Landlord ESA Animal Rules: HUD Charges Landlord for Refusing Emotional Support Cat!
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Being a landlord is not easy! A landlord was charged by HUD for refusing a cat! The crazy thing is the tenant had the cat and no harm was really done but HUD went after them anyway. I go over the laws and try to make sense of how landlords can handle ESA and service animals! As a landlord, I have had to deal with many situations like this and it can be very tricky knowing what to do or not what to do.
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I made this video before i had the encounter with the emotional support pitbull at my rental. He definitely was nit a service dog but still must be allowed if the guiidelines in the video are met. Here is that video ua-cam.com/video/hGlrVIlE9ko/v-deo.htmlsi=b9MmL_EwuxQ_Cy-9
If he causes an issue or hurts someone with his bad behavior you can still exclude the dog. It was in the document you were reading about determining if a service animal is needed. I think the call it the animals bad behavior. I did see the other video.
@@staceyorourke880he didn't hurt anyone but jumped on me
By jumping on you, do you mean in a playful manner ? If so,no recourse. You'd need to prove harmful to yourself or another tenant to justify removal.(imo..not a lawyer)@@investfourmore
@@investfourmoreI realize the dog didn’t hurt you but if it hurts someone else or is disruptive, you might be able to ask it to leave. Jumping on someone can injure them. It may depend on the person too. People who are scratched sometimes think they have been bitten. Just helping you understand some of your rights.
@@carle494I was fine but if I was a large person I may not be. If he had jumped on an older lady at the complex he could have easily knocked her over..it's a 60 pound putfull with pretty large claws
I have an esa animal I have ptsd anxiety clinical depression and adhd. My dog pushes me sometimes especially when I have terrible depression and my dog forces me to face my anxiety to be forced to go outside. It’s easy for people to judge but if you don’t understand suffering from mental illness it’s difficult for those to not relate.
So many people have abused this that it's crazy. Even in temporary shelters for the homeless and there is absolutely NO consideration for other tenants allergies, even if it puts them in the hospital. There is also an extreme amount of animal abuse, neglect and abandonment that has come along with this situation.
Yup..plus the noise of barking dogs etc
@@investfourmore if they are barking you have a recourse. They cannot be a nuisance. They do not have to be trained like a service dog but they also can’t be a nuisance. If they destroy the property you can charge the owner. If they break the animal rules, like don’t pick up the waste, they can be given a notice. They have to follow the rules and not be a nuisance.
Had a tenant. I allowed them a dog. They broke the lease by the dog always barking for most of the 24 hours of the day. They didn't try to quiet the dog or anything it was so sad they would leave it in the cage most of the day and they were home the whole time so I made them get rid of it. I said they couldn't have another dog because they didn't take care of the one that they had. Why do people that are the worst with pets Always want a pet. So they tried to do the emotional support animal thing and she said that I couldn't stop her from getting another dog. Luckily I was already in the process of evicting them and I never had to actually deal with it.
@@ryansobel9447 you would have been able to get rid of a dog that barked. I would have documented it and then given then notice. Just like you could get rid of a pet dog. Even though an ESA is considered medical equipment it still can’t disturb the peace. In order to avoid this in the future, I always asked questions, like where does the fog stay when you are gone, how many times a day do you walk it, is it spayed or nurtured, any question which would determine if the dog was cared for. I would also find out who the veterinarian is. Most will answer questions about vaccinations being up to date and if they see the dog regularly. It’s also important to know if the dog has a rabies vaccination. I had very little issues with animals disturbing others. The one time I did, they brought the dog in without permission and were causing other issues. I had another tenant whose dogs were fine, she was the nightmare. It goes both ways.
I have new neighbors and am having the barking issue right now myself. It is driving me out of my mind. And people wonder why neighbors start acting crazy and violent. Constant barking and constant babies crying will do that to people.
Contact a a ADA lawyer who knows the laws about disabilities to give you adobe on the tenants dog. Emotional support animals normally landlords will ask for a doctors note before bringing in the animal into the home. A service dog is trained to do functions for the person who has a disability.
If you read the ADA guidelines, you do not have to and possibly shouldn’t always ask for a doctors note. Prof of a disability related need may be needed only if you have no prior knowledge of the disability and the disability is not obvious.
