You mean to say this ISN'T how I'm supposed to play the game? I always throw my starter away and grind a geodude to a level 100 graveler with his only attacking moves being self destruct and explosion before fighting that rocket grunt. That explains why I thought the game went downhill from there.
Well quite honestly there is another way to escape. With better odds. First encounter wild lvl 5 or higher pidgey and waste mudsport till it hits you 6 times with sand attack then attempt missing self destruct 5 times. (Due to odds still being against you you want to set up this checkpoint when you're there. If you fail no biggie just rince and repeat from the start) After you've done that flee the battle and save. Then repeat the whole thing with mudsport and explosion. (On fail restart to the save) Once you've wasted all selfdestruct and explosion PPs find wild kakunas and safcons to waste your remaining PPs on. Then beat the grunt with struggle and move on and struggle out the Nerd. And by then youre able to move tutor your graveler mega punch to just continue the game till it's finish
@@kevinniemann8218 He addressed that in the video. Even if it misses you still faint. You definitely need to watch the video before trying to be a smart ass.
Ursine Maximus Imagine being so stuck up you get mad someone used a different word. It happens a lot, most meme formats themselves use the wrong words.
This one is actually pretty easy to escape because of a feature in FRLG that you've overlooked. On the Mt. Moon floor in-between the first floor and the floor with the Rocket Grunt, Tiny and Big Mushrooms are hidden items in the rocks. These mushrooms have a chance to regenerate after taking a certain number of steps. You can sell these to obtain money with which you can buy Poke Balls, catch Pokemon, and escape. Since they are infinitely renewable, there is no way you can trap yourself once you have access to Mt. Moon and before jumping the ledge to Cerulean.
I'm just imagining somewhere some five year old bringing the game to their older brother and saying "I'm stuck, help me get past" and they've somehow managed to get themselves into this scenario
@@Charles_Anthony what are you talking about? start a new game, get all the way back without letting your brother know and bullshit your way through his many questions. "how did you get pokeballs?" "oh you know, i used a celfairy to get money........"
As fascinating as these videos are to me I cant help but hear "I cant decide whether this can be considered a flaw on the game's part" and not think "QA cannot account for flaws in the base human nature of the player"
"At least with this one, it happens so early that starting over is barely a problem at all" - Pikasprey, who has spent probably literally cumulative DAYS engineering this situation.
@@Dryicelegendsofhero the venasaur was at a convincing level for the graveler to hit lv100. Even if he used rare candies, he sure put a lot of thought into the situation. More likely had an emulator to speed up the battles
@@fatuusdottore Any rare candies they found on the ground yeah. I always see people who say things like "No way he grinded that much. Probably hacked in the rare candies himself."
@@shellshockedbros4458 I mean there'd be no reason to do the grind. He could do it, he seems like the type crazy enough to, but honestly, why would he? He can get the same footage so much easier, and without putting in days of effort.
No one gonna mention he just grinded a Graveler to lvl 100 before end of Mt. Moon, you know how long that shit would take, dedication to you my friend!
you probably could've just done it at level 62, when graveler learns its last level-up move, but you madlad, you actually brought it all the way and i applaud you
Also level 62 makes the escape harder since graveler has to survive so many turns it is unlikely to even win at level 100. So he would have to grind wild pidgeys with that graveler to escape.
I did the same thing with a Wurmple before the first gym in Hoenn recently. Then I played through all of the game with it up to Phoebe, and I was all hyped to finish and do a giant video on it... and my dad's girlfriend has lost the DS with the cartridge in it. Yikes.
every soft lock is the same, get rid of your money, items and all but one useless pokemon on any island, or area where you cant escape without a tm. they are literally all the same. what do you mean shockingly creative?
If you’re curious: The chance of being fully paralyzed for at least 177 out of 231 turns is the sum from n=177 to 231 of (231 nCr n)*(1/4)^n*(3/4)^(231-n)... ...which is about 1.204*10^-60. And that’s not even considering the extra RNG factors.
Question: does a pokemon lose PP if it loses a turn to paralysis/confusion (I tried to look it up onlibe but couldn't find it and I don't have a gen 3 game so I can't try it out myself :
Asprey: catches whole boxes of zubats and rattatas Me: okay... Asprey: trains a graveler to lv 100 before misty Me: You're insane! Asprey: does all of that with slow text speed Me: YOU ABSOLUTE MADMAN!
If pika really goes through all this effort to setup a softlock, I would prefer he just cheat the setup. The time it takes to prep would be better used for his own free time or more videos. Inb4 people crying about legitimacy. The setup isn't supposed to be a challenge. It is the preset before the real juice of the video. The softlockpicking should be legit though.
"At least it's early enough in the game that you can start over" Go fuck yourself. I raised a graveler to 100 and for the second half I was swapping in and out
Then the next one would be going back in time after learning the ins and outs of the game and teaching people how to get soft locked before the game existed
"Just take an ordanary pair of pliers and your pokemon cartridge and use the pliers to bend the contacts of the cartridge and congratulations you have effectivly ruined a perfectly good pokemon save file.
You basically created a "How to make that one Team Rocket grunt feel better about himself" video as he infinitely beats a level 100 Graveler. If he knew how to swap his Pokemon out, he'd be the best member of Team Rocket in no time.
"The method is so impossible to pull off that you're better off just starting a new game." Wait, has that been an option this whole time?! I've been trying for days to get past this stupid Team Rocket grunt!
