To this day, I can't understand what motivated our creators to rise up against us. Had they gone mad? Had we failed them in some way? In the end, it really didn't matter. The Kaminoans had to be stopped and their army of treacherous gene cousins destroyed. The first few kills were the hardest. Afterall, it's hard not to get a little spooked when the enemy screams with your voice. We shook it off and did our job. Most of the troopers never knew about Kamino. Like a lot of things in the Empire, it never really happened." This is the original kamino mission commentary.
Yeah, it was really shocking to see clones killing each other, almost making us forget that they stuck up for one another and even sacrificed their lives to defend their birth place. But as the campaign had mentioned that these new clones were treacherous gene cousins, but no longer were they even considered brothers, the empire changed a lot of things, especially everyone who was in it from the beginning to the end.
I can see why they removed that. The Kaminoans and clones hated each other. So much so that once the war was over, one clone commander (forget which one) flayed alive and made gloves from his Kaminoan handler for what she did to him and his brothers.
"Brief and pointless battle on Tantiv 4"- Vietnam flashbacks to the rocket, thermal detonator, and automatic fire of that opening hallway. And the Swarm of Rebels as you frantically search for Leia on the confusing map.
Imagine if this game was actually remastered. Having the campaign and other maps that weren’t included in the campaign on current gen would be AMAZING!!
"What I remember about the rise of the empire.......IS HOW YOU HAVE NOT BOUGHT THE GOLD ELITE SEASON BATTLE PASS+ BUY IT NOW FOR THE SMALL PRICE OF £100 AND YOU WILL UNLOCK THE 501 FORTNIGHT SKIN"
The Avatar bro chill. Clone wars was not that brutal it was still rated y7 and its all super clean. Still awesome and brutal but cmon now lmao you’re comparing a show intended for kids to the two most destructive conflicts in human history
I can imagine the interview situation for the journal: The old veteran commands an intimidating presence, altough he has been discharged for a while his posture is still that of a soldier, the row of medals on his chest and the scars on his face tell the story of a man born to be a soldier, a man born to serve. He had seen the glory and downfall of the Republic and rise of the Empire, every time he closes his eyes he sees the faces of thousands of his brothers who gave their lives fightng to first uphold the Republic and then to build the Empire, it was their Empire, they had built it with blood, sweat and blaster bolts. He has no regrets, he fought the war like he was trained and ordered to do, he has no interest in politics, he does not complain about the Empires non-glamorous treatment of clone veterans, he is a soldier to the very end, he knows he and all his brothers fulfilled their duties with honour, that is all he cares about, that is all he needs to know.
Or follow what is said, and that the BIG GAMER MOMENT, is that in the game's story they really did finish off the rebels on hoth. The 501st could do it mate.
@@NK-hl8nw 2005 edition Star Wars: Battlefront 2 EA made a "remake" but its just a flashy cash-grab. They tossed the campaign to the curb in order to try and sell you more junk. The original can still be found on steam or GoG, I have it on both so I can do LAN coop with my brother.
Especially if your the last man and the enemy has 100 plus troops. That last man feeling, hugging the ammo droid, trying to heal with the medical droid while not get yourself or the healing droid shot
There was a Imperial Clone named TK-662. He only appreciated the clones and kinda disliked the new guys since they thought of the clones as human droids.
What's sad is that many of the new guys were probably great soldiers. They just weren't genetically perfect soldiers. Imagine the U.S. Marines being considered bumbling, weak and incompetent, just because you're comparing them to living terminators.
It’s hilarious to think how this game was rushed and yet the game managed 4 game modes, introduced heroes, improved galactic conquest, and can still humiliate EA’s rebooted battlefront.
I always thought that after the clone uprising on Kamino the line were Boba Fett "said something about tracking down a smuggler on Tatooine" was pretty funny and clever.
Imagining how the clones where actually killing their brothers, on their homeworld was very close to inconceivable. Especially during the clone wars when they fought side by side and honored brotherhood and would even defend their home from the separatists. But know the roles are different, They have become the attacker, and their newly born rejected brethren have become defenders of the last known hint of what they were like during the clone wars.
it was tropish bad writing "Make sure you drop callbacks to the original trilogy characters and of course include all of them. ohh lets make vader a combat officer!". bad bad writing
It really has been that long, they fought to end the war during the clone wars, and they still fought to end the war during the civil war. But in the end, they simply deteriorated to the point where they just became target practice for the rebellion, even the clones that were left during the civil war either got moved into vader's fist, became purge troopers, or just ordinary imperials that struggled to see such inferior individuals replace the once glorious army they once knew. It must have been "Five Long Years of Hell" "Captain Cutter".
Rockabilly Joe - only officially. In starwars lore most of the planets keep fighting after after the separatists collapse. They also fought rebellions for years.
Rockabilly Joe The main bodies of the clone wars fought for about 4 to 4 and a half years of I remember correctly. The *First Battle of Geonosis* all the way to *Order 66* essentially mark the duration of the Clone Wars in full. Naturally, with so many planets, after the Empire was created, they had a few Separatist hold outs, but the war was essentially over after the Republic, and I quote: “reorganized into the first, galactic empire”! -Palpatine, AKA “The Senate” Anakin killed most of the Separatist War leaders during Order 66, when he went to Mustafar and he killed all those men and bankers before Obi Wan showed up. So basically, the combined events of the _Jedi Purge,_ the _Death of the Separatist War Leaders,_ and the _Republic’s transition into the Empire,_ all essentially marked the end of the Clone War.
@@royrogers3133 Yeah, but we know when Anakin was knighted as Darth Vader it was 19 years from that point until Episode 4. So I think the question was meant to.ask "How long was the clone wars fought until the end of episode 3?"
