9 Things Mudrunner did better than Snowrunner

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  • Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
  • In this video we'll show you 9 things that Mudrunner did better than Snowrunner. We compared both Spintires Mudrunner vs Snowrunner to find out Why Mudrunner is better than Snowrunner (In some areas).
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  • @UberGrunk
    @UberGrunk 3 роки тому +1112

    Snowrunner has an entire category reserved for troll vehicles, it's called "Highway trucks" :P

    • @beezyj3227
      @beezyj3227 3 роки тому +115

      Literally WORTHLESS. Highway trucks or any vehicle with highway tires are completely utterly garbage unless you're roll playing and want to switch trucks and loads constantly. (Which I've done). Use a highway vehicle to tow an offroad vehicle on a semi bed which is carrying the load, then offload the offroad vehicle onto the mud, never touching the main road. Besides playing around like that they have no real use.

    • @CeoOfTheBOIS
      @CeoOfTheBOIS 3 роки тому +45

      @@beezyj3227 The GMC is good offroad with its offroad upgrades and suspension upgrades. If say it's good in the category of highway trucks.

    • @tuongcat5728
      @tuongcat5728 2 роки тому +2

      Dude that burn

    • @daylineli
      @daylineli 2 роки тому +4

      And stock DON 71

    • @giovannifoulmouth7205
      @giovannifoulmouth7205 2 роки тому +2

      @@daylineli and stock Tuz 166 which the most useless vehicle in the game

  • @kurtsteiner7310
    @kurtsteiner7310 3 роки тому +1925

    Mudrunner was a lot better in certain things, it felt like a successor to the original Spintires. Snowrunner is more like a whole new thing.

    • @thefusionshark
      @thefusionshark 3 роки тому +113

      Agreed, in my mind mudrunner had the ideas but couldn’t carry them out, snowrunner has ideas but not the same but carried them out, if snowrunner would’ve kept some of the ideas that mudrunner did it would be better

    • @Airsoft_Ghost1
      @Airsoft_Ghost1 3 роки тому +25

      Is that not the point tho, making a new game, trying to make it better?

    • @armoredp
      @armoredp 3 роки тому +61

      @@Airsoft_Ghost1 Yes but not removing things that were already good.

    • @Airsoft_Ghost1
      @Airsoft_Ghost1 3 роки тому +16

      armoredp what was already good? Logging 24/7?

    • @armoredp
      @armoredp 3 роки тому +42

      @@Airsoft_Ghost1 I don't think you quite understand what "things that were already good" means, it does not mean personally cherry picking the one clear fault of Mudrunner. But anyway; Mud physics were much better than in Snowrunner, vehicle models looked much better and more realistic, better steering and all the points made in his video.

  • @KamisKapi
    @KamisKapi 3 роки тому +424

    K 700 whistle is so nostalgic

    • @Dirkietje8
      @Dirkietje8 3 роки тому +10

      Download the mod, its pretty much the same as in Mudrunner, just missing the useful claw attachment.

    • @SD1ONE
      @SD1ONE  3 роки тому +17

      @@Dirkietje8 Where is this mod...I searched it on mod.io but it's not there or maybe it's different name...love the K-700 and it's whistling engine

    • @Dirkietje8
      @Dirkietje8 3 роки тому +6

      @@SD1ONE i found it by searching 'K-700', it's by Silent_Laconic. 28th of May it was uploaded.

    • @devioussounds
      @devioussounds 3 роки тому +2

      Are yard truck at work does the same sound and it always reminds me of that lol

  • @discoverymoi
    @discoverymoi 3 роки тому +746

    Man your opinion is so spot on, I also hate that we don’t have the option to pull winch in SnowRunner to save fuel.

    • @SD1ONE
      @SD1ONE  3 роки тому +101

      That is one feature I miss a lot in snowrunner...specially while recovering a flipped truck, It's engine gets ON making it harder to flip back.

    • @katherinecurtis1747
      @katherinecurtis1747 3 роки тому +9

      Brady Prince Wait, mudrunner had cruise control?

    • @ShadowDragon246
      @ShadowDragon246 3 роки тому +7

      you'll be able to load vehicles onto a trailer and truck them around when phase 2 goes live besides the PTS

    • @tacothe13th30
      @tacothe13th30 3 роки тому +6

      @@katherinecurtis1747 Yeah (On Xbox or with an Xbox controller at least, i think) If you held right stick instead of just tapping it and then just stuck in in a gear (like low, auto, etc) you wouldn't have to touch the accelerator to get the truck going it would just go. But you wouldn't be able to move the camera.

    • @stumpusMaximus
      @stumpusMaximus 3 роки тому +1

      You do. You have automatic winches that run on battery now with certain vehicles . You also have a crane now that can lift entire trucks and transport any vehicle you can lift and put on a bed

  • @teleplayer605
    @teleplayer605 3 роки тому +105

    I liked the atmosphere better in Mudrunner... The maps felt more remote and empty, and I liked the misty weather. Also, I wish there were more old, Soviet army trucks in Snowrunner.

    • @MrFusion
      @MrFusion Рік тому +19

      I like both styles. I don't mind the more warm and lively vibe in Snowrunner, but Mudrunner definitely nails that "you are in the middle of fucking nowhere" vibe.

    • @Cavitt
      @Cavitt Рік тому +18

      @@MrFusion exactly lol. The MudRunner vibe is serene, like you’re 100 miles from ANYBODY, whereas every SnowRunner region is like “hey, Bubba two streets over needs your help with these rocks” lol.

  • @jodiy0628
    @jodiy0628 3 роки тому +356

    Here is a little detail that they missed out on in snowrunner when the engine is off In mudrunner the steering wheel spins slower because no engine power lus no power steering is on yet snowrunner completely removed that feature.

    • @146fx
      @146fx 3 роки тому +16

      some truck uses hydraulic pump to turn the wheels so if engine is off pump isnt working. depends on what truck though...

    • @F_UNV
      @F_UNV 3 роки тому +2

      @@146fx original SpinTires don’t have that feature at all...

