@@ssoffshore5111 I think a lot of the issue lies in people being scared for their safety due to cars being so prominent. The funny thing is though if basically everyone switched there wouldn't really be any cars to worry about. Of course cars will still be useful for hauling big equipment, but if micro mobility was the main form of transportation for people just going to work or school cities would be much nicer to live in.
I could see looking for ways to get out of americas worse 2 cesspool cities of rampart homeless and drug use, but why go back into the same apocolyptic scenery? Go anyway else
@@messagedeleted4307 Problem is that you're not allowed to carry lithium ion batteries on planes, trains, buses etc due to what they consider to be a high risk of fire.
I like it. Took me back to the days when I used only a motorcycle instead of a car. Some of the same advantages and drawbacks. To ride in winter, you needed a snowmobile suit, and that took time to get on and off. Dress wear was limited --- you weren't wearing penny loafers at 20 degrees and 60 mph. Snow was the most challenging, mostly from car drivers. Speeding tickets were all to frequent as the bike would get you from here to there at light speed. Cops don't like light speed. I did become a legend in my motorcycling community --- "Hey, Tracy rides all year!!!" Overall, it took a lot of forethought, preparation and accepting disadvantages. Eventually, I went the lazy route and got a car, despite the drawbacks, just a lot easier and more comfortable. Did one cross-country trip on the bike --- 7000 miles in 14 days. Thanks for the nostalgia. By the way, my motorcycle cost far less than that scooter!!
yes i know i only payed 1000 pounds second hand for my cbr 600 sportsbike lol but i do have more fun on my 2 e,scooters than i do on my cbr6. my scooters are a 30 mph g2 pro and my other one is a solar p1 pro 50 mph
I rode a 1985 Honda Interceptor VF500 as a primary vehicle from 1990 - 2005. I was doing this in rainy Portland Or so eventually I just got tired of all the compromises I had to make. I miss it like I miss other things from the past. Mostly nostalgia I believe.
I have had a motorcycle for 13 years and I can say that driving a car is like dying a little every day. every time I sit in this big square box, I still think of a lost opportunity to be happy on my motorcycle or my scooter. your mistake is to have only one vehicle, you need both, motorcycle and car and the car you will never take, like me...;)
I just wish naked bikes were a bit more affordable. I get sports is basically same with a shell and sometimes same engine. but you don't have to pay for insurance, gas, parking tickets, dmv fees, tags, smog, like man that stuff adds up plus idk anything about motorcycles or have any help so I'd be buying blindly if not at a dealer was hoping one day to own a moto but drivers only care about cars everything else is fair game 20+ points and ppl love running you off the road
I had a Toyota Hilux, it’s parked up at home or my partner uses it sometimes, but I ended up getting a Wolf King GT Pro, and trust me, every ride feels like the first one. So many benefits 😊
I own a 2017 BMW 420i twin turbo but I mainly drive my Wolf King GT, I have racked up about 7500 miles on my Wolf King GT in the span of 1 year and a half of daily commute on my scooter. But yeah, I still need my car for grocery shopping or for rainy days. I still love riding that Wolf King GT because of its torque, speed and its advantages outweigh the disadvantages
I bought an inmotion s1 a few months ago, and it replaced my car for all destinations not requiring the highway or the grocery store. It only tops out at 18.6 mph, but it works well enough for my needs. I typically use it to commute to work, which is around 11 miles round trip. I don't know why I didn't make this decision sooner, especially with the massive gas prices in my area. I do have to leave home earlier for work, though, which is the only downside so far.
I bought the offroad G2 Pro, does 30mph for about 30 miles and that is faster then most of my street speeds. I go to the store/gas station with it alot. Saves on gas in the summer for sure and its fun. 680$ out the door.
genuinely want a future where scooters, mopeds, and trains just replace cars in terms of transportation. Trains for long distant trips, scooters for short.
well thats kinda my situation now. my scooter is basically like citywide public transportation for me and to travel between cities i take a train which, unlike a car, my scooter can go on with me as well. i would also add planes for travel between countries
That's a great vision for the future of transportation! It's amazing how electric scooters and trains can provide efficient and eco-friendly alternatives. Speaking of power, have you heard of the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It's a versatile power source with a whopping 5kWh capacity and fast recharging capabilities. It could definitely come in handy for outdoor adventures or as a backup power solution at home. Check it out if you're interested!
That's a great vision! I also believe that scooters, mopeds, and trains can be great alternatives to cars for short and long-distance travel. Speaking of transportation alternatives, have you heard about the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It's a versatile powerhouse that can keep your devices and appliances running for extended periods, perfect for outdoor enthusiasts like us. It's worth checking out if you're looking for reliable outdoor gear and backup power products.
I got an ebike because you can put a rear rack basket or panniers. Scooters definitely look fun. A backpack isn't great for takeout food where the container sits flat.
We actually have bus bike racks where I live so there definitely not just for city commuting. you can actually expand your commute so much farther than you might think. It just takes a city/county willing to make bikes car replacements.
@@smolbak No protection from the elements. No cargo capacity. Will not be practical outside urban areas which is just a miniscule part of the United States. No passenger capacity so forget transporting a spouse or child. Only a complete green extremist would give this more than an second of consideration in real life.
@@Bland-79 its the same thing as a motor bike so obviously it can't do things like a car But yeah the things I mentionned before almost overpower these small con
I made my own ebike cost under $1000 top speed 28 range 40 mile and it has definitely replaced my car for just nipping around in the day and that looks a great scooter but you really don't need to spend so much to enjoy scooters or ebikes really enjoyed your video mate 👍✌
Great video! I just ordered a Segway F2 pro as my first scooter. At 58 I'm probably a little older than the normal demographic but I recently visited my alma matter (MSU) and walked 4 miles/rented a scooter for 4 miles. I really enjoyed it and I think I can eliminate some car trips which will more than pay for the scooter while having some fun! I work for a major car company so I'll always have a car but scooters are a great last mile solution.
Nice video. I missed you talking about comfort. I have a NIU KWi 3 Max, and after a few days and on long rides, like 15 minutes, the ride quality is a factor. Suspension is so important on scooters, the whole bit, tires, suspensions, arms, coils, etc. I tested drive the Inokim OXO and the Apollo Phantom. It's day and night compared to single motors, not suspension scooters. Phantom is another level.
I price shopped between this and the Apollo Phantom V3, but I think you did a great job laying down the perks of the light heavyweight class of scooters that are available right now. Nice vid!
Living in San Francisco, I know a few people who solely use high powered scooters like this for all their commuting and lifestyle; ditching their car entirely. It makes sense in a dense city that’s only 7mi x 7mi. No need to maintain a car and slip past all traffic. There’s also hundreds of food delivery drivers who use it too. I use an bike myself but this scooter looks like a good “fun” vehicle
for transportation, an electric bike is realistically a better option. It's safer. You can still use it when it runs out of juice. It's less tiring than a scooter in electric mode but can provide more exercise if you decide to pedal. You can carry more. Heck, you can have an attached trailer or a basket. It's easier for other vehicles to see you (you have multiple lights and reflectors in all directions).
It's safer due to the bigger wheels better dealing with any potholes or other obstacles. The steering is far more stable. You will quickly notice on a scooter that it's almost impossible to ride it single handed. Things like scratching your nose get dangerous.
@@Neekowa97621 well, that's kind of obvious. but an electric bike is safer than a motorcycle because you're not bat crazy enough to be going 70mph on an electric bike.
As far as I can tell, the only advantages these scooters have is that they're more compact, and maybe more fun for short trips. But even a cheap e-bike is going to be way more comfortable and practical unless you have an extreme shortage of parking space. Especially the lack of cargo capacity is a serious limitation for these scooters. My home town is decently bike friendly, and I see loads of people commuting by bike with their stuff on cargo racks. And mind you, these are restricted euro spec e-bikes. They're not very fast. They mostly just make it possible to climb hills effortlessly. I can't even remember the last time I saw a non-rideshare e-scooter around here.
I commuted 6 miles 4 days a week on a kaabo mantis pro. Put over 2k miles on it. Got ambitious this past winter and tried riding on studded snow tires. Sadly the snow destroyed it
@@MikeOBrienMedia it did fine in the couple storms I ran in 3-4 inches of snow. The studs instilled confidence for sure as sidewalks were icy. None of these scooters can handle moisture unfortunately. A company like Segway with with their better build quality I’m sure could create one
i love how this was simultaneously a really concise review, but also a great discussion of how the average person could benefit from one. High quality content!
