@@thepunkrockreview is your wife's bf proud of you for writing that I just did,. How do we who claim to ascribe to individual thought justify the question of how we should collectively think about something? Is that a better rewording for you?
Nobody has purely independent thought, unless they’ve lived in isolation all their lives. Maybe you should define “independent thought,” because we are constantly influenced by others.
Romper Stomper not only wasn't an accurate representation of skinhead culture, it was a completely inaccurate portrayal of Melbourne. Footscray does not look like that, Footscray has had its issues but it's not a hive of stupid racists. It was the last inner-city neighbourhood in Melbourne to be yuppified and it has a fascinating history, amazing local culture and a bloody good footy team. Why they shot scenes that were supposed to be there on the other side of the city and hope nobody noticed was flat out insulting.
They do the same thing with Houston. Watch that movie X from a cpl years back and Houston looks Nothing like Houston. That's pretty common I think, but it's very annoying
I lived in footscray at the time and yes they had romper stompers and yes some were like this. You didn't want to cross them. I wore an old military coat, and they left me alone.
Like i was saying, it's a Nazisploitation movie. If I called it a skinhead movie, that's. It really what I meant. I'll check out the movie you mentioned, I've never heard of it
@@thepunkrockreview you never called it a skinhead movie. i could tell that YOU are a true skin even if you might not self identify such. real recognizes real. at times others would state something that felt generalized. I'm not trying to rip on anyone. skins have never been portrayed accurately.... are skins somewhat prone to violence, yes but anger is a gift. I'm not some do nothing hippy. if i see some atrocious situation/action i can't pretend everything is fine i have to intervene and make things right.. sorry, for my rambling comment
The film itself is good. I don't think there will ever be an accurate film about punks or skins etc. I always felt the violence and peer pressure was a legit part of the bonehead experience. The parties in the film are extremely legit. Also, we didn't really have the anti Asian contingent in the US when this came out, there surely is now. I knew WP skins like this in the day. I feel the story of Hando & Davey suffered from the jealous over the strange gf angle, and was the worst part of the film. The end is accurate to me, the drowning & stabbing. As everyone who watched this in the day knew, it was an anti-bonehead film. A bunch of us Trad skins went to see this in the theatre, and no one was hyped to go kill, kill, kill. The way that G. Wright got them all together pre-film and worked them into acting like a gang was a thoughtful thing to do. I felt sad for Davey and avenged for Hando. I also recognized some Trad skin groups acting similar, back then as a teen. You can say it's a WP movie, but I feel it's a semi true telling of how the scene was in the 80s/90s. Extremely violent & senseless in general. Nonetheless I enjoyed this film, esp Russell Crowe drinking milk in his tighty whiteys after the party 😅 but that's a personal thing. I hate the painted on tattoos the most. I think Russell Crowe was brave to do this film, prior he had played a young gay man. He was really looking to grow as an actor. Finally, I was wearing Fred Perry, bombers and following lace code way before this came out. If it informed idiots, that's just a sad side effect. 😢
the hell are you on about??? lol, at least a couple of the people in this video voted for Trump, and they're still my friends. I don't cry about Trump winning... you're a goofy
The boot lace (to the best of my knowledge from my dad) is yellow! It's for SHARPs (skinheads against racial prejudice) for those who know and follow lace code
Lace whatever your willing to defend.. Red laces out here usually meant Neo Fascist.. Bonehead types.. White laces.. was Skinhead.. Like I said.. whatever you are willing to stand up for.. it's on you.. Cheers from a 51 year old Traditional Skinhead... Oi Oi Oi from Westminster CA 🇺🇸.. P.s.never understood SHARP.. why the label . If that patch makes you feel better . Then go for it . Defend it .
There's a curious tendency to vehemently disavow art that isn't explicitly moralistic, representing values that the viewer espouses. Perhaps saturation in explicitly political art can lead to people developing an expectation that any art they encounter should be an easily digestible political statement. The problem with this is that it undermines the freedom of the artist to pursue the aesthetics, the poetry, the raw energy, of the art, without being the political mouthpiece of the culture. Not all art is propaganda. Anton Chigurh got away with it. Does Cormac McCarthy endorse his actions? Do the directors of slasher films support murder? Australia is extremely cosmopolitan. Especially Melbourne.