    • @comdrive3865
      @comdrive3865 2 роки тому +4

      I think snowrunner was built on an updated game engine, hence they had to remove some code when porting over it

  • @discoverymoi
    @discoverymoi 3 роки тому +253

    Man I’ve noticed the addons and trailers early and I can’t understand why in SnowRunner they used the same type for both regions. That is a easy thing and makes a huge difference.

    • @armoredp
      @armoredp 3 роки тому +18

      You'd think they still have all the assets of the Mudrunner game. I would not have minded they just copied/transferred them to Snowrunner.

    • @thefusionshark
      @thefusionshark 3 роки тому +2

      armoredp but also improving the visual appearance of the truck truck such as quality

    • @armoredp
      @armoredp 3 роки тому +10

      @@thefusionshark Well they'd get a visual upgrade being transferred into the Snowrunner engine, but honestly the details on the mudrunner trucks are topnotch already.

    • @thefusionshark
      @thefusionshark 3 роки тому +1

      armoredp yes while they are really good I think there’s some improvement to be done mainly on the interior

    • @MapleMan1984
      @MapleMan1984 3 роки тому +1

      @@armoredp they do, many of the tires are ripped from mudrunner

  • @boomyoulookingforthis1362
    @boomyoulookingforthis1362 3 роки тому +322

    They should have two scout classes, large scouts, and small scouts. The small scouts should have a recall feature.

    • @SD1ONE
      @SD1ONE  3 роки тому +41

      Nice Suggestion...Scouts class is kinda messed up...They really need that larg & small divide

    • @OttosTheName
      @OttosTheName 3 роки тому +8

      Small scouts might as well not be there though... A Kodiak is just as nimble and at least twice as fast as any scout in any tricky or difficult terrain. In MudRunner they were actually fun to drive.

    • @beezyj3227
      @beezyj3227 3 роки тому +6

      @@OttosTheName the scouts in Snowrunner are useless until you get the max upgrades for them with the lifted suspension and giant mud tires. They can't make it through the simplest terrain. Any 6x6 with stock tires is easier to navigate than the scouts. I never use the scouts for anything at all. I was excited to see the International Lodster and its add-ons, till I tried it and it's pretty much garbage. Only thing scouts are good for are collecting scout trailers to sell back to the trailer store. That's it. Even then I just use a regular truck, winch the trailer to the store, then use a scout to attach it and sell it.

    • @s1dney149
      @s1dney149 3 роки тому

      big brain moment

    • @boomyoulookingforthis1362
      @boomyoulookingforthis1362 3 роки тому

      @@s1dney149 oh yeah, this is big brain time

  • @brooksrownd2275
    @brooksrownd2275 3 роки тому +440

    The BEST thing about MudRunner was delivering user-created vehicles and maps through the Steam Workshop! The worst thing about SnowRunner is the lack of the classic soviet-era vehicles.

    • @armoredp
      @armoredp 3 роки тому +55

      Yeah they really dropped the ball on that one. I mean they had all the assets from Mudrunner, those trucks should have been there, they are iconic.

    • @kevinrhodes6066
      @kevinrhodes6066 3 роки тому +11

      You should wait, because they are making extra money with an epic exclusive contract, like many games, it should be in steam 1-2 years

    • @trombulan
      @trombulan 3 роки тому

      Couldn't agree more

    • @app_manifestation
      @app_manifestation 3 роки тому +8

      AND its not on steam.

    • @Tenere_
      @Tenere_ 3 роки тому +9

      there's already quite a few mods for the soviet era vehicles on pc

  • @aircooledgaming
    @aircooledgaming 3 роки тому +228

    One big feature that's missing in SnowRunner is H-pattern shifter for wheels. Huge disappointment that they removed that feature.

    • @OttosTheName
      @OttosTheName 3 роки тому +53

      And they removed cruise control. And precise throttle for keyboard players. And setting steering angle for winched vehicle, which was absolutely essential for towing through trees. So many downgrades were made to the basic mechanics...

    • @trombulan
      @trombulan 3 роки тому +5

      @@OttosTheName but, but graphics are most important... :))

    • @hellopeoplee
      @hellopeoplee 3 роки тому +10

      @@trombulan the high graphics just make my normal ps4 automatically turn them down most of the time and theirs no option I know of to change them manually so it ends up looking worse than Mudrunner instead of better

    • @vladvulcan
      @vladvulcan 3 роки тому

      that thing was unwieldy

    • @AdamWellman
      @AdamWellman 3 роки тому +6

      Really miss h-shifter with clutch made that mudrunner and even before that spin tires so great was being able to utilize the shifter and clutch

  • @reinbeers5322
    @reinbeers5322 3 роки тому +224

    Wish we had most of the old russian trucks here.
    Especially monsters like the E7310.

    • @ZoMTDU
      @ZoMTDU 3 роки тому +2

      Is the MAZ 8x8 in snow runner? That base Spin Tires vehicle was a beast.

    • @reinbeers5322
      @reinbeers5322 3 роки тому

      @@ZoMTDU Nope.

    • @peddy911
      @peddy911 3 роки тому +2

      Snowrunner is based on American trucks.

    • @ZoMTDU
      @ZoMTDU 3 роки тому +1

      @@peddy911 huh.

    • @jochenkraus7016
      @jochenkraus7016 3 роки тому +4

      Snowrunner has a Russian part that's a bit Mudrunner-ish (landscape, buildings, weather) with more modern vehicles.
      But as mentioned in the video, some of them could carry a longer flatbed or a bigger crane. Afaik there are several sizes of those yellow service things that contain both fuel an repair points.

  • @LasseKongo69
    @LasseKongo69 3 роки тому +319

    And is it only me who thinks the engine sounds have been downgraded?

    • @Markmckwn
      @Markmckwn 3 роки тому +49

      Engine sounds in Mudrunner is way better than Snowrunner! You are totally right, ive always said that to myself.

    • @crystalasteroid5571
      @crystalasteroid5571 3 роки тому +2

      @@Markmckwn so should I not get snow runner

    • @Markmckwn
      @Markmckwn 3 роки тому +19

      @@crystalasteroid5571 No absolutely man you have to get snowrunner, its amazing! Really Really brilliant game, just saying the sound of the trucks were better in mudrunner thats all.

