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  • Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
  • Xbox recovered from the Red Ring of Death, but it never recovered from Don Mattrick (Sorry Sheila).
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    ☠ VO Cast (In order of Appearance) ☠
    @bunnyhopshow as Seamus Blackley
    @botchamaniaagain7613 as Jack Tretton
    Takahata101 ( / takahata101 ) as Anonymous Leaker
    @mothersbasement as Adam Orth
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    @hbomberguy as Phil Harrison
    The Patron Saint of Break Stuff @MattMcMuscles as Phil Spencer
    Producer Grace as Reddit Commenter & Xbox PR
    ☠ Chapters ☠
    00:00 - Hey I’m Derek It’s Me Derek!
    02:36 - Kinect-A-Mania
    08:16 - Next Gen Rumors
    11:17 - Sony Draws First Blood
    13:54 - Xbox (Doesn’t) Clap Back
    20:11 - Talk to ‘em, Donny!
    26:11 - Xbox Responds (Kinda)
    34:11 - E3 2013 Showdown
    39:51 - “It’s called Xbox 360”
    42:03 - Fall Out
    46:34 - Thanks For Watching! Stay Powerful!
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    Team Spirit - Kinect Sports Rivals
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    Voltaic Dynatron (Powerplant Stage) - Mighty No. 9
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    Village of Whispers (Hisako’s Theme) - Killer Instinct
    Boss 7 Theme - Adventures of Cookie and Cream
    Afrotar - Kinect Adventures
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  • @StopSkeletonsFromFighting
    @StopSkeletonsFromFighting  2 роки тому +179

    Hey, thanks for stopping by!
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    • @Edd0784
      @Edd0784 2 роки тому +2

      Why not make a video about how Xbox is hot right now?

    • @atari2600b
      @atari2600b 2 роки тому +2

      I miss the living room couch with the wine

    • @triplestar100
      @triplestar100 2 роки тому

      here's an idea, if it interest you and the crew= Nintendo as a console phoenix: both after A] the disaster of the Virtual Boy with the rising of the GBA & N64, and B} the catastrophe of the Wii-U and their unprecedented resurface with the Switch! here's hoping the idea's good enough for at least mild consideration!

    • @dragongamerz2
      @dragongamerz2 2 роки тому

      Do you heard yellow light death on the PS3 no joke.

    • @MrCalverino
      @MrCalverino 2 роки тому

      The 8th generation of gaming was boring😪

  • @Excellsion
    @Excellsion 2 роки тому +1446

    The "How to share games on PS4" commercial is amazing.

    • @flametitan100
      @flametitan100 2 роки тому +157

      It was the sickest burn 16 year old me ever saw, and it's still up there for me today.

    • @AKIBATAKU39
      @AKIBATAKU39 2 роки тому +25

      A shamn shame it did not age well with the CMOS bomb discovery.

    • @flametitan100
      @flametitan100 2 роки тому +97

      @@ps5hasnogames55 Your cringe just makes me happier to use it.

    • @ulqinaku8471
      @ulqinaku8471 2 роки тому +20

      @@ps5hasnogames55 based

    • @babyboomertwerkteam5662
      @babyboomertwerkteam5662 2 роки тому +46

      @@AKIBATAKU39 that had to do with trophies, not DRM, and Sony fixed it.

  • @markvicferrer
    @markvicferrer 2 роки тому +2142

    That E3 Sony presentation was one of the most public displays of "I'm gonna end this man's whole career".

    • @figgynewton5664
      @figgynewton5664 2 роки тому +30

      I think people over reacted and bought into media hate, back when hired people like Colin Moriarty. I still can't believe people bought PS4 it was doo doo, and remember hating everything 8th gen, period. 8th gen was worst gen ever
      But real end man's career was 299.

    • @viraticwars
      @viraticwars 2 роки тому +52

      I mean, they were going to do the same thing before Xbox shit it's pants on stage.

    • @KLegyyn
      @KLegyyn 2 роки тому +53

      Though let's be real, they did that when they launch the PlayStation and PlayStation 2.
      .
      SEGA and their consoles were DOOMED!
      .
      .

    • @rizkaarifiandi5670
      @rizkaarifiandi5670 2 роки тому +39

      yeah, they even almost end their own career in E3 with "riiiiiiidge racer, remember that one ?" or "this giant crab is a part of japanese history" or something like that hahahaha

    • @TylerFurrison
      @TylerFurrison 2 роки тому +26

      Remember the PS3 launch?

  • @duck74UK
    @duck74UK 2 роки тому +470

    A move so catastrophic, it's still bleeding into the current generation

    • @jeremyzak654
      @jeremyzak654 2 роки тому +61

      I can forgive Xbox for all that shit that happened under Mattrick. The only problem I have with Xbox now is the games. I was never in to Gears or Forza and was pretty much done with Halo after the 4th game. I'm at the point where I want to see something different from them.

    • @Noobsaibot21
      @Noobsaibot21 Рік тому +8

      They are certainly still hurting from it but to be fair, they have worked hard and steadied the ship under Phil Spencer now and are bouncing back (Something Sega could never do after their 90's screw ups despite the awesome Dreamcast). Sony seem to be helping them out a lot lately too with some of their recent decisions (It's insane that they have bumped UP the price of PS5 just in these last few weeks). The opposite of what consoles normally do after a few years on sale.

    • @Haydos
      @Haydos Рік тому +3

      I bought an Xbox One S because it was so cheap back then. I never used it BC it was so under powered compared to my PC. I now think that the PS4 definitely won that gen so I got a used PS4 so i can play the exclusives. I don't think the Xbox one is affecting them in this generation. Other than their reputation they are doing 300x better than Xbox one times. Even though I didn't enjoy the Xbox last gen I got the Xbox series X and it has been amazing. Since then they have actually made the console powerful enough to play any game at 4k. They have game pass so I just pick out games from there. They also have Amazing backwards compatibility so I just go to thrift shops and buy used Xbox, Xbox 360 and Xbox one games for cheap. They are definitely competing with the ps5 this gen. I also have some hope for exclusive games soon but that doesn't matter to me.

    • @moister3727
      @moister3727 Рік тому +4

      It's so weird. The One was so catastrophic it led to MS to rethink Xbox direction altogether with Phil at the head.
      Now they're focusing on services for the most part, and making stuff really accesible for eveyone which is great.
      Everyone is just playing on their side of the field. Nintendo on theirs, Microsoft on theirs and Sony on theirs (altrough they are clearly taking big inspirations on what MS is doing right now).
      Now, Xbox needs to make good big games now. Variety and quality. Oh, and gather some inportant third parties like Square which it seems have left Xbox altogether.

    • @chrisfratz
      @chrisfratz 9 місяців тому

      ​@@jeremyzak654as in the 4th numbered game or the fourth game that came out, which was 3 ODST if I remember correctly

  • @DurradonXylles
    @DurradonXylles 2 роки тому +279

    It's been close to a decade, but holy crap, I still remember this all vividly. Back when the original Xbox One reveal happened, my best friend and I were looking at the Twitter feeds from a myriad of gaming journalists at the time. Right as the "Xbox One Will Release Worldwide Later This Year" bit happened, as the applause filled the room, Adam Sessler, formerly and once again part of G4, tweeted: "None of the press here are applauding at any of this." Apparently, MS and Xbox had the employees at the reveal applaud at everything Don Mattrick was saying, as according to Adam and several others none of the press was applauding at the show at all. That blew my mind how much MS was trying to course correct in the face of the bad press over their yet-to-be-announced, seeming abandonment of games and forcing always online onto their customers who supported them for two generations.

    • @DeltaAssaultGaming
      @DeltaAssaultGaming 11 місяців тому

      Adam Sessler is a crazy leftwing loon.

    • @UncomfortableShoes
      @UncomfortableShoes 7 місяців тому +17

      I had a 360 and was planning on just moving on to the Xbox 1. My friend and I at work were so ready and excited. That reveal and I just instantly was ready for the ps4 and then got super excited and when Microsoft tried to right the ship I told my friend “They made me look across the street and I liked what I saw over there more.”

    • @zaneheaston8254
      @zaneheaston8254 3 місяці тому +2

      Adam Sessler is a legend

  • @transimpedance
    @transimpedance 2 роки тому +611

    “So stick with 360- that’s your message for people who don’t like it?” Geoff Keighley quick on his feet and hits the nail on the head. The man is a legend

    • @talison461
      @talison461 10 місяців тому +22

      I think I'll stick to PlayStation actually

    • @liamconverse8950
      @liamconverse8950 9 місяців тому

      ​@@talison461The the funny thing is that PlayStation does the exact same thing

    • @sinistrality7883
      @sinistrality7883 9 місяців тому +76

      I'm so glad he really told Don Mattrick that right to his face, like he didn't minced words he deadass told him "so you don't want poeople to buy this new console then?"

    • @josedorsaith5261
      @josedorsaith5261 8 місяців тому +15

      When he's not being cringe at award shows

    • @k.t.1641
      @k.t.1641 8 місяців тому +11

      Tbf he tries really hard, but it’s the people and fans themselves imo that make it worse. Feel bad for him trying to take something serious when your audience are adult children 😂

  • @GoodlyPenguin
    @GoodlyPenguin 2 роки тому +925

    "The Xbox is about to be the next watercooler" is the most baffling sentence to ever be said. It means literally nothing

    • @Coolman13355
      @Coolman13355 2 роки тому +96

      Seriously the watercooler wasn't even the first watercooler.

    • @Canadian_duck31
      @Canadian_duck31 2 роки тому +93

      I have never seen any console as a water cooler especially since it doesn’t even keep my drink cold.

    • @GoodlyPenguin
      @GoodlyPenguin 2 роки тому +64

      @@GerardMenvussa I actually think that was the case here. She probably had something *witty* to say but she must've either messed up or forgot about it and went with the next thing that the average working class American knew at the time. Unfortunately calling your next Xbox the "next watercooler" doesn't promote *anything* about it, and it comes off as fucking weird. I like to think she wanted to say something else but it all came crumbling down so fast

    • @lightninstriker10
      @lightninstriker10 2 роки тому +93

      "The next watercooler" Oh, you mean that thing people at work gather around, not to use it but because standing around looking busy is preferable to doing literally *anything* else? Yeah, sounds about right.

