I expect it won't just be the power users. On Linux (lets use Mint as an example), I can have a copy of firefox to watch all all the cat videos I want and there is a solitaire game. That covers 99.9% of what a computer is really used for and it doesn't need a TPM chip.
Microsoft is fine with that TBH. Windows doesn't exactly make MS that much money. People like your mom and grandma will gladly stay on W10/W11/Whatever Apple Calls their Desktop OS.
The ads SHOULD annoy you. You paid money for Windows 10, even if it came pre-loaded onto your PC when you bought it. Nothing saddens me more to hear people accept ads as part of their daily experience with their computing devices. YOU control what goes into YOUR eyes and ears, not Microsoft, not Google. Man up and adblock.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Very true, They really should, I use adblock on youtube cause of how freaking annoying it is. But to be fair, I have not paid for windows XD. Im using ubuntu way more now.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 I had a nasty time with ads on win10, then I installed Brave and adjusted the advert blocking. Absolutely no adverts since three months ago, and Brave is free. Plus since using it I've had over 30k of ads etc stopped. No adverts anywhere.
As a Linux user I actually agree with a lot of your points here, and I don't pretend Linux is the silver bullet that we want it to be yet, I just got really tired of all the ads, broken code, and straight up data theft
I use linux on lots of my systems... but I can't on my main because the music programs I need don't work (VSTs mostly)... The creative crowd is hostage to windows or MAC
@@teksyndicate that's exactly what I aim to fix personally, a lot on Linux has gotten better overall, but audio issues still plague us, I and who ever is willing to contribute will work on this soon, though don't expect much too quickly, it'll be my first major project after all
@@KCKingcollin well for one thing they should start making huge corporate users pay some kind of user fee , but I suppose they will still then keep ripping the linux community off by clandestinely incorporating open source code in their own proprietary software
Imo Microsoft is on a power trip where they think "we can do whatever we want and you'll use our product anyway because you're dependent on our software". The coercion they put their users through is insane, forcing them to sign into a Microsoft account, making it difficult to add local accounts, locking the UI withoutgiving any option to change it & frequently breaking 3rd party apps that try to let power users customize stuff, excessive telemetry, and syncing all your data into their overprices cloud services, that on top of years of legacy code baggage, inconsistent UI design with like 2 context menus and 3 half-baked settings menus. Ignoring how evil it is, they don't realize that more and more apps are cross platform or have decent open source alternatives. In the short term this stuff works but in the long term they'll lose their audience once everyone finds out it's cheaper and better to just use linux.
@@s1nistr433 The inconvenient truth. They can virtually "behind-hop" millions of users because they - can. Been observing this behaviour since Windows XP and they're not going to stop. Thankfully the process has been very slow, giving Linux developers enough time to make Linux better and more user friendly, which it is for about a decade now, but constantly getting better. One of the things I had to get used to with Linux is updating. Always hated updates on Windows, or changing the OS. Linux Debian, I installed it in 2013 and it's still running perfectly. Went from v7 to v8, v9... v12 throughout years and 3 different hard disks, 2 different computers.
And these replies show exactly how much people have to cope. "Just edit the registry entries". When people have to go around these things in obscure and inconvenient ways, that's a clue Microsoft is fumbling real hard.
@@zeus1117 Forced to use it because my laptop came with it My desktop has Windows 10 even though it came out after Windows 11 came out. It's so much better.
@@coshvjicujmlqef6047 try migrating your windows boot drive (with windows boot manager on uefi) to another drive. It won't boot (giving you those adorable Stop Codes) unless you go through a gazillon loop holes. Windows Boot manager is also about the worst boot manager you can think of. But it's all in the realm of MS making life miserable for power users so they can stuff the new Windows Subscription OS through the throats of "dumb" users.
@@Jafar-dr6to what are you even talking about... If it's the warning about installing the app that's related to Windows Defender. Look at things like Smart Screen it's affected a number of things in the past.
The one that gets me is that Microsoft, with the Windows 11 24H2 update, will be automatically applying Bitlocker encryption for all volumes on your device. Happens during the Windows install process but supposedly when you update an existing 23H2 system to 24H2. I DO NOT want my devices to have Bitlocker encryption on them, I have no need for that to occur and really, really hate that MS is making that an automatic/mandatory thing.
fyi there is a way to turn that off by adding a disabling key in the registry entry for bitlocker (works also during installation via cmd). Mental Outlaw just released a video for that.
@@KangMinseok Yeah, I know of the registry key for that, but I didn't know if that will remain/also apply if doing the update from 23H2 to 24H2. Every article I've been reading about that just talks about it's effectiveness during the Windows install process, not by an update.
Bitlocker screwed me over more often than it saved me. All my important data is on an external encrypted drive anyways. Disabled bitlocker because I was sick of entering the recovery key every few weeks because it decided something must've changed about my hardware after every Windows update.
Your "bad manager" analogy is excellent. I have been using Ubuntu for my writing laptop for years because when I am trying to work on Windows (even Windows 10, but even more so on 11) it felt like trying to concentrate in a daycare center.
I use Archlinux after the whole Ubuntu Amazon partnership unity scopes fiasco. That was Canonical's screw up and they paid dearly for it at the time. Hopefully SteamOS can attract some of the big player and power users to the OS. Hopefully, we have Lord Gaben for a while longer.
@@OctavioGaitan You should be working towards Linux right now. Start by using programs that are available under Linux as alternatives to Windows only programs. It's not the operating system that holds you back, it's if your programs only work on Windows.
I am in tech, working with Windows every single day. I have been growing increasingly disenchanted and frustrated with Microsoft and their non stop manipulation of Windows and their users. Microsoft has become increasingly intrusive and aggressive in their efforts to collect your data.
That's bc the MS revenue model turned to data mining, since they were unable to force everyone to actually buy a license key. .... Wow, huge part of post DELETED. Guess some info not allowed?
@@raheesom I realize many don't pay for a key. For me it has gotten to the point where I would gladly pay an annual fee to use a version of Windows that leaves me the ability to use the O/S as I want to use it.
I manage and use a software/db intensive win10 image for work. Between monthly MS updates and macafee solidcore, every month is an uphill battle. 22H2 was a nightmare on our powershell scripts, and now we're testing for win11. This is going to suck. I have to say, tho, that win10 has deterred our wannabe expert users from "trying" things at work that they do on their home pc.
I only wish Linux were a real alternative. Don't get me wrong I work with both Linux and Windows every day and Linux excels in server roles but simply isn't meant to be a desktop OS.
@@MoreBollocks-ui2zs Why? If Linux is not good enough for Desktop then nothing is. Maybe you're still adjusting and will get it eventually. I had moments like that about Linux years ago. Now instead of saying "why can't I do it in Linux this way?" I usually say "why can't Windows work this way?" Really. Keep it up!
The drag & drop into the path bar was also something I used all the time! I'm so glad someone mentioned it, it was so weird when I tried to do it now on Windows 11 and it didn't work, then I looked it up and learned they removed it just because they felt like it (I think their actual reasoning was literally: "not that many people use it, let's just remove it"). The disrespect toward their own users is unreal.
I hate the new address bar. It doesn't make any sense. It shows less of the path compared to the old address bar and I constantly misclick the empty space between the folders, so instead of going to a previous folder, it edits the address.
People often buy big, expensive high-resolution monitors *because they want more usable screen space*. Not usually due to having the visual cognition of a two-year-old. Then we have MS and the majority of current website creators tabletifying everything, scrolling down umpteen times to see content which should fit on an old 640x480 VGA display. … It's somewhat akin to fitting a sports car with the same engine as a 49cc scooter. Even with "printer-friendly" stuff e.g. statements, now it's triple line spacing with tiny fonts and acres of white-space. Requires FOUR sheets of paper? It could easily fit on ONE.
tables based layouts are not supposed to be used for new stuff. as far as i'm aware, flexbox layout is all the rage now for websites. where items can be made to fit with "flex-wrap: wrap;" for line wrapping items. but you can't prevent people from using the wrong tools
MS continuing to screw up desktop UIs is so damn baffling. Windows Phone FAILED, guys. Surface tablet marketshare consists almost entirely of people who bought it at clearance prices or fished one out of a dumpster. There is no unified UI to keep chasing. Meanwhile, insane things that EVERYONE HATES stick around. What kind of animal uses drag & drop to move text selections?!
deal breaker for me, is not being able to move the task bar on to either left or right or top of the screen. It is LOCKED to the bottom of the screen. Like WHY?!
There used to be a way to put a folder worth of icons on your taskbar; like a kind of "launcher" almost. Never understood why they removed that; it was so useful. Sticking apps (ugh...) to the taskbar is so clunky compared to the convenience we used to have.
Unfortunately this has been the case since the start of 11. But task bar replacements have been an option to easily restore the 10 style taskbar and all it's features. These are the very options they are breaking with the latest update. Hopefully they will still find a way.
Absolutely, I think the designers at Microsoft with their 3 monitors don't quite understand that a laptop or a single monitor setup absolutely need the vertical space while keeping the taskbar active. When Apple is doing better job at UX, you know it's really bad.
NT is the kernel, DWM is the window manager and it only exists since Windows Vista. Windows shell is the user interface, and it exists since Windows 95
Nah I just want my unix utils and bash and linux kernel. NT is a security swiss cheese nightmare. Windows is really only good for gaming still. However, Valve is making a pretty nice dent in that.
I knew it had gone off the rails when I went from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and when I inserted a USB drive it told me to "tap" to select it, on a desktop PC.
Customization is one of the most important things to me. Even explorerpatcher and openshell aren't enough. Windows should just have more customization options available for power users, i dont know why they don't..
I make do with Explorerpatcher because I really don't like having to run programs in the background at all times. It's enough to make it usable imo but I would like a few more options to perfect it. I also run ShutUp10++ on every new install.
As an IT admin who manages a Windows environment for around 250 end users I can honestly say: Windows 11 CONSTANTLY gets in the way of me doing actual work. Edge takes over PAID FOR copies of Adobe reader pro CONSTANTLY. It always tries to take away prefered browsers and put Edge in their place. It installs 3 different versions of Teams (with out my permission) even though we need Teams (work or school) to do parts of our job. When MS office fails, it takes down the entire OS with it causing me to have to re-image the PC which is hours of work for me, and hours of lost work for the end user. Win 7 let us choose what updates we needed, Win 11 forces them on us no matter what. When I set up a new Win 11 install for a new employee, I have to: Uninstall about 10-12 apps that are not needed in a business world Disable UEFI Encapsule Updates from the BIOS Jump through hoops to get local user accounts to work deny MS account control about a half dozen times so MS doesn't take full control of the PC be completely mercilessly attacked by unwanted windows updates.
Manageing Windows 11 is a different beast now. You really need to use Intune + Autopilot and use Intune policy settings to tweak it or GPO. Then you can control Windows Update, Start menu etc. You should not be doing manual setup anymore really. You can do it but as you see there are a bunch of blocks.
Sysprep a completed Win11 build image with a skip OOBE unattend file. If its standard office junk it'll take an hour or 2 at the most to prepare, then new machines only take 10 minutes to set up. Don't let microsoft waste your time. What annoys me is Office 365 desktop apps failing to update and the OST file size limit for outlook. Completely useless, the web app has no such limit, why not base the desktop application off the same software?
@artisanbusiness1314 IT can be hell if you are working for the wrong people. Despite Microsoft and Adobe awfulness, I love where I work and plan to retire with my current employer. The CEO is super cool and we get to do super cool things 😎
most of mine are running W7, I have one new laptop that came with win 11, I wiped it and installed a fresh copy of w10. if it wasn't for knowing there was no way i was going to get drivers for it I might have tried windows 7 on it too.
I think one of the reasons Microsoft doesn't seem to care about cheap Windows keys is because there's no profit in them. Data mining is where they clean up, so I wouldn't be surprised if permanent ads on the desktop, or being forced to have a Microsoft account, become a reality.
@@Damian-cilr2 it used to be possible but not anymore unless you use Rufus which does a registry edit for you on install. Some day that will be patched too. Microsoft is just allowing that method for now... Windows 11 knows it when you don't have a Microsoft account linked to the local user. some day it will lock you out until you sign in.
They're moving to a subscription model for most things. They don't care about the cheap Windows keys because they can charge you $6 a month for Office 365.
@@Damian-cilr2 (yt deleted my comment) not anymore. It's locked out in a recent update. The only way around for now is to flash the ISO with Rufus which contains a registry edit option to disable the Microsoft account. no other way for now
I made the same decision after trying 11 for a few months and luckily 10 will be supported until 2032 so you'll be fine for a good while unless a lot of 3rd party software start dropping support in the coming years ;)
MacOS is a nice and well working OS, but the owners are competing with Microsoft who's gonna lose more users due to "security" and various restrictions they are imposing on users. Things we users usually call "buttfexk" 😆
@@dddux I've now been using MacOS for about +1 year. Before experience in Windows and Linux. My opinion is that MacOS is very meh OS. Like everyone is praising it, but getting into it UI window management out-of-box is like from Windows 95. Absolute utter dog shit. It's honestly hilarious how _bad_ it is. There are nice features like really well working file preview, but still. Not impressed at all and now seeing AMD getting really good in performance/power on laptops plus ARM. There's no way I'll buy another Mac.
@ThePuuFa you're mistaken, sir. Security updates end in October of next year unless you're willing to pay out the ass for a subscription to get "extended support" which will only get you another 3 years.
Desktop OSes are trying to figure out where they fit in and who their target market it as the landscape has changed. People who are not creating content, which is the majority, are rapidly moving to mostly using their phone or tablet when not at work. I've seen this with those in my own family who are not power users or PC gamers, they spend way more time on small screens devices than desktops. This is huge shift over the last ten years. Windows should be focusing more on the power users, business users, and PC gamers. Windows home as it stands is becoming irrelevant.
That's right. Desktop computers aren't nearly as popular as they were during the noughts and early 10s. A modern household can absolutely do away with WIndows if they have a smart TV (Android), Playstation console(s), several smart phones and pads that run iOS and/or Android. Unless you're using the computer for content creation - music, pictures, and videos, you don't need it.
sad but true. the saddest part is that politics jumped on the bandwagon and gave out ipdas to elementary pupils instead of making them work with proper desktop PCs. and ipad will not prepare you to find a good job
Your Pepsi comparison illustrates a good point. They really should start releasing different versions of Windows. You could have a normie version of Windows which comes preinstalled and has all this fluff. But then they could have versions designed specifically for gaming or power users, or hell even a version specifically for VMs.