    • @harleydanforth5986
      @harleydanforth5986 3 роки тому +1

      @@crystalasteroid5571 they have console mods in snow runner now and it makes it so much better

    • @tennydwyer4613
      @tennydwyer4613 3 роки тому +8

      @Sanningen if you thought snowrunner was awful then there’s no point in mud runner

  • @sillyquigga9467
    @sillyquigga9467 3 роки тому +82

    I absolutely love mudrunner, i can feel russia just by playing that game with my friends, getting stuck in mud, rivers, between trees. We helped each other and tried our best and when we discovered winch bug we took flight. Mudrunner has special place in my heart

  • @Vulture2k
    @Vulture2k 3 роки тому +129

    Actually the fuel capacity is a big thing to m. It's weird seeing some oshkosh have 300 Liter and sucking it dry in half a map when in reality they have like 800 or so. A lot of the big vehicles are very limited in range, I get that it is a gameplay mechanic.. But still.

    • @justindesrosiers3145
      @justindesrosiers3145 3 роки тому +4

      *cough cough*ANK MK38*cough cough*

    • @comethiburs2326
      @comethiburs2326 3 роки тому +12

      @@justindesrosiers3145 lol right, medium size, burns more fuel than the P16 under load.

    • @HalNordmann
      @HalNordmann Рік тому +2

      It is definitely a gameplay mechanic. Quite a few of the trucks have smaller tanks than in reality, to force players to think about fuel use.

    • @123nya
      @123nya Рік тому

      Именно для этого я скачивал программу, в которой вручную ставил количество топлива такое, какое и должно быть

  • @Kilb-ill
    @Kilb-ill 3 роки тому +111

    One of the first thing that come to my mind is, that in mudrunner a loaded trailer felt really heavy. In snowrunner it makes no difference if they're loaded or not....the bounce, jump and so on.

    • @altuck4x4
      @altuck4x4 3 роки тому +3

      That is very true 👍

    • @zyanide4968
      @zyanide4968 3 роки тому +16

      Dude try loading concrete blocks... they are so heavy

    • @Tominator907
      @Tominator907 3 роки тому +17

      Not true. Just loading them the trailers suspension squats.

    • @eggy_white2100
      @eggy_white2100 2 роки тому +8

      I went across a river crossing unloaded, came back with long logs and couldn't get across weight does have an impact

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy 2 роки тому +1

      @@thefreshprinceofbriggsmoun4441 they may have changed the weight of loaded trailers at some point, some are definitely still broken. like the fuel trailer, utility trailer, and maintenance trailer all don't weigh anything by default(probably around 2000-3000kg or something, the fuel one for example should weigh around 16,000kg). there's a mod to make them weigh the proper weight though, Real Life mod.

  • @initialyeet3951
    @initialyeet3951 3 роки тому +183

    I still feel Snowrunner is better, it’s simply more fun to me and the weather isn’t always depressing. The same addons is kinda sad but it makes space for more addons(like the crane). Also hard mode would help the recall feature.

    • @SD1ONE
      @SD1ONE  3 роки тому +53

      well... like I mentioned in disclaimer which nobody reads (including me 😜) this video doesn't mean mudrunner is better than snowrunner....I just want to mention the fearless they cut

    • @initialyeet3951
      @initialyeet3951 3 роки тому +5

      SD1ONE I was replying to others who said negative things

    • @danimal865
      @danimal865 3 роки тому +9

      I like snow runner too, but we need a manual transmission. I want to be able to hold my truck in a certain gear. Another simple thing id like to see is light bar options in all 4 directions on top of the cab if you choose. Towing top heavy 100 ton trailers down pitch black trails at night sucks. I know you can fast forward time to day light but i like the night time. We just need more light. We also should be able to carry more fuel. You shouldnt have to fill up every 10 to 15 mins of driving, especially when there is only one or 2 gas stations on the whole map. The winch range is horrible. I could go on but yeah, just a few things id like

    • @edenbarrera4591
      @edenbarrera4591 2 роки тому

      @@SD1ONE I like the video

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 роки тому +6

      I love the depressing weather 😂

  • @osmozz6981
    @osmozz6981 3 роки тому +12

    I think that the biggest thing that was changed for worse in my opinion from mud runner was the pacing of the whole game. I really prefered the puzzle type of maps over the snowrunners campaing style. When you found a ok truck the game never put a new really hard challenge in your way and game felt way more like busy work for the sake of compleating everything. In mud runner in the other hand you tried to find where are the trailers, vehicles on maps, and where you get fuel and where to transport it. And starting with the good old 1 star truck.
    Hopefully the mod maps will fix this issue that me and my friend have.

  • @vinhlocquach9603
    @vinhlocquach9603 3 роки тому +31

    3 more things that really irk me off:
    1. The automatic refuelling. In SnowRunner, sometimes the game automatically refuel from one source to another, while in MudRunner (+SpinTires), you don't have such problems. In fact, you can't syphon fuel between different vehicles like in SnowRunner (this I consider an improvement of SnowRunner, however). Also, you can't drain your fuel tank addon empty like in MudRunner. And no, hilariously, this feature can be seen not when you use a fuel station, but when you choose the "Refuel" option in the Advanced Menu. I consider this an annoyance and a very terrible design choice.
    2. The differential lock. In MudRunner (also the same for SpinTires), once you switch to Low gear, the differential lock will be automatically activated. Not so in SnowRunner. That old habit carries over to the next game, and especially problematic on the earlier driver levels where you're stuck with crappy highway tires. You park on a loading zone located on a difficult patch of terrain to use a crane, and return the vehicle to neutral, or do whatever the hell that gets the vehicle shifted to Auto. It starts sinking into the surface. Once you're done and packed your cargo, you want to drive away, but can't activate the differential lock because of the stupid change. You're stuck, and have to use another truck to help it out.
    3. What is the purpose of Neutral in this game, when you enter a vehicle it defaults to Auto? For a game flexing itself as a "simulator", this behavior will get you kicked out of a driving school, let alone technically possible in real life. Also, I don't understand why they don't allow differential locking in Neutral.
    I haven't even mentioned that they still haven't bother to change the in-game sun. Have you ever seen our Sun rising AND setting on the West? Never will. And there are many other things that I find inferior to MudRunner. But considering the dev team's capabilities with the bugs, I'd say these things might never get changed, and I'm almost used to them anyway. Let them focus on the bugs before any other change is made.
    I love the game. In fact, I've sunk so many hours into it that I can't remember. It generally did carry 2 of the greatest selling points of MudRunner and SpinTires which are replayability and modding capabilities. However, I consider SnowRunner a spin-off of the series, similar to Forza Motorsport and Horizon. I currently play all 3 of them, and since Oovee now actually picked up SpinTires where they left off, the game feels alive again, and that gives us players a good variety of tastes and experience. Maybe one day, we can get all (or most) of the good points of them all and combine into a single masterpiece. Now that is something I'm willing to pay full price for.
    (Edited for punctuation and grammar).

