Windows 10 Feature Updates and Extended Support
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- Windows 10 loses support on October 14, 2025. So why is Microsoft opening up the beta channel for Windows 10 again? It turns out they're planning some feature updates. We have also gotten some great news regarding extended support for Windows 10. Maybe there's a few more years of life left in Windows 10.
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I don't plan on paying a dime to Microsoft for an extended support. And I don't plan to switch to 11 either! In a year or so, my dual boot might just turn into a single boot. The idea is not set in stone yet, but chances are high though.
FACTS
If your computer can run virtual machines, you could run Windows 10 in a VM with a "host only" network so it isn't exposed to the Internet. I've done that with Windows XP so I can run Office 2003, and the combo is wicked fast with only 2 cores and 1GB RAM.
I already left, all my games work and I'm not tied to "needed for work" anymore. So much easier these days.
@@GoonyMclinux It is, really! My main OS has been Linux since RedHat was a free distro.
After all these years though, I still can't fathom how to run Windower + FFXI under linux. It's the Windower part, the launcher, that seems to be the problem.
Other than that, it looks like Mint that I'm using today doesn't provide drivers for my HOTAS I'm using to fly in MSFS. This can be fixed with drastic measures, I suppose : change HOTAS or change distro.
Those 2 are literally the only reason I'm still having Windows10 on my computer :)
@@javaman4584 Do you think there will be any risk to using a win 10 computer on the internet after 2025?
0:26 no more feature updates? Just security updates? Finally. It is better if the OS just works than "putting a steering wheel to the trunk".
Not only that, he's promoting the insider program. "Hey everyone, want to be a windows beta tester? I'll tell you how to do it without a Microsoft account!"
And that is how 7 was. It just worked and the gui was intuitive, W8-W11 is not very efficient
Apparently CoPilot will becoming to W10
@@GHOSTSTARSCREAM NOT ON MINE.
@@claycassin8437 Mine neither, since I'm running Ubuntu
I dont think its old computers holding people back . My PC is perfectly capable of the upgrade, but I have no desire to do it . For what ? If it aint broke , dont break it
the saying actually goes "if it ain't broke don't fix it" lol
@@sumbodee3 really? I never heard that ......
I like mine better
At my age, Win 10 will see me out.
I've tried Win 11 and still go back to my Win 10.
Honestly, most of the difference is the start menu and taskbar. Which can be fixed with explorerpatcher or startallback
@@XTaskPassX Windows 11 is just a fresh coat of unneeded paint for Windows 10. It's made to appeal to the next generation of people, also basically a smart system, and of course I know Windows 10 is spyware, 11 just tacks more on.
I use Windows 10 LTSC Iot, it has support until 2032, it has the lowest mouse latency and works perfectly.
@@GeorgeCardoso-mh2ei What is 10 LTSC version? Thanks
@@ethimself5064Just Google Windows 10 LTSC
I really miss the days of Windows 2000 Pro. No activation or telemetry crap. Those were good times. I'm still using Windows 7 from time to time.
I was planning to switch back to Windows 7, once October 2025 comes along but Steam put an end to that for me as I would lose access to my games. I'm holding out for someone to come along with a work around to trick Steam into thinking it's on Windows 10 or 11, then I'll switch back to Windows 7 in a heartbeat.
Windows 2000 was the last good version of Windows, even if it was just NT with more bloat.
MS has been through this many times before... Win98 SE, Win7 and now Win10. You'd think they'd learn what their user base wants and yet they keep forcing changes into the users that only MS wants.
I keep seeing where Microsoft keeps telling the 70% of people that are still using Windows 10 that you need to hurry up and upgrade to Windows 11 before Windows 10 support stops in a year. They're having a hard time understanding why they're are still 70% of Windows users using Windows 10. They are morons, because they can't understand the fact that these 70% of people are using older computers (not ancient) that run Windows 10 beautifully and does everything they wanted it to do. Windows 11 even though it will still run on these computers just fine will not install if it does not meet certain criteria which includes a new enough CPU and has TPM hardware certification. Completely unnecessary for both of those. So they're telling 70% of people that they need to go spend $1,000 on a new computer just so they can use the newer Windows 11 making Microsoft happy. I have heard and read articles that Windows 11 is not all that impressive of an upgrade from Windows 10. I have four computers in my house all running Windows 10 beautifully, three of them will not upgrade to Windows 11 because of their older hardware which is stupid. Only my newest gaming/editing computer can and so far I refuse to. Everything since COVID is three times the price at least and they want people to go dump this money on a new computer for the sake of Windows 11. They are just stupid.
My linux PC came with win 11 before i put Pop OS on it. . I don't really know the benefit of 11 over 10. I still run 10 on my main PC.
I know right? I've upgraded my older systems from Win10 to Win11 and I actually can't tell th e difference.
Microsoft telling us to upgrade with a photograph.
I will share that pic in few hours
Good comment and I agree with everything you said. Being a Senior and having 3 Win 10 systems, I don't want to bump up to Windows 11. Plus I don't want to get that so called RECALL feature that records everything we do on the computer.
Take care.
I should never have switched to Windows 11. Please do not make the same mistake.
Go back!