Thank you for your kind words! I completely agree with you - the video was not only a concise review of the electric scooter, but also highlighted how it could benefit the average person. Speaking of outdoor gear, have you heard about the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It's a versatile powerhouse that can keep your devices and appliances running for extended periods. Great for camping or ensuring quality family time during power outages. Check it out!
although the GT2 is a large scooter I still feel like it is capable to be brought inside many locations, I always bring my scooter inside if possible as I just don't trust locking it outside for long periods of time even though I have a good quality lock
I recently vacationed in Myrtle Beach SC. Those Bad Boys were everywhere. Not only are they fast, But they get in and out of tight area with ease. If I lived in a City area , I'd definitely get one. At one point I was cruising at 15 mph and this dude passed me at around 35 mph. Later when I caught up to him . I found out he was one his way to work. These could easily replace a car in the right environment. Imagine living in a city where you have to pay for parking. this could save you hundreds a year. Hundred on having to fill the car every week or so.
Great video! I would love to use one as a car replacement in the summer. Electric scooters are becoming more and more popular in NYC every single day and I think most people are using U-locks between the fork and the deck. There is a proper way to do it, I’m just not entirely sure how. I haven’t heard of a lot of them getting stolen.
@@Panda_J1 That is excellent! I see them in NYC all the time and always think that I should be doing the same. Glad to hear some positive feedback on commuting in NYC on nice days.
Thx for the vid. Yes, there are plenty of options for the lock and or load touch alarms, so locking is not an issue. I use one that is more for off road, yet have summer tyres on atm, so super quiet. My horn is load, yet only works when it´s not needed! I own a car and a scooter too, yet noticed that there can be twice as many problems or events that pop up while using these, as you hop off curbs or find gravel on park path corners etc. I think that they can easily replace a car and you save so much that way, that you can afford to hire a car if you need one. Finally, they are a wonderful way to experience the world and by far the most fun I have had on two wheels.
The problem as a scooter owner is that the safety on a scooter is so much worse than any other form of transportation that when you do fall, expect the absolute worse especially since you can end up going 30 to 40 miles or even more downhill and you're always one bad crack or rock from broken bones.
At this price point, for 95% of people it's going to make way more sense to get an e-bike if they actually want to do serious commuting on it. Can actually be locked, more range, more comfort, stable handling, more traction, more braking power, ability to swap for winter tyres, rack mounts for groceries and even larger boxes. Ebikes use mostly standardized aftermarket components, which includes batteries and motors, so they're more sustainable. Most also have the option for off-bike charging. At the end of the day, it's way more practical and a better investment.
Just to put it into perspective, Gogoro are the best selling scooters in Taiwan. Gogoro Delight costs about 4,783 usd, can go up to 90kph, can go 100 km on a single charge AND has subscription battery changing stations all over Taiwan, so in theory you can drive 100 km, change the battery and go another 100 km, good luck doing that with a Segway :-)
I'm running a VDM-10 right now (apollo ghost) with 2k watts and this is kinda my dream scooter if I ever sell my car, it seems way more durable than most scooters and the display and controls are just so much better. the VDM-10 gets me to work 18km each way though which is quite impressive, it can hit 60km/h on slight downhill and gets about the same 50mi range.
bravo for wearing a helmet in your videos! lots of people don't think helmets are cool, but being brain damaged is waaay less cool, so thank you for the positive influence you're putting out there!
I reckon an E-scooter would be a very useful way to get around in the northeast of the USA, a European country or in general any country that has functional public transit. One that lives a bit too far from a train station to walk can buy an E-scooter and get to/from said station much more quickly than walking. They can then take the scooter on the train with them and use it at their destination
European countries would be great for these, being that you more or less can get to anything you want within just a few miles, but I don't know what the rules are in European countries when it comes to e-scooters, each will likely have their own and maybe some cities might have different rules then other cities and honestly, for me in European countries, it could replace my car. I will say one thing, I wouldn't want to be doing 40mph on these things, 20mph would be fine for me as I think 40mph would is going to be much easier to have an accident, especially if you're having an off day and not concentrating, whereas 20mph is fast enough for local commute, especially in European countries and if you do have an accident at those speeds, the impact would be far less than at 40mph.
@@paul1979uk2000 The English town that my uncle & aunt live in has a private escooter ban in place apparently. BUT, they allow the rideshare escooters... *cough* corruption *cough*
Here's my own experience to share too: I have a Synergy City Elite scooter I got for $1300 CAD plus tax....not nearly as high grade as yours.....but it does 40kph (25mph I think?). Work for me is 16km away, but 95% of it is bike path along major roads with many street crossings. I took my scooter to work 4 of 5 days this week, and it saved me an estimated $25 CAD in gas. On a good day, my car ride is 20-25 min with highway.....my absolute record on the scooter with lots of green lights is 36 min (max 50min on a bad day). Considering I can ride it even in light rain, that's not a bad investment. I've got about 1500km on my ODO so far. One major difference though, is because 40kph is the fastest I will ever go (same as my bike), I use a bicycle helmet and no extra gear.....not fast enough to justify it (takes a while to reach 40 and I rarely stay there for long). My scooter is also much easier to lock up, and has an amazing electric horn. Considering how advanced yours seems, I'm surprised by your beep. So it's important to note, that a scooter can be even more viable than expressed in your video! The only thing that scares me now is changing laws surrounding them becoming more restrictive. There comes a point where a scooter's cost becomes too expensive to ever expect a ROI. Mine would take me 7500km of travel to/from work to pay itself off wiht Toronto gas prices (not counting pleasure trips).
Definitely does great on hills, but I’m surprised it comes with such small wheels and tires. The Varla we just reviewed has the perfect tire size for a scooter like this IMO Cheers
Elaborate please, I think this one has 11inch tires vs 10 inch on the eagle. Seems OK to me, but on Chinese sites you can even find 14inch big tires scooter too :o
I love EUC and I only take the car if it rains or stuff is to much to carry. I have an electric Renault Kangoo with less range than my (EUC) monowheel Sherman I daily. I also have to charge my car over 500 meters away from home (total pain). Between owning 2 cars, a motorcycle, an electric skateboard and 2 mono wheels; I absolutely love driving/riding my Sherman the most. Never stuck in traffic, not any bigger than my shoulder width you can take it pretty much anywhere. It's also great fun driving RC cars while chasing it, much better than walking and running.
Since you asked for feedback - 6:21 - I am LOYAL to my ebike, literally use it on the daily and commute back and forth to work with it every day... Just about the only thing I don't use it for is groceries and aside from that it has basically replaced my car. This being said, that boost mode was AWESOME. My ebike only tops out at 28mph and that's with full PAS and peddling pretty decently, it's literally impossible for me to get up to 40-ish MPH without just going straight down hill (though I don't think I'd want to).
What about fast charging? That is something that would extend the usable range and make a HUGE difference in usability. Usually a feature these scooters lack, but you'd think a $4000 one would offer it, right?!
A coworker bought a scooter to ride to the parking garage. He had a simple fall, ended up in coma and died. He was in his 50's, in decent shape, but not an athlete. It's incredible how our reflexes and muscles degrade with time, so be careful!
We actually have bus bike racks where I live so e bikes/scooters are definitely not just for city commuting. you can actually expand your commute so much farther than you might think. It just takes a city/county willing to make bikes car replacements.
I considered something like this instead of a motorbike upgrade, the issue for me is being able to take a passenger, if it wasn’t for this I already ride daily in the rain which I don’t mind at all. The biggest issue though is they are not legal in the UK ☹️ P.S. "just going off to meet someone, obviously safety first (hold helmet up)" next clip shows him in shorts cruising round a corner 🤣
Hmmm... let me think- rain, snow, fog, low-light, low-visibility, hazard in vehicular traffic, fatigue, injury, hazard to pedestrians, hazard to rider, road hazards, etc.
These bikes aren’t legal in uk? Damn, I was hoping to bring mine over to travel without paying huge fees; what do people in uk use as alternative then?
@@bobswolfie2001 I see a few people early morning when there are no coppers around using them and then faking a push when they need to. Most people use public transport or a moped.
