I have been out of the car audio field for almost 20 years now and Peter's channel dropped into my feed. I have watched almost all of the videos here and want to say thank you to you Peter, I have found the motivation to build a quality system again. Your no bullshit attitude towards creating top quality builds reminds me that people can still appreciate what I enjoyed back in the 90's. Please keep loving what you do and I will see you next time on PSSound...
Great video Peter!! This is another level of installation. It shows your love for what you do. You're simple the best . Thank you for the awesome video 🙏👏
Great and outstanding work peter and I totally appreciate the step by step narration from you and the ability to deliver on the customer request and more ✊
Superb installation Peter, addicted to your channel. Having a jl audio dsp added to my system next week, I'm looking forward to hear the difference in sq.
Peter i ran somee 12ga stinger HPM wrapped in techflex to my doors and i also took over an hour for 1 door lol. i feel your pain and now im not ashamed about how long it can take when it takes a pro the same amount of time.
Awesome Job Peter, Gave me some idea's for my 2020 Camry Build cause I don't want to weight the car down to much as I want to do SCCA autocross too! Bravo "Listen Till It Hertz!"
Thanks 4 sharing. Sometimes subwoofer selection is endless. I did a 4th order bandpass enclosure for someone, after install and everything, they said the response was too deep.
Your video's always give me ideas, and always informational. I've actually thought about doing an metal amp rack build and I have a small question in regards to doing so, it might be a bit of a dumb question but I would rather ask someone who has the experience. So my question is seeing as a lot of amplifier manuals say not to mount the amp directly to metal when mounting them to eliminate possible floor noise, did you use rubber washers in between the chassis to rack & mounting hardware to rack to isolate it from grounding out so to speak?
rps13joe we didn’t isolate in this case and had zero issue. However, it’s a valid question, which could be shared on forums, so more experienced people, especially some amp manufacturers could chime in too.
Great video again! How is the sound quality from Most and android auto compaired to something like Fiio to dsp. Thinking of buying a Most150 converter. Its expensive:'(
Yes, if you need MOST150 for some of the new cars, then it’s not cheap. That’s the price we pay for these modern cars! BMWs sound great on MOST25 if you play lossless, FLAC or Tidal, so it’s absolutely fine for most people.
Insane, I love it. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a BMW 740i E38 with 2 JBL W12 GTI sealed. You make me think about it and I want to try IB. Are 2 units of JBL W12 GTI suitable for IB? Best Regards from Malaga (SPAIN)
Jorge Torrejón i’d always use as much cone area as possible, but i guess it’s also about expectations and requirements. Some people are happy even with a single 12” in trunk IB, but some others want the dynamics of 2x15-18”. JBL GTIs have always been used around the SQ circles in IB, but it’s definitely not an application for those who focus on output. They can certainly be louder in the main passband of 30-60Hz in a box, but IB is always more linear, less boomy and has way better extension under 30Hz all the way down to single digits when done right.
@@pssound9749 thanks a lot for the answer. I am a SQ fan, so I don't want a boomy system. I have Helix tube amps for my mids and tweeets. I just want more extension in the low frequencies, because even with 2 12" GTIs, it is really difficult to make the bass get into the cabin. It is curious how much isolated the trunk is in this BMW. The rear seats can not fold down, i have only the hole of the rear armrest, the hole for the skies
Bro, I feel you so hard with the speakercables in cars. did a F22 M235i. one run 2,5mm2 and one 4mm2 for big doors. Same OEM plug as in this F90. Same bulshit with electrics behind the panels with removing all of them for the job. 6hours of pulling cables through that shit. With drilling that OEM Plug. I fkn hate it. but got it done. Love your work BTW
I really enjoyed this install, even though I haven’t gotten serious about car audio in about 15 or more years, the video has given me a lot of ideas that I’d like to see in my own car one day. I am also reminded on how complicated but fascinating car audio is compared to home theater and audio. I have 5 subwoofers and 11 different speakers in my theater system and it was no where as complicated as this install. Would’ve loved to hear the end result, awesome work! One question though, I noticed that you decided to keep the under seat subs, is this because you are able to EQ the deficiencies out? I am actually thinking of replacing mine for the Audioson s in hopes of more mid bass kick.
