The Sunday Denver Post sports section the day of the game had a headline in huge, bold print that read DARTH RAIDER along with a comic artist drawing of a huge football player type with a Darth Vader mask. The Broncos were going to the defending SB champs place without Elway and there was trepidation to say the least. Kubiak had been drafted late in the same year as Elway, completely untested going in. We pretty much thought the Broncos had no chance but ended up a great game. Great year, great time in the AFC West. This game has been the Darth Raider game for me ever since :)
I am not a U.S citizen, but as a foreigner, that was the best NFL game I have ever seen in terms of high drama, bad luck, missed opportunities, turnovers, great defence, power running etc. Forget about the one-sided blowouts in the other 4pm games that day (Miami vs Buffalo; Washington vs Giants; SF vs Rams). This was a truly remarkable game with a winner at the end. Denver certainly didn't help themselves with that timid first half performance, but thanks to true grit, they managed to hold on. As for Marcus Allen fumbling around 2:16 left in the 4th quarter, you had a feeling this game would go to overtime, but had Karlis not missed the extra point some time earlier, Denver would have won in regulation no doubt. What was Tom Flores thinking in not kicking to win? He second guessed himself and paid the price. The game was played in a true professional, competitive spirit. Thankfully this game was sold out, because if it hadn't been, the locals would have to tune into one of the other 4pm games and missed out on a classic.
If you're a Denver fan, this game is probably a top 10 game in their history. The Raiders were the defending NFL champions, playing in their home stadium, and this was arguably the best team they ever had, even compared to the hard-assed 70s teams that Madden coached. This was two really determined teams that traded body blows all game, and Denver ultimately got in the final shot to win and show they could hang with the league's best.
A game that the raiders had, had in hand and they showed their true galvanizing colors with the fumble by Al's whipping boy Marcus Allen. Just pure poetry to know that Sammy Winder showed his grit all afternoon, to be undone by a fumble, but the team just kept smacking the raiders in the mouth. This win was just a regular season tilt, and to be honest it was all wasted with the home field loss to Pittsburgh later in the divisional playoffs. I personally thought this was actually Dan Reeves best year coaching the team.
@@BAYAREA-kd1ig ...I grew up watching the 80s Broncos. They would barely win, and get their tails kicked in some other games. Chicago smashed the 13-3 Broncos that year, and they lost a home playoff game to 9-7 Pittsburgh.
Great game. Thanks for sharing. Look how fully the Coliseum was. Mike Harden made so many big plays. I don't see how he never made the Pro Bowl. Tom Jackson hated the Raiders. He was a great leader on defense. Kubiak was the best backup QB in the NFL. He goes on the road and beats the defending SB champ, and there was still no QB controversy. Elway was back the next week. The Broncos Orange Crush defense was great back then. They had size and athleticism in the secondary. The front seven was smart and crafty. Dan Fouts once said, you weren't soar physically after playing the Broncos, but you were soar mentally. Joe Collier is one of the great defensive coordinators of that era. He did a lot of things with the 3-4 that Belichick is still doing today. There was a lot of talent on both sides of the ball in this game. Last thing, I liked Rich Karlis, but I don't see how he kept his job. He missed so many big kicks. He was no Jason Elam.
As a kid growing up in Miami, FL….Dolphin fans experienced the same thing. The 80K Orange Bowl rarely sold out in time to meet the black out rule deadline (48 hours before kickoff) and I missed so many games.
If I remember correctly, back then, the game had to be completely sold out to be televised. I remember the '85 game vs. the 49ers got televised, but can't remember any others.
@@sgzartani believe so. when the raiders played new england in the playoffs here in '86, there were like 1,500-2,000 tickets still out the night before the game. al didn't buy them out. i listened to the raiders lose on the radio.
Thanks for uploading. This was my first time going to an NFL game. There were a lot of angry, violent and intoxicated Raiders fans there with the LAPD arresting the guy next to me. We were there for Denver (to see our family member play) so my Dad told us to to be quiet and don't talk to anybody so we can get out of here safely.
that was the gameplan for visiting fans back in rhe day. don't wear your team's gear. don't cheer too loud. it was good to have a raider fan in your group too to act as the peacemaker.