Everything fun is banned in the uk all our e bikes are supposed to be limited to 15.5mph . Plenty of people ignore this and as long as you aren't a total idiot cops pretty much turn a blind eye. We don't have scooters as powerful as this though. @@bobswolfie2001
Believe me, it is incredible. Once I add the Hitch to tow my boat to the cottage, it was all I never needed from then on. On top of that, often when on the scooter, music suddenly starts. It's sort of like cheap music that you would hear in elevators in the old days. Where it comes form, I do not know. LOL
Thanks for a honest review of this scooter. Its Definitely in competing with the other beast scooters but i feel it misses the mark with things that matter to me. Im more of a RT/10 Viper guy. No frills. Just give me the power!
The biggest advantage is parking and you are not sitting 16 hours/day, the disadvantage is whetaher and long distance travel If I'm rich enough to have this kinda option, I would
To lock up scooters, i really recommend small u-locks like the fahgettaboutit. While they have obvious disadvantages with bikes, they are great for scooters because they enable you to use the whole handle stem to lock it, because you really cant move it above the handlebar.
How are the speed-wobbles if you let go of one hand grip? The one and only e-scooter I ever used alarmed the heck out of me when I let go of a grip at about 15mph...the front wheel went into a crazy speed-wobble.
I drove a car from 17 years of age to 60. Then I got rid of my car. I was shocked how much I did not miss it in my life. Yes I live in a capital city. But for every day life it was easier, quicker and more convenient
You forgot to mention that it's better for the environment than a vehicle. Savings on fuel, insurance.....and fun to ride. Faster to get around than being stuck in traffic.
in Amsterdam, they have these little metal ramps against the wall or edge of stairwells up bridges etc so that cyclists can wheel their bicycles easily up and down the stairwells beside them as they walk up the steps, so easy and brilliant, and we have nothing like that here in England, but, yeah, would be a useful thing for cyclists and scooter riders in the USA too.
I can tell you, I live in the Netherlands, and I use my M365 scooter, which cost about $400, to get to the train station and back when I don't feel like cycling. It is not very fast, which is fine with me, and weighs about 12kg so easy to pick up and carry. It is relatively small and MUCH easier to take with on the train or bus, than a bicycle. This is useful for the situations where I need to cover a few km to get to my final destination, after getting off the train (saves me having to take the bus and I am on my own schedule)
Is it not possible to get a U-lock around the neck behind the front fork/stem? Maybe if you angle it upward if you can't fit it through horizontally, and a bit diagonally to get it around a bike rack or something. There are different size U-locks that may be wide and long enough. Or go with something like an Abus Bordo for a flexible and narrow lock.
Thank you for this excellent overview and I appreciate your emphasis on safety, something that is often simply overlooked in other scooter reviews. This looks like a great product and is now $2999 (maybe because of Black Friday or something). I have decided to wait until the spring, when the weather is again conducive (and hopefully I have a job again) before getting one of these. For a while I was considering a traditional motor scooter, Vespa style, but now I'm leaning toward an electric vehicle of some sort, seated or standing.
hesitate a lot between the segway gt2 and the segway ps100.. I don't know which one to choose....? currently I have a ninebot max 30 that I really like, I take it everywhere I go, doctor, grocery store, business. I enter inside all the establishments where I go. which one do you recommend sgt2 or ps100..?
Most of the time, I was able to string a bike lock through some fence and wrap it around the stem a bunch of times. Not impossible to get off, but extremely difficult. I never left it outside for more than 10 or 15 minutes
So I commute to work and do all my shopping on my Zero 9 - it folds down and weighs 18kg so I can carry it into stores one handed to avoid the locking/theft problems, and it’s powerful enough to get me where I need to go. Riding in the wet is safe if you know what you’re doing and maintain your scooter. We don’t get snow where I am! It’s entirely replaced the need for a car for me. So yes a scooter can replace a car, for some people.
The thing about electric stuff is that I'm always worried that if the company flops, or if they release a new different model, or something along those lines, what are you going to do with batteries? It's not like an engine where you can just go to O'Reilly's and buy some parts for these things once it's gone it's gone, and that's what I fear about all electric vehicles moving forward. O'Reilly's stocking Tesla batteries when :p I fear this might actually be worse for the environment rather than better if we end up in the future we're buying a car is disposable or designing the vehicle in such a manner were any non-authorized batteries brick the car. Vehicle ownership will be a thing of the past, mark my words.
If you know the number of cells, voltage and amerage, you can literally just solder you own battery(or have a new battery made by a company according to spec). It's expensive, but there's options.
I live in the suburbs of Chicago and I have to travel into the city quite often. My scooter has changed the way I do that for the better. I'm able to park my car in a nice secure parking garage when I get downtown and then scooter around. I can scooter to various destinations without having to worry about finding another parking spot and paying again for parking, getting stuck in traffic, and overall it's a lot more fun and low stress than driving through the city.
This was one of the highest quality best produced video reviews! I don't know how you do it. I live in Boise, Idaho and can scoot just about anywhere anytime of year on my dual motor Segway Ninebot. It accelerates fast, climbs well, and it's easy to lock. And cost way south of $1k! 20 MPH is fast enough downtown but wouldn't mind 40-plus for long open country road rides or trails. Segway is reliable as well. I would have liked more time devoted to off-road capabilities! Thanks!! Mort
the one thing I've seen no one mention. be ready for ALOT of wind. and wind effects the mileage as well. idk why I DIDNT even think about it till I was on my scooter. you feel it alot. treat it like a moto.
Would a U-Lock on the stem attached to a pole or bike rack not work? Should be narrow enough that you couldn't get it out of that without severely damaging the handlebars or stem
At almost 6'5" the biggest issue I have with so many electric scooters is the handlebar height. To me ideally would be the ability to have the stemp as high as 46 inches from the deck and the option for a seat.
I have a Segway Ninebot. I totally agree; so much fun to ride but Segway seems to have a problem designing their scooters to be lockable. Just like the GT, my Ninebot can’t really be locked when you take it out. There’s a brake locking system built into the Ninebot, but a determined thief can still steal it. Does the GT have a similar locking system? I don’t think you showed whether or not the GT can fold or disclosed exactly how much it weighs. Where have you purchased it from? I would get this scooter if I could solve the security issue and if it comes down a bit in price.
In USA, all this is just until govt starts trying to regulate the things like they did with gas-powered scooters and microbikes. Then you won’t be able to ride certain places (walk/bike paths or even on-road) or you’ll need full insurance/licensure so govt can collect its “pound of flesh” in fees. These will turn into big paperweights like the gas powered versions for those people who hoped to use them as alternative transportation.
Can you register it as motorcycle and get insurance on that? For example in Estonia all scooters above 1kw and faster than 25Km/h are not escooters, but they can not be registered as motorcycles, becsuse they do not fit for all the requirements given to motorcycle. So you can not register, insure, get drivers license on that.
I just bought a Segway Max G2 and I love I only use solar energy for charging it. A 100 watt portable solar panel charge my scooter every day and that simple action adds even more satisfaction ☀❤
as a current scooter owner, i really think they are useful, reliable, and fun. I always take it when im going to football training, the mall, language classes, or even just for fun. tbh if you are living in abu dhabi, a scooter is all you need because everything is with in a 10km range (if you live in reem island or close to abu dhabi mall).
idunno... going 70 km/h on a thingy with tires that small, no way of protecting my self, where just a little bump can make me fly... id rather have an actual scooter, where i can sit and relax, not feel every hole in the road, and maybe witha little storage under the seat, even just to have a place to put my helmet after i park it. also u can lock a scooter. might not be electric but surely has less impact on the environemt than these SUVs that people seem to enjoy so much althought they cant drive the thing.
As someone who really doesn't like cars, I have been using e-scooters as my primary mode of commuting and tasks for years now. Works fairly well even in the cold north (only heavy snowfall really places some obstacles, but in those days I'll just take public transit)
What's stopping you jerry rigging a milk crate on the back? Not on the wheel because of suspension but make some kind of bracket to attach to the board
What kind of lock? I seen some interesting handliffs style ones you the HB shaft and the center pole of a bike rack… surprised for 4k they don’t have a key ignition system; hopefully there’s gps tracking in the scooter
You can get an ebike with a mid drive bosch motor. all-terrain tires with fenders for all weather usage, panniers racks and baskets for cargo, you can lock it digitally, dutch lock or NYC style U-lock, can go up hills if you know how to use gears on a bike, 90 miles of range, 28mph pedal assist is fast enough
There are these hiking carts (for people with back issues etc) that strap toa person witha harness and then they walk while their gear rolls behind them. I wonder if one could work strapped to a person on an e-scooter.