The journals always showed me the humane side of the Imperial troops instead of what we see in the movies of them as ruthless killers who can’t aim. It shows the obvious distress and detachment to life they were accustomed to
@@Magavynhigara Surely if some other canon existed, it would be erased from the minds of decent people and banished to the same realm of dead timelines that say... a hypothetical Starwars Christmas special would be banished to, or a live-action He-man movie or Mario Brothers Movie. And we know no such three things have ever existed.
I have disliked alot of the changes Disney has made, the whole inhibitor chips in the clones really urked me, i loved how the Clones were conflicted, they are Soldiers, they did their jobs, did they like it no, but how the felt is irrelevent, it made them more nuisanced instead of "a control chip made me do it" and the Kyber crystals are now sentient and the color changes dependin on the user, lightsabers to MoodSabers "feeling cute and sith today, maybe slay some younglings"
@@devildavin I personally enjoy the Kyber crystal thing. I think it adds a little layer of mysticism back to the lightsaber that had been lost. Everything else? *eeehhh*
The Galactic Civil War is heavily influenced by the Clone Wars from a lore perspective, and the Clone Wars are heavily influenced by the Galactic Civil War from a writing perspective. I would love to see this channel cover both
Must suck living in a universe with constant civil war, between two religions that only allow incorporate 0.000000000000000000000000000000001% of the galactic population.
“I don’t have much to say about this subject. After the Empire got established, I got out of the army as soon as I could collect a pension, and started a business.” -CS/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
Thomas Alvarez developing. Trying to play around with various settings, since setting is one of the important parts of the Star Wars motif. I know, however, that is basic story is that he was born into the 442nd Siege Battalion as a sergeant and heavy trooper, saw some battles, rose through ranks, learned some things, met people, did some interesting missions with the Doom’s Unit and republic intelligence. He became a scout, got promoted to captain, got hurt really badly between assignments, Lost his arm and received brain damage, participated in the battle of Cato Nemoidia as a scout, left the army post order 66, and established a guild of scouts who can survey, provide battlefield support, do mercenary work, and collect small bounties for various clients.
"They've sent in the supers!" Other Clone: dude, really? Were fighting rebels. "Watch those wrist rockets!" Clone: he's having flashbacks again. He'll be fine.
A good video, but I'd honestly like a bit more of a detailed breakdown of the 501st. You completely ignored the morality for the Naboo mission, where they said they sent emissaries back in "various states of dismemberment."
Shadow Elite 117 - As the video said, this is Part 2, with Part 1 being “the journal of the unknown 501st soldier (something something “being so dark”) “. That one focused on the 501st during the Clone Wars and the Empire.
Battlefront EA version could have been an amazing game in an of itself if they just remastered the campaign it would have been like i was a kid again too bad.
This was one of my favorite campaigns of all time, especially the gameplay because it gave us another perspective to understand what the iconic events were like to the empire instead of just another typical story of good vs evil and good wins again kind of thing. But their thoughts I feel like were more direct and focused on how they viewed the situation both from a personal and a duty sense, which helped the immersion so much. What I wish they would do is remake this campaign in the modern battlefront 2 with awesome graphics and perhaps touch upon the "Star Wars: Republic Commando sequel" that we will never get when the story takes us into the jedi temple for order 66. This campaign was very enjoyable and really helped many people see how not only the rebels were taking casualties, but the empire and its soldiers were as well. I guess the question at the end of the day is which side do you like, "Heads or Tails" like "Empire or Rebels" (P.S you should make more content like this, it is really interesting to know there are others who like learning about both sides of the war instead of just one.)
That intro of yours just hit me in the face with a war-hammer forged from pure nostalgia. ... Holy shit, it's been too long since i've heard that sound.
Yeah, it really is terrible when the story mentions how their fighting force was crippling, their morale was crippling with every casualty, their once closely held bond of brotherhood was being erased as new diverse recruits took the place of their past brethren. Not to mention that old allies became foes and new enemies were capitalizing on their weaknesses due to all this change, which really took its toll on the ancient relic that is the 501st.
Shadow Elite 117 Imagine losing half the fighting force of one of the elite battalions in your army in a single incident. The morale of the 501st would have severely deterioriated but there was way too many that are battle hardened from decades of fighting. They lost brothers that they literally grew up with from birth and used their deaths to motivate them to eradicate the rebellion.
I dont feel too bad for them. They defended an empire that oppressed its citizens and stripped away the liberties and freedom people had under imperial rule. Idk, I just cant feel bad for the clones and soilders that supported Imperial rule lol. They arent fighting for the Republic anymore..
Chris McCann More people died under Rebel jurisdiction than Imperial rule. Less than 10 percent of Imperial worlds ever saw an intensive stormtrooper occupation besides Military worlds. The only regions of the galaxy that legitimately had problems with the Empire were the former CIS worlds which were in the outer rim anyway. Sources are Tarkin, Rots
@@Chris-cx3bk Gotta ask, how verse are you in star wars lore? I for sure thought the same for a long time, but as read more into the lore I started switching perspectives. The Empire, in general terms, was like a necessary evil. I can't defend their every action, but for the most part the galaxy was better than it had been for a long time. The Republic was very old and corruption was rampant. After the Empire took over they brought stability into the galaxy.
As someone who always roots for the Empire, this game was perfect. This is why I despise the new Battlefront game. Only two missions and then suddenly we switch to Rebel Scum!
Lmfao I love how they clearly used gameplay footage for their cutscenes because at 9:57, they show the choked out rebel soldier drop a health and ammo pack when he dies
No. Even before the Disney wipe, I never liked the Battlefront 2 narrative, and I still don't. Also, fuck the "everyone loves the old EU and hates Disney" narrative.
I agree. The journals were thrown together in a rush, and make the clones to have known all along they were going to kill the Jedi. It makes zero sense.
