“In recognition of our service and loyalty to the Emperor, the 501st were placed under the direct command of Lord Vader. Armed with deadly new weapons, blazing new ships, and shiny new armor, our presence let the galaxy know that the days of the Old Republic were well and truly over. We were establishing a new era, an era of order and peace.”
What’s tragic about that last sentence is something the Empire tries to blur, the line between order and peace as they are more often than not two different things. One is calmness, the other is keeping the people in line.
@@teleportedbreadfor3days That's such a bad take. Order and Peace are completely inseparable. You may be a bit young with such a naive worldview! No worries I'll explain myself. // Order creates Peace. When your life is organized and you have routines you are at ease and by extent at peace. When your mental,spiritual, and physical health are in Order you have Peace as a result. Disorder invites Chaos. Restlessness follows Chaos as there can be no peace if there is no sense of balance. // Unlimited and unrestricted freedom is actually not a good thing. It allows the slow subversion of good principles until the moral integrity of a nation is so heavily weakened that detrimental practices become the norm. The problem is that most people are not adept at articulating these nuances so the average person will simply dismiss what they're saying.
The 501st was named after the 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, which served in the US Army in WW2. They were named by the founder of the costume club, who named it after his dad's military unit.
Yeah, only to get killed by a f*cking wall panel. And the rest of Torrent apparently shared Ridge's luck, since the unit was finally wiped out entirely when RAS Tribunal crashed into that moon. I don't think they were ever reformed after that. Just a really tragic way for one of the best clone units in the GAR to go out.
@occam7382 Well... shout out to them I guess. Not enough to keep it a Company, or at least not the same with any OG members. Probably just kept in the Legion, but now fully manned by new Clones and some Imperial conscripts later on, eventually.
The 501st was one of the most elite fighting force within both the Republic and Empire for good reason. They were led by a hyper-competent leader, they were extremely courageous, they were able to achieve victory in impossible battles, and they were reliable on each other to secure the overall goal of every battle.
I heard or read somewhere that Vader gathered all surviving clones into his unit when the empire started taking in natborn recruits. So for the entirety of the empire, all of Vader's fist was comprised of clone troopers.
To be fair, I prefer the great hero becoming a tragic yet deadly villain take. More romantic (and I mean the medieval epic definition, not the modern love one), has more nuance, and has lots of awesomeness potential.
I kinda liked how Order 66 was portrayed in legends. No inhibitor chips and the order were legitimate orders. Order 66 was an order that called for the execution of the Jedi command structure should the Jedi be considered unfit at best and rebellious towards the Republic at worst. Because it was an order and not a command that cannot be ignored, there were a larger number of Clone deserters than in canon. Thing is, from a perspective outside of the movies, Order 66 was a legitimate order. Consider that Mace Windu, one of the Jedi Council's highest ranking individual took a squad of Jedi right into the Supreme Chancellor's office to arrest Palpatine without informing the Senate and for, supposedly what could be considered questionable charge that Palpatine was a Sith Lord with no proof. Anyone would consider it a coup by the Jedi Order.
When the Clone Troopers were phased out with Stormtroopers, the 501st Legion was one of the few units that have 100% Fett DNA under Darth Vader's command.
Later on I think they had some none clones. By Hoth, the clones would have been in their 40s (not counting accelerated aging, which I assume got cured at some point). They certainly had a lot more clones than other units though.
The 501st Legion are my personal favorite unit in the Star Wars Universe. I may not be a fan of the Empire, the 501st are still my favorite. Plus I thought it was awesome that they are basically the best of the best. The 501st also being the one trusted to complete Operation: Knightfall, knowing they would get the job done. Plus they were awesome during Star Wars the Clone Wars. But that's just my opinion.
Lets remember that the 501st probably served under the absolute best Skywalker (Jaina Solo Fel) when she became empress. And continued to serve loyally under her and Anakins decendents for well over 100 years. Hell, you could even assume they might've been deployed during the battle on the forgotten world and helped to purge the majority of sith from the galaxy.
Don't forget that her boyfriend Jagged Fel knew of the Empire of the Hand's continued existence as of 44 ABY and brought them in as reinforcements during his power struggle with Natasi Daala for control of the Imperial Remnant. Perhaps the 501st served there as well.
Idk if the journal said he participated in ALL the battles, but the thing is he could have started the journal in the last days of the war, with perhaps the legion being split. We almost never see him and skywalker with each other other than in knight fall. So I think it’s likely he DID participate in those battles and the other battles that occurred during that time also happened. And yes it was legends and all but it still could’ve reasonably happened
Even if you were a clone in a legion, there's thousands of clones in a legion, anakin would reasonable push out with mostly the same squads, chances are if you fight besides anakins in 1 battle, you'd fight alongside him in the next to
15:45-“What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word."