During summer, rental scooters are my primary way of transportation most of the year except winter and I can confirm those being very convenient. I buy an yearly pass which will give me free unlocks, so you only pay per minute and since I can utilize biking shortcuts the travel time is very short. During winter, buses are the most convenient here (in Finland), because of dedicated bus lines and soon public transportation traffic light priority.
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the Honda Grom or Honda Navi. 100mpg. Grom is similarly priced to the GT2 but more power. The Navi is half the price with more power. You might be limited on the bike trail riding but you can lock these up. And I don't think you can bring it into your office at work but maybe it depends on where you work...
The Navi is great. The cost of the vehicle is literally significantly less than 2 month of parking and minimal coverage liability insurance for my car (I am 26 I refuse to pay for the insurance of my RAV4 sitting in my garage unless I absolutely need it until my premium goes down. Yes, i've shopped around ,and no I am not on my parent's insurance). Since there is more good than bad i'll just list the downsides. - you need to spend 6 month on getting a license especially if your local dmv is a pain in the ass. -Liability insurance is nearly 1/3 the cost of the vehicle a year. -DMV appointment in any city is reverse customer service particularly if you need them for anything. However you do need to go to the dmv on average once a year.(generally ruins your mood for the day or wipes you out) -I lost my key replacing it was a insanely difficult cost me 800 dollars and a 2 days of my life (i needed to ship the bike and myself into another state because they need me to be present and to prove I own the bike). The key replacement and the process alone was almost the cost of a new Navi (if getting one was a little less painful, my dealership didn't charge a premium and the local used market wasn't inflated) - Don't underestimate the cost of time. IF you live in a environment where mini moto is viable option over lets say a nc700 or a car chances are you live in a city where you can by a navi with less than one week of post tax income. If you dumped 3 days worth of time like me you basically lost more than half the cost of the navi with your time alone. - Naturally I live in NYC so my experiences are based off of that but even so the speed limit on a grom isn't enough for you to travel between boroughs. - thieves generally aim for bikes under 400cc due to weight so unless you want to actively ruin your monthly insurance rate beware (assuming you even get full coverage). edit: - lastly decent mechanics even with cutthroat rates are hard to come by unless you own a harley or indian.
It can be considered as a complementary vehicle. Thats what i do with mix of scooter and underground metro. I have to fold often though but save 25% of my commuting time . It could also put in the trunk, so car for the long commuting part and then scooter for the short part to avoid having to park in busy area
1:56 he just leaves it outside in this video. Reality: that will get stolen lmao. We got some E-scooters as well and nobody in their right mind will leave it like that. An E-bike can be locked up but usually Escooters can't.
I used my Mi 365 as my daily driver. Used it to go to work, go to school, go shopping. Had to charge it pretty often. But no tolls, no queues, no parking fees and cheap to charge
My Meepo Hurricane electric longboard gets me around town day to day and some weeks I don't use my car at all. Long 10 mile treks sometimes on a skateboard! A huge 40L backpack and backup tools and spare parts keeps me from putting gas in my car all the time. In LA I don't have to worry about parking and I take the board inside with me so I don't even have to worry about it getting stolen. I have over 16,000 miles across my Boosted Board, Evolve GT and now the Meepo Hurricane.
Could you make a similar video reviewing ebikes? It possible specifically the Velotric Go1 or Packer 1 since you mentioend going to the grocery store and dropping off packages snd it hss space for that at cheaper price than the scooter.
I can say I did the same. I had a Chevy Cobalt SS, and the motor locked up. I bought a mountain bike. Someone stole it. I replaced it with an aovoPRO electric scooter. The only problem on long trips is that you get tired of standing. I tie wrapped a tote to mine for grocery shopping. The strap unsnaps for pleasure riding removing the bag part. I use the side pockets for carrying tools.
As someone who is married with currently one car for the home, the 3 scooters I own have replaced my truck for 3 years now as a daily commute of 16 miles a day. The one thing this and all other reviews won’t explain to you is that the maintenance situation with scooters is REAL. You WILL be working on them semi-frequently and you MUST love to tinker. All kinds of home maintenance and service will be required unless you live right next to an approved service shop (which 99% of the time this isn’t the case). So you BETTER be willing to set up a small shop area in your garage or apartment that holds the various tools that you WILL end up purchasing to make your self service life easier. And finally, all scooters are somewhat similar in how internally accessible they are for said service….except for this one. The segway GT2, while being well built, is a convoluted tucked away jigsaw puzzle that will add MUCH extra time compared to other brands. I would DEFINITELY not choose this one based on its overall cost and maintenance headache. Reviewers do not live with scooters long enough to share what I feel is the most important part of being a scooter enthusiast and commuter.
No way to physically lock a $4000 scooter?? Oh Segway... 🤦
Yeah I was hoping for a nice way to lock it
Boobie traps are your only way lol.
Agree lol. Needs a dedicated U-lock or chains
Hire a big baba to watch it. Lol.
Also you can brick it like a phone if it gets stolen
Its down to 3099 with his coupon
the world would genuinely be so much better if commuting and general transportation didn't require 2 tons of metal that gets stuck in traffic all day
Agreed, but getting the masses to buy into one of these is a hard sell!
@@ssoffshore5111 I think a lot of the issue lies in people being scared for their safety due to cars being so prominent. The funny thing is though if basically everyone switched there wouldn't really be any cars to worry about. Of course cars will still be useful for hauling big equipment, but if micro mobility was the main form of transportation for people just going to work or school cities would be much nicer to live in.
@@spartankittygames I don't disagree. That and the masses want their comfort...
Well, most of the world does not require 2 tons. That is just the US and several other countries.
I don't think we would see 55+ age people on these... even if the general population switch over from cars.
Please make a video where you travel from NYC to LA in this scooter
2 likes from a verified account wth
Who the hell would make that drive...with the money you save from owning this, you can buy a plane ticket with this scooter as luggage.
I could see looking for ways to get out of americas worse 2 cesspool cities of rampart homeless and drug use, but why go back into the same apocolyptic scenery? Go anyway else
@@messagedeleted4307 Problem is that you're not allowed to carry lithium ion batteries on planes, trains, buses etc due to what they consider to be a high risk of fire.
@@srobeck77 ohhh... you purple coolaid drinking naive sheep... god bless you
I like it. Took me back to the days when I used only a motorcycle instead of a car. Some of the same advantages and drawbacks. To ride in winter, you needed a snowmobile suit, and that took time to get on and off. Dress wear was limited --- you weren't wearing penny loafers at 20 degrees and 60 mph. Snow was the most challenging, mostly from car drivers. Speeding tickets were all to frequent as the bike would get you from here to there at light speed. Cops don't like light speed. I did become a legend in my motorcycling community --- "Hey, Tracy rides all year!!!" Overall, it took a lot of forethought, preparation and accepting disadvantages. Eventually, I went the lazy route and got a car, despite the drawbacks, just a lot easier and more comfortable. Did one cross-country trip on the bike --- 7000 miles in 14 days. Thanks for the nostalgia. By the way, my motorcycle cost far less than that scooter!!
yes i know i only payed 1000 pounds second hand for my cbr 600 sportsbike lol but i do have more fun on my 2 e,scooters than i do on my cbr6. my scooters are a 30 mph g2 pro and my other one is a solar p1 pro 50 mph
I rode a 1985 Honda Interceptor VF500 as a primary vehicle from 1990 - 2005. I was doing this in rainy Portland Or so eventually I just got tired of all the compromises I had to make. I miss it like I miss other things from the past. Mostly nostalgia I believe.
@@dupre7416 Exactly!!!
I have had a motorcycle for 13 years and I can say that driving a car is like dying a little every day. every time I sit in this big square box, I still think of a lost opportunity to be happy on my motorcycle or my scooter. your mistake is to have only one vehicle, you need both, motorcycle and car and the car you will never take, like me...;)
I just wish naked bikes were a bit more affordable. I get sports is basically same with a shell and sometimes same engine. but you don't have to pay for insurance, gas, parking tickets, dmv fees, tags, smog, like man that stuff adds up plus idk anything about motorcycles or have any help so I'd be buying blindly if not at a dealer was hoping one day to own a moto but drivers only care about cars everything else is fair game 20+ points and ppl love running you off the road
I had a Toyota Hilux, it’s parked up at home or my partner uses it sometimes, but I ended up getting a Wolf King GT Pro, and trust me, every ride feels like the first one. So many benefits 😊
Internet trust me guy hahahaha
Lol I have a Hilux and a VSETT 10 Scooter... I use the vehicles alot less but I need both.