@@histguy101 Order 66 was a contingency plan. One out of 150 covering nearly all possible scenarios, and the clones had memorized all 150 orders. Why would they not know about it?
@@NEETKitten Ok, and classic BF2 makes it sound like the clones were planning on executing this one single contingency plan throughout the whole war. How could they know they were going to execute "order 66" before the order went out, or even before the Jedi attempted to overthrow the Chancellor?
@@histguy101 The second mission of the game says that the 501st were given direct orders by the Chancellor to retrieve those crystal samples. It makes sense then that Palpatine would have told them that he was suspicious of the Jedi, made up some bullshit to convince the clones that he's right, and told them to prepare for Order 66.
12:00 The death star was an inside job. How could a single snub fighter penetrate the most powerful defenses of the Galaxy's history? You're telling me a single proton torpedo could destroy the death star?
It was an inside job. The designer built the reactor to be vulnerable, not only that but there was very little in the way of small fighter defensive AA and was mostly heavy turbolasers for medium to Capital ships.
@Jeffrey Scott I was more joking in my OP, I'm not sure if that came across.... I completely agree with what you wrote... if not thinking you go far enough: remember Luke is basically space Jesus too. Nothing is Jesus proof. He's the son of God. If he wants to destroy the death star by putting a toothpick in the recycling on another planet 200 years before the death star is built, He can do it.
I always loved the after order 66 comics especially the one where one clone was fighting early rebels and he recalled stories of a monster like clone fighting for the rebels and when he was met face to face he looked no different from himself
"What I remember about the rise of the Empire is...how quiet it was." "So this is how Liberty dies, with thunderous applause." Two quotes, but talking about the very same thing.
While i do like the original Battlefront 2 campaign, i do notice a small issue with it. The Battle of Geonosis took place in 22 BBY, the Battle of Hoth took place in 3 ABY, so about 25 years apart from each other. By the time of the battle of Geonosis, Clone Troopers were being made for ten years, and the thing is that they age at twice the rate of normal people. This means that the 5O1'st veteran was, physically speaking, 70 years old at the time of the battle and yet still fought in it.
the fucking naboo mission, there's this one part where it spawns an infinite number of tanks until you capture the objective, and you have one tank and no reinforcements since your ai teammates are so stupid
If anything, Hoth was the final nail in the coffin for the Empire. They've already seen what complacency can do to their army, but after Hoth? They not only fell for it again, but dove head first into their own hubris thinking they've won once and for all. And for that, the balance in the force returned. Just not in their favor.
11:40 Disney and even before those who make Star Wars video games don't want us to see this. They just focus on another side As if the empire existed, they feared that children might come forward to fill out applications to join its army
I would argue that the reason why the game ends with Hoth and not Endor is because there is a good chance that the 501st was wiped out during endor which would include the unknown clone. Therefore he probably didn’t have a chance to write in his journal about the battle.
Anyone know why the Rhen Var, Bespin and Yavin IV arena maps are available in the Xbox One version of the backwards compatible version of Battlefront 2?
@Mythic Ok, so it's similar to how all DLC map packs for Halo Reach became free or Yavin-IV became avaliable in KOTOR once they became backwards compatible
Honestly I love when you do the Galactic Civil War videos😁 They are really ingesting because we never go super in-depth in the original movies, unlike the Prequels because they have SWTCW and that gives us a different point of view on the war.
As much as I dont like Disney, when they did Rebels, they touched on this topic and gave a perspective of clone commanders like Rex. Few like Rex left the Empire in protest of the regime. It was a psychological rollercoaster for many to hunt and kill innocent jedi and civilians of other worlds. They were born to be soldiers and nothing else, so many like Commander Cody who fought side by side with the jedi generals Ben Kenobi or Anakin Skywalker, in the end fought for who ever gave the orders. Think to yourself; what is it like to be human but consider yourself only property, soldiers that can do nothing else but fight. They were "walking timebombs" to most in the galaxy, many did not make it past the completion of order 66 and more were to come. What makes Star Wars such an intriguing story is the depth of its universe, it breathes and grows with more detail as time goes on. Whether you are an old Cannon fan or new, this story will bring us joy and new friends for years to come.
Kinda felt had Diney not buy Star wars i could've seen Rex and what clones he found realize their mistakes in gunning down the jedi and see how their bitterness and jealousy effected others and theme joining the rebels could of shown theme wanting to set things right
@@comicbookreviewer4856 I agree with you on that, and this may not be a shared opinion but the new disney wars is a bit more black and white when it comes to morality, Lucas wars I felt was much more gray area, like Qui-gon Jinn and Ben Kenobi. Those were light side jedi who were more inline with gray jedi codes as time went on. Like Jinn and Dooku commissioning the clone army, this was a necessary evil to achieve a greater goal (even if it didnt end that way). I feel like Disney is trying to get more out of its wheelhouse on these movies, but most Disney films have that underlying good vs evil struggle that only exists in fairy tales. I have been watching "The Bad Batch" and feel they did a good job connecting things and adding new information, but a lot of it conflicts with established cannon (not film but television) like in rebels. I have been infatuated with storm troopers since first seeing the tile white armor and sinister helmets, and as the story progressed that infatuation only grew. I would have loved to see more of the clones stories, since there were millions, I dont find it very likely only a handful of them decided not to take orders or feel some level of remorse for murdering there generals and friends, unlike that dick Cody.
Got to say who ever voice the 501st journal did absolutely amazing fantastic job ever! Made my childhood awesome! His voice fits perfect in the game! He should replace voice in the new battlefront 2 game!
I also think Hoth was the last mission because the Clones were just to old to keep serving so they most likely weren’t at Endor, but probably retired or at Academies as trainers.
