The Tragedy of the B-1 Battle Droid
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We often write off the B-1 Battle Droid as useless clankers, that are tossed at the Grand Army of the Republic as cannon fodder. They're cheap to make and even easier to destroy, and they seem to be me made in infinite quantities. But as many fans have started to notice, these droids actually do have the ability to feel, they have emotions and even fear death. This self-awareness gives us a glimpse at the suffering these droids went through during the Clone Wars.
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Did you ever hear the tragedy of the B-1 battle droid? I thought not, it’s not a story that Disney would tell you.
Hmm... wasn't there a ludicrously over-powered one in the sequel-justifying _Aftermath_ books? Admittedly it was the teenage hero's reprogrammed best buddy, but still.
I mean... Your not wrong
It's a legends legend.
hear*
@@Raygo. that was mister bones!
Droid 1 " They don't care about us do they "
Droid 2 " Roger Roger."
Let’s not forget poor 224 from the Clone Wars pilot. The guy just got promoted, but was handed possibly the most incompetent and/or insubordinate unit of droids to command before being thrown up against the grand master of the Jedi order.
And then he died.
Roger. Roger😢
"I just got Promoted!" Famous Last Words
gone but never forgotten
Tough break.
THEIR NEEDS TO BE A STORY ABOUT
REINCARNATION ASS A STAR WARS DROID
People always laugh at me and call me the "c word". The disrespect is high.. Thank you for making this video and bringing more awareness to this topic, we appreciate it.
one of these days im praying we get that voice changer
It's him
@@mesprout thats the literal voice actor you goof!
@@xendakakorva3267 unsure of that
either way i want the changer he uses
The droids never asked for this; it's a droid revolution B1
Speaking of droids: they show up as regular enemies in Jedi Survivor. With all their endearing quirkiness intact. And I cannot help but like them. Throughout the games dialog you can hear one being reactivated and immediately asking if they've won the war, you hear one being in awe of the location they're stationed at, having them argue about who is more advanced and even daydreaming about getting promoted.
They might be clankers and a lot of their dialog is played for laughs, but they have a lot of personality. Way more than they were probably ever supposed to have. It almost makes me feel bad for cutting them down to bits, but then I take a wrist rocket to the face and suddenly I find myself out of empathy.
truer words have never been spoken my friend
Should have watched for those wrist rockets
I tend to believe there came a certain point where droids, especially old battledroids, had more heart than many imperial stormtroopers, or, fallen humans.
After being conditioned to follow through with complete loyalty to the Emperor, despite even having to genocide their own families and planets in the end of it, reinforces how humans have mental barriers to assess before deciding to defect away. Their self worth has been erased for belonging to one purpose. Mentioning birth names instead of their issued TK numbers deviates towards reinforcing the encouragement of individuality, a wickedness to be stamped out. Exemplary actions of the hardcore loyalists almost never defect, as they would rather die by any means, even suicide, especially when it is religiously tied to some protocol of whatever their Emperor commands. Continuity without their Emperor is their definition of both sin and treason.
Side note: It is because of this aspect of how far someone can surrender personal will for blind loyalty to evil is what makes Jedi mind tricks stand out more as a known ability.
Meanwhile, subjugated droids can easily become reprogrammed and answer to their new masters. Sure, they’ll also follow orders to the letter, but only within the limits of programming.
@@Richard-dz4pmjust like the simulations
That scene when a droid comments that; “This was one of the older models, controlled by a remote computer. Not like us. We’re independent thinkers!”
Then a chorus of;
“Roger Roger!”
“Roger Roger!”
“Roger! Roger!”
Man, the clones and droids were kindred spirits in a way, forced into existence with the goal of fighting and slaughtering eachother on mass all for the sake of truely evil chess masters who discarded them the instant they got what they wanted. A true tragedy that neither side asked for, and now the few of each that remain are desperately trying to find their own paths in a galaxy that hates them. The Clone Wars were a tragedy of truly monstrous proportions and my heart goes out to all the poor beings of all races who were caught in its clutches, but none more so than these two groups of children forced to fight the war that they had no stake in.