Eh its a bad comparison. The versions your talking about already exist. Windows Home is meant for Retail use and Pro is meant for Office work and power users. and for People who want no extra bells and trinkets (i.e power users) Windows Pro N. Then you also have Long Term Service Channel Windows 10 -2021 and IoT for systems that are meant in 24/7 uptime environment. It seems to me you guys are buying the standard Windows 11 and then having wrong expectations. Any way the whole philosophy behind Windows 11 Retail is to improve on Security standards, This by default limits people in capabilities which i think is a good thing because the overal majority of people on this planet do not know how to manage their system properly. You want less of that? buy a different Windows 11 version. Its not worse, its just not for you!
@@johanb.7869 SomeOrdinaryGamers drone spotted, you can still use XP on the internet just fine if you know what you're doing and dont intentionally turn of all firewalls
You don't need Linux variants if you're running Steam games. It's as simple as Windows: click to install, no messing about. The problem is non-Steam games that require Lutri, which works well but requires some fiddling and can be problematic at times. Older games are hit and miss and AMD gpus have better support than Nvidia.
@@MoultrieGeek Exactly, I'm an Nvidia user, so Linux is a no-go for gaming for me. Tedious workarounds and tweaks are just not worth the hassle and don't fix much, the Nvidia Linux drivers really just are abysmal. AMD users are lucky their manufacturer actually cares about Linux support, they even have ROCm. I have an AMD-based Laptop running most of my Steam games with zero issues. It's night and day and it's all because of Jensen.
I personally wish Microsoft could find a way to provide themes to make newer versions of Windows look and feel like previous versions, kind of like how 7 has the aero theme and the classic gray theme.
it already exists, it's called msstyles. MS simply doesn't care/doesn't want to bother with it due to them focusing on web-based apps instead of traditional win32 programs also, i personally believe that microsoft doesn't have any experienced developers in their windows department anymore, as they basically only hire people for 18 months to not pay benefits to employees.
Google "Open-Shell"... makes my Windows 11 start menu look just like the Windows 7 start menu. (Why Microsoft does not have that choice "built-in" is beyond me. Micro-Controlling Gobshites.)
I jumped off the Windows Wagon when the first foreshocks of ads being experimented with in the file browser hit us. I switched to Linux then, and it's been interesting to say the least. (Using a newbie distro, Mint, for reference.) Certain things are ridiculously easy in Linux where I had some resistance in Windows. Things like recognizing printers is done seemlessly on Linux where if it sees the device on your network it will just add it to usable devices when you go to print. I've never had an easy time setting up printers on Windows. Another odd thing was I decided to install Microsoft Office 07 under Wine, and it gave me no hassle at all over my key. I've used this software cd/key since around 2008, and when I upgraded to Windows 10 it REALLY did not want me to be able to activate it. I ended up just having to leave the key in the software, keep using it while the activation timer kept giving me warnings, and eventually it gave in and just gave me my software activation. No such fuss on Linux. Gaming on Linux really brings me back to my early days of computers for me (early 2000's in my case) where you can get most stuff to work, but you're going to have to work a little bit for it. If you stick to Steam it's really easy, but it gets more complicated when you want to run older games or mods. Thankfully the tricks you learn to get one game working will probably apply to many others. That sense of discovery really takes me back to when computers were new and exciting to me, as I didn't have everything quite figured out, and the possibilities of what the machine in front of me could do seemed endless. The biggest downside of Linux for me is definitely the hard incompatibilities. There have been certain pieces of hardware that I initially thought I wasn't going to be able to run, like my GOXLR or my PCIe capture card, but with some headache I was eventually able to get running in some capacity. The biggest hurdle being, like you said, some of the creative apps not working fully or at all on Linux. One example for me being Vegas Pro. It's not supported on Linux, and only some older versions can run under Wine, and they come with big compromises. My options then are either to go without it, keep a windows install, or learn a new editing suite. The third option is probably what Ill end up doing, but I know thats a huge timesink and ball of frustration that I have to get through right off the start. I do hope more people come to Linux. I don't think it will ever be the dominant OS, but I could see it being the one gamers use if it were to ridiculously easy to setup in 99% of games (right now it's probably 70% thanks to steam), and if the performance gap on Windows it has for games grew too big for gamers to ignore.
Linux isn't for everyone, but at least you can make it your own unlike Windows with all the telemetry, ads and other crap you don't want and it's free.
When i switched about 2 years ago, the printer thing surprised me. I had tried to do it about 10 years ago and it was a pain to get my printer working, but it looks like sometime in the interim, someone has put the time and effort into sorting it, and i agree, its a lot more seamless then Windows these days. Especially wireless ones.
I have been using Linux since Microsoft broke OS/2 Warp because I did not want to go to Windows 95. I have worked as a Linux Operations Admin with a DevOps team in the past so I am pretty expert with it. Have you tried setting up a VM in VirtualBox for those apps that absolutely need Windows to work? I use a VM to run Quicken because what Linux is really missing is a good personal finance manager. And I also have to use the VM to watch English Premier League Football (Soccer) on Peacock because they do an OS check and Peacock refuses to run on Linux because of "support issues". Never mind that ever other freaking streaming service runs great on Linux. But I have to admit that I keep a Win 10 PC around for gaming and resource-intensive stuff like video editing. However, once W10 goes EOL I will probably get rid of Windows on the PC and just use VMs for those rare times I need to use Windows for something.
@@ElTejanoLoco how is performance on a VM vs native? i have a 2tb ssd for linux on my pc out of the total, idk, 11 tbs i have on my pc. but i mostly use linux now so i think when i get a new 4tb ssd, i'll make it ext4 and use it as a buffer to transfer my old stuff to ext4 too, and i'll invert the current situation: only 2tb as ntsc for windows. anyway, i'd much prefer a VN over dual booting if performance isn't impacted. so how is it?
NOOOOOOOO Adobe is the LAST company that I'd be okay with making an OS! you know it's bad when even the government doesn't like them, since the US Government recently sued them for their insane *hidden* termination fee, I loved watching that unfold
Hear hear on the audio for Linux stuff. It's holding me back as well. BUT, the past year, more and more plugin devs have started bringing their plugs to Linux, which is absolutely amazing. When it comes to DAWs there's now Reaper, Bitwig and Studio One, all with official Linux versions. So things are actually happening, and they're moving in the right direction faster than ever before. And yes, Apple had it right with the no touch screen on the laptops, because touch brings schizophrenia regarding the UI interactions and the result will be a shitty UI with worst of both worlds.
Wait... Studio One is on Linux? I actually like that one better than most. It's what my Dad uses too (he does bebop jazz mostly). I didn't like Bitwig's piano roll. FL studio has the best piano roll, which is why I use it. I don't like the workflow much otherwise, but I'm used to it. I'll give it a try soon. Thanks for posting this... I didn't even know.
Touch screens were actually useful on Windows 7 as an accessibility tool. I loved having one for scrolling web pages with a flick of the finger, rather than fighting with nasty laptop touchpads. Less important on Mac as Apple developed a much better touch pad where two finger scrolling actually works consistently. Interestingly there seems to be a lot of software involved in this, as it doesn't work nearly as well on Asahi Linux. For a while it even felt like maybe Windows 8 was somewhat heading in the right direction by having a "tablet mode". The problem is rather than keeping this entirely independent of the desktop OS, they decided to also mess with the desktop UI for touch, which made no sense when 99% of users would never need it and it just made desktop mode worse.
@@teksyndicate Yup, Studio One for Linux is currently in public beta so it'll probably arrive for real in a not too distant future. Hey, come to think of it, I wouldn't mind you making a video on that, trying and evaluating Studio One on Linux and some of the snazzy free plugins that are available now. It's probably a lot of work, but the more content/eyes on Linux music creation the better.
Personally I have had nothing but great experiences with Linux audio no matter what I ran through. Pipewire is amazing since I started using it like a year ago.
Reaper+ReaSWS+ReaPack. And: u-he plugins, TAL plugins, DSP56300 synths (Virus C, Virus TI2, MicroQ, Microwave XT), Surge XT synth, Cardinal (VCV rack compatible) modular, Audio Damage plugins, LSP plugins, ACMT plugins, JonV FirComp, and I'm all set! I do use many other plugins I usually pick up on Github, but that is my base DAW setup and I don't need any WIndows/Mac plugins at all. I tried WINE and some Windows plugins - Valhalla fx plugins, and they work nicely. Not into this WINE thing though, I prefer native plugins.
I switched to win11 just because I service machines owned by other people that run win11. I hate it! My desktop will be going back to win10pro next week. My laptop is still running win8, still my favorite.
I bought a new laptop with windows 11 because my old windows 10 laptop died. The OS didn't survive past 7 minutes before I recoiled from disgust and installed windows 10. And I still could only tolerate windows 10, not like it. I lost too much control over the OS
Windows 8 was MSFT’s attempt to beat Apple at the computer + tablet + phone game. Back then, an app you got for your iPhone would not work on your iPad and Mac. You might have to get/buy the app 3 times! MSFT wanted Windows, their tablet (now Surface), and the Windows phone to have consistent UIs (heavily influenced by the Zune!) so that users could seamlessly switch among devices and always have the same experience. It didn’t work. Then the Windows phone vanished. Now we have a desktop OS that prefers a touchscreen and often feels like a tablet OS, because it pretty much is (for the Surface).
I recall attending a Microsoft TechEd back when windows 7 was being released. There was a seminar talking about windows 7 and UAC. The presenter asked who were power users and most of the audience put their hands up. He then said - it's because of you that we have put UAC in place. . . And they've been taking stuff away ever since.
The biggest loss in Windows 11 is the custom toolbar option on the taskbar. In Windows 10 (and earlier), I use it for my program access about 98% of the time. Very seldom do I use the Start menu.
It feels like every big company is slowly trying to copy Apple's ideology because they're too f'in arrogant to understand that they'll never be Apple, nor should they be. MS is using analytics to strip features used only by X percentage of users and want to eventually push everyone towards relying on Copilot. It's an incredibly stupid move because just like the crap Samsung is doing now, they don't actually polish their product enough to justify it so you end up alienating your users to become a worse version than the company you're trying to copy. All while doing nothing to convince their users to switch over.
MS is so weird about the OS where they keep removing any user control people have. Then just doing things to make the general experience worse. I'm glad I switched to Linux.
It really does. It's wild to me whenever I remind myself that Windows 11 is not in some pre-release/beta stage anymore and was officially released to the public 3 years ago. It really does feel like a janky beta version of an OS. Still.
At this point I’ve made a game out of picking through new W11 updates to see what’s been changed. These days I only boot my W11 drive to let the girlfriend play her games or to access GamePass, so months pass between boots. Without fail, something has always changed for the worse in those months. This is textbook enshittification in my eyes. They’re going to push ads, web apps, AI, and bloat while removing stuff we actually like. Can’t wait to see subscription model for Windows happen, that’ll be the day I stop dual booting entirely.
@@see-sharp You really got nothing better to do than patrol this video making brain dead remarks? Gate keeping Linux is how you prevent curious people from trying new things. You need to touch grass.
@@see-sharp I mean you say that, but I migrated from Windows to Debian when I saw what Windows 11 was going to be before it came out. People have different levels of inertia. Windows 8 was where I decided I didn't like Windows anymore, Windows 10 was like a ringing in my ears, and seeing Windows 11 was the last straw. Other people have different last straws.
Not so long ago I upgraded my desktop computer from Debain Linux 11 to 12. I didn't have to learn a whole new OS because the look and feel of it did not change. Furthermore, I didn't have to reconfigure ANYTHING because, if you have a separate /home directory everything just stays the same except now you have a more secure, up to date system. I never did understand why Microsoft feels the need to partially or totally wipe the slate with every new release. Eveyone liked 10's user interface apparently so why go effing around with it?
They hate their customers. Maybe they should bring back the Win 8 interface to make it plain. It is spots on a screen -- if you went through the trouble you could make it look and act like Win 7 or XP.
I am still using same Debian I installed in 2013, Different computer and 3rd hard disk, though. Installed Debian 7 (wheezy) then just upgraded at every .5 (like 9.5) version when they worked out most of the bugs. Now I'm on Debian 12. Great thing with Linux is that the UI you chose doesn't change, just things that really matter, like drivers and os functionality and services. When Debian 13 comes out, remember to edit "sources" file, apt update, apt --upgrade-all . Gone are the days of having to erase everything and start fresh. Only with Windows it's recommendable cos it gets slower with time due to stupid registry file. Cheers!
Yes, there are programs similar to the classic TweakUI that work with Windows 11. For instance, Ultimate Windows Tweaker 5 is designed specifically for Windows 11 and offers a variety of tweaks to personalize and improve the system's performance. Additionally, TweakUIX aims to replicate the functionality of the original Tweak UI for modern versions of Windows, including Windows 11.
XP was easy on the eyes, didn't have to squint to see anything. These minimalist UIs (10 and 11) may look more elegant initially but that wears off as you realize they are not nearly as visually ergonomic as XP. Tired eyes with the newer operating systems.
@@GiraffeSweaters it has removed a lot of functionality, its a dumbed down taskbar and i dont know who asked for it, i dont know any person for whom the task bar was to complex to be used, that this had to happen
I’m honestly considering switching to another OS. From their inability to regain the search functionality of win8 to removing quality of life features and so much more it’s at a point that I literally have a thread on my Discord solely for Windows issues.
I suggest you try a few Linuxes to see if you find them OK. Linux Mint can be made to boot from an external USB hard drive. This means you don't need to even touch the Windows drive.
@@see-sharp Well I'm not the kind to stay loyal to a company. I can't ditch Windows outright but I can experiment with the OS and maybe see something I like and stick. I've already started installing suggestions on my other drives. It seems Linux is gaining more and more momentum these past years and Windows heading the other way so what better time.
