@@N0xtron I also got problems while having the carrier loaded. The logs unloaded from the back carrier after map change. It's also very difficult to pack after manual loading.
Notice how the cranes in Spintires and Mudrunner can both reliably pick up 3 and 4 logs securely. If you pick up two logs in Snowrunner, you've got maybe a 40% chance that it becomes unbalanced and drops one, and picking up more than 2 is impossible.
@@MultiPurposeReviewer tbh i havent even used logs in snowrunner bc i recently started a hard mode campaign and im slowly making my way to it tho i remember having fun logging in mudrunner
@@MultiPurposeReviewer the thing i liked about mudrunner the most was that it has old soviet trucks, my dad used to drive those too also since its based on Siberia
@@livonianmapping3221 I liked that the frames and trailers looked different in different regions. The Russian fuel cistern looked totally different than the NA fuel cistern. It was so cool.
Somehow logging wasnt that much fun for me in Snowrunner. Using the crane actually pissed me off, and I really cant tell why. Maybe because the crane feels weaker, maybe.
@@SD1ONE Yeah, in Snowrunner somehow the logs can spaze out and glitch trough the crane grabber and even though you can push out the arm, that doesnt mean that the crane will lift the log, so bad.
I just wish the grapple attachment was wider. Every time I pick up logs, they start tilting out of the grapple. Even if I grab them perfectly in the middle, I can pick them up balanced, but as soon as I swivel the crane, they become unbalanced.
Old ones are in Snwrun stock or dlc-Tayga 6455B and Spintires and real Kraz 255, Tuz Acteon and Gaz 66 and not same but something Khan Marshal and Uaz 469(Khan is bit custom-big wheels and ultra high suspension). And that isn all-some mod vehicles in Spintir are in Snowrun-Zidons Tatra 813 as mod and official dlc and 815 8x8(in Spintires it was Tatra 815 Armax by Garminbreak and Zidon but still, it was 8x8) and psssstt-stealed- old Phoenix model from Farm Sim 17 in Spintires is available as old Phoenix-mod and official new one. And this is little piece from all cake. So that
So the two previous games understood that real life trucks can have a log crane attached to the rear of a log frame. Why did Snowrunner conveniently forget that?
Because of the redesigned crane...In mudrunner the logs cranes have empty seat for operator because they don't want to make a seperate animated human operator on crane. In Snowrunner, the crane has this operator cabin with black glass so that you can't judge if operator is sitting inside that cabin or not (ofcourse nobody is sitting inside that cabin). However I think that they should've used old crane design for trucks as that crane was more practical.
I just bought the original Spintires and most DLCs last week for 10$ and I was so impressed by it. There are so many unique gameplay features not only for logging but also Chernobyl radiation, China Adventure and the others. I feel like it's better than Mudrunner and it's very nice to play the original
@@SD1ONE Sadly, Spintires seems to disappear from more and more platforms, because of some dispute between the publishers/developers. I got my game and DLC Steam keys from Humble (where it's no longer available) and Gamesplanet. I suspect, that there's only a limited number of activation keys left :(
@@dUFGoLZ That's very sad, I hope that dispute get resolve soon, luckily I've bought spintires and it's DLCs before it's dissapearance but I want to buy another copy for someone and It's not available anyware also I don't want to give my card details to shady websites where it's currently available.
@@SD1ONE I'd say Gamesplanet is legit, and still has Spintires and it's paid DLCs for sale. I think you can still get the free DLCs on Steam itself, though through a backdoor.
I miss having different designs of frames and trailers depending on which region you were in. I thought Mudrunner's Russian fuel cistern vs the American fuel cistern addons were really cool.
0:35 the mighty E-7429. This was (and I think its still is, even though its not in the Snowrunner) THE STRONGEST and best struck EVER! It could, as shown in the video, go just 1 TRIP to finish an entire lumber mill, + it almost NEVER STOPPED. Just the ultimate beast, nothing else.... 😏
I play on PC, so don't know about controller controls but for PC snowrunner controls are better than mudrunner....Crane mechanics however are better in mudrunner.
@@pastoryoda2789 Snowrunner honestly has much more content. So if you're looking for bang for your buck, Snowrunner is the way to go. They also offer a free upgrade to the PS5 version and allow you to carry your save over to PS5 as well.