@@pssound9749 I would love to see you do a infinite baffle blow thru for a crew cab pickup truck I've tried this and I got some incredible Bass but not in your professional way I want to see you pull this off I have 4 Fi ib3 18 v2 subs ran at 0.5 ohm All I can say is oh my GOD on a lanzar optidrive 3201 which can be wired to 1/2 ohm no problems ...please comment..
@@pssound9749 ok, I’ve seen them before on their website. The one with the red baskets. Looked nice but couldn’t find any T/S parameters on the site of ESB. Looks robust, better quality in comparison to other BMW under seat woofers of other brands.
@@pssound9749 thanks for your reply. I am looking for quality! I have Focal krx3 front stage. Need subs to fill in the sub stage. I am worried that 15s won't be punchy enough? Never tried an infitinte baffle setup before though
Alex O that’s why i said to have 2x15” then like in this one or the E63AMG we built. Those subs play the upperbass beautifully too and have enough headroom for booming.
I have a quick question Peter. If I choose to use a Fiio M11 as my source unit, is there any way I can retain the factory functions (navigation and cameras mostly)
Option A: You connect the Fiio to the HU, then yes, but then you could use a phone too, no need for a Fiio Option B: If Fiio is connected to the DSP directly, then you have no steering wheel functions and there is no simple solution for it or rather any. You have to use the controller of the DSP or the volume on the Fiio. You can still use the Factory system simultaneously for satnav, just keep some of the OEM speakers.
Hi Peter. Did you ever try to take high levels inputs from Harman Kardon system in BMW same year as this is? Is it possible to get good signal out of it without helix ssdmi25? As this is now out of stock for longer time. Is that signal in from HK very bad?
Always impressed by your theoretical and practical skills Peter. I am nowhere near, but I would like to improve the front system of my CL9 Accord Sedan, I know you made a build in one but I´m looking for something simpler. What would you do? 6,5" in doors and 3" on stock tweeter location sound okay? Unfortunately its a manual so dont think I can utilize the front frame holes with kick panels as there is no space on the drivers side.
Hey peter so you mentioned the ESB underseatsubs are the only ones which are really better than OEM, are they worth upgrading if I have the audison S8?
Hi mate, have an f90 myself and going for just a standard boot sub to add to the original system. Just trying to figure out how do i connect it all to run with the standard H/K system.
Hi, Cheapest option is to take signal from OEM bass drivers from underneath the front seats and wire those lines to an active sub. Not quite what we do as that way have no control over the sub. We’d rather add a DSP amplifier replacing the OEM amp and a monoblock, so everything could be tuned properly with a laptop and RTA.
Because we did nothing to it. We described in some of the videos that we kept the HK driver, amplified and tuned it and it delivered pretty good results. I would still recommend to change it to an OEM upgrade option which gives you lower impedance than the 8ohm HK one.
@@pssound9749 thanks!! I have a 2010 E60 that’s lacking output in the midbass area and I’ve been considering using the underseat “sub” location as a means of getting it better
I have been out of the car audio field for almost 20 years now and Peter's channel dropped into my feed. I have watched almost all of the videos here and want to say thank you to you Peter, I have found the motivation to build a quality system again. Your no bullshit attitude towards creating top quality builds reminds me that people can still appreciate what I enjoyed back in the 90's. Please keep loving what you do and I will see you next time on PSSound...
Man i love these “long form” videos, so much knowledge...
This build is the epitome of "extreme proper madness ". You never cease to amaze. You're an absolute mastermind!