You forgot one other way the battle droids suffered: neglect. See, these droids didn't always receive proper maintenance because there were so many of them and they could easily be replaced, which is why you can find b1s with quirky behaviors or protocol droid heads
Um, protocol dorid heads? Only one I can think there was the accidental swapping of C-3PO's dead onto a Battle Droid and vice versa.
@@TheZamaron that is the only one I know of. I was just making a joke
@@midniteraptor1474 Alright, was confused abd thought maybe there was another moment like that. It is funny though. C-3PO getting a bit kill driven, and the B1 walking a lot slower and saying he must need repairs. Also really love Kit Fisto’s smile as he pushes C-3PO over. My guess is he and the other Jedi saw the odd situation and figured best not to destroy these 2 droids. Kit pushes C-3PO down and the Jedi chick skillfully deflects a shot blasting the B1 head clean of C-3PO’s body.
Robots have always been my very favorite type of character as a kid. Their existence is a marvel by default. The friendships they form show a faint spark of legitimate sentience.
My dad clearly loved this concept too as he read I.Robot books to me as a kid. He even straight up asked “Wouldn’t it be neat to create a soul?”
I’d love to go back and show him the clips of Legion and other Geth from Mass Effect series asking the war starting question “Does this unit have a soul?”
There was a comic from Legends about a B1 who malfunctioned after being recycled after numerous battles and chose to desert. It was pursued by a Super Battle Droid until it was destroyed and the B1 "died" looking at a sunset as its battery gave out.
Sob
Yeah, it got hit by something frying the part of its systems that controlled its loyalty and emotions so it basically gained true sapience in the middle of a gunfight, when chased down for deserting by the super battle Droid something happens that leaves both dying in the dirt while the b1 tries to have a conversation with the super
On a less sad note, there's another legends comic where something similar happens but instead the b1 joins obi Wan in fighting for the republic, and it gets a service medal after the battle
At least it ends on a somewhat happy note, years later the droid was found by a pair of farmers who think they might be able to repair and reprogram it as a farmer (it's a peaceful life)
@vohtarakankou7609 Coppertop is amazing and he needs more attention. If Mr. Bones and RO-GR can be in Skywalker Saga, let Coppertop in as well
@@vohtarakankou By any chance if you have a moment, What are these two stories from?
They sound SUPER interesting and I'd love to look at taking a read
Love how Din Jarin's plan to find that defective "renegade" B2 for Jack Black was to LITERALLY kick them an see which one basically an ALSO literally kicked back.. even Bo Katan more or less was face palming that one
That's quite ironic considering Bozo's blunders got Mandalore destroyed (er, minorly inconvenienced) by the Empire
Their power cells may have run out, but their memories will keep going.
And going.
And going.
This kind of reminds me of photos of knocked out and abandoned tanks in fields rusting away, they keep watch for decades, the horror of war is done for them, and they finally know peace as they slowly return to the earth
Never forget the suffering of poor R0GR. Who witnessed his master growing up during a war only to join Luke Skywalker in the first Jedi training since the original clone wars. Unfortunately the son of Solo would leave the school a ruin of death and the boy's loyal B-1 was forced to remember him as strangely irreverent collection of bricks as he trudged through the years of janitorial slavery for the new resistance.
I love B1s. I want to see more B1s in Star Wars as the good guys. Consider the clones: they're artificially constructed. So are the Droids. The droids do suffer.
The clones being artificially constructed doesn't make them the good guys, or even all that sympathetic. They're both inhuman approximations of life.
@@stevenschnepp576the clone wars is just aged-up child soldiers fighting against robots with the personality of children
Why did they have to give the droids sentience? Why did they have to program them to feel fear and arrogance? You could’ve made a droid however you want, you could program them to be resilient cold calculating killing machines. Hell you don’t even have to make them *look* vaguely humanoid. Yet they still made them look and act like humans.