Every game is unique, so logging will vary from game to game. But the add-ons are hella lazy in Snowrunner. Like, for example: the TS can, and should, be able to carry medium logs with a addon
All the games are amazing, I love all of them. But with snowrunner i feel that it has alotta attention to detail with new things introduced to the game, over its predecessors, but at the same time a bit sloppy on existing features in the earlier games, like mud sound, actually feeling like you are in a mud pit, like mud smashing into your wheel wells, the sounds of a gravely road, in snow runner it's like oh I've slowed down, must be mud. I miss the immersion of hearing the sounds that made the wilderness feel more alive, although in that same breath, i love snowrunner because not every job is fking logzz
They are targeting the casual players, the simple people that just drive a truck around, can't handle complex tasks (or even want such things at all). mainstream everything for the console people to buy into the game
@@tommyb6611 That is such a bullshit claim, you do realize that Snowrunner was not the first game in the series to be released on console right? Not to mention the other types of trailers added to the game which are way more difficult to transport than any log could ever be.
@@iwontdieofdeath if you are just an ignorant , it's better to just shut up. You have no idea of the behind the scenes of this whole game. Mudrunner is Spintires rehashed but attacking the console crowds. But the game was too complicated for the simple people of the console world that just want "click-done" everything, so Snowrunner made everything simpler for them. No more manual throttling to get out of sticky situations, no more extensive logging crane (initially). But after many cries of the advanced players, they introduced this feature as well plus added new things requested by them (like the industry production using raw materials). Your personal beliefs are irrelevant to the facts and situation that happened.
Nice comparation Man! Since it's a new game, I won't doubt that logging on snow runner will get lots of changes during it's time, but I agree with you that we need more variety. Logging add-ons and carts for different countries trucks would be nice because c'mon, everyone know that some trucks are russian even with skin changes. And also, foldable long log carts would be very good to see since this time even american trucks like P16 have those (btw, P16 would be the ONLY truck allowed to carry long logs IRL, since it's the only one with log shield behind the cabin and the fact that long log carts don't have shield modeled) The removal of load point mechanic seems actually more realistic, since IRL if you would need long logs for a construction and someone delivers you the points quantity of how much you wanted but as medium logs, you can't simply glue 2 logs together anymore.
Yeah, Snowrunner will keep getting new updates throughout this year, so we can expect a lot of addons, trailers, etc stuff in game. I wish they add something like K-700 or Skidder which are like proper logging machines.
I doubt that Snowrunner will improve in simulation perspective. It is a more arcadey game than Spintires and even Mudrunner. It is beautiful and have more diverse missions and... thats it.
Shame the way all the logs are the same width and aren’t overpacked, looking at new videos of the pacific p16 there are some of the normal width logs and some wider ones then 1 or (in rare cases) 2 massive logs. They are always stacked at least 1 and a half times the height of the log carrier it’s self.
Is it possible to do an every main menu screen comparison snowrunner video? Cuz the music and background changes every update, like last couple months was Wisconsin now its the new Russian winter map
Spintires was so much better. There was no roads and you had to find them yourself, mud was more realistic. And even tho game was "shorter", I often just picked the cargo and decided to cruise around (maybe even climb into the vulcan)
Makes complete sense that Spintires and Mudrunner had more things for logging since that's all you could really do in those games cargo wise. But it would be nice to see that foldable long log carrier again in SnowRunner. As far as I know some mod had it, but it was experimental.
I tried those mods but the they're super buggy to a point that you can't even detach them if glitch occur, your only option is to delete them through delete trailer option
I feel Snowrunner is more about licensed vehicles and vehicle quantity - rather than customizability. They made things less unique in order to fit it all under one hat.
I honestly couldn't never tell between the two medium log trailers and short log trailers they both look the same honestly from the looks of them and that goes for the logging add on's for trucks
I remember there was one contract where you had to deliver 3 loads of long logs to another region of the map that required 2 gateways to go through. That was the most infuriating contract I ever took because it basically meant 3 round trips through 2 gateways and 2 whole maps each because no matter how many logs you loaded it was always considered "one load."
If you take a truck with a crane attachment and a long sideboard trailer you can fit in 4-5 long log units (3 logs = 1 long log unit when packed onto the correct trailer ) and along the way stop by a garage, winch a truck and trailer with the correct equipment to put long logs. You should be able to do it in 1 trip then.
@@matchesburn You can tow vehicles through gateways (with or without trailers). You will just have to drive forward a bit so the ghosting effect disappears and then all you have to do is re-winch the vehicle and truck on ahead.
Sometimes I go with the logs unpacked, I cargo manually 6 logs for example and in the delivery area I put 3 logs in the ground, then pack the cargo and deliver It and then I take the cargo of the ground and repeat the process.
Snow runner really is lacking detail in a lot of ways. It feels like they went quantity over quality with trucks, cargo and maps. In alot of ways I enjoyed mudrunner more.