@@staceyorourke880 you should at a minimum be asking what tasks the dog is trained in. Emotional support animals aren't granted the same rights, and requesting documentation should be necessary in those cases.
Doctor says I need a skunk for my anxiety. Landlords can't deny?
Here's how I deal with this scam:
-These phonies can fill out an application just like everybody else.
-I'll tell them to include the requisite documentation for their animal. I'll leave it to them to know what that is.
-I'll tell them that I'll decide on the most qualified candidate when I'm ready.
-I'll pick someone else. Problem solved.
-My lease is month-to-month. If they start this nonsense after they're in, I'll find a reason to terminate the lease pretty quick.
Just don't say that publiclly....
All our flyers says NO ANIMALS and lease says no animals and that is all we need to say. The tenants get an animal during there tenancy will be evicted out of the property. They are in breach of the contract which is means you have violated your agreement and you need to move.
If a tenant requests an accommodation for a service dog or an ESA and you denied it you could be sued and the person who sues you (likely a government agency on behalf of the person) would win. I was able to win money for this exact reason.
If you deny an ESA or Service Animal or evict because they have a service animal you will get sued, and rightly so.
F the government
In Canada an ESA has to have a certificate approving them as one, thus the person has to show the disability or need for emotional support to the givernment. This stops those getting any animal and appearing on a plane with a huge snake claiming its emptional support. A trained seeing eye or hearing dog helps with the disability, not just feel good. So a snake usnt a trained support animal.
Because we are in the US, this does not apply. Also only actual service animals may need a certificate. I don’t know the intricacies of the law after that because it varies by providence.
@@staceyorourke880 really? Shocking.
Every animal is an ESA. That is why people have pets, they make us feel good. Slightly off topic, but I was bit by a ESA at my local grocery store. It jumped out of the cart and bit me. It was a little barky, bity type of dog. The manager told me he could not do anything to keep it out of the store and it had gone after, but not bitten, people before.
If they are aggressive I believe they can stop them from entering.
@@investfourmore You are correct.
Did you sue the owner of the dog?
@@investfourmore aggressive and disruptive dogs may be excluded. Also you should have called the police and animal control. Dogs that bite are not allowed to work in public.
@@staceyorourke880 Problem is, how do you know it's a "dog that bites" before it bites?
i can understand why landlord refuse animals and or children in there apts or dwellings .....pets and children are destructive. It make more work for a landlord to repair the property and in some cases animals can make the place smell due to the fact the tenant doesn't keep up with the waste...meaning they don't take the animal out to do their business and let them do it on the floors . This effects everyone, smells and fleas can spread to other units . Children destroy the property by writing on walls and putting holes in walls and breaking windows or doors. I don't envy landlords having to put up with the tenants because they feel like they are entitled to do what they want then complain to anyone that will listen .B efore you jump down my throat ive rented in apts that i've had to put up with the things i've mentioned and its not fun to deal with these people and found it unfair that the landlords hands are tied because of this and the rest of us suffer.The landlord should have a say in who they want in their apts .
We can't not rent to people because of children either
You have to deal with all sorts of things when you rent. It is not just animals and pets. Drunk, loud, or smoking adults come to mind.
all true and thank you for being polite about it
@@staceyorourke880
i agree with you here. Wish our government supported landlords more
@@investfourmore "We can't not rent to people because of children either"
Guess 55 plus apartments are just a figment of my imagination...
CLEARLY, the landlord allowed a continued tenancy after the lease expired which they were under no legal obligation to do so. Also, they never threatened to end the lease. So, how did they not grant "reasonable accommodations" to her to have said animal? Is it because they didn't provide a 6-month supply of kitty litter and Meow Mix, and a scratching post? Also, what damages did the landlord incur upon the tenant requiring financial compensation?
I had to allow a dog once. I talked to the attorney for the lady and she said saying no is like saying no to a blind person. So I had them for a year. One horrible year. Now I advertise on FB, and I scour the person's fb page for any sign of an animal. If I see a dog or cat, I do not even answer the person asking about the apartment.
Or do not do section 8 or hud. And problem solved. And always do 30 lease.
That's a smart way to go about it!