    • @Apemopo
      @Apemopo 2 роки тому +24

      Convergence, viral marketing. We're going guerrilla. We're taking it to the streets while keeping an eye on the street. Wall Street! I don't want to reinvent the wheel here. In other words, it is what it is. Buying paper just became fun.

  • @tegolin
    @tegolin 2 роки тому +45

    I remember watching the Xbox One reveal as a 360 player. After it finished, I immediately looked up the PS4.

    • @iPhone-su8li
      @iPhone-su8li 3 місяці тому

      No you didn't

    • @karlimo4034
      @karlimo4034 3 місяці тому +1

      I did but never ended up buying one, always too expensive in my country. Now, after the PS5 reveal, I went for a Series S with Game Pass instead. Why not the X? Love the S smaller design and I'm too old to spend much money on videogames, responsabilities and all. Besides, Series S gives me everything I need, cheap Game Pass subscription in exchange for an excellent digital library of games I don't have space or interest to own (once I finish a game, I forget about it and go for the next one). So yeah, Phil Spencer revived Xbox like no other.

    • @jase276
      @jase276 Місяць тому

      No lie. I stuck with my 360 for a couple of years because gen 8 had the slowest start but I eventually grabbed a PS4.

  • @JoshWitte
    @JoshWitte 3 місяці тому +72

    Mattrick was the beginning of the end...

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue 3 місяці тому +3

      who wants to play a 4-disc version of Wolfenstein the new order?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Ethan_Alexandur
      @Ethan_Alexandur Місяць тому

      Dude deserves 20 Darwin awards

  • @rac1equalsbestgame853
    @rac1equalsbestgame853 2 роки тому +182

    "WiiU sales shot up by almost 400% after
    XOne reveal"
    My god what a failure

    • @justanotheryoutubechannel
      @justanotheryoutubechannel 2 роки тому +5

      Blimey that is awful

    • @jeremyzak654
      @jeremyzak654 2 роки тому +15

      Don't knock the Wii U too hard. At least the Wii U had fun first party games.

    • @rac1equalsbestgame853
      @rac1equalsbestgame853 2 роки тому +37

      @@jeremyzak654 It is just super funny that the XOne reveal was so bad it sold WiiU's instead

    • @zaneheaston8254
      @zaneheaston8254 3 місяці тому

      @@jeremyzak654 All two of them

  • @LordHorst
    @LordHorst 2 роки тому +626

    "You do not use your cellphone as a remote. You use your cell phone. And that's the end of the sentence."
    Thanks, Derek. Wiser words have never been spoken!

    • @codesigma
      @codesigma 2 роки тому +25

      Remember the “Second Screen Experience” and “Smart Glass”? I don’t!

    • @boredincan
      @boredincan 2 роки тому +17

      I really miss having an IR blaster on my phone so I could use it as a universal remote

    • @lpnp9477
      @lpnp9477 2 роки тому +9

      I use Roku Remote on my phone since I lost my damn Roku remote

    • @nicwelch
      @nicwelch 2 роки тому

      @@lpnp9477 Yes. Except that’s a shitty experience. Lol.

    • @chrismichaelgardner
      @chrismichaelgardner 2 роки тому

      @@codesigma I do. :(

  • @Lyubimov89
    @Lyubimov89 2 роки тому +115

    Zynga was like, hey Donnie, we just saw you run a brand into the ground while completely ignoring your consumers. We wanna hire you

    • @zaneheaston8254
      @zaneheaston8254 Рік тому +13

      I know right, why would anybody want that clown running their company

    • @jeremyzak654
      @jeremyzak654 Рік тому +5

      To be fair, Don had more successes than he did failures. Becoming a millionaire at 16 is no small feat.

    • @B727X
      @B727X Рік тому

      @@zaneheaston8254 I'm sure you could do so much better you're right he completely sucks and that's because I don't like his conservative policies is why I say that

    • @tinoesroho
      @tinoesroho 11 місяців тому +4

      is he the bozo Google hired to make Stadia

    • @SaintGGod
      @SaintGGod Місяць тому

      ​@@jeremyzak654Who gave him that million dollars?

  • @auritone
    @auritone 2 роки тому +206

    There was a real threat to Xbox One in Europe as the EU was looking into whether the console could even be sold in that market as the always on Kinect was seen as a possible violation of EU privacy laws.
    Great video.

    • @Coolman13355
      @Coolman13355 Рік тому +23

      I'll have to look into that, but certainly sounds like the EU.

    • @kaneo1
      @kaneo1 7 місяців тому +10

      Gee, an always-on camera/mic in your living room you don't necessarily control. What's creepy about that??
      I bought an X1S AFTER M$ dropped Kinect/always online.

    • @heroe1486
      @heroe1486 5 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Coolman13355 And they're right, who in his right mind would trust Microsoft with that ? Even running Windows is a threat to your privacy, here we're speaking about a camera in your living or bed room

  • @warningdontread5478
    @warningdontread5478 2 роки тому +816

    "If you're backwards compatible, you're really backwards." Flash forward to today where the biggest selling point for the Xbox Series X is being a massive backwards compatible machine lol. Don Mattrick really was a clown with no foresight for actual quality products.
    Edit: This became even more ironic with the recent Xbox 20th anniversary update to backwards compatibility and how it gained massive positive reaction from everyone.

    • @nickfifteen
      @nickfifteen 2 роки тому +93

      Donny was lucky a few times and assumed that luck translated into business savvy.

    • @V3ntilator
      @V3ntilator 2 роки тому +44

      The only thing he did right were getting Sunset Overdrive, Ryse and Dead Rising 3 exclusive for unknown amount of years. None of them are on any Sony console after nearly 10 years.

    • @cassiedevereaux-smith3890
      @cassiedevereaux-smith3890 2 роки тому +35

      This is super fuckery of Sega Saturn Launch proportions.

    • @thevigilante8523
      @thevigilante8523 2 роки тому +55

      Donny's background is EA btw, so yeah man. You do have a representation of him being a total a-hole of the industry.

    • @XXXXX8
      @XXXXX8 2 роки тому +4

      @@V3ntilator Only children jerk off over exclusives

  • @thecunninlynguist
    @thecunninlynguist 2 роки тому +392

    Hard to believe it was 2013! Time FLIES.

    • @Wig_Girl
      @Wig_Girl 2 роки тому +20

      It's hard to believe 2013 was 8 years ago

    • @AmoralTom
      @AmoralTom 2 роки тому +12

      Only yesterday it felt like a Friday

    • @vkobevk
      @vkobevk 2 роки тому +3

      @@Wig_Girl it is not hard for me, coronavirus year was too long for me 😆

    • @YeahNaw
      @YeahNaw 2 роки тому +4

      @@Wig_Girl Soon, before you know it, the Infamous XBone presentation will be 10 years old

    • @NeoGato2point0
      @NeoGato2point0 2 роки тому +5

      yeah i remember this happening and there being lots of talk of the new xbox spying on you. it was like a big gaming scandal at the time it was huge

  • @TheCivildecay
    @TheCivildecay 2 роки тому +175

    I imagine Phil Spencer has to fight people like Don Mattrick on daily basis

    • @Noobsaibot21
      @Noobsaibot21 2 роки тому +30

      Yeah, I think he deserves a tip of the hat. He is someone who gets it and has done an amazing job correcting the ship so far but yeah, i'd imagine his hardest work are with his superiors for sure

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine Рік тому +14

      "The Mattricks has you, Neo."

    • @jordanwhite352
      @jordanwhite352 20 днів тому +1

      This statement has now aged poorly.

    • @sistockbridge8764
      @sistockbridge8764 9 днів тому

      @@Noobsaibot21 Do you still think the same about Phil these days?

  • @leeartlee915
    @leeartlee915 2 роки тому +90

    Probably my favorite episode ever. It still astonishes me that one man almost killed a whole video game company. Don, you will not be missed.

    • @SsspraakForsskkarring
      @SsspraakForsskkarring 3 місяці тому

      Really, did you laugh at any jokes, or was it the information that made you feel that way? I am curious , I only saw something thousands have already said before and know a plant when I see one. Made only for the metrics.

    • @leeartlee915
      @leeartlee915 3 місяці тому +1

      @@SsspraakForsskkarring Are you asking if I truly liked SSFF video? Yes… I did. Sorry if you didn’t.

    • @SsspraakForsskkarring
      @SsspraakForsskkarring 3 місяці тому

      @@leeartlee915Yes, I was curious. I am glad you enjoyed it, I won't say you shouldn't because I didn't. If you have seen how many UA-camrs hire commenters as I have, it is hard to believe comments these days. I am just cynical I guess. Thanks for replying ✌

    • @leeartlee915
      @leeartlee915 3 місяці тому +1

      @@SsspraakForsskkarring Fair enough but no, I’m not a bot. Flesh and blood.
      I will say this about why I like the video: I find the delivery of the lines to be will timed. Does it make me literally lol? No but I do find it… not quite sure what the word is. I find it biting, almost clever.

    • @SsspraakForsskkarring
      @SsspraakForsskkarring 3 місяці тому

      @@leeartlee915 I get you. I like his brother's off the cuff humor at flophouse plays, he is a damn funny man to me✌

  • @MishKoz
    @MishKoz 2 роки тому +344

    The whole Snowden thing happening just before E3 is still insane. I can only imagine some Microsoft executive absolutely sweating buckets that day

    • @zingbanana
      @zingbanana 2 роки тому +27

      as always, reality is stranger than fiction.

    • @weregretohio7728
      @weregretohio7728 2 роки тому +40

      Boy we sure took Snowden's message to heart!
      /s

    • @nnickplays9713
      @nnickplays9713 2 роки тому +19

      I would bet you money that they were in on it too. If the always on always xbox kinect thing stayed Worldwide governments would have absolutely used it as a spying device.

