The Perfect Gen 3 Pokemon Speedrun is INSANE
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No.
I have terminal RAIDS now.
@@MsMoonDragoon Since when did Blizzard own Raid?
Who even cares? If they offer the bag, take the bag.@@MsMoonDragoon
A minor youtuber taking their money is literally a net negative for them if nobody actually signs up, and why would people sign up? @@bucketslash11
Really interesting how TAS strats differ so much from RTA strats, glitches that would save 5 minutes in RTA aren't even worth it in the world of TAS!
That’s fascinating thanks :)
@@frogtoad8692facadinating
This TAS guy is so good fr
@@iseegreen5297he just beats everyone in every game
This TAS guy sounds insane. No wonder why he's not allowed on the speedrun records
Btw crit qclaw isn't under 1%, it's just over at 1.25% (0.0625×0.2)×100
Yeah literally was about to say that tooxD
I thought this too. But hes counting the quick claw crit AND the hit prior being small enough to not proc the berry. So 1.25% slapped off the side of another maybe 50 or 60 drops the 1.25 to like 0.75 or some such
i thought gen 3 crits were 1/24?
He was probably considering a 10% activation rate for QC, which is the rate for basically any other held item in gen 3
6:00 the IVs could potentially make the RNG requirements even worse:
if the Zigzagoon is -Speed with low IV and the Ralts is +Speed with high IV, it’s possible for the two to be speedtied, so you’d need to also win the coinflip on turn 2
RNG manips in pokemon is truly the embodiment of "Reality Can Be Whatever I Want"
Honestly I'm so impressed that human runs are so close to the TAS. Only about a 25 minute difference ? 25 seconds can be a huge deal in speedrunning, but for an rngfest like Pokemon I was expecting the TAS to be able to chop off an hour at least.
Honestly I don't see why pokémon would save that much more time when the tas doesn't move any faster than a human and most of the time save comes from crits/insane rng
@@Dragostorm21TAS is always designed for optimal gameplay. These are theoretically possible for humans, depending on inputs per second the TAS is allowed.
In the Mario community, TAS discovered a wrong warp that requires Mario to backwards short hop into a wall to displace Mario’s screen position and simultaneously save time on a full stop jump. It was deemed humanly impossible, until an easier way to pull it off was discovered and the trick became staple in all world records.
What’s impressive is when the TAS sets the legal record, and the human time is as close as it is for these games.
@@LocalMaple what does that have to do with anything I said?
Edit: I meant that pokémon doesn't have much time to save besides on the strats themselves, where it gets insane rng. That isn't that much compared to literally just walking
@@Dragostorm21 It’s just that your comment of “big whoop” was like saying “so what if a mechanical paddle boat crossed the 10 mile wide sea a mere 20 minutes faster than a human.” That actually means the human rowers were within a couple mph of optimal travel.
It’s the fact that humans are so close to perfection that makes it impressive. And you said “Honestly I don’t see [why this is impressive],” while giving examples of why it’s so impressive.
@@LocalMaple "so close", while giving mario as an example (mario 64 is less than a second from the tas).
Having said that, I will agree that I undervalued this tas a little and overlooked overworld encounters as a way tas can get extra timesave in the overworld.
But I stand by what I said: pokémon tasing has less ways to save time a lot of other speedruns since you basically only save time on the strategy portion (a nd a little on not using repels), which leaves most of the walking (which is at least half of the run) almost equal to a human run.
And the runs aren't really comparable at all since all the strats rely on insane rng, unlike with Mario where you can learn the inputs at some point. With pokémon without extra discoveries the only way this happens is if someone is willing to grind, which isn't as impressive imo.
Having said all of that, I don't want to sound overly rude or entirely disagree that it is an impressive speedrun. I just feel that pokémon isn't a comparable speedrun to most other common speed games due to the insane rng being the major time save, and thus should be appreciated more for it's rng abuse rather than human comparasons. And the fact that the insane rng saves as little time is indeed quite amazing, to the point that I wonder what a human equivalent run would actually be able to save. Kinda like the human equivalent runs of other tases.
requiring multiple repeated turns to be crit quick claw miss turns is hilarious, and it's funny that it works
So THIS is thunder armor swellow
Lmao
Damn, Swellow hitting that 87.5% range on Flannery was kinda crazy
It is early gen crit, which is 2x and not 1.5x
@@obiwancannoli1920 I don't think you understand the reference
@@lukaskback9710 I don't lol, what's the reference?