    • @WatanabeNoTsuna.
      @WatanabeNoTsuna. 3 роки тому

      Regarding your first point, it's not automatic refuel - sometimes the game thinks we pressed the button twice (maybe if we press it longer?) the same happens when you exit a menu.

    • @vinhlocquach9603
      @vinhlocquach9603 3 роки тому

      That’s a possibility. I find that this usually happens when you just load up a map (either from the main menu or just changing between maps) and then refuel from a truck or a trailer nearby. Usually it just happen once until you load a new map.

    • @thibautmerlin2376
      @thibautmerlin2376 3 роки тому

      I think the sole utility of Neutral is when your gearbox is wrecked and start mischifting, it shifts to the neutral gear.

  • @trombulan
    @trombulan 3 роки тому

    Hey, i love your vids. Will do you soms videos about Spintires as it gets regularly updates. Cheers and keep up the good content!

  • @poodn4559
    @poodn4559 3 роки тому +88

    In Snowrunner aren't you, the mc, supposed to be going around to all these places and doing all the tasks by yourself?
    I kinda wish there was character customization, though, seeing as we only ever get the one character

    • @HNTR308
      @HNTR308 3 роки тому +2

      Poodn
      It's in planing.

    • @poodn4559
      @poodn4559 3 роки тому +2

      @@HNTR308 oh, really? That's great to hear!

    • @poodn4559
      @poodn4559 3 роки тому +1

      I guess I should probably pay more attention, though

    • @Sirhumblr
      @Sirhumblr 2 роки тому

      @@poodn4559 did it ever come out?

    • @poodn4559
      @poodn4559 2 роки тому +1

      @@Sirhumblr as of rn, all the customization is for the trucks. I think that's what they're talking about

  • @captainevenslower4400
    @captainevenslower4400 3 роки тому +16

    I miss the dangling Power and air lines between truck and trailer from mudrunner.

  • @brooksrownd2275
    @brooksrownd2275 3 роки тому +35

    Weird, I never knew you could recall a scout to anywhere except a garage

  • @The8james5
    @The8james5 3 роки тому +20

    I miss the compass HUD, winch mechanics and map water depth

  • @vincentcastor5978
    @vincentcastor5978 3 роки тому +30

    I actually still enjoy playing Mudrunner, as it feels like a different game entirely. I felt that some of the details were a bit better. The nights seemed colder in Mudrunner, and the way water continues to pour from underneath the truck after going through water.

    • @grime2.085
      @grime2.085 2 роки тому

      Definitely they nights did seem much colder

  • @kwarkon1
    @kwarkon1 3 роки тому +28

    you forgot about key element: mud mechanics. In mudrunner your tires could damage the surface and dig in if you were not careful with your throttle. In snowrunner truck only just move slow in mud or stright get stuck. But the mud satys the same regardless of what you do.

    • @dragoxk4542
      @dragoxk4542 3 роки тому +1

      Really? That’s like the whole point

    • @eratoz5096
      @eratoz5096 3 роки тому +10

      @@dragoxk4542 not really actually I have the game and you can see the mud deforming under your wheel , tho I would say mudrunner did a way better job for it because in snowrunner it always feel like its either I'm stuck or I'm not compare to mudrunner where I could feel like even when I thought I was f*cked I could still use some skill to get me out of here

    • @Darion350
      @Darion350 2 роки тому

      I know this is ages old, but I find that using High or sometimes even Low-3 in mud causes me to get stuck due to digging in and then Low-2 or Low-1 will grab and get me out. Maybe it's just not as pronounced as it is in Mudrunner (I've only played Snowrunner).

    • @Nusszucker
      @Nusszucker 2 роки тому

      @@Darion350 I really just started playing snowrunner on thursday and at least from my standpoint (having played mudrunner thrusday morning and switching in the evening) I can say, mud physics is on point in snowrunner now, it feels great, you deform the terrain, create new tire groves in deep mud, different vehicles behave differently on the same terrain, the only thing i am kinda missing is the 3d mud buildup on the tires, i just guess the developer did listen to the community and changed things for the better (or im just blind, don't know, but I enjoy snowrunner a lot)

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy 2 роки тому

      @@Nusszucker yeah, honestly I went back and played some spintires and the mud just felt weird. like you would climb out of a mud pit so easily if you modulated the throttle. like instantly up ontop of the dirt without deforming the edge at all which felt weird to me, almost like the dirt was too stiff. could have just been that map though.

  • @Andrew-mv5kt
    @Andrew-mv5kt 3 роки тому +26

    someone should make a mod pack with all the mudrunner trucks in it. including that little tractor and the A-969
    Another thing is they should all have the old addons, as you said at 4:50

    • @swagmasteryolo6259
      @swagmasteryolo6259 3 роки тому +1

      I feel like someone has or is working on it

    • @armoredp
      @armoredp 3 роки тому +3

      And the MAZ 537, what a unit of a vehicle that is.