Watching this video made me imagine getting transferred or having to work with another legion and having jokes made about you because you're a "famous 501st trooper". Thinking about what's going on in the background of the movies and shows is a nice deep dive. When watching bad batch I wonder how many people were thinking that knightfall was going on whilst force 99 were on kamino
Me. When they were receiving Palpatine's Rise of the New Order speech, the back of my mind was just like, "Anakin, Appo and the 501st just wiped out thousands of Jedi on Coruscant, and Rex and Ahsoka just barely escaped getting killed with Torrent Company on RAS Tribunal."
The narrator of The Journal isn't the same guy throughout. They are all clones, and they all talk to each other. The Journal is a remembrance told by a clone from the points of view of ALL the clones who were at those battles, and then relayed as after the fact info of the mission you play.
I beleive the could make an entire televivision series dedicated to the 501st Legion and I think it cold be amazing, almost like a war drama, dark and gritty to show, almost like Band of Brothers but for the 501st Legion
501st is like the 101st Airborne. And Delta Squad is their Seal Team Six. (With a little bit of the A-Team Thrown in) Bad Batch...I think of them as the TMNT Brothers.
very good video on 501 Now special quotes from unit "I used to believe that being a good soldier meant doing everything they told you. That's how they engineered us. But we're not droids. We're not programmed. You have to learn to make your own decisions." ―Rex] . Come on, Rex, admit it. You've thought about what your life could look like if you were to also leave the army. Choose the life you want." "What if I am choosing the life I want? What if I'm staying in the army because it's meaningful to me?" "And, how is it meaningful?" "Because I'm part of the most pivotal moment in the history of the Republic. If we fail, then our children, and their children, could be forced to live under an evil I can't well imagine." ―Cut Lawquane and Captain Rex talking in the second year of the Clone Wars. "You… came for me." "It should have been me who went in the first place." ―Captain Rex and Anakin Skywalker So if you're a captain, and I'm a Jedi, then technically I outrank you, right?" "In my book, experience outranks everything." ―Ahsoka Tano and Rex Rex, ol' boy, it's time to join the party." "With pleasure, sir! "Come on, grunts! We are leaving! "Rex? You… you came back for me." "Yes. Yes. I did." "Wh…What…happened? Where am I?" "It's okay, Echo. You're safe now. Just sit tight, trooper. You're goin' home." ―Echo and Rex "Rex? Are you okay?" "Yeah. Yeah, kid. I'm okay. I'm sorry for what happened earlier. I almost killed you." ―Rex apologizes to Ahsoka after nearly killing her AND NOW THE MOST FAV OF MINE "This Ship Is Going Down And Those Soldiers, My Brothers, Are Willing To Die And Take You And Me Along With Them
@@ReanuKeevesAus There were however a lot of non-combat personnel such as engineers, technicians, scientists, doctors, cooks, and many other maintenance role personnel just there for the pension. Although loyal they were noncombatants and therefore the destruction of the death star is still "technically" a war crime. Though rules get blurry when the military target is the size of a small moon.
@@Cwronaga216 wrong! All Militaries have non combat roles, if they are apart of a genocide machine taking out entire planets in one go then they are valid Targets. It's not a War Crime to destroy the Death Star! What gives you the impression that it's a War Crime? Genuine question as I served nearly a Decade in the Army in a Combat Role in Combat in Afghanistan and Iraq multiple times so interested to understand how people view the roles in this fictional world of a Rebellion and a Galactic Dictatorship. Thanks!
@@ReanuKeevesAus I said it's technically a war crime by definition it wasn't however saying that it wasn't Justified because in the case of the Death Star the collateral damage of non-combatants was inevitable and was simply a return War Crime After the empire did the same thing on Alderaan. Intentionally and knowingly killing noncombatant Personnel is by definition a war crime according to our real-world military Doctrine and as far as I'm aware the Star Wars Universe does have similar rules regarding war crimes even if the Empire itself disregards them and even the Republic in the case of Anakin and Obi-Wan using false surrender to win battles. War crimes have specific definition as stated within the Geneva Convention intentionally killing non-combatants and unarmed personnel is a war crime by technical definition. Now considering the entire surface of the Moon size station was a valid military Target and the deaths of noncombatant personnel could not be avoided You could argue there is a loophole and because of what happened on Alderaan it's unlikely anyone would care. But it's still technically by definition a war crime also the Rebellion is technically by definition a terrorist organization even if they were in the right and Justified since not all Rebel activity was heroic by any means especially when it comes to the partisan group or wetwork operations like those committed by individuals like Cassian Andor and his crew
1) I always had a theory that Anakin never promoted Rex because it would allow there to be a "Legion Commander" to organize the detachments and direct them, so Rex could be alongside Anakin and not be burdened with logistics and command and control 2) if they remained pure clones of Fett, the journal having the timeline but the narrators sounding identical, even into the Imperial times would fit your explanation of the irregularity
Huh. When you put it like that, it does kinda make sense why Appo would be the one made Brigadier Commander after Ahsoka left instead of Rex, seeing as Appo was a lot more proficient at handling logistics/command-and-control.