@@obiwancannoli1920 A UA-camr/Streamer named PokémonChallenges spent the better part of a year trying to nuzlocke a difficult ROM hack called Emerald Kaizo. During his winning attempt, he got an iconic Taillow named Pilot, which is a 1% chance to get early game because it's overpowered.
Pilot ended up carrying a lot of the run, sweeping several difficult fights including both Brawly and Watson. Flannery is the biggest run killer in the first half of this game, and Swellow hit an 87.5% damage roll to OHKO her Blaziken, and ended up sweeping 5 of her 6 Pokémon, and hence "Pilot hit an 87.5% range on Flannery" became a meme.
@@obiwancannoli1920Pchal’s 151st run of Emerald Kaizo, I think.
TAS runs are always amazing and the theoretically perfect run is so fascinating every time, even if they follow the same route as the normal runs but expertly executed.
The funniest thing about tas “theoretically perfect runs” is when they are so wrong someone goes and beats the tas with human skill.
@@ultimaterecoil1136 I know, right?! Spyro the Dragon was my favourite example of that :b
@@ultimaterecoil1136 That only ever happens when someone discovers new tricks which drastically change the route and save a lot of time, and then RTAs get to bank that time-save first because TASes take a while to make. But RTAs never stay in front for very long, and as soon as someone makes a new TAS incorporating the newer strats, the TAS takes the lead again.
Man. Now every time i see facade in game i read it as fakadee.
Yoooo, I love that you used the Duelist of the Roses OST in the background in this video. That goes so hard!
8:50 A Quick claw activation happening on the same turn as a Critical hit actuall has about a 1.25% chance of happening, not less than a 1% chance
Ok
The "two occurrences" Pulse references are not quick claw proc + crit. They are "live Rock Throw in Torrent and deal the highest damage that doesn't trigger Berry" turn 1 and "quick claw proc + crit" turn 2.
Regular runs used to use the Abra trick for getting back to Petalburg, but now days we skip the Abra, get poisoned in Flannery's gym and knock ourselves out.
That is wrong, it's quite literally the opposite. Runs only fairly recently started getting Abra in Sapphire. Having Abra saves time in movement, makes Flannery less of a troll, because said poison was unreliable to get from Smog, and makes Tate & Liza more consistent.
You can probably search for rates of background radiation bitflipping by using a livestream of this run and have a second program verify every button at the right time.
What's background radiation bitflipping? I've never heard of that before.
@@Zer0_Soulradiation can cause a singular bit in code to “flip” from a 0 to a 1 or vice versa, which changes the information that is stored.
The funky little effects that particles from space or radiation can have on electronics is kinda wild. Radiation bit flips are a genuine cause of concern for satellites for example
Background radiation is just the “basic” radiation that exists within the universe without us doing anything. Technically, the universe is _sliiiiightly_ radioactive by itself. A banana is more radioactive tho
this is really cool to think about thanks
Finally another pulseeffects video
If Slaking clicks Fuh-Kaw-Dee on Skar-Maurie, due to Steel's resistance to Normal and Skar-Maurie's Sturdy ability, it will survive and can freely Whirlwind Slaking out while it's affected by True-Ont.
Sturdy doesn't work like this in Gen 3. Skarmory could tank the hit, sure, but Sturdy didn't guarantee survival like the focus sash did until the 5th generation. Back in Gen 3 it's one of the worst abilities, blocking the OHKO moves that no one uses.
Mistake at 15:15 ? You get Steel Wing from Steven in granit cave, Winona gives you Aerial Ace
Thank you for noting that humans create the TASes. A lot of people think our work is done by bots, and while a lot of that may be true, we create those bots in the first place. Plus you don't need those bots to make a great TAS. They're for really complicated stuff (unfortunately gen 3 pokemon is one of them. I've seen the explanation on tikevin83's channel and I would dread having to deal with what they deal with)
4:36 Whats crazy is I’m sure we ALL felt that tapping b to speed things up would make you miss a bunch of times in a row, or miss catching a Pokémon, but back then it just felt crazy to think that. Turns out its TRUE
would love to see some more tas content
The music at 11:11 is just superb and always gave me the feels
14:56 fuhcawdee XD
Merry late Christmas Pulse ❤
Def gonna have to check out this TAS sometime later :o never expected a Taillow to be so strong in any circumstance
PChal fans (and many challenge runners) know the power of Taillow! In Emerald Kaizo, Taillow is a phenomenal encounter for a nuzlocke. Basically any pokemon with Guts is, as you can always burn or poison against a wild pokemon and just keep that status condition for hard battles.