    • @Andrew-mv5kt
      @Andrew-mv5kt 3 роки тому +1

      Note, the new tuz warthog etc do have some mudrunner style add-ons, would love to see them as an option for other trucks, along with old trailers for scouts and trucks

    • @vladvulcan
      @vladvulcan 3 роки тому

      @@armoredp, Kolob 74760 is like 537 a lot

    • @armoredp
      @armoredp 3 роки тому +1

      @@vladvulcan True, but I really prefer the 1960/70 look on the trucks. That includes the Kraz 255 (pretty much the same as the Tayga) etc.

  • @elewis6622
    @elewis6622 3 роки тому +23

    Who remembers the fridge you could slap on top of that sedan

  • @cs.marcell469
    @cs.marcell469 3 роки тому +9

    Nice video!
    But don't forget Spintires's Flood map and it has the abillity to turn the second cars wheel to left and right while you are pulling it.

    • @Dirkietje8
      @Dirkietje8 3 роки тому +4

      I miss Deluge (Flood in Spintires) and I feel Mudrunner had better following mechanics.

  • @benmk21600
    @benmk21600 3 роки тому +20

    I was a beta tester of Spintires 2013-2015. You can see from my 2014 videos it was way ahead of it's time and pretty much the same as Mudrunner . This is because something major happened and there was a big fall out of the developers (Oovee) . Mudrunner bought the game ,added a few American trucks (There was already free mods!) and cashed in selling the game again . Last year Oovee got the game rights back so I presume Snowrunner with lots less features is all they have. Better graphics are probably quite easy now with the improvements in graphics engines , and using the same trailers and containers is just lazyness in my opinion. I think Spintires is back on steam.

    • @FirstFamilyCharger
      @FirstFamilyCharger 10 місяців тому +1

      I so wish they would make a new direct competitor to Snowrunner. Console mods and all. Probably not going to happen unfortunately. You can really feel how NOT authentic Snowrunner is.

  • @98dodge360v8
    @98dodge360v8 3 роки тому +13

    I miss the old winch drive/pull function. You should do a ANK vs Tayga comparison now that they added 2 new suspensions and Tayga tires to the ANK in the yukon update.

    • @SD1ONE
      @SD1ONE  3 роки тому +2

      will do that soon

  • @godisforever7263
    @godisforever7263 3 роки тому +9

    Spintires and mudrunner the best game of my life.
    And snowrunner a hole new experience.

  • @camoman7342
    @camoman7342 3 роки тому +36

    The biggest thing I miss from Mudrunner that should be in Snowrunner is cruise control.

    • @Dragunov302
      @Dragunov302 3 роки тому

      Yes

    • @mcormier3934
      @mcormier3934 2 роки тому

      @@Dragunov302 it's got it now

    • @123nya
      @123nya Рік тому

      ​@@mcormier3934 как включить это?

    • @mcormier3934
      @mcormier3934 Рік тому

      @@123nya for winching

    • @123nya
      @123nya Рік тому

      @@mcormier3934 how to enable cruise control in snow runner?

  • @victoriaevelyn3953
    @victoriaevelyn3953 3 роки тому +23

    The old gear box was better to you could put it into any speed and vary it not just low low, low mid and low high snow runner is a more polished version of mudrunner I do miss the trucks from the old game

    • @IronWolf307
      @IronWolf307 3 роки тому +4

      The mudrunner low with 3 different stages is your low-, low and low+. The old 1+ is now high, only thing they didn't keep was the different adjustments for reverse. Snowrunner has actual throttle control and mudrunner didn't plus i prefer the plus layout over the H pattern.

  • @kenj.4090
    @kenj.4090 3 роки тому +4

    I like the way Mudrunner feels while driving. It feels more realistic to me than Snowrunner did.
    And the Gearbox in Mudrunner works way much better for me, to shift is more fun.

  • @eoghanoriordan2818
    @eoghanoriordan2818 2 роки тому

    I 100% agree with ya on the river thing, like in mudrunner you actually had to be careful when you crossed rivers, like making sure how heavy your truck was or what you where pulling so the current doesn’t take ya, in snowrunner all you have to be careful of is having a snorkel

  • @armoredp
    @armoredp 3 роки тому +9

    I'd also like to add that mudrunner has much nicer (mud)tires and wheels, it almost seems like Snowrunner doesn't have any russian tires, apart from the TUZ tatarin. They just put American looking tires on the russian trucks. Just wish the DLC would also include more new tires, would rather have that, than another new scout.

    • @SD1ONE
      @SD1ONE  3 роки тому +5

      agreed... tires are same for most trucks... they should add like some exclusive tires like tayga has its wide tires although they shared those tires with warthog and tuz 16.

  • @mirohanhinen2517
    @mirohanhinen2517 3 роки тому +24

    But is the recall option REALLY realistic??

    • @EddieFPV
      @EddieFPV 3 роки тому +2

      agreed. soon we will be able to carry a small scout on a trailer so this should be fun

    • @SD1ONE
      @SD1ONE  3 роки тому +5

      I think they should make small scouts like DON, etc more relevant so that people would like to use them over bigger scouts like paystar, etc

    • @initialyeet3951
      @initialyeet3951 3 роки тому +3

      SD1ONE the PayStar isn’t a scout

    • @alelokox88
      @alelokox88 3 роки тому +2

      Is recalling your 12 tons truck to the garage realistic? No.
      Scouts are borderline useless in snowrunner, just the tatarin the Yar are usable and the tatarin cant even pull trailers.
      You could rescue your truck near a objective recalling a Scout and using the winch, you loose all spare parts and gas too so if you need that you needed to drive there still, if you only needed a push you could recall it. Was super useful and fair.

    • @SD1ONE
      @SD1ONE  3 роки тому +2

      @@initialyeet3951oops.. I mean loadstar.... little condition there

  • @ChipDouglas10
    @ChipDouglas10 3 роки тому +11

    Snowrunner is amazing game i love it but Mudrunner felt more realistic. Can't really point finger on what did it more realistic but it just felt more realistic

    • @EdyAlbertoMSGT3
      @EdyAlbertoMSGT3 2 роки тому +2

      I think its because MudRunner is much more simplified, you get inmersed easier as in Snowrunner you are often reminded that you're on a game by the HUD and menus.