Try going to the Oakland Coliseum as a Charger fan. Saw four games there between Chargers and Raiders and had to run the gauntlet through the parking lot. Had a lot of looks even though I didn't wear Charger colors. Scary place.
I saw this game when I was 15 years old. Tough game. They kept on saying the Broncos defense only gave up 99 points in the 1st 8 games! That's the mid season point. I miss those days. Today's NFL teams would typically give about 99 points in 3 or 4 games now and that would be considered decent defense. The NFL commissioner Goodall has ruined what what made the NFL great with all his stupid decisions over the years such as castration of the defensive squads intentionally to make higher scoring games.
That’s why Patty Mahomes has two cheap rings already. The NFL is watered down. No defense. The defenses can’t hit low, can’t hit hard, can’t cover, just cannot defend. The refs throw flags in crucial moments. It’s a business and not a game now. Gone are the days of Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Kevin Greene, Ronnie Lott, and so on.
johnnyfoto, I remember this game was played for almost 4 hours that afternoon (regulation and OT). The NBC stations in the Eastern and Central Time Zones that carried this game that afternoon since that game ended at almost 8 P.M. Eastern Time didn't get to see new episodes from "Silver Spoons" and "Punky Brewster" that night.
I'm a native,from Cincinnati,I remember this game,I even met raider maike ,darh Vader and girl dress as a warrior,the colosseum, it wasn't 90,000, it was more than 96,000, go Raiders,sincere,James dienn,Cincinnati, ohio
Yeah Allen was def.the last guy we wanted to see with the ball when we were just trying to run the friggin clock out and get the hell out of there but that said..our clock management was laughably bad times too..Our ball 19-12 with 2:29 left 2nd and 6 on Denver’s 18 yard line they have 2 timeouts left..run Hawkins or King up the middle for a yard or two so after they use their 2nd timeout it’s let’s say 3rd and 4 with 2:24 left ball on Denver’s 16..same drill give us another 2 yards so 4th and 2 ball on Denver 14 with 2:20 left after they use their last timeout..ok so for people that couldn’t stand Bahr(don’t blame you)no problem how about we just do the same exact thing..pick up the first down and game’s over..don’t pick it up say we only gain 1 and turn it over on Downs at the Denver 13 with 2:15 left..Now they have to go 87 yards in 2:15 with no timeouts..or we just send Bahr out there on 4th and 2 from their 14 to kick a 30-31 yarder to go up 10 game over🤦🏻♂️ Never understood why we’d sometimes turn the end of these game’s into one big clusterf**k for no reason🤦🏻♂️
Marcus was my favorite growing up and one of the greatest all-around backs, but every Raider game I watch from this era Marcus has a costly fumble. That had to drive Al bananas.
Omg the first fumble that Allen killed us with was against the Jets in the 82 divisional playoff game ready to go up 21-10 in the 4th quarter and he fumbles..then this game..the next season 85 fumbled in the Divisional Playoff Game against the Patriots of course in their territory after a long run up 20-17 in the 3rd Quarter..then the worst one ever was the next season 86 after we reel off about 6 straight wins we’re in overtime setting Bahr up for the chip-shot game-winner against the Eagles and we hand him the ball one last time to center it and he fumbles and they run it all the way back for a TD..Then 91 Wild Card playoff in KC had ANOTHER huge fumble while were driving in the 4th quarter only needing a FG to win..I could keep going..it was f*****g insanity
@@BAYAREA-kd1ig your 100% right- wilson stunk the place up- and pruitt fumbling away punt after punt didnt help matters any. even with the fumble marcus allen along with howie long was one of the bright spots. al davis was senile to freeze him and let him go like that...