Having a negative critique against an artists work doesn’t disavow their artistic freedom. The movie was already made. Criticism cannot affect it now. Even in general, negative criticism won’t take away some one’s freedom to make an asinine mess of a movie that aims to destroy the sanctity of multiple communities.
i rember when this came out i was in seattle and like all the skins came back to my bros house after opening night all night better then clockwork orange ya this is just what happened to most crews like bash that one actor was killed 6 moths later also the movie is made by sharps
What movie was made by SHARP skins, Romper Stomper? No it wasn't. It was written and directed by Geoffrey Wright. Based losely on a racist dude from Australia. The first part of your comment doesn't make sense, either, so I'm not 100% what you meant. I appreciate you watching the video tho ✌️
Interesting conversation. I can only image the poor musicians that had their work co-opted in such a heinous manner. You can't be held responsable for the action of IDIOTS.
John Clifford.. is credited for the songs.. The hilarious one's.. Years ago.. all kinds of misinformation about who/which band of bands recorded these songs.. Cheers from Orange County California 🇺🇸..
It's a Prison movie.. And a reflection on the W-P movement... loosely.. on the Southern California Neo Fascist Bonehead scene.. One of the Most interesting things shown,, also the most dangerous type of Neo Fascist!.. The Girlfriend!!.. I grew up with more than a few friends, who have done time... (Woods) And Neo Fascist.. who .. like most.. to survive, you better keep to your race... It's a thing.. After prison... Most married to Hispanic/Latinas...
I do remember the scene where the guy who joined the Navy came back on leave, and he didn't just seem to fit in anymore.
it's a awesome movie with awesome music I'm not a racist but I really enjoyed it and did my Asian mates here in Australia, it's considered a classic
The movie actually has some great seams of thematic depth too, with the skinheads and vietnamese being perceptual mirror images of one another
"How should we feel about this movie"?????? Imagine an artistic movement based on independent thought, now asking this question.
Imagine being a douche bc of a UA-cam video. Maybe start a dialogue instead of being a giant turd? Lol, smh.
@@thepunkrockreview is your wife's bf proud of you for writing that
I just did,. How do we who claim to ascribe to individual thought justify the question of how we should collectively think about something? Is that a better rewording for you?
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Nobody has purely independent thought, unless they’ve lived in isolation all their lives. Maybe you should define “independent thought,” because we are constantly influenced by others.
Romper Stomper not only wasn't an accurate representation of skinhead culture, it was a completely inaccurate portrayal of Melbourne. Footscray does not look like that, Footscray has had its issues but it's not a hive of stupid racists. It was the last inner-city neighbourhood in Melbourne to be yuppified and it has a fascinating history, amazing local culture and a bloody good footy team. Why they shot scenes that were supposed to be there on the other side of the city and hope nobody noticed was flat out insulting.
They do the same thing with Houston. Watch that movie X from a cpl years back and Houston looks Nothing like Houston. That's pretty common I think, but it's very annoying
I lived in footscray at the time and yes they had romper stompers and yes some were like this. You didn't want to cross them. I wore an old military coat, and they left me alone.
16 Years of Alcohol is the my favorite skinhead movie. also i don't categorize this as a skinhead film. it's a neo-nazi film.
Like i was saying, it's a Nazisploitation movie. If I called it a skinhead movie, that's. It really what I meant. I'll check out the movie you mentioned, I've never heard of it
@@thepunkrockreview you never called it a skinhead movie. i could tell that YOU are a true skin even if you might not self identify such. real recognizes real. at times others would state something that felt generalized. I'm not trying to rip on anyone. skins have never been portrayed accurately.... are skins somewhat prone to violence, yes but anger is a gift. I'm not some do nothing hippy. if i see some atrocious situation/action i can't pretend everything is fine i have to intervene and make things right.. sorry, for my rambling comment
Thanks, I appreciate you getting it. I'm looking for that movie you mentioned
Neo Fascist...
That's all the Movie has ever been..
A fly on the wall experience...
Oi Oi Oi from Orange County California 🇺🇸
I like the movie for what it is. Its confronting but its a movie. Also people absolutely do make mistakes.