I hope nobody that you haven’t answered sees this. They would definitely have a claim against you. You are the type of person who makes landlords look bad.
@@staceyorourke880Anything else??🎤🗑️
@@staceyorourke880 Guess again. There is NO law that forces one to respond. It specifically states DENYING an applicant. Gotta respond before you can deny...
Ha ha I nearly got in trouble with Airbnb because I would not allow a miniature horse to stay in a tiny house,, with the bedroom up a ladder! So be careful folks about those their horses! Again I nearly got in trouble again because of a service cat! I have severe allergies to cats! The perspective visitor assured me I was going to get sued! I called Airbnb and they said I can do that ! Because I’m severely allergic to cats! They can kill me.. apparently in the state of California anyway, that’s a legitimate reason not to allow a particular service animal. Hint hint nudge nudge.!
They can have a disability if they don’t receive SSI or housing benefits, etc.
True, Not everyone needs assistance from the government.
Not necessarily one defined by the ADA
@@spikefivefivefive what?
What they said was rude but not lawsuit worthy. But government gonna get your money one way or the other.
yes
You tell me I can't have an emotional support horse in my studio apartment!? I'm gonna sue you! - America
Your ridiculous.
When trump comes in, i'm confident this will go
He won’t 😂😂😂…
I spent a great and I mean great amount to time studying this issue. It is made to be such a pain in the ass that you might end up getting your ass sued off and they could always win and you will be out a ton of money defending it.
The guide lines about service animals in public, eating establishments and so one are at least less of a headache to understand and follow. Owners of establishments have rights you just have to be very careful when dealing with it. The less you talk the better lol.
The government not being clear? What????
I recently flew back 'n forth to and from England to meet up with some of my military friends who now live across Europe. On the flight back to the USA, thankfully across the aisle, was a woman simpering and very angry whole trip, the airline made her stage her 'Emotional Support ... Rabbit' 🙄, in a cage, in the hold of the aircraft. I had no problems going through customs and making my connecting flight back home, but I could hear her shrieking about her 🐇Rabbit the whole time I was being processed.
😮😮😮
Rules are different in other countries.
I recently contacted my landlord via txt bc it was recommended by a psychologist that my mother gets a ESA. I asked the landlord regarding their policy and specified that it was recommended, since the lease does not deny pet and that we could get proper documentation. She denied bc she didn't want the next tenant to complain. I live in Fl and looked up the law and that's not an excuse, I txt her and quoted her the law and she didn't reply. The only exception that I have looked up and I'm confused about is the (Owner occupied building with no more than four unit) I live in an apartment building that has 3 apartment units, 3 different tenants, my landlord does not live in either of the 3. But I KNow she has more apartment out there she rents out, and I'm not aware if she lives in them. I told my mom to get her letter from her psychologist but we wont bring in the dog bc I don't know if that exception applies to me since I live in 3 unit and the exception qupted no more than 4 units. I have no desire to sue, I simply want a hassle free accommodation.
Why is this even an issue? If the lease provides no prohibition of animals, seems you could just bring one in. Probably doesn't prohibit playing a guitar either. So, would you ask permission before doing so?
HUD only has Juristiction if the Landlord participates in the HUD program. And you may need to read up on the ADA (Americans with Disiablities Act). A violation of this Act can end you in Federal Court. There is a difference ESA (Emotional Support Animal) note "Support" will only deal with housing while Service Aminal are ADA and required to allow access to any public location as well as housing. You Are not allowed to ask for ANY documentation for Service Animals and only landlords can ask for a Medical authorization for Support animals
That is not true. "Yes, the US Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) enforces the federal Fair Housing Act in Colorado. HUD handles complaints about housing discrimination, bad landlords, and other issues" Fair housing does not just apply to HUD programs
The important part to remember that the person must have a disability. If you are unable to see the disability, like a person who is blind or uses a wheel chair, you have a right to ask for documentation. They do not have to provide a diagnosis.
The word "reasonable" is subjective. When it comes to laws the wording needs to be clear with no opportunity for misunderstanding. What would happen if you had a tenant who was so petrified of dogs they got panic attacks and a new or prospective tenant had a service dog? Which tenant gets priority? Both have legitimate health concerns but obviously can't co-exist. I love dogs but was mauled by 2 chows when I was a child. Never got over it and the sight of this breed makes me shake in fear. Others may think it's a joke but to me the fear is justified (reasonable).
