in 2 Teleport Spheres.
That said, unless you skip him on your way through the first time and come back when you have the airship, or you grind a ton, you will never have that kind of money to do that on the first trip through.
@@Amainville93 doesn't really take a ton of grinding if you know what you're doing. but yeah, most people definitely didn't have that much gil the first time around. That said, someone probably could gil farm to hit 9 digits of gil by then if they really tried. it's just difficult to do cause you easily need stuff that's near impossible to get at that point in the game.
you can grind the mobs right out side yojimbos cave where you pick up the rusty great sword to get tons of gil and it doesnt even take that long to do you just sell all the drops you get.@@Amainville93
I was on Mt. Gagazet and summoned Yojimbo. I forgot what I was fighting but once I summoned him, he automatically did Zanmato and I just sat there in surprise and was like "Well damn!"
@@jeffreyortiz6040 Unfortunately, it wasn't Seymour. But I did beat that prick easily either way. Maybe it was a yeti, can't remember. Another fun thing that happened was when I was in Bevelle and was fighting Seymour. He actually killed himself when he tried to heal himself 😆
@@jeffreyortiz6040 Good news, that happened to me. After coasting through the story up until then on my second playthrough, I remembered Seymour Flux stopping me dead on my unfinished first. So I grinded for hours… only for Yojimbo to Zabmato Seymour immediately. He then ALSO Zanmatod the final boss. Those were the only two times I summoned him. This was like 20 years ago and I still remember it.
@Jeffrey Ortiz I am laughing so hard right now. Flux was my worst enemy and kept me from getting to Zanarkand in my first ever play through. And it made me rage quit the game for a week.
It's pretty bonkers that an optional aeon most people probably threw aside when they realized how much stronger and easier to use Anima or Magus Sisters were has enough buried mechanics to fill a 50-minute video and almost none of this stuff is ever shown or explained to you in-game.
It's intentional too, Yojimbo is hidden away in fear of his power due to them knowing that if Yojimbo is used, Yunalesca, Sin and even Yu Yevon would not stand a chance.
i don't know how people missed this. i was 14 and had no internet and still managed to get every single aeon and unlock every single arena creation. my only missed things in teh game was never seeing penance because i couldn't fucking kill dark yojimbo. stupid prick opens up with zanmato on me and one shots me at least 1 in 5 times..... my life has been scarred for 20 god damned years.
@@phenel I killed dark yojimbo 5 times with strenght and luck (zanmato) but I wasn't aware of penance back then. When I realized about penance and meet him, just after dark yojimbo, I was thinking that dark yojimbo is harder cause savesphere or not you still have to get 5 wins in a row ( I get zanmato at least 2 times on 5, moreover 3 times out of 5 with so much concrete luck)
@@noctsickversus9632 man that sucks that you didn't know about penance. and that's awesome that you got dark yojimbo down. he would literally zanmato me off the bat at least once before leaving the cave it was infuriating. i tried auto life but he would just zanmato me again. he is truly the biggest asshole in my experience.
When I was doing the boss rush at Remiem temple; Yojimbo’s free move on the last three aeons (Anima, Yojimbo, and Magus Sisters) was a Zanmato; three consecutive insta kill moves on bosses for FREE! For the entirety of gameplay, Yojimbo never used Daigoro; most of the time it was a coin toss between zanmato and wakizashi with a pinch of Kozuka from time to time (4-5 times at most). It was epic.
Min/Max-ers: *Watch 49 minute video to understand the most effective way to trigger Zanmato* Me, as a true intellectual: Haha, gil counter goes *DRRRRRRRRRR*
I guess this is what happens when the two gurus of FF10, Pbirdman and dansg8, collide. Even the pre-existing knowledge is thrown for a small loop. Very intriguing video.
I thought his motivation was how strong his opponent is before this video. I got him to do it twice in a row against dark aeons with 100,001 paid both times. You cleared a lot of things up for me, thank you.
I love you man , never dissapoint with the quality of your videos. I'm a 7 year subscriber and I swear my love for the final fantasy franchise stays alive because of you.
As a programmer myself, i'm deeply pleased by the choices of powers of 2 and multiples of 4 the programmer that created the Yojimbo attacks routine made :D
always thought Yojimbo and Zanmato was cheap and yes the first time I ran into a dark aeon I used it. Interesting to see the mechanics behind it though. i always thought it would be something simple like times summoned and gil paid compared to gil you had with some RNG. Whoever designed this system was crazy
I've only used Zanmato intentionally to kill one boss in FFX and that was Dark Bahamut because I couldn't stand that fight. I fought and beat every Dark Aeon and Penance legit except for Dark Bahamut lol.