    • @greyone40
      @greyone40 2 роки тому +2

      One thing that immediately disappointed me with Snowrunner was the lack of a standard gearbox. The way the auto system works just seems arcady and dumbing down. Then there is the "recover" function where you can just teleport back to the garage if you get stuck.

  • @SoilentGr33n
    @SoilentGr33n 3 роки тому

    Agreed on the winch, but also the Mudrunner Camera was so much better because of the amazing hotkey system with truck/trailer/front/back views. So much control. Now we swivel all the time.

  • @sigmaxi7822
    @sigmaxi7822 3 роки тому +2

    Haha, I did not know about the recall feature in Mudrunner. Nice

  • @Clogmonger
    @Clogmonger 3 роки тому +4

    Snowrunner is immensely fun, I'm way more addicted to it. But I was messing with Mudrunner on my switch and watching how tree stumps and such move around in the mud when you bump em was mesmerizing. I think the mud has been downgraded. It still looks good but I'm not often blown away by it like I was in mudrunner.

  • @connorthemusicguru690
    @connorthemusicguru690 3 роки тому +5

    Being able to spam the horn was fun in Mudrunner multiplayer, Snowrunner you have to let the horn finish before doing it again.

  • @lando1071
    @lando1071 3 роки тому +1

    You are spot on. You should send this to the developers so they can incorporate this into their next game as it's probably too late to add to snowrunner.

  • @bellator11
    @bellator11 3 роки тому +1

    Agree 100% with all points! Hopefully the devs will listen to this!

  • @user-kk6kw8qd5w
    @user-kk6kw8qd5w 3 роки тому +10

    And the sound of the engine and the whistle of a big turbine are also better in Mudrunner

  • @ninjafrozr8809
    @ninjafrozr8809 3 роки тому +4

    can you also do top 10 things Snowrunner does better than Mudrunner ? I've completely finished Mudrunner and now i'm playing through SnowRunner and they feel VERY different. Mudrunner was aa lot more challenging and realistic while Snowrunner just feels like doing things off of a checklist, both are equally good on their own rights imo.

  • @ajpend
    @ajpend 2 роки тому

    Valuable video; thank you.

  • @Mewzerr
    @Mewzerr 3 роки тому +1

    I love for the troll cars from mudrunner to be introduced into snowrunner. I think they would make great troll vehicles and with the right upgrades they'd be a good option to use as a scout vehicle😁

  • @vonflames9260
    @vonflames9260 3 роки тому +8

    Personally, Mudrunner is the better of the two games for creating an immersive realistic setting and allowing the drab grey-scale grainy feel of how it really is like to work with Russian equipment.
    Endless hours of trudging through depression inducing marshland to be beat down only on your mis-judging of fuel requirements, is exactly like it is, trust Me.
    Snowrunner feels to Me like just another trucking simulator. Kinda like when Mad Max got all Tina Turner, pointless expensive additions at the loss of realism.

  • @Squify69
    @Squify69 3 роки тому +21

    I was literally playing mudrunner when this came up lol

  • @sebinofh4379
    @sebinofh4379 3 роки тому

    Bro video was really amazing

  • @iamnotthemuffinman
    @iamnotthemuffinman 3 роки тому +1

    On the recall front, a nice advancement would be if you recalled a scout from a garage, it would physically gain a driver and actually drive to you, taking real time and using fuel on the way!

  • @SilverF250s
    @SilverF250s 3 роки тому +3

    I’m glad they have fixed lots of these.

  • @Natd0gsef
    @Natd0gsef 3 роки тому +4

    I would be very happy if someone would bring back the 1995 F-150

  • @lanzroco2
    @lanzroco2 2 роки тому +1

    I totally agree about the rivers. I wish someone would make maps in Snowrunner with more rivers and just water

    • @SD1ONE
      @SD1ONE  2 роки тому

      Yup...I really missed river and deluge maps in snowrunner...It would be awesome if someone make those maps with snowrunner setting as mod map or devs bring something similar.

  • @Arska.A.Tiikko
    @Arska.A.Tiikko Рік тому

    Very nice video to watch, especially when have played both games.

  • @bewcina
    @bewcina 3 роки тому +14

    What i really miss in ST, MR and SR is proper physics and sound of engine and gearbox. No clutch. No rev counter...nothing. Feels like driving mario kart not the big rig😕

  • @fukju9597
    @fukju9597 3 роки тому +3

    I hope the devs see this and take some notes for future snowrunner updates

  • @kingash4458
    @kingash4458 3 роки тому

    Great video bro

  • @jasonbell1698
    @jasonbell1698 3 роки тому +2

    i forgot about being able to recall scouts in mud runner. that could have saved me a lot of time if it were in snowrunner

  • @crazymic79
    @crazymic79 3 роки тому +15

    Mudrunner was available on Steam, enough said.

    • @0Lucaas
      @0Lucaas 3 роки тому +2

      @@BizlaC The problem is how it is trying to win over steam. I think...

    • @0Lucaas
      @0Lucaas 3 роки тому

      @@BizlaC I wouldn't think that way, but since i don't want to extend this longer. Okay.

    • @TheLegendBrolySS
      @TheLegendBrolySS 3 роки тому

      Epic is actually pretty good, not sure why they hate.

    • @TheLegendBrolySS
      @TheLegendBrolySS 3 роки тому

      Also not to mention mudrunner was given away free on epic, can't beat that.

    • @eratoz5096
      @eratoz5096 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheLegendBrolySS people like steam more because of the support it have (workshop,easy multiplayer,way better controller support) and people don't like epic for those reason but reverse (No modding support , being at the point of asking yourself if you should take a flight to your friend house to play cause it would be less complicated , and I can't even use my controller on epic )

  • @Orginal_Sinner
    @Orginal_Sinner 3 роки тому +6

    I really do prefer the mud physics of mud runner over snow runner. I also just don't understand why do bigger vehicle's have the same fuel capacity. The twin steer has 3 big gas tanks but no increased capacity. I feel like the devs made snow runner too easy. It really should be a hardcore OG mud runner mode.