Great video Peter!! This is another level of installation. It shows your love for what you do. You're simple the best . Thank you for the awesome video 🙏👏
Always great to see the work and thoughts behind it from a passionate pro like Peter 👌👍
Great and outstanding work peter and I totally appreciate the step by step narration from you and the ability to deliver on the customer request and more ✊
Hi Peter. The quantity and quality of work you do is awesome! Thanks a lot for sharing it with us!
Superb installation Peter, addicted to your channel. Having a jl audio dsp added to my system next week, I'm looking forward to hear the difference in sq.
Go Helix DSP if you can afford it! Well worth the $$$
Love the extruded aluminum frame! Such a great idea!
And once again....another epic build!!!....amazing job Pete!!
Love the long videos, thanks for this. Just like a ‘behind the build’
See's a new pssounds video, and immediately I put on best headphones I have, lol
I was wondering when someone was going to use 8020. Beautiful Peter.
Love that you encoded wire colors in Hungarian, so no one can replicate your connections.
That extruded metal is the best and looks absolutely amazing.
Incredible! The attention to detail is so good. I love oem+! 👍
Another sweet build by pssounds!!
Lovely install Peter AGAIN lol really clean 🔉🔊🔊👍
Peter i ran somee 12ga stinger HPM wrapped in techflex to my doors and i also took over an hour for 1 door lol. i feel your pain and now im not ashamed about how long it can take when it takes a pro the same amount of time.
Nice install I like the OEM look
This and.the Audi TT are my favorites!
Would like to see a Video like this every day👌🏽💎🍿
Jimmy Jankipersadsing yeah me too! And a 5digit salary per month from UA-cam! 😃
@@pssound9749 Indeed same 👍✌
Amazing trunk setup! I have really enjoyed this clip!
Awesome Job Peter, Gave me some idea's for my 2020 Camry Build cause I don't want to weight the car down to much as I want to do SCCA autocross too! Bravo "Listen Till It Hertz!"
Fwd autocross ? Rubbish
Thanks 4 sharing. Sometimes subwoofer selection is endless. I did a 4th order bandpass enclosure for someone, after install and everything, they said the response was too deep.
John Crochet it’s important to get familiar with their reference first. 🔊🔊
@@pssound9749 yes. Lesson learned.
very nice wow!
Very nice maestro
Great Videos Peter!
Great job as always. What kind of paint did you use with the sail panels?
As explained in the video, they were sent to a professional painter.
@@pssound9749 oh, ok, I missed that 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Your video's always give me ideas, and always informational. I've actually thought about doing an metal amp rack build and I have a small question in regards to doing so, it might be a bit of a dumb question but I would rather ask someone who has the experience. So my question is seeing as a lot of amplifier manuals say not to mount the amp directly to metal when mounting them to eliminate possible floor noise, did you use rubber washers in between the chassis to rack & mounting hardware to rack to isolate it from grounding out so to speak?
rps13joe we didn’t isolate in this case and had zero issue. However, it’s a valid question, which could be shared on forums, so more experienced people, especially some amp manufacturers could chime in too.
Great video again! How is the sound quality from Most and android auto compaired to something like Fiio to dsp. Thinking of buying a Most150 converter. Its expensive:'(
Yes, if you need MOST150 for some of the new cars, then it’s not cheap. That’s the price we pay for these modern cars!
BMWs sound great on MOST25 if you play lossless, FLAC or Tidal, so it’s absolutely fine for most people.
Insane, I love it. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a BMW 740i E38 with 2 JBL W12 GTI sealed. You make me think about it and I want to try IB. Are 2 units of JBL W12 GTI suitable for IB?
Best Regards from Malaga (SPAIN)
Jorge Torrejón i’d always use as much cone area as possible, but i guess it’s also about expectations and requirements. Some people are happy even with a single 12” in trunk IB, but some others want the dynamics of 2x15-18”.
JBL GTIs have always been used around the SQ circles in IB, but it’s definitely not an application for those who focus on output. They can certainly be louder in the main passband of 30-60Hz in a box, but IB is always more linear, less boomy and has way better extension under 30Hz all the way down to single digits when done right.