Ohhh oh my god this actually helped so much lmao. I'm not the type to really be into cheesing superbosses but I just really needed to get back into Besaid so I could progress to get Anima and Magus Sisters and Zanmato was the only really feasible way for me to do that at this point in the game
Usualy I let Yojimbo defeat the Dark Magus Sisters to gain one Ribbon and maybe even a break damage limite weapon for Kimahri or Lulu, cause I always fail to get their Celestial Weapons fully upgraded. When my gang has been through the entire Sphere Grid or close to, I like to fight Dark Yojimbo. If I stick to defeating him 3 times and then play Blitzball or use the teleporter, I can do it as many times as I want and it will, eventualy, give Ribbons for all. I think I once or twice have seen Yojimbo use Zanmato spontanously and he also did it a couple of times for a handful of Gils or so. Some of the times, when I defeat Dark Yojimbos, a non Overkill can grant max bonus like Ribbon and Break HP Limite on a 4 slot Armor. It's good to know there's always a chanse with Yojimbo. I always thought it was best to pay him, when he is cirkling his head. Like he was more motivated then, hahaha.
The Zanmato Level 4-6 chart was SO satisfying to look at because of how the numbers increased when you follow the colums diagonally from top right to bottom left. Also that 50% at 128 compatibility directly in the middle, that's the stuff. Okay, that's enough nerding about math for the day. Great video as always.
At one point I could just pay him 1000 gil and he used Zanmato everytime. Summoned him a lot and didnt let him get killed and boom. Makes the game way boring though.
I literally have not watched the video, but on ps4 remaster, zanmato can be save scummed. Just pay 1 gil every fight, and save after. When he uses zanmato you reload last save, go fight whoever, pay the same gil amount, and done. You can take all the chance out of zanmato this way. Pretty nice if you don't want to fight whoever
@@Atlas-oh9yx wouldn't know, but I don't see why not. Zanmato is seeded, so there is actually no luck in it at all. Based on your games seed is when you will get zanmato. So saving before the zanmato literally guarantees is on reload. At least that's how it is on ps4. I doubt they changed the base mechanics of the game for switch release.
@@GordKeen interesting I joked about killing penance with my cousin yesterday and I used yojimbo and it used zanmato for 518 Gil but the previous one I used 518 for did not basically I saved after he did the kunais and it still happened huge lol moment
According to the chart, with 0 compatibility, it takes only 512 gil for a 25% chance of Zanmato against Aeons & Pennance. It becomes 1 in 3 if it's the first time you ever use him. Just save spam.
WHY TF DO I HAVE TO IMAGINE THESE SCENARIOS WHEN YOU HAVE THE MF GAME RIGHT THERE!?? What is the point of this video if you're just gonna talk through it all?
The fact there is "Reasonable" control over it is so strange... especially when trying to do the equivalent of this in FF7 and failing would KILL YOUR ENTIRE PARTY.
Reminds me of when I unknowingly got Setzer's death slots in VI. I was so hyped seeing a new moved then it killed everything on screen, including my party :l
I was extremely underleveled by the Sin boss fight, and I really hated grinding. I ended up using zanmato to beat all bosses after the Sin boss fight. Jecht was the hardest because he had 2 phases, but I got it eventually
The battle itself is not that hard if you have a decent grid. If you want to farm. Yojimbo cave (only because is closest to farm Gils) and Omega ruins are the best places for basics. For the original game. Omega and completing the monster hunter sidequest hold the hardest bosses
@@fredyramirez3035 it took me 2 hours to beat sir jecht as a first timer on Xbox one X and I almost died so many Times and got hit by Overdrives a lot but too bad I was smart and felt decently leveled and had lots of HP.
Booted up my 15 year old save yesterday after buying the remastered version of FFX on my PS5 and porting over my save through PS Plus. Jumped into Monster Arena, summoned Yojimbo. Paid him 512, got Wakizashi (all). Paid 513, got the same again. Paid 600 and got Zanmato. Cheerio Nemesis.
There's like one little detail here that has me wondering if you actually tried to genuinely run any of these numbers. You say you're not for sure if putting in the max amount of gill would guarantee one but it's as simple as just putting in a cheat to give yourself infinite Gill and then trying. If it truly is a 90% chance because /10 then one out of 10 times you won't get it. However, you're saying you have no idea rather than just VERY simply trying 🤷
I have a question, everytime I've replayed this game. Each time i go to face dark bahamut Yojimbo always does a free Zanmatto. Like off of the initial summon, is that scripted or something? Because im on my 11th playthrough and I've quite literally never actually FOUGHT dark bahamut without seeing it happen. I know you said in the video that this doesnt happen so maybe its because its my PS2 copy? I've just never really questioned why it kept happening until i saw your video
And they said math wouldn't be useful in the world. Jokes aside, I really like this extremely deep information that I'm probably going to fail to use when I actually apply it to my game.
I see, so if I keep maxed relationship with Yojimbo, summon him full OD and got no free move, then pay 300k, I gonna have 64% of insta delete anything? Neat. Anyway, I've play this game since 2005. I thought executing Zanmato as something cool AF. I recently played the game again and decide to build my party toward executing this cool move. Apparently, it got quite large chance to use it on a nasty bosses. With it I killed many bosses that was bring me hard time two decade ago. Really satisfying.
I played this when it 1st came out i don't know if my game was bugged bat after a certain point i would only ever give him 1g and he would always use zanmato so i breezed through the back end of my 1st play through.
Can't wait to hear a breakdown on the Luck stat, cause after all these years the only thing I know about it is that it's Accuracy & Evasion 2: The Squeekquel.
