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My dad told me that, while he was in the military, one of the most important members of his group was the one who always brought spices with him and knew how to cook.
@@GenerationTech sadly, no, it was just a ship made of concrete that delivered delicious frozen treats. But the Marines on board, those, are the real weapons that you shouldn't f with.
If memory serves me correctly there was a Japanese commander who despaired when he learned of the existence of American ice cream ships, since your average Japanese serviceman would get little more than a couple handfuls of rice and dried fish for their daily rations. They had no hope of competing with an enemy supply supply chain so extensive that it could regularly feed its soldiers luxury food like ice cream.
@@sentrysapper45 I think so??? Not exactly sure, but wouldn't surprise me lmfao Like what the hell would you do after seeing the insane supply chain an enemy faction has? I'd sure as hell would try to think of a way to just find a means of keeping my guys alive and if it means surrendering to live another day (if it isn't the Russians) I'd go for it if it was like the USA that offered it. There is no shame or dishonor in surrendering to survive.
I remember in Jedi Fallen Order, one of the random bits of dialogue Stormtroopers can have while you're exploring has one of them blame their infamously bad aim on the rations.
@@genericuser984In that case their insides really were being chewed on by Ewoks. If Order 66 was enough to nearly give Yoda a heart attack, what would someone being butchered do? Does Yoda even have a heart?
If you want to see a telescoped course in bargaining and haggling, watch a group of soldiers in the field when ration packs (like MRE's) are passed out. If a soldier gets stuck with an unappetizing main course but a sought-after dessert item, the entire group will converge on him, offering a better entree in return for his dessert, along with various other side items like cookies, slices of ration bread (MRE bread was surprisingly good), and so on. If all went well, everyone in the unit would come away with something he liked to eat.
In Burma during WW2 the British troops would trade their dried fish to the Gurkhas (who regarded it as a delicacy) in return for their chapatis. It was a win-win!
Grogu's species literally eats whatever it can get its' hands on. Yoda does this as well. These aliens can gobble up anything, and enjoy it. Yoda lived, for decades, alone on Dagobah. What exactly do you think was in those soups and broths that he fed to Luke, when Luke was training with Yoda? Hint: It sure as hell was NOT prime rib...
I worked as a civilian contractor for a state air guard unit for 7 years. It was a stateside base with what you called Garrison cuisine. These folks ate well, basically civilian food. No restaurant I ever worked in had more polite customers, but these folks Were under military discipline, and had to behave as such.
The US military endeavors to have the best food it can provide. I wouldn't say that US base and field kitchen food is the best out there, but a lot goes into the budget compared to other militaries to ensure that the food is at least OK to good.
We dont have to behave a certain way. We have integrity and honor that was instilled in us since boot camp or our parents. Thats why us service members active or retired are polite(for the most part).
As a 5 year army vet...there's much truth to this in the real world...in my final assignment before getting out of the military the food we received was such garbage i was insulted as a human that a couple occasions i refused to eat.
Yeah, the defac messed up my stomach so much I couldn't eat there anymore. I straight up got sep rats because I was medically incapable of consuming the defac's rations. I wasn't even deployed at the time.
I had only made military service in France Navy in Fusiliers marins but ... the NATO approved RCIR (ration de combat individuelle réchauffable) - Combat Ration Individual Reheatable - is pretty good it's 1500g (3.3 lbs), 294L x 149W x 63H (11.6″ x 5.9″ x 2.5″) cardboard box in plastic wrap for 24 hours... It has a good quality control: The choice of products depends 70% on quality, and 30% on price. The quality is judged by a jury of 8 to 15 soldiers who test the menus blind.
Not like I'm medically eligible to serve, but it makes me wonder. I have fodmap issues and a food allergy- I would get sick from some rations and straight up not be safe to eat others. How would they handle that?
They have improved quite a bit but some of those meals really are inedible. If you're lucky you can trade with a buddy who freakishly likes it but we used to just dump in Tabasco to hide the flavor. Unfortunately the new MRE's no longer have that life line 😢
Food is fuel for the body. If you are fighting non-stop for a day or 7, you are going to need to eat and eat well. Having the rations even taste even somewhat good can be a real boost to morale. I know that the US Army does a huge focus on their field kitchens being able to put out food that is simple and tasty that will feed a person that has just fought through hell. The cooks at a field kitchen should get a smile from the soldier when they get their tray, even if everything else has has gone wrong that day.
@@KnightsWithoutATableLMAOOO cooks have a horrible reputation. the bottom of the barrel ends up as cooks. i’ve met one that was actually a cool guy. most are the shittiest of shitbags.
In Empire Strikes Back Luke had a ration that looked suspiciously like a pepperoni sausage. To quote Yoda's reaction to trying it "How do you get so big, eating food of this kind?"
Well, I was U.S. Army, infantry and an NCO from 1986 to 1994 and we used to call our MRE (Meal, Ready to Eat), the Morale Reducing Element... Some of these offerings really brought out some of the most visceral, ugly responses from soldiers as the tastes could go from average (beef and gravy), to surprisingly good (dehydrated peaches or the fruit cup were excellent), to the awful like the scrambled eggs... jokingly, I recall that we would make up different menu options. Like MRE Menu No. 14: Beer and Cigarettes. Ah, those were the days. As I was an Anti-Armor Specialist and usually was attached to a HMMWV, we would carry some extra canned goods to add a little spice to life. I used to also carry a cartoon of cigarettes. Not to smoke, but it was like currency and good for trading, especially with those creatures that inhabited supply depots.
@@twistedyogert what you really mean probably constipation.. MREs anywhere almost always emphasized on proteins, vitamins, nutrients less fiber and less carbo which in turn lead to constipation but YMMV...
A quote that has stuck with me: “Good military leaders talk about tactics. Great military leaders talk about logistics.” Battles are won or lost by your ability to supply and feed your forces.
Yeah, like how war happen in history. The one who can maintain their logistic supply properly is the one who will won the war. Yeah, good tactic can make you a win a couple of battle, but with working logistic its mean you can give your army more chance to stay fighting even after lose some battle.
Which is why it makes me facepalm every time some idiots call ex-Stormtrooper Finn (from the SW sequels) a "janitor", when Finn was a trained ground trooper who worked in Logistics. An army without food, equipment, medicines, and yes, latrines and toilet paper, can't function.