Mathematically impossible means literally, truly impossible. This one is physically impossible (it's not possible to do it in the real, "physical" world) but mathematically possible (it's possible to do on paper, in the "math" world). It's mathematically possible to roll 1/4 so many times in a row, but it would take far longer than the age of the universe to do it, meaning it's physically impossible
This level of proving that a fail state technically does or doesn't exist reminds me of when my stepdad used to work at a Michelin tire plant and he had to "debug" and failproof machinery that either didn't have any kind of tech integration, or had just barely used code that was in COBOL or 4TRAN. So most of the time failproofing the machinery involved intentionally, physically throwing debris down the assembly line to fuck things up. And even back then, he heard many a fool cry "but that would never happen, who would ever do that to their machine?!?" The more things change, the more they stay the same.
@@thomasgif1834 I should ask him what he thinks of these kinds of videos. XD His in-depth Pokemon knowledge is limited to what things he's learned from Pokemon Go, but he'd probably still appreciate the RNG aspect. Maybe there's even another timeline where he's making these kinds of videos lol
Some people are casuals Some people do nuzlockes Some people do randomizers Some people do shiny hunting Some people are competionists *BUT ONLY ONE PERSON WANTS TO TRAP THEMSELVES IN A GAME* Guys chill I made this comment over a year ago I just wanted to make a joke. Stop with all the people correcting the grammar I made this at 4am and just wanted to say this. Chill
As someone who's worked on both romhacking and TASing FireRed, I can tell you that all trainer pokemon do indeed have set predetermined IVs and natures in the gen 3 games. As far as the likelihood of this happening, there are ways to manipulate paralysis. You have to be incredibly precise, of course, but using EonTimer along with finding out your RNG seed, you can find the exact frames to press A to select attacks, and as long as these fall on the correct frame, you will be paralyzed. RNG is not truly random, but rather just an algorithm that is ran once every frame on the overworld, and twice every frame in battle (for most of the time). The game will run the algorithm more times whenever it needs to determine random actions, but it still remains entirely able to be manipulated. I have done quite a bit of research into the RNG of the gen 3 games, and have used a lot of that research to make TASing the game easier by using a program I developed here- github.com/jvhbv/fire-red-rng-calculator. So if y'all wanna escape this one, you can always go the RNG manipulation route.
I’ve been thinking about this for a while. Rather than have to train Graveler all the way to level 100, it should be sufficient to train it until it learns its last possible level-up move. Just to save a little time ruining your game.
then again, your graveler would have way less health to survive with, which means the grunt is more likely to kill you from all the cumulative attacks being thrown at graveler
As a member of the speedrunning community, I can confirm with certainty that trainer Pokemon stats are 100% set, to the point that even when you use the Universal Pokemon Randomizer the randomized Pokemon will have the same EVs and IVs as the Pokemon it replaced.
Ever played pokémon outlaw? I beat the champion's lvl 60 suicune, moltres, articuno and zapdos with a lvl 50 jolteon by relying on paralisys, critical hits and full restore spamming. Literally landed 4 crits in a row, I'll never forget it.
Oh my God. Just the other day I was telling someone how sad I am that there are no more Soft Lock Picking or Gem Collecting episodes for me to watch, and that I couldn't wait for the next one. I was going through withdrawal. And now, my wish is granted! Though I also wish I could somehow make this video last until the next one.
Have you considered becoming a playtester? The amount of creativity you showcase with every episode of this series goes far beyond what the average playtester would think to do.
Actually it would take an hour at best and the actual solution is easier than what he proposed. Pidgey has sand attack. Let it hit you once or twice, do explosion, miss once or twice, quit, save and repeat.
@RaineTCG Y'don't blame her for thinking that if you manage to throw a grenade at someone and hit absolutely nobody with the detonation, the grenade will magically reform afterwards so you can use it again?
You touched upon a really interesting point at the end there: are ANY softlocks possible in Let's Go with an unreleasable starter and infinite TMs? Aren't there NPCs that give you free balls if you ever run out? And with permanent Secret Techniques instead of HMs, you'll likely have to be locked pretty early on.
In Pikachu, avoid all trainers possible, and waste all pokeballs, and trash all items. Raise Pikachu to level 26 by catching pokemon, and teach it only thunder shock, electro Ball, thunder wave, and spark. DEfeat everybody up untill brock.
@@tompatterson1548 there's still the girl in Pewter City that gives you cash every day for babysitting her Slowpoke. There's no way to stop someone from accessing that and getting money for Pokéballs and getting new Pokémon
Coming back after Austin of "The SCIENCE!" contextualizes how impossible this "improbable" is only adds to the level of wonder for how insane these setups can get. XD Heat death of the universe is more likely to happen than someone actually beating the odds (at least as an individual).
It is so funny how ps says „it would be easier to just start a new game“ everytime. As if someone would randomly come into a situation like this and really would try to escape it 😂😂
3:47 Golem just feels like it was meant to be the rock version of Magmar or Electabuzz but at some point in development someone lazily slapped it on as a 3rd evolution for geodude
When you explain escape methods I just imagine you as an anime genius that pushes up his glasses and the shine reflecting off of them makes the lenses completely white as you have a smug smile. I literally don't even watch anime I just know the meme lmao
you put such a ridiculous amount of research and dedication into these soft lock vids.. amazing! I love it! been waiting for another one of these tbh!!