Actually the funny thing is Luck is actually better than Accuracy in the post game, put it simply even if your accuracy is very low you'll always get at least 25% accuracy, that 25 is the added to your Luck and then you substract the ennemy's Luck. Also if ennemies has over 111 Evasion then your accuracy doesn't matter regardless of it's 0 or 255 it will make no differences. No ennemies has more than 130 Luck, in order to hit all ennemies you need at least 205 Luck if you reach this number then your accuracy doesn't matter and you will hit all ennemies regardless of accuracy, as an extra raising Luck 220 will guaranteed to hit all ennemies in the game even if you have the Blind statut, and 230 Luck will guaranteed Critical Hit on every ennemies in the game.
I enjoyed the video, and was able to focus on all of the "boring" math stuff the entire way through. Now I don't want to hear the word "Zanmato" again.
Me: I chose the 3rd option. Pay you well and often, and I'm 150 hours into this game. Can I get a Zanmato so we can wrap this up? My Yoji: Best I can do is Wakizashi
Says a lot about how shitty people can be about how others play video games that you felt the need to put a disclaimer in about how you dont "condone using zanmato to one shot bosses"
I have never really followed final fantasy speedruns, but resets are allowed in them? I thought it would be like any other game and deaths mean the runs over
I, myself find Odin's instant death more powerful than Yojimbo's. That's just me. You don't have to pay Odin either. I love Odin in FFIX, FFVII and FFVIII. Yojimbo is cool, don't get me wrong. I just prefer Odin much more.
Yojimbo has my favorite summon animation, I was glad I had the gil when I found him. Wish I would have known this all those years ago when I was playing.
When I played this game a couple pf decades ago, I would just pay him so the last three gilnumbers were zero. Killed most dark summons with this, cause I couldn't get the final weapons for tidus and yuna.
I always gave him the amount of money that would leave me with the most zeros, except ofc the highest value. For example: I have 3.456.789 Gil. So I will give him 456.789 Gil and am left with 3.000.000 Gil. That "strategy" did exceptionally well for me in both the original ps2 PAL version and the HD Remaster for PC.
OMG!!! I've leved up yojimbo's compatibility to 255 and then used grand summon to full his OD gauge. I beat dark anima on my first attemp using zanmato. Hope this happens again for penance and dark magus sisters. Thank for this guide!
I never knew about any of this when the ps3 version of ffx HD came out. I just got to Braska's final aeon phase 2, gave him all my gil and hoped for the best. And he used Zanmato. I legit cried when he did.
I'm gonna have to correct you a little even though it is incredibly rare I did get a free zanmato against dark valefor Granted I did use grand summon but he still used a free zanmato
I was dumbfounded when I learned the complexities of it...in my game I just waited for his overdrive to be full and pay him 1 Gil AND HE DID ZANMATO EVERY TIME (bar once)
So Basically the Overdrive Motivation is what make it so you have a chance to land Zanmato regardless of the rest, cause even if all the previous stuff amount to 0 that fix 20 from the Overdrive Motivation guaranteed at least 6,25% chance of getting Zanmato. I think to balance this out they should have made the ZL multiplier intervene after the added Overdrive Motivation, and they should have made the penalty on ZL more important like let say for instance ZL5 would multiply by 0.2 instead of 0.4 in your exemple and make Overdrive Motivation occur before the ZL multiplier that would give : Overdrive Motivation = 48 + 20 = 68 ZL Motivation = 68 * 0.2 = 14 0% chance to get Zanmato with 1024 gils, which I think considering you are facing a Superboss is fair you shouldn't get a One-Hit KO move for a mere 1024 gils. With these numbers and rework formula at 128 compatibility and Full Overdrive you would need at least 32760 gils which would then give : Gil Motivation = 56 56 + (128/10) = 68 68 + 20 = 88 88 x 0.2 = 17 For a 1,5625% to work on a Dark Aeon. For more exemple with max out compatibility and full overdrive you would need at very least 4096 gils for a 1.5625% of Zanmato (and for the LOL maxing Gil Motivation at 112 would result in a 23,4375% chance), which considering they are superbosses seems more fair to them. So if Pbirdman want to rework Zanmato here are my suggestions (if it's doable of course) XD.
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There is a little problem with your video, the probabilities between ps 2 and HD are vastly different. So Different that for HD speedrunners use yojimbo for certain categories and they don´ t on ps 2, which makes the nemesis % run several hours longer on ps 2. This could also explain the discrepancies between FAQ´s on how it works and the math behind it.
No burke. Thank YOU for making another ffx video.
@Harold Gael you are right, nobody gives a fuck about your malware , that will infect my computer
Selphies "The End" is the same, no difference. Result wise. The enemy is dead for sure.Even Omega Weapon etc.
Only Ultimecia with her 4 phase Battle is more or less immun, cause you need to do it 4 times in a row and thats not easy.