Yup, On that I can agree, they went for quatity over quality and this issue is common to most new games specially in racing genre forza horizon for example has now tons of cars but variety like engine sound, etc is not as much detailed as it was before.
Good video, but why MudRunner looks like Spintires 2014? Because I remember on it-I played it for long but always logs need to pack 3 ones and there was 3 sizes of logs. But I didnt have any dlc because I stopped play it long before 1st dlc and moved to Farm Sim 17 or 15, now I dont know. But Spintires looks like MudRunner. I never seen old Spintires with that graphic. But I can remember on first of first official demo. Yeah, what a beautiful time with Scania R720 V8 semi and Fire brigade Tatra T815 6x6. But dakar "MAD" Kamaz was best ;)
I don’t understood why snowrunner trucks cannot carry medim logs without a trailer. Is really anoying take 1 pile of medium logs and leave half truck empty.
Mate Muddrunner & Snowrunner aren't old game's Spintire's is the oldest only dating back as far as 2014 They are Russian the Old Country as it's known hence has the old look & most truck's are from the 80's more or less not Counting Snowrunner Mid 2020 These where one of the most sold game's at the time of their launch something know one ever productid I got Mudrunner at launch expected to see a max of not even 10 Lobby's I couldn't even find the end of the list
The older systems were pretty complex so I don't hate the switch from load points to the size of logs. But the add ons is my problem, just not enough variety, also American trucks kinda pointless
I'll remind concept of Long log semitrailer (Shalanda this is what its name was in my game) in Spintires Edit: this trailer was in one version (I don't remember what this version was) and has been deleted quickly (because of the game mechanics which blocked loading of this trailer when it wasn't straight with the Truck. This trailer was just garage trailer without tent and had extended Borts
Great vid and i also think that snowrunner has lost his log heritage from mudrunner and spintires with the diversity of trucks in snowrunner making different logging add on would have been better but apart that they keep making more maps, moreand more complicated with more tasks more cargos and trucks like the tatras which in my opinion doesn't reflect the true colors of tatras offroaders
Yeah, I don't really get why they created a modular add-on system and hardly ever create more add-ons? Would love to have seen wheels+rims DLC packs and a wrecker body or just cosmetically different sideboards/fuel tanks. Especially because some add-ons and wheels look fucking weird on Russian trucks as they are clearly meant to be American.
It's funny that all the logs and spintires and mudrunner have realistic weight to them but snowrunner does not I actually have to mod the weight in to make it more realistic and challenging
The difference between medium and short logs in SnowRunner is nonexistant Why do I need a trailer for a thing that isn't any larger than what I can carry on the truck itself
If you're talking about snowrunner then you can't carry logs on beds as beds are only for loading cargo like bricks, pipes, wooden planks, etc.....To load logs you need to install logging addons like log carriage for short logs, log trailer for medium logs and log carrier front + rear for long logs.
@@SD1ONE I meant the short logg addon.. At forst I tougt it was for medium logs but then I did some reaser and found out it was only for short logs 😂 btw love your videos
I really miss the log crane/loader in Mudrunner was it much more easier and simpler to load logs and rearrange them while Snowrunner's log crane/loader is way too complicated and frustrating to use. I know that many others will agree with me on this issue.
Logging in all their games has always annoyed me with how much it misses. Log cranes in the US look most like the US Mudrunner style, but function completely different. We don't grab the middle, we grab near one end and catch the very end on a horn sticking off the boom and lift it that way. It is easy and quick and allows a shorter and lighter crane to be used and still move it anywhere. Short and medium logs are often stacked on the same trailer. A triple bunk semi trailer can load 2 sets of shorts, or 2 sets of medium, or 1 set of long, to use game terms. The long log dolly is telescopic and be made quite short for medium sizes, or extremely long for more than 3x the length of what the game uses. The truck I'm working with now can load a bunk or semi trailer, has a log crane on it as well. We have another driver in the company that owns his own setup, and packs his dolly (folds) onto the back of his truck when not in use. Hopefully it is just limitations in the game engine for why they did it how they have, but operating a real loader is much easier than the game version. And real ones can still grab the middle so it can be used both ways.
just reminding... Snowrunner has only 4 types of log loads cause has bunch of other types of cargo... Spintires/Mudrunner are doing only logging, nothing else, hence more types of logs...