I've e hear a lot of bad stories about chows
The person with the panic attack would need to request an accommodation. The landlord may have to try to work something out. It again has to be reasonable. Would it be reasonable to require either party to move? The law is a bit open ended because disabilities don’t fit into a box. I have been bitten by several dogs including a chow. I am also a dog trainer and not scared of dogs. Something that causes me a disabling reaction might not affect you. So it would be impossible to address every situation.
Everyone keeps talking about tenants as if they're the ONLY ones that need emotional support etc. What about the LANDLORD'S emotional support?
Emotional support animals are absolutely allowed and covered by the law.
If they help with a disability
@@investfourmore yes. That is the definition of an emotional support animal.
People with self diagnosed mental illness try to drag snakes, rabbits, mini horses on planes as emotional support animals. There is no documented disability nor does the animal fill a service role. But "comfort". That's when some planes will refuse the animal in the passenger area.
@@staceyorourke880that's not what all these ads on Facebook tell me. I can pay them a few hundred and get a letter that says he's a service dog and he can go everywhere with me.
Which is where it gets hard for landlords. Do I trust my gut? Or do I risk a lawsuit?
@@investfourmore - *legitimate disability
They may have also kept her deposit.
It did not say that in the complaint
@@investfourmore it may be in the evidence or interviews they conducted to reach this decision.
Listen... I love animals.. but i don't want any on my rentals!!! Period only reply if u can assist thx
My mom has two dogs and she has been trying to play games with this law just because she wants to dogs and they are emotionally attached to her but she does not have any psychological requirement to have these dogs. However, unfortunately a lot of doctors or vets are I don’t know who it is that makes these assessments have given her notes that I’m pretty sure are BS so that she can have her dogs. A lot of people choose communities because they don’t want dogs or they go to retirement communities because small children running around all day make them anxious and that’s the privilege we give to people that are retired I guess. In any case, my mom just likes her dogs and she really doesn’t train them properly so it’s not really fair for her to do this emotional service thing with her animals. She has made choices, but she wants other people to accommodate them. I don’t feel very good about the whole ESA thing. Her dogs bite. They are not well trained. She is exactly the reason why people that don’t want to live around dogs don’t want to live around dogs. Let’s just take a moment and be grateful that they’re a little yuppie small dogs instead of big scary ones. That being said, my granddaughter is terrified of dogs because my mom‘s dogs have bit her.
If an ESA were a legitimate service animal it would be called a SERVICE ANIMAL, not an ESA.
Since they are trying to work the system then the landlord should just ask for a huge pet deposit.
Can't because such animals are not legally classified as "pets".
You are providing incorrect information and should refer others to local laws concerning Service or Support animals as they are two distinct catagories
which part is incorrect? I read directly from the HUD website
I have worked in the hospitality industry for over 35 years. This issue is one of the most annoying we deal with. We accept pets at our property with a $100 deposit. We inspect the room at checkout, and as long as there is no damage, or the animal has not caused a disturbance to other guests the deposit is refunded. That is for guests paying cash or debit card. People have learned that all they have to say is that their dog is a service animal, and they do not have to cough up the deposit. In fact we are powerless to come back on them in any way if the animal damages the room, or causes a disturbance. We cannot charge a deposit for those animals, and thus no way to recoup if there are damages, or we have to give money back to other gusts due to noise complaints! It's a scam! I estimate that at least 90% of people claiming they have a service animal are full of BS. Because of the specter of being sued you don't dare challenge them. Super annoying! However it is our understanding that ESAs are not covered under the ADA, and thus we do not allow them without a deposit.
If their animal causes damage or a disturbance the ADA states you are able to charge them. Your boss should probably contact an attorney.
@staceyorourke880 Unfortunately the vast majority of fake service animal claims are from people paying cash. With no deposit there is no room inspection upon check out. They simply leave without telling the front desk. The only recourse we have normally is to put them on our, "do not rent" list so if they return we will not rent to them. If a credit card is used we will add charges for damages etc.
@@markkinne4715 do you not have to have ID?