Their is alot of hidden factors that will determine if yujumbo will use its insta kill for excample running from battles and and not paying by yujimbo enugh and yunjumbo being dismissed or gets knocked out after summoned will aply a nagitive multiplyer
Yojimbo is pay to win but thank God it just uses in game currency that CANNOT be obtained by credit card
You say that now but Square makes their mobile ports worse somehow
Thanks for the idea... hHEhehheEH
Yet
Thank god you get max gil for free on the remaster
@@velvetbutterfly I know what you're saying. I play war of the visions and the prices are absurdly high. It's like 54 bucks just for one pull. I'm free to play because I refuse to pay such a ridiculous amount of money. I miss the square that made the 1-12 titles. But that was before dlc
It’s crazy how yojimbo can not like you and you give him enough Gil for a bottle of water and still decide “yeah fine I’ll kill the most powerful being in the world for you.
Hmm hes not greedy? :D
I think it works counter-intuitively and how Yojimbo is as a character. The way i see it is like this:
He's potrayed as a soul of a warrior, and a master at his craft. The first sets of question upon recruiting him gives some clue. The last answer is a way to let him know that we appreciate his prowes enough that we'll only ask for his help for the hardest of foes and not trouble him with clearing up trash. The money component is also a part of this. He doesn't really care about how much it is; but people who misunderstood him will give him as much money as they could; but at the end of the day it's up to him (moody guy, motivation etc) to as how he choses to dispose of the foe.
I think the mechanism is a fun way to take that aspect of him.
Yojimbo is a hero for fun.
he's probably like "alright fine if it'll make you stop buggin me"
Perhaps water to a thirsty man is no different to handing him diamonds.
The moment Yojimbo nods his head when you pay him, you know the fight is over.
I actually paid attention to him and realised it is gonna be a guaranteed zanmato if he does that
Yep. And if he shakes his head, guaranteed Diagoro attack
Ah yes money good money thank you if I finish this quick they will pay me again, evil laughter from yojimbo
@@MrSuper149 That's what OP was implying.
Head nod: zanmato
No reaction: Kozuka/Waskizashi
Hand gesture of disdain: Daigoro
**Throws gil in disdain** = Daigoro
"Zanmato explained"
me: "oeh, that should be a fun quick 5 minute video.
49 minutes.....the f
The designer who came up with that system is a madman...
True but it also shows an incredible attention to details which you find less and less these days
@@pinolskun8764 I think in this case it's really just overcomplexification, also the fact that you can just get the overdrive gauge and get a 6.25% chance of success regardless of the rest of the formula is kinda dumb, and also I don't get why they bother creating 6 different LV of Zanmato "resistance" if there is only 2 different possible outcomes, and honnestly they should have immune boss especially superbosses to Zanmato.
@@nesoukkefka1741 you said many true things but dont forget when this game came out originally, the things you say are logic now but maybe were less so then.
@@pinolskun8764 I would have agree with you, except one comment on this video pointed out they change Yojimbo Formula in these version compare to NTSC version, they actually did it better in the NTSC version, in the NTSC version Overdrive does NOT guaranteed a chance for Zanmato, it helps but you still need to pay a high amount money to have a chance at getting Zanmato, it's impossible to get Zanmato with only 1 gil in NTSC and compatibility is much more important to raise in NTSC than current version and that's how it should be, you shouldn't be able to just pay 1 gil and one shot the ultimate bosses without working for it. I don't get why they did it kinda right in previous version and did this for the latest versions.
@@nesoukkefka1741 i disagree with it not being right. Its a matter of player's choice. If a player decides to use zanmato, because he cant beat a boss, it is good that it isnt that hard to pull off. Look at it as a get-out-of-jail card, not as a balanced game mechanic. Your approaching it from the wrong prospective. If the intent was to have it being balanced, it wouldnt exist.
Me as a kid: pays Yojimbo 1 Gil expecting him to do daigoro
Yojimbo does Zanmato.
Me: oh shit
I paid him like 10,000 and he zamatoed a dark aeon
Could have made use of this 18 years ago, Yojimbo has all my gil now
GameFAQs would have had Yojimbo guides, I suppose.
@@luckymouse1988 Cool. Who asked you for your irrelevant opinion? that's right, nobody. You should probably delete your cringe filled comment... nay go ahead and delete your whole account.
Same. Worse is that he never did a Zanmato for me. What a gyp. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can you imagine that after defeating dark anima with no sphere grid and no zanmato, you dumped all of your money to zanmato penance and yojimbo just said...no?
😅😅😅
In this scenario I'd have to imagine Yojimbo's thought process is "I'm ending this now so I don't have to stick around you a second longer than I have too"
Id close app. Heartbeat.
"hmm, yes, doggo can take care of this for me"
There is something satisfying about watching him pay 1 gil and getting zanmato on an adamantoise
An adamantoise is a 1 shot enemy without yojimbo. You scrub.
@@Darkstar..... that’s the irony of the situation, and the premise behind the comment. You scrub.
The thing is, yato does the slashing cheaper. Only at 10 yen. And its consisntent
@@Darkstar..... lmaoooo, telling some guy that has beaten every dark aeon, nemesis, and penance legit that an adamantoise is already a one shot. The point is that he paid one gil. In order to get him to do that, you have to do a little bit of work with him.