They really dropped the ball in SnowRunner as far as logging is concerned. I was so excited tfor its comeback after my experience with MudRunner but now it's pretty much one of my least favorite thing to do. The fact that they have made sure we would take forever to complete the logging tasks is just frustrating. Cross map deliveries, awkward and very tippy crane that takes up all the space on the frame, no medium log racks except for 1 vehicle, no short log trailers. WTH!???? Seriously, it's hard not to think it was done on purpose when the whole concept of logging in SnowRunner is pretty much a step back in evolution when everything else got improved.
@@SD1ONE Yeah you are right about that. They have usually responded very efficiently to the players request in the past so..... Hopefully the fact that a lot of people have mentioned that they really don't like it, and things like your video that demonstrate very well that the SnowRunner version of logging is borderline "lazy" will show them that this needs correcting, but for the people who have completely finished the game and don't have time to replay it several times, it's a little too late to add the proper addons and go back to a logical and enjoyable system.
Since a few weeks, there is medium log carrier available with most of medium and heavy trucks It must’ve come with an update, it didn’t exist when I bought the game few months before I play on PS4
We need foldable long log carts again!
Ural and Kraz by Kot76RSK got you covered ;) They are just little buggy when crossing between map regions.
@@1973honza Just unfold them everytime you quit the game or move to another map, else it bugs around yep
@@N0xtron I also got problems while having the carrier loaded. The logs unloaded from the back carrier after map change. It's also very difficult to pack after manual loading.
if my computer could handle snowrunner i would agree but my computer cant even handle mudrunner
Notice how the cranes in Spintires and Mudrunner can both reliably pick up 3 and 4 logs securely. If you pick up two logs in Snowrunner, you've got maybe a 40% chance that it becomes unbalanced and drops one, and picking up more than 2 is impossible.
True but logging got added in snowrunner fairly recently at least id hope that they expand the logging in snowrunner
@@livonianmapping3221 I HOPE so. There's a number of improvements that need to happen.
@@MultiPurposeReviewer tbh i havent even used logs in snowrunner bc i recently started a hard mode campaign and im slowly making my way to it tho i remember having fun logging in mudrunner
@@MultiPurposeReviewer the thing i liked about mudrunner the most was that it has old soviet trucks, my dad used to drive those too also since its based on Siberia
@@livonianmapping3221 I liked that the frames and trailers looked different in different regions. The Russian fuel cistern looked totally different than the NA fuel cistern. It was so cool.
Somehow logging wasnt that much fun for me in Snowrunner. Using the crane actually pissed me off, and I really cant tell why. Maybe because the crane feels weaker, maybe.
yeah..crane in spintires works best in my opinion...controls are weird but crane mechanics are good
@@SD1ONE
Yeah, in Snowrunner somehow the logs can spaze out and glitch trough the crane grabber and even though you can push out the arm, that doesnt mean that the crane will lift the log, so bad.
I just wish the grapple attachment was wider. Every time I pick up logs, they start tilting out of the grapple. Even if I grab them perfectly in the middle, I can pick them up balanced, but as soon as I swivel the crane, they become unbalanced.
@@MultiPurposeReviewer
That's one big problem, yes. When unbalanced, the log can even get vertical so no way for you to put it in the trailer.
heh that CAT fork lift in SR is a pain in a*s, those controls came straight from hell
I’d take the trucks from SpinTires, the transmission physics from MudRunner and the maps from SnowRunner
SnowRunner has made lots of improvements but crippled things like the logs or really old vehicle support, not many MudRunner/Spintires vehicles here
Old ones are in Snwrun stock or dlc-Tayga 6455B and Spintires and real Kraz 255, Tuz Acteon and Gaz 66 and not same but something Khan Marshal and Uaz 469(Khan is bit custom-big wheels and ultra high suspension). And that isn all-some mod vehicles in Spintir are in Snowrun-Zidons Tatra 813 as mod and official dlc and 815 8x8(in Spintires it was Tatra 815 Armax by Garminbreak and Zidon but still, it was 8x8) and psssstt-stealed- old Phoenix model from Farm Sim 17 in Spintires is available as old Phoenix-mod and official new one. And this is little piece from all cake. So that
So the two previous games understood that real life trucks can have a log crane attached to the rear of a log frame. Why did Snowrunner conveniently forget that?
Because of the redesigned crane...In mudrunner the logs cranes have empty seat for operator because they don't want to make a seperate animated human operator on crane. In Snowrunner, the crane has this operator cabin with black glass so that you can't judge if operator is sitting inside that cabin or not (ofcourse nobody is sitting inside that cabin). However I think that they should've used old crane design for trucks as that crane was more practical.
I just bought the original Spintires and most DLCs last week for 10$ and I was so impressed by it. There are so many unique gameplay features not only for logging but also Chernobyl radiation, China Adventure and the others. I feel like it's better than Mudrunner and it's very nice to play the original
where did you get it, It's taken down from steam and It was never available on epic.