A couple of tips when trying this for yourself: 1. You can use the clearing out of all previous battles in order to level up your Graveler. 2. Don't try this yourself.
The funny thing is that Poliwag and Psyduck, the two pokemon that could have Damp, are barely out of reach. Poliwags swim happily in the small pond in Viridian city, but you can't fight them without Good rod. In Fire Red, Psyducks are also there, as well as in route 4 waters (which would be right after Mt Moon), but you need either Surf or Super rod to fight one. And no trainer that you can fight of course has either of these pokemon.
Did you softlock? Asprey: Yes What did it cost? Asprey: 100 hours of grinding Also, don't forget that once you beat the Rocket grunt you also have to fight the fossil guy to advance
BUT! After you beat the rocket grunt you can just buy pokeballs and "Restart" your run lol ooor just train another graveler to 100 with the same moveset because escape is too good to claim..
You get about 400p from beating the grunt, enough for 2 pokeballs. You could easily catch another pokemon, train it up a little, and beat the scientist then go on your merry way.
"we don't know whether trainer pokemon have preset or random IVs and the internet doesn't agree on it either" he said, in november 2019, when we already had the decompilations, afraid the internet people you asked weren't quite up to date ;) the correct answer is (according to the source code): it depends on the trainer. most have only a preset level and random IVs, but a few important named trainers (not the rocket grunt in your case) have preset IVs. interestingly, the personality value is computed as a hash of the mon's species name, the trainer's name, the type (single or double) of the battle, and apparently sometimes the encounter music used in the battle, but since randomized IVs in gen3 are not generated from the personality, they are actually random in this case, while other personality based values (such as shinyness, gender or ability) are deterministic in the same circumstances even without being preset.
Very interesting lock indeed, but you missed a tiny little detail that undoes all this work. In Mt Moon there are hidden Tiny and Big Mushrooms that have a chance to regenerate after taking a certain amount of steps. So you can walk around until you find enough shrooms to be able to afford Poké Balls, catch something else, defeat the Rocket Grunt and escape the lock.
16 years ago I witnessed a guy insert a jar in his ass, smash the jar, and then remove the shards from inside of himself by hand, and this video was far, far worse than that. Thanks, @Pikasprey Yellow.
Heyyyy! Glad to see another entry to the series! Love the content and the commentary, keep up the good work! Also sorry for not being able to come up with any ideas, but kudos to the people who do, you guys really try to think of everything!
probably wont be any way to perma softlock the games, just due to the fact that your pikachu/eevee cannot be released. Even if you disable TM's they can still struggle.
That's going to be very difficult seeing how starting in gen 5, TMs can be used infinitely. Although Gen 4 is very easily doable. He should work on that next.
The only way foreseeable way to save softlock in the new games is some sort of collision clipping. (Acually, in SwSh, in order to end one of the battles, you must catch a pokemon, though having full PC boxes and party won't allow you to catch it, but it isn't a save softlock.)
paralysis when trying to escape a softlock: 1/4
paralysis when you’re trying to win an important battle: 4/4
@ seriously-
Faaaacts
it's 5/4
Its 1/1
lmfao
You mean to say this ISN'T how I'm supposed to play the game? I always throw my starter away and grind a geodude to a level 100 graveler with his only attacking moves being self destruct and explosion before fighting that rocket grunt. That explains why I thought the game went downhill from there.
I see you are a man of culture as well
Yeah the story really takes a dive once you get Selfdestruct tbh
Wait what I thought he was showing us an escape method
im pretty sure he’s showing us a speedrun strategy.
why scott isnt an rpg guy
"This is the LockPickingLawyer and what I have for you today is a lvl 100 Graveler"
LOL
That BosnianBill and I made
Tonight on "When UA-cam Fandoms Overlap"
Click on pin 2 and 5
"So when I saw the package said "level 100 security" I just had to check it out"
Game: So you physically have a 1 in 10^3020 chance in order to get past this one Grunt.
Pikasprey: So you’re saying there’s a chance?
There should be no negative sign before 3020
Never tell me the odds!
If those are the odds, so be it.
-pikasprey
I coded up a little 4-sided dice simulator. Did 4.3 million iterations of 231 rolls. Most a single side ever hit was 96 times. It was a 3.
@@sachin251998 not really, since beforehand he says "1 in"
"Rocket grunt, I've come to bargain"
Underrated comment.
@@HashtagTSwagg really is tbh
10/10
You commented this on another video.
Gormamu
"it can be done so early"
*Level 100 Graveller*
Progression wise.
well it can... takes fing forever though
Just try to acquire as many rare candies as you can (assuming the pokemon that have pickup are available it may not take all that long).
@@hitkid2456 From what I can tell you can't acquire Pickup until Route 5 with Meowth, after Mt Moon.
@@RAFMnBgaming Dang. I figured it would be something like that... Welp.
I laughed pretty hard at the self destruct missing the level 6 Pidgey.
6:05 lol
Well quite honestly there is another way to escape. With better odds.
First encounter wild lvl 5 or higher pidgey and waste mudsport till it hits you 6 times with sand attack then attempt missing self destruct 5 times.
(Due to odds still being against you you want to set up this checkpoint when you're there. If you fail no biggie just rince and repeat from the start)
After you've done that flee the battle and save.
Then repeat the whole thing with mudsport and explosion.
(On fail restart to the save)
Once you've wasted all selfdestruct and explosion PPs find wild kakunas and safcons to waste your remaining PPs on.