@@fnlultm i did all that when the game was on ps2 when it came out. Trust me. I didnt use yojimbo. I didnt need to. I see him as a cop out. Anima is my favourite. I watched this video for nostalgia. I remade the entire sphere grid until it contained nothing less then max hp +300 max mp +40 and every stat sphere was replaced to +4 inluding luck and engineered the grid so every character reached 255 and no extra including luck which was a nightmare and 999 for mp and every other available slot was cleared for hp +300 giving yuna 76 000 hp on the standard sphere grid. I completed the game in its entirety before youtube existed before the internet had guides and before mobiles existed that could go online during dial up days. Id never say anything about the sinspawn found inside sin or the omega dungeons as being difficult in any way because they arent. I broke the game through my alterations to the sphere grid. The one time i had seymour join my party i realised he must have had an overdrive and it took a while but i got to see it. I bet thats common knowledge now but i loved that game so much you have no idea. So im gana say what ever i want to who ever i want.
I love how the explanation for this one hidden summon's single move is the length of an entire documentary. Love it. Thanks for the explanation!
It didn't need to be though. The dithering and labouring for no reason is real in this one
Yojimbo dies: annoyed
Yojimbo doesn't get paid: P I S S E D
So THIS is the reason Bevelle outlawed machina, ay? They were afraid of ADVANCED MATH.
You left out the fact that by choosing option 3 when hiring Yojimbo, then paying him 750k instead of 250k, he'll join you with higher compatibility and throw in 2 Teleport Spheres.
Waste of gil
That said, unless you skip him on your way through the first time and come back when you have the airship, or you grind a ton, you will never have that kind of money to do that on the first trip through.
@@Amainville93 doesn't really take a ton of grinding if you know what you're doing. but yeah, most people definitely didn't have that much gil the first time around.
That said, someone probably could gil farm to hit 9 digits of gil by then if they really tried. it's just difficult to do cause you easily need stuff that's near impossible to get at that point in the game.
you can grind the mobs right out side yojimbos cave where you pick up the rusty great sword to get tons of gil and it doesnt even take that long to do you just sell all the drops you get.@@Amainville93
I was on Mt. Gagazet and summoned Yojimbo. I forgot what I was fighting but once I summoned him, he automatically did Zanmato and I just sat there in surprise and was like "Well damn!"
Was it Seymour Flux? If so man that's luck i hate that fucking boss 🤣 be nice to know he got mato'd
@@jeffreyortiz6040 Unfortunately, it wasn't Seymour. But I did beat that prick easily either way. Maybe it was a yeti, can't remember. Another fun thing that happened was when I was in Bevelle and was fighting Seymour. He actually killed himself when he tried to heal himself 😆
@@jeffreyortiz6040 Good news, that happened to me. After coasting through the story up until then on my second playthrough, I remembered Seymour Flux stopping me dead on my unfinished first. So I grinded for hours… only for Yojimbo to Zabmato Seymour immediately. He then ALSO Zanmatod the final boss. Those were the only two times I summoned him. This was like 20 years ago and I still remember it.
@Jeffrey Ortiz I am laughing so hard right now. Flux was my worst enemy and kept me from getting to Zanarkand in my first ever play through. And it made me rage quit the game for a week.
I picked up all summoning 1st play through.
It's pretty bonkers that an optional aeon most people probably threw aside when they realized how much stronger and easier to use Anima or Magus Sisters were has enough buried mechanics to fill a 50-minute video and almost none of this stuff is ever shown or explained to you in-game.
It's intentional too, Yojimbo is hidden away in fear of his power due to them knowing that if Yojimbo is used, Yunalesca, Sin and even Yu Yevon would not stand a chance.
i don't know how people missed this. i was 14 and had no internet and still managed to get every single aeon and unlock every single arena creation. my only missed things in teh game was never seeing penance because i couldn't fucking kill dark yojimbo. stupid prick opens up with zanmato on me and one shots me at least 1 in 5 times..... my life has been scarred for 20 god damned years.
@@phenel might be because you’re lying and acting stupid
@@phenel I killed dark yojimbo 5 times with strenght and luck (zanmato) but I wasn't aware of penance back then. When I realized about penance and meet him, just after dark yojimbo, I was thinking that dark yojimbo is harder cause savesphere or not you still have to get 5 wins in a row ( I get zanmato at least 2 times on 5, moreover 3 times out of 5 with so much concrete luck)
@@noctsickversus9632 man that sucks that you didn't know about penance. and that's awesome that you got dark yojimbo down.
he would literally zanmato me off the bat at least once before leaving the cave it was infuriating. i tried auto life but he would just zanmato me again. he is truly the biggest asshole in my experience.
When I was doing the boss rush at Remiem temple; Yojimbo’s free move on the last three aeons (Anima, Yojimbo, and Magus Sisters) was a Zanmato; three consecutive insta kill moves on bosses for FREE! For the entirety of gameplay, Yojimbo never used Daigoro; most of the time it was a coin toss between zanmato and wakizashi with a pinch of Kozuka from time to time (4-5 times at most). It was epic.
Min/Max-ers: *Watch 49 minute video to understand the most effective way to trigger Zanmato*
Me, as a true intellectual: Haha, gil counter goes *DRRRRRRRRRR*
I guess this is what happens when the two gurus of FF10, Pbirdman and dansg8, collide. Even the pre-existing knowledge is thrown for a small loop. Very intriguing video.