I remember being shocked at how great the story was for this game. What a fascinating little bit of writing that went such a long way to enrich the universe and the gaming experience
My father was among the Few Germans who returned from Stalingrad. He died when I was 9 so I never really was able to hear his stories. However, having talked to many such veterans within the German immigrant community and having served 26 years in the Navy myself, everything mentioned here can be said of the Wehrmacht in WW2, The Red Army during the Cold War, and of course the US Military today
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"We never got used to the new guys." None of us did either.
True
I love your Thunder Rangers helm
Yeah fuck’em
So FNG
To this day, I can't understand what motivated our creators to rise up against us. Had they gone mad? Had we failed them in some way? In the end, it really didn't matter. The Kaminoans had to be stopped and their army of treacherous gene cousins destroyed. The first few kills were the hardest. Afterall, it's hard not to get a little spooked when the enemy screams with your voice. We shook it off and did our job. Most of the troopers never knew about Kamino. Like a lot of things in the Empire, it never really happened."
This is the original kamino mission commentary.
Yeah, it was really shocking to see clones killing each other, almost making us forget that they stuck up for one another and even sacrificed their lives to defend their birth place. But as the campaign had mentioned that these new clones were treacherous gene cousins, but no longer were they even considered brothers, the empire changed a lot of things, especially everyone who was in it from the beginning to the end.
The original? Why was it replaced? Did it make its way into any of the copies of the game?
@@cobalt-6D there was supposed to be a space mission for kamino
I can see why they removed that. The Kaminoans and clones hated each other. So much so that once the war was over, one clone commander (forget which one) flayed alive and made gloves from his Kaminoan handler for what she did to him and his brothers.
this channal has shutdown gives me shivers, gotta love the feelings Star Wars bring
“What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was.”
That line always gives me the chills.
No one said a word...not on the ride back to Coruscant, not when we marched into the Jedi Temple....not a word.
jaela have you ever play 2005 BF2 a Master Piece ?...
A22 much better than the new one
I love this line
@Jaela Aurelius - Chills every time.
What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... Is how loud Anakin's screeching was.
You’ll get yours old man...
Lol
been there, done that
You have 501 likes
Lol yes
"I don't remember much of the battle. I guess we won."
Such a great underrated line.
"Brief and pointless battle on Tantiv 4"- Vietnam flashbacks to the rocket, thermal detonator, and automatic fire of that opening hallway. And the Swarm of Rebels as you frantically search for Leia on the confusing map.
and only to accidentally walk in to the generator and die
Back in the good ol'e days
god that map was so terrible but also well-designed. it felt claustrophobic with rebels popping out all over.
I hate the rebel love of grenade spam and rockets
Also even if you lived long enough to use all your ammo they just kept coming. No matter how many you put down.
i'd say crewing the deathstar is like working a nuke silo, you assume its a deterrent and never to be actually used
That would mean it'd be poorly maintained then
Imagine if this game was actually remastered. Having the campaign and other maps that weren’t included in the campaign on current gen would be AMAZING!!
Disney would never approve. They're only interested in canon content
@@ugiustuskeiserus8066 Unfortunately you're right. It would make a huge profit if they went through with the remaster. So many people would buy it.
They would fill it full of loot boxes and micro transactions.
"What I remember about the rise of the empire.......IS HOW YOU HAVE NOT BOUGHT THE GOLD ELITE SEASON BATTLE PASS+ BUY IT NOW FOR THE SMALL PRICE OF £100 AND YOU WILL UNLOCK THE 501 FORTNIGHT SKIN"
You would have to turn to 3rd party operating by granted license I bet
"After a brief and boring battle"
My man doesn't like Rogue One.
Well it’s nothing compared to some of the battles in the clone war
To be fair, it is tough to top a lot of those battles, but Rogue One gave it a good shot.
ZexalBrony479
True.
bemotivated
Yep, Clone Wars were... oof. Like WW1 levels of brutality, with WW2 levels of death and destruction.
The Avatar bro chill. Clone wars was not that brutal it was still rated y7 and its all super clean. Still awesome and brutal but cmon now lmao you’re comparing a show intended for kids to the two most destructive conflicts in human history
I can imagine the interview situation for the journal: The old veteran commands an intimidating presence, altough he has been discharged for a while his posture is still that of a soldier, the row of medals on his chest and the scars on his face tell the story of a man born to be a soldier, a man born to serve. He had seen the glory and downfall of the Republic and rise of the Empire, every time he closes his eyes he sees the faces of thousands of his brothers who gave their lives fightng to first uphold the Republic and then to build the Empire, it was their Empire, they had built it with blood, sweat and blaster bolts. He has no regrets, he fought the war like he was trained and ordered to do, he has no interest in politics, he does not complain about the Empires non-glamorous treatment of clone veterans, he is a soldier to the very end, he knows he and all his brothers fulfilled their duties with honour, that is all he cares about, that is all he needs to know.
That sounds like a good movie a clip of tamura talking about something then flashing back and watching the battle unfold kinda like a documentary
So basically Rex?
@@bemotivated8443 "My loyalty was to the Republic, not your Empire"
bemotivated
No, Rex is different. He fought against the empire and didn’t like it
Honestly, he also saw the end of the Empire (he hints at it in the Hoth chapter).
When you realize Hoth was the final mission because the narrator probably died on the Battle of Endor..
sad stormtrooper noises :(
The real reason likely was that they didn't want to add Ewok models to the game. Although this is an interesting Fridge Logic spin to that.
@@willyvereb They did add ewoks to the game..
@@willyvereb Yeah ewoks were on the endor map lol
willyvereb This is how we know u didn’t play the game. 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ there is Ewoks
Or follow what is said, and that the BIG GAMER MOMENT, is that in the game's story they really did finish off the rebels on hoth. The 501st could do it mate.
I remember playing this the first time it was interesting and actually fun when you died you didn’t restart the mission until you ran out of troops
*shudders when thinking of Hoth*
Whats its caled?