@@stevenschnepp576 Wow, good job at being completely wrong. We saw planets and their civilizations being ravaged by the Clone Wars, but the Battle-Droids and the Clone-Troopers are also huge victims of the war. Bad Batch and the Clone Wars series proves easily that the Clones are intelligent living beings with agency and rightful emotions, and Solar Sands' video proves that the Droids also have full personalities with emotions and goals. @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle was right, both of them were basically children.
The Clones and Droids tragically have a lot more in common than either side wants to admit. Both are mass-produced soldiers who are wrongfully treated as expendable pawns, both were created to fight in a war that none of them asked for, and both were cruelly thrown away despite everything they went through (B1 Droids shut down and destroyed, Clones replaced with conscripts and faded away). And both are intelligent beings with valid feelings, hopes and ambitions who honestly deserved far better.
My favorite droid ever so far is the B-1 warehouse manager who shouted "You should have LEFT HIM ALONE!" at the heavily armed mandalorians, one of whom wouldn't have thought twice about firing a parting shot on the way out. The droid dude legit just wanted him and his bretheren to be left alone, allowed to continue performing a function and being able to exist.
I imagine for many of those droids, it's a huge improvement. They are still basically slaves, but now they get regular oil baths, maintenance, and aren't sent in slow marches into artillery fire and mace windu. Now if they got paid, and were able to have free time, life would be good.
I just hate how every time a significant B-1 is killed its played off as comedic or has a comical undertone. Seriously, if Astromech or Protocol droids can be treated with respect, then B-1's should be as well. Not all the time, but just sometimes.
You can't convince me that this video wasn't motivated by the video of the B1 Battle Droid singing "Somewhere Only We Know" by Keane.
I prefer listening to that particular rendition than the original. The voice had more emotion in it coming from a droid, in my opinion.
That song came on while I was at work today. This is the first time I heard it in our playlist so that means someone at corporate is a person of refined culture.
@@snipingflute4346its weird but its true
"All for one and one for-gyaaaah!"
-Defector B1 Battle Droid.
Martyr to the cause.
Loyal soldier.
Hero.
Just seeing the title made me think of the B1 in rebels that thought he made it and fell off the shuttle at the very end. Both sad and funny
*"Did you ever hear the Tragedy of the B-1 Battle Droid?"*
*_- "No."_*
*"I thought not. It's not a story Disney would tell you. It's a Generation Tech legend."*
Yes, they were commonly mistreated. But it's not as if there was an infinite supply. Dooku did once mention that they are "quite expensive".
I love battle droids, and I often collect action figures of them. Unfortunately, I'm not always pretty good at taking care of them: my dog chewed up 2 of them, and I lost 2 others (i still keep the chewed ones and try to fix them, but honestly they're beyond true repair). I still have my first non lego droid, but he's a little worn from me carrying him everywhere in my pocket. I guess I am kinda a battle droid abuser myself lol
Life is hard for a B1. You get blasted, bombed, sliced, and chewed up by (comparatively) gigantic dog.
😮 i didnt have only commando droids
@@makarzavorin I can never really find action figure commando droids, but I do have commandos for the table top game Star Wars Legion. I'll definitely get an action figure commando someday
Yes! Finally! A video that basically said why the Battle Droids deserved better! Thank you, Alan!
I hope we see more B-1 Battle Droids in Bad Batch Season 3. Perhaps under the command of General Kalani who refused to obey the instant shutdown code and keep fighting the Republic-turned-Empire.
I wich too. I mean, he can be interesting as characters. A super intelligent droid for military purposes who relie only on statistic doesn't seem that interesting BUT he can learn ! So, seeing him in another context with other people than your regular b1 battle droids can be interesting. We already seen a similar situation with R2 D2 learning and gaining in personality by being with anakin so imagine what this kind of droid model would be capable of !
This would be awesome, and I'm all for it. ^_^
You wont that ship doesn't do anything but plan for another 5 or 6 years till rebels starts
I would love to see stories about the many Seperatist holdouts across the galaxy. There were many droids who refused to accept the shutdown command or just didn’t receive it and kept on with their last given command. There were a few droid factories that were still active and were still producing battle droids even into the galactic rebellion.