Yep my spare laptop has 8.1 it just works 67 processes once configured and with a slow 4 core amd 7600 manages to be almost as snappy as thinkpad p16s with 6850u 55w 8 core
Too bad Openshell has some broken cosmetic features with Windows 11 or I'd still be using it ( I've been using it with Windows 10 since it was called Classicshell). Startallback works great though and it "just works" with Windows 11. (tip: change the visual style under the Start Menu configuration to "default" if you want both sides of the start men translucent)
My father is still using 8.1 and I won't force him to update. His 12 year old 8.1 PC runs smoother than my gaming laptop with the newest hardware running 11, with the major difference that Windows 11 also regularly gets into my way. Unfortunately software I need for work and gaming won't allow me to completely switch to Linux yet.
I say this to people and they think I’m a moron. Windows 8.1 was bulletproof compared to Windows 10 in my opinion. I don’t remember it crashing or forcing updates. I used 8.1 until the bitter end.
Windows is becoming a SaaS. The built in ads and lockdown of customization is just more of an effect of that push. In the end, I think their goal is to become an ad platform, not an OS. Which is why i'm going to have to continue to nope out of it. 10:50 - That is the furthering effect of making these computers for mainstream audiences. They don't cater to power users anymore. They just want warm bodies and eyeballs attached to the machine (to serve ads). 14:20 - Another reason I can't stand this stupid os. Locking out programs? It's my damned machine, i'll run whatever the hell I want. Just wait until they get rid of regedit and lockout your ability to modify the registry (for a start). If anything, i'll stick to running multiple machines with some older versions islanded away. I don't care enough to keep using this stupid os to keep hacking around it to get it to get out of my way.
@@Roxor128 Yes, but in a roundabout way that's what SaaS is. They just want people to pay monthly to use the devices they already paid for. And then on top of it, serve them ads that they can make money on as well. It's all very predatory.
I got a fairly new gaming laptop about 6 months ago that was pre-loaded with Windows 11. My old laptop was a Windows 10 model that I didn't have a ton of issues with. Within about 3 weeks of me having the Windows 11 one, I had to look up how to downgrade to from Win 11 to Win 10 and never looked back. The reason? RAM Utilization. For some reason, Windows 11 would hog about 45% of the memory, from a cold boot. That's with nothing else running. It would go up to about 70-80% the longer I would let it run. The laptop had no innate Malware or Spyware, or pre-installed garbage. I even did a fresh install of Windows 11, and it still had this problem. Went back to Windows 10, and no problems at all.
Just because it's allocating the memory doesn't mean it's using it. It'll free up the memory if needed. It's just trying to be ready for when you open different programs and perform different tasks - that way they can be loaded quicker.
It's there, It's Fast, So why not use it.? They've borrowed a bit from database servers and using up extra to speed things up when running. I guess more an allocated than actually using, and it frees up and adjusts as needs be.
@@sociallyferal4237 Because I didn't tell it to use it? And when I actually needed to do something, like have more than 2 Chrome tabs open, or play a game, it wouldn't give it back?
When I bought my 13900k build last year, it didn't take my previous Windows 10 installation, so since I had to start from scratch I decided to start with Windows 11, the first red flag that I faced was that I couldn't proceed with the installation because it needed to connect to the internet, and for some reason it was not finding the drivers needed to use either LAN or WLAN on my new Z790 motherboard, so I had to work around it by using the uGreen USB to LAN adapter I had bought to use on my Nintendo Switch for Online play, and then I was able to proceed with the Windows 11 install as the drivers for that other device were recognized, and then I pushed myself to use Windows 11 for about a month, and as I installed more software/drivers I noticed stability issues, and then when I actually tried doing my usual stuff such as using emulators or virtual machines I also encountered issues with those activities, but the thing that broke the camel's back for me was that File Explorer started crashing randomly, and I was also noticing slow response from the interface where when I tried right clicking stuff and etc, it would take some time to populate the context menu, and that's when I said screw it and did a fresh install for Windows 10, and unlike Windows 11 that had issues with the drivers for the Z790, I had a smooth installation from start to finish and now its basically 1 year later, and I can't report any issues on my Win 10 22H2 installation except for the one time where the KB5034843 update brought some strange slowdowns, but after uninstalling that I was able to resolve the slowdown issues with it, and I can't really complain as I've been able to do everything that I want now, and if I do want to have the Windows 11 experience, then I just boot up VMWare Workstation and run an install I have for Windows 11 on there.
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I know your comment is 2 months old, but you should be concerned about your Intel CPU. There's a problem with the 13th and 14th gen causing CPUs to die, you should look into it.
Windows 11 made me go to Linux and I love it on Linux Mint. Microsoft has pushed my patience over the edge and now that Linux has become viable for gaming thanks to Valve, it was time for me to finally try it.
How do I prevent W10 from accidentally updating to 11? It keeps offering the upgrade all the time, I'm afraid a wrong move, a wrong click results in an unwanted switch...
1. For many years since 16:9 and 16:10 LCD screens became common I started to move taskbar to the left side of the screen. When Windows 11 disabled that option I told to myself that I won't be using unofficial hacks as this is something that I expect from OS. Now that they fight with them I'm even more upset with it. I tested W11 for few days and then I went back to W10 as I didn't saw any advantage in new version. I will rather move to Linux full time than being forced to use taskbar at the bottom. 2. Microsoft don't listen and Microsoft don't care. Windows is not important to them as they get money from different products like Azure, XBox, CoPilot and so on. Tiny little changes take years because there's almost nobody working on it. And people who work there change every few years with new trendy unfinished ideas they bring. Look - only cool feature of Windows 11 was Android Subsystem and now it's gone.
Who still remembers... XP Antispy (website still exists btw., frozen in time since 2015). This battle has been ongoing since the literal dawn of the century...
In IT for 25 years. Agree 100% on all your points. I still run W10 on all my personnel systems and refuse to go to W11 (not ever) unless they undo the direction they are heading. Fun Fact: 70% percent of the World is still running W10 not W11, in fact there are more W10 users this year than there were last year which means PEOPLE don't like W11. MS ... Get a clue
I refuse to move to 11.. I already dumped my flawless 7 to move to 10 cause games started NOT supporting 7. I have no idea why I need to install a brand new operating system that is basically the same as the previous ones just to install a triple A title I'm going to play for 30 minutes and uninstall cause I wanted to play a game not watch a movie and hit X a few times before the credits roll also if you have a problem with an nvidia driver and you roll back to a previous version and you finally find that version that works and doesn't crash your system every 5 minutes you wake up the next morning only to find out that windows update UPDATED YOUR NVIDIA GPU BACK TO THE NEWEST VERSION YAY~~ SO NOT ONLY DO I HAVE A VERSION THAT IS CAUSING ME PROBLEMS AGAIN! BUT IT UPDATED IT WITHOUT USING DDU LIKE A NORMAL PERSON CAUSE ITS A SOULLESS PROGRAM!~ YAY~ SO NOW I HAVE TWO DRIVERS SITTING ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER LIKE A BULLY SITTING ON A NERD!~ YAY~~~~~~~~~
With each new version of Windows, I always hack the GUI and functionality to work/look like Windows 7/Vista. That is what I feel comfortable with, that is my "Windows zen."
@@namesurname4666 It's okay thou, as we still get some new functionality from Win10 or 11. So on my W11 setup, it looks most like Win7 + Win11 (curved corners). Depending on how I do it, Start Menu is XP/NT style or Win7. The W11 start menu look neat, but its a huge bloated mess with ads and junk I don't need. Either way, Win11/12 isn't designed for power users.
Why is MS being such an a$$hole about Windows 11? I'm at 23H2 and disabled updates, got Openshell, RetroBar and Winaero tweak app, made it look more like XP.
@@xybersurferI've had far fewer tech support requests and they are vastly more about user forgetting something simple with Linux (Pop!_OS mostly) than "Microsoft pushed an update that prevents my software from running" or "Microsoft pushed an update that slowed down my whole system" which is most of my Windows tech support requests.
@@xybersurfer So far there's less need for "people-support" on Linux when compared to Windows in my household (for the same people using both Windows and Ubuntu).
People like to moan. Their actions say they don't care, really. Because if they did, they would switch. I hate politics and the people in power, yet I don't vote nor have any plan to.
Windows NT was available on desktops much much earlier than 2000. MS had HUGE success with 3.51 and then even MORE success with NT 4.0. in fact, Win2k was mostly WinNT 4.0 with the Win 95 interface.
@1:18: You can't turn off telemetry. You only can set it to 'less'. If you have an Windows Educational license, you can set 'Allow telemtry' to '0 (Security)'. (There _still_ is data collection. But with Windows Professional or Windows Home you can't set it to '0 (Security)' ). At least, that was Windows 10. I'm not sure if the same goes for Windows 11. You can't turn off telemetry, because you can't block 'svchost.exe' (then Windows would stop working). It is totally uncertain what those processes do with telemetry, it is all closed source. You can and _should_ assume that a number of those processes are used to find out what you are doing (hence: gathering telemetry). Upcoming Microsoft Neptune chips (if not already incorporated in Intel/AMD/... chips) make things radically worse, with those chips Microsoft can do anything they want with your PC if it is connected to the internet. Anything. (They can block you from installing Linux, _if they choose so!) And they will (spy), if law enforcement asks them to do so. @1:08: 'Windows 10 is a good manager': I would not go that far. You need a _ton_ of modifications before it is good usable. And often you can't change something without _at the same time_ also change other things. That's a major pain in the ass. 'Windows 7 is a great manager': At least better than Windows 10. I liked the basic Windows 2000. Not riddled with hundreds of unwanted processes. But of course, we can't run w2k anymore (no security updates).
I love the desktop window manager in windows, it's so clunky and weird and mysterious for me. There is so little documentation on how it works, like for example, there's these 2 specific functions inside the binary, one of them is responsible for how 3d window animations are drawn on screen and another one for 2d. In windows 8, they essentially... removed the 3d function? I mean it still exists there in Windows 11 to this day, but it's literally the same as the 2d one. So if you somehow port a Windows 7 MSSTYLE and load it inside a windows 11 installation, you'll notice that the opening and closing animations of the windows are still 2d (but in the style of Windows 7)
And then DWM proceeds to take up 6 gigs of ram every now and then so I gotta use task manager to kill it cause microsoft doesn’t know how to fix simple memory leaks in their software, honestly embarrassing
I don't use Linux for one reason: games. Not because the games can not be run on Linux, but because the configurations to make them run is a pita. I recently tested a couple of Linux variants and installed/configured Baldur's Gate 3. The game ran fine. But I don't want to be tasked with the hours of workarounds to make them run.
I got so frustrated that I could not move the taskbar to the left of the screen I switched to MacOS. I would have moved to Linux if it had adobe or affinity software.
As someone who only reluctantly updated from Windows 2000 to XP and from XP to Windows 7 only after certain games and programs started demanding kernel functions not present on previous OSses I literally don't understand why people have "upgraded" to Windows 8, 10 or 11 from Windows 7? Is it the MS's "you absolutely cannot use OS that doesn't get security updates anymore" scare tactics? The need to have the newest and "greatest" version of Windows? Maybe I'm missing something here but I'm still using Windows 7 and ONLY at start of this year I have had some minor problems with "outdated" internet browsers started having problems with certain sites and that was easily fixed by changing browsers. Then again nowadays I have zero interest in new games, especially the AAA ones, so I don't know if latest games require newer versions of Windows? PS. If there was a 64-bit version of Windows 2000 and hardware supporting it that would be my dream OS, nothing has come anywhere near Windows 2000 as far as user interface is concerned. Anyway when Windows 7 finally becomes unusable for me I'm switching to Linux as then I'm done with Windows and it only getting worse for the last 20 years.
I'm on Debian now, but I was using Windows 10 before. All of my Windows upgrades have happened as a result of laptops breaking and me buying a new one. I suspect that's the case for most Windows customers.
I ran into an issue where certain software required Windows 10. Otherwise I wouldn't have upgraded to 10. I am now in the process of switching to Linux and keeping a small Windows 10 install (dual boot) for the few apps I need to use once in a while.
For me it was games. I was happy on win7, but because I got a new dx12 card at the time, I went on to win10. I see that win7 supports dx12 now thanks to the Chinese Market and their love of wow. If I could play every game on 7, I would, but some games require the latest update to win10 now which is the only thing stopping me going back to 7.
Personally, I could care less if there is a 64 bit version of 2000. I main 7 myself, and I too don't care about modern games, but believe me, if I could main 2000, I 100% would, even if I had to downgrade my hardware a bit. And even so, there is the extended kernel so at least there are some decent browsers for XP that can work on 2K
You sound exactly like me more than 10 years ago. But I switched, first dual booting for some time and then erasing Windows when I figured I didn't need it anymore. ;)
Re: "Stick with Windows 10 for as long as humanly possible." That was about 3 partial days for me. Getting character sizes so I could read from about 30" away from my monitor was impossible. Deal killer: no frames around windows. "Frames" are often called "borders". So I found myself hunting for the edges of grey windows sitting on top of other grey windows. What fathead came up with the idea of frameless windows? I am using Windows 7 Home, despite its refusal to use the upper half of my machine's 32GB memory. Thanks for nothing, Microsoft. (Linux is worse. Is there no hope?)
Dude, you can make character sizes so large you can read them from 30 ft away, but you're going to need a much bigger monitor, like 65" and reduce the resolution. Borders around windows is a good feature. Especially thin colored borders. There's a couple tweak programs for Windows 11 that may do it. I'll look into that. Thanks for your post.
@@phoenixrising4995 I tried to install the AMD ROCm toolkit on Ubuntu 24.04 and it bricked my install because they deprecated parts of Python that the AMD SDK needs to compile. Went back to windows because I need ROCm to run Stable Diffusion.
You mentioning the GUI dates back to Windows NT made me reminiscent of my MCSE on NT 4.0 days back in 1996. Yes, I used NT 3.51 BEFORE Win95 came out. It needed a boatload of RAM when there was collusion going on between manufacturers and RAM cost about 50$ PER MEGABYTES back then.
Microsoft, is trying to be Apple while trying to make you forget that Linux exists by integrating random features. If they just focus on being Microsoft, and listening to what their users want, they could recover. I don't see that happening any time soon.
I'm on Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC because it's a Windows 10 build with support till 2032, and after that is over I might go over to some LTSC version of Windows 11 that supports explorer patcher, but also has security updates.