@staceyorourke880 Yes, we do require an ID. However, once they are gone, our options are very limited. We could invoice them for the damages, but your chances of getting anything that way is pretty much zero. That is why we make sure we do not rent to them again by putting them on the do not rent list. If there is one thing I have learned in 35 years, it is that people will do anything they can to avoid having to pay for services, including lying about their fake service animals. Oh yes, they will steal anything noy nailed down, and some things that are.
What about deposit my landlord charges me deposit even with all form from doctors was told that service dog no charge because train and emotional dog you do pay deposit but HUD and section 8 said I wasn't supposed to pay deposit.
If you have a service dog you are not supposed to pay an extra deposit or pet.fee but you still have to pay the regular deposit
Well she made me pay pet deposit even tho HUD and section 8 said emotional dog is not a pet but don't make me pay monthly fee. And my section 8 worker who said she was going help me out got let go because not only did landlord do that she was telling section 8 my rent was 875 put told me rent was 950 and made me x and section 8 said that against law so they was try get me x back from that too but like said the workers from section 8 who said she getting money back was let the next day . So guess she got in trouble and I didn't get help.
No you were not supposed to pay a deposit. You should be able to file a claim. Where you do may depend on your state. In Colorado you are able to file a claim with the office of Colorado civil liberties.
@@staceyorourke880 wow so I really got take for because ya I paid deposit and also charges a regular deposit every 3 years base on my credit plus paid over what section 8 said and like said my section 8 worker who said she was getting it all back left next day after day she was helping me .
I wonder how hotels handle this? I suppose if it’s a legit service dog you can stay at any hotel regardless of their “pet” policy. Also you shouldn’t be charged an additional fee if it’s a service animal correct?
I traveled with my cane corso recently and the least I paid was $50 a night for him to sleep on the floor in hotel with us. Most I was told was $150 a night!
Good question
Depends on the hotel chain. Many hotels have dedicated pet free rooms, where even service animals aren't allowed, and cleaning fees from bringing an undeclared pet into the room are many times the pet deposit.
Many also have you sign the same waiver for damages for pets and service dogs.
Recently did several cross country trips, one with pets and a service dog.
Always had to sign a waiver for the service dog, amounting to "if dog does not behave, you can charge me for damages or kick me out".
@@gizmoenterprises3467 it is actually against the law to force a service dog into a pet room. They are allowed to stay in pet free rooms. Especially if that is the only room left.
@@staceyorourke880 if the product being sold is an allergy free room, having a service animal stay in there 100% alters the product.
While service animals don't have to stay in pet friendly rooms, and they can stay in normal rooms, staying in allergy free rooms kinda defeats the purpose of allergy free
@@gizmoenterprises3467and the ADA addresses allergies specifically. If the service animal is there first or has a reservation, they have to be allowed to stay. One disability does not override another. Just like you have to treat all people who walk in off the street the same, you have to offer a room to a disabled person with a dog if you would offer that room to anyone else who requests a room. Service dogs are considered a medical device like a wheel chair or a cane. You would never deny someone a room because they used a non-animal device so you have to allow an assistive animal in any available room.
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Waz happening
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Huh?
One thing you haven’t said is that the process for making the determination should be interactive. If you don’t have an exchange and just deny the request, you will be in trouble. I think that is what they are talking about in the part where it gets muddy. Non response will cost you money in the form of a complaint.
This organization provides training and advice for entities, like landlords, who have questions about service dogs and emotional support dogs. Therapy dogs don’t really qualify for special treatment except to perform therapy tasks in a specific institution with their permission but it also mentions them.
The not doesn’t have to be from a doctor.
They don’t have to tell you ahead of time. But they do have to ask prior to brining the dog on the property.
It's all covered in the lease.
You can't bring in any animal if it's not mentioned in the lease.
Unless that person is intentionally trying to deceive the landlord.
@@spikefivefivefive if it is a service dog or an ESA they absolutely are able to bring the animal. ADA laws super wed landlord rights and leases.
This no pets rule is disgusting! It’s discrimination to say the least ! The money these landlords make is sickening n should be capped ! For the money they charge I should have a horse n chickens ! Tenants need to get together a petition rent capping n all pets should be allowed to any hard working American at the end of the day !! First law I would change is price gauging on rent prices n no pets !
