Great review! I would also like to add if you are in the market for an MBR and can’t choose between the new NRX+ MBR or Conquest MBR, go with the Conquest. The conquest still feels significantly stronger on the water. The NRX+ definitely feels stronger because they added the Spiral X to it, but it still has but very slightly, that NRX feel. I own the Conquest 903c and NRX+ 904c MBR, and I can tell you that although the NRX+ is a power stronger, my conquest still feels better and stronger in hand when fighting fish. Overall, the Conquest is just a stronger built rod if you’re looking for a strong gloomis rod to do it all.
Great review. I have an older 873 and a newer + 853 and had a similar experience on the water. NRX's are great with noticeable upgrades, but have the same feel on the water. I wasn't 100% sure because I couldn't do side by side comparisons. The best thing from the NRX+'s to me is the addition of the MBR. Love the 844 and can't wait for the 843 to come back in stock. I love the new spinning rod handles so I agree that the upgrades are worth the extra $$$.
love your reviews. however, i would like to add i have both old and new 901s and 902s. both reel seats have been moved forward .5"to .75". this change has really balanced the rods in a much better way. my nrx+ rods way less tip heavy
straight forward and honest as always... I think the 872s older model carry's forward the qualities that made it unique better than the + version does (castability, softer tip).
I got a +872s and was surprised how stiff it was. Kind of makes me want to hunt down the original 872 to see the difference. If it’s significantly softer tip I’d probably prefer the original… I’m unsure about the +
Really like the handle on my 821 NRR over my IMX-PRO spinning rod's handle (similar looking to the old NRX), so I'll probably stick with the + models when I get around to buying more. Do you feel like Ben at The Hookup Tackle represented the 872s well in his review vs the Windbuster? My own experience with an 852s leads me to believe the 1/8-3/8 rating is for the jighead/bullet weight and not total lure weight. My IMX-PRO 852s is more powerful than my 7'3" M Victory, and handles 1/2oz Dark Sleepers and 9/16oz Whopper Ploppers better than the Victory.
I have an NRX 803S JWR, Conquest 842S SJR, and a Conquest 782S SJR. I just got the 782S and I feel like the tip on it is waaaay too flexible. Sounds weird, but I feel like it's too... bendy? And this is just throwing weightless Senko's. I use my 842S all the time, but find myself grabbing my NRX over the 782S quite often. That being said, I agree with vSaviay - spend the extra money to get the Conquest.
I don’t think this is a dumb video idea at all, man. In the guitar world, we sometimes compare models that have been out of production for decades. Some of the best NRX deals come when you can be patient and find a gently used model at a good price. Relevant information all the way.
Got a +872s and was surprised at how stiff it was. I’ve never tried an original 872 but curious if when you say “slightly” stiffer it has significant feel difference? The + is VERY fast and VERRRRY powerful for 1/8-3/8 rating IMO. Maybe I haven’t fished it enough yet either. You probably have more time on the water
Yeah I watched a video of another great You Tuber, but he is in with Shimano, on how much greater they were. I agree they are both great and not a world of difference. I have a few in both and I am not willing to get rid of the older versions and get the plus. I'd rather get a new plus in one I don't have if I need to.
You are going to make me broke! You already got me on the St. Croix Victory 7'3" + Stradic FL combo. I'm already thinking about the NRX+ version - must restrain myself.
I was interested in getting an NRX+ as a jig and soft plastics rod but the fact that you mentioned that they were tip heavy made the decision to go with a P5 Dark Sleeper much easier, Ben and Griff express differences in a P5 vs NRX+ comparison but they don’t call it out right tip heavy. I know the NRXs are light but there is know reason imo that they can’t find a way to make basically the most expensive bass rods evenly balanced.
I don't think the "tip heavy" nature of the NRX+ is really that bad because the rods are ridiculously light. Plus, I think the balance is only really amplified on their 7'5" rods (894/893/895). I have a 873c NRX+ and it's balance is perfectly fine. I have a 894c with a Steez A on it and it feels pretty good.
@@PunchFishing How does the weight and balance of the NRX+ compare to a Destroyer P5? The 873c seems like a comparable rod to the Dark Sleeper do you think there would be any reason to go with the 873c over the Dark Sleeper?