I own a 2017 BMW 420i twin turbo but I mainly drive my Wolf King GT, I have racked up about 7500 miles on my Wolf King GT in the span of 1 year and a half of daily commute on my scooter. But yeah, I still need my car for grocery shopping or for rainy days. I still love riding that Wolf King GT because of its torque, speed and its advantages outweigh the disadvantages
Yeah oookkk guys I actually have a Ferrari but drive around with my scooter.
@@loveaintfree1409if you had a wolf king gt, you'd know
I bought an inmotion s1 a few months ago, and it replaced my car for all destinations not requiring the highway or the grocery store. It only tops out at 18.6 mph, but it works well enough for my needs. I typically use it to commute to work, which is around 11 miles round trip. I don't know why I didn't make this decision sooner, especially with the massive gas prices in my area. I do have to leave home earlier for work, though, which is the only downside so far.
I bought the offroad G2 Pro, does 30mph for about 30 miles and that is faster then most of my street speeds. I go to the store/gas station with it alot. Saves on gas in the summer for sure and its fun. 680$ out the door.
Gas is boutta be cheap af again. Dont fret, Daddy is home.
genuinely want a future where scooters, mopeds, and trains just replace cars in terms of transportation. Trains for long distant trips, scooters for short.
well thats kinda my situation now. my scooter is basically like citywide public transportation for me and to travel between cities i take a train which, unlike a car, my scooter can go on with me as well. i would also add planes for travel between countries
That’s dumb maybe only in cities but you obviously haven’t lived in the country
That's a great vision for the future of transportation! It's amazing how electric scooters and trains can provide efficient and eco-friendly alternatives. Speaking of power, have you heard of the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It's a versatile power source with a whopping 5kWh capacity and fast recharging capabilities. It could definitely come in handy for outdoor adventures or as a backup power solution at home. Check it out if you're interested!
That's a great vision! I also believe that scooters, mopeds, and trains can be great alternatives to cars for short and long-distance travel. Speaking of transportation alternatives, have you heard about the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It's a versatile powerhouse that can keep your devices and appliances running for extended periods, perfect for outdoor enthusiasts like us. It's worth checking out if you're looking for reliable outdoor gear and backup power products.
These are all over the U-Mass Amherst campus. But I've literally never seen one in my small, suburban town west of Boston.
A comparision between E-Scooters and E-Bikes can be a great future video, considering both can't replace cars but are great for city commute.
Good idea! I may make that someday
I got an ebike because you can put a rear rack basket or panniers. Scooters definitely look fun. A backpack isn't great for takeout food where the container sits flat.
my scooter replaces 90% of my commuting, happy to own one.
@@moralhazard2563 What kind of madness is this? I just looked it up and didn't know this existed. I may have to look into this now.
We actually have bus bike racks where I live so there definitely not just for city commuting. you can actually expand your commute so much farther than you might think. It just takes a city/county willing to make bikes car replacements.
My opinion: Scooters are nice for getting around urban areas, but there's just no way I'd spend $3800 on one.
I mean Cost less, faster on short distance, less repair to do
@@smolbak No protection from the elements. No cargo capacity. Will not be practical outside urban areas which is just a miniscule part of the United States. No passenger capacity so forget transporting a spouse or child. Only a complete green extremist would give this more than an second of consideration in real life.
@@Bland-79 its the same thing as a motor bike so obviously it can't do things like a car
But yeah the things I mentionned before almost overpower these small con
@@Bland-79 If you are living downtown or a major dense city like new york, phily, or Chicogo a scooter makes way more sense
@Smol bak Not even close to a motorcycle. Not the speed or capacity and definitely not street legal in most places.
I made my own ebike cost under $1000 top speed 28 range 40 mile and it has definitely replaced my car for just nipping around in the day and that looks a great scooter but you really don't need to spend so much to enjoy scooters or ebikes really enjoyed your video mate 👍✌
@Tron Kitten hi I used a Scott mountain bike and a 1000w hub motor kit with a 48v 24ah battery ✌
@aMiFiii nice that sounds quite cool don't see many of them around 👍
His scooter is absurdly expensive. You can buy a pretty good one for $700.
Yeah but you can’t take into a grocery store/coffee shop etc. scooter you can take anywhere
@@Wavelover33 you can also make a scooter with those same specs for 1000 dollars
Great video! I just ordered a Segway F2 pro as my first scooter. At 58 I'm probably a little older than the normal demographic but I recently visited my alma matter (MSU) and walked 4 miles/rented a scooter for 4 miles. I really enjoyed it and I think I can eliminate some car trips which will more than pay for the scooter while having some fun! I work for a major car company so I'll always have a car but scooters are a great last mile solution.
Hey, old timer. You're the same as me. I just bought a beast for the wife, but I think I use it more than she does😆
So much fun.
f2 pro is so good man !!
Nice video. I missed you talking about comfort. I have a NIU KWi 3 Max, and after a few days and on long rides, like 15 minutes, the ride quality is a factor. Suspension is so important on scooters, the whole bit, tires, suspensions, arms, coils, etc. I tested drive the Inokim OXO and the Apollo Phantom. It's day and night compared to single motors, not suspension scooters. Phantom is another level.
You also missed the folding part and taking the scooter inside places, size, weight part...
Add to that age of the person, how about 65 years old commuting like that to work.
I price shopped between this and the Apollo Phantom V3, but I think you did a great job laying down the perks of the light heavyweight class of scooters that are available right now. Nice vid!
Did you see the new Pro that's coming out soon?
@@ShardstapoRotmg I did, but it's a different price point than what I was after. It looks awesome, though.
This $4000 scooter sounds like a 💩$200 escooter!! The back mudguard rattles very loud!!! 🤪👎👎
@@aaronbearchi I see, I have an apollo ghost and I absolutely love it. It's still amazing after more than 1000 miles.
@@8_x_9.I farted loud
Living in San Francisco, I know a few people who solely use high powered scooters like this for all their commuting and lifestyle; ditching their car entirely. It makes sense in a dense city that’s only 7mi x 7mi. No need to maintain a car and slip past all traffic. There’s also hundreds of food delivery drivers who use it too. I use an bike myself but this scooter looks like a good “fun” vehicle
for transportation, an electric bike is realistically a better option. It's safer. You can still use it when it runs out of juice. It's less tiring than a scooter in electric mode but can provide more exercise if you decide to pedal. You can carry more. Heck, you can have an attached trailer or a basket. It's easier for other vehicles to see you (you have multiple lights and reflectors in all directions).
It's safer due to the bigger wheels better dealing with any potholes or other obstacles. The steering is far more stable. You will quickly notice on a scooter that it's almost impossible to ride it single handed. Things like scratching your nose get dangerous.
@@Neekowa97621 well, that's kind of obvious. but an electric bike is safer than a motorcycle because you're not bat crazy enough to be going 70mph on an electric bike.
As far as I can tell, the only advantages these scooters have is that they're more compact, and maybe more fun for short trips. But even a cheap e-bike is going to be way more comfortable and practical unless you have an extreme shortage of parking space. Especially the lack of cargo capacity is a serious limitation for these scooters. My home town is decently bike friendly, and I see loads of people commuting by bike with their stuff on cargo racks. And mind you, these are restricted euro spec e-bikes. They're not very fast. They mostly just make it possible to climb hills effortlessly.
I can't even remember the last time I saw a non-rideshare e-scooter around here.
You can't leave E bikes anywhere without being stole.
@@onlysublimeWell an electric bike shouldn't go that fast and if it does that like a moped it would require a motorcycle license
I commuted 6 miles 4 days a week on a kaabo mantis pro. Put over 2k miles on it. Got ambitious this past winter and tried riding on studded snow tires. Sadly the snow destroyed it
Wow I can't believe you tried that. Besides destroying the scooter, did it work? Were you able to ride in the snow without crashing?
How did the snow destroy it? That scooter is meant to take an off-road beating.
@@MikeOBrienMedia it did fine in the couple storms I ran in 3-4 inches of snow. The studs instilled confidence for sure as sidewalks were icy. None of these scooters can handle moisture unfortunately. A company like Segway with with their better build quality I’m sure could create one
@@messagedeleted4307 snow melt on the deck from wet feet. No scooter deck is close to sealed from the elements
@@Ww8.3 okay so the water basically dried the battery and internals. Do you plan on buying another scooter, is it worth it?
i love how this was simultaneously a really concise review, but also a great discussion of how the average person could benefit from one. High quality content!