Lets not forget during WW2, the US Navy had literal freezer ships that were used to haul ice cream along for the troops on the front lines. This tidbit of intelligence struck a major blow to enemy morale, particularly for the Japanese I believe whose troops were all having to survive on standard field rations without any of the luxury foods of home
There is nothing wrong with good MREs. Loved it when I got Corned Beef Hash or Beef and Noodles. The dried "Desert" bar was great to munch on and could be broken up as snacks when it had no water.
A lot of times i preferred my MRE's to field chow especially the breakfasts. Eggs came in two forms, chalk or slightly thick soup. That said, there definitely are a few stinkers in those MRE boxes. My least favorite of all time was Tuna noodle casserole. For those thinking about trying an MRE, avoid the breakfast MRE's, avoid trendy items like hamburgers or burritos, and remember that the veggie meals almost always have the best snacks. Anything and rice is almost always good, if it is usually a batch made item like chili Mac it'll probably be good. Above all else, don't eat the crackers dry, it's a safety hazard.
My dad was a director of us Army mobile food service and housing r&d in the 90s/00s. Their number one concern was how to get soldiers to eat all the food. An army that chooses not to finish the ration is one not fighting the best the next day. They didn't always succeed (I remember some 140f certified chocolate samples), but they were trying hard. You can thank them for the tiny ass Tabasco bottles :D
I have to say this. I'm glad this channel finds things to talk about in the Star Wars universe without always focusing on how Star Wars is "ruined" every other video. Giving criticism when it's due and moving on to the things that fans do love. Kudos.
I remembered when I was watching Tasting History about bread pudding, it turned out the hospital foods during the American Civil War tasted a lot better than the hospital foods in nowadays. Now, imagine a bunch of Imperial officers and Stormtroopers who get to taste the hospital foods that turned out to be delicious and willingly injured themselves on the front line just so they can come back and eat foods that are not rations. I'm making this point because the foods serving for the troops on the fronts and the ones who are being hospitalized will be different, right? After all, during the American Civil War, making coffees out of potatoes is an ideal choice only because they tasted like coffees but not because they are actual coffees.
Hospital rations were better only ifthe hospitals were far behind the front lines. Mobile frontline MASH units didnt have that luxury. But you want to get injured or sick soldiers to get better, thus the better rations. While armies in the field historically often plundered the countryside for additional fresh food, stealing animals or extorting supplies from the population. But soldiers who injure themselves voluntarily to be relieved of duty will be either court-martialed or (in brutal regimes) executed without bothering with a court first.
When I was in the service we always joked that M.R.E. stood for Meals Rarely Eaten or there were three lies 1: It was a meal, 2: It was ready, 3: You could actually eat it. We always joked with the Civilians " Don't worry, If you get hungry enough they taste pretty good."
Having had times where i'd go 2 weeks with American MREs (and having tried a few other militaries field rations) even good field rations don't compare to bad garrison food. a good spice selection brought along can help but you're still dealing with the same limited rotation of premade foods. also keep in mind most field rations are also being made with the mind set of being quick to consume and easily transported so that soldiers are both able to carry a larger supply easily and spend less time in a more vulnerable state while eatting.
@@eldorados_lost_searcher The tabasco is still in rotation! Though it was so rare I question mentioning it. I bought 2 dozen MREs and 2 had it in place of instant coffee or drink mix
Don’t forget the “Donut Dollies” during WW1 and onward through Viet Nam who provided donuts and coffee to the front lines. Those ladies deserve mention.
Logistics is I'd argue perhaps the most complicated part of running a military, which also makes it one of the most interesting parts. To have war heroes on the battlefield, you must first have the unsung heroes in the Logistics office making sure everyone is properly supplied and fed.
This video brings back some memories of my time in the U.S. Navy. I never saw war or a conflict of any kind. I was on an aircraft carrier, U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71, and we had large stores of food and supplies. Two mess halls for the enlisted, large kitchens. We also carried resupplies for the other ships in our task force. I never had to eat field rations because we took our kitchen with us wherever we may go. We also had options for food 24/7 as the ship was active every minute of the day and night.
My daughter is on the Abraham Lincoln. She says the food 'isn't that great'. My dad was a POW Guard in Korea. He said the food was nearly inedible, and the C rations were worse. He said the POW's ate better than he did.
@@PhantomQueenOne I remember watching the keel being laid out for the Abraham Lincoln in Newport News. My memories of chow are 35 years out of date. Maybe it was better back then. I don't know.
Nice episode! When I was a WWII reenactor, I supplied repop edible K-rats for my unit with everything but the cigs Ruined a couple printers forcing cardboard through them but it worked
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One of the details I liked from the Republic Commando books series was the inclusion of ration cubes by the clones and how they preferred eating anything else. I remember at least a few clones would hunt and eat different types of vermin just so they didn't have eat ration cubes again.
Meanwhile in the Astra Militarum: "Here, take this ration made with beef, vegetables, deceased imperial citizens and other ingredients from suspicious sources"
When I was in the Army my unit had a MKT or mobile kitchen that came with our battery in the field/deployment. We got a hot breakfast and dinner. We had MREs for lunch. The food from the MKT wasn't the best but it was good to get a hot meal. The only thing was you had to perform security during your meal because it would be a time for the enemy to attack. Half on security and half eating. The taste of your food depended on the cooks that got supplied to your unit. Most cooks hate going to the field. Especially with a firing battery. Because we never stayed in one place. They had to take their MKT down every time we moved sites.
Active USMC cook here, We also serve breakfast and dinner but we usually don't use MKT. Instead all we needed was a TRHS and either a humvee, JLTV, or MTVR to the field.
@@GenerationTech You don't want to eat MRE's that have been left out in the sun, trust me. I shudder at the fact that you CAN do that with Imp rations.
2:25 these are Field Rations, NOT garrison rations. There are different kinds of field rations. These are called "Hot Rats". They are cooked in the field and delivered via your friendly acquisitions specialist. To give an example of the logistics involved, each of those foods has a different "turn around time"; i.e. how long before we take it back to the cooks because it is no longer safe to eat. Yet somehow, it always ends up mixed with rice and left over night at the TOC... that is the breakfast of Heroes. Now start factoring in the logistics of getting those foods to the front lines, and you can see how fresh food can be difficult to receive, let alone arrive to the trooper in a tasty way. An Army marches on its stomach. You can send a trooper in without ammo, but only if you feed him first.