    • @SD1ONE
      @SD1ONE  3 роки тому +3

      yes... they could have increased their fuel consumption for game balancing... don't know why they did that

    • @armoredp
      @armoredp 3 роки тому +3

      Agreed the mud physics are MUCH better in Mudrunner, your wheels actually deform the mud and make their way through depending on the deformation. In Snow runner the mud deformation seems to be only visual, and the speed you traverse through them is just a numbers game between the traction value of your selected tire and the max traction value they programmed in for that piece of surface. And then on top of that they added scripted in speed limited areas. (Think of the snow patches in lake Kovd.)

    • @Dirkietje8
      @Dirkietje8 3 роки тому

      I am just really hoping for a gamemode like Hardcore. No recovering, increased fuel consumption, but trucks get rebalanced fuel tanks, only manual loading and more stuff like that. Maybe some one will mod it, but I would prefer it if the devs acknowledged the core of the fanbase who desire a bit more of a challenge after half a year of SR.

    • @Orginal_Sinner
      @Orginal_Sinner 3 роки тому +1

      @@armoredp i really don't enjoy the snow. I just got the upgrades and vehicles. Went back to the normal mud environments

    • @Orginal_Sinner
      @Orginal_Sinner 3 роки тому +1

      @@Dirkietje8 i plus ultra agree with you.

  • @tealcformerfirstprimeofapo22
    @tealcformerfirstprimeofapo22 3 роки тому +2

    Lots of things here i miss from mudrunner
    I would love a return of the recall feature

  • @SchazmenRassir
    @SchazmenRassir 3 роки тому +1

    I agree with all of these. But I have to note the troll vehicles.
    The A-968M is... well, no need to explain, really. It's a legend on this channel for a reason.
    The B-6A tractor is... honestly, surprisingly capable, in some regards. In a mod map (I forget which) that had swamp areas, all the vanilla vehicles kept getting stuck, and needed winches to move forward... except the tractor. It was slow-going, but that thing trundled on through the areas others couldn't, and only needed the winch a couple times to get over fallen trees.
    Kinda similar with the old B-130, actually. It's not powerful, but it's not useless either.
    Then again, I suppose it all depends on experience and will vs time and effort, but still.

  • @beaverchicken
    @beaverchicken 3 роки тому +7

    THE HEAVY METAL BLASTING FROM THE LUMBER MILL IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE WHOOO YEEEEASSH

  • @darrylelam256
    @darrylelam256 3 роки тому +11

    While I agree with you on most of it, I do have a few nitpicks. Granted that I never played Mudrunnner.
    1. I like having the same driver, I like to think of the characters as 'me' when playing games. To switch characters just because you switched trucks seems odd to me. That said even just having an option to pick from 2-3 drivers would be nice.
    2. We are getting that forklift in phase 2, so we aren't completely without unique vehicles. Althou I wouldn't mind some more troll vehicles.
    3. I see the standardized trailers as a bit more common sense for the loads that are carried in snowrunner. When phase 3 and logging come out, then yea that would makes sense to have trailer different in size depending on the trunk.
    4. I agree that some of those longer trucks should have like 3 slot addons, but we do 3 trucks in phase 1 that have 1 slot addons. and the two Russia trucks have very Russian looking fuel tanks. And looks like in phase 2 we will get a Russia truck with a built a crane(can't fully tell as its all white lol).
    5. Lastly having different trailers for Russia and American trucks is nice, but I think it would be better if map that was the deciding factor. I mean if you are on a Russian map why would you be hauling American trailers just because you are driving an American truck? I mean bringing your truck over to another country is one thing, but bringing a number of trailers too? That doesn't make much sense.

  • @Hurricill
    @Hurricill 3 роки тому +2

    I miss the long logs in Snowrunner so much, would like to carry some Wood over those new Maps with the newer graphics

  • @bane9263
    @bane9263 3 роки тому

    I like the video u got good points of way they could add in a feature updates that could help out alot

  • @footypatrawisesa6422
    @footypatrawisesa6422 3 роки тому +5

    2:05 Bob vs uncle sam were always have a fight

  • @BrianM78
    @BrianM78 3 роки тому +5

    After watching this I want to try Mudrunner.

  • @ITS4C3D3M0N
    @ITS4C3D3M0N 2 роки тому

    I would love to see this redone after all the updates we have had to snow runner now

  • @cadet5126
    @cadet5126 2 роки тому

    I 100% agree. Small scouts should have recall feature, trucks with huge space should have something to fill those gaps like unique addons, semitrailer, carriage/trailer and/or utility box for repair and refuel. One thing too that saddles should be movable like back and forth for adjustments

  • @ghostofakina2512
    @ghostofakina2512 2 роки тому +3

    Mudrunner felt harder to me, i remember i was getting stuck in places i didnt expect to. And it was really hard to get the platinum trophy. While snowrunner seems a bit more arcade to me, after i got a good truck and unlocked mud tires, it seems that it will never get stuck. Of course tho if you want something more challenging you can get a worse truck with all terrain tires.

  • @ericdempsey6097
    @ericdempsey6097 3 роки тому +6

    I never bought Mudrunner, was busy with other topics. But during that time of release and time period I watched many of your videos. I found your videos entertaining and informative of game absolutely. But by watching those works you did made me download Snowrunner, so sir I blame you for my past few days of addictive/ torturous gameplay I have received with a smile on my face. A wonderful game I play thanks to you !! Peace all...til you get stuck.

  • @CBerr
    @CBerr Рік тому

    Playing mudrenner as a kid always creeped me out the sound of whistling diesels in the pitch black woods was creepy and awesome.

  • @redlion13bravod66
    @redlion13bravod66 3 роки тому +1

    Man I forgot about the recall they need to add that in SN, my hope for the different loaders is they will add them in when they do the Wisconsin dlc for logging we’ll see though

  • @deenanthekemoni5567
    @deenanthekemoni5567 3 роки тому +13

    Can I just say I am whole heartedly addicted to this game.. brilliant atmosphere and physics based gameplay with gorgeous scenery and top notch engine sound effects. I have been lost in this game for weeks. I am preordering whatever STers releases next. 👍

  • @HassanMohamoud-lg2xw
    @HassanMohamoud-lg2xw 3 роки тому +3

    free on the epic store 26.11.20 - 03.12.20

  • @x7bsytchannel
    @x7bsytchannel 3 роки тому +1

    I hope they take this as a reference for future updates.