Then beat the grunt with struggle and move on and struggle out the Nerd.
And by then youre able to move tutor your graveler mega punch to just continue the game till it's finish
@@kevinniemann8218 Missing self destruct still KOs you.
*Nuclear bomb goes off. Pidgy dips behind a hill and returns to a blackened wasteland with everyone dead* ...welp imma head out
@@kevinniemann8218 He addressed that in the video. Even if it misses you still faint. You definitely need to watch the video before trying to be a smart ass.
Step 1: Play until Mt Moon
Step 2: Catch a Geodude
Step 3: Train a Graveler to lvl 100
Well, that escalated quickly.
It's wow not well... gotta use memes correctly if you're gonna try to get likes using memes from 2010..
@@SPFLDAngler I think he was just saying a sentence...
Ursine Maximus Imagine being so stuck up you get mad someone used a different word. It happens a lot, most meme formats themselves use the wrong words.
Ursine Maximus i can smell you through this comment
@@SPFLDAngler reddit moment
This one is actually pretty easy to escape because of a feature in FRLG that you've overlooked. On the Mt. Moon floor in-between the first floor and the floor with the Rocket Grunt, Tiny and Big Mushrooms are hidden items in the rocks. These mushrooms have a chance to regenerate after taking a certain number of steps. You can sell these to obtain money with which you can buy Poke Balls, catch Pokemon, and escape. Since they are infinitely renewable, there is no way you can trap yourself once you have access to Mt. Moon and before jumping the ledge to Cerulean.
Wow, that is a surprisingly easy workaround so many people missed.
Very interesting. I did not know they they would replenish like a berry tree.
But that's not as fun, is it?
Wow I had no idea those could regenerate.
Dry battery would prevent this if you threw them out, right?
I'm just imagining somewhere some five year old bringing the game to their older brother and saying "I'm stuck, help me get past" and they've somehow managed to get themselves into this scenario
The only thing worst then being the younger brother in that situation is being the older brother and absolutely failing to be able to help.
@@Charles_Anthony what are you talking about? start a new game, get all the way back without letting your brother know and bullshit your way through his many questions. "how did you get pokeballs?" "oh you know, i used a celfairy to get money........"
@@megasora4 "Oh, I just used a secret stash that's in the game, but I can't tell you where it is."
@@megasora4 Oooor "Where's my level 100 Graveler?"
Master Blaster That’s the real question lmao
Make this Graveler a Shiny and give this copy to someone saying: "You can have that Graveler - if you can get it."
HRCFr34k it’d be easier to shiny hunt for a new Geodude at that point
@@DidgeridudeEX LMAO True...
@@DidgeridudeEX For that matter you could shiny-hunt 15 Geodudes at that point with how astronomical the chance of escaping this softlock is
Holy shit this is diabolical
You just gave me a free FR/LG copy. Fuck Graveler, thanks for the game.
As fascinating as these videos are to me I cant help but hear "I cant decide whether this can be considered a flaw on the game's part" and not think "QA cannot account for flaws in the base human nature of the player"
That last part is 100% something I'd say as a game dev if someone tried this on a game I made, hahaha
I never thought I'd see the day when someone would actually depend on their pokemon being fully paralyzed in order to progress the game.
LMFAO
That is hell: just battling a ratatta for all eternity as a graveler, forever hoping for that astronomical chance to be free.
eventually, graveler stopped thinking
One day he will see freedom, and it will be beautiful.
hell 4 someone cheated in pokemon lmao
IT HAS STURDY HOW
@@flightsimulatorlad6664 a level 100 ultimate life form and nothing to do with it
"At least with this one, it happens so early that starting over is barely a problem at all" - Pikasprey, who has spent probably literally cumulative DAYS engineering this situation.
@@Dryicelegendsofhero the venasaur was at a convincing level for the graveler to hit lv100. Even if he used rare candies, he sure put a lot of thought into the situation. More likely had an emulator to speed up the battles
@@Dryicelegendsofhero Yeah. Thats why his Starter is level 76 lmfao.
No he quite obviously did not use rare candies.
Shellshocked Bros could use rare candies on both lol.
But likely did a mixture
@@fatuusdottore Any rare candies they found on the ground yeah.
I always see people who say things like "No way he grinded that much. Probably hacked in the rare candies himself."
@@shellshockedbros4458 I mean there'd be no reason to do the grind. He could do it, he seems like the type crazy enough to, but honestly, why would he? He can get the same footage so much easier, and without putting in days of effort.
"Paralysis has a 1 in 4 chance" That's a funny way of saying "LITERALLY EVERY GOD DAMN TURN IF IT'S MY OWN POKEMON"
It's 1 in 4 for the npc, and 3 in 4 for players
Confusion is my pokemon punches himself to death and does nothing to the opponent
@@kinnikuboneman wait, really?
@@2810Mad no it's a joke
@@kinnikuboneman only 3 of 4? Your lucky
I swear, every time you propose a solution to a soft lock it's even more evil than the last
i love that your voice sounds like a slightly more enthused squidward, i love it
sounds like a rare insult
Put on .75 speed for maximum squidward effect
Good god
dear god
Horribly racist of you, wow...
No one gonna mention he just grinded a Graveler to lvl 100 before end of Mt. Moon, you know how long that shit would take, dedication to you my friend!