Some of my favorite Bronco teams were from the 80s...going to 3 AFC-TITLE Games in 4 years..Was at the Raiders/Broncos game earlier in the season at Mile-High...when Karl Mecklenburg blasted Marcus Allen with the "HIT".....Broncos won I think 16-13.....sitting in the old-south stands....Dan Reeves for a while had an undefeated record vs defending SB-Champs...sweeping the Raiders in 81....beating the 49ers in 82....sweeping the Raiders in 84 and beating the 49ers in 85..
Imagine how much aggravation we could’ve saved ourselves and how many losses to teams we were much more talented than if we just used Hawkins on short yardage and to run out the clock..OR how about drafting someone else in 82 instead of Allen considering we already had King in his prime..Hawkins..and Pruitt..we lost too many f****n games because Allen wasn’t reliable enough to put games away that we dominated..as bad as we played early we still lost that NYJ playoff game in 82 because..shocker..after we went up 14-10 in the 4Q and were inside the Jets 15 again with 11:00 minutes to play Allen fumbled again🤦🏻♂️ brutal
That game was another classic we swept them in 85 after losing two brutal ones in 84..the 85 game in LA was up at one time but got taken down..seems like we get a lot of our classic games taken down for some reason very frustrating..
The year before the Raiders had a chance to draft Dan Marino with the 26 pick but let him go to Miami at 27. Earlier in the draft the NFL blocked a trade by the Raiders to get John Elway. Plunkett was old and beat up (almost 37 years old). Marc Wilson was terrible. They could have been a dynasty team.
It definitely would have been something to watch at least early on. It certainly would have solved the ineptitude at the qb position throughout the 80's. At the same time, I could also see Dan Marino and Al Davis butting heads at some point. This would likely lead to some scenario similar to Marcus Allen/Kenny Stabler.
The raiders should have won the super bowl again in '84 I mean it would have been a tough game to win with the 49ers in there because that was Joe Montana's best 49er team in '84 they were 15 and 1 but the raiders had a knack of knocking teams like that off like they did the year before when that Redskin team was being called the greatest team of all time they went in there and demolished them
I remember watching this when I was 15.Man I miss those good old days of the NFL.These days it's not the same.
I do not even watch anymore
The golden age of sports is gone never to return
It seems like everything was better back then…
The Sunday Denver Post sports section the day of the game had a headline in huge, bold print that read DARTH RAIDER along with a comic artist drawing of a huge football player type with a Darth Vader mask. The Broncos were going to the defending SB champs place without Elway and there was trepidation to say the least. Kubiak had been drafted late in the same year as Elway, completely untested going in. We pretty much thought the Broncos had no chance but ended up a great game. Great year, great time in the AFC West.
This game has been the Darth Raider game for me ever since :)
I remember that Hawkins fumble in O/T like it was yesterday. Still hurts!
I am not a U.S citizen, but as a foreigner, that was the best NFL game I have ever seen in terms of high drama, bad luck, missed opportunities, turnovers, great defence, power running etc. Forget about the one-sided blowouts in the other 4pm games that day (Miami vs Buffalo; Washington vs Giants; SF vs Rams). This was a truly remarkable game with a winner at the end. Denver certainly didn't help themselves with that timid first half performance, but thanks to true grit, they managed to hold on.
As for Marcus Allen fumbling around 2:16 left in the 4th quarter, you had a feeling this game would go to overtime, but had Karlis not missed the extra point some time earlier, Denver would have won in regulation no doubt. What was Tom Flores thinking in not kicking to win? He second guessed himself and paid the price.
The game was played in a true professional, competitive spirit. Thankfully this game was sold out, because if it hadn't been, the locals would have to tune into one of the other 4pm games and missed out on a classic.
If you're a Denver fan, this game is probably a top 10 game in their history. The Raiders were the defending NFL champions, playing in their home stadium, and this was arguably the best team they ever had, even compared to the hard-assed 70s teams that Madden coached. This was two really determined teams that traded body blows all game, and Denver ultimately got in the final shot to win and show they could hang with the league's best.
Excellent video quality for a VHS era game! Great work! Thanks for posting.
And how.
Thanks for posting, this looks and sounds good for it's age.