@@R0d_1984 I don't have a good source explaining Windows IoT Enterprise LTSC, because it's meant for embedded devices. It's not bloated and doesn't even have the Microsoft Store (you can install it yourself) but there is no way for a consumer to buy this version of windows you can in get it in not so legal ways.
I’m in basically the same situation as you. I have Linux on several machines but for my main I’m stuck with Windows 10 as primary because of FL using VST’s, Midi, Adobe CC, and a couple other programs. I remember playing around with seamless RDP MS RemoteApp into Linux there was a project that allowed opening of files and worked very well for office. As Windows 10 end of Support approaches I will be playing with this again and hopefully getting FL to work. I plan on having a VM or other server running the version of Windows for the specific programs. I’m hoping it can be window server otherwise I plan on locking down, securing, and stripping 10 as much as possible to be in a state where it can defer updates as I’ve done for clients that need to use legacy versions of Windows for old vital business software / machinery. That’s the plan at least, but a new GUI for windows would be an interesting option. Edit: needed to mention I don’t use windows 11, I never liked it. Stuck with 10 and have no intention to use 11 as daily.
I dual boot. I have a small partition for Windows 10. Enough for the OS and some room for Ableton Live, FL Studio and a graphics design app. I use Linux unless I need to use one of those apps. The vast majority of what I need can be done on Linux. If it weren't for those few pieces of software I wouldn't have a Windows install at all. All other PC's are in the process of being migrated to Linux as soon as I backup the files.
I actually had no idea they removed the drag and drop function in the addressbar.. ive been on windows 10 1909 LTSB because i cant stand windows11, but i didnt realize they went that far.. damn..
... except that in Greek 'chi' is pronounced _chee_ and not "kai" Only Americans seem to have the propensity to round ever 'i' into an "eye" sound. For most other Anglophones, and all non-Anglophones an 'i' always indicates an "ee" sound.
@@dddux they are coincidental. it was a vague general reference to the Rosetta stone, bringing all of Windows under the NT shell while still supporting 9x to the extent tast it did, including drivers hw & sw. the eXPerience branding you refer was as much a rebranding of the plus from earlier 9x versions and later recycled as SXS in 7 & later as 'side by side'. all really non sequitor which is what we come to expect when Microsoft names something. i realize it doesnt make a lot of sense anymore but it was their original intention behind the name.
If you manually force install a driver the window that comes up is so old it asks you if you want to look on the A drive for the file not even the C drive first
Windows 7 is undoubtedly the last GREAT version of Windows, in my opinion. It was also the last Windows version that felt like a TRADITIONAL desktop operating system. Windows 8 and later releases are a disease. They stripped a lot of legacy functionality that eariler versions of Windows used to have, and they introduced various controversial UI design choices that impacts usability especially on traditional desktop and laptop computers to tailor more to users that have a touchscreen device. Microsoft also started to move away from pleasing power-savy users and instead pleasing average users that don't care about if their product is bad or not, they will use what is in front of them. Once Microsoft transitioned Windows to a software as a service model with Windows 10 with the present day Windows as a Service model, the downfall got even more worse as we started to have advertisements shoved down our throats across the operating system, it took away complete control of Windows updates, telemetry data collection that spies on you and sends everything that you do on your computer to Microsoft and distruptive major feature updates that make large changes that remove large amounts of functionality and messes up your Windows configuration.
Talk to the developer or whatever program hasn't put their items in the new menu to put it in the new menu Has more users use Windows 11 programs have slowly been updating
Microsoft tries to get rid of old metro and legacy UI elements and replacing them with cheap XML html based shit. Ofc they also get rid of the context menu and replacing it with the new ugly one
my pc became trash with W11. I am not sure what they are doing, but W11 literally made my PC useless. Unbearable stutter and IPC lag. Now with W10, everything is as it should be. W11 is horrific.
They also develop windows 11 as simultaneously working with Surface tablets. Thats apparently why stuff like taskbar management is missing. Idk why they can’t have two builds but I assume that’s them being to cheap to qa two systems.
Technically the interface for Windows 11 was Windows 10x which was supposed to be for arm based and multi screen surface devices however both of those did utterly horrible. This was also followed by the call that it would be bad to just cut off support for Windows 10 for certain devices and not others. Since they already had the development versions of the new interface for 10x they use that for 11 then instead of dropping a subset devices they can just drop a whole operating system.
@@teksyndicate It is crazy yeah. I certainly don't agree with it, but the writing was on the wall when they let go of most of their windows QA team years ago. It would be the same if Windows Phone took off, because they would eventually be on this OS anyway.
I switched from Win11 to Linux Mint on my laptop recently... I run the same software in Mint, Audacity, Fre:ac, all run much better than they did in Windows. Also, the laptop is much faster and the cooling fans run much slower/more quietly, laptop puts out far less heat. Now I've changed to Linux I won't be going back to Windows, also it has extended my laptops life for another couple of years, which saves me money and is more environmentally friendly.
I love the lengths people will go to in making Windows 10/11 behave as much as possible like Windows XP. Can't say I blame ya. Those were the days of super simple configuration and maximum customizability.
Exactly what you said in you this video is how I feel about it. Look, I really want Windows to be good like Windows 7 or 10, but it just tries to get in your way all the time now. The fact that they remove the old code means they don't let the user use their software , no. They tell the user how to use the software. Like you, I have a few Windows programs I need. Other than these few programs I use Linux now. I'm done. I tried to hang around but enough is enough. Looking out for the video where you show the software you can't go without 💪🏻
I will say this, an unactivated Windows install that I've had for a while when The OEM key that I had didn't work, got to say it's probably the smoothest windows experience I've had so far with 10. I mean I did the whole thing with the region global, and jumping out of the startup, alt f3, then created the user account with group manager... And that significantly helped my initial outing... But with the exception of the watermark that shows up, I don't think I've ever had an issue like I used to have with an activated account.
I'm not saying this is the way, and the watermark is annoying, and I had to do some registry hacks to get the task bar to minimize. I still had to you know do the standard pulling services and making sure that apps are just not working at all as much as possible.. and do some things in group permissions to you know make sure some things stay off. But.. This used to be a daily struggle, whereas I really haven't had to mess with it The last few months. Biggest downside is if I want to get rid of the watermark I got to restart every couple of hours, which hasn't turns out is probably one of the better things for Windows given it's run time issues.. The only reason I held off getting a new key was cuz my Microsoft account got hacked, and I didn't want to do anything until I had that sorted, which of course never lol you don't get that sorted. which really hammered the point home, the Microsoft account, the one account to rule it all, bad idea in general.. and skipping that process was a boon probably for more reasons than that I wanted to shorten the process of turning my computer back into a computer from a cell phone.. Haven't talked with anybody that knows things as to if this is a just a repeatable thing, end for a lot of people this would be very difficult, cuz you can't do things like scale ui and whatnot. But for me, I don't need a custom background I need a black screen and a task Bar that disappears. I need my software to work when I want it to work, I need my settings to stay, I need programs to do what they're supposed to do and shut down when they're not.. Honestly I almost don't know if I want to activate Windows at all, cuz I feel like I might be killing a unicorn here or at the very least that semifunctional goose.
I have completely debloated Windows 11 and removed my sign in details when logging in. Will these changes still effect me? Will I still need to switch to Linux Mint?
My suggestion to any windows user is to experiment with Linux NOW. Dual boot it, or install it on an old computer, and learn how to do your common tasks on Linux. This way, when Microsoft eventually makes Windows deal-breakingly bad, you will have an easier time moving to Linux. And trust me, it's only a matter of time. Eventually, you'll want to run 90% on Linux and run Windows as dual boot or VM for the few things that require it.
As a Linux user, I agree with your points. It's going to be a slow drip, drip process. Average users are becoming more tech savvy. Hopefully, the big software vendors will jump onboard. Eventually. The one question I have for Microsoft, is why? Seriously.
"Average users are becoming more tech savvy" Really? Where? Please show me. I haven't met anybody in the real world who owns a proper computer in years.
@@lboston4660 certainly in the UK. I would regard most of my colleagues as computer literate. It's become essential in the world of work now. I can't speak for foreign countries, however.
its safe to say that if it wasnt for security reasons, most people would still be using windows xp and 7
I liked the Vista UI a lot. I would take the speed and capabilities of 7 and the UI of Vista to get the perfect Windows OS.
Use Common Sense. I Still Use 7 Myself.
@@himmelskibet 7 is not secure, otherwise I would be using it. And a lot of apps like Chrome have dropped support for it.
I would def still be on 7
For me it would be win8. I still run it on one laptop, and love it!
Microsoft has to understand that once we power users start going to linux, and get confortable there, we are not coming back.
I expect it won't just be the power users. On Linux (lets use Mint as an example), I can have a copy of firefox to watch all all the cat videos I want and there is a solitaire game. That covers 99.9% of what a computer is really used for and it doesn't need a TPM chip.
Microsoft does not care about power users. Their market is OEM and business.
You have no power in Linux.
@@1pcfred sudo get power
Microsoft is fine with that TBH. Windows doesn't exactly make MS that much money. People like your mom and grandma will gladly stay on W10/W11/Whatever Apple Calls their Desktop OS.
Thats what annoys me, Not the ads, The control over MY PC. I do not need someone telling me what I can install on it.
The ads SHOULD annoy you. You paid money for Windows 10, even if it came pre-loaded onto your PC when you bought it.
Nothing saddens me more to hear people accept ads as part of their daily experience with their computing devices.
YOU control what goes into YOUR eyes and ears, not Microsoft, not Google. Man up and adblock.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Very true, They really should, I use adblock on youtube cause of how freaking annoying it is. But to be fair, I have not paid for windows XD. Im using ubuntu way more now.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 I had a nasty time with ads on win10, then I installed Brave and adjusted the advert blocking.
Absolutely no adverts since three months ago, and Brave is free.
Plus since using it I've had over 30k of ads etc stopped.
No adverts anywhere.
I could be wrong but I think we only Rent a copy of the operating system, not Own.
@@20chocsaday completly true with windows, even if they dont specify it
As a Linux user I actually agree with a lot of your points here, and I don't pretend Linux is the silver bullet that we want it to be yet, I just got really tired of all the ads, broken code, and straight up data theft
I use linux on lots of my systems... but I can't on my main because the music programs I need don't work (VSTs mostly)... The creative crowd is hostage to windows or MAC
@@teksyndicate that's exactly what I aim to fix personally, a lot on Linux has gotten better overall, but audio issues still plague us, I and who ever is willing to contribute will work on this soon, though don't expect much too quickly, it'll be my first major project after all
@@KCKingcollin the linux community should start a system where contributors are paid , not just applauded , or just taken for granted
@@edwardmacnab354 you mean like donations? Lol
@@KCKingcollin well for one thing they should start making huge corporate users pay some kind of user fee , but I suppose they will still then keep ripping the linux community off by clandestinely incorporating open source code in their own proprietary software
Ahh Microsoft, they've reinvented the wheel so many times now it's a square!
Cheers 🍻
And made it basically useless😜
Imo Microsoft is on a power trip where they think "we can do whatever we want and you'll use our product anyway because you're dependent on our software". The coercion they put their users through is insane, forcing them to sign into a Microsoft account, making it difficult to add local accounts, locking the UI withoutgiving any option to change it & frequently breaking 3rd party apps that try to let power users customize stuff, excessive telemetry, and syncing all your data into their overprices cloud services, that on top of years of legacy code baggage, inconsistent UI design with like 2 context menus and 3 half-baked settings menus.
Ignoring how evil it is, they don't realize that more and more apps are cross platform or have decent open source alternatives. In the short term this stuff works but in the long term they'll lose their audience once everyone finds out it's cheaper and better to just use linux.
More specifically 4 squares in a 2x2 grid arrangement
This is so funny and so true.
@@s1nistr433 The inconvenient truth. They can virtually "behind-hop" millions of users because they - can. Been observing this behaviour since Windows XP and they're not going to stop. Thankfully the process has been very slow, giving Linux developers enough time to make Linux better and more user friendly, which it is for about a decade now, but constantly getting better. One of the things I had to get used to with Linux is updating. Always hated updates on Windows, or changing the OS. Linux Debian, I installed it in 2013 and it's still running perfectly. Went from v7 to v8, v9... v12 throughout years and 3 different hard disks, 2 different computers.
How about that stupid right click menu, where the most used cmd's are under "more options" Pisses me off 10 times a day.
WinAero Tweaker can disable that for you
Still on Win 10. Nothing moves me to 11
So can a reg tweak.
And these replies show exactly how much people have to cope. "Just edit the registry entries".
When people have to go around these things in obscure and inconvenient ways, that's a clue Microsoft is fumbling real hard.
@@zeus1117 Forced to use it because my laptop came with it
My desktop has Windows 10 even though it came out after Windows 11 came out. It's so much better.
Hostility toward customer needs has been accelerating in all areas of commerce in the last several years. It will cost them dearly.
Amen!
Doubtful
@ultravioletiris6241 why do you doubt, I dont think you understand how fed up people are, im staying on win10
@@hellishcyberdemon7112 Till they end security updates
@@hellishcyberdemon7112 I'm permanently switching to Linux and having an old laptop with Windows if I have anything I need
For me deal breaker was when 'My Computer' became 'This PC', implying that the PC is no longer mine...
Its your master that controls your life...
Try the big updates and install process "hang on.. just a moment" then.. "All yours now" < Shouldn't have been "all mine" to begin with? Arghhh!
that sounds pretty childish tbh
@lunar6629"Some have multiple computers"
You must be fun at parties...
Its still Personal
Had an ex microsoft emplyee help build a PC last year and he was adamarnt about keeping windows 10.
He literally called 11 'windows 8' all over again.
Worse than windows 8. Windows 8 did not force you on buying a new PC with bs like TPM 2.0
@@coshvjicujmlqef6047 and uefi and secure boot and.... the list goes on and on.
UEFI is good. secure boot is not.
@@coshvjicujmlqef6047 try migrating your windows boot drive (with windows boot manager on uefi) to another drive. It won't boot (giving you those adorable Stop Codes) unless you go through a gazillon loop holes. Windows Boot manager is also about the worst boot manager you can think of. But it's all in the realm of MS making life miserable for power users so they can stuff the new Windows Subscription OS through the throats of "dumb" users.