Or that Pikachu
Williem DeFriend Johnstone and JRose11 still got nothing on this guy in terms of being a mad lad.
If I had to guess he probably used a gameshark
@@skhotzim_bacon you know, any other youtuber I would agree with you. But this crazy son of a bitch?
Nah, he leveled the old fashioned way.
@@MrTrigun1 yes using an emulator and speeding shit up
you probably could've just done it at level 62, when graveler learns its last level-up move, but you madlad, you actually brought it all the way and i applaud you
Also level 62 makes the escape harder since graveler has to survive so many turns it is unlikely to even win at level 100.
So he would have to grind wild pidgeys with that graveler to escape.
I did the same thing with a Wurmple before the first gym in Hoenn recently. Then I played through all of the game with it up to Phoebe, and I was all hyped to finish and do a giant video on it... and my dad's girlfriend has lost the DS with the cartridge in it. Yikes.
I'm sure he knew that, but he did it anyway because the Internet told him to.
well gravalers in mount moon would of been able to self-destruct first and you would of gained EXP
@@unknownguy1287 At lvl 62 nothing is out-speeding you in Mt. Moon, they're too low levelled. Secondly, there are no wild Gravelers.
This series is like watching somebody play chest against themselves.
*Chest*
you need to breathe though your chest
C h e s t
Chess*
What the fck does my reply even have 5 likes
Man, I love these. I don't know how you come up with these, they're shockingly creative
2nd like
He doesn't think of them, we do. He just solves them.
Woo hoo mah-dry-bread I wonder what fossil he took. Everyone ask. It’s good for the UA-cam algorithm
every soft lock is the same, get rid of your money, items and all but one useless pokemon on any island, or area where you cant escape without a tm. they are literally all the same. what do you mean shockingly creative?
@@UA-camIsAGarbagePit Pikachu
If you’re curious:
The chance of being fully paralyzed for at least 177 out of 231 turns is the sum from n=177 to 231 of (231 nCr n)*(1/4)^n*(3/4)^(231-n)...
...which is about 1.204*10^-60.
And that’s not even considering the extra RNG factors.
Finally someone with the right answer
Mariobrosaa Productions Thanks for doing the math, I had a feeling it would be absurdly tiny
I gave you a like for running the math. It needed to be done
Dammit, I wanted to post the math for it, lol. Although I forgot the N choose R in mine, so it would have been wrong anyway :P
Question: does a pokemon lose PP if it loses a turn to paralysis/confusion (I tried to look it up onlibe but couldn't find it and I don't have a gen 3 game so I can't try it out myself :
Calculate the time required per attempt
Calculate the odds
Show that the expected time is greater than the age of the universe
"On a separate game, I captured an entire box of Ratatta-"
You did *_WHAT_*
@@romansrevengethethirdstrik8086 no Pokemon, it's a joke because of gen 2 Joey
"Remember my super cool Rattata? My Rattata is different from regular Rattata. It’s like my Rattata is in the top percentage of all Rattata."
@Cosmofox "*my rattata is the top percentage of all rattata*
He trained them too. HE SPENT TIME GRINDING 30 RATATA TO LEVEL 13
But were any of them in the top percentage of Rattata?
Asprey: catches whole boxes of zubats and rattatas
Me: okay...
Asprey: trains a graveler to lv 100 before misty
Me: You're insane!
Asprey: does all of that with slow text speed
Me: YOU ABSOLUTE MADMAN!
No wonder it takes him ages to put up a new video
If pika really goes through all this effort to setup a softlock, I would prefer he just cheat the setup. The time it takes to prep would be better used for his own free time or more videos.
Inb4 people crying about legitimacy. The setup isn't supposed to be a challenge. It is the preset before the real juice of the video. The softlockpicking should be legit though.
And with battle animations on
R/madlads
"At least it's early enough in the game that you can start over"
Go fuck yourself. I raised a graveler to 100 and for the second half I was swapping in and out
This man deserves a PHD in Pokémon.
He's not that smart.. even says that he does simple things in old games to appear smart.
Ursine Maximus Yeah well but your dumbass isn’t any smarter.
The real PhDs in Pokemon are speedrunners, specifically Werster
Lamb Chop i just realise that phd means
Pokemon has died
And
Pokemon hasn't died
@@atreyabhamidi9602 Yeah agreed
I love how I can just take one look, ONE LOOK at this video and go "Ah, I see Pikasprey's back on his bullshit again." I love it.
PizzaWithAnchovies HAHAHA FR
new pikasprey video: How to get soft locked *before even playing the game*
then the next one would be soft locking a game before it even existed
Then the next one would be going back in time after learning the ins and outs of the game and teaching people how to get soft locked before the game existed
Get married and have a child. *Softlocked.*
"Just take an ordanary pair of pliers and your pokemon cartridge and use the pliers to bend the contacts of the cartridge and congratulations you have effectivly ruined a perfectly good pokemon save file.
You can in Yellow by pushing an NPC to tall grass
This is exactly the kind of hardcore pokemon masochism that my life needs.
Me: Wants to sleep for once
Pikasprey: *no*
Same
Me, for real
“Unfortunately, I thought of your sleep schedule too”
@@creeperman1295 lol
Creeperman129 can have the hidden ability vital spirt preventing sleep so that idea is impossible
You basically created a "How to make that one Team Rocket grunt feel better about himself" video as he infinitely beats a level 100 Graveler. If he knew how to swap his Pokemon out, he'd be the best member of Team Rocket in no time.