@@NK-hl8nw 2005 edition Star Wars: Battlefront 2 EA made a "remake" but its just a flashy cash-grab. They tossed the campaign to the curb in order to try and sell you more junk. The original can still be found on steam or GoG, I have it on both so I can do LAN coop with my brother.
Especially if your the last man and the enemy has 100 plus troops. That last man feeling, hugging the ammo droid, trying to heal with the medical droid while not get yourself or the healing droid shot
@@aeviwright7846 thx for the ansver
They never liked the new guys
Cody hated the new guys
bemotivated
Yep, he called the new stormtrooper corps a “disgrace to the clone army”.
God I love that voice
There was a Imperial Clone named TK-662. He only appreciated the clones and kinda disliked the new guys since they thought of the clones as human droids.
What's sad is that many of the new guys were probably great soldiers. They just weren't genetically perfect soldiers. Imagine the U.S. Marines being considered bumbling, weak and incompetent, just because you're comparing them to living terminators.
Honestly,we need to thank Pandemic and whoever else decided to create the 501st journal.
I was really hoping that this would have been the campaign in the new battlefront 2, but was disappointed, but not too completely displeased.
You can't thank them. They don't exist anymore
Ügiustus Keiserus Yeah I know,sadly.
It’s hilarious to think how this game was rushed and yet the game managed 4 game modes, introduced heroes, improved galactic conquest, and can still humiliate EA’s rebooted battlefront.
And Temuera Morrison for voicing it!
I always thought that after the clone uprising on Kamino the line were Boba Fett "said something about tracking down a smuggler
on Tatooine" was pretty funny and clever.
Imagining how the clones where actually killing their brothers, on their homeworld was very close to inconceivable. Especially during the clone wars when they fought side by side and honored brotherhood and would even defend their home from the separatists. But know the roles are different, They have become the attacker, and their newly born rejected brethren have become defenders of the last known hint of what they were like during the clone wars.
@@shadowelite1177 I never thought it that way. how interesting.
it was tropish bad writing "Make sure you drop callbacks to the original trilogy characters and of course include all of them. ohh lets make vader a combat officer!". bad bad writing
cdreid99999 he always took part in missions. That’s his whole thing
cdreid99999 wait wait wait, how is making Vader a combat officer bad writing? Vader’s entire deal was that he handled things himself.
I fought with some of those men for over TWENTY YEARS.
It really has been that long, they fought to end the war during the clone wars, and they still fought to end the war during the civil war. But in the end, they simply deteriorated to the point where they just became target practice for the rebellion, even the clones that were left during the civil war either got moved into vader's fist, became purge troopers, or just ordinary imperials that struggled to see such inferior individuals replace the once glorious army they once knew. It must have been "Five Long Years of Hell" "Captain Cutter".
How long was the clone wars three?
Rockabilly Joe - only officially. In starwars lore most of the planets keep fighting after after the separatists collapse. They also fought rebellions for years.
Rockabilly Joe
The main bodies of the clone wars fought for about 4 to 4 and a half years of I remember correctly.
The *First Battle of Geonosis* all the way to *Order 66* essentially mark the duration of the Clone Wars in full.
Naturally, with so many planets, after the Empire was created, they had a few Separatist hold outs, but the war was essentially over after the Republic, and I quote:
“reorganized into the first, galactic empire”!
-Palpatine, AKA “The Senate”
Anakin killed most of the Separatist War leaders during Order 66, when he went to Mustafar and he killed all those men and bankers before Obi Wan showed up.
So basically, the combined events of the _Jedi Purge,_ the _Death of the Separatist War Leaders,_ and the _Republic’s transition into the Empire,_ all essentially marked the end of the Clone War.
@@royrogers3133 Yeah, but we know when Anakin was knighted as Darth Vader it was 19 years from that point until Episode 4. So I think the question was meant to.ask "How long was the clone wars fought until the end of episode 3?"
The journals always showed me the humane side of the Imperial troops instead of what we see in the movies of them as ruthless killers who can’t aim. It shows the obvious distress and detachment to life they were accustomed to
I don't give a single DAMN about the new canon and that this may be legends, THIS IS the official Star Wars timeline to me
On That Oracle, we are in Agreement
There is other lore other than legends? Surely you jest.
@@Magavynhigara Surely if some other canon existed, it would be erased from the minds of decent people and banished to the same realm of dead timelines that say... a hypothetical Starwars Christmas special would be banished to, or a live-action He-man movie or Mario Brothers Movie. And we know no such three things have ever existed.
I have disliked alot of the changes Disney has made, the whole inhibitor chips in the clones really urked me, i loved how the Clones were conflicted, they are Soldiers, they did their jobs, did they like it no, but how the felt is irrelevent, it made them more nuisanced instead of "a control chip made me do it"
and the Kyber crystals are now sentient and the color changes dependin on the user, lightsabers to MoodSabers
"feeling cute and sith today, maybe slay some younglings"
@@devildavin
I personally enjoy the Kyber crystal thing.
I think it adds a little layer of mysticism back to the lightsaber that had been lost.
Everything else?
*eeehhh*
The Galactic Civil War is heavily influenced by the Clone Wars from a lore perspective, and the Clone Wars are heavily influenced by the Galactic Civil War from a writing perspective. I would love to see this channel cover both
still waiting for the knife fight between Rebel Commando Rex and Imperial Commando Cody
@@rescuerex7031Cody would call Rex a traitor first and start blasting before the goated captain can recover from the shock of meeting Cody.
Star wars lore is so flushed out in every possible way (when you include legends) that it almost starts to seem like actual history.
125,000 years of history. Literally.
Must suck living in a universe with constant civil war, between two religions that only allow incorporate 0.000000000000000000000000000000001% of the galactic population.
Flushed out lol
@Michael Smith they are I think he's counting Force Sensitive individuals.