@@PunchFishing what P5 or NRX+ do you think would be best at throwing say a weightless 5” senko or 3.8 bull flat but also be able to do some bottom contact? I’m limited on space so I’m looking for something that can do a bit of both. Looking back at your P5 X-Bites review it feels like that’s the rod I’m describing.
In my opinion, the NRX was already the best rods on the market and the NRX+ rods address the only things that needed improving. I did find the reel seats on the old models a little uncomfortable. New ones are much better. The balance points are improved. I also owned the old 873c and have new one. The balance is very good. I ventured out and tried the comparable new Diawa Steez models. I was very underwhelmed and sold both of them. I watched your video that gave those rods props for a more major reboot. Side by side fishing with the NRX, the Steez did not look or feel as high end to me. I did not own the old NRX 852s (had Conquest 842s), but the NRX+ 852+ is very fast. In fact, I’m thinking about going with a NRX+842s instead because I do a lot of dock skipping and it seems tougher on the 852s. What do you think?
@@01KINGKENG The hard part is going to be a range from 1/16-1/2. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is the Daiwa Steez 7'6" its rated 1/16 up to 3/4. The ALX Charmer is rated up to a 1/2 so that might work as well.
@@PunchFishing I drag jigs I have Tatula Elite AGS ML 6'10". My fishing partner uses a Steez and he kills me. He swears it's more sensitive then his GLX. The best rod I have for draging is a Victory 7'3" it just fishes great (needs better aesthetics) but the way the rod loads into the bite is the easiest for me a newb to feel the bite, dragging a 1/8oz ball/3" swimbait for spotted bass
I have several nrx + and for whatever reason I've had a ton of breakfast with them and I use seagaur tatsu. Just curious if you've had the same issues??
Honest statements, as always. You seem to be truly independent so far, thumbs up….Unfortunately, too many of so called „influencers“ are not as neutral as they should be in order to have consulting value. You are! Edit: you really should try some JDM Evergreen rods. I‘m sure you will enjoy….
I bought an Orion Black Rose and I LOVE IT. The styling is absolutely sick and it is by far the most well-built stick I’ve ever owned. I really like it for throwing chatterbaits since the taper is more moderate once you hook a fish but it’s powerful enough to get through cover no problem. It’s also still quite sensitive for bottom contact. Over time I will be replacing my line up with Evergreen rods after my experience with The Black Rose. Next pick up I’m thinking about is a Kaleido Inspirare Egoist for a dedicated bottom contact rod.
@@davideakin3372 I have an Orion „The Throne“ for throwing Big Baits (incredible Power/Weight ratio) and several Kaleido Inspirare (Super Stallion GT, Gunslinger, Black Raven Rs ltd). The unique selling point for these Evergreen rods is versatility in my opinion. Compared with e.g Megabass P5 Destroyer or Daiwa Steez (all of them are incredibly well built and really high end), these Evegreen rods are capable of serving a broader range of baits and techniques. The P5 Destroyer on the other hand are outstanding fishing the technique they are dedicated to. If you look for a rod serving bottom contact techniques (jig heads in general) take a look at the Gunslinger. Incredibly sensible, you can feel a fishes fart :) If you want to throw Texas or Carolina rigs the Gunslinger won’t fit as the tip is a bit stiff…..
@@andyb2604 yes, that’s right. But I tend to focus more on the blanks quality, the guide train, overall built quality and in particular balance. The cork is a disappointment especially for such expensive rods. I was lucky to get my hands on some NRXs as well and IMO these rods do not deserve the reputation they have. Not well balanced (each model was tip heavy), not that light (in contradiction to the marketing hype) and esthetically poor designed (I know, that‘ personal preference). So a better quality cork will not compensate these circumstances at all…
Expride is about the top end of my budget, so I'm one of those degenerates who will sit and watch this even though absolutely none of it will ever apply to me.
I have an NRX+ paired with a Shimano Stradic CI4+. When I have a decent bass on it sounds very rough through the eyes for some reason. I only use monofilament line and have swapped the same reels multiple times and it still seems rough. Has anyone had this same issue? Thanks
I disagree a little. I have the 893c old and new +. I’ve fished both extensively. It is probably my most used rod. The + feels noticeably different to me. It is more crisp and casts better. The original has a bit of a numb feeling in comparison.