    • @waltercomunello121
      @waltercomunello121 2 роки тому +6

      @@nnickplays9713 "if we don't do it before our enemy, they're gonna be doing it first!! the difference is, we are right!!"
      - average American army bigwig
      which, ironically, is the exact same thought their "enemies" have. so, both parties have the same mindset.

    • @nnickplays9713
      @nnickplays9713 2 роки тому +1

      @@waltercomunello121 Correct. Virtually ALL of America's politicians are part of the same uni-party. From T.Cruz to A.Cortex, from N.Polici to M.Mconnel. Just notice how everything they do always ends up giving the state more power and make them richer. The rest of it is all just a show.
      Power corrupts. And back to the Xbox camera it would have been used to both spy on the public for state and mega-corp purposes. If the technology existed it would be used then, as it is now. The phone most of us post from are listening devices that WE paid for.

  • @Dongled
    @Dongled 2 роки тому +632

    Poor Sheila. Man, that PS4 conference STILL gets a laugh out of me everytime. That "lending games" commercial? Haven't seen stuff that savage since the 16 bit days. Fantastic video as always!

    • @gabrielsofta944
      @gabrielsofta944 2 роки тому +17

      eh, it still doesn’t hold a candle to the PS2’s $299 conference
      EDIT: i meant PSX

    • @pongchannel.
      @pongchannel. 2 роки тому +5

      @Tyler Lee is it tough? I mean a xbox is basically a worse pc now?

    • @DrZuluGaming
      @DrZuluGaming 2 роки тому +2

      @@gabrielsofta944 That was actually the PS1 conference but still...

    • @gabrielsofta944
      @gabrielsofta944 2 роки тому

      @@DrZuluGaming you’re right, my bad. my point still stands tho

    • @daniman0114
      @daniman0114 2 роки тому +3

      @psh funny, I saw a comment claiming the exact opposite. Jokes aside, I’m glad that in this generation both consoles started strong without any marketing disaster on either side.

  • @TheLaLeeee
    @TheLaLeeee Рік тому +96

    Just when you think the disastrous Xbox One launch is long past, the announced Halo TV show finally comes out and manages to be one of the worst things in 2022.

    • @mutalix
      @mutalix Рік тому +14

      It is the shit icing on the feces sundae that has become Halo Infinite, my eternal thanks goes to 343i, the best soup kitchen studio I have ever seen.

    • @ScarScream
      @ScarScream 7 місяців тому +1

      Is it that bad? Still haven't tried it.

    • @KrazzeeKane
      @KrazzeeKane 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@ScarScream oh, its bad lol. Ever wanted to see Master Chief's naked master cheeks during a sex scene? He has one. He also takes his helmet off all the time, and the show itself is banal, boring and awful. Its a travesty that is what we got for a Halo live action show. It has like 2 or 3 cool combat scenes across the entire season, that is the singularly good tiny part of the show.

    • @Monsuco
      @Monsuco 2 місяці тому

      ​@@ScarScreamIt's far better than Halo 5 but it's still a mid-tier game. Not terrible but certainly not a masterpiece like all the Bungie games were.

    • @mjolnir_swe
      @mjolnir_swe Місяць тому

      Nah i wasn't that bad. As sci-fi entertainment it was fine, but of course as a Halo-product it was worse.

  • @glehub9242
    @glehub9242 2 роки тому +89

    I remember literally the day after that statement about "If you have poor internet, just stay with the 360" I packed up my 360 and all my games, and sold them to GameStop so I could preorder a Ps4, later used that Preorder money to instead buy Pokémon X&Y, the red Pokémon X&Y themed Nintendo 3DS XL, and a case. I had friends in the military at the time and we all were in disbelief and turned our backs on the Xbox after that.

    • @skibot9974
      @skibot9974 2 роки тому +2

      What made you pick 3DS over PS4

    • @glehub9242
      @glehub9242 2 роки тому +11

      @@skibot9974 nothing was out at the time for the PS4 then, and I needed to get a new 3DS at the time since my original model was starting to die.

    • @skibot9974
      @skibot9974 2 роки тому +2

      @@glehub9242 wow that soon. My 3DS lasted 6 years and I had the OG model

    • @glehub9242
      @glehub9242 2 роки тому

      @@skibot9974 mine was a day 1 model. The L trigger was going on it

    • @skibot9974
      @skibot9974 2 роки тому

      @@glehub9242 ah I bought mine in September 2011

  • @MrMallardg1
    @MrMallardg1 2 роки тому +255

    “It’s called XBox360” has got to be one of the biggest “yikes” moments I’ve ever witnessed from a video game executive interview.
    Also, WOW, I can’t believe I forgot about HashtagDealWithIt!

    • @gabrieleriva651
      @gabrieleriva651 2 роки тому +25

      Worst thing is when someone said to Orth that there were many places with unreliable or slow internet access and he replied "Why would I want to live there?"

    • @darkgaia1393
      @darkgaia1393 2 роки тому +2

      I was so mad because of that I sold my Xbox 360 that same day and got a ps3.

    • @sprthrwwychnnl73
      @sprthrwwychnnl73 2 роки тому +7

      There was an old upload of the “It’s Called Xbox 360” video on UA-cam and somebody in the comments just said “This n***as goin hard”
      It was probably the best comment ever.

    • @monkeyX42792X
      @monkeyX42792X 2 роки тому

      On par with, you think you do but you don't

    • @colmmacN
      @colmmacN 2 роки тому

      #Dealwithit was tame compared to what followed.

  • @LawrenceJohnYoung
    @LawrenceJohnYoung 2 роки тому +383

    I don't have any evidence for this, so you'll just need to take my word . But I was a GameStop store manager at the time, my understanding from DMs and RMs was that retailers (not just GameStop) saw Microsoft's always online and assault on used games as the first shot fired to muscle retail out of the picture completely. Multiple retailers threatened to not sell the console if things didn't change.
    The initial changes that allowed conditional used game sales with a purchasable license was a compromised brokered by GameStop behind closed doors before other retailers caught on to what was going on, then other retailers started to step in and voice their concerns. I'm sure Microsoft's cavalier attitude was not well received with Walmart, Best Buy or Target executives

    • @gabrieleriva651
      @gabrieleriva651 2 роки тому +55

      Yeah, people underestimate the power or retail. That's why music CD are still released. They don't bring much money into the Big music labels anymore, but sure Walmart won't let them cut that bit of coin they make selling them.

    • @SoulStealerJay
      @SoulStealerJay 2 роки тому +17

      honestly i take your word for it because NOW if microsoft did what they had done in 2013, it would make slightly more sense but it would still be a problem because that's trying to force out retail, which will not go well for years to come. no matter what retail is going to be a necessary industry, and it doesnt seem too farfetched to believe that GameStop (or, the corporate level at least) would start negotiations given their whole business model at the time was used and new games and consoles. target, walmart, best buy and everyone else would follow suit because their models also included that, and it was a successful portion of their general business. microsoft would have no choice but to listen if all major retailers pushed back, especially if it involved them pulling their orders of Xbox One stock. retail will always hold a strong grip on manufacturing, even if its faltering now. it will ALWAYS find a way back, and with games there will always be a space in the industry

    • @BleedForTheWorld
      @BleedForTheWorld 2 роки тому +10

      @@gabrieleriva651 what people really underestimate is the power of capitalism. It's the most important factor when it comes to Microsoft wanting to monopolize the market by getting rid of used sales from retailers. If what OP says is true, that's such a power move they thought they could get away with. Profit driven motive + margins, margins, margins.

    • @thenifell
      @thenifell 2 роки тому

      @@SoulStealerJay I'm not too confident in your wishful thinking.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 2 роки тому

      I think i might have heard something along these lines before.

  • @architect_kev266
    @architect_kev266 2 роки тому +23

    37:24 the filthy smile on his face after he announced that is just so amazing. You have the full right to smile like that. I kinda want to know what the PS4 team thought after Microsoft there announcement. I think they applauded like crazy and laughed there arses off

  • @pattersong6637
    @pattersong6637 3 місяці тому +38

    This video needs a follow up.

    • @BahhBahhBrownSheep
      @BahhBahhBrownSheep 3 місяці тому

      Why?

    • @TheMcstevester
      @TheMcstevester 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@BahhBahhBrownSheep so I can get some closure on his thoughts about the halo TV show now that it's not only out but he a second season

    • @austinfowler2707
      @austinfowler2707 2 місяці тому +4

      Honestly, it will be a story about gamepass and studio acquisitions.
      The thing that saved xbox wasn't even its games. It was becoming early Netflix for games.
      And that was never going to be a long term solution without studio acquisitions.

    • @jordanwhite352
      @jordanwhite352 16 днів тому +1

      ​@@austinfowler2707This didn't age well. 😅

  • @imaloony8
    @imaloony8 2 роки тому +950

    I remember watching Sony's E3 2013 presentation and laughing my ass off as they announced very basic features and the crowd just went apeshit for it. Microsoft gave Sony such a clean opening that it isn't even funny. Also funny that Sony's slides on those were very obviously rushed and cobbled together at the last minute, but they were such easy shots that it didn't matter. "You can lend games to friends" went from being obvious to being a system selling feature, which is fucking nuts.

    • @jakemilligan6251
      @jakemilligan6251 2 роки тому +167

      I love the Sony guy’s smug smile as he’s announcing “you can lend games to friends” etc. It’s like he’s thinking to himself “how did microsoft hand this to us on a plate like this”

    • @sonicboy678
      @sonicboy678 2 роки тому +75

      @@jakemilligan6251 It's arguably worse than 1995, as the Saturn debacle was ultimately down to infighting between Sega of America and Sega of Japan. This was just hubris.

    • @bigbrisk8423
      @bigbrisk8423 2 роки тому +5

      Meh who buys disc's anyways? Lmfaoo you gotta download the game regardless just get it online lmfaoo Playstation life was started and ended all within ps1 and ps2. Ps3 and onward was trash. The only thing they had goin for em after ps2 was the first 2 drakes fortune games .