@@SD1ONE I bought some Steam keys on MMOGA and it works perfectly :D
@@SD1ONE Sadly, Spintires seems to disappear from more and more platforms, because of some dispute between the publishers/developers.
I got my game and DLC Steam keys from Humble (where it's no longer available) and Gamesplanet.
I suspect, that there's only a limited number of activation keys left :(
@@dUFGoLZ That's very sad, I hope that dispute get resolve soon, luckily I've bought spintires and it's DLCs before it's dissapearance but I want to buy another copy for someone and It's not available anyware also I don't want to give my card details to shady websites where it's currently available.
@@SD1ONE I'd say Gamesplanet is legit, and still has Spintires and it's paid DLCs for sale. I think you can still get the free DLCs on Steam itself, though through a backdoor.
I miss having different designs of frames and trailers depending on which region you were in. I thought Mudrunner's Russian fuel cistern vs the American fuel cistern addons were really cool.
9:17 *note!*
Spintires had a K-700 log "Claw" too but they removed the K-700
0:35 the mighty E-7429. This was (and I think its still is, even though its not in the Snowrunner) THE STRONGEST and best struck EVER! It could, as shown in the video, go just 1 TRIP to finish an entire lumber mill, + it almost NEVER STOPPED. Just the ultimate beast, nothing else.... 😏
00:04 the russian text on the windshield means: "eat some more of these soft French rolls and have some tea"
I don't know russian, so I would belive anything you say ;)
@@SD1ONE me neither, i used google translate ;)
As a Russian, I can say that it's right translation
That's actually a "font test" sentence for the russian. It includes all letters from the alphabet
I haven't played the original Spintires, but I have played Mudrunner and the log crane controls are far superior to the controls in Snowrunner.
I play on PC, so don't know about controller controls but for PC snowrunner controls are better than mudrunner....Crane mechanics however are better in mudrunner.
@@SD1ONE I play on PS4. Guess I forgot to mention that.
@@splitsecondmagician mee to i playin ps 4 mudrunner i think mudrunner best
@@splitsecondmagiciani have a PS4 should i get mudrunner or snowrunner
@@pastoryoda2789 Snowrunner honestly has much more content. So if you're looking for bang for your buck, Snowrunner is the way to go. They also offer a free upgrade to the PS5 version and allow you to carry your save over to PS5 as well.
So in short Snowrunner removes the overall concept of logging from its predecessors
Spintires still looks/feels the best, wtf
Spintires: Original hardcore
Mudrunner: Improved, easy to play
Snowrunner: *money*
The worst thing about logging in Snowrunner is that you can't use medium logs addon in big trucks as the Azov 73210 or Paystar TS.
Every game is unique, so logging will vary from game to game. But the add-ons are hella lazy in Snowrunner. Like, for example: the TS can, and should, be able to carry medium logs with a addon
Spintires has better mud and wheel physics than snowrunner ☹️ The same was with mudrunner while not patched ☹️
All the games are amazing, I love all of them. But with snowrunner i feel that it has alotta attention to detail with new things introduced to the game, over its predecessors, but at the same time a bit sloppy on existing features in the earlier games, like mud sound, actually feeling like you are in a mud pit, like mud smashing into your wheel wells, the sounds of a gravely road, in snow runner it's like oh I've slowed down, must be mud. I miss the immersion of hearing the sounds that made the wilderness feel more alive, although in that same breath, i love snowrunner because not every job is fking logzz
Nobody:
Snowrunner: Log is *L O G*
T R U K I S T R U K
What about Royal BM17 vs Paystar? Could be interesting
Once again proving snowrunner lost variation when it expanded itself
Well spintires and mudrunner are primary based on logging so there of course going to be better in this department.
They are targeting the casual players, the simple people that just drive a truck around, can't handle complex tasks (or even want such things at all).
mainstream everything for the console people to buy into the game
@@tommyb6611 That is such a bullshit claim, you do realize that Snowrunner was not the first game in the series to be released on console right? Not to mention the other types of trailers added to the game which are way more difficult to transport than any log could ever be.
@@iwontdieofdeath if you are just an ignorant , it's better to just shut up.
You have no idea of the behind the scenes of this whole game.
Mudrunner is Spintires rehashed but attacking the console crowds.
But the game was too complicated for the simple people of the console world that just want "click-done" everything, so Snowrunner made everything simpler for them.
No more manual throttling to get out of sticky situations, no more extensive logging crane (initially).