@@pssound9749 thanks a lot for the answer. I am a SQ fan, so I don't want a boomy system. I have Helix tube amps for my mids and tweeets. I just want more extension in the low frequencies, because even with 2 12" GTIs, it is really difficult to make the bass get into the cabin. It is curious how much isolated the trunk is in this BMW. The rear seats can not fold down, i have only the hole of the rear armrest, the hole for the skies
Jorge Torrejón there is a test in the Trunk IB playlist, see how the rear seat effects output. 🔊🔊
Thanks for the video as always. What's the lowest response you get from those subs in that setup?
tim16 18-19Hz is already audible and can move proper amount of air, just like most IB installs with the right subs.🔊🔊
Do you guys ever use Sinfoni in your installs? Curious as to how you feel about their products.
interceptor it’s not distributed here in UK, so I can’t comment on it.
Great job! Can you link to the white connectors from the video?
Дмитрий З RS Components sells it, but i have no idea of the model, it was difficult to find for us as well.
Bro, I feel you so hard with the speakercables in cars. did a F22 M235i. one run 2,5mm2 and one 4mm2 for big doors. Same OEM plug as in this F90. Same bulshit with electrics behind the panels with removing all of them for the job. 6hours of pulling cables through that shit. With drilling that OEM Plug. I fkn hate it. but got it done. Love your work BTW
Worst part of any project these days. 😞
I really enjoyed this install, even though I haven’t gotten serious about car audio in about 15 or more years, the video has given me a lot of ideas that I’d like to see in my own car one day. I am also reminded on how complicated but fascinating car audio is compared to home theater and audio. I have 5 subwoofers and 11 different speakers in my theater system and it was no where as complicated as this install. Would’ve loved to hear the end result, awesome work! One question though, I noticed that you decided to keep the under seat subs, is this because you are able to EQ the deficiencies out? I am actually thinking of replacing mine for the Audioson s in hopes of more mid bass kick.
Once you have proper amplifier running the HK midbass, you can actually get good resuls.
@@pssound9749 thanks, I will give this a try first
Fantastic!!!which subwoofer is this?
ojapa30 JBL GTI15 mk2.
@@pssound9749 I would love to see you do a infinite baffle blow thru for a crew cab pickup truck I've tried this and I got some incredible Bass but not in your professional way I want to see you pull this off I have 4 Fi ib3 18 v2 subs ran at 0.5 ohm All I can say is oh my GOD on a lanzar optidrive 3201 which can be wired to 1/2 ohm no problems ...please comment..
GRADY CRISLER that will never happen in UK, it’s not a truck loving nation. 😃
@@pssound9749 🤒😪👌🤦♂️
GRADY CRISLER tell me about it! It’s not the best place to push a caraudio business.
Just wow
Good evening Peter, I see a couple of boxes off ESB Audio. It’s making me curious .......
Umıt Bozkır new BMW 5series plug&play option. I’ll share pics of them on Fb soon. 👌
@@pssound9749 ok, I’ve seen them before on their website. The one with the red baskets. Looked nice but couldn’t find any T/S parameters on the site of ESB. Looks robust, better quality in comparison to other BMW under seat woofers of other brands.
Umıt Bozkır yes, i’m chasing them for T/S specs too, but hopefully i can also test them in few weeks time, that may tell more about them. 👌
@@pssound9749 I’m looking forward to it 👍
I’m also very curious about their speakers. Can’t find much info about them.
Hey @Pssound would you rather take two 12" Acoustic Elegance IBAU or two 12" FI Audio IB subs?
Help me decide please
Alex O for what? Daily booming = Fi.
Accuracy and quality = AE. If you have space, go for 2x15”.