A game that the raiders had, had in hand and they showed their true galvanizing colors with the fumble by Al's whipping boy Marcus Allen. Just pure poetry to know that Sammy Winder showed his grit all afternoon, to be undone by a fumble, but the team just kept smacking the raiders in the mouth. This win was just a regular season tilt, and to be honest it was all wasted with the home field loss to Pittsburgh later in the divisional playoffs. I personally thought this was actually Dan Reeves best year coaching the team.
It was his best record with Denver. Personally thought Reeves was heck of a coach overall.
@@BAYAREA-kd1ig Good to hear him getting some much deserved respect.
STFU Karen. True colors. Better than those Klan members in orange in that cesspool y'all call Denver. Racist, meth'd out pieces of garbage.
I still don't know why AL hated Marcus Allen so bad.
@@BAYAREA-kd1ig ...I grew up watching the 80s Broncos. They would barely win, and get their tails kicked in some other games. Chicago smashed the 13-3 Broncos that year, and they lost a home playoff game to 9-7 Pittsburgh.
Great game. Thanks for sharing. Look how fully the Coliseum was. Mike Harden made so many big plays. I don't see how he never made the Pro Bowl. Tom Jackson hated the Raiders. He was a great leader on defense. Kubiak was the best backup QB in the NFL. He goes on the road and beats the defending SB champ, and there was still no QB controversy. Elway was back the next week. The Broncos Orange Crush defense was great back then. They had size and athleticism in the secondary. The front seven was smart and crafty. Dan Fouts once said, you weren't soar physically after playing the Broncos, but you were soar mentally. Joe Collier is one of the great defensive coordinators of that era. He did a lot of things with the 3-4 that Belichick is still doing today. There was a lot of talent on both sides of the ball in this game. Last thing, I liked Rich Karlis, but I don't see how he kept his job. He missed so many big kicks. He was no Jason Elam.
What an entertaining game. Each team had many chances to win. They had many close contests in the 1980's.
These teams played many overtime games.
Excellent video quality
The AFC West was a monster like the NFC East of this period
The AFC West has won a lot of Lombardi’s.
Back then it was one of the best heated riverals in the NFL Darth Vader vs the orange crush
I remember watching this game as a kid. Thanks for posting this. This is what I'll think of this game 2:48:23. Lol at 2:50:30
Lol
these games were always blacked out in LA if they didn't sell out 72 hours in advance.
Tom Jackson so much more ball aware than Bruce Davis on the Allen strip late in Q2.
Real football again wow great to see!
Wow I love all the 4pm matchups that day
Thanks for uploading
The sad thing about being in LA is that we never got to see these games. They were ALWAYS blacked out. Both Rams and Raiders.
As a kid growing up in Miami, FL….Dolphin fans experienced the same thing. The 80K Orange Bowl rarely sold out in time to meet the black out rule deadline (48 hours before kickoff) and I missed so many games.
Thats one good thing about modern technology. We can finally see these games on yt
If I remember correctly, back then, the game had to be completely sold out to be televised. I remember the '85 game vs. the 49ers got televised, but can't remember any others.
but bill king on the radio was FANTASTIC.
@@sgzartani believe so. when the raiders played new england in the playoffs here in '86, there were like 1,500-2,000 tickets still out the night before the game. al didn't buy them out. i listened to the raiders lose on the radio.
What a great game to watch, thanks for uploading!!!
Lucky Marc Wilson! That looked like a fumble to me early in Q3.
Thanks for uploading. This was my first time going to an NFL game. There were a lot of angry, violent and intoxicated Raiders fans there with the LAPD arresting the guy next to me. We were there for Denver (to see our family member play) so my Dad told us to to be quiet and don't talk to anybody so we can get out of here safely.
that was the gameplan for visiting fans back in rhe day. don't wear your team's gear. don't cheer too loud. it was good to have a raider fan in your group too to act as the peacemaker.
Try going to the Oakland Coliseum as a Charger fan. Saw four games there between Chargers and Raiders and had to run the gauntlet through the parking lot. Had a lot of looks even though I didn't wear Charger colors. Scary place.