You should be able to re-install Windows 10 without any issues. I upgraded one of my laptops to Windos 11. Had to force update it because my laptop doesn' support it, in fact none of the computers at my home support Windows 11. After a few months of using it I got fed up with it and put Windows 10 back on.
Windows 11 Is Pre-Built In My PC :(
At least I have windows 10 pc that does not meet minimum requirements for windows 11
It’s the intel pentium gold processor that is the problem
If they’d stop adding more and more things people dislike to Windows 11, maybe more people would transition to it.
True. However, M$ has made it clear that they want their "operating system" to completely transition to a network marketing and targeted advertising platform. If Win11 can't be pushed onto a sufficient portion of the market, they can simply slide those "features" into Win10 at some point. Their intent is clear, however they end up pursuing it. It's time to move to an alternative like Linux.
What more and more new things are they adding that people are hating?
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus some telemetry? Or maybe telemetry? Oh, did I mention telemetry?
More Candy Crash in PRO (PROFESSIONAL!!!!!) version of windows? With other trash apps in the same pack.
@@Gelonyrum When Windows 10 was released, it came with Candy Crush Saga pre-installed for those who upgraded to or downloaded Windows 10 during the launch. So, if you were rocking Windows 10 back then, you probably had a taste of those colorful candies right out of the box!
Windows 11 didn’t continue the tradition of pre-installing Candy Crush Saga, but you can still get your candy-crushing fix by downloading it from the Microsoft Store.
I have never played Candy Crush, but tons of people do.
As for Telemetry,
During installation, you can limit some telemetry but for more, do this;
Using the Settings Menu (Windows 11):
Open the Start menu and click the Settings icon.
Navigate to Privacy & security and then Diagnostics & feedback.
Expand the Diagnostic data option and toggle off the Send optional diagnostic data setting
-------------OR/AND---------------
Open the Start menu and search for “Services.”
Select Services (Desktop app).
Find Connected User Experiences and Telemetry.
Right-click it and select Properties.
Change the Startup type to Disable
-------------OR/AND---------------
If using the Professional version of Windows,
Press Win + R, type gpedit.msc, and click OK.
Under Computer configuration, expand Administrative Templates and Windows components.
Select Application Compatibility and then Turn off application telemetry.
Choose to disable or enable application telemetry and click Apply and OK
A couple clicks later, reboot and check your network packets, if you know how.
I won't switch because it's fundamentally flawed. Just the UI itself has changed too much. And the privacy nightmare is something on which they're not gonna budge.
Since most Win 10 computers are not compatible with Win 11, there is no way I am buying a new computer just to get a new operating system which which has features which I will never use.
Their CPU requirements are idiotic. I have a Xeon W-2140b. It was made OEM for Apple, along with another Xeon of the W-21xx line. Microsoft supports the line, but not those two non-retail CPUs.
i can kinda understand that they sort some rly old hardware out too make maintaining more easy specially cuz some old prcessors dont understand new instruction models wich are more efficent...but this high levels are rly idiotic....specially when u consider that they first wanted to just do everything after 9 or 10th generation and then recognized their own surface laptops still use 7th gen...so magically they decided to support the 7th gen aswell...
@@timramich Did you even try the CPU with the registry entry that avoids CPU check during install? I've done it on a few machines and the install goes through and the operation is what you expect.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus I have never even tried Windows 11, and I will not try it. First off, I am not hacking it to install it on hardware that isn't supported. I am not installing a TPM chip to use my OS. I am not going to be using unsupported hardware just to have updates disabled at a whim (which is what they say COULD happen if you do you unsupported hardware). I am not using an OS that I constantly have to battle to stop spying on me. To dodge bullets of AI thrown at me from every angle.
@@timramich yeah, I can see you got some issues there. Good luck. 👍
ok, hear me out: if its needed a lot of money (from Microsoft) to support a operating system. why make another one when the previous was good enough to everyone?
Computers and computer languages are progressing in what they can perform. Advancement that shouldn't be stopped.
People don't want to just accept what their grandparents used to do and live like them. Life is not static, Everything changes except for God, death and taxes.
If you don't want change nor see it as opportunity, that's your personal decision. Opportunity doesn't happen when everything is static and unchanging.
Take advantage of the future.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus Or maybe Win-11 is a better platform technically to progress their agenda re: spyware, bloatware, compulsory ads, Bitlocker on by default (OMG!) & all the rest, than Win-10. H/W manufs would probably love it too if it forces us to junk all the perfectly good h/w. Shame about the planet. But that's not their problem
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus And landfills are full of technology that was crap. Either poorly calculated or just plane junk someone put out to make a quick buck. Not everything new is good. And when you're a monopoly, they don't have to give a damn.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesusya windows users hate the concept of updates & they always have lol
@@anthonytitone because the 'updates' are fake features with a sales pitch and a data collection EULA.
The fact you can't upgrade many old Windows 10 computers to 11 is a deal breaker. Not everyone is able to go out and buy a new computer because Microsoft wants to increase their invasion of your privacy.
Why upgrade when my Win 10 system is extremely stable and does everything I need? I tried Win 11 but saw no point to it and went back to 10.