@@polishherowitoldpilecki5521 I have an idea, why don’t we let the Wookie win this one.
I hope that when her death came it would be quick and painless. Yeah Scary
“I don’t have much to say about this subject. After the Empire got established, I got out of the army as soon as I could collect a pension, and started a business.” -CS/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
A clone trooper able to leave the army when they want? With a pension? What’s that from?
Cybermat47 I believe there was a pension fund for after the war
How's your novel?
Thomas Alvarez developing. Trying to play around with various settings, since setting is one of the important parts of the Star Wars motif. I know, however, that is basic story is that he was born into the 442nd Siege Battalion as a sergeant and heavy trooper, saw some battles, rose through ranks, learned some things, met people, did some interesting missions with the Doom’s Unit and republic intelligence. He became a scout, got promoted to captain, got hurt really badly between assignments, Lost his arm and received brain damage, participated in the battle of Cato Nemoidia as a scout, left the army post order 66, and established a guild of scouts who can survey, provide battlefield support, do mercenary work, and collect small bounties for various clients.
@@chengzhou8711 I would so love to read this when you're done. Sounds amazing.
"They've sent in the supers!"
Other Clone: dude, really? Were fighting rebels.
"Watch those wrist rockets!"
Clone: he's having flashbacks again. He'll be fine.
"TK 422 CALM DOWN!"
"FOR THE REPUBLIC!"
"For the love of- Someone get the tranq gun again."
@@Castia158 Rodger Rodge-I mean Yes sir! *salutes and clunkily trots off to grab the stun blaster*
"With no small thanks to the fighting men of 501st."
My favorite mission was Tying Loose Ends(Mustafar) Its just something that I think deserves a canon battle.
A good video, but I'd honestly like a bit more of a detailed breakdown of the 501st. You completely ignored the morality for the Naboo mission, where they said they sent emissaries back in "various states of dismemberment."
Shadow Elite 117 - As the video said, this is Part 2, with Part 1 being “the journal of the unknown 501st soldier (something something “being so dark”) “. That one focused on the 501st during the Clone Wars and the Empire.
@@shadowelite1177 that was in the last video
Headass
Battlefront EA version could have been an amazing game in an of itself if they just remastered the campaign it would have been like i was a kid again too bad.
This was one of my favorite campaigns of all time, especially the gameplay because it gave us another perspective to understand what the iconic events were like to the empire instead of just another typical story of good vs evil and good wins again kind of thing. But their thoughts I feel like were more direct and focused on how they viewed the situation both from a personal and a duty sense, which helped the immersion so much. What I wish they would do is remake this campaign in the modern battlefront 2 with awesome graphics and perhaps touch upon the "Star Wars: Republic Commando sequel" that we will never get when the story takes us into the jedi temple for order 66. This campaign was very enjoyable and really helped many people see how not only the rebels were taking casualties, but the empire and its soldiers were as well. I guess the question at the end of the day is which side do you like, "Heads or Tails" like "Empire or Rebels" (P.S you should make more content like this, it is really interesting to know there are others who like learning about both sides of the war instead of just one.)
That intro of yours just hit me in the face with a war-hammer forged from pure nostalgia.
... Holy shit, it's been too long since i've heard that sound.
Did that warhammer cost 40k?
One of the greatest battlefront campaigns ever
I agree, it was very immersive and its story just kept pulling you in, wanting more, and more, and more.
Love this video. Its sad to see the 501st deteriorate.
Yeah, it really is terrible when the story mentions how their fighting force was crippling, their morale was crippling with every casualty, their once closely held bond of brotherhood was being erased as new diverse recruits took the place of their past brethren. Not to mention that old allies became foes and new enemies were capitalizing on their weaknesses due to all this change, which really took its toll on the ancient relic that is the 501st.
Shadow Elite 117 Imagine losing half the fighting force of one of the elite battalions in your army in a single incident. The morale of the 501st would have severely deterioriated but there was way too many that are battle hardened from decades of fighting. They lost brothers that they literally grew up with from birth and used their deaths to motivate them to eradicate the rebellion.
I dont feel too bad for them. They defended an empire that oppressed its citizens and stripped away the liberties and freedom people had under imperial rule. Idk, I just cant feel bad for the clones and soilders that supported Imperial rule lol. They arent fighting for the Republic anymore..
Chris McCann More people died under Rebel jurisdiction than Imperial rule. Less than 10 percent of Imperial worlds ever saw an intensive stormtrooper occupation besides Military worlds. The only regions of the galaxy that legitimately had problems with the Empire were the former CIS worlds which were in the outer rim anyway.
Sources are Tarkin, Rots
@@Chris-cx3bk Gotta ask, how verse are you in star wars lore? I for sure thought the same for a long time, but as read more into the lore I started switching perspectives. The Empire, in general terms, was like a necessary evil. I can't defend their every action, but for the most part the galaxy was better than it had been for a long time. The Republic was very old and corruption was rampant. After the Empire took over they brought stability into the galaxy.
Someone disliked the video.... Commander cody, the time has come activate order 66
this is getting out of hand, now there are 13 of them!
@@50shadesof_jamesgray The lost 20 now :P
LOVE IT, i like how the cut-scenes form the campaign of battlefront 2 are better than the entire campaign of the new battlefront 2
Fr lol dam shame
As someone who always roots for the Empire, this game was perfect. This is why I despise the new Battlefront game. Only two missions and then suddenly we switch to Rebel Scum!
It even didn't flesh out the first order and their rise in power within the unknown region building their empire
Lmfao I love how they clearly used gameplay footage for their cutscenes because at 9:57, they show the choked out rebel soldier drop a health and ammo pack when he dies
The memories of 2005 Star Wars battlefront
Original Battle Front 2 journals are cannon in -my- everyone’s opinion
No. Even before the Disney wipe, I never liked the Battlefront 2 narrative, and I still don't. Also, fuck the "everyone loves the old EU and hates Disney" narrative.