@@coshvjicujmlqef6047 We call it Windows Secure Bloat where I work.
The Microsoft ceo told the programmers to prioritize security. Then they bricked vpn’s 😂
These are different things entirely and unrelated.
@@profosist not necessarily if Microsoft decided everything 3rd party is a security risk
@@Jafar-dr6to what are you even talking about...
If it's the warning about installing the app that's related to Windows Defender. Look at things like Smart Screen it's affected a number of things in the past.
@@profosist Microsoft has always preferred to have 3rd party software certified
Gotta secure your private data on our servers!
The one that gets me is that Microsoft, with the Windows 11 24H2 update, will be automatically applying Bitlocker encryption for all volumes on your device. Happens during the Windows install process but supposedly when you update an existing 23H2 system to 24H2. I DO NOT want my devices to have Bitlocker encryption on them, I have no need for that to occur and really, really hate that MS is making that an automatic/mandatory thing.
fyi there is a way to turn that off by adding a disabling key in the registry entry for bitlocker (works also during installation via cmd). Mental Outlaw just released a video for that.
@@KangMinseok Yeah, I know of the registry key for that, but I didn't know if that will remain/also apply if doing the update from 23H2 to 24H2. Every article I've been reading about that just talks about it's effectiveness during the Windows install process, not by an update.
Bitlocker screwed me over more often than it saved me. All my important data is on an external encrypted drive anyways. Disabled bitlocker because I was sick of entering the recovery key every few weeks because it decided something must've changed about my hardware after every Windows update.
@@Azurryu Happening on every CU? I hope I don't see that happen!
sooooo many people are going to lose data... this is insanity.
To my ancestors that refused to let go of Windows XP when everyone was switching to 7 and 8.
I understand you now
They're wrong bc 7 was good
But XP was also good and ran faster on existing hardware.
Your "bad manager" analogy is excellent. I have been using Ubuntu for my writing laptop for years because when I am trying to work on Windows (even Windows 10, but even more so on 11) it felt like trying to concentrate in a daycare center.
All those popups telling you about Km Kardashian or Olli Murs when you're trying to debug an email routing problem.
i done have any issues on 10, maybe the odd weather report. never have since turned off years ago
I use Archlinux after the whole Ubuntu Amazon partnership unity scopes fiasco. That was Canonical's screw up and they paid dearly for it at the time. Hopefully SteamOS can attract some of the big player and power users to the OS. Hopefully, we have Lord Gaben for a while longer.
Once Windows 10 goes EOL, I might think about making the switch to both Linux and Mac.
@@OctavioGaitan You should be working towards Linux right now. Start by using programs that are available under Linux as alternatives to Windows only programs. It's not the operating system that holds you back, it's if your programs only work on Windows.
I am in tech, working with Windows every single day. I have been growing increasingly disenchanted and frustrated with Microsoft and their non stop manipulation of Windows and their users. Microsoft has become increasingly intrusive and aggressive in their efforts to collect your data.
That's bc the MS revenue model turned to data mining, since they were unable to force everyone to actually buy a license key.
.... Wow, huge part of post DELETED. Guess some info not allowed?
@@raheesom I realize many don't pay for a key. For me it has gotten to the point where I would gladly pay an annual fee to use a version of Windows that leaves me the ability to use the O/S as I want to use it.
I manage and use a software/db intensive win10 image for work. Between monthly MS updates and macafee solidcore, every month is an uphill battle. 22H2 was a nightmare on our powershell scripts, and now we're testing for win11. This is going to suck. I have to say, tho, that win10 has deterred our wannabe expert users from "trying" things at work that they do on their home pc.
I only wish Linux were a real alternative. Don't get me wrong I work with both Linux and Windows every day and Linux excels in server roles but simply isn't meant to be a desktop OS.
@@MoreBollocks-ui2zs Why? If Linux is not good enough for Desktop then nothing is. Maybe you're still adjusting and will get it eventually. I had moments like that about Linux years ago. Now instead of saying "why can't I do it in Linux this way?" I usually say "why can't Windows work this way?" Really. Keep it up!
The drag & drop into the path bar was also something I used all the time! I'm so glad someone mentioned it, it was so weird when I tried to do it now on Windows 11 and it didn't work, then I looked it up and learned they removed it just because they felt like it (I think their actual reasoning was literally: "not that many people use it, let's just remove it"). The disrespect toward their own users is unreal.
That disrespect started when Vista came out. I remember the huge amount of critics they received exactly because of that.
KDE plasma and Mac OSX support this feature it pissed me off windows 11 removed it
I hate the new address bar. It doesn't make any sense. It shows less of the path compared to the old address bar and I constantly misclick the empty space between the folders, so instead of going to a previous folder, it edits the address.
Wtf I just realized this feature is gone now crazy!!
People often buy big, expensive high-resolution monitors *because they want more usable screen space*. Not usually due to having the visual cognition of a two-year-old. Then we have MS and the majority of current website creators tabletifying everything, scrolling down umpteen times to see content which should fit on an old 640x480 VGA display.
… It's somewhat akin to fitting a sports car with the same engine as a 49cc scooter.
Even with "printer-friendly" stuff e.g. statements, now it's triple line spacing with tiny fonts and acres of white-space. Requires FOUR sheets of paper? It could easily fit on ONE.
tables based layouts are not supposed to be used for new stuff. as far as i'm aware, flexbox layout is all the rage now for websites. where items can be made to fit with "flex-wrap: wrap;" for line wrapping items. but you can't prevent people from using the wrong tools
MS continuing to screw up desktop UIs is so damn baffling. Windows Phone FAILED, guys. Surface tablet marketshare consists almost entirely of people who bought it at clearance prices or fished one out of a dumpster. There is no unified UI to keep chasing.
Meanwhile, insane things that EVERYONE HATES stick around. What kind of animal uses drag & drop to move text selections?!
I call it Fisher-Price oversized UI
@@xybersurfer Tablet (like the iPad). Not Table.
@@teknixstuff yeah that's what it says now. but that part could have been edited
deal breaker for me, is not being able to move the task bar on to either left or right or top of the screen. It is LOCKED to the bottom of the screen. Like WHY?!
Same, I've had mine on the right side for like 15 years.
that's pretty crappy
There used to be a way to put a folder worth of icons on your taskbar; like a kind of "launcher" almost.
Never understood why they removed that; it was so useful. Sticking apps (ugh...) to the taskbar is so clunky compared to the convenience we used to have.
Unfortunately this has been the case since the start of 11. But task bar replacements have been an option to easily restore the 10 style taskbar and all it's features. These are the very options they are breaking with the latest update. Hopefully they will still find a way.
Absolutely, I think the designers at Microsoft with their 3 monitors don't quite understand that a laptop or a single monitor setup absolutely need the vertical space while keeping the taskbar active. When Apple is doing better job at UX, you know it's really bad.
The number of hidden telemetries within windows 11 is scary . . .
NT is the kernel, DWM is the window manager and it only exists since Windows Vista. Windows shell is the user interface, and it exists since Windows 95
Nah I just want my unix utils and bash and linux kernel. NT is a security swiss cheese nightmare. Windows is really only good for gaming still. However, Valve is making a pretty nice dent in that.
I knew it had gone off the rails when I went from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and when I inserted a USB drive it told me to "tap" to select it, on a desktop PC.
Tap! 🤦♀️
The last thing I want on my OS is it telling me I can't do something I want to do
Soon it will speak, too. One could maybe choose a German speaker. "Verbotten!" :)
Or Achtung!@@dddux
"You need administrative rights for that action, please call Microsoft Customer Service, we are available 24x7 from 9.01am to 9.02am. Thank you"
@@dddux Keine Sorge. Das ist für Ihre Sicherheit!
Customization is one of the most important things to me. Even explorerpatcher and openshell aren't enough. Windows should just have more customization options available for power users, i dont know why they don't..
indeed... on the new version of 11 I have to use all of those plus Start11 and Windowblinds just to get it to 80% of what I want.
I make do with Explorerpatcher because I really don't like having to run programs in the background at all times. It's enough to make it usable imo but I would like a few more options to perfect it.
I also run ShutUp10++ on every new install.
I miss the days of litestep 😢
More and more they prove they dont care about power users
Still a bummer having to spend extra money on 3rd party software to get back customization options when you used to have these options NATIVELLY.
As an IT admin who manages a Windows environment for around 250 end users I can honestly say:
Windows 11 CONSTANTLY gets in the way of me doing actual work. Edge takes over PAID FOR copies of Adobe reader pro CONSTANTLY. It always tries to take away prefered browsers and put Edge in their place.
It installs 3 different versions of Teams (with out my permission) even though we need Teams (work or school) to do parts of our job.
When MS office fails, it takes down the entire OS with it causing me to have to re-image the PC which is hours of work for me, and hours of lost work for the end user.
Win 7 let us choose what updates we needed, Win 11 forces them on us no matter what.
When I set up a new Win 11 install for a new employee, I have to:
Uninstall about 10-12 apps that are not needed in a business world
Disable UEFI Encapsule Updates from the BIOS
Jump through hoops to get local user accounts to work
deny MS account control about a half dozen times so MS doesn't take full control of the PC
be completely mercilessly attacked by unwanted windows updates.
Sounds like they should hire a real sysadmin...
Manageing Windows 11 is a different beast now. You really need to use Intune + Autopilot and use Intune policy settings to tweak it or GPO. Then you can control Windows Update, Start menu etc. You should not be doing manual setup anymore really. You can do it but as you see there are a bunch of blocks.
@@Sonyboj correct this is good info. You need to use the correct tools to manage things whether they be 1st party or 3rd party.
Sysprep a completed Win11 build image with a skip OOBE unattend file. If its standard office junk it'll take an hour or 2 at the most to prepare, then new machines only take 10 minutes to set up.
Don't let microsoft waste your time. What annoys me is Office 365 desktop apps failing to update and the OST file size limit for outlook. Completely useless, the web app has no such limit, why not base the desktop application off the same software?
@artisanbusiness1314 IT can be hell if you are working for the wrong people.
Despite Microsoft and Adobe awfulness, I love where I work and plan to retire with my current employer. The CEO is super cool and we get to do super cool things 😎
You've listed most of the reasons why most of my machines are still running W10, even got one on W7.
I bet those machines are mostly used as servers for stone age business crap.
most of mine are running W7, I have one new laptop that came with win 11, I wiped it and installed a fresh copy of w10. if it wasn't for knowing there was no way i was going to get drivers for it I might have tried windows 7 on it too.
I think one of the reasons Microsoft doesn't seem to care about cheap Windows keys is because there's no profit in them. Data mining is where they clean up, so I wouldn't be surprised if permanent ads on the desktop, or being forced to have a Microsoft account, become a reality.
forced to have a microsoft account is already here
@@iplyrunescape305 its pretty easy to skip that though,i did do that infact.
@@Damian-cilr2 it used to be possible but not anymore unless you use Rufus which does a registry edit for you on install. Some day that will be patched too. Microsoft is just allowing that method for now... Windows 11 knows it when you don't have a Microsoft account linked to the local user. some day it will lock you out until you sign in.
They're moving to a subscription model for most things. They don't care about the cheap Windows keys because they can charge you $6 a month for Office 365.
@@Damian-cilr2 (yt deleted my comment) not anymore. It's locked out in a recent update. The only way around for now is to flash the ISO with Rufus which contains a registry edit option to disable the Microsoft account. no other way for now
Sitting on windows 10 until defeated or moving to Linux. There is no third option, macOS is garbage too
Once you go Linux you'll never go back. Arch + Xmonad is the dogs bollocks.
I made the same decision after trying 11 for a few months and luckily 10 will be supported until 2032 so you'll be fine for a good while unless a lot of 3rd party software start dropping support in the coming years ;)
MacOS is a nice and well working OS, but the owners are competing with Microsoft who's gonna lose more users due to "security" and various restrictions they are imposing on users. Things we users usually call "buttfexk" 😆
@@dddux I've now been using MacOS for about +1 year. Before experience in Windows and Linux. My opinion is that MacOS is very meh OS. Like everyone is praising it, but getting into it UI window management out-of-box is like from Windows 95. Absolute utter dog shit. It's honestly hilarious how _bad_ it is. There are nice features like really well working file preview, but still. Not impressed at all and now seeing AMD getting really good in performance/power on laptops plus ARM. There's no way I'll buy another Mac.
@ThePuuFa you're mistaken, sir. Security updates end in October of next year unless you're willing to pay out the ass for a subscription to get "extended support" which will only get you another 3 years.
Desktop OSes are trying to figure out where they fit in and who their target market it as the landscape has changed. People who are not creating content, which is the majority, are rapidly moving to mostly using their phone or tablet when not at work. I've seen this with those in my own family who are not power users or PC gamers, they spend way more time on small screens devices than desktops. This is huge shift over the last ten years. Windows should be focusing more on the power users, business users, and PC gamers. Windows home as it stands is becoming irrelevant.
That's right. Desktop computers aren't nearly as popular as they were during the noughts and early 10s. A modern household can absolutely do away with WIndows if they have a smart TV (Android), Playstation console(s), several smart phones and pads that run iOS and/or Android. Unless you're using the computer for content creation - music, pictures, and videos, you don't need it.
sad but true.
the saddest part is that politics jumped on the bandwagon and gave out ipdas to elementary pupils instead of making them work with proper desktop PCs. and ipad will not prepare you to find a good job
Your Pepsi comparison illustrates a good point. They really should start releasing different versions of Windows. You could have a normie version of Windows which comes preinstalled and has all this fluff. But then they could have versions designed specifically for gaming or power users, or hell even a version specifically for VMs.
Eh its a bad comparison. The versions your talking about already exist. Windows Home is meant for Retail use and Pro is meant for Office work and power users. and for People who want no extra bells and trinkets (i.e power users) Windows Pro N. Then you also have Long Term Service Channel Windows 10 -2021 and IoT for systems that are meant in 24/7 uptime environment. It seems to me you guys are buying the standard Windows 11 and then having wrong expectations. Any way the whole philosophy behind Windows 11 Retail is to improve on Security standards, This by default limits people in capabilities which i think is a good thing because the overal majority of people on this planet do not know how to manage their system properly. You want less of that? buy a different Windows 11 version. Its not worse, its just not for you!