This really upsets me .. I really want to try a Nrx but I can’t stand the guides .. wish they would have torzite guides .. I’ll probably pick up a conquest ..
It's a shame since Shimano bought Gloomis they no longer ship outside the U.S cutting off us Military serving overseas. I can't support a company that doesn't support the Military community. :(
I am in the last category!
No plan to own an NRX but I will always watch your rod and reel videos (spinning more than casting).
Great review! I would also like to add if you are in the market for an MBR and can’t choose between the new NRX+ MBR or Conquest MBR, go with the Conquest. The conquest still feels significantly stronger on the water. The NRX+ definitely feels stronger because they added the Spiral X to it, but it still has but very slightly, that NRX feel. I own the Conquest 903c and NRX+ 904c MBR, and I can tell you that although the NRX+ is a power stronger, my conquest still feels better and stronger in hand when fighting fish. Overall, the Conquest is just a stronger built rod if you’re looking for a strong gloomis rod to do it all.
Great review. I have an older 873 and a newer + 853 and had a similar experience on the water. NRX's are great with noticeable upgrades, but have the same feel on the water. I wasn't 100% sure because I couldn't do side by side comparisons. The best thing from the NRX+'s to me is the addition of the MBR. Love the 844 and can't wait for the 843 to come back in stock. I love the new spinning rod handles so I agree that the upgrades are worth the extra $$$.
Awesome review, no biased bullshit. Just picked up a last gen 901S NRX to pair with a Stella for finesse swimbaits and hair jigs
Thanks for the kind words!
love your reviews. however, i would like to add i have both old and new 901s and 902s. both reel seats have been moved forward .5"to .75". this change has really balanced the rods in a much better way. my nrx+ rods way less tip heavy
Spot on review!!! I agree 100%. The new ones are great but the old ones are still great too.
The spiral x prevents rod twist when you hook up on bigger fish 👍🏻
1:05 damn homie didnt have to call me out like that lol
The G. Loomis Nrx+ 822s dsr guide train
How many fuji stripper guides does it have, how many recoil guides & what tip does it have
1:07 oof you really hit me right in the soul with that one 😭
straight forward and honest as always... I think the 872s older model carry's forward the qualities that made it unique better than the + version does (castability, softer tip).
The NRX+ 872s is a smidge stiffer than the older one. I like them both really.
Excellent vid! To the point covered all the essentials. Thanks for your opinion
I got a +872s and was surprised how stiff it was.
Kind of makes me want to hunt down the original 872 to see the difference. If it’s significantly softer tip I’d probably prefer the original… I’m unsure about the +
Really like the handle on my 821 NRR over my IMX-PRO spinning rod's handle (similar looking to the old NRX), so I'll probably stick with the + models when I get around to buying more.
Do you feel like Ben at The Hookup Tackle represented the 872s well in his review vs the Windbuster? My own experience with an 852s leads me to believe the 1/8-3/8 rating is for the jighead/bullet weight and not total lure weight. My IMX-PRO 852s is more powerful than my 7'3" M Victory, and handles 1/2oz Dark Sleepers and 9/16oz Whopper Ploppers better than the Victory.
In the 3rd category. Great video.
Nicely done, no BS sales talk
thanks for watching!
I have an NRX 803S JWR, Conquest 842S SJR, and a Conquest 782S SJR. I just got the 782S and I feel like the tip on it is waaaay too flexible. Sounds weird, but I feel like it's too... bendy? And this is just throwing weightless Senko's. I use my 842S all the time, but find myself grabbing my NRX over the 782S quite often. That being said, I agree with vSaviay - spend the extra money to get the Conquest.
I don’t think this is a dumb video idea at all, man. In the guitar world, we sometimes compare models that have been out of production for decades. Some of the best NRX deals come when you can be patient and find a gently used model at a good price. Relevant information all the way.
I just recently got my 1st nrx+ ...I couldnt even find the regular nrx to compare them too.
Got a +872s and was surprised at how stiff it was. I’ve never tried an original 872 but curious if when you say “slightly” stiffer it has significant feel difference? The + is VERY fast and VERRRRY powerful for 1/8-3/8 rating IMO. Maybe I haven’t fished it enough yet either. You probably have more time on the water
Yeah I watched a video of another great You Tuber, but he is in with Shimano, on how much greater they were. I agree they are both great and not a world of difference. I have a few in both and I am not willing to get rid of the older versions and get the plus. I'd rather get a new plus in one I don't have if I need to.