Windows 11 looks very much like 10 and you can't hardly tell the difference if the start menu looks the same. I'll assume you just got hung up on the start menu issue.
exactly, there is no benefit and for some people, there is actually downsides to it, for me, i need my taskbar on the top or the sides because my monitor is messed up which only win10 can do (and still having good security)
@@fsafdshiuasdh I hear ya, a messed up monitor is no fun. You might consider saving up for two side by side monitors. Once you have two monitors, you'll never go back.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus i do but it’s really bad, got from side of road
@@fsafdshiuasdh LOL, don't you know by now three things you never do at the side of the road?
1. Eat Road Kill
2. Pickup women standing around
3. Take and use discarded monitors.
😅
Update to windows 11 or piracy are the only options?
I would expect a Linux mention, like: "Or Not using windows anymore and get Linux. No licenses, no piracy, less bloat, more privacy."
yup, and I'll go old school and build from source like I used to, but there are still exploits which affect the doofus users out there that have qa lazy way of using the machine..
Every single video I've seen talking about 10's end of life and 11's /many/ problems inevitably has all sorts of comments about switching to Linux. After trying it myself, if my brother needed to he could switch rather easily since he only uses a browser, a text editor, and sometimes modded minecraft. They've pretty much gotten booting up and launching programs down pat, just as easy as windows or any other OS.
However if you've got a lot of technical knowledge on windows and you want to do the same things on Linux, be prepared for frustration, as the security and permissions mean /sooo/ many things take extra steps to do, and I find any errors that popup aren't always very specific and you might have to try to find the logfiles or something or just blindly try stuff until it works or more often just opening a terminal and running it with sudo. I've even had a few instances where the thing I tried /seemed/ to work, but in reality failed silently with no error message. And sometimes even /when/ I manage to get something working, whether it'll /keep/ working the next time I reboot is up in the air.
You guys are so cute for thinking you have privacy on your computers or devices. Meanwhile over at the DoD/FBI/CIA we have access to every single thing you do on any device you own the second it connects to the internet, and sometimes even if it doesn't. ;)
Linux is a good operating system but if it really intends to sway users on the fence it’s going to have to step up it game big time I mean 90% of windows users DO NOT want to type anything into the command prompt and I have to say from experience if something doesn’t go right in "Linux’s windows" you have no choice but to install apps via the cl and it’s not ’fun’
@@earl_gray I have the KDE desktop, and it is far from old fashioned. In fact there are hundreds of themes you can apply to make it look how you want it. You can even make it look exactly like Windows 11 lol. As for Linux showing it's age, well that's nonsense. Kernels are continuosly updated to support the latest hardware and my Nvidia card drivers perform almost as well as they do on Windows. Given that the games are actually running through the Proton compatibility layer, this is remarkable. However one of the pluses of Linux, is that you can find a distro that will run on just about any old hardware, so perhaps that's what you've been using?
Tbh I've been dreading every feature update for windows 10 for years now since it just gets worse. Just getting security updates is the optimal windows experience
I was glad when it stopped with 22H2. Hopefully they aren't thinking of pushing any of that AI crap onto Windows 10 in future.
Here's the thing. The majority of Windows users do not want Windows 11. The proof is in the numbers. The best thing to do is... NOTHING. If people refuse to switch, and they refuse to buy PCs with Windows 11 on them, and they refuse to pay Microsoft for extended support.. they will have no choice but to continue support. Personally, I am on Linux now, but I do have a couple Windows 10 installations for occasional use. There are most likely even less Windows 11 users than they realize. I still have a Windows 11 PC listed on my MS account and I nuked that months ago. I am certain there are many more ghosts they are confusing with real computers. We the consumers have the leverage right now. What does Windows 11 have? Maybe 20% of the market?
It kinda makes sense since the regular Joe can't upgrade their old laptop to Windows 11 because of the TPM requirements. And I'm pretty sure you can't upgrade the TPM on laptops. that's why Windows 11 has a small user base
Didn't work with 7 and won't work with 10
@@UltraCenterHQthey can install it. THEY DON'T WANT TO... i installed W11 even on 2600K, and it was kinda stable and running good. But i don-t use it regular, and i don t use MS accounts.
Remember when Microsoft said that windows 10 would be the last version ever, just rolling updates. Now we have version 11 and 12 on its way.
@@robertpettit6619No I don't remember. Where did they say that?
When you say, " I made a video right here..." at the end, there was nothing there.✌😎
I would sooner switch to Linux than use windows 11.
I am moving over to Linux and eventually moving over to Windows LTSC IoT to be my Windows OS platform for everything I can't get to run under Linux.
When I was told I had to upgrade my hardware if I wanted to use Win 11, that was the sign I have ZERO interest in upgrading. Now with the new info coming out about the total abuse of privacy in Win 11 I am sold that I will NEVER eve consider upgrading to it! I am officially done with Microtrash after Win 10! As for the insider program, I will NEVER sign up for that because there is absolutely NOTHING useful to the OS they can gain from knowing what browser I use and what I am accessing online and that for whatever reason is the most important information they want and we should all be asking why and what is so critical to the OS stability they need to know what I browse and do online is?
Linux
You're beating a straw horse to death. They don't care what you browse for or are looking for online. You're not important and what you're looking for is not important. You probably confused nonidentifiable Telemetry data with the desire for personal data.
They are annoying my windows 10 after each update they automatically defaults my browser to ms edge.