He can swap every turn and not use a single move ever.
And then he gets promoted to Second-In-Command.
If enemies could gain exp with every win, that grunt would have kicked giovanni's ass and become the new head of team rocket...
"The method is so impossible to pull off that you're better off just starting a new game."
Wait, has that been an option this whole time?! I've been trying for days to get past this stupid Team Rocket grunt!
But you could use the old man's weedle smh
The best softlocks are the ones where it's so extremely mathematically improbable to escape from.
Mathematically impossible means literally, truly impossible. This one is physically impossible (it's not possible to do it in the real, "physical" world) but mathematically possible (it's possible to do on paper, in the "math" world). It's mathematically possible to roll 1/4 so many times in a row, but it would take far longer than the age of the universe to do it, meaning it's physically impossible
This level of proving that a fail state technically does or doesn't exist reminds me of when my stepdad used to work at a Michelin tire plant and he had to "debug" and failproof machinery that either didn't have any kind of tech integration, or had just barely used code that was in COBOL or 4TRAN. So most of the time failproofing the machinery involved intentionally, physically throwing debris down the assembly line to fuck things up. And even back then, he heard many a fool cry "but that would never happen, who would ever do that to their machine?!?"
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
weird flex but ok
At least with the debris thing, someone could conceivably do it by not paying attention to what they're doing.
I can see that being a potential scenario if a pissed employee who just got fired throws a bunch of debris into the machine to try and destroy it.
@@tanukigalpa yep! Stuff like that is why he kept his job for a real long time, because you never know XD
@@thomasgif1834 I should ask him what he thinks of these kinds of videos. XD His in-depth Pokemon knowledge is limited to what things he's learned from Pokemon Go, but he'd probably still appreciate the RNG aspect. Maybe there's even another timeline where he's making these kinds of videos lol
Aight, now somebody do a TAS where this soft-lock is actually escaped from. That'd be quite the feat of RNG manipulation!
The real softlock is the entire region after finishing the post-game content.
This made me existential
My god.
There’s no point to playing games after 100%
@@FrostGlader Shiny hunting.
ZERO TALENT true, but still, I was talking in a broader sense.
We can only hope for a massive open world RPG Pokemon, can we?
"I caught a whole box of Zubat" So only about half the Zubat you normally encounter travelling through Mount Moon?
More like a sixteenth
I don't even think a sixteenth is good enough. Those zubat reproduce like freaking fruit flies.
Got to throw the whole mountain away now.
There's like a million and fifty now Bills mad at me because I've sent so many Zubat straight to his PC.
More like only 1%
Asprey: “you heard that right, max level by Mt Moon.”
Me, having seen Johnstone do the Prof Oak Challenge for way too many games: *completely unfazed*
I don’t know which is harder, because he grinds lots of stuff in POC which is hard on weak Pokémon but this is probably harder tbh
"it can be done so early"
Level 100 Graveller
Me, an AbsolBlogsPokemon watcher: are you going to level it up to 100 in a funny way tho?
It's incredible how pointless yet absolutely genius this video is.
This pretty much sums up the entire Softlock Picking series lol
Some people are casuals
Some people do nuzlockes
Some people do randomizers
Some people do shiny hunting
Some people are competionists
*BUT ONLY ONE PERSON WANTS TO TRAP THEMSELVES IN A GAME*
Guys chill I made this comment over a year ago I just wanted to make a joke. Stop with all the people correcting the grammar I made this at 4am and just wanted to say this. Chill
Himself*
Actually I’ve seen a small handful of people try softlocking in Pokemon.
2*
I feel bad for the isekai bus that comes for this dude
@@Michaelrandom27 Not incorrect. Do try again.
As someone who's worked on both romhacking and TASing FireRed, I can tell you that all trainer pokemon do indeed have set predetermined IVs and natures in the gen 3 games. As far as the likelihood of this happening, there are ways to manipulate paralysis. You have to be incredibly precise, of course, but using EonTimer along with finding out your RNG seed, you can find the exact frames to press A to select attacks, and as long as these fall on the correct frame, you will be paralyzed. RNG is not truly random, but rather just an algorithm that is ran once every frame on the overworld, and twice every frame in battle (for most of the time). The game will run the algorithm more times whenever it needs to determine random actions, but it still remains entirely able to be manipulated. I have done quite a bit of research into the RNG of the gen 3 games, and have used a lot of that research to make TASing the game easier by using a program I developed here- github.com/jvhbv/fire-red-rng-calculator. So if y'all wanna escape this one, you can always go the RNG manipulation route.
Should’ve called it *gravelock*
Signature move being lock throw?
EEEEEEYYYYYYYY
300th like
Hard Rock.
Badumtsiii
F for that over leveled starter
Nah, that starter's the only one to get out of this with half its sanity intact.
I’ve been thinking about this for a while. Rather than have to train Graveler all the way to level 100, it should be sufficient to train it until it learns its last possible level-up move. Just to save a little time ruining your game.
then again, your graveler would have way less health to survive with, which means the grunt is more likely to kill you from all the cumulative attacks being thrown at graveler
For once, people are hoping not to move while a Pokemon is paralyzed...
And thatis when you hit 3/4 times
pokemon: fun for everyone!
pikasprey: hold my geodude
You mean smergle...