I agree. The journals were thrown together in a rush, and make the clones to have known all along they were going to kill the Jedi. It makes zero sense.
@@histguy101 Order 66 was a contingency plan. One out of 150 covering nearly all possible scenarios, and the clones had memorized all 150 orders. Why would they not know about it?
@@NEETKitten Ok, and classic BF2 makes it sound like the clones were planning on executing this one single contingency plan throughout the whole war.
How could they know they were going to execute "order 66" before the order went out, or even before the Jedi attempted to overthrow the Chancellor?
@@histguy101 The second mission of the game says that the 501st were given direct orders by the Chancellor to retrieve those crystal samples. It makes sense then that Palpatine would have told them that he was suspicious of the Jedi, made up some bullshit to convince the clones that he's right, and told them to prepare for Order 66.
12:00 The death star was an inside job. How could a single snub fighter penetrate the most powerful defenses of the Galaxy's history? You're telling me a single proton torpedo could destroy the death star?
It was an inside job. The designer built the reactor to be vulnerable, not only that but there was very little in the way of small fighter defensive AA and was mostly heavy turbolasers for medium to Capital ships.
thankfully we got one of the engineers here
@@majorhawker4776 perfect answer
@Jeffrey Scott I was more joking in my OP, I'm not sure if that came across.... I completely agree with what you wrote... if not thinking you go far enough: remember Luke is basically space Jesus too. Nothing is Jesus proof. He's the son of God. If he wants to destroy the death star by putting a toothpick in the recycling on another planet 200 years before the death star is built, He can do it.
That intro literally put me so far back playing Star Wars battlefront was so nice!
I always loved the after order 66 comics especially the one where one clone was fighting early rebels and he recalled stories of a monster like clone fighting for the rebels and when he was met face to face he looked no different from himself
"What I remember about the rise of the Empire is...how quiet it was."
"So this is how Liberty dies, with thunderous applause."
Two quotes, but talking about the very same thing.
Im 17 rn but I envision myself playing the original battlefront 2 with my kids at least once
As a supporter of the ever gracious Galactic Empire, it truly does my heart proud to see these patriots painted in a good light.
Too bad that rebel scum destroyed it.
Maddox Lacy Pretty good they did destroy it.
@@yamatoclassbattleshipRebel sympathizer!
End him!
This is the context behind Obi-Wan's stormtrooper accuracy comment. Great video thank you for the entertaining content.
“We were almost happy to have someone shooting at us again”
I think the battle of Endor and having our 501st trooper defeated/dying would’ve been an interesting take
Lucas: sure EU and Legends can be cannon. i dont mind. let the stories grow.
Disney: NO!
I feel like Lucas was indifferent to the EU, retconning whatever got in his way. Disney is exactly correct.
jman507 gaming i font mind it, but god knows that maybe in another 50 years Disney’s gonna retcon their own canon.
Keller weskier if Lucas says it can be canon , then I consider it canon , but never will I consider Disney’s trilogy canon
@@jman507gaming4 that's good tho because that means that Lucas still keeps the original vision but we also get variety.
@Tom Ffrench They should have made ----> Star Wars: The Thrawn Trilogy
How did that Clone went on from Geonosis to Hoth I'll never know.
You could say they dont make um like they used too.
@Batman The Dark Knight You could say that yes XD But yanno its the internet, not an essay
He probably shot everything that moved in the clone war then galactic civil war
He used the invincibility cheat.
Skill luck and balls of brass
The journal of this unknown soldier is beautiful art. And so very heartbreaking...
They need to make a movie concerning this view point on the events in Star Wars
Lord I wish Temuera Morrison would voice and portray the clones again
That's how you write a compelling Imperial story line.
I've never played the campaign of this game, but I like how gritty and realistic the narration is.
Any content from you is good content. I'll watch whatever you post.
Hussain C same
Officially there never was a Clone Rebellion on Kamino.
Dwarf Spider droids and droidekas should’ve made small and maybe distant appearances in rogue one: change my mind
“Quote from the video”
Made me tear man. Bueitfully said
As a Kiwi it's amazing to hear a story like this in my accent. Casting Temuera Morrison as the Fetts & every clone is bloody magical.
While i do like the original Battlefront 2 campaign, i do notice a small issue with it. The Battle of Geonosis took place in 22 BBY, the Battle of Hoth took place in 3 ABY, so about 25 years apart from each other. By the time of the battle of Geonosis, Clone Troopers were being made for ten years, and the thing is that they age at twice the rate of normal people. This means that the 5O1'st veteran was, physically speaking, 70 years old at the time of the battle and yet still fought in it.
I'm just happy that someone is keeping the lore alive. If I had a choice I would join the 501st.
I always took the battlefront 501st journal over the canon over whether or not they had inhib chips or not
who remember a B2 droid wrist rocket you of the platform defending the beacon while trying to eradicate delso ?...
What
@@technounionrepresentative4274 you will not understand..........
@@siegel947
I remember.
Watch those damned wrist rockets.
Bro, why gotta bring back that memory lol
the fucking naboo mission, there's this one part where it spawns an infinite number of tanks until you capture the objective, and you have one tank and no reinforcements since your ai teammates are so stupid
If anything, Hoth was the final nail in the coffin for the Empire. They've already seen what complacency can do to their army, but after Hoth? They not only fell for it again, but dove head first into their own hubris thinking they've won once and for all. And for that, the balance in the force returned. Just not in their favor.
im liking this GCW content, it would be nice to see more like it.
11:40
Disney and even before those who make Star Wars video games don't want us to see this.
They just focus on another side
As if the empire existed, they feared that children might come forward to fill out applications to join its army
Omg the nostalgia at 0:30!! Oh it takes me back to the good old days
I hope at some point we get to see some stories where the Empire is using Separatists droids!