But after many cries of the advanced players, they introduced this feature as well plus added new things requested by them (like the industry production using raw materials).
Your personal beliefs are irrelevant to the facts and situation that happened.
@@tommyb6611 Man i bet you and you pedantic superiority complex are fun at parties
Amazing comparison, I prefer the old logging from mudrunner
btw at 11:46 you put long logs instead of short logs
Nice comparation Man!
Since it's a new game, I won't doubt that logging on snow runner will get lots of changes during it's time, but I agree with you that we need more variety. Logging add-ons and carts for different countries trucks would be nice because c'mon, everyone know that some trucks are russian even with skin changes. And also, foldable long log carts would be very good to see since this time even american trucks like P16 have those (btw, P16 would be the ONLY truck allowed to carry long logs IRL, since it's the only one with log shield behind the cabin and the fact that long log carts don't have shield modeled)
The removal of load point mechanic seems actually more realistic, since IRL if you would need long logs for a construction and someone delivers you the points quantity of how much you wanted but as medium logs, you can't simply glue 2 logs together anymore.
Yeah, Snowrunner will keep getting new updates throughout this year, so we can expect a lot of addons, trailers, etc stuff in game. I wish they add something like K-700 or Skidder which are like proper logging machines.
@@SD1ONE looking forward to that too, scavenging for logs inside a forest would be amazing to add while also resurrecting the old tractor category
I doubt that Snowrunner will improve in simulation perspective. It is a more arcadey game than Spintires and even Mudrunner. It is beautiful and have more diverse missions and... thats it.
I mean it's new on Steam and Switch.
It's already a year old on PS4, XBOX and Epic.
Heck we had to wait 3/4 of a year just to get logging at all.
Shame the way all the logs are the same width and aren’t overpacked, looking at new videos of the pacific p16 there are some of the normal width logs and some wider ones then 1 or (in rare cases) 2 massive logs. They are always stacked at least 1 and a half times the height of the log carrier it’s self.
Is it possible to do an every main menu screen comparison snowrunner video?
Cuz the music and background changes every update, like last couple months was Wisconsin now its the new Russian winter map
I love playing SnowRunner while I wait for the workers to load the logs on my truck
Lmaooooo
Spintires was so much better. There was no roads and you had to find them yourself, mud was more realistic. And even tho game was "shorter", I often just picked the cargo and decided to cruise around (maybe even climb into the vulcan)
the pros are playing spintires C-255 with long logs, thats something that i miss in combination with the maps in snowrunner
This video brings back memories
Makes complete sense that Spintires and Mudrunner had more things for logging since that's all you could really do in those games cargo wise. But it would be nice to see that foldable long log carrier again in SnowRunner. As far as I know some mod had it, but it was experimental.
I tried those mods but the they're super buggy to a point that you can't even detach them if glitch occur, your only option is to delete them through delete trailer option
I feel Snowrunner is more about licensed vehicles and vehicle quantity - rather than customizability. They made things less unique in order to fit it all under one hat.
Hey man nice video!
I love this game
I think Saber decided to make things much more simple in snow runner.
Craning was bearable in Snowrunner
Mudrunner craning gave me Vietnam flashbacks of Farming Simulator 15, it was that bad.
I honestly couldn't never tell between the two medium log trailers and short log trailers they both look the same honestly from the looks of them and that goes for the logging add on's for trucks
I hope one of the next DLC will enrich logging in snowrunner, it was so much better in the previous game!
I remember there was one contract where you had to deliver 3 loads of long logs to another region of the map that required 2 gateways to go through. That was the most infuriating contract I ever took because it basically meant 3 round trips through 2 gateways and 2 whole maps each because no matter how many logs you loaded it was always considered "one load."
If you take a truck with a crane attachment and a long sideboard trailer you can fit in 4-5 long log units (3 logs = 1 long log unit when packed onto the correct trailer ) and along the way stop by a garage, winch a truck and trailer with the correct equipment to put long logs. You should be able to do it in 1 trip then.
@@DuckBanter
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you couldn't carry winched vehicles and trailers through a gateway.
@@matchesburn You can tow vehicles through gateways (with or without trailers). You will just have to drive forward a bit so the ghosting effect disappears and then all you have to do is re-winch the vehicle and truck on ahead.
Sometimes I go with the logs unpacked, I cargo manually 6 logs for example and in the delivery area I put 3 logs in the ground, then pack the cargo and deliver It and then I take the cargo of the ground and repeat the process.
I also miss Russian and US specific addons and trailers. When there's a next game, I hope that they add it.
What the name of the game would be? Asphalt☆Runner?
I 100% prefer the old style of logging.