@@WilliamHollinger2019 normally I help you with that problem cuz I got plenty of clients who are on Windows 10 and don't have that problem. But I'm running Windows 11 and using Chrome whike windows Edge isn't affecting me at all.
Oh no... All I want is security updates. Hope none of that AI bs makes it way into the win10 updates.
It might if you upgrade your edge browser.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus I can just not use the app, while I cannot just stop using an operating system 😑
@@vinny5915 Obviously, that's why you don't use or upgrade the Edge app. Besides, the AI is not currently baked into the OS. For one, I do hope AI is always available, it has helped me so much I can't see myself without it.
I think the biggest problem is that Windows 11 upgrade isn't compatible with many older systems, which is silly.
I had 11 one, and immediately uninstalled it, and installed 10 instead. :p
I don't think I will switch to Win 11 until I absolutely HAVE to. I would LOVE to switch to Linux, but I like gaming and modding those games and Windows just offers much better support for that. I hate Windows 11, I used it for a week and couldn't stand how they removed basic functionality from the file explorer, start menu, taskbar. They need to extend support for MUCH longer than Oct. 2025
You'll have to cough up for that extra 3 years of Windows 10 support, but even then you'll be forced to move onto the next version of Windows afterwards.
im at win 11 now im thinking about going back to win 10 !!!
Lol.
Go for Linux instead of rubbish Win
@@Viggen66 I'll get rid of Windows after I get done playing my rubbish Cyberpunk 2077, and Smite 2.0 and a ton of other fun games.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus i got to many games to go with linux
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus most of them run fine with Proton, as with same performance as Windows Peer.
I'm not going to 11 because I'm 80 years old and not going to buy new hardware. I don't do much on the computer except need an office program and be able to get on the internet so I went with Linux Mint. Pretty easy to use but lots of upgrades. I don't know what they are talking about, I just install the upgrades and everything keeps working.
I've been slacking on doing this, but I REALLY want to create a video discussing Windows 11.
Microsoft really screwed the pooch on this one. I think Microsoft's requirements for 4GB of RAM, 64GB storage, TPM 2.0, and two or more cores is great put their arbitrary CPU requirements, having a Microsoft Account during setup, and their push for AI has made Windows 11 so damn unappealing.
If they supported older CPUs like Intel's 6th Gen and allowed these features to be "opt in" like Windows 10 (roughly) was Microsoft would have a better adoption rate I bet.
Microsoft's Minimum requirements for Windows 10 and Windows 11 is so meager that it is not entirely useful. Even the most basic computers nowadays exceed those requirements.
You don't have to create a personal Microsoft account during setup, you can put in a fake email address or login name and a fake password, once it boots create the local account and delete the Microsoft account. Done.
You also don't have to use the AI, which I find incredibly useful. Simply don't use Edge or just uninstall Edge.
Also if you're upgrading a Windows 10 machine to Windows 11 and the CPU is not supported the fix is just a simple registry addition and install will complete.
Make a video on these features.
I think they're smarting from the refusal of Recall
Microsoft is releasing some updates for w10, to destroy it, exactly how they made with w7 (searching for updates forever problem) . 😢 Adding telemetry, and all kind of stuff to disturb users, with the hope they will transition to 11. Hope they follow Adobe soon. 🙏
Goodbye, Microsoft. It was a wild and frustrating ride for nearly thirty years. Take care.
Windows 10 wasn't supposed to go anywhere. It's scaleable enough to be around for a lot longer than they are giving it.
Windows 10 name was just a moniker. The operating system was always going to be changed under the hood, progressing and brought into the future. That was the idea not to put money into advertising a new release when it was a new release already under the hood over time.
The new management felt otherwise.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus You can find the original version of windows 10 on the archive, I put it on a virtual machine. Pretty interesting just how different it was. We are already basically on a different operating system before windows 11.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus I remember when a of my old games worked on Windows 10 when it first came out. Now I can't even install them as I get the message that the OS doesn't support it. I ended up installing Windows XP on VMWare to get all my old software working again.
Iif Microsoft was smart they would have built an XP mode or Windows 7 mode for Windows 10, only have it run natively in the background so you wouldn't even notice that an old piece of sotware you're installing or using is running through a virtual machine or have the hassle of setting Windows XP/7 up to do it.
I miss the old Microsot from the 90s/2000s. it's obvious that they gave up on building their OS to support old sotware once they released Windows 7, as Window XP can run every single piece of software that was built for Windows 3.11 onwards. I don't buy the excuse of them needing to change things to keep up with newer hardware because they always managed to do it in the past.
@@4TheRecord Your old games might have worked in compatibility mode. If not, know that Win 10 cannot run 16bit programs. You might note that while 32-bit applications are supported, 16-bit binaries or 32-bit drivers are not supported on 64-bit versions of Windows. If a program relies on 16-bit binaries or 32-bit drivers, it won’t run on 64-bit Windows unless the program’s manufacturer provides an update for the program.
Natively means running directly on hardware, not through an OS. You can't have two operating systems running natively at the same time.
The costs related to keeping backwards compatibility alive in an advancing OS and hardware environment is not worth the time, beyond what they already offer.
Windows 11 has a built-in virtual machine for one time use only.
There's really no hassle with making a virtual machine under virtualbox back in Windows 7 days and just keeping the file. It will always boot into virtualbox with no changes so you have all those games until you die with no further work on your part.