Ain't gonna lie, when we got to the sponsor I was hoping it'd be one of those meal delivery services. "Stormtroopers had trouble getting fresh food on the front lines of crushing the Rebellion. Maybe if they had FACTOR they would've eaten better and crushed the uprisings."
Ive made videos exploring MREs and rations from militaries around the world and humanitarian aids. Yes, I am interested in this kind of stuff haha great video.
You're right. Logistics is boring, but I heard from a book in theBelgariad series: Any fool can raise an army, but you will run into problems around suppertime.
You forgot the imperial student rations: cheap ramen noodles from a galaxy far far away and canned Ewok meat. I demand more imperial credits! I am so over canned Ewok meat! MRE's with Ewok meat are also known as "Meal Rejected by the Enemy".
Very interesting about Star Wars logistics. I loved the BBC tv series 'Bullets boots and bandages' by Military Historian Saul David. Really good history of how armies were fed in the field from Napoleonic period to the present day.
The M&M's were created to withstand the high tropical temperatures. On Okinawa and Iwo Jima, the phrase was 'melts in your mouth, not in the sand.' This would eventually evolve into the famous slogan, 'melts in your mouth, not in your hand.'
Something about hardtack, it was commonly broken and soaked in soup. And as someone who actually likes hardtack and pemmican you can mix both of them with potatoes and water to make a wonderful stew.
I always thought, that Galactic Empire are using some kind of bacterial-photosynthesis process to create some organic mass and then process this organic mass into food rations. In the world of giant city-size spaceships, this is much more logical, than to process a real meat and plants into rations.
The quote: "an army marches on its stomach" is never more true after you have starved for 3 days in a trench line. So food is very much a must no matter what franchise or reality you are in if you want your troops to do anything.
When I was in the army ( in real life ) the field rations were designed for maximum calorific value, high nutritional value, low weight, very long shelf life, and very low taste. It is common in most militaries to only care about size, weight, and usefulness. Palatability is not really considered.
Bwtraying Banthas to eat them is wrong, but that doesn't stop the backwards Mandalorian canon Tuskens from doing it, so I can see Imperials chowing down on them too.
M&Ms were a rip-off of a British confectionery known as Smarties. The "inventor" of M&Ms encountered the Smarties while fighting in the Spanish Civil War alongside British volunteers.
This is one reason wehy Sloan made a good admirial, while she was guarding count vidian she learned logistics and how important they are to opperations
Is there any chance American Ben can do a cameo? You two were a dynamic duo. The Eminem and Dr. Dre of Star Wars. Keep up the good work! For the Republic!
I think having more droids as part of the crew would help. The droids can do the more basic tasks while the organic beings can do the more complex ones somewhat like what the CIS did.
As far as the Civil War rations goes, the marching rations were most often salt pork, hardtack, and coffee. The full ration includes stuff like beans, rice, candles, soap, and other relatively shelf stable items. It was common practice in the 18th & 19th century for forts in North America to maintain a garden. Some times they might even have a few pigs and one or two cows.
"You wanna get a bite after our shift?" "Sure, I could go for a Turbo Dog." "I heard they make those out of skrats." "That's just a rumor." - Two stormtroopers
There is actually a middle ground that is a lot more common.... There are tactical kitchens that do deploy with units to provide At least one, maybe 2, hot meals a day. While the other is your combat ration. Any position you can have any semi permanent infrastructure built around will have a mess hall.... It will also provide portable rations, Hot meals out to outer deployed semifixed positions. It takes very bare bones facilities (often either at the beginning or the end of an operation) logistical isolation, or extended tactical patrols to reduce you to 3 meals a day of MREs for an extended block of time.
How do you feed your army? Rebellion: We feed them diverse rations grown throughout the outer rim. Empire: we feed them blocks of slop made from devastating planetary ecosystems. Droid Army: Ha, our army doesn't need to eat! Rakatans: ;)
Explains why the Empire chose Endor. Succulent Ewok meat. It also explains the animosity the Ewoks had for the Empire. The eaters became the eatees. ETs...heyooo, I'll be here all night!
No matter how bad stormtrooper rations are, it could never be as horrible as the old chicken ala king MRE. I'm pretty sure that was what evil tastes like.
During Star Wars A New Hope when Luke and the others were being pursued by the Stormtroopers on the Deathstar. Did the Stormtroopers missed on perhaps because Darth Vader ordered them? Or was it the Force protecting them because of destiny?
Fun fact: Nowadays, Pall Mall cigarettes are higher quality and more expensive than Lucky Strike FILTERED cigarettes. Very rarely you can find somewhere that still sells Lucky Strike non-filter cigarettes, which are higher quality and more expensive than the filtered kind. Pretty strange.
As a retired Navy cook, I can tell everyone that one people on Submarines get the best food in the Military, two MRE's are delicious; especially the vegan burger, the spicy penie pasta, and spaghetti and meatballs, and three going on deployments when you're on a Navy ship you get interesting foods from all over the world.
@@funveeable I had MREs in the Navy because I worked in the field during field exercises, before we had our kitchens set up. I also was going to go do an IA in Iraq and Kuwait; so we ate them as part of our training.
fun fact about the wwi supply chain.... ANZACS only ever got australian beef when they took turkish trenches. because the turks had our beef. while anzacs were limited to UK castoffs.
On a side note, especially in the US Navy, good food was provided as a way of reducing the stress of personnel aboard. Especially because the Navy had a limited tolerance of smoking and (like any first rate navy in history) they had a zero tolerance on substance use. Hot, well prepared meals keeps sailors in good health and able bodied. It is a boon for not just morale but also general health and fitness, especially among people who need to work heavy machinery in confined spaces at all times, or must keep their attention during long hours of watch. And, as mentioned before, good food keeping stress levels low also keeps the crew from seeking alternatives to stress relief. Especially for the WWII American Navy, ice cream was provided because alcohol was not. Prohibition increased every American's appetite for booze, so its total absence aboard a warship had to be compensated for with ice cream. And for those who underestimate a service member's tenacity for breaking the rules, or their desire for liquor, look no further than Torpedo Juice and the USN having to mix poisons into torpedo fuel to make sailors stop using them for booze.
In a backstory for a stormtrooper legion I came up with, I describe one of their aspects as "snake eaters" meaning they eat whatever they kill while on long range recon patrols, they have good survivalist skills and operate differently than most stormtrooper legions.