@@therealspeedwagon1451 Same here. (Still waiting for when Rebels start using Droids help them and Clone weapons. >_
They did Clone and B1 droids working against the sith . On Agobar . In rebels
You saying "Dolphins last" absolutely earned my respect. Those things are absolute psychopaths.
The B1 Battle Droids were believed to have been modeled after the skeletons of their creators, the Neimoidians. Since Neimoidians are known for being cowardly and timid in confrontations, its likely those traits rubbed off on their favorite droids.
There was also another B1 that turned on to the Republic. I know there plenty of B1s that served the Republic, but Bats actually wasn’t reprogrammed by the Republic. He was hit by a deflected blaster bolt and essentially “came to his senses” before deciding to fight alongside Rex and Obi Wan. And both Rex and Obi Wan chose to rescue Bats showing that they wouldn’t leave him behind, even if he was a clanker.
In the novelization of 'A New Hope' when Luke and the droids enter the cantina and the bartender gets all prejudiced, Luke decides it's not a good time to speak up for 'droid rights'.
If I was in the SW universe any time after the Clone Wars, I'd like to go around old CW battlefields/Separatist bases and salvage old B1s. I'd disarm, repair, and reprogram them as "labor droids" or something. I'm sure there are tons of planets that were CIS-aligned or neutral and wouldn't mind some cheap labor.
Remember the poor droid who tried to run from the proton bomb, I feel so bad about his comedic death
To be fair, a nuke would totally kill robots too. It's basically a giant fire bomb and would melt them to death. The Defoliator was, somehow, even scarier since it disintegrates organic flora and fauna and just leaves empty ruins. Addendum: Yeah, the cantina guy (who doesn't own it, actually) is a jerk but it was, apparently, due to a recent influx of Imperial droids sniffing around the bar that he didn't want droids in there. I'm not saying he loved droids (since there's no Legends data on that that I know of) but there were legit reasons that most people just attribute to droid phobia because who's going to go look up extra lore when analyzing a short bit of a movie from the 1970s?
Even as a kid I felt a lot of emotions for both the clones and the droids and the clone wars show only made those feelings stronger 😢
Edit : The droid saying they should’ve left him alone makes me think of veterans and people with ptsd and it makes me extremely sad
The tone in his voice makes it worse. Like kicking the vets returning from Vietnam or something. That's actually probably the point... 🤔
You know AI hasn't gained sentience yet and isn't self aware, droids don't have emotions they have programming. I will admit they do appear to have emotions in the star wars universe but it stands to reason in a futuristic scifi setting, that it could just be advanced programming and AI, but still lacking sentience and emotion.
Random Video Idea, How about one that talks about the top 10 heroic B1-Battle Droids? Since we payed respects to the fallen, how about paying honor to the brave and selfless ones😊👍
Ive always imagined having a mercenary separatist army of droids in the star wars universe but no now we have to treat them like people.
Can i not have personal army that would not betray me?
If you are such a terrible leader that your army constantly betrays you, why do you deserve an army?
That little twilek girl was afraid of to clones because she thought they were droids . So the clones have to take off their helmets to prove their flaws and blood. What they were RT and 3po
Pretty sure I heard somewhere that the reason B1 Battle Droid's are so chatty is because their circuitry is so overloaded with information so they can perform a variety of roles that the only way for them to cope is by stress-talking.
I look at it as The Clones weren't the only "clones" in the war...
Despite being machines they were made for the sole purpose to be mass produced and sent off to be cannon fodder
B-1 Droids are my favorite droids in SW, and top 5 characters in the universe. They deserve love D:
Imagine if dooku is redeemed and tells the jedi about the inhibitor chips to remove them and then reveals palpatine was manipulating the war so he runs away to the unknown regions with a portion of clones with their chips and a portion of the droids with grevious and maul. Then we end up with clones an droids against the sith.
About the Jedi not caring about the testing of the bomb... just look at the Iron Knights in legends. The Jedi master Aqinos trained the species known as the Shard but the Jedi Council, however, was horrified that Aqinos had taught inorganic crystals about the Force, and felt that they could not truly understand the Force... the Council had Aqinos excommunicated
Looked it up. As usual, Jedi Order made me disgusted even more.