It already exists. It's called Windows Enterprise LTSC
windows 11 workstation edition pro n thats what i use ram usage is literally half
@artisanbusiness1314 Windows 11 LTSC will release on second half of 2024
@artisanbusiness1314 pro workstation n im using 1.5 gbs of ram out of 64gb for os after some mild cutting of services
I miss Windows XP.
You can still use it, as long as you don't connect it to the internet😉
I don't miss it at all. Why?? Because I am still using it!
@@johanb.7869 theres still brand new unnofficial security updates
opera browser used to work on xp just a few years ago, it was perfect for playing older games
@@johanb.7869 SomeOrdinaryGamers drone spotted, you can still use XP on the internet just fine if you know what you're doing and dont intentionally turn of all firewalls
Main reason I'm still using Windows is the ease of installing and running games, especially games that don't have a Linux variant.
You don't need Linux variants if you're running Steam games. It's as simple as Windows: click to install, no messing about. The problem is non-Steam games that require Lutri, which works well but requires some fiddling and can be problematic at times. Older games are hit and miss and AMD gpus have better support than Nvidia.
@@MoultrieGeekstop lying for the love of god, there is still a lot of problems with ptoton, steam install is still a mess..etc.
@@roklaca3138 I'll have to inform my Steam games that they are a mess. Who knew?
@@MoultrieGeek I have a robust Steam Library and MOST of the games DO NOT work in Linux... I wish they did.... But its not that easy to game on Linux.
@@MoultrieGeek Exactly, I'm an Nvidia user, so Linux is a no-go for gaming for me. Tedious workarounds and tweaks are just not worth the hassle and don't fix much, the Nvidia Linux drivers really just are abysmal. AMD users are lucky their manufacturer actually cares about Linux support, they even have ROCm. I have an AMD-based Laptop running most of my Steam games with zero issues. It's night and day and it's all because of Jensen.
I personally wish Microsoft could find a way to provide themes to make newer versions of Windows look and feel like previous versions, kind of like how 7 has the aero theme and the classic gray theme.
it already exists, it's called msstyles. MS simply doesn't care/doesn't want to bother with it due to them focusing on web-based apps instead of traditional win32 programs
also, i personally believe that microsoft doesn't have any experienced developers in their windows department anymore, as they basically only hire people for 18 months to not pay benefits to employees.
Google "Open-Shell"... makes my Windows 11 start menu look just like the Windows 7 start menu.
(Why Microsoft does not have that choice "built-in" is beyond me. Micro-Controlling Gobshites.)
I jumped off the Windows Wagon when the first foreshocks of ads being experimented with in the file browser hit us. I switched to Linux then, and it's been interesting to say the least. (Using a newbie distro, Mint, for reference.)
Certain things are ridiculously easy in Linux where I had some resistance in Windows. Things like recognizing printers is done seemlessly on Linux where if it sees the device on your network it will just add it to usable devices when you go to print. I've never had an easy time setting up printers on Windows. Another odd thing was I decided to install Microsoft Office 07 under Wine, and it gave me no hassle at all over my key. I've used this software cd/key since around 2008, and when I upgraded to Windows 10 it REALLY did not want me to be able to activate it. I ended up just having to leave the key in the software, keep using it while the activation timer kept giving me warnings, and eventually it gave in and just gave me my software activation. No such fuss on Linux.
Gaming on Linux really brings me back to my early days of computers for me (early 2000's in my case) where you can get most stuff to work, but you're going to have to work a little bit for it. If you stick to Steam it's really easy, but it gets more complicated when you want to run older games or mods. Thankfully the tricks you learn to get one game working will probably apply to many others. That sense of discovery really takes me back to when computers were new and exciting to me, as I didn't have everything quite figured out, and the possibilities of what the machine in front of me could do seemed endless.
The biggest downside of Linux for me is definitely the hard incompatibilities. There have been certain pieces of hardware that I initially thought I wasn't going to be able to run, like my GOXLR or my PCIe capture card, but with some headache I was eventually able to get running in some capacity. The biggest hurdle being, like you said, some of the creative apps not working fully or at all on Linux. One example for me being Vegas Pro. It's not supported on Linux, and only some older versions can run under Wine, and they come with big compromises. My options then are either to go without it, keep a windows install, or learn a new editing suite. The third option is probably what Ill end up doing, but I know thats a huge timesink and ball of frustration that I have to get through right off the start.
I do hope more people come to Linux. I don't think it will ever be the dominant OS, but I could see it being the one gamers use if it were to ridiculously easy to setup in 99% of games (right now it's probably 70% thanks to steam), and if the performance gap on Windows it has for games grew too big for gamers to ignore.
Linux isn't for everyone, but at least you can make it your own unlike Windows with all the telemetry, ads and other crap you don't want and it's free.
When i switched about 2 years ago, the printer thing surprised me. I had tried to do it about 10 years ago and it was a pain to get my printer working, but it looks like sometime in the interim, someone has put the time and effort into sorting it, and i agree, its a lot more seamless then Windows these days. Especially wireless ones.
I have been using Linux since Microsoft broke OS/2 Warp because I did not want to go to Windows 95. I have worked as a Linux Operations Admin with a DevOps team in the past so I am pretty expert with it.
Have you tried setting up a VM in VirtualBox for those apps that absolutely need Windows to work? I use a VM to run Quicken because what Linux is really missing is a good personal finance manager.
And I also have to use the VM to watch English Premier League Football (Soccer) on Peacock because they do an OS check and Peacock refuses to run on Linux because of "support issues". Never mind that ever other freaking streaming service runs great on Linux.
But I have to admit that I keep a Win 10 PC around for gaming and resource-intensive stuff like video editing. However, once W10 goes EOL I will probably get rid of Windows on the PC and just use VMs for those rare times I need to use Windows for something.
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@@ElTejanoLoco how is performance on a VM vs native? i have a 2tb ssd for linux on my pc out of the total, idk, 11 tbs i have on my pc. but i mostly use linux now so i think when i get a new 4tb ssd, i'll make it ext4 and use it as a buffer to transfer my old stuff to ext4 too, and i'll invert the current situation: only 2tb as ntsc for windows. anyway, i'd much prefer a VN over dual booting if performance isn't impacted. so how is it?
NOOOOOOOO Adobe is the LAST company that I'd be okay with making an OS! you know it's bad when even the government doesn't like them, since the US Government recently sued them for their insane *hidden* termination fee, I loved watching that unfold
Hear hear on the audio for Linux stuff. It's holding me back as well. BUT, the past year, more and more plugin devs have started bringing their plugs to Linux, which is absolutely amazing. When it comes to DAWs there's now Reaper, Bitwig and Studio One, all with official Linux versions. So things are actually happening, and they're moving in the right direction faster than ever before.
And yes, Apple had it right with the no touch screen on the laptops, because touch brings schizophrenia regarding the UI interactions and the result will be a shitty UI with worst of both worlds.
Wait... Studio One is on Linux? I actually like that one better than most. It's what my Dad uses too (he does bebop jazz mostly). I didn't like Bitwig's piano roll. FL studio has the best piano roll, which is why I use it. I don't like the workflow much otherwise, but I'm used to it. I'll give it a try soon. Thanks for posting this... I didn't even know.
Touch screens were actually useful on Windows 7 as an accessibility tool. I loved having one for scrolling web pages with a flick of the finger, rather than fighting with nasty laptop touchpads. Less important on Mac as Apple developed a much better touch pad where two finger scrolling actually works consistently. Interestingly there seems to be a lot of software involved in this, as it doesn't work nearly as well on Asahi Linux.
For a while it even felt like maybe Windows 8 was somewhat heading in the right direction by having a "tablet mode". The problem is rather than keeping this entirely independent of the desktop OS, they decided to also mess with the desktop UI for touch, which made no sense when 99% of users would never need it and it just made desktop mode worse.
@@teksyndicate Yup, Studio One for Linux is currently in public beta so it'll probably arrive for real in a not too distant future. Hey, come to think of it, I wouldn't mind you making a video on that, trying and evaluating Studio One on Linux and some of the snazzy free plugins that are available now. It's probably a lot of work, but the more content/eyes on Linux music creation the better.
Personally I have had nothing but great experiences with Linux audio no matter what I ran through. Pipewire is amazing since I started using it like a year ago.
Reaper+ReaSWS+ReaPack. And: u-he plugins, TAL plugins, DSP56300 synths (Virus C, Virus TI2, MicroQ, Microwave XT), Surge XT synth, Cardinal (VCV rack compatible) modular, Audio Damage plugins, LSP plugins, ACMT plugins, JonV FirComp, and I'm all set! I do use many other plugins I usually pick up on Github, but that is my base DAW setup and I don't need any WIndows/Mac plugins at all. I tried WINE and some Windows plugins - Valhalla fx plugins, and they work nicely. Not into this WINE thing though, I prefer native plugins.
I remember when everyone was laughing at Apple for lack of customization.
They still do 😂
Why. Why tf. Do I need to click “more options” if I want to copy or delete something ? Or go to a menu 😡
You don't. They are on the first right click menu, just replaced by icons instead.
still using windows 10 there is no reason to switch to w11
I switched to win11 just because I service machines owned by other people that run win11. I hate it! My desktop will be going back to win10pro next week. My laptop is still running win8, still my favorite.
Win 10 is about to be cancelled and left with no update. For me it is critical not to become a guy who uses archaic windows XP or 7 windows 7
I bought a new laptop with windows 11 because my old windows 10 laptop died. The OS didn't survive past 7 minutes before I recoiled from disgust and installed windows 10. And I still could only tolerate windows 10, not like it. I lost too much control over the OS
@@m.n.4370 Who gives a shit? Then I'll be using an outdated Win10...
Win10 is ugly AF (more practical, but ugly)
Windows 8 looked like one of those Kiosks in stores ore restaurants.
It was an ugly piece of shit, almost as big a disgrace as WinME.
Windows 8 was MSFT’s attempt to beat Apple at the computer + tablet + phone game. Back then, an app you got for your iPhone would not work on your iPad and Mac. You might have to get/buy the app 3 times!
MSFT wanted Windows, their tablet (now Surface), and the Windows phone to have consistent UIs (heavily influenced by the Zune!) so that users could seamlessly switch among devices and always have the same experience. It didn’t work. Then the Windows phone vanished. Now we have a desktop OS that prefers a touchscreen and often feels like a tablet OS, because it pretty much is (for the Surface).
I recall attending a Microsoft TechEd back when windows 7 was being released. There was a seminar talking about windows 7 and UAC. The presenter asked who were power users and most of the audience put their hands up. He then said - it's because of you that we have put UAC in place. . . And they've been taking stuff away ever since.
Why does MS remind me of Apple in this kind of situation? Apple got good at removing features. Now MS is taking pages out of their book!
The biggest loss in Windows 11 is the custom toolbar option on the taskbar. In Windows 10 (and earlier), I use it for my program access about 98% of the time. Very seldom do I use the Start menu.
It feels like every big company is slowly trying to copy Apple's ideology because they're too f'in arrogant to understand that they'll never be Apple, nor should they be. MS is using analytics to strip features used only by X percentage of users and want to eventually push everyone towards relying on Copilot.
It's an incredibly stupid move because just like the crap Samsung is doing now, they don't actually polish their product enough to justify it so you end up alienating your users to become a worse version than the company you're trying to copy. All while doing nothing to convince their users to switch over.
MS is so weird about the OS where they keep removing any user control people have. Then just doing things to make the general experience worse. I'm glad I switched to Linux.
Windows 11 just feels like a constant experiment with features appearing and disappearing at each release.
It really does. It's wild to me whenever I remind myself that Windows 11 is not in some pre-release/beta stage anymore and was officially released to the public 3 years ago. It really does feel like a janky beta version of an OS. Still.
At this point I’ve made a game out of picking through new W11 updates to see what’s been changed.
These days I only boot my W11 drive to let the girlfriend play her games or to access GamePass, so months pass between boots. Without fail, something has always changed for the worse in those months.
This is textbook enshittification in my eyes. They’re going to push ads, web apps, AI, and bloat while removing stuff we actually like. Can’t wait to see subscription model for Windows happen, that’ll be the day I stop dual booting entirely.
@@see-sharp You really got nothing better to do than patrol this video making brain dead remarks? Gate keeping Linux is how you prevent curious people from trying new things. You need to touch grass.
@@see-sharp I mean you say that, but I migrated from Windows to Debian when I saw what Windows 11 was going to be before it came out. People have different levels of inertia. Windows 8 was where I decided I didn't like Windows anymore, Windows 10 was like a ringing in my ears, and seeing Windows 11 was the last straw. Other people have different last straws.
Not so long ago I upgraded my desktop computer from Debain Linux 11 to 12. I didn't have to learn a whole new OS because the look and feel of it did not change. Furthermore, I didn't have to reconfigure ANYTHING because, if you have a separate /home directory everything just stays the same except now you have a more secure, up to date system. I never did understand why Microsoft feels the need to partially or totally wipe the slate with every new release. Eveyone liked 10's user interface apparently so why go effing around with it?
They hate their customers. Maybe they should bring back the Win 8 interface to make it plain. It is spots on a screen -- if you went through the trouble you could make it look and act like Win 7 or XP.
I am still using same Debian I installed in 2013, Different computer and 3rd hard disk, though. Installed Debian 7 (wheezy) then just upgraded at every .5 (like 9.5) version when they worked out most of the bugs. Now I'm on Debian 12. Great thing with Linux is that the UI you chose doesn't change, just things that really matter, like drivers and os functionality and services. When Debian 13 comes out, remember to edit "sources" file, apt update, apt --upgrade-all . Gone are the days of having to erase everything and start fresh. Only with Windows it's recommendable cos it gets slower with time due to stupid registry file. Cheers!
Does anyone remember TweakUI? We need something like that. I believe Windows XP and 7 was the peaks and it's all been downhill from there!
Yes, there are programs similar to the classic TweakUI that work with Windows 11.
For instance, Ultimate Windows Tweaker 5 is designed specifically for Windows 11 and offers a variety of tweaks to personalize and improve the system's performance.
Additionally, TweakUIX aims to replicate the functionality of the original Tweak UI for modern versions of Windows, including Windows 11.