Also, remember our CPUs are 64bit so attempting to run 16 or 32 bit code can be problematic if not impossible based on other variables. MacOS Catalina and up strictly does not run 32bit code since 5 years ago, but Microsoft still supports it.
@SpaceCadet4Jesus you are correct. If im not mistaken, Windows 11 happened bc of a change in executive management. If that didn't happen, Windows 10 was the last OS for Microsoft. I wish I had the article with me. And Windows 10 was quite different back in 2015
Goodbye Windows, Hello Linux.
Nah. Linux sucks.
@@kaleidoscopeon Not as much as Windows 11 lol. 😆
I am wondering what is the big difference between 10 and 11? Only a couple of visual things and some services that is not really needed. So keeping W10 updated is not that difficult because even when you look at it, a lot of the things are coming from W7 like some menu's and settings. It's just to make people buy a new computer.
We are all slaves to a Pharaoh, building Green Pyramids to Mars
🤣🤣🤣
We are making a pyramid of collected data to pharaoh Microsoft.
To Pluto. ( Sarcasm )
An option not mentioned is switching to Linux, now, I am not gonna push Linux down anyone's throat, just mentioning it as an available option
It's only for very certain type of people. If you love to Tinker with your OS, if you don't want to play the biggest name games, if you're more of a typing commands than a Mouse click kind of person, etc... Then there are more than plenty versions of Linux to use.
Although Linux is not mentioned in this video there's more than enough videos that mention it even from this channel.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus That's why I worded my comment the way I did, not that its the only route, simply that its there, plus, gaming on Linux is as good as it is on Windows, minus things with specific anti cheat. Plus, there are distros where its plug and play, no tinkering required
@@ashleyrose. I wish Linux was as good on gaming as Windows is. Some games are effortless to install and run just like it is in Windows, other games need special configurations, and some don't work worth a damn. Linux is always been behind in the graphics department from its Inception. X11 promised a lot of things, but it was just too difficult to deliver. That's not to say you can't play games on Linux but you have to see whether they are supported without wine, or others necessary software.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus give Proton GE a try with Lutris, it’s seamless
All my games work, I don't understand people's fascination with everything ever working on linux, everything doesn't even work on windows 11. 😂@@SpaceCadet4Jesus
Thanks for a good video! Your desktop pic on your test system is great. Post it up somewhere for us, maybe?
Nadella's Microsoft making a smart move with Windows? Nah, I can't believe it....
I have used every home version of Windows. I now use Windows 11, and I like it yes I needed a new laptop but my last one was purchased in 2012. Linux is not an option as the learning curve is very steep and most want Windows compatibility. Apple is not an option either as you would also need new hardware and any repairs are a nightmare.
If you like Windows 11, then no need to look at any alternative. 🙂
What’s the bet the new features are the ones we didn’t want in windows 11.
Considering their current focus and the last things they added to Windows 10, I'm not sure we should assume a "feature update" will be a good thing. They could just as easily litter Windows 10 with more copilot stuff and ads in the start menu and stuff in the weather/widgets panel. Or they could just change random stuff to make it worse to make the jump to windows 11 be like a "might as well" conclusion
A future update that they're doing that should be well received is moving the entire control panel into their settings page and then allowing us to sort the settings panel alphabetically.
Guys we gotta get windows 10 to 69% market share!
I agree with you but microsoft could also lower some requirements for windows 11 like tpm and processor requirements because you can run windows 11 on unsupported hardware and works just fine so then they wouldn't have all the issues and missed off windows users
Hi, Great video, thanks for all this videos that you do on 10 and 11. By the way the link to that other video didn't appear, can you let us know its title so we can go find it? Cheers
I understand MS wanting to start from a fresh(er) codebase for W11. However, they should have made the interface and features as close as possible to W10 to get adoption. W11 (I use at work) is still missing many small but important QOL features (desktop toolbar on the taskbar, actual menus in File Explorer, full context menu in File Explorer, toggle using tabs in File Explorer, choosing audio output device from the taskbar volume icon - to name a few) that W10 has that I'd rather not give up, thank you much.
Windows 10 was the final version of Windows;at least thats how it was sold
They will have to lower the hardware requirements for windows 11 or there is going to be a class action lawsuit. The majority of computers will still be on 10 by then. I got past the hardware requirements on a virtual machine just to see if I could, but the vast majority of users are never going to do that.
End of life windows 10 in 2025 is funny while the rest of 68% market is windows 10.
Yeah
And I think if windows 10 keep at least 51% of the market until to October 2025, they will add others 5 years to the service... Or I hope so
Personally part of the appeal of Windows 10 22H2 (for me anyway) is that they've/they'd stopped messing with it with "feature updates" that add more unnecessary junk that no one asked for (like Co Pilot or Recall).
If they start reversing that now it'll probably accelerate my deciding whether to try and migrate away completely to some variant of Linux - not something that I particularly relish. I've been a Windows guy since Windows 3.1/NT both personally and professionally but I am not a fan of where they're taking the OS in the last few releases with built in ads, telemetry, demands for online accounts etc.