I would argue that the reason why the game ends with Hoth and not Endor is because there is a good chance that the 501st was wiped out during endor which would include the unknown clone. Therefore he probably didn’t have a chance to write in his journal about the battle.
The old battlefront games were a masterpiece
Goddamn the 501st campaign in battlefront II might be one of the best I've ever played. Wish they could have come close to as good a game since.
Anyone know why the Rhen Var, Bespin and Yavin IV arena maps are available in the Xbox One version of the backwards compatible version of Battlefront 2?
@Mythic Ok, so it's similar to how all DLC map packs for Halo Reach became free or Yavin-IV became avaliable in KOTOR once they became backwards compatible
Thanks for the awesome video!
Please do more of these using the older games!
It was a very interesting take of the journal and very enjoyable!
More Galactic Civil war Legends conflicts content, please.
I believe that the bad batch tv series is gonna end something like this 4:52
It was disturbing because the Senate existed.
I love that basically this entire video is just the cut scenes from bf2
I’m happy with about everything that has to do with clone troopers and mandalorians
More of all of this please. Nice work.
Here’s a video that I want answered: why did that stormtrooper shoot a Tie Fighter’s blaster on Naboo?
Honestly I love when you do the Galactic Civil War videos😁 They are really ingesting because we never go super in-depth in the original movies, unlike the Prequels because they have SWTCW and that gives us a different point of view on the war.
As much as I dont like Disney, when they did Rebels, they touched on this topic and gave a perspective of clone commanders like Rex. Few like Rex left the Empire in protest of the regime. It was a psychological rollercoaster for many to hunt and kill innocent jedi and civilians of other worlds. They were born to be soldiers and nothing else, so many like Commander Cody who fought side by side with the jedi generals Ben Kenobi or Anakin Skywalker, in the end fought for who ever gave the orders. Think to yourself; what is it like to be human but consider yourself only property, soldiers that can do nothing else but fight. They were "walking timebombs" to most in the galaxy, many did not make it past the completion of order 66 and more were to come. What makes Star Wars such an intriguing story is the depth of its universe, it breathes and grows with more detail as time goes on. Whether you are an old Cannon fan or new, this story will bring us joy and new friends for years to come.
Kinda felt had Diney not buy Star wars i could've seen Rex and what clones he found realize their mistakes in gunning down the jedi and see how their bitterness and jealousy effected others and theme joining the rebels could of shown theme wanting to set things right
@@comicbookreviewer4856 I agree with you on that, and this may not be a shared opinion but the new disney wars is a bit more black and white when it comes to morality, Lucas wars I felt was much more gray area, like Qui-gon Jinn and Ben Kenobi. Those were light side jedi who were more inline with gray jedi codes as time went on. Like Jinn and Dooku commissioning the clone army, this was a necessary evil to achieve a greater goal (even if it didnt end that way). I feel like Disney is trying to get more out of its wheelhouse on these movies, but most Disney films have that underlying good vs evil struggle that only exists in fairy tales. I have been watching "The Bad Batch" and feel they did a good job connecting things and adding new information, but a lot of it conflicts with established cannon (not film but television) like in rebels. I have been infatuated with storm troopers since first seeing the tile white armor and sinister helmets, and as the story progressed that infatuation only grew. I would have loved to see more of the clones stories, since there were millions, I dont find it very likely only a handful of them decided not to take orders or feel some level of remorse for murdering there generals and friends, unlike that dick Cody.
My man uploaded the 501st Journal with 3 minutes of commentary.
What if Revan was born the time as Anakin Skywalker?! Love your channel!
They would both hate and like each others and they would have a huge competition
This is such a trip, I haven’t played this game in years so thanks for the reminder it exists
I love that they see droids again and there like fuck doing that again just nuke the place
This was my childhood. Thank you for memories
Got to say who ever voice the 501st journal did absolutely amazing fantastic job ever! Made my childhood awesome! His voice fits perfect in the game! He should replace voice in the new battlefront 2 game!
It was the guy who played Jango Fett.
Joshua I’m shock and feel like a idiot at the same Time😂😂
@@1dylrocks he was also boss in the republic commandos
Just hit up that patreon! Glad to be part of the team. I think I’m a clone or something lol!
I also think Hoth was the last mission because the Clones were just to old to keep serving so they most likely weren’t at Endor, but probably retired or at Academies as trainers.
I always liked to think of it as a parallel universe where the rebellion was actually put down 🤷 That's just me though
I actually came to that conclusion as well, but I guess its up to us to decide what really happened.
Stephen Farmer ah a good ending indeed
Its possible but endor was only a year after hoth so some may still have fought
Vault 69 later batches probably. And some old farts cause we saw rex there.
I remember being shocked at how great the story was for this game. What a fascinating little bit of writing that went such a long way to enrich the universe and the gaming experience
After watching this make me want to play the original battlefront games lol
My father was among the Few Germans who returned from Stalingrad. He died when I was 9 so I never really was able to hear his stories. However, having talked to many such veterans within the German immigrant community and having served 26 years in the Navy myself, everything mentioned here can be said of the Wehrmacht in WW2, The Red Army during the Cold War, and of course the US Military today
So he was a nazi?
Darth Vader: *breathes*
Star wars fanbase: 😍
When the 501st clone was talking about the kamino clone rebellion, "I'm So Sorry" was playing in the background, that really hit me
I wonder if any clones in the 501st knew about Darth Vader being anakin right after episode 3
I think Anakin was known as Darth Vader during the massacre of the Jedi Temple or whatever it was
From what I've learned Vader kept his position as the 501st leader and it got the nick name "Vader's first" since it's his regiment and all
This is Canon for me!
Would love a 501st journal TV show to see the war on the other side