Thank you for your kind words! I completely agree with you - the video was not only a concise review of the electric scooter, but also highlighted how it could benefit the average person. Speaking of outdoor gear, have you heard about the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It's a versatile powerhouse that can keep your devices and appliances running for extended periods. Great for camping or ensuring quality family time during power outages. Check it out!
@@ErvigHenry I think he was talking about Mike O'Brien, not you.
although the GT2 is a large scooter I still feel like it is capable to be brought inside many locations, I always bring my scooter inside if possible as I just don't trust locking it outside for long periods of time even though I have a good quality lock
Hey Mike, thanks for taking us on your ride along. It was pretty fun. I would definitely consider a scooter like this one.
I recently vacationed in Myrtle Beach SC. Those Bad Boys were everywhere. Not only are they fast, But they get in and out of tight area with ease. If I lived in a City area , I'd definitely get one. At one point I was cruising at 15 mph and this dude passed me at around 35 mph. Later when I caught up to him . I found out he was one his way to work. These could easily replace a car in the right environment.
Imagine living in a city where you have to pay for parking. this could save you hundreds a year.
Hundred on having to fill the car every week or so.
Great video! I would love to use one as a car replacement in the summer. Electric scooters are becoming more and more popular in NYC every single day and I think most people are using U-locks between the fork and the deck. There is a proper way to do it, I’m just not entirely sure how. I haven’t heard of a lot of them getting stolen.
I live in nyc and it has replaced taking the train to get to work for 2 summers now. Best decision I ever did
@@Panda_J1 That is excellent! I see them in NYC all the time and always think that I should be doing the same. Glad to hear some positive feedback on commuting in NYC on nice days.
Thx for the vid. Yes, there are plenty of options for the lock and or load touch alarms, so locking is not an issue.
I use one that is more for off road, yet have summer tyres on atm, so super quiet.
My horn is load, yet only works when it´s not needed! I own a car and a scooter too, yet noticed that there can be twice as many problems or events
that pop up while using these, as you hop off curbs or find gravel on park path corners etc.
I think that they can easily replace a car and you save so much that way, that you can afford to hire a car if you need one.
Finally, they are a wonderful way to experience the world and by far the most fun I have had on two wheels.
The problem as a scooter owner is that the safety on a scooter is so much worse than any other form of transportation that when you do fall, expect the absolute worse especially since you can end up going 30 to 40 miles or even more downhill and you're always one bad crack or rock from broken bones.
yeah i feel the wheels being so small compared to even a motorcycle would make small rocks terrifying
Just hop over the pot hole…
Simply put riding an eBike is much safer. EScooters are less safe overall.
At this price point, for 95% of people it's going to make way more sense to get an e-bike if they actually want to do serious commuting on it. Can actually be locked, more range, more comfort, stable handling, more traction, more braking power, ability to swap for winter tyres, rack mounts for groceries and even larger boxes. Ebikes use mostly standardized aftermarket components, which includes batteries and motors, so they're more sustainable. Most also have the option for off-bike charging. At the end of the day, it's way more practical and a better investment.
I got rid of my car and use ebikes and escooter, best decision I ever made, fun as heck, no more traffic, car payments, gas, insurance etc
What if u need to go to a far place… a car is way more important than electric scooters/bikes…
Just get a cheap electric car
@ no electric car is cheap unless the battery is about to go then its worthless
Just to put it into perspective, Gogoro are the best selling scooters in Taiwan. Gogoro Delight costs about 4,783 usd, can go up to 90kph, can go 100 km on a single charge AND has subscription battery changing stations all over Taiwan, so in theory you can drive 100 km, change the battery and go another 100 km, good luck doing that with a Segway :-)
Oh and it has space for luggage under the seat
I'm running a VDM-10 right now (apollo ghost) with 2k watts and this is kinda my dream scooter if I ever sell my car, it seems way more durable than most scooters and the display and controls are just so much better. the VDM-10 gets me to work 18km each way though which is quite impressive, it can hit 60km/h on slight downhill and gets about the same 50mi range.
bravo for wearing a helmet in your videos! lots of people don't think helmets are cool,
but being brain damaged is waaay less cool, so thank you for the positive influence you're putting out there!
I reckon an E-scooter would be a very useful way to get around in the northeast of the USA, a European country or in general any country that has functional public transit. One that lives a bit too far from a train station to walk can buy an E-scooter and get to/from said station much more quickly than walking. They can then take the scooter on the train with them and use it at their destination
European countries would be great for these, being that you more or less can get to anything you want within just a few miles, but I don't know what the rules are in European countries when it comes to e-scooters, each will likely have their own and maybe some cities might have different rules then other cities and honestly, for me in European countries, it could replace my car.
I will say one thing, I wouldn't want to be doing 40mph on these things, 20mph would be fine for me as I think 40mph would is going to be much easier to have an accident, especially if you're having an off day and not concentrating, whereas 20mph is fast enough for local commute, especially in European countries and if you do have an accident at those speeds, the impact would be far less than at 40mph.
@@paul1979uk2000 The English town that my uncle & aunt live in has a private escooter ban in place apparently. BUT, they allow the rideshare escooters... *cough* corruption *cough*
Yo! What's the brand of helmet and protective jacket you're wearing?
Here's my own experience to share too: I have a Synergy City Elite scooter I got for $1300 CAD plus tax....not nearly as high grade as yours.....but it does 40kph (25mph I think?). Work for me is 16km away, but 95% of it is bike path along major roads with many street crossings. I took my scooter to work 4 of 5 days this week, and it saved me an estimated $25 CAD in gas. On a good day, my car ride is 20-25 min with highway.....my absolute record on the scooter with lots of green lights is 36 min (max 50min on a bad day). Considering I can ride it even in light rain, that's not a bad investment. I've got about 1500km on my ODO so far. One major difference though, is because 40kph is the fastest I will ever go (same as my bike), I use a bicycle helmet and no extra gear.....not fast enough to justify it (takes a while to reach 40 and I rarely stay there for long). My scooter is also much easier to lock up, and has an amazing electric horn. Considering how advanced yours seems, I'm surprised by your beep. So it's important to note, that a scooter can be even more viable than expressed in your video! The only thing that scares me now is changing laws surrounding them becoming more restrictive. There comes a point where a scooter's cost becomes too expensive to ever expect a ROI. Mine would take me 7500km of travel to/from work to pay itself off wiht Toronto gas prices (not counting pleasure trips).
I like this new format, its quite fresh and not many other youtuber did this. It makes the review of the product a lot more engaging
Should I use this style for phone/earbud/smartwatch videos?
@@MikeOBrienMedia😊
Definitely does great on hills, but I’m surprised it comes with such small wheels and tires.
The Varla we just reviewed has the perfect tire size for a scooter like this IMO
Cheers
Elaborate please, I think this one has 11inch tires vs 10 inch on the eagle. Seems OK to me, but on Chinese sites you can even find 14inch big tires scooter too :o
They both have small wheels 🐜🛞
I love EUC and I only take the car if it rains or stuff is to much to carry. I have an electric Renault Kangoo with less range than my (EUC) monowheel Sherman I daily. I also have to charge my car over 500 meters away from home (total pain). Between owning 2 cars, a motorcycle, an electric skateboard and 2 mono wheels; I absolutely love driving/riding my Sherman the most. Never stuck in traffic, not any bigger than my shoulder width you can take it pretty much anywhere. It's also great fun driving RC cars while chasing it, much better than walking and running.
For the carrying part, I think a monowheel would be a solution as it frees both hands. I do groceries with mine in a densely populated city
Honestly monowheels scare me. I know I'd nosedive
groceries on a mono wheel?? jesus christ
@@LukusMaxamus I mean I never fall going and I go at safe speed. Small wheels of a scooter is a risk too
@@LukusMaxamus small groceries in a good quality backpack - perfectly doable.
@@Loqque he said he uses a mono wheel because it frees both of his hands, I was imagining him carrying his shopping while riding lol
Since you asked for feedback - 6:21 - I am LOYAL to my ebike, literally use it on the daily and commute back and forth to work with it every day... Just about the only thing I don't use it for is groceries and aside from that it has basically replaced my car.
This being said, that boost mode was AWESOME. My ebike only tops out at 28mph and that's with full PAS and peddling pretty decently, it's literally impossible for me to get up to 40-ish MPH without just going straight down hill (though I don't think I'd want to).