All I know about Yojimbo is... "Gibe mone plaez"
A friend of mine got zanmato on the final boss during his first play through. He didn't understand how Yojimbo worked.
He was so confused hahaha
I got zanmato on my 1st playthrough of the ps3 version on the final boss! I was in TEARS!
The final boss is weaker than braska's final eon
I see dansg08 and FFX, I click and like faster than I can read the rest of the title.
I can't believe that FFX is P2W
Holy shit, is this why Zanmato almost never happened in my games? I had no idea those answers mattered, I probably picked #1!
I thought his motivation was how strong his opponent is before this video. I got him to do it twice in a row against dark aeons with 100,001 paid both times. You cleared a lot of things up for me, thank you.
Wow, I think my Yojimbo just really liked me then, he’d Zanmato for 1000 Gil on a pretty regular basis.
People who don’t play video games: “Video games aren’t that deep!”
Dansg08 & Pbirdman: “Hold our drinks”
I love you man , never dissapoint with the quality of your videos. I'm a 7 year subscriber and I swear my love for the final fantasy franchise stays alive because of you.
I LOVE FFX AND I LOVE THIS CHANNEL
I love how both people are still making videos about this game. And that it takes nearly an hour to explain how just one attack works lmao.
As a programmer myself, i'm deeply pleased by the choices of powers of 2 and multiples of 4 the programmer that created the Yojimbo attacks routine made :D
I can't get over yojimbo having a Motivation stat.
DMC has broken me.
Vergil: „Now i feel motivated, RIP“
Imagine how dominate Yojimbo would be with Vergil’s motivation 😂
He is the storm that is approaching
zanmato is just judgement cut end lmao
always thought Yojimbo and Zanmato was cheap and yes the first time I ran into a dark aeon I used it. Interesting to see the mechanics behind it though. i always thought it would be something simple like times summoned and gil paid compared to gil you had with some RNG. Whoever designed this system was crazy
I've only used Zanmato intentionally to kill one boss in FFX and that was Dark Bahamut because I couldn't stand that fight. I fought and beat every Dark Aeon and Penance legit except for Dark Bahamut lol.
That's because getting the 28k HP it takes to survive his attack is an absolute, ABSOLUTE, mick take!
Ohhh oh my god this actually helped so much lmao. I'm not the type to really be into cheesing superbosses but I just really needed to get back into Besaid so I could progress to get Anima and Magus Sisters and Zanmato was the only really feasible way for me to do that at this point in the game
Usualy I let Yojimbo defeat the Dark Magus Sisters to gain one Ribbon and maybe even a break damage limite weapon for Kimahri or Lulu, cause I always fail to get their Celestial Weapons fully upgraded.
When my gang has been through the entire Sphere Grid or close to, I like to fight Dark Yojimbo. If I stick to defeating him 3 times and then play Blitzball or use the teleporter, I can do it as many times as I want and it will, eventualy, give Ribbons for all.
I think I once or twice have seen Yojimbo use Zanmato spontanously and he also did it a couple of times for a handful of Gils or so. Some of the times, when I defeat Dark Yojimbos, a non Overkill can grant max bonus like Ribbon and Break HP Limite on a 4 slot Armor.
It's good to know there's always a chanse with Yojimbo.
I always thought it was best to pay him, when he is cirkling his head. Like he was more motivated then, hahaha.
Wait a min i didnt sign up for a math class i just wanna play FFX...😆
The Zanmato Level 4-6 chart was SO satisfying to look at because of how the numbers increased when you follow the colums diagonally from top right to bottom left. Also that 50% at 128 compatibility directly in the middle, that's the stuff.
Okay, that's enough nerding about math for the day.
Great video as always.
I love a good chart as well. There's something to be said about the art of data and the ways it can be represented.
Holy Yevon, I didn't know the zanmato mechanic was THIS complex and deep!
At one point I could just pay him 1000 gil and he used Zanmato everytime. Summoned him a lot and didnt let him get killed and boom. Makes the game way boring though.
i love turn based RPG .
very relaxing and unstressing ~
Huh? Maybe that’s what it is with me and then that music! Yeah that must be it!
I literally have not watched the video, but on ps4 remaster, zanmato can be save scummed. Just pay 1 gil every fight, and save after. When he uses zanmato you reload last save, go fight whoever, pay the same gil amount, and done. You can take all the chance out of zanmato this way. Pretty nice if you don't want to fight whoever
Does this work in FFx remastered on switch
@@Atlas-oh9yx wouldn't know, but I don't see why not. Zanmato is seeded, so there is actually no luck in it at all. Based on your games seed is when you will get zanmato. So saving before the zanmato literally guarantees is on reload. At least that's how it is on ps4. I doubt they changed the base mechanics of the game for switch release.
@@GordKeen interesting I joked about killing penance with my cousin yesterday and I used yojimbo and it used zanmato for 518 Gil but the previous one I used 518 for did not basically I saved after he did the kunais and it still happened huge lol moment
According to the chart, with 0 compatibility, it takes only 512 gil for a 25% chance of Zanmato against Aeons & Pennance. It becomes 1 in 3 if it's the first time you ever use him.