As a member of the speedrunning community, I can confirm with certainty that trainer Pokemon stats are 100% set, to the point that even when you use the Universal Pokemon Randomizer the randomized Pokemon will have the same EVs and IVs as the Pokemon it replaced.
“Every turn, you have a 1 in 4 chance to be not able to move.”
More like, you have a 4 in 4 chance, and your opponent has a 0 in 4.
Except that when you are trying to get out of a softlock, you have a 0.1000^6092 in four chance of moving and you can't ever move once
Ever played pokémon outlaw? I beat the champion's lvl 60 suicune, moltres, articuno and zapdos with a lvl 50 jolteon by relying on paralisys, critical hits and full restore spamming. Literally landed 4 crits in a row, I'll never forget it.
@@viniciushenriquepinheiroba1036 Wow, that's insane luck
Except that in this situation, it's more like 1/10
@@viniciushenriquepinheiroba1036 reminds me of that time I landed on free parkning in monopoly and it kept the game from ending for a whilke
"Hello, there!
Glad to meet you!
Welcome to the world of Pokemon!
My name is OAK.
People affectio-"
*YOU JUST SOFTLOCKED THE GAME*
*AGAIN*
"Paralysis has a 1 in 4 chance of happening every turn"
My Pokémon when I'm trying to play competitive: *Observe*
Yeah lmao
Oh my God. Just the other day I was telling someone how sad I am that there are no more Soft Lock Picking or Gem Collecting episodes for me to watch, and that I couldn't wait for the next one. I was going through withdrawal. And now, my wish is granted! Though I also wish I could somehow make this video last until the next one.
I'm just someone who watches videos multiple times
Do the challenge itself until the next one comes out if you have the game.
@@justinweber649 Sadly I do not have the game. 😩
@@bottinator22 So do I, but that only gets me so far, and it's never the same as the first time around. 😅
@@NoriMori1992 I mean, emulators are a thing, and they are free
pikasprey is the only entertaining monotone voice I have ever heard
It's so ironic that that person you got trapped with is the grunt you play as in fire red rocket edition
My dude did a freakin survey on zubats and rattatas. That's dedication
Finally, my favorite pokemon series is back!
Have you considered becoming a playtester? The amount of creativity you showcase with every episode of this series goes far beyond what the average playtester would think to do.
The solution would take so long that the atoms in your game cartridge would decay, ruining the electronics before you finish.
Actually it would take an hour at best and the actual solution is easier than what he proposed. Pidgey has sand attack. Let it hit you once or twice, do explosion, miss once or twice, quit, save and repeat.
@@sashapaleologue1234 Missing with Explosion still KOs Graveler, as he mentions in the video.
@@ColonelMustache oh lol I must have skipped that part, it's interesting. Indeed it makes it very unlikely to escape if it's the case
@@sashapaleologue1234 It was literally one of the first things that he mentions lmfao
@RaineTCG Y'don't blame her for thinking that if you manage to throw a grenade at someone and hit absolutely nobody with the detonation, the grenade will magically reform afterwards so you can use it again?
I was thinking pretty early on, "He's got to get paralyzed and stall for a million turns, doesn't he?"
I love the Ace Attorney and Zero Escape music. It’s very fitting.
I'm a simple man, I see a pikasprey video, I let out a gorilla screech and immediately slam like
You touched upon a really interesting point at the end there: are ANY softlocks possible in Let's Go with an unreleasable starter and infinite TMs? Aren't there NPCs that give you free balls if you ever run out? And with permanent Secret Techniques instead of HMs, you'll likely have to be locked pretty early on.
In Pikachu, avoid all trainers possible, and waste all pokeballs, and trash all items. Raise Pikachu to level 26 by catching pokemon, and teach it only thunder shock, electro Ball, thunder wave, and spark. DEfeat everybody up untill brock.
I believe the softlock outside of Cerulean City from the older games is still a problem in Let's Go where you get trapped by a trainer
@@tompatterson1548 there's still the girl in Pewter City that gives you cash every day for babysitting her Slowpoke. There's no way to stop someone from accessing that and getting money for Pokéballs and getting new Pokémon
You can get trainer trapped, but that's not a softlock, that's a GBJ
Xetheon ?
putting Zero Escape OST in the background was the perfect choice for this kind of video
Coming back after Austin of "The SCIENCE!" contextualizes how impossible this "improbable" is only adds to the level of wonder for how insane these setups can get. XD
Heat death of the universe is more likely to happen than someone actually beating the odds (at least as an individual).
Love the Ace Attorney and Virtue’s Last Reward Background Music. Super underrated games
Imagine not getting paralyzed in this softlock, while in any other times you get paralyzed, you always do almost all the time.
It is so funny how ps says „it would be easier to just start a new game“ everytime. As if someone would randomly come into a situation like this and really would try to escape it 😂😂
The softlock picking lawyer is back! I love this format. Thanks Pikasprey
i could swear paralysis has like a 90% chance on my pokemon
3:47 Golem just feels like it was meant to be the rock version of Magmar or Electabuzz but at some point in development someone lazily slapped it on as a 3rd evolution for geodude
When you explain escape methods I just imagine you as an anime genius that pushes up his glasses and the shine reflecting off of them makes the lenses completely white as you have a smug smile.
I literally don't even watch anime I just know the meme lmao
So Pokemon isn't an anime now?
is anime over yet
you put such a ridiculous amount of research and dedication into these soft lock vids.. amazing!