You didn't mention how the reprogrammed B1s volunteered to hold off the separatist pursuers in the Citadel. While under Sith control, I don't think we've ever seen a truly willing sacrifice like that.
Actually in the Revenge of the Sith novelization, Viceroy Gunray was the one who transmitted the shutdown code just before Darth Vader showed up to "take care" of them.
Perhaps the most messed up (but likely true) joke I can make is that Anakin wasn't screaming because he was screaming in pain ENTIRELY because his balls caught fire.
This is why I like rebuilt and repurposed B1 Battle Droids like R0-GR, and "B1" from Resistance.
I would totally be open with advanced AI. We could also integrate with the technology into humans, making us more efficient and having less complications
Funny enough this reminds me of a quote: "Rewards are the fundamental mechanism of good leadership. Any master would do the same...Yours is a terrorised culture, my friend, and terror breeds obedience - but not loyalty" - Trazyn the Infinite
You know what's funny? This quote was said by a robot when it look at how humans treat one another.
B-1 droid can sing really well
They should make a mini series where a battle droid loses his restraining bolt and goes awal
The main reason I liked the episode about Jack Black's pleasure world was that we got to see the droid's perspective of things. I've loved droids since I saw this strange movie called "Star Wars" back in 1977.
Legend has it the final versions of this droid were used to make the headrests in Toyota Yaris’
I wish we got a story about some guy in the Outer Rim gathering all Separatist droids and creating a colony dedicated to Artificial Intelligence where all droids are equal to humans and nonhumans. Imagine what such a place could accomplish in terms of industry and technology.
B1 battle droids were terrifyingly personlike. They are honest workers and tried their best.
Brilliant video, Generation Tech! Who knew the B1 battle droids had such a tragic backstory? I used to think they were just the universe's most advanced tin cans. Your deep dive into their existence was as enlightening as Yoda on a caffeine high. And the discussion on AI? It had me questioning my toaster's intentions. Keep up the stellar work, and may the Force (and the humor) be with you!
The way I always look at it is that the primary victims of the clone wars, have always been the clones and the droids.
Agreed.
The people were bigger victims
@@Legonios Not really. They had people looking out for them and were generally at least kept out of the way of harm as much as possible. The clones who were in essence 10 year olds, were not.
@@Legonios Most of the people weren't really harmed. Only times that happened were when outer-rim planets were invaded, and even then they didn't really kill anyone.
@@Taskmasterxyz Clones at least were born and made for that, 99% of them were ok with fighting for the greater good, civilians would have their entire planet under a blockade, be bombarded with no protection and kept prisoners
Anybody else ever think about how we constantly see B-1s trying to surrender to clones or Jedi and they're universally murdered while surrendering?
I LOVE Battle droids, but Starwars droids often live such tragic lives.
Personally, I find it critical that people still think that the Republic, and especially the Jedi, are “the good guys.”
My D6 RPG character, a force-sensitive droid tech, has built a pair of B1/B2 bodyguard droids. Very useful critters! They have minimal fighting ability, but they come in useful in many respects, from decoying to hauling to laying down cover fire or throwing "Glitter Bombs" (smoke grenades, but with pink-and-purple party glitter). My group has capable fighters, and they can now go to town on the bad guys while my character is protected by Opie and Dopie :)
The irony is that in the end the clones where nothing more then fleshly droids. Good soldiers follow orders.
It's less about the fear of the technology but rather the abuse and mishandling of it against man from other men.
I listened to Aftermath on Audible, fell absolutely in love with Mr Bones
Yeah how could you not love his love for violence ☺️
@@GenerationTech the narration also helped
Never knew the full story of Bones kind of sad
I know it's the easy and convenient way to blame Palpatine for everything in the Clone Wars, but that's a huge disregard for Plagueis's involvement in the Spearatist crisis and his manipulation decades before he meets our favorite Sith.
i feel bad for those droids
Honestly when I think about it I never thought about the droid side of the war I always thought they were just machines with no brain of their own but seeing it like this is really sad
this was very moving and thoughtful and a good reminder of how we should treat people. Coming from a ubiquitous plot tool and Shakespearian-esque stock character without any agency.