Napoleon and Frederick the Great are attributed saying “an army marches on its stomach”. Apparently the Imperial military didn’t get the memo. I’d also add that the US Army also had chocolate bars designed to not melt in extreme heat if I remember correctly. Suffice it to say a military needs a good food supply.
Absolutely. If memory serves, Napoleon was one of the first adopters of canning, so his armies wouldn't have to rely as heavily on foraging. Not only did that mean his armies could move faster (because they didn't have to zigzag their routes to ensure they had raidable cities within reach as much), but they could be much larger, because they could support more troops with only a modest increase in the number of supply wagons they'd need to bring. I haven't heard about heat-resistant chocolate _bars_ specifically, but I have heard that having chocolate that wouldn't just melt into a puddle during the heat of a Pacific Theater day is where M&M's came from.
Actually M&M’s we’re developed because the soldiers chocolate bars were melting on them in the field. The hard candy shell prevented the chocolate from melting. The shell came only in brown and they were sold in a tin tube similar to the ones that M&M Minis came in. They never came up with a chocolate bar that couldn’t melt but I think this is what you’re referring to.
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NYC stable, LMAO
For some reason, I can envision stormtroopers eating only hot dogs...
Alan if you had a crystal ball you would never said New York City is stable it's more like a judge dredd maga city in chaos full of illegal immigrants
My dad told me that, while he was in the military, one of the most important members of his group was the one who always brought spices with him and knew how to cook.
That would be me as I'm not much good at anything else
Always take spices and Tobasco with you when you deploy.
Pain is MRE's leaving the body...
@@fyreantz2555 Meals Refuse to Exit.
If you can spice or salt up your MREs, you're set.
During WW2 the US Navy had created Ice Cream Ships to keep moral up and provide frozen treats to all allied forces.
I imagine it has ridiculous amount of weapons emplacements on it to protect it from ice cream thieves
@@GenerationTech sadly, no, it was just a ship made of concrete that delivered delicious frozen treats. But the Marines on board, those, are the real weapons that you shouldn't f with.
If memory serves me correctly there was a Japanese commander who despaired when he learned of the existence of American ice cream ships, since your average Japanese serviceman would get little more than a couple handfuls of rice and dried fish for their daily rations. They had no hope of competing with an enemy supply supply chain so extensive that it could regularly feed its soldiers luxury food like ice cream.
@@sentrysapper45 I think so??? Not exactly sure, but wouldn't surprise me lmfao
Like what the hell would you do after seeing the insane supply chain an enemy faction has? I'd sure as hell would try to think of a way to just find a means of keeping my guys alive and if it means surrendering to live another day (if it isn't the Russians) I'd go for it if it was like the USA that offered it. There is no shame or dishonor in surrendering to survive.
Only for a few naval ships
Not for marines
I remember in Jedi Fallen Order, one of the random bits of dialogue Stormtroopers can have while you're exploring has one of them blame their infamously bad aim on the rations.
I will not be surprised if that was true consider how bad food can affect someone who react to it in negative ways.
Hard to use that fancy blaster if you feel like Ewoks are chewing on your insides.
@@twistedyogert using that saying is how karma sends you to Space Vietnam™
@@genericuser984In that case their insides really were being chewed on by Ewoks.
If Order 66 was enough to nearly give Yoda a heart attack, what would someone being butchered do? Does Yoda even have a heart?
So they're all hypoglycemic?
If you want to see a telescoped course in bargaining and haggling, watch a group of soldiers in the field when ration packs (like MRE's) are passed out. If a soldier gets stuck with an unappetizing main course but a sought-after dessert item, the entire group will converge on him, offering a better entree in return for his dessert, along with various other side items like cookies, slices of ration bread (MRE bread was surprisingly good), and so on. If all went well, everyone in the unit would come away with something he liked to eat.
Market economy is what humanity does best ;)
Oh yes been there done that
Thats some shit we do at the cafeteria lunch table when a nigga brings a lunch box😊
In Burma during WW2 the British troops would trade their dried fish to the Gurkhas (who regarded it as a delicacy) in return for their chapatis. It was a win-win!
A whole box of Omlet with Ham MREs. It looked like the seat foam of my Humvee. I think the seat would have tasted betterm
What's more important is Grogu's lack of rations. Why do you think he is grabbing and eating whatever he can? Din Jarin is starving him.
This is why the Mandalorians had to be wiped out.
-Imperial media.
😂 It’s kind of true.
Grogu's species literally eats whatever it can get its' hands on. Yoda does this as well. These aliens can gobble up anything, and enjoy it. Yoda lived, for decades, alone on Dagobah. What exactly do you think was in those soups and broths that he fed to Luke, when Luke was training with Yoda? Hint: It sure as hell was NOT prime rib...
@@jacob4920 I thought Luke had his own rations in the X-wing.
@@twistedyogert which Yoda promptly stole and ate
I worked as a civilian contractor for a state air guard unit for 7 years. It was a stateside base with what you called Garrison cuisine. These folks ate well, basically civilian food.
No restaurant I ever worked in had more polite customers, but these folks Were under military discipline, and had to behave as such.
I spent enough time in the military where I grew to enjoy those MREs good times.
The US military endeavors to have the best food it can provide. I wouldn't say that US base and field kitchen food is the best out there, but a lot goes into the budget compared to other militaries to ensure that the food is at least OK to good.
@@brothersbornmediabeef strips be BUSSIN
We dont have to behave a certain way. We have integrity and honor that was instilled in us since boot camp or our parents. Thats why us service members active or retired are polite(for the most part).
Im pretty sure anyone who gets a hot meal that was not made in a processing plant would make most happy or polite.
As a 5 year army vet...there's much truth to this in the real world...in my final assignment before getting out of the military the food we received was such garbage i was insulted as a human that a couple occasions i refused to eat.
Yeah, the defac messed up my stomach so much I couldn't eat there anymore. I straight up got sep rats because I was medically incapable of consuming the defac's rations. I wasn't even deployed at the time.
@@Zachomara I'd rather eat the food I had when deployed as at least that never made me nauseous
I had only made military service in France Navy in Fusiliers marins but ... the NATO approved RCIR (ration de combat individuelle réchauffable) - Combat Ration Individual Reheatable - is pretty good it's 1500g (3.3 lbs), 294L x 149W x 63H (11.6″ x 5.9″ x 2.5″) cardboard box in plastic wrap for 24 hours...