If the Linux community could get its act together and standardise on one "default" choice that would be a big start. My other issue is trying to find a replacement for the Server-Client model offered by Active Directory. If I could do that and replace my Server 2019-Windows 10 home domain then I'd be very tempted.
I like how there wasnt an advertised ESU for Windows 8 because it was so horrible MS didnt even want to work on it
This is why I just went to Nobara Linux. Love it!!!!!
I'm the laziest man in Linux, so Nobarba is great for me.🤣
One of these days, someone will create a viable alternative to Microsoft shoving whatever it wants down our throats. And those who care will gladly switch.
I’m sure we’re going to get a 25H2 release of Windows 10 with special feature enhancements that make windows 11 look awesome. Hopefully we will have a beta channel available for Windows 12 by that point.
I have now installed Zorin OS, works flawlessly.
Ah another zorin os enjoyer. I love how you can make it look like windows or even apple oses
Unrelated to the video, but I find it funny how I know your intro tune music. I also watch City Planner Plays and he uses "Cats Walking" for the outro of his videos haha
In light of the Windows 10 end of life, I bought a refurbished PC, and made the decision a few weeks back to switch back to Linux. I used Linux for a good few years before having to change to Windows 10 (due to needing one software package) , but these days, I can run the odd program in a VM.
I hope at least one of the incoming new "feature updates" for W10 bring a fully 100% working Dark Theme since it´s original was never fixed and remains as a half finished job, time to get back to work M$!.
The thing is they stopped making an Operating System and transformed it into a marketing bot that is getting worse and worse, taking away control from the user of their own hardware. That's why more and more people stay on older versions until there is no option left. Linux is a plan B, but sadly M$, their dominance on the market and the way they work with hardware corporations sometimes makes it very difficult to switch to Linux. That and the learning curve that may be an issue too.
There isn't a damn chance I'm going to windows 11. That garbage can rot it hell. I hope they do a wind8/win10 situation where 8 is so bad they make a proper version next
Good news! I hope you let us know when they are starting to add features. I wouldn't pay more than $15 a yr for this. There are a gazillion private windows 10 users, that makes a lot of money for them.
If I had my way I'd still be using W7
All interesting news and hopefully some interesting features ahead though it does seem the thin end of the wedge to yearly fees for windows ,btw do you have any way to stop windows incessantly trying to update outlook to the new version?
None there's no other way, the way I see it any MS product,no matter originality, will always be hooked on Windows updates, the only option is 3rd party softs or picking the peg-leg
They are the one making it nearly impossible for some to make the change to Windows 11, make the TMP 2.0 and CPU restrictions or requirements and BAM They will get their wish.
Lets see if you can help me out with a windows 10 problem. When you have created a folder and have assorted file types in it and and taken the tick off Autoarrange. Then set files up in a certain way. This setup does not stay when you move away from said folder whereas in XP you could reboot and it would remember the way files where arranged. Can you help out ?
Considering the cost of ESU in the past I'll stick with Linux now that I've gone ahead and moved my main machine over.
I'm waiting to see if Win 12 is acceptable before switching from Win 10. I keep reading that Win 11 is a dissater.
You're reading it from the wrong places. From launch until even today, it's a highly stable better running system than Windows 10. The only people that are saying Windows 11 is a disaster are naysayers trying to get you to run something else.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus I think calling Win11 more stable than Win10 gets you a tard award.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus and the only people singing its praises are Microsoft Shills... so yea
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus Windows 10 was a peerfectly stable operating system that conveniently only ever started giving me problems a year after 11 came out.
@@mpf1947 I bet you I could have fixed those problems and returned your Windows 10 to the same stable operating system it always was.
The i7-6700K which doesn't have windows 11 support is exactly the same as the i7-700K which does! So the answer is is for microsoft to lower the system spec for windows 11, even down to the sandy bridge CPU's.
Many of the system files will require the POPCNT CPU instruction from the Windows 11 kernel to the USB XHCI drivers, meaning that any processors without it cannot run the operating system. If Sandy CPUs cannot support this then, No Go.
POPCNT was made standard in CPUs in the mid-2000s starting from AMD's Barcelona architecture, followed by Intel's first-gen Core i-series processors.
This means that PCs manufactured in the past 15 years shouldn’t be affected by this new Windows 11 requirement. It also shouldn’t affect modern PCs unsupported by the OS, so those who've managed to find a workaround would still be able to run Windows post-update.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus Sandy Bridge has POPCNT support, but Core2 users are out of luck.
My i7-7700 doesn't support Win11, so the update page tells me. Perhaps it's my MB, but even still, good luck finding a functional MB of this generation. I'm afraid this machine is just going to move across to the penguin world, I'll leave the Windows 11 playing on my work computer only.
@@KegRaider My asus z170 is fitted with a TPM module and the only check that fails windows 11 is the cpu. I'm not about to buy a 7700k to test.
Plot twist: they'll force Windows Recall into Windows 10 and make it optional for Windows 11 for a while. And then once everyone switches to 11 because of that, they'll stop Windows 10 and make it required for Windows 11. Subscribe for more ideas!
The prospect of Recall prompted me to move my remaining Windows PC to Linux. For me, gaming works now, and that was really the last thing that held me back. I don't claim it's for everyone, but I think this switch will stick.