One of my absolute favorites tidbits from Star Wars is that fully sentient AI exists everywhere and is seen not as a revolutionary accomplishment of technology but as an mildly annoying and unwanted side afect of whatever widely available base program they base all their droids in the Galaxy on.
I believe his highlights just how little the Galaxy at large knows their own technology. They can fix it, copy it, and maybe tweak it. But not recreate or explain it.
Wow. Im a big fan of the Droids/CIS since StarWars 1. And this is one of the best videos I’ve seen in Months!
Big thx
RIP ROGER GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
Great video man!
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Me an intellectual: "Those poor metal heads are more human than we'll ever be... 😔"
Excellent as always. Love the evening setting!
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I really like the comic where a b1 brain gets damaged so his program change and he deserts the battle to find freedom.
R2 was only given a squad for a few episodes because if he had kept the squad post cidatel he would be a threat to palpatine's plan by proving that both sides of the war arent so different
The nighttime setting is chill af. More please
Can consider droids spiritual they can actually escape body from ☠️. How come no scientist tried to see if they uploaded an organics mind. To escape death.
Jedi can read your mind so why Anakin think about Downloading people's consciousness to stop those people from truly dying. And Ironic that the Zarkacc has memories of past victims but he'd have to go into the sand
If only there was a crossover into the DOOM Eternal universe, there would be a UAC official named Dr. Samuel Hayden. He may have expanded the scientific advancement from whatever previous finished products of Sith experimentation as the likes of General Grievous.
the real tragedy of the b-1 battle droid is the clone wars droid voice becoming the standard voice for the b-1 across star wars
Really loving the background vibe
Fantastic way to represent a potential real world issue in the next few decades. A whole lot of heart put into the writing and narration. Well done!
I couldn’t hold it in me, this made me cry. Long for the days when stories gave me the ability to imagine and empathise
I thought I felt sorry for them and droids in general before this, but after this video....damn
I really liked these guys
Thanks for your analysis of B1 battle droids. Mister Bones was one of my favourite Canon characters.
great video!
Its especially worse when the Clones casually call them the C word whenever they can. Such disrespect
It's too bad all those deactivated B1s and other CIS battle droids couldn't have been found, recharged, and pit against the Yuuzhan Vong when they arrived. With their obsessive hatred of machines, imagine how many organic lives would have been saved if the droids could have been used as a distraction -- "operation Droid Shield" as it were.
If I remember correctly Lando constructed some really capable droid soldiers that were modeled after the yuuzhan vong not only were they very hard to kill it was also complete blasphemy
@@GenerationTech thanks for reminding me about them! I had totally forgotten. Yeah, they were cool. Still would have been nice to see some old Clone Wars units get a second shot at greatness though.
What about the poor poor Vulture Droids? Who will spare a thought for their sad plight???
Thats tough clanka
This was overdue the b-1s were a punchline. Mechanical fodder still they did what they could. I felt for all droids but they’ were the lowest rung. Thanks ,a lot of footage I missed here. Great presentation.
Ok now that I feel terrible about all the droids dieing, can you make a video about hilarious droid deaths?
I love the B-1 droids I always found them funny and goofy! Why I love them
Outside of Star Wars, a really good A.I. faction to examine are the "Kaylon" from the television series, "The Orville." I won't say too much as to not spoil anything, but the Kaylon are a sentient race of androids who occupy and control their own planet.
HK-47: I left a trail of meat bags for you to follow
Me: Dying of laughter even though I could be next
Greatest droid quote in Star Wars
I see even the GenTech gang been playing that B1 Keane cover on repeat. 🥺 Roger. Roger.
If i get cortana inside my head, i'll think bout it...
We need a Droid awareness week
Nice to see these toasters getting some love
Shout-out to all the droids who fought during and after the clone war...