    • @JamieM20001996
      @JamieM20001996 2 роки тому +69

      @@bigbrisk8423 lol who downloads games, downloading games started and ended with the 360. past that was all downhill
      It's all about the soulja console. peasant.
      get on my level

    • @bigbrisk8423
      @bigbrisk8423 2 роки тому +4

      @@JamieM20001996 lmfaooo I'm more of a n64 guy myself if I go no downloads. But with all theese new consoles regardless buying it online or offline ur stuck downloading the game and it's patches is my points why buy a disc when u gotta download it regardless using internet lol

  • @ferna182
    @ferna182 2 роки тому +147

    40:01 I still can't believe the reporter response wasn't "Right, stick with 360... And if you want a more modern console, buy a PS4, right?"

    • @dreamawake2670
      @dreamawake2670 2 роки тому +15

      Its not a reporter its Jeff keighly from IGN, gameawards. His basically shilling.

    • @Kaimax61
      @Kaimax61 2 роки тому +15

      That's Geoff Keighly lel, The Doritos guy.

    • @nikolowolokin
      @nikolowolokin 2 роки тому +20

      think geoff was being sarcastic, he wasn't happy at all saying that imo. felt like he was dunking on don tbh

    • @nickfifteen
      @nickfifteen 2 роки тому +2

      @@nikolowolokin to me Jeff sounded more like someone who is starting to get fed up with their hero.

    • @NucleaRaptor
      @NucleaRaptor 2 роки тому +9

      @@dreamawake2670 Look at Geoff's face as he asks it. He's clearly feeding Mattrick more rope to hang himself with.

  • @rainbownuke24
    @rainbownuke24 3 місяці тому +118

    This is how it happened, THIS is how the Xbox Died.

    • @beardydrums
      @beardydrums 3 місяці тому

      why did don mattrick tell xbox fans to stick with 360 is he stupid

    • @karlimo4034
      @karlimo4034 3 місяці тому +1

      Nah, Phil Spencer made it come back. Don't speak like a fanboy, grow up.

    • @borttheattorney6012
      @borttheattorney6012 3 місяці тому

      @@karlimo4034 Yapping to yap

    • @panduvandal
      @panduvandal 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@karlimo4034 okay man

    • @DevinDBell
      @DevinDBell 3 місяці тому +12

      @@karlimo4034 how the hell Xbox made a comeback? News recently came out Xbox will release their IP’s on ps5

  • @Xolnyxia
    @Xolnyxia 3 місяці тому +27

    Interesting timing for this vid to show up in my feed again

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue 3 місяці тому

      and now you know why the ps5 is the king gaming system over xbox🤣🤣🤣

  • @iriskrane2433
    @iriskrane2433 2 роки тому +71

    I completely forgot Nova yelled “Amazing” at that E3. What a fucking walk back down memory lane with that.

  • @gilolaes4725
    @gilolaes4725 2 роки тому +513

    39:54 Geoff Keighley's reaction to that was so perfect. No stunned face "Did you actually just say that?" expression. He just said exactly what was on every gamer's mind atthat moment without skipping a beat.

    • @josephkroll5517
      @josephkroll5517 2 роки тому +36

      And he is such an ENORMOUS industry shill! If even he smells blood in the water and pounces on it then you know you've fucked up.

    • @gilolaes4725
      @gilolaes4725 2 роки тому +4

      @@josephkroll5517 okay.

    • @gaseousclay579
      @gaseousclay579 2 роки тому +17

      @@josephkroll5517 You're not wrong lmao. The Game Awards every year has been an absolute disaster

    • @Devin-wv7pu
      @Devin-wv7pu 2 роки тому

      @@gaseousclay579 i agree aswell

    • @rickrollerdude
      @rickrollerdude 2 роки тому +23

      I just love the fact he was so pissed-off by the remark that for a second he just went "fuck it, and fuck this guy"

  • @Getlucky12
    @Getlucky12 2 роки тому +35

    Man, it's crazy how long ago this was. The launch of Sim City 2013 was when I first started keeping up with game industry news, I had completely forgotten about Adam Orth and the constant leaks leading up to the reveals. It's amazing that this didn't destroy the Xbox brand.

  • @DarkChaos1701
    @DarkChaos1701 2 роки тому +39

    Man I share your pain when it comes to the lack of Timesplitters in our lives. The sheer amount of time I spent playing those games with friends and family. Such a good series.

    • @matturner6890
      @matturner6890 Рік тому +1

      That's the only game I want to get a re-release or proper sequel. But even then, with how things are now, I'm half-convinced it'd still suck somehow.

  • @AlektorophobiA843
    @AlektorophobiA843 2 роки тому +270

    I love how you made Mighty N°9's music synonymous with videogame disasters.

    • @NucleaRaptor
      @NucleaRaptor 2 роки тому +19

      Matsumae's soundtrack is like the only remotely redeeming feature of MN9, and it does make me think back fondly to the time when Inafune the Liar legitimately had us convinced that a good-faith spiritual successor to the Blue Bomber was just around the corner. It's a bittersweet feel.

    • @LordArikado
      @LordArikado 2 роки тому +19

      @@NucleaRaptor It's a shame that the audio mixing in MN9 is so shit that you won't hear Matsumae's soundtrack over the sound effects and obnoxious voice acting. Such a good composer wasted.

    • @HWJASURY
      @HWJASURY 2 роки тому +5

      It did leave a lasting effect being it was the first Past Mortem episode and well Mighty Number 9 was essentially the next Mega Man And then we got Mega Man 11. I'm sure y'all can fill in the blanks.

    • @CreditR01
      @CreditR01 2 роки тому +5

      @@NucleaRaptor I think that's a little harsh. The dynamics of the characters in MN9 were good, I loved the character design personally. Beck and Call were adorable. I liked Ray too. There's sparkles of joy in the bungled mess of the game, like cleaning out a storage unit. Most of what's in it is probably junk, but you see a few things that still make you smile.

    • @picollotight2def
      @picollotight2def 2 роки тому

      Someone should mash it up with gta trilogy and see how well it works

  • @gabrieleriva651
    @gabrieleriva651 2 роки тому +258

    27:43 Phil Harrison was around the worst 3 launches in recent memory: PS3, XBone and Google Stadia. He keeps choosing the right ship to sink,

    • @groom_of_the_stool
      @groom_of_the_stool 2 роки тому +13

      I don't know why everyone thinks the PS3 was a sinking ship. It was a piece of supertechnogy when it launched and the price point was too high. By the end of the life cycle, it was in second place, after the Wii.

    • @cassiedevereaux-smith3890
      @cassiedevereaux-smith3890 2 роки тому +43

      @@groom_of_the_stool Launch aside, it had a respectable run.

    • @gabrieleriva651
      @gabrieleriva651 2 роки тому +55

      @@groom_of_the_stool it launched overpriced, overdesigned, late, with terrible UI (no trophies and no UI in-game), a non-rumbling controller (people forgot that), and worse versions of multiplat games. It got better, for sure. But it was a bad deal in 2007.

    • @gipgap4
      @gipgap4 2 роки тому +10

      @@gabrieleriva651 yeah, people forget how bad the PS3 launch was despite a revival later on.

    • @cassiedevereaux-smith3890
      @cassiedevereaux-smith3890 2 роки тому +21

      @@gabrieleriva651 Exactly this. The launch wasn't great, but launches aren't the whole history. PS3 did okay. They weren't prepared for Wii and Nintendo coming from behind and rising to the fore, but then, Nintendo had ceded space in third party titles, and become its own thing. And even then, Nintendo had done so by pulling in nontraditional gamers, and the competition were going for those who had been there for the previous generation.
      I feel like the 'nontraditional gamer' set has now moved into phones and tablets and possibly will never be recaptured by consoles, but that's a whole other question.

  • @jonasking9587
    @jonasking9587 3 місяці тому +7

    I was actually deployed w the US Army when Mattrick made the statement that we should get 360s. We had those. We would play Left 4 Dead and MW, when we actually had down time. I remember this statement, as the resident games nerd (I went from managing a Ganecrazy to the Army). I guess I had a small part in making the PS4 successful (I'm kidding, mostly, relax nerds). I told all of my buddies to get a PS4. I shared that Mattrick quote with as many of them that would listen.

  • @sun5621
    @sun5621 2 роки тому +12

    "Global peace among all skeletons in our title" nice! 23:09

  • @KevinCow
    @KevinCow 2 роки тому +396

    It's so weird to see this covered like it's a historical thing. It still feels like it was just a couple years ago.
    If you want to do a Sony focused Past Mortem, I bet the PS Vita could make an interesting episode.

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 2 роки тому +9

      Vita was a success though. Just undersold like the PSP cause of cheap soccer moms buying the 3DS and cellphones for their kids.

    • @KevinCow
      @KevinCow 2 роки тому +62

      @@Clay3613 It sold worse than the Wii U and Sony completely abandoned it after only 4 years.

    • @r.r.bigman774
      @r.r.bigman774 2 роки тому +36

      Sony took the Vita out behind the woodshed after only a year or so, and I’ll still don’t understand why. I would greatly like to see a SSFF about why such a spiffy handheld became so toxic to the people who made it.

    • @DP12321
      @DP12321 2 роки тому +42

      @@Clay3613 PSP sold around 80 million systems. PS Vita sold around 15 million. It's a night and day difference.
      I can 100% guarantee it would have sold better if it didn't have the expensive proprietary memory cards, that killed the Vita from day 1.

    • @Kaimax61
      @Kaimax61 2 роки тому +31

      @@r.r.bigman774 one thing, A NEW PROPRIETARY MEMORY CARD, that is WAY overpriced.
      Like I would be fine if they stuck with the Memory Sticks from the PSP era.. but new and overpriced killed it for me.
      Then the release of games is just slow, to the point it became the PSP again in their later age, where there's barely good western games, but a lot of untranslated Japanese games.

  • @Zargabaath25
    @Zargabaath25 2 роки тому +155

    "Mattrick got rich at 17". Yeah, he talks like he's still 17.
    Also, how could you pull my heart strings with timesplitters, I will now clutch my timesplitters copies and weep.