XP was easy on the eyes, didn't have to squint to see anything. These minimalist UIs (10 and 11) may look more elegant initially but that wears off as you realize they are not nearly as visually ergonomic as XP. Tired eyes with the newer operating systems.
Windows 11 taskbar is a disgrace to humanity.
Because it looks like every other Windows taskbar ever?
You a bit exaggerating 😂
@@GiraffeSweatersOnly to the blind.
Eh it's just a taskbar
@@GiraffeSweaters it has removed a lot of functionality, its a dumbed down taskbar and i dont know who asked for it, i dont know any person for whom the task bar was to complex to be used, that this had to happen
I’m honestly considering switching to another OS. From their inability to regain the search functionality of win8 to removing quality of life features and so much more it’s at a point that I literally have a thread on my Discord solely for Windows issues.
I suggest you try a few Linuxes to see if you find them OK. Linux Mint can be made to boot from an external USB hard drive. This means you don't need to even touch the Windows drive.
PopOS is the best linux, give it a try.
Debian bro
@@see-sharp Well I'm not the kind to stay loyal to a company. I can't ditch Windows outright but I can experiment with the OS and maybe see something I like and stick. I've already started installing suggestions on my other drives.
It seems Linux is gaining more and more momentum these past years and Windows heading the other way so what better time.
"A lot of people will start moving to Linux"
This guy in 1999
This guy in 2024
This guy in 2050
This guy in 2075
Thats right!
am ded
Until it relies less on terminal for basic tasks, gets app compatibility, gets driver compatibility and stops having major bugs,
This guy in ∞
Windows 8.1 with openshell is basically a better and more stable Windows 7, legit my third favorite Windows version after XP and 7
Yep my spare laptop has 8.1 it just works 67 processes once configured and with a slow 4 core amd 7600 manages to be almost as snappy as thinkpad p16s with 6850u 55w 8 core
windows 8 is awful, even if using open shell. it has worse compatibility than windows 7.
Too bad Openshell has some broken cosmetic features with Windows 11 or I'd still be using it ( I've been using it with Windows 10 since it was called Classicshell). Startallback works great though and it "just works" with Windows 11. (tip: change the visual style under the Start Menu configuration to "default" if you want both sides of the start men translucent)
My father is still using 8.1 and I won't force him to update. His 12 year old 8.1 PC runs smoother than my gaming laptop with the newest hardware running 11, with the major difference that Windows 11 also regularly gets into my way. Unfortunately software I need for work and gaming won't allow me to completely switch to Linux yet.
I say this to people and they think I’m a moron. Windows 8.1 was bulletproof compared to Windows 10 in my opinion. I don’t remember it crashing or forcing updates. I used 8.1 until the bitter end.
There is a reason why I downgraded to Windows 10
*Upgraded
@@The_One_Eyed_Rouge *nerd mode on*
technically it's an upgrade
*nerd mode off*
@@xpower7125 🤣
I will be doing the same next week.
I never left windows 7 :)
spent two hours arguing with microsoft that changing my motherboard shouldn't mean i need a new key 90% of my pc is the same parts
Windows is becoming a SaaS. The built in ads and lockdown of customization is just more of an effect of that push. In the end, I think their goal is to become an ad platform, not an OS. Which is why i'm going to have to continue to nope out of it. 10:50 - That is the furthering effect of making these computers for mainstream audiences. They don't cater to power users anymore. They just want warm bodies and eyeballs attached to the machine (to serve ads). 14:20 - Another reason I can't stand this stupid os. Locking out programs? It's my damned machine, i'll run whatever the hell I want. Just wait until they get rid of regedit and lockout your ability to modify the registry (for a start).
If anything, i'll stick to running multiple machines with some older versions islanded away. I don't care enough to keep using this stupid os to keep hacking around it to get it to get out of my way.
Don't call it "Software as a Service", because there's a much better name for what you get: "Service as a Software Substitute".
@@Roxor128 Yes, but in a roundabout way that's what SaaS is. They just want people to pay monthly to use the devices they already paid for. And then on top of it, serve them ads that they can make money on as well. It's all very predatory.
I got a fairly new gaming laptop about 6 months ago that was pre-loaded with Windows 11. My old laptop was a Windows 10 model that I didn't have a ton of issues with. Within about 3 weeks of me having the Windows 11 one, I had to look up how to downgrade to from Win 11 to Win 10 and never looked back.
The reason? RAM Utilization. For some reason, Windows 11 would hog about 45% of the memory, from a cold boot. That's with nothing else running. It would go up to about 70-80% the longer I would let it run. The laptop had no innate Malware or Spyware, or pre-installed garbage. I even did a fresh install of Windows 11, and it still had this problem.
Went back to Windows 10, and no problems at all.
Just because it's allocating the memory doesn't mean it's using it. It'll free up the memory if needed. It's just trying to be ready for when you open different programs and perform different tasks - that way they can be loaded quicker.
It's there, It's Fast, So why not use it.? They've borrowed a bit from database servers and using up extra to speed things up when running. I guess more an allocated than actually using, and it frees up and adjusts as needs be.
@@sociallyferal4237 Because I didn't tell it to use it? And when I actually needed to do something, like have more than 2 Chrome tabs open, or play a game, it wouldn't give it back?
Thanks for convincing me to switch back to W10!
See the main difference between Windows and Linux is: While Linux has been getting better, Windows has been getting worse.
It's not that impressive that Linux is getting better. It has been dog shit for years, so the only way is up. Windows is the opposite.
When I bought my 13900k build last year, it didn't take my previous Windows 10 installation, so since I had to start from scratch I decided to start with Windows 11, the first red flag that I faced was that I couldn't proceed with the installation because it needed to connect to the internet, and for some reason it was not finding the drivers needed to use either LAN or WLAN on my new Z790 motherboard, so I had to work around it by using the uGreen USB to LAN adapter I had bought to use on my Nintendo Switch for Online play, and then I was able to proceed with the Windows 11 install as the drivers for that other device were recognized, and then I pushed myself to use Windows 11 for about a month, and as I installed more software/drivers I noticed stability issues, and then when I actually tried doing my usual stuff such as using emulators or virtual machines I also encountered issues with those activities, but the thing that broke the camel's back for me was that File Explorer started crashing randomly, and I was also noticing slow response from the interface where when I tried right clicking stuff and etc, it would take some time to populate the context menu, and that's when I said screw it and did a fresh install for Windows 10, and unlike Windows 11 that had issues with the drivers for the Z790, I had a smooth installation from start to finish and now its basically 1 year later, and I can't report any issues on my Win 10 22H2 installation except for the one time where the KB5034843 update brought some strange slowdowns, but after uninstalling that I was able to resolve the slowdown issues with it, and I can't really complain as I've been able to do everything that I want now, and if I do want to have the Windows 11 experience, then I just boot up VMWare Workstation and run an install I have for Windows 11 on there.
I know your comment is 2 months old, but you should be concerned about your Intel CPU. There's a problem with the 13th and 14th gen causing CPUs to die, you should look into it.
Windows 11 made me go to Linux and I love it on Linux Mint. Microsoft has pushed my patience over the edge and now that Linux has become viable for gaming thanks to Valve, it was time for me to finally try it.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux😉
How do I prevent W10 from accidentally updating to 11? It keeps offering the upgrade all the time, I'm afraid a wrong move, a wrong click results in an unwanted switch...
disable TPM. and use group policy to disable it.
@@coshvjicujmlqef6047 Thanks!
Win11 is worse than Vista
Vista with Service Pack 2 was actually quite good.
Using Win8.1 with Shell menu app for the last 5 years faster than Win10 and Win11 with crappy UI and Apple approach "do it our way not your way".
8.1 is the best windows version
1. For many years since 16:9 and 16:10 LCD screens became common I started to move taskbar to the left side of the screen. When Windows 11 disabled that option I told to myself that I won't be using unofficial hacks as this is something that I expect from OS. Now that they fight with them I'm even more upset with it. I tested W11 for few days and then I went back to W10 as I didn't saw any advantage in new version. I will rather move to Linux full time than being forced to use taskbar at the bottom.
2. Microsoft don't listen and Microsoft don't care. Windows is not important to them as they get money from different products like Azure, XBox, CoPilot and so on. Tiny little changes take years because there's almost nobody working on it. And people who work there change every few years with new trendy unfinished ideas they bring. Look - only cool feature of Windows 11 was Android Subsystem and now it's gone.
Who still remembers... XP Antispy (website still exists btw., frozen in time since 2015).
This battle has been ongoing since the literal dawn of the century...
In IT for 25 years. Agree 100% on all your points. I still run W10 on all my personnel systems and refuse to go to W11 (not ever) unless they undo the direction they are heading.
Fun Fact: 70% percent of the World is still running W10 not W11, in fact there are more W10 users this year than there were last year which means PEOPLE don't like W11. MS ... Get a clue
I refuse to move to 11.. I already dumped my flawless 7 to move to 10 cause games started NOT supporting 7.
I have no idea why I need to install a brand new operating system that is basically the same as the previous ones
just to install a triple A title I'm going to play for 30 minutes and uninstall cause I wanted to play a game
not watch a movie and hit X a few times before the credits roll
also if you have a problem with an nvidia driver and you roll back to a previous version
and you finally find that version that works and doesn't crash your system every 5 minutes
you wake up the next morning only to find out that windows update UPDATED YOUR NVIDIA GPU BACK TO THE NEWEST VERSION
YAY~~ SO NOT ONLY DO I HAVE A VERSION THAT IS CAUSING ME PROBLEMS AGAIN!
BUT IT UPDATED IT WITHOUT USING DDU LIKE A NORMAL PERSON CAUSE ITS A SOULLESS PROGRAM!~ YAY~
SO NOW I HAVE TWO DRIVERS SITTING ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER LIKE A BULLY SITTING ON A NERD!~
YAY~~~~~~~~~
Windows XP SP3 (even "ZverDVD" repack) always gonna have special place in my heart.
Ah, and Windows 7 too.
With each new version of Windows, I always hack the GUI and functionality to work/look like Windows 7/Vista. That is what I feel comfortable with, that is my "Windows zen."
it can't look 100% the same and with updates can get strange but i appreciate developers work
you "hack it" by downloading classicshell
@@namesurname4666 It's okay thou, as we still get some new functionality from Win10 or 11. So on my W11 setup, it looks most like Win7 + Win11 (curved corners). Depending on how I do it, Start Menu is XP/NT style or Win7. The W11 start menu look neat, but its a huge bloated mess with ads and junk I don't need.
Either way, Win11/12 isn't designed for power users.
Why is MS being such an a$$hole about Windows 11? I'm at 23H2 and disabled updates, got Openshell, RetroBar and Winaero tweak app, made it look more like XP.
Start going to Linux? I'm actively pushing people to Linux! No more Windows in my house, period!
The backbone of my house is Linux (servers, nas, etc.)... but I'm hostage to Windows on my main
good luck supporting all those people on Linux
@@xybersurferI've had far fewer tech support requests and they are vastly more about user forgetting something simple with Linux (Pop!_OS mostly) than "Microsoft pushed an update that prevents my software from running" or "Microsoft pushed an update that slowed down my whole system" which is most of my Windows tech support requests.
Doors allowed still?
@@xybersurfer So far there's less need for "people-support" on Linux when compared to Windows in my household (for the same people using both Windows and Ubuntu).
Now that you mention it (2:12), I don't think I've ever contacted any company about software/OS problems.
People who say "it will never get better" as they suck up everything MS does to them will make that a self-fulfilling prophecy.
People like to moan. Their actions say they don't care, really. Because if they did, they would switch. I hate politics and the people in power, yet I don't vote nor have any plan to.
Windows NT was available on desktops much much earlier than 2000. MS had HUGE success with 3.51 and then even MORE success with NT 4.0. in fact, Win2k was mostly WinNT 4.0 with the Win 95 interface.
Quickly, announce Windows 12!
nah going to pull a windows 9 and skip lol
12 is announced, it's going to be a "primarily AI OS"
do you *really* expect MS to magically not be crap with their new OS?
@@Thatswildpimp Yeh "Windows Nein!" (German) lol
@1:18: You can't turn off telemetry. You only can set it to 'less'. If you have an Windows Educational license, you can set 'Allow telemtry' to '0 (Security)'. (There _still_ is data collection. But with Windows Professional or Windows Home you can't set it to '0 (Security)' ).
At least, that was Windows 10. I'm not sure if the same goes for Windows 11.
You can't turn off telemetry, because you can't block 'svchost.exe' (then Windows would stop working). It is totally uncertain what those processes do with telemetry, it is all closed source. You can and _should_ assume that a number of those processes are used to find out what you are doing (hence: gathering telemetry).
Upcoming Microsoft Neptune chips (if not already incorporated in Intel/AMD/... chips) make things radically worse, with those chips Microsoft can do anything they want with your PC if it is connected to the internet. Anything. (They can block you from installing Linux, _if they choose so!) And they will (spy), if law enforcement asks them to do so.
@1:08: 'Windows 10 is a good manager': I would not go that far. You need a _ton_ of modifications before it is good usable. And often you can't change something without _at the same time_ also change other things. That's a major pain in the ass.
'Windows 7 is a great manager': At least better than Windows 10. I liked the basic Windows 2000. Not riddled with hundreds of unwanted processes. But of course, we can't run w2k anymore (no security updates).
Windows NT is the kernel. The Desktop Enviroment is dwm.exe and explorer.exe
Now it's xml.exe everything gets cheap browser based
@@Galax2000 I get the joke but it's the same in Win11 :)
I love the desktop window manager in windows, it's so clunky and weird and mysterious for me.
There is so little documentation on how it works, like for example, there's these 2 specific functions inside the binary, one of them is responsible for how 3d window animations are drawn on screen and another one for 2d.
In windows 8, they essentially... removed the 3d function? I mean it still exists there in Windows 11 to this day, but it's literally the same as the 2d one.
So if you somehow port a Windows 7 MSSTYLE and load it inside a windows 11 installation, you'll notice that the opening and closing animations of the windows are still 2d (but in the style of Windows 7)
And then DWM proceeds to take up 6 gigs of ram every now and then so I gotta use task manager to kill it cause microsoft doesn’t know how to fix simple memory leaks in their software, honestly embarrassing
@@MemeReviewer DWM takes atleast ~100 mb (unmodded)
I don't use Linux for one reason: games. Not because the games can not be run on Linux, but because the configurations to make them run is a pita. I recently tested a couple of Linux variants and installed/configured Baldur's Gate 3. The game ran fine. But I don't want to be tasked with the hours of workarounds to make them run.