It has a good quality control:
The choice of products depends 70% on quality, and 30% on price. The quality is judged by a jury of 8 to 15 soldiers who test the menus blind.
Not like I'm medically eligible to serve, but it makes me wonder. I have fodmap issues and a food allergy- I would get sick from some rations and straight up not be safe to eat others. How would they handle that?
@amberkat8147 honestly it be something to bring up from the beginning and even then if you get a bad one out of the bunch it can be pretty bad
Good rations mean good morale. Never mess with a soldiers pay or food and they will do as they are asked.
Except there are still people who complain about the taste of the rations sometimes saying they're barely even edible
They have improved quite a bit but some of those meals really are inedible. If you're lucky you can trade with a buddy who freakishly likes it but we used to just dump in Tabasco to hide the flavor. Unfortunately the new MRE's no longer have that life line 😢
Food is fuel for the body. If you are fighting non-stop for a day or 7, you are going to need to eat and eat well. Having the rations even taste even somewhat good can be a real boost to morale. I know that the US Army does a huge focus on their field kitchens being able to put out food that is simple and tasty that will feed a person that has just fought through hell. The cooks at a field kitchen should get a smile from the soldier when they get their tray, even if everything else has has gone wrong that day.
@@KnightsWithoutATableLMAOOO cooks have a horrible reputation. the bottom of the barrel ends up as cooks. i’ve met one that was actually a cool guy. most are the shittiest of shitbags.
Which is exactly why blockades, and siege tactics, are so vital to wearing your enemies down.
In Empire Strikes Back Luke had a ration that looked suspiciously like a pepperoni sausage. To quote Yoda's reaction to trying it "How do you get so big, eating food of this kind?"
The rest looked like Tokyo Mix.
Well, I was U.S. Army, infantry and an NCO from 1986 to 1994 and we used to call our MRE (Meal, Ready to Eat), the Morale Reducing Element... Some of these offerings really brought out some of the most visceral, ugly responses from soldiers as the tastes could go from average (beef and gravy), to surprisingly good (dehydrated peaches or the fruit cup were excellent), to the awful like the scrambled eggs... jokingly, I recall that we would make up different menu options. Like MRE Menu No. 14: Beer and Cigarettes. Ah, those were the days. As I was an Anti-Armor Specialist and usually was attached to a HMMWV, we would carry some extra canned goods to add a little spice to life. I used to also carry a cartoon of cigarettes. Not to smoke, but it was like currency and good for trading, especially with those creatures that inhabited supply depots.
Don't MREs also give you diarrhea?
@@twistedyogert It's been along time since I ate one, but more likely the opposite. Best to drink a bunch of water with it, but your mileage may vary.
@@twistedyogert what you really mean probably constipation..
MREs anywhere almost always emphasized on proteins, vitamins, nutrients less fiber and less carbo which in turn lead to constipation but YMMV...
@@dureteheiral1793 A guess it's useful not needing to stop and poop every few hours.
Thanks for the warning. As someone with a temperamental stomach I'll know to keep clear unless I have to.
Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics. We had field kitchens in Desert Storm. The food they served was a nice break from MREs.
Ever eat hot As
Mres were better
Did you ever try the vegetable omelette, I heard that was not a well received ration.
@@therookie7060- truly awful.
@@grayflaneur4854 I'm guessing you've had it?
@@therookie7060- Oh yes.. I suppose it is why they include a small bottle of Tobasco sauce in the condiment pack so you could choke it down.
A quote that has stuck with me:
“Good military leaders talk about tactics. Great military leaders talk about logistics.”
Battles are won or lost by your ability to supply and feed your forces.
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Yeah, like how war happen in history. The one who can maintain their logistic supply properly is the one who will won the war. Yeah, good tactic can make you a win a couple of battle, but with working logistic its mean you can give your army more chance to stay fighting even after lose some battle.
Which is why it makes me facepalm every time some idiots call ex-Stormtrooper Finn (from the SW sequels) a "janitor", when Finn was a trained ground trooper who worked in Logistics. An army without food, equipment, medicines, and yes, latrines and toilet paper, can't function.
Lets not forget during WW2, the US Navy had literal freezer ships that were used to haul ice cream along for the troops on the front lines. This tidbit of intelligence struck a major blow to enemy morale, particularly for the Japanese I believe whose troops were all having to survive on standard field rations without any of the luxury foods of home
None which made it to front line troops
They didn't even have the luxury of "standard rations". They got a few handfuls of dried rice and maybe some dried fish.
@@tomhenry897it made it to combat pilots at least.
United States had ice cream to raise morale. The Japanese used "comfort women", which is a lot less wholesome.
@@userequaltoNullSometimes they ate their prisoners.
There is nothing wrong with good MREs.
Loved it when I got Corned Beef Hash or Beef and Noodles.
The dried "Desert" bar was great to munch on and could be broken up as snacks when it had no water.
Corned beef hash was a favorite of mine as well
A lot of times i preferred my MRE's to field chow especially the breakfasts. Eggs came in two forms, chalk or slightly thick soup.
That said, there definitely are a few stinkers in those MRE boxes. My least favorite of all time was Tuna noodle casserole.
For those thinking about trying an MRE, avoid the breakfast MRE's, avoid trendy items like hamburgers or burritos, and remember that the veggie meals almost always have the best snacks. Anything and rice is almost always good, if it is usually a batch made item like chili Mac it'll probably be good. Above all else, don't eat the crackers dry, it's a safety hazard.
@@bigmekboy175 forgot about tuna casserole 🤮
@@bigmekboy175 Ukrainian army MRE is kinda good, a lot of meat there
The only bad thing about MRE is the time, you got no time for anything
Better than the empty plates the clones were eating from in Episode 2.
considering the kaminoan style, i guess the food was white, too
@@Spooglecraftyeah it was tofu so I would blend in with the plate I guess
When talking about Hardtack, I was half expecting Max Miller's hard tack (him banging two pieces together with a look of despair).
My dad was a director of us Army mobile food service and housing r&d in the 90s/00s. Their number one concern was how to get soldiers to eat all the food. An army that chooses not to finish the ration is one not fighting the best the next day. They didn't always succeed (I remember some 140f certified chocolate samples), but they were trying hard. You can thank them for the tiny ass Tabasco bottles :D
Once again love how you combine Star Wars with real life in your topics. Very fascinating videos.