    • @KetwunsGamingPad
      @KetwunsGamingPad 2 роки тому +11

      Well they can now be played on Xbox One and Series X. They just got whitelisted.

    • @GoodlyPenguin
      @GoodlyPenguin 2 роки тому +3

      BAM. Feel better about Timesplitters now?

    • @alexmott507
      @alexmott507 2 роки тому +1

      And Steve Ellis and David Doak reformed Free Radical back in May of this year to make a new TimeSplitters game!

    • @josephkroll5517
      @josephkroll5517 2 роки тому +1

      I believe the term is arrested development.

  • @RyanMartinez
    @RyanMartinez 3 місяці тому +6

    Essentially:
    Don Mattrick: "I'm just a rich man who doesn't understand your poverty ways."

  • @OG-SoaringFalcon
    @OG-SoaringFalcon 2 роки тому +89

    Very good content :) Sony was brutal in that PS4 E3 conference, got me to switch!
    I actually did listen to Don and kept my 360 and did not buy an Xbox One, until they introduced backward compatibility, and reduced the price to $299! lol

    • @excitedaboutlearning1639
      @excitedaboutlearning1639 2 роки тому +4

      Xbox One was selling for 250€ with 3 games and, if I'm not entirely mistaken, with kinect as well here in late 2014 or early 2015. People still didn't buy them. I bought my PS4 in July 2015 for 380€.

  • @Il_Exile_lI
    @Il_Exile_lI 2 роки тому +243

    The crazy thing about Microsoft's initial direction with the Xbox One was not just how blatantly anti consumer it was, but also how shortsighted it was towards the future. Anyone paying attention in 2013 could have told you that live TV was not a growth industry. Streaming services were far from new and people cutting cable TV from their lives was already a growing trend. It was also obvious that digital game sales were going to grow massively in the very near future. PC gaming was basically already digital only thanks to the popularity of Steam, and console gaming would inevitably follow. Physical games and thus used games were going to slow down all on their own as digital game sales became more commonplace, implementing intrusive features to combat used games was completely unnecessary. Simply offering all games digitally was all that needed to be done for digital game sales to climb and physical sales to diminish, and that's exactly what happened throughout that generation, no physical game restrictions needed. So basically, two of the core design features of the Xbox One were "enhancing" a service fewer people than ever were using (live TV) and fighting a "problem" that was on a slow path towards death all on its own (used games). Their whole focus was totally inept.

    • @gabrieleriva651
      @gabrieleriva651 2 роки тому +6

      Also, the irony with Peter Moore being one of the pioneer of streaming movies.

    • @ingobernoble2678
      @ingobernoble2678 2 роки тому +18

      Right? I remember even then thinking "who the hell even has cable anymore?"
      My parents had it but I didn't know anyone my age in 2013 (21) that bothered getting cable after moving out of their parents house.

    • @ibrohiem
      @ibrohiem 2 роки тому +9

      Yeah the irony is Sony just end up doing exactly what Microsoft was trying to push, and they got away with it dirt free.

    • @grantoden8242
      @grantoden8242 2 роки тому +3

      I think the only other instance I have seen of a company treating their consumer base with such utter disdain was the EA/Battlefront debacle.

    • @nunayadamnbusiness
      @nunayadamnbusiness 2 роки тому +8

      Good point and we'll stated, but I must refute that used games and the pull away from physical media were not aspects that were "going away on their own".. publishers have been intentionally working to chip away at this mountain for over a decade. The reason wasn't *EVER* in the best interest of the consumer..but to control ip, licensing rights, and maximize sales through eliminating the second hand market. You think that Microsoft wasn't in lock-step coordinating with publishers over that? Lol. They were giving them what they wanted. Xbox fell on the sword for them -and the practices never changed. Sony fell on the sword the same way for the publishers when it comes to $70 games.

  • @robofistsrevenge3288
    @robofistsrevenge3288 2 роки тому +223

    Oh man, nothing screamed "How do you do, fellow kids?" louder than a bunch of Microsoft suits telling us to use our _phones_ as a _remote_ to use the internet on a _console._ I wasn't even into gaming at this time, but oh do I remember the backlash to this.
    It almost reminds me of Sony's reveal of the PS Vita: "Let's give the people the most powerful handheld console ever and then prevent them from using it by forcing them to use proprietary memory cards that cost $100+ each! And then just stop supporting the system a year into its lifespan as a punishment for those who _did_ shell out that ungodly amount of cash!"
    EDIT: Also, it's kind of insane just how much Phil Spencer has (and continues to) fixed the Xbox brand. The guy is making people perk up at the sound of "Xbox is ____" for the first time since the original's launch. I don't think he gets enough props for all of that happening under his leadership.

    • @BleedForTheWorld
      @BleedForTheWorld 2 роки тому +3

      Considering how much of a dying brand the Xbox was, I think you still give Phil Spencer too much credit. At the risk of sounding like a contrarian, I assure you that it's a pretty low bar when it comes to consoles and implementing ways on how to play video games on it. Now that I've watched this video, I've thought about it for a bit and realize just how ridiculous the Xbox One name will sound forever and ever. It was meant to be just as they advertised it from the start - a one-in-all system for TV and video games but players and fans were not having it. Such was the height of arrogance when it comes to Microsoft and its products.

    • @weregretohio7728
      @weregretohio7728 2 роки тому +8

      "We have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity, it's called the 360" #dealwithit
      Fuck Mattrick and Orth. You would think a giant, experienced company wouldn't have been that oblivious. How did that undeserved smugness work out for them?

    • @seansachs6105
      @seansachs6105 2 роки тому +2

      What blows my mind is that they even included it. Who do you think you're talking to, fellow millionaires & billionaires? I laughed when I saw that portion of the video because even if you're rich, why would you do it? For cool points? It's way quicker and more convenient to just use your phone or a proprietary remote.
      Also, shout-out to Ed Snowden; he's a big reason I use DuckDuckGo whenever possible and don't have Alexa around the house. I'm not even trying to be ironic. Better news: last year, a US federal court ruled that US Intelligence's mass surveillance program was illegal & possibly Unconstitutional. They also stated that the US intelligence leaders who defended it were not telling the truth.

    • @BleedForTheWorld
      @BleedForTheWorld 2 роки тому +3

      @@seansachs6105 if your neighbors use Alexa, it's still too late for you. Surveillance teams can easily triangulate your position by the lack of noise. There is also nowhere to hide if you have a smartphone. Unless you team up with certain groups of people that wish to place power in the hands of workers and consumers alike, there is no stopping this. It is too late.

    • @seansachs6105
      @seansachs6105 2 роки тому

      @@BleedForTheWorld Maybe. I don't see a reason to be quite that pessimistic...yet, but I'm not afraid of whatever might be coming; I got nothing to hide. That doesn't mean that I have no regrets, but I don't have some embarrassing dark secret I'm keeping from everyone or anything like that.

  • @Sb129
    @Sb129 2 роки тому +41

    I remember those days on /v/ it was so funny, console wars were still in full force back then and seeing the dwindling Xbox faction trying to make those features sound like the best thing ever was hilarious

    • @jeremyzak654
      @jeremyzak654 Рік тому +6

      Sad part is they are still doing it to this day.

  • @matttheradartechnician
    @matttheradartechnician 11 місяців тому +4

    The guy that yelled "Amazing" during the BF4 fail at 35:20 was UberHaxorNova

  • @Haysey_Draws
    @Haysey_Draws 2 роки тому +151

    I remember at the time when that quote "we have a product that will work offline, it's called the 360" was the second i jumped ship. Me and a friend bought PS3's for GTA 5 with the plan to get PS4's i the first year (which we did and still use!) It's incredible how they imploded!
    Great video, always love trying to work out who the voice camo's are!

    • @TheArtunism
      @TheArtunism 2 роки тому +15

      Has that affected you in this current generation? I do know of a lot of people that had 360s, hopped over to PS4, and stuck to playstation with the PS5

    • @SaviorGabriel
      @SaviorGabriel 2 роки тому +22

      For me, the "you're really backwards" line was the last straw for me. Traded in my 360, and games to get a new PS3, and I also got a Wii U for Christmas in 2013, and haven't touched anything with the Xbox name since.

    • @TheArtunism
      @TheArtunism 2 роки тому +6

      @@SaviorGabriel tbh, gamepass looks pretty sexy to me but I am at the point where I’d rather spend time and money on a PC to play Xbox games and maybe get a PS5 a few years from now, after a few price drops. That being said, Returnal looks sooo good

    • @Haysey_Draws
      @Haysey_Draws 2 роки тому +5

      @@TheArtunism as it stands thanks to bloodborne i'm defiantly going for a PS5 (if i can get one any time soon) but i do appreciate all the work Phil has done to repair the brand, but at this point with a PS4 and Switch i just don't have the time for a 3rd console now.

    • @Haysey_Draws
      @Haysey_Draws 2 роки тому +4

      @@SaviorGabriel same. I do really respect the work Phil has done to repair the xbox brand though, getting someone with actual passion for the product was the right call.

  • @Level1Sword
    @Level1Sword 2 роки тому +156

    Phil Harrison has the foresight of a fly near a bug zapper. This guy has the worst timing: he was at Sony during the launch of the PS3, with Microsoft at the launch of the XBone, then was at Google in charge of Stadia. He's almost worse than Mattrick in my book.

    • @IAsimov
      @IAsimov 2 роки тому +28

      You serious? Holy carp. I'm morbidly curious of that man's career. By the sound of it, he's also the definition of failing upwards.

    • @EndlessFunctionality
      @EndlessFunctionality 2 роки тому +4

      A total jynx. Companies really need to stop hiring him.

    • @Carsonj13
      @Carsonj13 2 роки тому

      @@IAsimov He's almost as bad as Bernie Stolar, who ruined Atari, crippled 3DO, and almost single-handedly KILLED Sega...

    • @michaelbreen7865
      @michaelbreen7865 2 роки тому +2

      At least, AT LEAST PS3 and Xbox One were able to bounce back from their respective launches. Stadia was doomed to fail even BEFORE its launch.