The film itself is good. I don't think there will ever be an accurate film about punks or skins etc. I always felt the violence and peer pressure was a legit part of the bonehead experience. The parties in the film are extremely legit. Also, we didn't really have the anti Asian contingent in the US when this came out, there surely is now. I knew WP skins like this in the day. I feel the story of Hando & Davey suffered from the jealous over the strange gf angle, and was the worst part of the film. The end is accurate to me, the drowning & stabbing. As everyone who watched this in the day knew, it was an anti-bonehead film. A bunch of us Trad skins went to see this in the theatre, and no one was hyped to go kill, kill, kill. The way that G. Wright got them all together pre-film and worked them into acting like a gang was a thoughtful thing to do. I felt sad for Davey and avenged for Hando. I also recognized some Trad skin groups acting similar, back then as a teen. You can say it's a WP movie, but I feel it's a semi true telling of how the scene was in the 80s/90s. Extremely violent & senseless in general. Nonetheless I enjoyed this film, esp Russell Crowe drinking milk in his tighty whiteys after the party 😅 but that's a personal thing. I hate the painted on tattoos the most. I think Russell Crowe was brave to do this film, prior he had played a young gay man. He was really looking to grow as an actor. Finally, I was wearing Fred Perry, bombers and following lace code way before this came out. If it informed idiots, that's just a sad side effect. 😢
Very well put and appreciated 👊😎🏴☠️
Are you people really comparing Trump winning to Romper Stomper????
Some trump derangement syndrome on this channel. Don't forget that conservatism is the new counterculture friends!
the hell are you on about??? lol, at least a couple of the people in this video voted for Trump, and they're still my friends. I don't cry about Trump winning... you're a goofy
clearly you have never watched my channel. And no, just because Joe Rogan said some dumb shit, doesn't make it so
The boot lace (to the best of my knowledge from my dad) is yellow! It's for SHARPs (skinheads against racial prejudice) for those who know and follow lace code
Lace whatever your willing to defend..
Red laces out here usually meant Neo Fascist.. Bonehead types..
White laces.. was Skinhead..
Like I said.. whatever you are willing to stand up for.. it's on you..
Cheers from a 51 year old Traditional Skinhead...
Oi Oi Oi from Westminster CA 🇺🇸..
P.s.never understood SHARP.. why the label . If that patch makes you feel better . Then go for it . Defend it .
There's a curious tendency to vehemently disavow art that isn't explicitly moralistic, representing values that the viewer espouses. Perhaps saturation in explicitly political art can lead to people developing an expectation that any art they encounter should be an easily digestible political statement. The problem with this is that it undermines the freedom of the artist to pursue the aesthetics, the poetry, the raw energy, of the art, without being the political mouthpiece of the culture.
Not all art is propaganda. Anton Chigurh got away with it. Does Cormac McCarthy endorse his actions? Do the directors of slasher films support murder?
Australia is extremely cosmopolitan. Especially Melbourne.
Having a negative critique against an artists work doesn’t disavow their artistic freedom. The movie was already made. Criticism cannot affect it now.
Even in general, negative criticism won’t take away some one’s freedom to make an asinine mess of a movie that aims to destroy the sanctity of multiple communities.
It actually punishes creatives for being intellectual and talented, and putting effort into not pandering nor making lowest common denominator works
How do my feelings feel? Rather flaccid framing but otherwise interesting subject and chat. Cheers
i rember when this came out i was in seattle and like all the skins came back to my bros house after opening night all night better then clockwork orange ya this is just what happened to most crews like bash that one actor was killed 6 moths later also the movie is made by sharps
What movie was made by SHARP skins, Romper Stomper? No it wasn't. It was written and directed by Geoffrey Wright. Based losely on a racist dude from Australia.
The first part of your comment doesn't make sense, either, so I'm not 100% what you meant. I appreciate you watching the video tho ✌️
You should feel Blessed...or Gladiator....doesn't happen...Soy Much?
??? I don't know what your comment means. Can you articulate yourself a bit better, please?
Interesting conversation. I can only image the poor musicians that had their work co-opted in such a heinous manner. You can't be held responsable for the action of IDIOTS.
100% true
John Clifford.. is credited for the songs..
The hilarious one's..
Years ago.. all kinds of misinformation about who/which band of bands recorded these songs..
Cheers from Orange County California 🇺🇸..
When I was young I liked the movie now that I'm older complete opposite
"That place is incredibly Caucasian........ they're gonna behave like animals if you let them".........wtf does that mean?
Not 100% with no context, don't know who said it or what it was referring to. Could have just been a dumb ass comment, too. Got a time stamp?
@@thepunkrockreview Bottom right window at 22 mins 39 seconds in.
American History X is basically the American remake. Same message.
No it’s not. American history X isn’t a full on racists wet Dream. Try again.
It's a Prison movie..
And a reflection on the W-P movement... loosely.. on the Southern California Neo Fascist Bonehead scene..
One of the Most interesting things shown,, also the most dangerous type of Neo Fascist!..
The Girlfriend!!..
I grew up with more than a few friends, who have done time...
(Woods) And Neo Fascist.. who .. like most.. to survive, you better keep to your race...
It's a thing..
After prison...
Most married to Hispanic/Latinas...