First of all, a property owner should have the right to make the rules regarding their own property. Don't like said rules, don't do commerce with them. Even so, a rule that applies to everyone (no pets) is anything BUT discrimination. Perhaps you should revisit the concept.
Personally, I think it looks good on landlords, since pets are considered a member of the family.
The thing is, with HIPAA Laws, you can't legally ask what somebody's disability is.
Here in Ontario Canada for example, landlords can't legally discriminate against pets, even if they have a no pet policy or you sign a lease stating no pets you can still bring them in.
You say cats can do lots of damage, I completely disagree with you, we have four cats we have carpet and curtains, all four have claws they never touch any of them.
We have high top and enclosed litter boxes, have common sense so we don't put them on or near porous surfaces.
My sister for example, their last apartment and current house, both had no pet policies, but they had pets since the landlord can't discriminate against them.
I've seen so many houses destroyed by cats. Some act owners are great and others not so much.
I do somewhat see your point, but pets are a member of your family
If I'm not mistaken you are a dog owner yourself, what's if you were forced into temporary accommodations and they didn't allow pets and you had no other place for your Dog's to go, what would you do??
That's definitely something a lot of pet owners are forced to face.
If it's a Service or Emotional support animal, are you allowed to put in a Pet Deposit Fee or Damage-Cleanup Fee??
@@redneckbryon we are not allowed to charge a pet deposit or pet fee for service animals. If I was forced Into temp housing I would look for a place that allows pets
All "members" of the family will be spelled out in the lease.
This is a problem with the economy and landlords could fix the purported "ESA licensing abuse" by getting rid of the "no pets" policies--Most people who rent don't want to be renting, and having an animal or two around helps them feel more comfortable and lessens their anxiety. ESAs aren't really service animals, and in most states, landlords can refuse them if they can't provide proper licensing, and most can't because psychologists are afraid to prescribe them due to all of the potential for abuse. A lot of people need their pets, though, whether they have known disabilities or not, and treating a pet as a privilege is actually pretty cruel. You should just penalize irresponsible pet owners by charging for damages once they move out. I guess animals can damage an apartment, but so can really depressed people.
Also, those who use possible allergies as a reason to refuse animals on the property should really re-evaluate their policies, imo, because service dogs are often not poodles, or otherwise hypoallergenic, and they have to be allowed, regardless. If you can't make reasonable accommodations for them without "jeopardizing your investment," you probably need to re-think your business practices. Besides, most pet allergies can be controlled with medication.
First, I don't think people whoudl have to medicate themsleves to accomodate someone elses animal. Having animals is great but they come with responsibilities and I don't think you should be able to force landlords who own the property to accept animals if they don't want to.
Yes, animals can do tens of thousands of dollars and I have seen it happen muiltiple times and getting the tenant to just pay for it is often impossible becuase they do not have the money
@@investfourmore, under current laws, the only thing you can refuse is an unlicensed emotional support animal. All other assistance animals have to be allowed by law because they are service animals. The risk of someone coming into contact with animal hair or dander from another apartment and having to be hospitalized for it is probably about zero, as most pet allergens are found in the environment. No pets policies are just ways of making depressed people more depressed, and thankfully, they don't apply to service animals at all and only apply to ESAs under certain circumstances.
As for tenants who don't pay their rent or destroy the property, you could have them out within the week; the United States has very lax tenants' rights laws, and most of them favor the landlord in a very lopsided way. For example, squatters' rights only exist if a tenant has lived there for ten years or longer, and even that's being challenged.
The U.S. has absolutely no problem putting people out on the street, and many cities even have laws against parking temporary shelters, like rvs and such, which can be built cheaply, so that the homeless aren't legitimately out on the street, meaning unless your charity has A LOT of money, you aren't going to successfully house anyone. Oh, and just to add insult to injury, shelters are dangerous, overcrowded, and sometimes even non-existent, all while the homeless have to put up with hostile architecture, vulnerability to the elements, and violence, along with the stigma of being homeless.
@@KB-zq9ny SOrry but I can tell you have zero experience with tenants or evicitons. 10 days. that would be amazing! I just had to go through mediation in colorado before I can even start on eviction. It takes a year in some places to complete an eviction. All these laws you want to force on landlords is what causes homelessness. It makes landlords want to sell which limits supply and raise
s rents.