I saw this game when I was 15 years old. Tough game. They kept on saying the Broncos defense only gave up 99 points in the 1st 8 games! That's the mid season point. I miss those days. Today's NFL teams would typically give about 99 points in 3 or 4 games now and that would be considered decent defense. The NFL commissioner Goodall has ruined what what made the NFL great with all his stupid decisions over the years such as castration of the defensive squads intentionally to make higher scoring games.
That’s why Patty Mahomes has two cheap rings already. The NFL is watered down. No defense. The defenses can’t hit low, can’t hit hard, can’t cover, just cannot defend. The refs throw flags in crucial moments. It’s a business and not a game now. Gone are the days of Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Kevin Greene, Ronnie Lott, and so on.
johnnyfoto, I remember this game was played for almost 4 hours that afternoon (regulation and OT). The NBC stations in the Eastern and Central Time Zones that carried this game that afternoon since that game ended at almost 8 P.M. Eastern Time didn't get to see new episodes from "Silver Spoons" and "Punky Brewster" that night.
Consider those fans blessed.
“Oh and the back up QB had 5 TD’s last week” no big deal.
Now the Raiders have relocated to Las Vegas I can imagine playing the arch rival Kansas City Chiefs for first place
Well that didn't pan out.
Raiders have never been the same since the early 80s
they're a poorly run franchise. bad drafts. bad free agent signings. bad luck (henry ruggs). underappreciating carr.
Back when football was football
I'm a native,from Cincinnati,I remember this game,I even met raider maike ,darh Vader and girl dress as a warrior,the colosseum, it wasn't 90,000, it was more than 96,000, go Raiders,sincere,James dienn,Cincinnati, ohio
Anytime you heard olsen and enberg you knew it would be a good one.
Yeah Allen was def.the last guy we wanted to see with the ball when we were just trying to run the friggin clock out and get the hell out of there but that said..our clock management was laughably bad times too..Our ball 19-12 with 2:29 left 2nd and 6 on Denver’s 18 yard line they have 2 timeouts left..run Hawkins or King up the middle for a yard or two so after they use their 2nd timeout it’s let’s say 3rd and 4 with 2:24 left ball on Denver’s 16..same drill give us another 2 yards so 4th and 2 ball on Denver 14 with 2:20 left after they use their last timeout..ok so for people that couldn’t stand Bahr(don’t blame you)no problem how about we just do the same exact thing..pick up the first down and game’s over..don’t pick it up say we only gain 1 and turn it over on Downs at the Denver 13 with 2:15 left..Now they have to go 87 yards in 2:15 with no timeouts..or we just send Bahr out there on 4th and 2 from their 14 to kick a 30-31 yarder to go up 10 game over🤦🏻♂️ Never understood why we’d sometimes turn the end of these game’s into one big clusterf**k for no reason🤦🏻♂️
I went to this game this started the Allen and Davis fued with the fumble
Davis should have had a fued with Marc Wilson that guy was a toxic bozo
Marcus was my favorite growing up and one of the greatest all-around backs, but every Raider game I watch from this era Marcus has a costly fumble. That had to drive Al bananas.
I didn't know that. I thought it was the fumble against the Eagles in 1986.
Omg the first fumble that Allen killed us with was against the Jets in the 82 divisional playoff game ready to go up 21-10 in the 4th quarter and he fumbles..then this game..the next season 85 fumbled in the Divisional Playoff Game against the Patriots of course in their territory after a long run up 20-17 in the 3rd Quarter..then the worst one ever was the next season 86 after we reel off about 6 straight wins we’re in overtime setting Bahr up for the chip-shot game-winner against the Eagles and we hand him the ball one last time to center it and he fumbles and they run it all the way back for a TD..Then 91 Wild Card playoff in KC had ANOTHER huge fumble while were driving in the 4th quarter only needing a FG to win..I could keep going..it was f*****g insanity
@@BAYAREA-kd1ig your 100% right- wilson stunk the place up- and pruitt fumbling away punt after punt didnt help matters any. even with the fumble marcus allen along with howie long was one of the bright spots. al davis was senile to freeze him and let him go like that...