  • @evobsm2328
    @evobsm2328 2 роки тому

    I deffinitly agree with the addon thing. I hope they change it some time in the future

  • @NovardNoodle
    @NovardNoodle 3 роки тому +3

    Wait I never knew about the scout recall feature in Mudrunner :O That makes so much sense! I always found scouts in general lacking in snowrunner. Just use a normal truck to scout.

  • @xdxd4081
    @xdxd4081 3 роки тому +3

    Well snowrunner might have a troll vehicle, and that is the CAT TH357D telehander, well it is because the game is 95% offroad game and the TH357D is quite out of character but it is meant to load things onto the truck so either it is a troll vehicle or a normal.

  • @yourlocalbaltimorerailfan.6756
    @yourlocalbaltimorerailfan.6756 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for appreciating Mudrunner still.

  • @Howdy_Heavyfoot
    @Howdy_Heavyfoot 3 роки тому

    played mudrunner a lot and loved it. plays snowrunner daily and its really nice and a lift in graphic etc but yeah as you show in the video snowrunner is lack of those details. it should be different on american and russian and the size of truck etc :) good content

  • @Ronh83
    @Ronh83 3 роки тому +15

    This is exactly the same things I miss in the game! More diverse addons do a lot to the feel of the game. Send a link of this vid to the developers!! :)

  • @MOMAZOSPATO
    @MOMAZOSPATO 3 роки тому +3

    This game is in beta, I know that most things will be added and improved this year.

  • @TruckerCletus
    @TruckerCletus 3 роки тому

    I love both games in their own way. But i do miss the big river crossings and such! 😍😍

  • @GrayZ_dood
    @GrayZ_dood 2 роки тому

    What I aslo like is that instead of just getting a filled up fuel trailer/add-on, you actually had to go and fill it up in a fuel station on Mudrunner.

  • @yusufkadir5526
    @yusufkadir5526 3 роки тому +17

    true facts

    • @Wolf-wc8kl
      @Wolf-wc8kl 3 роки тому +2

      But I really like snowrunner as same

  • @trg_pork6613
    @trg_pork6613 3 роки тому +3

    I prefer snowrunner because it has a more varied amount of environments to play around in and the trucks are way better. The game is less frustrating and it feels less like a delivery simulator and more like an off-road game.

  • @quitfarm87
    @quitfarm87 Рік тому

    Good Job + Like!

  • @user-em5p
    @user-em5p 3 роки тому

    Your video is on point

  • @HaloPlato
    @HaloPlato 3 роки тому +3

    Saying snowrunner has no troll vehicles, then later complaining that the troll vehicles in snowrunner lack functionality (small scout recal)

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 роки тому +2

      Is the Loaf not classed as a troll vehicle? it's not a recommended scout unless you want to mess with a bread van.

    • @SD1ONE
      @SD1ONE  3 роки тому +1

      well small scouts are less useful but we can't say that they're troll....9n other hand car amd tractor from mudrunner are completely useless

    • @jessegd6306
      @jessegd6306 3 роки тому

      I wouldn't say the car and tractor are completely useless, as one could potentially still scout with one and deliver fuel/repairs with the other.
      It's just that they're TERRIBLE at those jobs.

  • @GoatmanBDX
    @GoatmanBDX 3 роки тому +4

    What about no cruise control? Does no one miss the cruise control?

    • @maxx1o1
      @maxx1o1 3 роки тому

      I didn't even know mudrunner had cruise control

    • @AtomicWaffle
      @AtomicWaffle 3 роки тому

      @@maxx1o1 if u held RS on a xb controller u turn on CC, but u wont be able to turn the camera around anymore. U could only shift. It was more like putting a brick on the pedal rather than modern version of CC, cause u know... old trucks and all.

    • @maxx1o1
      @maxx1o1 3 роки тому

      @@AtomicWaffle Im not using a controller but I'll try it the next time I play mud runner

  • @josua1
    @josua1 2 роки тому

    I agree and i miss also the rivers on the map where they are indicating the depths of all the rivers in mudrunner

  • @3M0T10NL3SS
    @3M0T10NL3SS 7 місяців тому

    What totally gets me is physics in snowrunner. It works at things only about 7 metres away from the vehicle. A great example is letting a box fall from a mountain. It just gets stuck in the miggle of fall and if you don't put a vehicle or crane near it, it just sits here and waits even when there's nothing under it

    • @SD1ONE
      @SD1ONE  7 місяців тому +1

      yes...that's actually same for all 3 games, In SR it is more noticiable because there's a lot going on like your various types of cargo, various trailers, etc so chances of them getting stuck in air is also high.

  • @sgt_kissekatt6686
    @sgt_kissekatt6686 3 роки тому +8

    Yeah sadly this is a pretty common thing, when a game increases in one aspect it decreases in others.
    So when Mudrunner turning into the open world Snowrunner they cut back on work that made Mudrunner so good, sadly, other than the things mentioned in this video Snowrunner have been lovely!

  • @Japixx
    @Japixx 3 роки тому +3

    I feel like both Spintires were more like tech demos and Snowrunner is fully polished game

    • @eratoz5096
      @eratoz5096 3 роки тому

      I disagree with that , spintire feels like a really complet game just more indie without all the big name like ford or cat . A tech demo would just be mud deformation and a basic sample car with nothing to do kinda like beamng.drive (which is still a fantastic tech demo just not really a "game")

  • @IronWolf307
    @IronWolf307 3 роки тому +2

    Agree with most of the video except calling the b-6a a troll vehicle. That tractor is the secret weapon for solo getting hardcore one star deluge.

  • @djhiggins4431
    @djhiggins4431 2 роки тому +1

    You can pull 2nd truck in snow runner with engine off now, mostly you're right about mudrunner though, the problem I think is that snowrunner has alot more going on so they cut some small details to simplify everything and get the game released as quickly as possible. They are slowly updating it and it is steadily getting better. Next generation game will be crazy I think