Dualboot
Just run a distro with gaming as its focus like nobara/garuda/cachyos then. Minimal configuring on any of those
I got so frustrated that I could not move the taskbar to the left of the screen I switched to MacOS. I would have moved to Linux if it had adobe or affinity software.
I hope to see your video on this abomination of a OS soon.
As someone who only reluctantly updated from Windows 2000 to XP and from XP to Windows 7 only after certain games and programs started demanding kernel functions not present on previous OSses I literally don't understand why people have "upgraded" to Windows 8, 10 or 11 from Windows 7? Is it the MS's "you absolutely cannot use OS that doesn't get security updates anymore" scare tactics? The need to have the newest and "greatest" version of Windows? Maybe I'm missing something here but I'm still using Windows 7 and ONLY at start of this year I have had some minor problems with "outdated" internet browsers started having problems with certain sites and that was easily fixed by changing browsers. Then again nowadays I have zero interest in new games, especially the AAA ones, so I don't know if latest games require newer versions of Windows?
PS. If there was a 64-bit version of Windows 2000 and hardware supporting it that would be my dream OS, nothing has come anywhere near Windows 2000 as far as user interface is concerned. Anyway when Windows 7 finally becomes unusable for me I'm switching to Linux as then I'm done with Windows and it only getting worse for the last 20 years.
I'm on Debian now, but I was using Windows 10 before. All of my Windows upgrades have happened as a result of laptops breaking and me buying a new one. I suspect that's the case for most Windows customers.
I ran into an issue where certain software required Windows 10. Otherwise I wouldn't have upgraded to 10. I am now in the process of switching to Linux and keeping a small Windows 10 install (dual boot) for the few apps I need to use once in a while.
For me it was games. I was happy on win7, but because I got a new dx12 card at the time, I went on to win10. I see that win7 supports dx12 now thanks to the Chinese Market and their love of wow. If I could play every game on 7, I would, but some games require the latest update to win10 now which is the only thing stopping me going back to 7.
Personally, I could care less if there is a 64 bit version of 2000. I main 7 myself, and I too don't care about modern games, but believe me, if I could main 2000, I 100% would, even if I had to downgrade my hardware a bit. And even so, there is the extended kernel so at least there are some decent browsers for XP that can work on 2K
You sound exactly like me more than 10 years ago. But I switched, first dual booting for some time and then erasing Windows when I figured I didn't need it anymore. ;)
Re: "Stick with Windows 10 for as long as humanly possible."
That was about 3 partial days for me.
Getting character sizes so I could read from about 30" away from my monitor was impossible.
Deal killer: no frames around windows. "Frames" are often called "borders". So I found myself hunting for the edges of grey windows sitting on top of other grey windows.
What fathead came up with the idea of frameless windows?
I am using Windows 7 Home, despite its refusal to use the upper half of my machine's 32GB memory. Thanks for nothing, Microsoft.
(Linux is worse. Is there no hope?)
Dude, you can make character sizes so large you can read them from 30 ft away, but you're going to need a much bigger monitor, like 65" and reduce the resolution.
Borders around windows is a good feature. Especially thin colored borders. There's a couple tweak programs for Windows 11 that may do it. I'll look into that.
Thanks for your post.
Even 23h2 was a nightmare to customize. I’ve perfected it but I’m not even touching 24h2, it’s gonna be next to impossible
I just said "screw it" and installed Startallback, now Windows 11 works like Windows XP, as it should.
One word
Windhawk
I am still on 22H2 on my (unsupported) PC although my bootable USB has a installer for 23H2
Don't worry 24H2 will undue all those changes. I lately had audio glitching on Windows, so I said screw this and Linux has no issues.
@@phoenixrising4995 I tried to install the AMD ROCm toolkit on Ubuntu 24.04 and it bricked my install because they deprecated parts of Python that the AMD SDK needs to compile. Went back to windows because I need ROCm to run Stable Diffusion.
You mentioning the GUI dates back to Windows NT made me reminiscent of my MCSE on NT 4.0 days back in 1996. Yes, I used NT 3.51 BEFORE Win95 came out. It needed a boatload of RAM when there was collusion going on between manufacturers and RAM cost about 50$ PER MEGABYTES back then.
Microsoft, is trying to be Apple while trying to make you forget that Linux exists by integrating random features. If they just focus on being Microsoft, and listening to what their users want, they could recover. I don't see that happening any time soon.
I'm on Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC because it's a Windows 10 build with support till 2032, and after that is over I might go over to some LTSC version of Windows 11 that supports explorer patcher, but also has security updates.
@@R0d_1984 I don't have a good source explaining Windows IoT Enterprise LTSC, because it's meant for embedded devices. It's not bloated and doesn't even have the Microsoft Store (you can install it yourself) but there is no way for a consumer to buy this version of windows you can in get it in not so legal ways.
go for linux by then
@@Dumbass2011Kid no thanks
I’m in basically the same situation as you. I have Linux on several machines but for my main I’m stuck with Windows 10 as primary because of FL using VST’s, Midi, Adobe CC, and a couple other programs. I remember playing around with seamless RDP MS RemoteApp into Linux there was a project that allowed opening of files and worked very well for office. As Windows 10 end of Support approaches I will be playing with this again and hopefully getting FL to work. I plan on having a VM or other server running the version of Windows for the specific programs. I’m hoping it can be window server otherwise I plan on locking down, securing, and stripping 10 as much as possible to be in a state where it can defer updates as I’ve done for clients that need to use legacy versions of Windows for old vital business software / machinery. That’s the plan at least, but a new GUI for windows would be an interesting option. Edit: needed to mention I don’t use windows 11, I never liked it. Stuck with 10 and have no intention to use 11 as daily.
I dual boot. I have a small partition for Windows 10. Enough for the OS and some room for Ableton Live, FL Studio and a graphics design app. I use Linux unless I need to use one of those apps. The vast majority of what I need can be done on Linux. If it weren't for those few pieces of software I wouldn't have a Windows install at all. All other PC's are in the process of being migrated to Linux as soon as I backup the files.
Spitfire and Kontakt working under wine and yabridge here with REAPER on Linux. On Arch BTW!
I actually had no idea they removed the drag and drop function in the addressbar.. ive been on windows 10 1909 LTSB because i cant stand windows11, but i didnt realize they went that far.. damn..
in the Greek alphabet (Alpha Beta), Cairo is XP (Chi Rho).
Cairo shell is so called because 'Windows XP' was always called Windows Cairo.
... except that in Greek 'chi' is pronounced _chee_ and not "kai"
Only Americans seem to have the propensity to round ever 'i' into an "eye" sound. For most other Anglophones, and all non-Anglophones an 'i' always indicates an "ee" sound.
@@toonedin sure but that doesnt change the intent Microsoft had when they named it.
It's true that the shell is called Cairo Shell, but XP stands for eXPerience AFAIK.
@@dddux they are coincidental. it was a vague general reference to the Rosetta stone, bringing all of Windows under the NT shell while still supporting 9x to the extent tast it did, including drivers hw & sw. the eXPerience branding you refer was as much a rebranding of the plus from earlier 9x versions and later recycled as SXS in 7 & later as 'side by side'. all really non sequitor which is what we come to expect when Microsoft names something.
i realize it doesnt make a lot of sense anymore but it was their original intention behind the name.
If you manually force install a driver the window that comes up is so old it asks you if you want to look on the A drive for the file not even the C drive first
yes, it so funny, most of people even don`t know why it`s A drive :D
Windows 7 is undoubtedly the last GREAT version of Windows, in my opinion. It was also the last Windows version that felt like a TRADITIONAL desktop operating system.
Windows 8 and later releases are a disease. They stripped a lot of legacy functionality that eariler versions of Windows used to have, and they introduced various controversial UI design choices that impacts usability especially on traditional desktop and laptop computers to tailor more to users that have a touchscreen device. Microsoft also started to move away from pleasing power-savy users and instead pleasing average users that don't care about if their product is bad or not, they will use what is in front of them.
Once Microsoft transitioned Windows to a software as a service model with Windows 10 with the present day Windows as a Service model, the downfall got even more worse as we started to have advertisements shoved down our throats across the operating system, it took away complete control of Windows updates, telemetry data collection that spies on you and sends everything that you do on your computer to Microsoft and distruptive major feature updates that make large changes that remove large amounts of functionality and messes up your Windows configuration.
Windows 7 was so peak. I still use it on my secondary computer. As i have since 2010.
Does the classic context menu Registry hack still work in 24H2? That will be a dealbreaker for me if it doesn't.
Talk to the developer or whatever program hasn't put their items in the new menu to put it in the new menu
Has more users use Windows 11 programs have slowly been updating
It doesn't work. I tried it.
Microsoft tries to get rid of old metro and legacy UI elements and replacing them with cheap XML html based shit. Ofc they also get rid of the context menu and replacing it with the new ugly one
@@profosist it will take a decade for the behemoths like Autodesk to move their shit. Good luck getting smaller companies to move their stuff...
my pc became trash with W11. I am not sure what they are doing, but W11 literally made my PC useless. Unbearable stutter and IPC lag. Now with W10, everything is as it should be. W11 is horrific.
I have switched to MacOS recently, and now that I am used to it, going back to Windows almost feels like I'm fighting the OS sometimes.
Definitely relatable for me 😂 I’m not used to installing updates every restart anymore
They also develop windows 11 as simultaneously working with Surface tablets. Thats apparently why stuff like taskbar management is missing. Idk why they can’t have two builds but I assume that’s them being to cheap to qa two systems.
Microsoft doesn't QA anything anymore. They fired their QA department. Now they just roll the bugs out to users.
Technically the interface for Windows 11 was Windows 10x which was supposed to be for arm based and multi screen surface devices however both of those did utterly horrible.
This was also followed by the call that it would be bad to just cut off support for Windows 10 for certain devices and not others. Since they already had the development versions of the new interface for 10x they use that for 11 then instead of dropping a subset devices they can just drop a whole operating system.
Yeah, but they are the richest company... so they are crazy to do this
@@teksyndicate It is crazy yeah. I certainly don't agree with it, but the writing was on the wall when they let go of most of their windows QA team years ago. It would be the same if Windows Phone took off, because they would eventually be on this OS anyway.
I switched from Win11 to Linux Mint on my laptop recently... I run the same software in Mint, Audacity, Fre:ac, all run much better than they did in Windows.
Also, the laptop is much faster and the cooling fans run much slower/more quietly, laptop puts out far less heat.
Now I've changed to Linux I won't be going back to Windows, also it has extended my laptops life for another couple of years, which saves me money and is more environmentally friendly.
True, it's really heavy on hardware and resources.
Also So many background processes
I wonder if the upcoming Win11 LTSC version will be alright. I am currently running Win10 LTSC and it's fine. less bloat in LTSC versions.
I love the lengths people will go to in making Windows 10/11 behave as much as possible like Windows XP. Can't say I blame ya. Those were the days of super simple configuration and maximum customizability.
Exactly what you said in you this video is how I feel about it. Look, I really want Windows to be good like Windows 7 or 10, but it just tries to get in your way all the time now. The fact that they remove the old code means they don't let the user use their software , no. They tell the user how to use the software.
Like you, I have a few Windows programs I need. Other than these few programs I use Linux now. I'm done. I tried to hang around but enough is enough. Looking out for the video where you show the software you can't go without 💪🏻
I will say this, an unactivated Windows install that I've had for a while when The OEM key that I had didn't work, got to say it's probably the smoothest windows experience I've had so far with 10. I mean I did the whole thing with the region global, and jumping out of the startup, alt f3, then created the user account with group manager... And that significantly helped my initial outing... But with the exception of the watermark that shows up, I don't think I've ever had an issue like I used to have with an activated account.
I'm not saying this is the way, and the watermark is annoying, and I had to do some registry hacks to get the task bar to minimize. I still had to you know do the standard pulling services and making sure that apps are just not working at all as much as possible.. and do some things in group permissions to you know make sure some things stay off.
But.. This used to be a daily struggle, whereas I really haven't had to mess with it The last few months. Biggest downside is if I want to get rid of the watermark I got to restart every couple of hours, which hasn't turns out is probably one of the better things for Windows given it's run time issues..
The only reason I held off getting a new key was cuz my Microsoft account got hacked, and I didn't want to do anything until I had that sorted, which of course never lol you don't get that sorted. which really hammered the point home, the Microsoft account, the one account to rule it all, bad idea in general.. and skipping that process was a boon probably for more reasons than that I wanted to shorten the process of turning my computer back into a computer from a cell phone..
Haven't talked with anybody that knows things as to if this is a just a repeatable thing, end for a lot of people this would be very difficult, cuz you can't do things like scale ui and whatnot.
But for me, I don't need a custom background I need a black screen and a task Bar that disappears. I need my software to work when I want it to work, I need my settings to stay, I need programs to do what they're supposed to do and shut down when they're not..
Honestly I almost don't know if I want to activate Windows at all, cuz I feel like I might be killing a unicorn here or at the very least that semifunctional goose.
I have completely debloated Windows 11 and removed my sign in details when logging in. Will these changes still effect me? Will I still need to switch to Linux Mint?
My suggestion to any windows user is to experiment with Linux NOW. Dual boot it, or install it on an old computer, and learn how to do your common tasks on Linux. This way, when Microsoft eventually makes Windows deal-breakingly bad, you will have an easier time moving to Linux. And trust me, it's only a matter of time. Eventually, you'll want to run 90% on Linux and run Windows as dual boot or VM for the few things that require it.
As a Linux user, I agree with your points. It's going to be a slow drip, drip process. Average users are becoming more tech savvy. Hopefully, the big software vendors will jump onboard. Eventually. The one question I have for Microsoft, is why? Seriously.
"Average users are becoming more tech savvy" Really? Where? Please show me. I haven't met anybody in the real world who owns a proper computer in years.
@@lboston4660 certainly in the UK. I would regard most of my colleagues as computer literate. It's become essential in the world of work now. I can't speak for foreign countries, however.
Maybe once Windows is subscription based, more users will make the switch.