Kubiak wasn’t a bad quarterback. He had some great games when Elway was out.
Some of my favorite Bronco teams were from the 80s...going to 3 AFC-TITLE Games in 4 years..Was at the Raiders/Broncos game earlier in the season at Mile-High...when Karl Mecklenburg blasted Marcus Allen with the "HIT".....Broncos won I think 16-13.....sitting in the old-south stands....Dan Reeves for a while had an undefeated record vs defending SB-Champs...sweeping the Raiders in 81....beating the 49ers in 82....sweeping the Raiders in 84 and beating the 49ers in 85..
Think about it he could have had a draft of pickel, Townsend and marino
However, he (Al Davis) was committed to Marc Wilson...🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🙄🙄🙄
Don Mosebar though was hardly a bust
Barnwell never could shield his body and make clutch catches he dropped so many catches he should have made
Imagine how much aggravation we could’ve saved ourselves and how many losses to teams we were much more talented than if we just used Hawkins on short yardage and to run out the clock..OR how about drafting someone else in 82 instead of Allen considering we already had King in his prime..Hawkins..and Pruitt..we lost too many f****n games because Allen wasn’t reliable enough to put games away that we dominated..as bad as we played early we still lost that NYJ playoff game in 82 because..shocker..after we went up 14-10 in the 4Q and were inside the Jets 15 again with 11:00 minutes to play Allen fumbled again🤦🏻♂️ brutal
Would like to see that game but I guess its lost to history
@@shanetrimble9265 Tried sending you the link to that Jets game Shane but it keeps friggin erasing it for some reason
@@scottbuono2507 Aww bummer. I check for that game once every month hoping to see it. Thank you for trying.
Tom Flores didn't even have enough class to shake hands with Dan Reeves. Just sulked off the field like a loser.
Where is the classic 1985 game in Los Angeles?
That game was another classic we swept them in 85 after losing two brutal ones in 84..the 85 game in LA was up at one time but got taken down..seems like we get a lot of our classic games taken down for some reason very frustrating..
Put the Gold back into the Silver and Black !
The year before the Raiders had a chance to draft Dan Marino with the 26 pick but let him go to Miami at 27. Earlier in the draft the NFL blocked a trade by the Raiders to get John Elway. Plunkett was old and beat up (almost 37 years old). Marc Wilson was terrible. They could have been a dynasty team.
It definitely would have been something to watch at least early on. It certainly would have solved the ineptitude at the qb position throughout the 80's. At the same time, I could also see Dan Marino and Al Davis butting heads at some point. This would likely lead to some scenario similar to Marcus Allen/Kenny Stabler.
Hated that games turn out,proves how important it was not to over the ball!
Mark Wilson was a JOKE
Why did Wilson throw such a risky pass in his on half so late in OT?
Marc Wilson was horrendous!
antes de que la cbs nbc abc y la misma NFL se hicieran izquierdistas
Marc Wilson stunk on ice
Costly holding penalty on Allen late in the 4th Q. Even costlier fumble on the next play!
Al should have took Marino and he could have had a dynasty
He was committed to Marc Wilson...🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🙄🙄🙄
Lol a Dinasty with Turtle Marino😂😂😂
@@JAWrightonlineal loved marc wilson, largely because he could throw the deep ball beautifully. but he sucked at everything else, and fumbled a LOT
@@juanpabloperez9063 A disaster with disintegrating Wilson. Use more brain power next time.
Only an idiot doesn't kick the game winning FG in OT from the 10 yard line. Didn't the same coaching staff win the SB the year earlier?
Marc Wilson worst quarterback in NFL history
Ryan leaf or jamarcus Russell ring a bell ?
Marc Wilson🤦🏾♂️
Great fake field goal!
The raiders should have won the super bowl again in '84 I mean it would have been a tough game to win with the 49ers in there because that was Joe Montana's best 49er team in '84 they were 15 and 1 but the raiders had a knack of knocking teams like that off like they did the year before when that Redskin team was being called the greatest team of all time they went in there and demolished them