Starter:spintires
Successor of spintires:mudrunner
Successor of mudrunner:snowrunner
I think Snowrunner should use the short logs addon as a medium one and load short logs as a 2-slot flatbed/sideboard cargo.
Which version of spintires do u have ?
Hey I see Bob in Spintires :D
yeah, it's where he was born
Snow runner really is lacking detail in a lot of ways. It feels like they went quantity over quality with trucks, cargo and maps. In alot of ways I enjoyed mudrunner more.
Yup, On that I can agree, they went for quatity over quality and this issue is common to most new games specially in racing genre forza horizon for example has now tons of cars but variety like engine sound, etc is not as much detailed as it was before.
@@SD1ONE yeh I think it often occurs when a big studio takes over a game.
Keep it short: SnowRunner be like "it's not always about logging, shpiderman" 😅
I have to say, Vanilla Snowrunner logging is very bare bones, but modders have picked up A LOT of the slack.
Чому ти у spin tires додавав моди а для mudruner не додавав?
As annoying the barriers were i loved having to expiriment with where i can drive along with a load
11:46 - you mean short logs?
I think Russians will comprehend - Lenin sole held a log on his shoulder, just like Rembo!..
Since when do they fold up in Spintires and Mudrunner? ( The long log cart one ). Because i didn't know this.
from the very start or atleast when I start playing it in 2015.
What REALLY is missing is the multiple winch points, and that so many classic soviet trucks got left behind as the games moved on 😢
Whats the maps you used in the spintires clips?
love your vids broo frome ph🇵🇭
The reason snow runner has the least log stuff is because there is so many other kinds of cargo
Snowrunner atm is awesome! New update dropped...
Mudrunner HD with Snowrunner upgrade system. Gold.
Wait at 11:45 the short logs why long logs?
It’s 2024 now and it’s still Spintires ❤
Good video, but why MudRunner looks like Spintires 2014? Because I remember on it-I played it for long but always logs need to pack 3 ones and there was 3 sizes of logs. But I didnt have any dlc because I stopped play it long before 1st dlc and moved to Farm Sim 17 or 15, now I dont know. But Spintires looks like MudRunner. I never seen old Spintires with that graphic. But I can remember on first of first official demo. Yeah, what a beautiful time with Scania R720 V8 semi and Fire brigade Tatra T815 6x6. But dakar "MAD" Kamaz was best ;)
Thx mate, now that I know why the frame add-on in snowrunner cannot put medium loads
I don’t understood why snowrunner trucks cannot carry medim logs without a trailer. Is really anoying take 1 pile of medium logs and leave half truck empty.
specially when some trucks are long enough to carry them on body
Mistake @ 11:45
expected: short logs - 6 sizes
actually: long logs - 6 sizes
Wow I didn't know this stuff about the old games cos I never played them.
Mate Muddrunner & Snowrunner aren't old game's Spintire's is the oldest only dating back as far as 2014
They are Russian the Old Country as it's known hence has the old look
& most truck's are from the 80's more or less not Counting Snowrunner Mid 2020
These where one of the most sold game's at the time of their launch
something know one ever productid I got Mudrunner at launch expected to see a max of not even 10 Lobby's I couldn't even find the end of the list
actually spintires with it's recent updates is kinda newer than mudrunner..but yeah technically it's oldest, original concept
Spintires is again the best
What is the difference between spintires and mud runner?
Mudrunner is the best.
The older systems were pretty complex so I don't hate the switch from load points to the size of logs. But the add ons is my problem, just not enough variety, also American trucks kinda pointless
How dare you insult our American Trucks? Apologize right now 👇
@@pastoryoda2789 literally I don't think a single one performs amazing. They are ok. Saddening as they look fantastic but they just don't perform
Would you play Spintires on Steam in 2021? I like the look of Spintires and ability to changes, but I don't know how it is supported now?
I'll remind concept of Long log semitrailer (Shalanda this is what its name was in my game) in Spintires
Edit: this trailer was in one version (I don't remember what this version was) and has been deleted quickly (because of the game mechanics which blocked loading of this trailer when it wasn't straight with the Truck. This trailer was just garage trailer without tent and had extended Borts
Can you make a vid of the best vehicles in each class with the best LAP TIMES in gta 5
Great vid and i also think that snowrunner has lost his log heritage from mudrunner and spintires with the diversity of trucks in snowrunner making different logging add on would have been better but apart that they keep making more maps, moreand more complicated with more tasks more cargos and trucks like the tatras which in my opinion doesn't reflect the true colors of tatras offroaders
Developers in snowrunner are lazy to create different add-ons😴
Yeah, I don't really get why they created a modular add-on system and hardly ever create more add-ons? Would love to have seen wheels+rims DLC packs and a wrecker body or just cosmetically different sideboards/fuel tanks. Especially because some add-ons and wheels look fucking weird on Russian trucks as they are clearly meant to be American.