I have to say this. I'm glad this channel finds things to talk about in the Star Wars universe without always focusing on how Star Wars is "ruined" every other video. Giving criticism when it's due and moving on to the things that fans do love. Kudos.
I remembered when I was watching Tasting History about bread pudding, it turned out the hospital foods during the American Civil War tasted a lot better than the hospital foods in nowadays. Now, imagine a bunch of Imperial officers and Stormtroopers who get to taste the hospital foods that turned out to be delicious and willingly injured themselves on the front line just so they can come back and eat foods that are not rations. I'm making this point because the foods serving for the troops on the fronts and the ones who are being hospitalized will be different, right? After all, during the American Civil War, making coffees out of potatoes is an ideal choice only because they tasted like coffees but not because they are actual coffees.
Hospital rations were better only ifthe hospitals were far behind the front lines. Mobile frontline MASH units didnt have that luxury. But you want to get injured or sick soldiers to get better, thus the better rations. While armies in the field historically often plundered the countryside for additional fresh food, stealing animals or extorting supplies from the population.
But soldiers who injure themselves voluntarily to be relieved of duty will be either court-martialed or (in brutal regimes) executed without bothering with a court first.
@@TF2CrunchyFrog I mean they voluntarily put themselves in the lines of enemy's fires so that they can get hospitalized and better foods, of course.
"This might not be the most interesting video" me as a chef: Oh, it is interesting, my dude. Would love to hear more.
There definitely are a lot of similarities between a well run kitchen and a well run military unit
When I was in the service we always joked that M.R.E. stood for Meals Rarely Eaten or there were three lies 1: It was a meal, 2: It was ready, 3: You could actually eat it. We always joked with the Civilians " Don't worry, If you get hungry enough they taste pretty good."
You eat civilians?
@@vladimirmihnev9702 No, the reference was to the MRE's tasting good if you were hungry enough.
@ vladimirmihnev9702 if you’re hungry enough
Are you tired of living the same routine?
Are you ready to see the galaxy and commit war crimes?
Then join the Empire! They have Taco Fridays.
Taco tuesdays!
If I was an Imperial Stormtrooper I would just go hungry or steal food from civilians because I'm not eating those rations .
Remember that scene in the star wars carton, where Anakin eats bugs? that would be perferable.
Say that again, after 5-10 days without ANY food. I guarantee you will eat the rations and be thankful for them.
@@bigwhitehoundI can just steal food from Civilians
@@mikkelnpetersenIndeed
@@thorpeaaron1110 Depending on your Imperial CO you might get away with that or you might get shot.
Having had times where i'd go 2 weeks with American MREs (and having tried a few other militaries field rations) even good field rations don't compare to bad garrison food. a good spice selection brought along can help but you're still dealing with the same limited rotation of premade foods. also keep in mind most field rations are also being made with the mind set of being quick to consume and easily transported so that soldiers are both able to carry a larger supply easily and spend less time in a more vulnerable state while eatting.
All you need is a little time, some water, and a rock or something.
I still hate that they took away the Tabasco.
@@eldorados_lost_searcher eh, I always brought ghost pepper or some of my own other hot sauce even when that was a thing.
@@eldorados_lost_searcher The tabasco is still in rotation! Though it was so rare I question mentioning it. I bought 2 dozen MREs and 2 had it in place of instant coffee or drink mix
Don’t forget the “Donut Dollies” during WW1 and onward through Viet Nam who provided donuts and coffee to the front lines. Those ladies deserve mention.
Logistics is I'd argue perhaps the most complicated part of running a military, which also makes it one of the most interesting parts.
To have war heroes on the battlefield, you must first have the unsung heroes in the Logistics office making sure everyone is properly supplied and fed.
This video brings back some memories of my time in the U.S. Navy. I never saw war or a conflict of any kind. I was on an aircraft carrier, U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71, and we had large stores of food and supplies. Two mess halls for the enlisted, large kitchens. We also carried resupplies for the other ships in our task force. I never had to eat field rations because we took our kitchen with us wherever we may go. We also had options for food 24/7 as the ship was active every minute of the day and night.
That’s so cool you served on an carrier, very few people can say they did those things are engineering marvels
My daughter is on the Abraham Lincoln. She says the food 'isn't that great'. My dad was a POW Guard in Korea. He said the food was nearly inedible, and the C rations were worse. He said the POW's ate better than he did.
@@PhantomQueenOne I remember watching the keel being laid out for the Abraham Lincoln in Newport News. My memories of chow are 35 years out of date. Maybe it was better back then. I don't know.
I always enjoy the real life vs fantasy aspect of your vids
Nice episode! When I was a WWII reenactor, I supplied repop edible K-rats for my unit with everything but the cigs
Ruined a couple printers forcing cardboard through them but it worked
Love these more niche topics, sometimes a galaxy far far away can bring things at home into perspective
Yeah one of the benefits of not having new shows out is we have a chance to cover more nuanced topics.
@@GenerationTech I love it when shows about sci-fi/fantasy/military cover topics beyond "The Top Ten Big Machines That Shoot Big Boom"
Still better than Corpse-starch ...
Attention citizen we have been informed by multiple third party individuals that you have complained about your corpse starch this is a breach of several passages of the book of judgment
You are what you eat. And there's nothing better than being human.
No it's not
Anything is better than corpse starch
Where do you think the troublesome batches of clones went 🤔
"The deathstar had luxury rations"
I mean the place did have an ommlette bar, a straight up ommlette bar!
I find videos like this extremely interesting, also the videos you've made about the ships and the economy in galaxy far, far away.
As Napoleon states, "An army travels on its stomach."
Join the Stormtroopers, they said. It will be fun, they said.
I've been lied to my entire life, they always told me the Dark Side would have cookies.
One of the details I liked from the Republic Commando books series was the inclusion of ration cubes by the clones and how they preferred eating anything else. I remember at least a few clones would hunt and eat different types of vermin just so they didn't have eat ration cubes again.