    • @michaelbreen7865
      @michaelbreen7865 2 роки тому +1

      @@Carsonj13 Ah yes, Mr. "The Saturn is not our future." Someone should do a retrospective on him.

  • @MicahBuzanANIMATION
    @MicahBuzanANIMATION 2 роки тому +35

    The amount of research you put into these shows. This is high quality work.

  • @CaptainCiph3r
    @CaptainCiph3r 2 роки тому +4

    Hearing the "kinect must remain on." Thing, back in the day... man, I haven't touched an Xbox since the One was announced.

  • @refl9630
    @refl9630 2 роки тому +79

    "That's the world we live in. #dealwithit" That's gotta be one of the most arrogant and out of touch tweets ever. I genuinely thought it was a joke!

    • @johncarolina4950
      @johncarolina4950 2 роки тому +15

      Essentially the republican manifesto lol

    • @RariettyC
      @RariettyC 2 роки тому +7

      If I saw that on my Twitter feed I'd just assume it was something someone would tweet sarcastically to make fun of Microsoft

    • @GA-ys6ud
      @GA-ys6ud 2 роки тому

      That made me buy a ps4

    • @thenifell
      @thenifell 2 роки тому

      I believe that Twitter is where sense goes to die.

    • @refl9630
      @refl9630 2 роки тому +3

      @Hazy 83 there is no discussion where someone does not bring up polarized politics.

  • @shona-sof
    @shona-sof 2 роки тому +157

    I remember being mindblown as this saga originally unfolded. I'm not a defensive fanboy, i go where the exclusives i want are, but that PS4 sharing bit had me laughing my ass off. I didn't think M$ would ever recover.
    If Microsoft hadn't screwed up SO badly, I think that the lack of backwards compatibility for the PS4 would have really hurt Sony.
    The comment about 360 being the offline option was king of bad PR until Blizzard's 'you all have phones, right?' moment.

    • @GoGoggansGo
      @GoGoggansGo 2 роки тому +12

      And to this day the Xbox brand i still paying for it. I know people personally that won’t buy another Xbox on principle alone

    • @warmage247
      @warmage247 2 роки тому

      @@GoGoggansGo How? exactly?

    • @pdraggy
      @pdraggy 2 роки тому +1

      @@warmage247 he said how, people won't buy xbox on principle alone. Do the world a favor and don't try to argue when high it makes you sound dumb.

    • @mountaindew3201
      @mountaindew3201 2 роки тому

      Well man if we think about it. The Xbox 360 was disadvantaged against PS3 but PS3 was boring and had no good games. Xbox 360 relied on games 1st and exclusives. However things turned around and Sony picked it self up and Xbox One went on a 360 backwards. The PS4 exclusives alone would have carry it alone. Just like halo 3 won the console wars for Xbox, uncharted 4 announcement ruined all hopes for Xbox one.

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse Рік тому

      @@GoGoggansGo On principle I won't buy any console now. The last generation I have is the OG XBox and I didn't even buy it, it was a gift. Consider that the PS2 was supposed to do multiple things at launch that subsequent revisions completely removed as features. So if you didn't get in at launch, you were boned.

  • @xraxisxtremestream1511
    @xraxisxtremestream1511 2 роки тому +64

    Pretty much nailed my feelings on the whole situation. I was an avid Xbox 360 user, but their anti consumer attitude made me go with Sony. I do think Phil Spencer has been doing a good job, and Microsoft has knocked it out of the park with Game Pass.

    • @jeremyzak654
      @jeremyzak654 2 роки тому +3

      Now if they can make exclusives that are on the level of Sony, the Xbox can be god tier.

    • @jenerossitea9247
      @jenerossitea9247 2 роки тому +5

      @@jeremyzak654 you are missing the point of what Microsoft is doing the past few years entirely. they don't care about exclusives at all. The main priority with Xbox is getting Gamepass/Xcloud on as many devices as possible and in turn getting as many people subscribing and using it as possible. Even there exclusives are no longer exclusive since they put them on Steam/Windows Store on PC.

    • @KingAgniKai
      @KingAgniKai Рік тому

      @@jenerossitea9247 at some point they'll stop making consoles and will put Gamepass on PlayStation and Nintendo.

    • @jenerossitea9247
      @jenerossitea9247 Рік тому +2

      @@KingAgniKai the current generation of gamers will be long dead before that happens though. That's long into the future

    • @KingAgniKai
      @KingAgniKai Рік тому +1

      @@jenerossitea9247 i doubt it. It didn't take that long for SEGA to throw in the towel.

  • @Zerostealthman
    @Zerostealthman 2 роки тому +2

    These videos are so high-quality at such an amazing length. Feel so lucky to have found this channel thank you for making great work I appreciate all the small details like excerpts being read by different people. Very well written and enjoyable

  • @lolzlolz102
    @lolzlolz102 2 роки тому +31

    2013 "Always Online"
    2021 "Always out of stock".

    • @Milkmytoe
      @Milkmytoe 3 місяці тому +4

      Series x is selling worst then the one and getting beat worst by ps5

    • @fortunamajor7239
      @fortunamajor7239 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Milkmytoe *worse & than

    • @firecrackerjack68
      @firecrackerjack68 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Milkmytoejesus, did you even go to school?

  • @masonwhite3698
    @masonwhite3698 2 роки тому +316

    32:30
    Thank you for drawing attention to that, because it was just so perfect. I had to pause and just contemplate the fact that, going into E3, the Xbox One's most liked feature was the fact that you could turn its features off. The highlight of the console is the fact that you can tell it to stop. What a fucking brilliant piece of hardware.

    • @brandonselitetv1436
      @brandonselitetv1436 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah but the kinect had to be plugged in at all times.

    • @Karlach_
      @Karlach_ 7 місяців тому +1

      lmfao when you put it like that it's 10x times funnier. Microsoft shot itself in the foot then and still hasn't recovered from it now. The PS5 has sold tens of millions more than the XBSX.

    • @GTAbestplayer123
      @GTAbestplayer123 3 місяці тому

      ​​@@brandonselitetv1436Luckily Microsoft patched the kinect requirement out because Xbox One S and X don't come with the kinect. 😂

  • @samakechijowo
    @samakechijowo Рік тому +7

    One of my most favorite video of yours that I go back to from time to time. Fascinating story

  • @Michael18751
    @Michael18751 2 роки тому +6

    38:22 I mean they just NOW fixed CBOMB, so cool.

    • @StopSkeletonsFromFighting
      @StopSkeletonsFromFighting  2 роки тому +2

      I’ve only become aware of that whole mess since finishing this video. It’ll definitely be a topic for our follow-up to this.

    • @JoshWitte
      @JoshWitte 3 місяці тому

      ​@@StopSkeletonsFromFighting PLEASE do an update/follow-up to this video once the recent rumors about Xbox "exclusives" coming to PlayStation consoles are officially confirmed. Would be a hugely popular and relevant topic. If you start working on a script now, if you haven't already, you could probably beat almost everyone else to upload as soon as Microsoft makes an official statement on it.

  • @hind__
    @hind__ 2 роки тому +69

    The Snowden stuff seriously happening during the height of the Xbox One controversy is crazy... really puts stuff into perspective. I remember those things happening seperately at the same time, but never put them together.

    • @billy5642
      @billy5642 2 роки тому +3

      I was originally going to get an Xbone but changed my mind after Snowden and Prism was found out. No way was I going to let the NSA watch and listen to me. Never got an 8th gen console until my PS4 Pro in 2019.

  • @Inkmonkeywoodis
    @Inkmonkeywoodis 2 роки тому +78

    I remember for years after this I still knew people who thought the Xbone couldn't play used games or that it needed to always be online. These were just casual gamers who didn't follow the news regularly... they just knew the bad PR, moved over to the PS4, and never double checked on it again.

    • @valletas
      @valletas 2 роки тому +6

      Its like how people though the wiiu was just an addon to the wii but worse because they can at least go to a store and see that the wii u is a whole console with the xbox they just never bothered

    • @chasejackson7248
      @chasejackson7248 2 роки тому

      Now in 2021 you have to download updates for games if you even want to start the game.

    • @excitedaboutlearning1639
      @excitedaboutlearning1639 2 роки тому +1

      @@valletas I live in Finland, and I haven't seen a single ad for Wii U. Now, I'm constantly bombarded by Switch ads. Nintendo wasn't good at digital advertising at the time either-no wonder people thought Wii U was an extension to Wii.

  • @CannonRaw
    @CannonRaw 2 роки тому +1

    Remembering most of this. Nice to see all put together cohesively and solidly. Really put together as a whole nicely thank you.

  • @RileysFilms
    @RileysFilms 2 роки тому +5

    I'd completely forgotten about this. Thanks for awakening this beautiful memory.

  • @odinsplaygrounds
    @odinsplaygrounds 2 роки тому +165

    I remember how shockingly terrible the reveal was... and I was even more stocked the next day to see certain people actually attempt to defend it.

    • @winlover37
      @winlover37 2 роки тому +32

      There will always be apologists.

    • @SamsarasArt
      @SamsarasArt 2 роки тому +6

      @@winlover37 you got that right

    • @thenifell
      @thenifell 2 роки тому +2

      @@kcadventures1454 why do I get the feeling that they were the ones to stop hanging out with you? Lol

    • @BawesomeBurf
      @BawesomeBurf 2 роки тому +10

      Lol, I remember being in the forums on Gamefaqs, and for every 100 people trashing XBone, there were about 5 people claiming they were really hyped for Microsoft's vision.

    • @Scorpio--
      @Scorpio-- 2 роки тому +8

      It's truly amazing the mental gymnastics fanboys go through over a silly brand.

  • @catb0mb
    @catb0mb 2 роки тому +58

    "It's a good dog." should just be the de facto objective review for CoD ghosts.

  • @AthosJosue
    @AthosJosue 2 роки тому +12

    From almost leaving the videogame industry to buying Activision-Blizzard, that's quite the change of direction.