Agreed!
You are going to make me broke! You already got me on the St. Croix Victory 7'3" + Stradic FL combo. I'm already thinking about the NRX+ version - must restrain myself.
I was interested in getting an NRX+ as a jig and soft plastics rod but the fact that you mentioned that they were tip heavy made the decision to go with a P5 Dark Sleeper much easier, Ben and Griff express differences in a P5 vs NRX+ comparison but they don’t call it out right tip heavy. I know the NRXs are light but there is know reason imo that they can’t find a way to make basically the most expensive bass rods evenly balanced.
I don't think the "tip heavy" nature of the NRX+ is really that bad because the rods are ridiculously light. Plus, I think the balance is only really amplified on their 7'5" rods (894/893/895). I have a 873c NRX+ and it's balance is perfectly fine. I have a 894c with a Steez A on it and it feels pretty good.
@@PunchFishing How does the weight and balance of the NRX+ compare to a Destroyer P5? The 873c seems like a comparable rod to the Dark Sleeper do you think there would be any reason to go with the 873c over the Dark Sleeper?
@@josharansky the 873c is way more powerful than the dark sleeper. Dark sleeper is pretty soft. Honestly there's not a P5 that's comparable to the 873
@@josharansky dark sleeper is more of a swimjig rod than a dragging rod, IMHO
@@PunchFishing what P5 or NRX+ do you think would be best at throwing say a weightless 5” senko or 3.8 bull flat but also be able to do some bottom contact? I’m limited on space so I’m looking for something that can do a bit of both.
Looking back at your P5 X-Bites review it feels like that’s the rod I’m describing.
In my opinion, the NRX was already the best rods on the market and the NRX+ rods address the only things that needed improving. I did find the reel seats on the old models a little uncomfortable. New ones are much better. The balance points are improved. I also owned the old 873c and have new one. The balance is very good. I ventured out and tried the comparable new Diawa Steez models. I was very underwhelmed and sold both of them. I watched your video that gave those rods props for a more major reboot. Side by side fishing with the NRX, the Steez did not look or feel as high end to me. I did not own the old NRX 852s (had Conquest 842s), but the NRX+ 852+ is very fast. In fact, I’m thinking about going with a NRX+842s instead because I do a lot of dock skipping and it seems tougher on the 852s. What do you think?
Do you prefer the G Loomis NRX or the St. Croix Legend X if you had to choose 1 rod?
NRX by far, but Legend X is better "bang for the buck". If cost is an issue, Legend X is a great buy.
What is a good rod to do weightless senkos, drop shots, Ned’s and sometimes crappie lures?
Price range?
@@drunknnirish up to 500 or alittle more that’s fine
@@01KINGKENG The hard part is going to be a range from 1/16-1/2. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is the Daiwa Steez 7'6" its rated 1/16 up to 3/4. The ALX Charmer is rated up to a 1/2 so that might work as well.
@@drunknnirish I went to JDM rods for this. Look at a 7 1/2 foot tict sram. Stiff enough for bass and can still throw a 1/16 ounce jig a mile.
NRX are great rods especially with the warranty. Shimano rods with one year warranty are not as good of a deal.
The video I needed. Thanks!
Do you use Daiwa Steez spinning rods.? If so did you do a review?
I don't have any Steez AGS spinning rods! (yet)
@@PunchFishing
I drag jigs I have Tatula Elite AGS ML 6'10". My fishing partner uses a Steez and he kills me. He swears it's more sensitive then his GLX. The best rod I have for draging is a Victory 7'3" it just fishes great (needs better aesthetics) but the way the rod loads into the bite is the easiest for me a newb to feel the bite, dragging a 1/8oz ball/3" swimbait for spotted bass
I have several nrx + and for whatever reason I've had a ton of breakfast with them and I use seagaur tatsu. Just curious if you've had the same issues??
Breakfast?
@@PunchFishing stupid phone. Breakoffs is the new nrx+ model. Sorry
@@mikedaley2882 check you guides for rough spots or cracks in the rings use a qtip to see if the guides grab any of the cotton.