Meanwhile in the Astra Militarum: "Here, take this ration made with beef, vegetables, deceased imperial citizens and other ingredients from suspicious sources"
When I was in the Army my unit had a MKT or mobile kitchen that came with our battery in the field/deployment. We got a hot breakfast and dinner. We had MREs for lunch. The food from the MKT wasn't the best but it was good to get a hot meal. The only thing was you had to perform security during your meal because it would be a time for the enemy to attack. Half on security and half eating. The taste of your food depended on the cooks that got supplied to your unit. Most cooks hate going to the field. Especially with a firing battery. Because we never stayed in one place. They had to take their MKT down every time we moved sites.
No they didn’t
The ALOC Nevered moved
Trucked the food out to you
@tomhenry897 yes it did. How are you going to question my own military service. Look up MKT.
In Patriot missile batteries we had actual MKT because we didn't go back to the rear. Our tact sites worked as mini FOBs
Active USMC cook here, We also serve breakfast and dinner but we usually don't use MKT. Instead all we needed was a TRHS and either a humvee, JLTV, or MTVR to the field.
@XGhostReignX what is that? Must be something new? I been out almost 20 years
I didn't know that the "portions" that Rey was eating at the beginning of The Force Awakens were Imperial Stormtrooper rations. It kinda makes sense.
Pilfered mil-rations sold on the black market is a long & honorable tradition.
Imperial or new republic could’ve either. Janky was basically one large graveyard for military ships loaded with rations
@@GenerationTech You don't want to eat MRE's that have been left out in the sun, trust me. I shudder at the fact that you CAN do that with Imp rations.
2:25 these are Field Rations, NOT garrison rations.
There are different kinds of field rations. These are called "Hot Rats". They are cooked in the field and delivered via your friendly acquisitions specialist.
To give an example of the logistics involved, each of those foods has a different "turn around time"; i.e. how long before we take it back to the cooks because it is no longer safe to eat.
Yet somehow, it always ends up mixed with rice and left over night at the TOC... that is the breakfast of Heroes.
Now start factoring in the logistics of getting those foods to the front lines, and you can see how fresh food can be difficult to receive, let alone arrive to the trooper in a tasty way.
An Army marches on its stomach.
You can send a trooper in without ammo, but only if you feed him first.
The Navy has better meals than the army. The only MREs the Navy eats are in boot camp.
Food is ammo for the body.
The thought of a space McDonald’s or outer rim Captain D’s on the death star is hilarious to me.
Thank you for making videos about the behind the scenes operations and how life would really work in Star Wars
Ain't gonna lie, when we got to the sponsor I was hoping it'd be one of those meal delivery services.
"Stormtroopers had trouble getting fresh food on the front lines of crushing the Rebellion. Maybe if they had FACTOR they would've eaten better and crushed the uprisings."
Ive made videos exploring MREs and rations from militaries around the world and humanitarian aids.
Yes, I am interested in this kind of stuff haha great video.
You're right. Logistics is boring, but I heard from a book in theBelgariad series: Any fool can raise an army, but you will run into problems around suppertime.
I’m sure Stormtroopers would love having a Turbo Dog
I find it crazy how you seem to find a interesting topic for every video.
You forgot the imperial student rations: cheap ramen noodles from a galaxy far far away and canned Ewok meat. I demand more imperial credits! I am so over canned Ewok meat! MRE's with Ewok meat are also known as "Meal Rejected by the Enemy".
Or "Mess Rejected Ewok"
Im pretty sure the chunks of grisle and inedible crap i found in an mre were in fact dog or ewok meat lol😂😂😂
This is one of the reasons why I love the Republic Commando series.
*Star Wars fans:* "Star wars is way more technologically advanced than Star Trek!"
*Star Trek:* _Casually has food replicators._
Very interesting about Star Wars logistics. I loved the BBC tv series 'Bullets boots and bandages' by Military Historian Saul David. Really good history of how armies were fed in the field from Napoleonic period to the present day.
The M&M's were created to withstand the high tropical temperatures. On Okinawa and Iwo Jima, the phrase was 'melts in your mouth, not in the sand.' This would eventually evolve into the famous slogan, 'melts in your mouth, not in your hand.'
Something about hardtack, it was commonly broken and soaked in soup. And as someone who actually likes hardtack and pemmican you can mix both of them with potatoes and water to make a wonderful stew.
I always thought, that Galactic Empire are using some kind of bacterial-photosynthesis process to create some organic mass and then process this organic mass into food rations. In the world of giant city-size spaceships, this is much more logical, than to process a real meat and plants into rations.
The quote: "an army marches on its stomach" is never more true after you have starved for 3 days in a trench line. So food is very much a must no matter what franchise or reality you are in if you want your troops to do anything.
When I was in the army ( in real life ) the field rations were designed for maximum calorific value, high nutritional value, low weight, very long shelf life, and very low taste. It is common in most militaries to only care about size, weight, and usefulness. Palatability is not really considered.
actually hardtack was edible but, you would have to break it up in a stew, it was called Hellfire stew
Stormtroopers are raised from birth while Scouts, Pilots, Marines, and Soldiers are enlisted
I don't want to see your audio levels EVER again. Love u. Been watching this channel for nearly 10 years ❤
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@@GenerationTech are you going to endorse rfk Jr this election cycle?
Yoda practically spat out what Luke brought with him.
"Yecch! How you get so big eating food of this kind??"
Bwtraying Banthas to eat them is wrong, but that doesn't stop the backwards Mandalorian canon Tuskens from doing it, so I can see Imperials chowing down on them too.
M&Ms were a rip-off of a British confectionery known as Smarties. The "inventor" of M&Ms encountered the Smarties while fighting in the Spanish Civil War alongside British volunteers.
This is one reason wehy Sloan made a good admirial, while she was guarding count vidian she learned logistics and how important they are to opperations
The haircut/shape up looks top notch Alan, you must have one of the galaxies best barbers!
There are terrible Star Wars UA-camrs, there are good ones, and then there's Generation Tech, which is the GOAT.
can imagine Stormtrooper TK-1989 reviewing some of those Veg meats and poly starch breads for his comrades
“My logisticians are a humorless lot. They know if my campaign fails, they are the first ones I will slay.”
- Alexander the Great
As a soldier who had to live on canned food for awhile until more purmenennt solutions could be setup, this makes me thankful I still had real food
Is there any chance American Ben can do a cameo? You two were a dynamic duo. The Eminem and Dr. Dre of Star Wars.
Keep up the good work! For the Republic!
We need British Ben
I think you missed another point on why rebel field rations were more varied is they had to feed more species of aliens. The empire were just humans.