    • @MungkaeX
      @MungkaeX 3 місяці тому +1

      Can’t stop a monopoly from forming if the courts have been bought.🤷‍♂️

  • @michaelbreen7865
    @michaelbreen7865 2 роки тому +4

    "I wonder what Phil Harrison is doing now?" A question pondered by people that haven't heard of Stadia.

  • @novelezra
    @novelezra 2 роки тому +101

    Oh my god. I remember that E3 like it was YESTERDAY.
    The second I heard that the XBOX ONE would be online only and no 2nd hand game market, I felt like crying. Because I immediately thought "Oh god, if Microsoft do it, then so will Nintendo and Sony"
    Then, when Sony did the OPPOSITE and used it against them, I felt so much schadenfreude. And to see MS back down? That, was one of the most important moments in gaming and I feel like everyone has forgot it already.
    And now, the fact that MS are now the leaders of backwards compatibility and Xbox gaming on PC, to the point where Sony are trying to catch up?
    Just shows the importance of competition.

    • @desklaser
      @desklaser 2 роки тому +11

      If you really want to get into it, their way of “backwards compatibility” with virtual machines and emulation is really no different than the “PS2 on PS4” games. Neither machine is running the native original version of the games. To get that true backwards compatibility you have to do what the PS3 did and essentially include the guts of a PS2 inside those initial launch PS3s. This was a factor of that initial $600 price tag. So many people claim backwards compatibility is such an important feature but I highly doubt they are willing to pay the amount of money it would take for a PS5 or Series X to include that much additional hardware to really make that happen.

    • @goeland4585
      @goeland4585 2 роки тому +4

      @@desklaser i'm playing skate 3 right now on my xbox one x. It may be a virtual machine and not running on "real" hardware but it's still miles better than running it on ps3 or 360, so... I don't really get what you're trying to say.

    • @zingbanana
      @zingbanana 2 роки тому

      and, at least for now, sony and nintendo still understand the massive market of physical and offline stuff.

    • @weregretohio7728
      @weregretohio7728 2 роки тому +6

      Microsoft laid its head on the sidewalk and invited Sony to curbstomp it. It's baffling. They really thought people were going to "please sir can I have another" their crappy anti-consumer console.

    • @LordArikado
      @LordArikado 2 роки тому +3

      @@desklaser If anything, the emulation route that Microsoft took with its backwards compatibility is better than making it hardware-based. It's cost effective, you can still use your physical copies (unlike PS2 on PS4), and most games have massively improved performance compared to running them on the consoles they originally launched on. I don't see why Sony's execs can't get it through their thick skulls that people LIKE not having to keep old, dying hardware around just to play their old games. PS4 BC on PS5 is a step in the right direction, and PS3 is so complicated that streaming through PS Now is honestly the only viable option with currently-available tech, but PS2 and ESPECIALLY PS1 backwards compatibility should've been a no-brainer when fan-made emulators have been able to do it better than Sony for years now.

  • @devirka
    @devirka 2 роки тому +174

    So glad you covered the NSA mass spying incident. That was a huge issue for me and mang I knew, but almost all gamers that do retrospect’s on this terrible launch seem to skip that entirely.

    • @mountaindew3201
      @mountaindew3201 2 роки тому

      Yup. I bet you most Xbox owners still don’t know that. Only reason I knew abkut nsa taking control of Xbox was through a GameStop employee.

    • @iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013
      @iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013 Рік тому

      Especially because, if you actually read the leaked documents, Microsoft was the only one of the major tech companies that just gave the NSA free reign rather than needing to be infiltrated or hacked. There was absolutely no reason for *anyone* to trust Microsoft with that kind of access to their homes. There still isn't.

  • @invincigaz4067
    @invincigaz4067 7 місяців тому +4

    Great vid D, i remember all that playing out in real time, i don't think they've ever fully recovered. Keep going hard man!

  • @cloudair4154
    @cloudair4154 2 роки тому +2

    great video! i actually forgot about some of this.. that thing where the kinect takes inventory of how many people are in your room watching a movie and charges u more money or whatever was completely ridiculous

  • @ChaosAngel209
    @ChaosAngel209 2 роки тому +113

    Wow, what a $#&%show. I was there when all of this things happened and it felt pretty bad. But somehow revisiting the whole Xbox One saga made it feel worse. I couldn’t stop cringing and laughing during the whole video. The last part almost killed me. Thanks Uncle Derek and Produced Grace for brining so much joy to our lives.

    • @figgynewton5664
      @figgynewton5664 2 роки тому

      I think entire E3 that year was cringe, nothing to talk about cause all lame, so everyone just hated Xbox to have clicks.

  • @WrestlingWithGaming
    @WrestlingWithGaming 2 роки тому +193

    Damn. You guys absolutely killed it with this video. It's insane how out of touch Mattrick was. I remember wondering if the guy was actively trying to sabotage Xbox or something.

    • @TangomanX2008
      @TangomanX2008 2 роки тому +2

      It would be unterrsting what group dynamics were involves in the upper echelons of the Microsoft running the Xbox. There must have been some team dysfunction going on.

    • @jasonsmith530
      @jasonsmith530 2 роки тому +1

      If you’re old enough to remember ps3 did the same thing

    • @TangomanX2008
      @TangomanX2008 2 роки тому

      @@jasonsmith530 nope. the roll out fiasco for the 360 was at a whole different level. It isn't the same thing. Kudos to Microsoft for turning things around though.
      (I was around long before that roll out. I still vaguely remember the 84 video game collapse and the Nintendo's NES roll out with that stupid little robot).

    • @dooplon5083
      @dooplon5083 2 роки тому +2

      @@TangomanX2008 to be fair that robot was actually genius, if toy stores wouldn't sell the console because of the market crash, have them sell it as a weird toy with a robot that plays games (and yeah, from what I recall nintendo did get outright rejected at trade-shows by companies because they wanted to sell the system as normal game console with a more console-like aesthetic).

    • @TangomanX2008
      @TangomanX2008 2 роки тому

      @@dooplon5083 well yeah. Its probably one of the most successful gimmicks ive ever known. The other gimmick was the convoluted mechanism to insert the "Game Pack" into the NES.

  • @Matty_Ice87
    @Matty_Ice87 5 місяців тому +2

    So glad UA-cam put this in my feed. Excellent work my friend

  • @dannydk6
    @dannydk6 2 роки тому +6

    Very well made documentary. I always love hearing your takes Derek!

  • @Olivia-mh8wq
    @Olivia-mh8wq 2 роки тому +58

    Man, I remember that disastrous interview where he states that the 360 is the product for people without internet access. I loved my 360, and I was so hyped up for the next xbox. That interview, coupled with all of the inept press conferences, immediately killed any desire I had to stick with the Xbox brand.

    • @daniels4474
      @daniels4474 2 роки тому +2

      I remember getting so mad at Microsoft. After years of loyalty, they treated their customers like trash. It took me two year to buy the xbox one. I almost bought a PS4, but all my buddies were xbox gamers.

  • @BewbsOP
    @BewbsOP 2 роки тому +93

    Goddamn dude, there is "not listening to your fans" and then there's hearing your fans and then literally spitting in their face and the line "We have a product for people who aren't able to get [...] connectivity and that's xbox 360" is firmly in that last camp.

    • @BearArmyCadet27951
      @BearArmyCadet27951 2 роки тому +5

      Don Mattrick had zero faith in the Xbox Brand,if anyone should be blamed for the Xbox One launch it should be him. He was the CEO at the time, not long after the launch he left for Zynga. Phil Spencer is a better leader than dumbass Don.

    • @malif1279
      @malif1279 2 роки тому +7

      @@BearArmyCadet27951 mans really didn't even give much of a heads up before he left
      He was the greatest free promotion the PS4 ever got

    • @BearArmyCadet27951
      @BearArmyCadet27951 2 роки тому

      @@malif1279I definitely agree with that.

    • @Jdb63
      @Jdb63 2 роки тому +1

      @@BearArmyCadet27951 I'm sure he started looking for a new position immediately after the public backlash assuming Microsoft would ask him to resign

  • @joshsweet7512
    @joshsweet7512 2 роки тому +2

    Got to be maybe my 20th rewatch, and only now have I noticed the amazing title screen during the conference.
    Touche, good folks, touche.

  • @vallaurianv6024
    @vallaurianv6024 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing video! Really well made. 47 minutes and I wanted more still! Will start watching more of your work if it’s this calibre!

  • @meaninglez100
    @meaninglez100 2 роки тому +63

    It really is amazing how both Sony's competitors absolutely just fell over themselves while Sony just had to casually stroll to the finish line

    • @anen9332
      @anen9332 2 роки тому +10

      You could make the same argument about the PSX versus Saturn and N64.

    • @meaninglez100
      @meaninglez100 2 роки тому

      @@anen9332 Yeah but you'd think they'd learn by this point

    • @RippahRooJizah
      @RippahRooJizah 2 роки тому +15

      @@meaninglez100 As far as Saturn and N64, they kinda did learn. Many of Sega's issues stemmed from bad choices, rushing, and internal issues between SoA and SoJ, and Sega eventually dropped out of consoles. Nintendo saw how their decision to stick with carts didn't turn out well and it was the start of a long period of lacking 3rd party support (As I say, the PSX had as many or more good games as N64 had games, period). Took them 1 gen to move onto disc systems (even if they wanted to be weird about it), and 4 gens to get good, consistent 3rd party support.

    • @Abel-Alvarez
      @Abel-Alvarez 2 роки тому +1

      @@anen9332 And *ESPECIALLY* the Playstation 2 versus the dreamcast, gamecube, and OG xbox.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 2 роки тому

      @@RippahRooJizah well at the time, in the mid-90s, most CD-based consoles were noisy, unreliable, had long load times, and were stupid expensive (699 for the 3DO!). So sticking with cartridges wasn't a bad decision. It was making it difficult to develop for that really didn't help.

  • @Duskets
    @Duskets 2 роки тому +133

    Ah yes, the Xbone: when “how do you do, fellow kids?” became a console.