The Yu-Gi-Oh Forbidden Memories music was a nice touch
GameFreak, I've never been so happy for your tomfoolery and hilarious mischief when designing Pokemon games. WHY WOULD YOU GIVE THE CHAMPION'S AGGRON, A POKEMON WITH 60 SP ATTACK, THUNDER?! I don't know why, but thanks for doing that. You made this run possible.
It's honestly worse than that: Steven's Aggron also has the moves dragon claw (which is special in gen3), solar beam, and earthquake. Basically, it has no STAB moves and 3 of it's 4 attacks are special for some weird reason
It's always felt like GameFreak intended there to be a Phys/Special Split, but either never had time to implement it, couldn't figure out how, or just put it off, as SO MANY early gen Pokemon just don't make sense without it.@@matthewkuscienko4616
@@matthewkuscienko4616I guess you could argue Solarbeam can smack Swampert, but... Two turns..
Not sure what they were cooking with Dragon Claw or Thunder.
Gotta appreciate the chuggaa reference on the mention of shiny
Pokemon speedrunners quit just before hitting a 1/8000 chance for the 500th time
Beating the elite 4 at the end while being level 50 is actually insane my best is one level 47 and it wasn’t even close to a speed run just nuzlock. I super sonic glitched it but with more time a dream eater slacking strat was discovered in my category and basically broke the nuzlock
i used to say fay cayd when i was younger
any fay cayd gang
This is perfection
Did you really use Chuggaaconroy finding his shiny Koffing for that clip?!?
5:36 chuggaaconroy reference??
Imagine being the human who manages to pull off a legit run where you dodge full para and proc quick claw while getting a crit during every single turn of every single battle of the entire run 🤯
I'm still not used to hearing fighting game music in videos that have nothing to do with them, still bangers tho😂
Fate/Extra Music always makes my heart happy
That scar morey was a jumpscare
Abandon your mortal form, embrace the TAS
Midkip: I'm the best Hoenn starter
Taillow: *no*
Omg you used Preliminary Duels from Yu-Gi-Oh the Forbidden Memories AND Resonance by HOME in the background music?? 😍
INSANE is the right word. Not clickbait!
That thumnail is really a Snowgrave approval.
Do it for Pilot
I'm a simple man. I see Taillow or Swellow, I click
What is the tool they're using to show the RNG state while they're playing? I'm guessing a script or plug-in for an emulator?
It's a Lua script that shows RNG!
@@PulseEffects thought as much. What's it called?
TBH I couldn’t tell what the new added clips were based off memory of the original video
Very cool video. I don't really play pokemon and I was still able to understand all of this super easily. P.S. what's the song that plays from 15:03 to the end?
Night Walker from Under night in-birth
@@AdachiTruth Tyty
Which Song is playing at 4:15 i love your content btw
Basically aeays doing a critical hit.
I'm an Australian not exactly winter where I'm at keep up the great work
this is how god plays pokemon...
9:26 i understand the guts boost and the stab boost, but what exactly is the status boost? Or is it just the crit?
Facade is pretty much guts in a move. It doubles its power when affected by status. Guts facade is absurd since the olden days cause of this
whats the song on the last battle?
I’ve had him ko raltz twice in normal play. Around 40 runs 😂 not the craziest luck but still. I remember wondering if he would have them at the gym spoiler they do
15:02 It’s Fuh-Kay-Duh
Get it right
It loses its meaning when you call "The Holy Grial" to an unmissable TM.
are there any points where the tas can’t rng manip? with the way rng works in rse, there have to be certain randomly-generated events that are mutually exclusive, especially when accounting for multiple randomized events. so maybe x and y could both happen in a seed, but there’s no seed where x, y, and z happen, you have to choose between x/z, y/z, x/y. if so, what useful rng’s sacrificed?
There are definitely some things that are impossible. For example, if you have a team of 6 zigzagoons, there is no rng value that yields 6 rare candies, and only 2 values that yield 5
Do i hear "forbidden memories" music in the background?
Watched your cheater vid and now this one, you have earned yourself a new sub! Keep it up :)
facade... is a normal type move..
Bro... I don't even want those assists.
Do somebody know the name of the song at 12:48 ?
Why did you say that picking May makes the rival fights easier? Both rivals use the exact same teams at the same points in the game?