I was under the impression that Rex wasn’t (initially) promoted to Senior Commander as Ahsoka, being a Jedi Commander, technically held that role, making her officially the 501st’s second-in-command and Rex the third-in-command
Technically speaking, Rex wasn't even 3rd-in-command. His only de-jure command was that of the 332nd, Torrent Company. But since he was Anakin's clone liasion officer, and the fact that Ahsoka was a literal child when she intially became Brigadier Commander, Rex might as well have been 2nd-in-command of the whole brigade.
Not that time that was a different mission. The recruitment of his secret apprentice came 10 years before the battle of yavin. The mission where appo lost his life was part of the hunt for several Jedi survivors, including roan shryne, and olee starstone.
I’ve just come back to Star Wars after 2 years. Great to see all these channels I watched during our 2019 lockdown thriving today. Gonna head over to some other channels just to see what they’ve got.
If the nick name legion is just for elite units, then the 501st is a corps since in Star Wars tcw it is mentioned that the 501st had within its ranks three brigades, therefore making it a corps. Tcw is both canon in the EU and disney canon so yeah it’s a corps
Blessed be the 501st. Sucks to be the now lost and forgotten 212th, 41st, 327th, 21st, and so many more units. Seriously, whatever happened to them after the Clone Wars, both in Legends (especially) and the Alt-universe (ongoing lore, yes, but still)? Addendum: Love the implication that a contingency of the 501st were there on Endor, by the way. Legends lore (as shown on Wookieepedia) sure missed out putting such a group in that influential battle.
@@michaelandreipalon359 I'd imagine most of them were either assigned to suppressing Separatist holdouts and other anti-Imperial uprisings or became glorified military police in the Mid and Outer Rims.
The different detachments theory makes a lot more sense in the end. After all, how are we to tell it's the same clone? They all have the same voice after all. Plus, it seems more meaningful & sentimental if the journal was written by several different clones.
I feel like Darth Vader himself would say something similar. Considering what he said to krennic… and if you read the novelization of revenge of the Sith, the separatist counselors
The 501st Legion held the title of elite unit from the time it formed all the way into the Legacy Era. I actually viewed the 501st Journal as a form of Imperial Propaganda, serving as a form of recruiting for the post-Hoth 501st legion. (Note: The journal makes up the campaign of the 2005 BF2, but ends at Hoth, even though the 501st were present at later battles.) This is also due to the fact that some of their missions likely belonged to other units. (Mygetto, Felucia, Kashyyk and Utapau) This can also be backed up by the fact that BF2 contradicts Dark Forces. In Dark Forces, Kyle Katarn steals the Death Star plans from an Imperial research outpost, while, in BF2, a group of Rebels who escaped from the Death Star prisons stole the plans, transmitted them to the Polis Masa group, who then sent it to Princess Leia. Since Dark Forces had a more fluid storyline, I'm going to say that's what happened. I'm not saying that all missions are fictional, just that some of the missions feel like they belonged to other units, or that they're made up.
Those aren’t really discrepancies though. In the real world it’s actually fairly common for different detachments of soldiers from one unit to deploy under the authority of another. So there absolutely could have been 501st troopers in all of these battles without much each. As for the Death Star thing, keep in mind that in Legends the Rebel Alliance received different bits of the Death Star plans from numerous different sources.
To be fair, journal of 501st could very well be different people, as there isn't much to imply it's just one clone. Every clone has the same voice afterall.
The 501st of the GAR needed to use dirty tactics because they couldn't face the might of the Confederacy. Vader's Fist was able to use conventional warfare well enough to not need too. That is the difference
@@theempiredidnothingwrong3227 Assassinations aren't dirty tactics. And they didn't do it to win battles either, the assassination attempt was merely delayed by an auto turret grid that was shut down by troops who were supposed occupy the city *after* she was killed, the actual number of troops involved and how explosive the conflicts were were exaggerated for gameplay.
Driving to work, thinking about what I’m gonna watch before my shift starts, think “ I wanna watch Geetsly, need some of that Star Wars lore “ just sat my ass down and see a new video
rex was the most badass clone trooper, not to mention the most important one in all of starwars history, he had served in countless battles, and was basically a god among the clones. his iconic dual blaster pistols style was forever etched into many starwars the clonewars fans.