I have PCs everywhere, which were all running Windows 10. I upgraded my 'Media' PC under the TV to windows 11 and hated it. That was eventually wiped with Ubuntu, from there I've changed my Mame PC to Linux, and my bedroom PC to Linux too. My laptops went to Linux from Windows 10. The only PC still running Windows 10 is my gaming PC. Once you get a handle on Linux it's just a delight to use. I have a list of all the apps I install and made a note of the commands needed to install each one. You quickly discover that installing apps is much easier than on Windows - you don't have to go hunting through websites to find the right download, wait for it to download, run the file, click through endless screens. Just a single command and everything is taken care of. Fab. For me, the key was to begin my journey into Linux on a machine that didn't matter. Once I figured out how to install everything I wanted, that was it. The whole Recall thing is terrifying - Microsoft have shown their true colours there. No thank you.
I've been on it for 3 years now and never looked back. I have a win10 vm with passthru just for programming my keyboard and mouse. Outside of that I never see it at home. Valves investment in proton really helped out to get me there.
@@bradmiles1984 As much as I hated Valve/Steam when they first got involved in Gaming DRM back in the day, anyone using Linux for gaming today owes them a hearty Thank You.
Guess we'll have to wait and see. Personally, I'm happy in my debloated & customized Windows 11 OS. But I respect those who wish to stick to W10!
Same here. Debloated and customized Windows 11. That describes my system too. And I respect those on 10, they like what they have, the system is stable, and they have no desire to move. That's how I feel about my system on 11. Not looking forward to 12 and all the forced AI macaroni they're going to try to make us eat.
@@davemail Yup! I've actively blocked all A.I. bs in my 11 built and it's super fast and lightweight! I like AI as a tech, but not imbedded into my very OS, scrap that crap! Prefer it on a separate device!
Yeah I prefer it
@@DS6Prophetyou're not going to get AI on a separate device apart from an operating system that must be booted.
I find the AI to be hugely useful, and wished we could have had this decades ago. Unfortunately I was born too early.
I'm also using debloated & customized Windows 11 (AtlasOS) and i like it.
if my computer is still operating next october I will be switch to linux. I have already have used puppy linux
10 and 11 users and I still use 7 it does what I need.
7 in 2024 is mental
just upgrade to linux already.
@@scorpiom8053 To make a comment like that is mental. Windows 7 and Windows XP are still in use in a lot of kiosks. If it works for what you need, use it.
3 years of updates is still cheaper than my terrible VISTA Ultimate copy was ;)
feature updates to make it worse. like the taskbar ads
Computers that can't run Win11 can be upgraded to Linux. Anyway, there are tons of used computers laying around that can run Win11. No need to buy a new one. Win11 just requires certain CPU instruction sets but similar requirements were in every version of Windows.
canit run on i7 7500u
Except for the whole "We hate and refuse to move to Windows 11" thing.
@@franciscohorna5542 it absolutely can. I run my 2 w11 machines on 2nd and 3rd gen i5 cpus. Tpm and cpu requirements are bs. Yyou can go over them. Everyone has to check if their cpu has SSE 4.2 instructionset and popcnt that comes with it and it can run w11.
Oh and ESU has only ever been for banks (way back in the day it was 50K a patch). If you have a machine you cant update you are probably running some sort of industrial kit that you cant use Win11 on. If that's the case you can almost always take that off line or put it on an air gapped network.
Thanks mate used your link to purchase an activation code w10 here in oz only took a couple of minutes yahoooo no more water mark and now I change the display etc
you forgot to undo the insider and feedback
Nice use of the word transition.
If 10 is so popular compared to 11, hopefully 12 will be more like 10 in UX at least. It seems 11 is better in some ways that end users don't have to care about. I've forgotten most comparisons, but one I can't forget is that it required more clicks to do the same stuff.
If I'm doing something thousands of times a day, I don't want to double it. If I click 1000 times, just one more menu deep is 2000 times for the same thing.
Nothing should be buried deeper than they have to be. I don't even use the desktop, they should make it easy, or even possible, to make shortcuts to settings.
Maybe even that shortcut folder that I found on the laptop, but also for pages in the Settings app. Any installed program had a shortcut, or most did, that you could just copy to the desktop. If there are 100 pages in the Settings app, that would be 100 shortcuts on the desktop. I wouldn't mind, I don't use the desktop anyway. I do use the folder inside Explorer, but any folder could do and I just decided to use the Desktop one. The one that I see when all programs are minimised, that version I don't use.
Also make start menu layout easily exportable..I never bothered finding out how to export and import. It also read as if you can't modify the start menu if you import from the export. Maybe that's outdated now. Maybe they wrote it incorrectly or I read it incorrectly.
Hopefully they are not "adding features" that break Win10 so we will have to upgrade to 11.
MS might indeed support W10 past the Oct 25 date because it feels like that a lot of W11 is W10 under the hood or GUI.
Of course it is. It's impossible to write a brand new operating system from scratch every 5 years and make it stable enough for the public.
Not even the Linux distributions do that.
Microsoft really wants uses to use a Microsoft Account, so they recently crated a guide on how to convert from a local account to a Microsoft account
They also have a guide on how to change a Microsoft account into using a local account. I fail to see your point.
If they'd make the security a benefit with newer hardware but allow the win 11 update on other devices, I'd upgrade everything.