Hey, at least it is not Corpse Starch like the Imperial Guard have.
I think having more droids as part of the crew would help. The droids can do the more basic tasks while the organic beings can do the more complex ones somewhat like what the CIS did.
As far as the Civil War rations goes, the marching rations were most often salt pork, hardtack, and coffee. The full ration includes stuff like beans, rice, candles, soap, and other relatively shelf stable items. It was common practice in the 18th & 19th century for forts in North America to maintain a garden. Some times they might even have a few pigs and one or two cows.
"You wanna get a bite after our shift?"
"Sure, I could go for a Turbo Dog."
"I heard they make those out of skrats."
"That's just a rumor."
- Two stormtroopers
There is actually a middle ground that is a lot more common.... There are tactical kitchens that do deploy with units to provide At least one, maybe 2, hot meals a day. While the other is your combat ration.
Any position you can have any semi permanent infrastructure built around will have a mess hall.... It will also provide portable rations, Hot meals out to outer deployed semifixed positions.
It takes very bare bones facilities (often either at the beginning or the end of an operation) logistical isolation, or extended tactical patrols to reduce you to 3 meals a day of MREs for an extended block of time.
Honestly I sometimes wonder if the Sith spent so long in the shadows they forgot how to actually rule
Tech it has been a long long time you helped me learn so much for star wars thank you for sticking with it. Much love.
Every time he mentions hard tack, I expect Max Miller to pop in and **clack clack**.
How do you feed your army?
Rebellion: We feed them diverse rations grown throughout the outer rim.
Empire: we feed them blocks of slop made from devastating planetary ecosystems.
Droid Army: Ha, our army doesn't need to eat!
Rakatans: ;)
Oh, this brings me back....MREs might occasionally taste awful, but they will fill you up
Explains why the Empire chose Endor. Succulent Ewok meat. It also explains the animosity the Ewoks had for the Empire. The eaters became the eatees. ETs...heyooo, I'll be here all night!
No matter how bad stormtrooper rations are, it could never be as horrible as the old chicken ala king MRE. I'm pretty sure that was what evil tastes like.
During Star Wars A New Hope when Luke and the others were being pursued by the Stormtroopers on the Deathstar. Did the Stormtroopers missed on perhaps because Darth Vader ordered them? Or was it the Force protecting them because of destiny?
It sounds like all these military ration makers forgot to add that little hot sauce packet to make it palatable.
Fun fact: Nowadays, Pall Mall cigarettes are higher quality and more expensive than Lucky Strike FILTERED cigarettes. Very rarely you can find somewhere that still sells Lucky Strike non-filter cigarettes, which are higher quality and more expensive than the filtered kind. Pretty strange.
As a retired Navy cook, I can tell everyone that one people on Submarines get the best food in the Military, two MRE's are delicious; especially the vegan burger, the spicy penie pasta, and spaghetti and meatballs, and three going on deployments when you're on a Navy ship you get interesting foods from all over the world.
Why the hell would you have MREs in the Navy? We carry our kitchen with us everywhere we go. Three hots and a cot everyday.
@@funveeable I had MREs in the Navy because I worked in the field during field exercises, before we had our kitchens set up. I also was going to go do an IA in Iraq and Kuwait; so we ate them as part of our training.
MRE's have improved over the past decades. Now they are much better than what was given to us in the late 80's.
fun fact about the wwi supply chain.... ANZACS only ever got australian beef when they took turkish trenches. because the turks had our beef. while anzacs were limited to UK castoffs.
With the scoundrel's cantina from long time. Thx for recommendin. His videos r great too. 😊👍
6:44 wow, that's some horrible artwork right there. Guess the artist was eating some of these rations themselves
Han's an Elf!
On a side note, especially in the US Navy, good food was provided as a way of reducing the stress of personnel aboard. Especially because the Navy had a limited tolerance of smoking and (like any first rate navy in history) they had a zero tolerance on substance use.
Hot, well prepared meals keeps sailors in good health and able bodied. It is a boon for not just morale but also general health and fitness, especially among people who need to work heavy machinery in confined spaces at all times, or must keep their attention during long hours of watch.
And, as mentioned before, good food keeping stress levels low also keeps the crew from seeking alternatives to stress relief. Especially for the WWII American Navy, ice cream was provided because alcohol was not. Prohibition increased every American's appetite for booze, so its total absence aboard a warship had to be compensated for with ice cream. And for those who underestimate a service member's tenacity for breaking the rules, or their desire for liquor, look no further than Torpedo Juice and the USN having to mix poisons into torpedo fuel to make sailors stop using them for booze.
The moving green bar on the laptop monitor really adds a lot to the video
Hard tack is still a valuable ration today because it can keep for a really long time. It's not great on it's won, but sumuch better with soup.
In a backstory for a stormtrooper legion I came up with, I describe one of their aspects as "snake eaters" meaning they eat whatever they kill while on long range recon patrols, they have good survivalist skills and operate differently than most stormtrooper legions.
I like that idea it’s very down to earth with the resources
*Laughs in US MIC.*
Two hot meals a day, and they finally figured out Pizza MRE's!
I didn't know the imperial food logistics were that bad, that explains why storm troopers have bad aim.
Napoleon and Frederick the Great are attributed saying “an army marches on its stomach”. Apparently the Imperial military didn’t get the memo.
I’d also add that the US Army also had chocolate bars designed to not melt in extreme heat if I remember correctly. Suffice it to say a military needs a good food supply.
Absolutely. If memory serves, Napoleon was one of the first adopters of canning, so his armies wouldn't have to rely as heavily on foraging. Not only did that mean his armies could move faster (because they didn't have to zigzag their routes to ensure they had raidable cities within reach as much), but they could be much larger, because they could support more troops with only a modest increase in the number of supply wagons they'd need to bring.
I haven't heard about heat-resistant chocolate _bars_ specifically, but I have heard that having chocolate that wouldn't just melt into a puddle during the heat of a Pacific Theater day is where M&M's came from.
Actually M&M’s we’re developed because the soldiers chocolate bars were melting on them in the field.
The hard candy shell prevented the chocolate from melting. The shell came only in brown and they were sold in a tin tube similar to the ones that M&M Minis came in.
They never came up with a chocolate bar that couldn’t melt but I think this is what you’re referring to.
Never served have you
To keep the troops from eating it to fast was made un eatable
Yes they were called Hershey's Tropical bars