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Spintires: Lower quality color
Mudrunner: Medium quality grey
Snowrunner: High quality color
Really funny reading all the comments and seeing everyone has totally different views of every game
I need more starter maps cause i already got all the maps and trucks
It's funny that all the logs and spintires and mudrunner have realistic weight to them but snowrunner does not I actually have to mod the weight in to make it more realistic and challenging
The difference between medium and short logs in SnowRunner is nonexistant
Why do I need a trailer for a thing that isn't any larger than what I can carry on the truck itself
ok nice, but why do all trucks look ancient? 😮
Medium log options needed!
Hey sd1one make a video about smallest to biggest vehicles in gta 5
Who else hauled 18 logs to the destination in Spintires without packing?
Super video!
how can you carry logs on your trucks bed? I see the addon but no option to load logs on to it.
If you're talking about snowrunner then you can't carry logs on beds as beds are only for loading cargo like bricks, pipes, wooden planks, etc.....To load logs you need to install logging addons like log carriage for short logs, log trailer for medium logs and log carrier front + rear for long logs.
@@SD1ONE I meant the short logg addon.. At forst I tougt it was for medium logs but then I did some reaser and found out it was only for short logs 😂 btw love your videos
I really miss the log crane/loader in Mudrunner was it much more easier and simpler to load logs and rearrange them while Snowrunner's log crane/loader is way too complicated and frustrating to use.
I know that many others will agree with me on this issue.
I can agree to thag
@@AJsBusVideos Thank you!
Logging in all their games has always annoyed me with how much it misses.
Log cranes in the US look most like the US Mudrunner style, but function completely different. We don't grab the middle, we grab near one end and catch the very end on a horn sticking off the boom and lift it that way. It is easy and quick and allows a shorter and lighter crane to be used and still move it anywhere.
Short and medium logs are often stacked on the same trailer. A triple bunk semi trailer can load 2 sets of shorts, or 2 sets of medium, or 1 set of long, to use game terms.
The long log dolly is telescopic and be made quite short for medium sizes, or extremely long for more than 3x the length of what the game uses.
The truck I'm working with now can load a bunk or semi trailer, has a log crane on it as well. We have another driver in the company that owns his own setup, and packs his dolly (folds) onto the back of his truck when not in use.
Hopefully it is just limitations in the game engine for why they did it how they have, but operating a real loader is much easier than the game version. And real ones can still grab the middle so it can be used both ways.
SPINTIRES😍
just reminding... Snowrunner has only 4 types of log loads cause has bunch of other types of cargo... Spintires/Mudrunner are doing only logging, nothing else, hence more types of logs...
Spimtires in my opinion it's the best 👍
Nice video
They really dropped the ball in SnowRunner as far as logging is concerned. I was so excited tfor its comeback after my experience with MudRunner but now it's pretty much one of my least favorite thing to do. The fact that they have made sure we would take forever to complete the logging tasks is just frustrating. Cross map deliveries, awkward and very tippy crane that takes up all the space on the frame, no medium log racks except for 1 vehicle, no short log trailers. WTH!???? Seriously, it's hard not to think it was done on purpose when the whole concept of logging in SnowRunner is pretty much a step back in evolution when everything else got improved.
I still have hope for snowrunner, it's still a new game and I belive they'll add more logging addons, trailers, etc in future.
@@SD1ONE Yeah you are right about that. They have usually responded very efficiently to the players request in the past so..... Hopefully the fact that a lot of people have mentioned that they really don't like it, and things like your video that demonstrate very well that the SnowRunner version of logging is borderline "lazy" will show them that this needs correcting, but for the people who have completely finished the game and don't have time to replay it several times, it's a little too late to add the proper addons and go back to a logical and enjoyable system.
11:45 u mean short ? 😮
9:19 - work with LKT mod as well :-)
Need Finland produced hardware. They know how to forest!
Well in snowrunner cant carry 2 medium log in trucks only catterpilar truck and trailer, thats why!!?
It's so annoying in SnowRunner that you have to have a trailer for medium logs.
So when i have medium log mission i have to use the big CAT
Since a few weeks, there is medium log carrier available with most of medium and heavy trucks
It must’ve come with an update, it didn’t exist when I bought the game few months before
I play on PS4
Hail from Germany, my friend
Mudrunner is the best