@@pssound9749 thanks for your reply. I am looking for quality! I have Focal krx3 front stage. Need subs to fill in the sub stage. I am worried that 15s won't be punchy enough? Never tried an infitinte baffle setup before though
But I also want a little bit of boom hence why I am looking at two 12s. I am worried that if I go 2x AE, I'll be giving up all of my boom
Coming from a 12w7 in sealed box
Alex O that’s why i said to have 2x15” then like in this one or the E63AMG we built. Those subs play the upperbass beautifully too and have enough headroom for booming.
I have a quick question Peter. If I choose to use a Fiio M11 as my source unit, is there any way I can retain the factory functions (navigation and cameras mostly)
Option A:
You connect the Fiio to the HU, then yes, but then you could use a phone too, no need for a Fiio
Option B:
If Fiio is connected to the DSP directly, then you have no steering wheel functions and there is no simple solution for it or rather any. You have to use the controller of the DSP or the volume on the Fiio.
You can still use the Factory system simultaneously for satnav, just keep some of the OEM speakers.
@@pssound9749 Thanks for taking the time to answer. Sounds like a solution to my potential problem. I appreciate you
Ricardo Mayorga check out the E63AMG playlist where we had 2 simultaneous system running.
@@pssound9749 Will do. Thanks again
Hi Peter. Did you ever try to take high levels inputs from Harman Kardon system in BMW same year as this is? Is it possible to get good signal out of it without helix ssdmi25? As this is now out of stock for longer time. Is that signal in from HK very bad?
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Always impressed by your theoretical and practical skills Peter. I am nowhere near, but I would like to improve the front system of my CL9 Accord Sedan, I know you made a build in one but I´m looking for something simpler. What would you do? 6,5" in doors and 3" on stock tweeter location sound okay? Unfortunately its a manual so dont think I can utilize the front frame holes with kick panels as there is no space on the drivers side.
bingoberra18 have you seen the 10day SQ install playlist?
@@pssound9749 No, I guess I should :)
Hey peter so you mentioned the ESB underseatsubs are the only ones which are really better than OEM, are they worth upgrading if I have the audison S8?
Where do you get the alloy frame parts from as that is an awesome idea?
It’s aluminium extrusion. They use them for CNCs a lot.
Peter always curious how you determine woofers facing forward or rear facing?
Just how they fit leaving the most amount of practical space in the boot.
So just to be clear, you do prefer 2 15s when possible? Thank you
Or 18”s! 😂
Could I use "IB" with a membrane in a Civic Hatchback (UK build) 2010 MK8?
(With a w15gti woofer)
Why not if you’re ready to cut the floor? 💪🤘🔊🔊
So do you upgrade the alternator or add an extra battery?
No, it’s not an SPL system.
Hi mate, have an f90 myself and going for just a standard boot sub to add to the original system. Just trying to figure out how do i connect it all to run with the standard H/K system.
Hi,
Cheapest option is to take signal from OEM bass drivers from underneath the front seats and wire those lines to an active sub. Not quite what we do as that way have no control over the sub.
We’d rather add a DSP amplifier replacing the OEM amp and a monoblock, so everything could be tuned properly with a laptop and RTA.
What did you do or midbass under the seats? (you mentioned Midbass under the seats in the video but you didn't show them or the install)
Because we did nothing to it. We described in some of the videos that we kept the HK driver, amplified and tuned it and it delivered pretty good results.
I would still recommend to change it to an OEM upgrade option which gives you lower impedance than the 8ohm HK one.
@@pssound9749 thanks!! I have a 2010 E60 that’s lacking output in the midbass area and I’ve been considering using the underseat “sub” location as a means of getting it better
Gladen makes custom speakers for bmw
Almost every brand does
What paint did you use on the sail pods ?
As described in the video, the sail panels were sent off to a professional painter...
@@pssound9749 I guess I was so impressed with how good the paint looked that I didn’t hear you say that!!!
Tray the Rockford fosgate p2 15inch sub🔈🔈🔈🔈🎶🎶🎶🎶❤
Fantastic 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️