I don't want any kind of feature update. There are already too much programs and modules embed in the OS what I have to disable or turn off.
Just fix the easy CVEs and push defender updates, that's it.
ChomeOS is supported on two of my Chromebooks till 2029 and 2030. Might be a better option for a lot of people. I've been using Linux on my main PCs for years, I simply do not require anything that needs to run directly on Microsoft OS and it's FREE.
I've been using PopOS as my daily driver for the past few months and I like it. Although I do have Win 11 running on my business machines. Micro$oft could easily get a lot of people to upgrade to Win 11 if they removed the CPU and TPM restrictions.
Question, if I roll back to windows 10, will it undo any installs or changes since the upgrade?
Likely yes. You'll be the first one to try it out, but I believe it restores your Windows 10 registry which doesn't contain the later install information.
I have put too much time and money upgrades into my older desktop i.e. ram, ssd, nividia g-force ect. I am not going to start over, I will switch ti linux and be happy.
I don't think it was Microsoft that required you to change your RAM your SSD or your video card, unless that computer was extremely ancient.
Do a bit of research and try a few distos first, with a dual boot system. The when Win 10 is EoL, it will make the transition much easier.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus The expect you to upgrade your CPU, and upgrading the motherboard may be required to do that, likely with new RAM required for the new board because DDR5 came down in price so DDR4 slots were discontinued, and now the drivers for your GPU probably don't play nice with the newer hardware they're connected to.
@@ShinyHelmet not sure how to dual boot, sounds interesting-I will look into it. thank-you for your advice.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus you are right, I have a refurbished 2012 h.p. sff desktop. I am on disability and can not afford very much. I could of stayed with the 4 gigs of ram but I wanted it to be faster. and the older amd cpu only supported 720p hence the graphics card , and the disc hard drive ran o.k. but would take 2 and a half to 4 minutes to boot. now it takes less than 1 minute. it is not windows 11 compatible. but runs pretty good now, so whats a guy to do.
OK, one feature i might take, and is Operating System based fan controls and visual temp&fps checks on the screen.
watching on *Windows 7* i still get monthly Malicious updates and everyday microsoft security essentials
have a separate Win 11 for banking or shopping
i have other with dual boots of 10 & 11, Linux
have Snowleopard with Win 7
*Awesome Video*
you can still download any insider builds by connecting directly to your Microsoft account and download the iso right there then after run setup without the need to run any Microsoft account over your OS installation. It was a long one but i rather go that way instead of what's in this vid and have a chance to rip my stability or maybe i've miss somethig ?
Windows 10 is great enough for everyone windows 11 has a lot of security problems eg: spying on users with their screen shot technology also their ms account crap.
Thank you for another, as always, great video! :)
I also like your green Borg alcove electrical charger in the background :)
... And I will stick to Win 10, never Win 11. Ever. I rather use Linux full time. And the price for extended support? H*ll no 69 USD for me, maximum 10 USD per year, perhaps, not sure I will pay anything at all.
And Microsoft "new features" nowadays are nothing I want at all. It was different in the Win 98/XP/7-versions....
Make no mistake, these "feature updates" for Windows 10 are just to get Recall and Copilot on machines that refuse to go to 11.
Speaking of MS Account - every new computer I have seen at my local computer outlets only offer 10 Home. Ticks me off and no need to wonder why🤣
Evidently you don't have a Micro Center in your city.
I think they will attempt to slip Recall Lite into Win10- keep your eye open.
I definitely don't want any feature updates. None. I never even used what thay added.
My hardware is fine for many more years, more than capable of Win 11 yet I can't simply do a Win 11 upgrade in a secured way. If they open up Win 11 updates to capable hardware I'll opt in, but they have to do it, I want ongoing updates and I don't want something they can just switch off at will like the various workarounds.
Your videos are honest and straightforward, thanks for that, I bulit a Windows 11 compatable computer for just under 225. dollars I got paid every two weeks so every payday I bought bits and pieces along the way, shopping discounts of course, I started out big sometimes buying two or three things at one time, then worked my way to a brand new computer, I've been on Windows 11 now for a year and two months, If you do it this way you'll able to put together a computer you want, and control the price you want to pay for it, but it's just a suggestion, I like 11 and dislike everything about the OS you do, Great video thank you.
If you are so techy, you could switch your older system (if you had one) to Linux and probably save yourself most of the $225, if not all.
@@D.von.N I use Mint on a different hard drive, I use Mint on a second hard drive well aware of Linux, thanks.
@@D.von.N The system I built is all new not an older computer, but you're right using Linux would be cheaper on an older system it would be easier to just use an older computer and run Linux, but I wanted to be able to run Windows 11 legitimately
@@D.von.Nan older system likely needs a new faster hard drive, like an SSD because the old drive is slooooww. And an upgrade in Ram won't hurt any computer including Linux one.
@@Paulzpc At the moment I'm running Win 10 and Mint on single drive as dual boot on older laptop. I want to upgrade like you did as cost is an issue for me. Will any mini pc with 2 drive options be able to boot from which ever drive you choose? My pals only boots from main one not spare one.
If we are lucky we could hack the registry to get security updates the same way we could in the Xp days. I had an Xp pro that got security updates until 2019, because the pos ready version of Xp was build on the Xp pro platform.