They have a different order they send Pokemon out at.
its pilot 🐐
Yay
another soul has been sold to raid shadow legends
unlucky
Hi can you do the shiny gold sigma version 1.5.1 speed run? With hoeen region pokemon League
5:30 odds are so high? lol
Dude, whaaaaat
I knew that frame 5 was always the most optimal option
Does this have to do with glacia 0:26
Playing against a TAS would feel unfair
Wow I'm early
Didn't expect that XD
I could do the perfect run blindfolded without TAS
5:34 you mean lower :D
Is it even remotely possible for a human to do some of this rng minipulation? Like if they have the software that shows the rng rolls could they hit the buttons at the right times in order to get a few of the necessary crits? I wonder if anyone has tried, but I imagine itt would be a rather punishing learning curve and I don't know if the rng mapping software is even allowed on official speedruns...
Theoretically you could hit any of these rng manips but doing them in a row no break would be impossible not just in terms of human body ability to keep that consistency but memory. Like RBE does have a category that allows some rng manips run mainly for stats on Pokemon like mudkip or wingull but that still requires a good amount of training along with many runners a timer or sound cue to be even consistent at it
Is this a reupload?
Technically it is, but the original video was not 100% finished so I took it down and added some extra context and fixed the missing portions!
@@PulseEffects Looking foward to the new content. Thanks Pulse, happy holidays!
Can I blacklist any video that has a Raid sponsor somehow
TAS really has that pokemon streamer luck
Enjoyed the video, but it feels the pace was not smooth, leaving the impression the last bit was rushed. Still an awrsome video!
genuine critique: you change music a lot and it's kinda distracting
cool video tho :D
The odds are LOWER not higher
If its less likely to happen then the odds are lower
1/8574 is a smaller number than 1/8192
1/8574 = 0.0117% (rounded)
1/8192 = 0.0122% (rounded)
You are basically saying that 20% is more likely than 70%
Why does everyone keep getting this wrong? Are fractions just confusing?
"may is chosen to make the rival fights much easier" 4:48
What? You've shown two entirely different encounters on two different routes. This is just blatantly false.
Ah I see I put the wrong image on one of the Rivals. Information is still correct otherwise.
I almost gave up on watching this video cause there were simply too many unskippable adds
Of course it's a TAS.
I fucking hate Raid.
Why can no Pokémon UA-camr pronounce truant correctly?
Why does every streamer sell out to raid?
Its not perfect yet
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Google translate remove almost all of the "O" XD
"true-ahnt" wtf is this pronunciation
first pin me
Don't tell anyone in the Pokemon nuzlocke community. They can't handle not cheating to beat a Pokemon game. (Have to use rare candies, because they're to scared to grind)
UA-cam Commenters try not to shit your pants challenge (impossible ; they can't handle the fact that people like to have fun and grinding is boring and not challenging)
Really, raid shadow legends. Have some self respect
0:06 says 3% chance...and then shows 4% on screen.
unreal, man. unreal.
instantly already not liking this video, channel, or YOU.
dislike.
3.8% is not 4% lmao.
Is it even remotely possible for a human to do some of this rng minipulation? Like if they have the software that shows the rng rolls could they hit the buttons at the right times in order to get a few of the necessary crits? I wonder if anyone has tried, but I imagine itt would be a rather punishing learning curve and I don't know if the rng mapping software is even allowed on official speedruns...
My autistic ass was accidentally rng manipulating a shiny ralts on several of my runs when I was young because I just happened to perform everything exactly the same so yes
@@ultimaterecoil1136 Whoah really? If nobody has done it in a non-tas speed running context then *my* autistic ass might have a project ahead of me haha
@@dariascott2267 I’m not sure for speed running in particular. The most common context people rng manipulated in gen 3 was catching legends with proper competitive ivs natures that sort of thing for vgc and stuff. And it’s worth noting that rng manipulating something early game is way easier then rng manipulating something late in the game for speed run purposes since turning your game off and back on to reset rng would be a time loss so you’d need to keep on a exact line of play for an extended period of time. Me getting my shiny ralt squad is a lot easier then for example critting every attack vs Steven. You can maybe rng manip a perfect starter which would help I suppose
The main issue is holding RNG for long periods and finding seeds fast enough to be worthwhile.
Like a human COULD save and soft reset before every major fight to snag a turn 1 crit/miss/capture but the question is if it's faster. HGSS does (did? I can't remember if extended Manip is possible rta now) Manip it's Raikou encounter with a soft reset because that is worth, for example.
The TAS doesn't need to soft reset and doesn't miss RNG windows, so it's all upside.
@@Bladius_I think it was werster who once was running that, thought he'd screwed it up, got the roaming encounter music anyway... but it was Entei.