Just save spam.
Doesn't Gilgamesh in ff8 have a instant kill move as well? I think it's called zanketsun or something like that.
Zantetsuken ^_^
@@radeesfury827 And Sora can use this move
WHY TF DO I HAVE TO IMAGINE THESE SCENARIOS WHEN YOU HAVE THE MF GAME RIGHT THERE!??
What is the point of this video if you're just gonna talk through it all?
The fact there is "Reasonable" control over it is so strange... especially when trying to do the equivalent of this in FF7 and failing would KILL YOUR ENTIRE PARTY.
Reminds me of when I unknowingly got Setzer's death slots in VI. I was so hyped seeing a new moved then it killed everything on screen, including my party :l
i mean, if youre trying to zanmato a boss and miss, your whole party just dies anyways.
yo i love this guy saved my ass so many times accidently encountered the boss in omega ruins was so under leveled and got lucky zanmato
I encountered ixion in the X remake. Yojimbo summoned himself and just nailed Ixion on both encounters. It blew my mind
I was extremely underleveled by the Sin boss fight, and I really hated grinding. I ended up using zanmato to beat all bosses after the Sin boss fight. Jecht was the hardest because he had 2 phases, but I got it eventually
The battle itself is not that hard if you have a decent grid.
If you want to farm. Yojimbo cave (only because is closest to farm Gils) and Omega ruins are the best places for basics.
For the original game. Omega and completing the monster hunter sidequest hold the hardest bosses
@@fredyramirez3035 it took me 2 hours to beat sir jecht as a first timer on Xbox one X and I almost died so many Times and got hit by Overdrives a lot but too bad I was smart and felt decently leveled and had lots of HP.
Booted up my 15 year old save yesterday after buying the remastered version of FFX on my PS5 and porting over my save through PS Plus. Jumped into Monster Arena, summoned Yojimbo. Paid him 512, got Wakizashi (all). Paid 513, got the same again. Paid 600 and got Zanmato. Cheerio Nemesis.
Im glad people are still making content over this game. This was my favorite FF game. Its story really resonated with me.
There's like one little detail here that has me wondering if you actually tried to genuinely run any of these numbers. You say you're not for sure if putting in the max amount of gill would guarantee one but it's as simple as just putting in a cheat to give yourself infinite Gill and then trying. If it truly is a 90% chance because /10 then one out of 10 times you won't get it. However, you're saying you have no idea rather than just VERY simply trying 🤷
I have a question, everytime I've replayed this game. Each time i go to face dark bahamut Yojimbo always does a free Zanmatto. Like off of the initial summon, is that scripted or something? Because im on my 11th playthrough and I've quite literally never actually FOUGHT dark bahamut without seeing it happen. I know you said in the video that this doesnt happen so maybe its because its my PS2 copy? I've just never really questioned why it kept happening until i saw your video
And they said math wouldn't be useful in the world.
Jokes aside, I really like this extremely deep information that I'm probably going to fail to use when I actually apply it to my game.
Did anyone ask yourself, what Yojimbo exactly do with this much gil that he already got by the end of the day? XD
Have you ever spammed Omega with quick hit?
Ultima is a better name
"But that's before factoring in the zanmato resistance value of the enemy..." the people who programmed this game are maniacs and I love them for it
you're an absolute legend
I see, so if I keep maxed relationship with Yojimbo, summon him full OD and got no free move, then pay 300k, I gonna have 64% of insta delete anything?
Neat.
Anyway, I've play this game since 2005. I thought executing Zanmato as something cool AF. I recently played the game again and decide to build my party toward executing this cool move. Apparently, it got quite large chance to use it on a nasty bosses.
With it I killed many bosses that was bring me hard time two decade ago. Really satisfying.
Me: just pay him more money to do better moves right?
UA-cam: 49 minute video explaining it
I played this when it 1st came out i don't know if my game was bugged bat after a certain point i would only ever give him 1g and he would always use zanmato so i breezed through the back end of my 1st play through.
Bro a near hour analysis video on Zanmato in X. It's sad how excited I was to watch this
Love for these great games is NEVER sad.
RIP to my attempted 100% save where I found out my choice actually mattered in the Yojimbo dialogue after the fact
Can't wait to hear a breakdown on the Luck stat, cause after all these years the only thing I know about it is that it's Accuracy & Evasion 2: The Squeekquel.
Actually the funny thing is Luck is actually better than Accuracy in the post game, put it simply even if your accuracy is very low you'll always get at least 25% accuracy, that 25 is the added to your Luck and then you substract the ennemy's Luck. Also if ennemies has over 111 Evasion then your accuracy doesn't matter regardless of it's 0 or 255 it will make no differences.
No ennemies has more than 130 Luck, in order to hit all ennemies you need at least 205 Luck if you reach this number then your accuracy doesn't matter and you will hit all ennemies regardless of accuracy, as an extra raising Luck 220 will guaranteed to hit all ennemies in the game even if you have the Blind statut, and 230 Luck will guaranteed Critical Hit on every ennemies in the game.
Wow! Thank you for all your work on this!!!
these in-depth value videos are really interesting to me, great video!