The thing is, I don't want laws "forced" on landlords; I just want them to practice ethical lending if they do rent extra properties out. As far as finding bad tenants, I'm not sure how that happens; most places even ask for references, like it's a job interview.
@@KB-zq9ny The past (good credit) is no guarantee of the future. So yeah, any tenant can turn bad at any time. Also, regarding ESAs, what about a landlord that suffers sever emotional stress when a tenant brings an animal onto their property? Should they just be SOL?
The only the problem really is the non-response. And the stupid comment.
Reasonable Request: if I need a fence for my dog, because I can't stand and wait for him, you have 30 days to tell to answer and either pay for or have me pay for a fence. Either way I get my fence. In Oregon we have to supply a "prescription". With our lease. If you ask me anything about my disability, or my dog I will sue you. It is emotionally draining to have neighbors, shopkeepers ask me about my dog. He is there for me. You would be surprised at how many people confront me and I am obviously disabled. Anything that is not obvious, you can ask for a letter from a doctor. If they get it, you must accommodate. If they don't get it turn it over to your lawyer. Don't ever think you have any power over service animal owner.
Why don't you rent a place that already has a fence?
Rent from the government, problem solved. Or buy a house/condo and then you can do whatever you want.
A fence would not be considered reasonable. Even people who have to have assistive equipment like grab bars or ramps must do it at their own expense and remove it when they leave.
Explain how cats cause more damage!! I had a cat for 12 years. Not once did my cat cause any damage litter box was cleaned twice daily nor did it claw up anything. I believe you personally have a problem with cats. Yes there are cat owners who don't clean there litter box daily and that will cause a cat to go elsewhere to the bathroom. Its not the cat its the owner's.
I've personally seen many more houses destroyed by cats than any other animal. Sure if the cat is behaved and trained it might not damage anything but not every cat is that way. .
2 cats. Less than 6 months.... Had to replace flooring and repaint everything, and the smell was still there.
@Gobigorgohome706
@Gobigorgohome706 -- I've been a landlord, and I can tell you from experience that cats can and do destroy property. I had a no-pet policy on my house/home. The tenant signed the lease saying they had no animals. I drove by my house and there was a beautiful big cat sitting in the window of my house. I told them to get rid of the cat or pay a $7k deposit because that is what it cost to replace carpets. They got rid of the cat. They also eventually broke the lease and we were thrilled to see them go. Oh yes, they cost us money. They also demanded we babysit their children when we had any maintenance done on the house. I didn't know any laws about service animals for which I am so glad. You must have never owned any property. Many people who who rent think their landlords have endless supplies of money. Not true!!! The point of being a landlord is two-fold in my opinion. One. A landlord supplies housing to those who otherwise wouldn't have a place to live. Two. The landlord is supplying this service to make a profit. You seem to think like a socialist communist. Landlords should supply free housing and free services even if they go broke. People like you only want to take advantage of others. You deserve a communist government. Well, so far, we still have a bit of freedom left, so you don't get free services. I did have good tenants too. They were all straight-up capitalists and took wonderful care of my property.
"I had a cat" YOUR cat, not every cat is like yours. Do you have any common sense?
@@gizmoenterprises3467 Clorox makes a Urine Remover liquid, I got mine at Lowe's I paid approx. $17 for a gallon bottle. It killed urine smells completely, but I was using it on fresh accidents, don't know if it will work as well for set in stains and smells.
I know an elderly lady who had a cat. She obtained a letter from her physician to support her case. She was isolated & suffered from anxiety as well as being a cancer patient. No one can observe this from the outside but it is a fact her dr knew about her condition. The cat provided her with companionship & comfort. This is a legitimate need filled by her emotional assistance animal.
You should not be so quick & ready to judge & deprive someone of their emotional support & stability. Especially since there is little damage a cat can do in those little apartments, that have no carpet & no drapes. Even then the cleaning deposit would cover it.
When did I judge? But a cat can do massive damage when it pees on the floors. We'd have to redo all of the floors and maybe subfloor too
He wasn’t judging. A person with cancer would possibly have outward signs that might help a landlord see that they need a support animal too.