What about fast charging? That is something that would extend the usable range and make a HUGE difference in usability. Usually a feature these scooters lack, but you'd think a $4000 one would offer it, right?!
A coworker bought a scooter to ride to the parking garage. He had a simple fall, ended up in coma and died. He was in his 50's, in decent shape, but not an athlete. It's incredible how our reflexes and muscles degrade with time, so be careful!
would love to see you ride electric unicycle (EUC), it changed my life
We actually have bus bike racks where I live so e bikes/scooters are definitely not just for city commuting. you can actually expand your commute so much farther than you might think. It just takes a city/county willing to make bikes car replacements.
I considered something like this instead of a motorbike upgrade, the issue for me is being able to take a passenger, if it wasn’t for this I already ride daily in the rain which I don’t mind at all. The biggest issue though is they are not legal in the UK ☹️ P.S. "just going off to meet someone, obviously safety first (hold helmet up)" next clip shows him in shorts cruising round a corner 🤣
Hmmm... let me think- rain, snow, fog, low-light, low-visibility, hazard in vehicular traffic, fatigue, injury, hazard to pedestrians, hazard to rider, road hazards, etc.
These bikes aren’t legal in uk? Damn, I was hoping to bring mine over to travel without paying huge fees; what do people in uk use as alternative then?
@@bobswolfie2001 I see a few people early morning when there are no coppers around using them and then faking a push when they need to. Most people use public transport or a moped.
Everything fun is banned in the uk all our e bikes are supposed to be limited to 15.5mph . Plenty of people ignore this and as long as you aren't a total idiot cops pretty much turn a blind eye. We don't have scooters as powerful as this though. @@bobswolfie2001
Believe me, it is incredible. Once I add the Hitch to tow my boat to the cottage, it was all I never needed from then on. On top of that, often when on the scooter, music suddenly starts. It's sort of like cheap music that you would hear in elevators in the old days. Where it comes form, I do not know. LOL
Thanks for a honest review of this scooter. Its Definitely in competing with the other beast scooters but i feel it misses the mark with things that matter to me. Im more of a RT/10 Viper guy. No frills. Just give me the power!
The biggest advantage is parking and you are not sitting 16 hours/day, the disadvantage is whetaher and long distance travel
If I'm rich enough to have this kinda option, I would
Loved this style of video. Would really enjoy seeing more like this.
Thank you! More videos like this to come!
To lock up scooters, i really recommend small u-locks like the fahgettaboutit. While they have obvious disadvantages with bikes, they are great for scooters because they enable you to use the whole handle stem to lock it, because you really cant move it above the handlebar.
Very thorough and extensive review Mike! Not for me but thanks for sharing! 😄
Thanks for watching! I really appreciate the support even though this isn't something you plan to buy :)
How are the speed-wobbles if you let go of one hand grip? The one and only e-scooter I ever used alarmed the heck out of me when I let go of a grip at about 15mph...the front wheel went into a crazy speed-wobble.
I drove a car from 17 years of age to 60. Then I got rid of my car. I was shocked how much I did not miss it in my life. Yes I live in a capital city. But for every day life it was easier, quicker and more convenient
My $1400- ebike has replaced my car. No registration, inspection, insurance or license needed . Oh yes, no expensive gasoline or oil either.
You forgot to mention that it's better for the environment than a vehicle. Savings on fuel, insurance.....and fun to ride. Faster to get around than being stuck in traffic.
But we still use fossil fuels to make electricity
in Amsterdam, they have these little metal ramps against the wall or edge of stairwells up bridges etc so that cyclists can wheel their bicycles easily up and down the stairwells beside them as they walk up the steps, so easy and brilliant, and we have nothing like that here in England, but, yeah, would be a useful thing for cyclists and scooter riders in the USA too.
I can tell you, I live in the Netherlands, and I use my M365 scooter, which cost about $400, to get to the train station and back when I don't feel like cycling. It is not very fast, which is fine with me, and weighs about 12kg so easy to pick up and carry. It is relatively small and MUCH easier to take with on the train or bus, than a bicycle. This is useful for the situations where I need to cover a few km to get to my final destination, after getting off the train (saves me having to take the bus and I am on my own schedule)
Ben je tevreden van die m365? Datnis die van aovo toch?
Is it not possible to get a U-lock around the neck behind the front fork/stem? Maybe if you angle it upward if you can't fit it through horizontally, and a bit diagonally to get it around a bike rack or something. There are different size U-locks that may be wide and long enough. Or go with something like an Abus Bordo for a flexible and narrow lock.
Thank you for this excellent overview and I appreciate your emphasis on safety, something that is often simply overlooked in other scooter reviews. This looks like a great product and is now $2999 (maybe because of Black Friday or something). I have decided to wait until the spring, when the weather is again conducive (and hopefully I have a job again) before getting one of these. For a while I was considering a traditional motor scooter, Vespa style, but now I'm leaning toward an electric vehicle of some sort, seated or standing.
hesitate a lot between the segway gt2 and the segway ps100.. I don't know which one to choose....? currently I have a ninebot max 30 that I really like, I take it everywhere I go, doctor, grocery store, business. I enter inside all the establishments where I go. which one do you recommend sgt2 or ps100..?
No way would I leave it out unlocked up like that.
Most of the time, I was able to string a bike lock through some fence and wrap it around the stem a bunch of times. Not impossible to get off, but extremely difficult. I never left it outside for more than 10 or 15 minutes
but I agree. There NEEDS to be a good way to lock this
@@MikeOBrienMedia weird that Segway thought about everything and made everything so ergonomic but not the locking part
So I commute to work and do all my shopping on my Zero 9 - it folds down and weighs 18kg so I can carry it into stores one handed to avoid the locking/theft problems, and it’s powerful enough to get me where I need to go. Riding in the wet is safe if you know what you’re doing and maintain your scooter. We don’t get snow where I am! It’s entirely replaced the need for a car for me. So yes a scooter can replace a car, for some people.
The thing about electric stuff is that I'm always worried that if the company flops, or if they release a new different model, or something along those lines, what are you going to do with batteries? It's not like an engine where you can just go to O'Reilly's and buy some parts for these things once it's gone it's gone, and that's what I fear about all electric vehicles moving forward. O'Reilly's stocking Tesla batteries when :p I fear this might actually be worse for the environment rather than better if we end up in the future we're buying a car is disposable or designing the vehicle in such a manner were any non-authorized batteries brick the car. Vehicle ownership will be a thing of the past, mark my words.
Not to mention the many materials used to make batteries. There's got to be a way to properly recycle those materials.
If you know the number of cells, voltage and amerage, you can literally just solder you own battery(or have a new battery made by a company according to spec).
It's expensive, but there's options.
Maybe you could thread a thinner cable through the two wheels arm mounts?
More expensive than my car 😂
I live in the suburbs of Chicago and I have to travel into the city quite often. My scooter has changed the way I do that for the better. I'm able to park my car in a nice secure parking garage when I get downtown and then scooter around. I can scooter to various destinations without having to worry about finding another parking spot and paying again for parking, getting stuck in traffic, and overall it's a lot more fun and low stress than driving through the city.
This was one of the highest quality best produced video reviews! I don't know how you do it. I live in Boise, Idaho and can scoot just about anywhere anytime of year on my dual motor Segway Ninebot. It accelerates fast, climbs well, and it's easy to lock. And cost way south of $1k!
20 MPH is fast enough downtown but wouldn't mind 40-plus for long open country road rides or trails. Segway is reliable as well. I would have liked more time devoted to off-road capabilities! Thanks!! Mort
the one thing I've seen no one mention. be ready for ALOT of wind. and wind effects the mileage as well. idk why I DIDNT even think about it till I was on my scooter. you feel it alot. treat it like a moto.
Would a U-Lock on the stem attached to a pole or bike rack not work? Should be narrow enough that you couldn't get it out of that without severely damaging the handlebars or stem
At almost 6'5" the biggest issue I have with so many electric scooters is the handlebar height. To me ideally would be the ability to have the stemp as high as 46 inches from the deck and the option for a seat.
So add some height with different handlebars !!
I have a Segway Ninebot. I totally agree; so much fun to ride but Segway seems to have a problem designing their scooters to be lockable. Just like the GT, my Ninebot can’t really be locked when you take it out. There’s a brake locking system built into the Ninebot, but a determined thief can still steal it. Does the GT have a similar locking system? I don’t think you showed whether or not the GT can fold or disclosed exactly how much it weighs. Where have you purchased it from? I would get this scooter if I could solve the security issue and if it comes down a bit in price.