  • @originalscreenname44
    @originalscreenname44 Рік тому +4

    It’s funny how you can see history repeat itself with Stadia: the massive misunderstanding of what people wanted, the absolute hubris of thinking an always online gaming device would be widely accepted (including expecting the ISPs to “come around” on data caps), and getting demolished by a competitor doing the most basic thing with their competing product… which, hilariously, was Microsoft.

  • @twitchykun
    @twitchykun Рік тому +7

    It's been ten years since that launch, and honestly, Microsoft hasn't recovered from this.
    Edit: IT GOT WORSE

    • @0Synergy
      @0Synergy Рік тому +5

      I don't think they ever truly will. They made lifelong Sony fans.

  • @Jesse__H
    @Jesse__H 2 роки тому +45

    Microsoft damaged their brand so badly during that period. I _loved_ my 360 but I never once considered getting an xbone after the shit they tried to pull.

  • @weregretohio7728
    @weregretohio7728 2 роки тому +68

    I love how arrogant he was and then the customers smacked him into last week.
    "jUsT bUy tHe 360." *spongebob meme*
    AKA "don't you guys have phones?"
    Gamers can do good things sometimes, if they try hard enough.

  • @Gryzeus
    @Gryzeus 2 роки тому +4

    Wonderful retrospective, perfect length, excited for more like this.

  • @GameTesterBootCamp
    @GameTesterBootCamp 3 місяці тому +3

    People don't seem to realize just how much the failure of Don Mattrick is STILL reverberating through the Xbox brand. Like Phil Spencer said, "We lost the most important console generation" when referring to the Xbox One. And, he's 100% correct. That was the generation where it was more about getting people into your ecosystem, than it was selling consoles. Xbox, failed at both.

  • @BoxiesAU
    @BoxiesAU 2 роки тому +38

    Mattrick had absolutely no idea what people actually wanted. How could he be so detached? He takes a jet to work daily 😂

  • @Meyeselph
    @Meyeselph 2 роки тому +44

    God I've literally been waiting for in depth historical context for this disaster since the day it happened. Keeping in touch with gaming news during this was like a fever dream. Never had I seen a company ride so high and then be so certain that all its decision makers were addicted to cocaine.

  • @BlountForce
    @BlountForce Рік тому +2

    Excellent video! I love seeing how oblivious these guys were

  • @Danton1990
    @Danton1990 Рік тому +3

    I knew that was Maffew! Hearing Matt McMuscles’ voice was fantastic as well! What a great video!

  • @dduuddeechil
    @dduuddeechil 2 роки тому +119

    Man remembering how bad the backlash was insane, as a poor teenager playing on my 360, hearing all of this really sunk my hopes for the Xbox One. Glad they really turned around everything, especially with Game Pass

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 2 роки тому

      which you still gotta pay for

    • @007BlackCanary
      @007BlackCanary 2 роки тому +19

      @@GiordanDiodato If an xbox user is going to be playing online they would need xbox live. So they usually just get game pass because xbox live is included. With that in mind it's actually not a bad value

    • @nicholasgeere5125
      @nicholasgeere5125 2 роки тому +1

      @@007BlackCanary I play online for free every day of my life on pc

    • @TheFallofTheEleventh
      @TheFallofTheEleventh 2 роки тому +7

      @@nicholasgeere5125 Who asked?
      Edit: also no you don’t “play for free” lol you pay for your internet access like anyone else. No one “plays for free” so drop it already it’s boring

    • @nicholasgeere5125
      @nicholasgeere5125 2 роки тому

      @@TheFallofTheEleventh you pay for your internet access too, not sure how that was supposed to be a gotcha but go off king

  • @GreyWolfLeaderTW
    @GreyWolfLeaderTW 2 роки тому +189

    It should be noted that it came out later Sony was willing to do all the same stuff the Microsoft came out first regarding fees for used games and always-online DRM. They just saw what a PR disaster it was for Microsoft and scrambled to scrap all of that for the PS4.

    • @BloodyAltima
      @BloodyAltima 2 роки тому +61

      Wise men learn from the faceplants of others.

    • @mr.goblin6039
      @mr.goblin6039 2 роки тому +44

      Sony really saved their asses, then. They saw Xbox basically shoot themselves in the foot and, thankfully, backed down from that nonsense. It took a long time for the Xbox to get people’s trust back and some STILL don’t want to play on Xbox because of this.

    • @blaacksugar7714
      @blaacksugar7714 2 роки тому +38

      This is why I never went first in a class presentation. You'll see a LOT of mistakes that people always make.

    • @cyxceven
      @cyxceven 2 роки тому +40

      Let's not forget Sony would have happily not fixed the CBOMB bug on PS4/5 if nobody had found out about it.
      Plus they still haven't fixed it for PS3.

    • @B33FY2011
      @B33FY2011 2 роки тому +4

      @@mr.goblin6039 I won't touch another Xbox since 360. The red ring of death was enough to make me never want anything to do with Xbox again. I know it's not just me that went through it but I had 4 consoles within a year and half red ring. 2 were brand new and 2 were refurbs from Microsoft. One of those consoles red ringed within 30 minutes of getting back a supposedly repaired console and the other refurb completely died within 3 weeks of getting back. The two new consoles died within a year and that was it for me with Xbox.
      I did buy an Xbox One but for my son as he has always played Xbox over PlayStation. I seen for myself the whole no exclusives problem with the Xbox One. So I was really glad I didn't waste my money on one because the only game the Xbox has ever had that I have ever been interested in is the Forza Horizon series. So for me I made the right decision to never own one and now since I have been PlayStation and wouldn't ever look back.

  • @emarskineel
    @emarskineel 3 місяці тому +5

    I skipped the xbox one for one simple reason: they didn't release a single game that interested me the ENTIRE generation

  • @supersquare
    @supersquare 2 роки тому +8

    LOVED THIS!!!! Amazing work you all, so emotional and so hilarious!!

  • @PheonixOTE
    @PheonixOTE 2 роки тому +17

    Fun fact: I was a hardware/software beta tester for the Kinect. The nda was insane for it lol.
    Still have my beta hardware sitting in my closet. :/

  • @SpaceCaptainHellers
    @SpaceCaptainHellers 2 роки тому +235

    That Sony "How to share a ps4 game" advert was absolutely savage to watch at the time. It was absolutely hilarious and utterly brutal.
    Do a video about the moves Microsoft made during the XBox One era that lead to the Series X/S being a really good choice.

    • @warmage247
      @warmage247 2 роки тому +3

      Epic idea.

    • @ZeRTO_13
      @ZeRTO_13 2 роки тому +2

      Everything now from Xbox One reveal is common. Consoles are always connected, digital downloading over physical. I got a Series X and I miss being able to switch to my cable TV thru a quick app instead of finding the TV remote and changing input and losing my friend game invite notifications.

    • @DarkAnon100
      @DarkAnon100 2 роки тому +23

      @@ZeRTO_13 the problem wasnt that thr console had to be plugged online at all time, i mean all of the consoles of that generation and of the previous already did it, the problem was that if you wanted to play with the damn thing, you had to be online or the console wouldnt let you play games, which , while it's normal for multiplayer games, is REALLY stupid when you are playing single player games

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse Рік тому +1

      I disagree, I don't think any of them are a good choice.

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine Рік тому +3

      The comeback was a no-mans-sky turn around but you only get one chance to make first impressions. Mattrick is a brilliant example of the problem with overpaid executives, he was so rich he didn't care about costing his company billions.

  • @langstonbelin
    @langstonbelin 3 місяці тому +8

    This is the day Xbox died.

  • @MatthewOceanXVX
    @MatthewOceanXVX 2 роки тому +5

    What a rad video from you guys. I'm not an Xbox guy, but this was incredibly interesting and also helped cement why I'm not an Xbox guy lmao. Always look forward to the content. Glad this one is grabbing a lot of attention, well deserved.

  • @NickTheEnlightened
    @NickTheEnlightened 2 роки тому +66

    I was 13 when all of this took place and I still remember this stuff like it happened yesterday. Microsoft REALLY dropped the ball when they initially announced the Xbox One!

    • @GoldnPea
      @GoldnPea 2 роки тому

      Same, I was 12 at the time when this all happened I was very disappointed, but still had slight hope for Xbox

    • @0uttaS1TE
      @0uttaS1TE 2 роки тому +1

      Same here. Kinda insane how they turned it around in recent years

    • @saadhasan2518
      @saadhasan2518 2 роки тому

      I was 10 at the time and honestly didn't buy a XB1 until XB1 X Don Mattrick really ruined things and it's nice that they've moved past the kinect phase I just never liked the machine at all

  • @Swordslinger-hb1ns
    @Swordslinger-hb1ns 2 роки тому +75

    No wonder Don Mattrick isn’t with Microsoft anymore. They fired his ass.

    • @saintrocketIX
      @saintrocketIX 2 роки тому +34

      Unfortunately, they only let him go, and didn't literally fire him out of a cannon.

    • @TechniqueSan
      @TechniqueSan 2 роки тому +6

      It's unbelievable how unlikeable he was, it's like he went out of his way to destroy their brand chances for that gen.

    • @KetwunsGamingPad
      @KetwunsGamingPad 2 роки тому +1

      He signed with Zynga, he left on his own. They really fired him after doing that behind their backs as it was a conflict of interest if you aren't transparent with your priorities.

    • @Swordslinger-hb1ns
      @Swordslinger-hb1ns 2 роки тому +3

      @@KetwunsGamingPad I still view Mattrick in the same way I view former Sega of America president Bernard Stoller: a delusional moron with selfish interest and taking the fans for granted.

    • @Swordslinger-hb1ns
      @Swordslinger-hb1ns 2 роки тому +3

      @@TechniqueSan you can thank Phil Spencer for pulling the Xbox One from its grave and give it some life after Mattrick pumped it full of buckshot after taking it behind the barn.

  • @DarthMercanto
    @DarthMercanto 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve never seen this channel before. This was really fun and comprehensive. I’ll definitely subscribe.