Imagine giving him all of your precious gil, at once, only for him to use Daigoro. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This game was an incredible Experience to me but i Will never play It again 😂
I enjoyed the video, and was able to focus on all of the "boring" math stuff the entire way through. Now I don't want to hear the word "Zanmato" again.
I still want to know what Dansg08's deadliest move in history is!
Pissing off Yojimbo
Does the free move count towards compatibility training?
Me: I chose the 3rd option. Pay you well and often, and I'm 150 hours into this game. Can I get a Zanmato so we can wrap this up?
My Yoji: Best I can do is Wakizashi
FFX’s “WIN” Button.
Says a lot about how shitty people can be about how others play video games that you felt the need to put a disclaimer in about how you dont "condone using zanmato to one shot bosses"
I hate when I'm deep in a dark aeon fight and I bring him out just just to shield my party so I pay him 1 Gil and he uses it.
yojimbo literally can solo every ff universe😂
I have never really followed final fantasy speedruns, but resets are allowed in them? I thought it would be like any other game and deaths mean the runs over
I just kill Seymour ( third boss) with this. 😆 Only one strike. And spend 501 Gil
I like how you always credit people every time. Also amazing guide also.
I had to use Zanmato to kill Dark Bahamut and get to Tidus's celestial weapon item that I forgot. That was kind of a mean place to put that jerk.
I, myself find Odin's instant death more powerful than Yojimbo's. That's just me. You don't have to pay Odin either. I love Odin in FFIX, FFVII and FFVIII. Yojimbo is cool, don't get me wrong. I just prefer Odin much more.
One more category of Zanmato user: the player who already beat all the toughest baddies without it, and want to do it again in one hit.
Yojimbo has my favorite summon animation, I was glad I had the gil when I found him. Wish I would have known this all those years ago when I was playing.
Complete cap. Deadliest move in FF is level divisable by 3 holy in FFT
I just always just give him 300 an I get zanmoto a lot of the time!!
rly if u dont cheap him early on, paying 5k against a dark aeon might accidentally kill an dark aeon.
When I played this game a couple pf decades ago, I would just pay him so the last three gilnumbers were zero. Killed most dark summons with this, cause I couldn't get the final weapons for tidus and yuna.
I always gave him the amount of money that would leave me with the most zeros, except ofc the highest value.
For example: I have 3.456.789 Gil. So I will give him 456.789 Gil and am left with 3.000.000 Gil.
That "strategy" did exceptionally well for me in both the original ps2 PAL version and the HD Remaster for PC.
I'm more of a fan of win by any means. If something is broken abuse it!
OMG!!! I've leved up yojimbo's compatibility to 255 and then used grand summon to full his OD gauge. I beat dark anima on my first attemp using zanmato. Hope this happens again for penance and dark magus sisters. Thank for this guide!
This guy is not a Aeon! He's a fucking mercenary!
I wasn't aware it was this in depth, and I'm an avid fan of FFX.
just hearing you say "beating dark yojimbo 5x in a row "just makes me hide my ff10 away so i wont look at it xD
It`s the deadliest move in the entire FF Series.
Thanks Berk. I was thinking of playing ff10 again and your videos will be a huge help.
I never knew about any of this when the ps3 version of ffx HD came out. I just got to Braska's final aeon phase 2, gave him all my gil and hoped for the best. And he used Zanmato. I legit cried when he did.
Pay 2 win character in a normal game to win anything with gil 😂
I'm gonna have to correct you a little even though it is incredibly rare I did get a free zanmato against dark valefor
Granted I did use grand summon but he still used a free zanmato
I was dumbfounded when I learned the complexities of it...in my game I just waited for his overdrive to be full and pay him 1 Gil AND HE DID ZANMATO EVERY TIME (bar once)
Honestly I just wished I could ask the designer what he was thinkung
So Basically the Overdrive Motivation is what make it so you have a chance to land Zanmato regardless of the rest, cause even if all the previous stuff amount to 0 that fix 20 from the Overdrive Motivation guaranteed at least 6,25% chance of getting Zanmato.
I think to balance this out they should have made the ZL multiplier intervene after the added Overdrive Motivation, and they should have made the penalty on ZL more important like let say for instance ZL5 would multiply by 0.2 instead of 0.4 in your exemple and make Overdrive Motivation occur before the ZL multiplier that would give :
Overdrive Motivation = 48 + 20 = 68
ZL Motivation = 68 * 0.2 = 14
0% chance to get Zanmato with 1024 gils, which I think considering you are facing a Superboss is fair you shouldn't get a One-Hit KO move for a mere 1024 gils. With these numbers and rework formula at 128 compatibility and Full Overdrive you would need at least 32760 gils which would then give :
Gil Motivation = 56
56 + (128/10) = 68
68 + 20 = 88
88 x 0.2 = 17
For a 1,5625% to work on a Dark Aeon.
For more exemple with max out compatibility and full overdrive you would need at very least 4096 gils for a 1.5625% of Zanmato (and for the LOL maxing Gil Motivation at 112 would result in a 23,4375% chance), which considering they are superbosses seems more fair to them.
So if Pbirdman want to rework Zanmato here are my suggestions (if it's doable of course) XD.