Honest statements, as always. You seem to be truly independent so far, thumbs up….Unfortunately, too many of so called „influencers“ are not as neutral as they should be in order to have consulting value. You are! Edit: you really should try some JDM Evergreen rods. I‘m sure you will enjoy….
I bought an Orion Black Rose and I LOVE IT. The styling is absolutely sick and it is by far the most well-built stick I’ve ever owned. I really like it for throwing chatterbaits since the taper is more moderate once you hook a fish but it’s powerful enough to get through cover no problem. It’s also still quite sensitive for bottom contact. Over time I will be replacing my line up with Evergreen rods after my experience with The Black Rose. Next pick up I’m thinking about is a Kaleido Inspirare Egoist for a dedicated bottom contact rod.
@@davideakin3372 I have an Orion „The Throne“ for throwing Big Baits (incredible Power/Weight ratio) and several Kaleido Inspirare (Super Stallion GT, Gunslinger, Black Raven Rs ltd). The unique selling point for these Evergreen rods is versatility in my opinion. Compared with e.g Megabass P5 Destroyer or Daiwa Steez (all of them are incredibly well built and really high end), these Evegreen rods are capable of serving a broader range of baits and techniques. The P5 Destroyer on the other hand are outstanding fishing the technique they are dedicated to. If you look for a rod serving bottom contact techniques (jig heads in general) take a look at the Gunslinger. Incredibly sensible, you can feel a fishes fart :) If you want to throw Texas or Carolina rigs the Gunslinger won’t fit as the tip is a bit stiff…..
@@arnemueller2112 Absolutely agree about the versatility. I’ve thrown a ton of things on my Black Rose and it handles them all really well.
@@arnemueller2112 p5 and steez cork definitely isn’t high end
@@andyb2604 yes, that’s right. But I tend to focus more on the blanks quality, the guide train, overall built quality and in particular balance. The cork is a disappointment especially for such expensive rods. I was lucky to get my hands on some NRXs as well and IMO these rods do not deserve the reputation they have. Not well balanced (each model was tip heavy), not that light (in contradiction to the marketing hype) and esthetically poor designed (I know, that‘ personal preference). So a better quality cork will not compensate these circumstances at all…
Expride is about the top end of my budget, so I'm one of those degenerates who will sit and watch this even though absolutely none of it will ever apply to me.
Is there an NRX rod appropriate for fishing Shad raps?
Great question, I'd say any of the 2 power spinning rods.
I have an NRX+ paired with a Shimano Stradic CI4+. When I have a decent bass on it sounds very rough through the eyes for some reason. I only use monofilament line and have swapped the same reels multiple times and it still seems rough. Has anyone had this same issue?
Thanks
Sorry. Spinning rod 852S
I have both both old and new I like the older one better
Awesome video thank you 🙏
Do phenix k2 vs nrx+ next.
Are the g loomis usa made or china made like all shimano rods
No, they are made in their plant in the US.
I think I’ll wait until they come out with a new update with the monoque handle. 🤣
Hah
Fishing gear degen here!
I disagree a little. I have the 893c old and new +. I’ve fished both extensively. It is probably my most used rod. The + feels noticeably different to me. It is more crisp and casts better. The original has a bit of a numb feeling in comparison.
Do they have an nrx+ on the 10-30lb?
What are u referring too? The rod ratings ?
@@mikedaley2882 yes the rod rating I want an nrx+ but on the heavy side
If you going to shell out the money for a NRX rod with cork grips and old tech, try and Edge rod by Gary Loomis you will not be disappointed I wasn't.
Love my NRX+’s, my IMX-PRO’s are awesome and my GCX’s are mehh…..
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Do u fish walleye
Yes on occasion
You should totally do some walleye spinning rod videos!!
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Brian yes I'm a fishing gear degenerate my doctor recommended rehab, but then we started talking rods and reels.
ha
My favorite part of this was who this video was for. I'm definitely fall into the degenerates group who just want stuff like this. Thanks punch!
You and me both!
This really upsets me .. I really want to try a Nrx but I can’t stand the guides .. wish they would have torzite guides .. I’ll probably pick up a conquest ..
They will never put Torzite ok the nrx.
@@PunchFishing what conquest would you recommend for 3/8-1/2 oz jigs ???
It's a shame since Shimano bought Gloomis they no longer ship outside the U.S cutting off us Military serving overseas. I can't support a company that doesn't support the Military community. :(