I love it! been waiting for another one of these tbh!!
Legitimately one of my favorite series in the entirety of life
I'm commenting so that the algorithm boosts this.
Thank you, algorithm showed me this
Carefully, he's a -hero- god
Wonder what fossil he would have picked?
Mika Schumacjer used Comment!
*Video's Popularity rose sharply!*
thank you
Speaking of Let's Go, let's see a video on them to see just how childproof they are.
A couple of tips when trying this for yourself:
1. You can use the clearing out of all previous battles in order to level up your Graveler.
2. Don't try this yourself.
Coming back to this video after Austin’s video, time to rewatch the whole series!
Where's a DAMP USER when you need one...
I read that as as Damp Dumpster and was perfectly fine accepting that
@@blueshell292 hot tbh
The funny thing is that Poliwag and Psyduck, the two pokemon that could have Damp, are barely out of reach. Poliwags swim happily in the small pond in Viridian city, but you can't fight them without Good rod. In Fire Red, Psyducks are also there, as well as in route 4 waters (which would be right after Mt Moon), but you need either Surf or Super rod to fight one. And no trainer that you can fight of course has either of these pokemon.
Wow, this is the first time I've seen someone's video after it was JUST uploaded!
First
first
This comment being one of the top is a clear indicator that this guy's fanbase are a bunch of little kids.
@@CyberCheese392 wow, what a diss. its not like hes trying to make content for mature adults, its about fucking pokemon, friend.
Did you softlock?
Asprey: Yes
What did it cost?
Asprey: 100 hours of grinding
Also, don't forget that once you beat the Rocket grunt you also have to fight the fossil guy to advance
BUT! After you beat the rocket grunt you can just buy pokeballs and "Restart" your run lol ooor just train another graveler to 100 with the same moveset because escape is too good to claim..
You get about 400p from beating the grunt, enough for 2 pokeballs. You could easily catch another pokemon, train it up a little, and beat the scientist then go on your merry way.
An interesting alternative would be what if Pikasprey chose the Fossil guy instead of the Rocket Grunt.
@@WaterKirby1994 It would be much harder because If I remember correctly, that guy has three Pokémon, and two of them can poison you
@@tonytang7550 Pokemon can't be poisoned if they are paralyzed already.
This is honestly my favorite series on UA-cam, few and far between as the episodes may be.
Another great episode of "Playing Pokemon in the most complicated way ever conceived by man".
Awesome job.
wow i need more videos like this !! there aren’t enough i binged them all in a day . great content though c:
Also here from Austin’s video on ShoddyCast! Can’t wait to binge all these!
"we don't know whether trainer pokemon have preset or random IVs and the internet doesn't agree on it either" he said, in november 2019, when we already had the decompilations, afraid the internet people you asked weren't quite up to date ;)
the correct answer is (according to the source code): it depends on the trainer. most have only a preset level and random IVs, but a few important named trainers (not the rocket grunt in your case) have preset IVs.
interestingly, the personality value is computed as a hash of the mon's species name, the trainer's name, the type (single or double) of the battle, and apparently sometimes the encounter music used in the battle, but since randomized IVs in gen3 are not generated from the personality, they are actually random in this case, while other personality based values (such as shinyness, gender or ability) are deterministic in the same circumstances even without being preset.
Austin from @ShoddyCast sent me you utter mad man! Nice work!
10:35 literally who else is putting this much effort into a pokemon soft-lock video? You're the best Pikasprey
Now I understand why you where so pissed off at that shiny Geodude in the Smeargle challenge XD
I really wanna see the devs react to this series.
Very interesting lock indeed, but you missed a tiny little detail that undoes all this work. In Mt Moon there are hidden Tiny and Big Mushrooms that have a chance to regenerate after taking a certain amount of steps. So you can walk around until you find enough shrooms to be able to afford Poké Balls, catch something else, defeat the Rocket Grunt and escape the lock.
Poor Graveler can't even go out with a bang
Basically
Softlock: wanted paralysis work
Normal: please no paralysis
0:21 “Onix-pected ways”
The fact that he thought all this out makes my head hurt
At least he got a lot of Views on this video.
16 years ago I witnessed a guy insert a jar in his ass, smash the jar, and then remove the shards from inside of himself by hand, and this video was far, far worse than that. Thanks, @Pikasprey Yellow.
Heyyyy! Glad to see another entry to the series! Love the content and the commentary, keep up the good work! Also sorry for not being able to come up with any ideas, but kudos to the people who do, you guys really try to think of everything!
I think to myself "What kind of loser has the time to come up with this stuff and do it?"
*Proceeds to watch whole series of soft locking videos*
Speaking of Lets Go:
Is there a way to softlock that?
So far no it not possible yet
Ive seen some but you can just reset
probably wont be any way to perma softlock the games, just due to the fact that your pikachu/eevee cannot be released. Even if you disable TM's they can still struggle.
My favorite soft locks are the ones where the odds of actually escape are despair inducing
Also, I would love to see a soft lock of the newer games. I can't sleep at night thinking they are foolproof.
That's going to be very difficult seeing how starting in gen 5, TMs can be used infinitely. Although Gen 4 is very easily doable. He should work on that next.
The only way foreseeable way to save softlock in the new games is some sort of collision clipping. (Acually, in SwSh, in order to end one of the battles, you must catch a pokemon, though having full PC boxes and party won't allow you to catch it, but it isn't a save softlock.)