In USA, all this is just until govt starts trying to regulate the things like they did with gas-powered scooters and microbikes. Then you won’t be able to ride certain places (walk/bike paths or even on-road) or you’ll need full insurance/licensure so govt can collect its “pound of flesh” in fees. These will turn into big paperweights like the gas powered versions for those people who hoped to use them as alternative transportation.
Can you register it as motorcycle and get insurance on that? For example in Estonia all scooters above 1kw and faster than 25Km/h are not escooters, but they can not be registered as motorcycles, becsuse they do not fit for all the requirements given to motorcycle. So you can not register, insure, get drivers license on that.
Very informative video I really enjoyed it. How are you recording this though? What setup do you use?
yeah but where can you put it when you going to grocery shopping or to the gym like you said it won't fold and its really hard to tie it
i dont have one but i would lock it through the front fork. looks like you would be able to fit a lock through there
I just bought a Segway Max G2 and I love I only use solar energy for charging it. A 100 watt portable solar panel charge my scooter every day and that simple action adds even more satisfaction ☀❤
as a current scooter owner, i really think they are useful, reliable, and fun. I always take it when im going to football training, the mall, language classes, or even just for fun. tbh if you are living in abu dhabi, a scooter is all you need because everything is with in a 10km range (if you live in reem island or close to abu dhabi mall).
I need that in my life!! I'll probably pick one up this winter when UA-cam picks up a bit. Treat myself! Great video!
Couldn't you lock it with a small enough u-lock? As long as it can't be pulled over the handle bars or the front wheel
Yes that is what I began doing!
idunno... going 70 km/h on a thingy with tires that small, no way of protecting my self, where just a little bump can make me fly... id rather have an actual scooter, where i can sit and relax, not feel every hole in the road, and maybe witha little storage under the seat, even just to have a place to put my helmet after i park it. also u can lock a scooter. might not be electric but surely has less impact on the environemt than these SUVs that people seem to enjoy so much althought they cant drive the thing.
As someone who really doesn't like cars, I have been using e-scooters as my primary mode of commuting and tasks for years now.
Works fairly well even in the cold north (only heavy snowfall really places some obstacles, but in those days I'll just take public transit)
What's stopping you jerry rigging a milk crate on the back? Not on the wheel because of suspension but make some kind of bracket to attach to the board
for the physical lock:
just above the front wheel?
How’s the battery? One could only last like roughly 3 to 4 hours
What kind of lock? I seen some interesting handliffs style ones you the HB shaft and the center pole of a bike rack… surprised for 4k they don’t have a key ignition system; hopefully there’s gps tracking in the scooter
You can get an ebike with a mid drive bosch motor. all-terrain tires with fenders for all weather usage, panniers racks and baskets for cargo, you can lock it digitally, dutch lock or NYC style U-lock, can go up hills if you know how to use gears on a bike, 90 miles of range, 28mph pedal assist is fast enough
There are these hiking carts (for people with back issues etc) that strap toa person witha harness and then they walk while their gear rolls behind them. I wonder if one could work strapped to a person on an e-scooter.
Really great point on safety. Most people underestimate the need for safety gear when riding scooter like these.
What’s the cargo capacity, how do the shock absorbers dampeners work on potholes, what’s the charge time, how long is the range drive range,? Thanks.😊
It needs a metal loop welded to the frame so you can attach a bike lock to it!
I recently pre order the segway G2 max, what do you think about that scooter?
drive a scooter in the city become a manhole cover, video at 8. $3800 you have got to be kidding me
During summer, rental scooters are my primary way of transportation most of the year except winter and I can confirm those being very convenient. I buy an yearly pass which will give me free unlocks, so you only pay per minute and since I can utilize biking shortcuts the travel time is very short. During winter, buses are the most convenient here (in Finland), because of dedicated bus lines and soon public transportation traffic light priority.
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the Honda Grom or Honda Navi. 100mpg. Grom is similarly priced to the GT2 but more power. The Navi is half the price with more power. You might be limited on the bike trail riding but you can lock these up. And I don't think you can bring it into your office at work but maybe it depends on where you work...
The Navi is great.
The cost of the vehicle is literally significantly less than 2 month of parking and minimal coverage liability insurance for my car (I am 26 I refuse to pay for the insurance of my RAV4 sitting in my garage unless I absolutely need it until my premium goes down. Yes, i've shopped around ,and no I am not on my parent's insurance).
Since there is more good than bad i'll just list the downsides.
- you need to spend 6 month on getting a license especially if your local dmv is a pain in the ass.
-Liability insurance is nearly 1/3 the cost of the vehicle a year.
-DMV appointment in any city is reverse customer service particularly if you need them for anything. However you do need to go to the dmv on average once a year.(generally ruins your mood for the day or wipes you out)
-I lost my key replacing it was a insanely difficult cost me 800 dollars and a 2 days of my life (i needed to ship the bike and myself into another state because they need me to be present and to prove I own the bike). The key replacement and the process alone was almost the cost of a new Navi (if getting one was a little less painful, my dealership didn't charge a premium and the local used market wasn't inflated)
- Don't underestimate the cost of time. IF you live in a environment where mini moto is viable option over lets say a nc700 or a car chances are you live in a city where you can by a navi with less than one week of post tax income. If you dumped 3 days worth of time like me you basically lost more than half the cost of the navi with your time alone.
- Naturally I live in NYC so my experiences are based off of that but even so the speed limit on a grom isn't enough for you to travel between boroughs.
- thieves generally aim for bikes under 400cc due to weight so unless you want to actively ruin your monthly insurance rate beware (assuming you even get full coverage).
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- lastly decent mechanics even with cutthroat rates are hard to come by unless you own a harley or indian.
It can be considered as a complementary vehicle. Thats what i do with mix of scooter and underground metro. I have to fold often though but save 25% of my commuting time .
It could also put in the trunk, so car for the long commuting part and then scooter for the short part to avoid having to park in busy area
1:56 he just leaves it outside in this video. Reality: that will get stolen lmao. We got some E-scooters as well and nobody in their right mind will leave it like that. An E-bike can be locked up but usually Escooters can't.
unfortunately not allowed in the Netherlands on the main road... whats the weight-limit on the scooter?
Got 700 miles on mine my commute is 40 miles a day. Pretty beastly. The cruise control for 29-30 eats less battery vs 26-28 or 31-40.
I used my Mi 365 as my daily driver. Used it to go to work, go to school, go shopping. Had to charge it pretty often. But no tolls, no queues, no parking fees and cheap to charge
My Meepo Hurricane electric longboard gets me around town day to day and some weeks I don't use my car at all. Long 10 mile treks sometimes on a skateboard! A huge 40L backpack and backup tools and spare parts keeps me from putting gas in my car all the time. In LA I don't have to worry about parking and I take the board inside with me so I don't even have to worry about it getting stolen. I have over 16,000 miles across my Boosted Board, Evolve GT and now the Meepo Hurricane.
Could you make a similar video reviewing ebikes? It possible specifically the Velotric Go1 or Packer 1 since you mentioend going to the grocery store and dropping off packages snd it hss space for that at cheaper price than the scooter.
I can say I did the same. I had a Chevy Cobalt SS, and the motor locked up. I bought a mountain bike. Someone stole it. I replaced it with an aovoPRO electric scooter. The only problem on long trips is that you get tired of standing. I tie wrapped a tote to mine for grocery shopping. The strap unsnaps for pleasure riding removing the bag part. I use the side pockets for carrying tools.
As someone who is married with currently one car for the home, the 3 scooters I own have replaced my truck for 3 years now as a daily commute of 16 miles a day. The one thing this and all other reviews won’t explain to you is that the maintenance situation with scooters is REAL. You WILL be working on them semi-frequently and you MUST love to tinker. All kinds of home maintenance and service will be required unless you live right next to an approved service shop (which 99% of the time this isn’t the case). So you BETTER be willing to set up a small shop area in your garage or apartment that holds the various tools that you WILL end up purchasing to make your self service life easier. And finally, all scooters are somewhat similar in how internally accessible they are for said service….except for this one. The segway GT2, while being well built, is a convoluted tucked away jigsaw puzzle that will add MUCH extra time compared to other brands. I would DEFINITELY not choose this one based on its overall cost and maintenance headache. Reviewers do not live with scooters long enough to share what I feel is the most important part of being a scooter enthusiast and commuter.