But make sure to say that some battles and events from the likes of TCW 2008 might be extremely incompatible to Legends lore, and vice versa. One example: where Anakin and Obi-Wan were before they were sent to help out in the Battle of Coruscant (though to be honest, even Labyrinth of Evil and Clone Wars 2003 were differing on that in Legends). (At least three days before the NYCC, and thirteen days before the return. You know what I mean, right?)
@@michaelandreipalon359 Yeah, I know, for 2003 there were at The Battle of Nelvaan before going to Coruscant, and in Labyright of Evil it was the Recapture of Tythe before Coruscant. So even before the New Canon introduced the Battle of Yarbana the timeline was already confusing.
501ST JOURNAL. "In the waning months of the Clone Wars, the 501st faced missions critical to the agenda of Chancellor Palpatine. When we arrived at the bombed out ruins of Mygeeto, our Jedi commander believed we had been sent to take out a droid energy collector. What Ki-Adi-Mundi didn't know however was that our unit of the 501st was really after an experimental Mygeetan power source, that the Chancellor wanted for his superlaser. Keeping Mundi in the dark wasn't easy; the Jedi had become increasingly wary of the Chancellor's doings, and was on the lookout for the slightest hint of treachery. Just like the rest of them though, he never caught whiff of what was really going on, until it was far too late."
I like your idea that Battlefront 2's missions are all being fought by different squads...and it's easy to write off because all the narrators would sound the same (Or it could be Rex relaying the stories told by his compatriots)...and every time you die, you take control of a different trooper anyway, so it makes sense...
Disney has no good canon regarding the 501st. The only thing remotely cool was when the actual 501st fan group were hired as extras in the season 1 finale of the Mandalorian
Canon, Legends it’s still fantasy and I get to choose which one feels right to me, thats why I’m going to stick with the timeline that isn’t garbage, thank you very much.
for me i took BOTH campaigns of the OG battlefront games and turned them into a story from Naboo to Endor ive had a character go from battle to battle, war to war, faction to faction i gave him the orignal name of Unit 0 as droids in that game where named Unit # with 0 not being there Unit 0 to CT-7320 to ST-7320 to the "man" known as Zero to eventually become a bounty hunter, he REALY is old OOM Security Droid by the time the empire falls if Zero though where to survive to the legacy era and continue to replace parts and exchange droid models he would be the last remninant of 4 whole armys over a hundred years later
The newest and the most mysterious question in Star Wars: Why Skywalker did not promote Captain Rex to Commander earlier until the near end of the Clones Wars?
I think because Rex’s combat skills were unmatched, and he wasn’t quite as much of a tactical planner as he was a front liner. Therefore, captain worked better. A similar situation I could use is if you’ve watched attack on Titan. Levi definitely is the strongest soldier, yet he is also put as captain, because he works better as a front liner. But was there even a commander for the 501st during that time? It is still weird.
So what made them so special during the CW except the high casualties? They often won but were decimated so often that it could barely grow into an elite unit. It had a few great names in it's ranks but what else?
the survivors would have so much combat experience that they could use to train newbies that these newbies would be quickly brought up to speed. SF forces often take heavy losses. but are still elite operators due to the wealth of experience their survivors have. ive worked with SF too often to not have picked up on their heavy losses, as they also often operate all but alone in enemy territory, and in small groups, meaning that if they are discovered, every bad guy with a gun is dropped on their heads.
Well one way the journal of the 501st could work is simply they’re clones they’d all have the same face and voice and rather than hearing from one clones perceptive we’re hearing multiple clones perceptive and it’s all being read by the same voice….since they’d all have the same voice
With Rex being promoted to Commander to lead the 332nd when the Legion splits, my theory is that Appo was also promoted to lead the remaining 501st at the same time as Rex, making so Appo never out ranked Rex, but rather shared the same Rank
13:15 Isn't it? All the clones have the same voice, and the second mission is to take part in the battle over Coruscant, after which, as a result of serious losses in GRA, the legion may have been divided into smaller units to serve in different sectors, then perhaps it is not so impossible?
Wouldn't it be more probable that the Journal of the 501st could be 100% accurate due to the fact they're clones? It may not necessarily be the same guy, but different clones on each Battlefront?
It's not explicitly mentioned that the 501st was present on Endor. The 501st journal ends after Hoth and various battles occurred after that. The next BF game that covers the Battle of Endor never mentions the 501st on the ground. It's possible they were either left on Hoth as an occupational force (highly unlikely) or was dispatched to Sullust as a distractionary force during the battle of Endor. Which means the unit may have survived the war mostly intact until divied up by the Imperial Remnants.
Oh that just annoys the crap out of me. Historically regiments of never exceeded 1,000 men under one colonel. Thinking that Rex can handle directly commanding more than 9,000 men in only four regiments. Also Brigade is supposed to represent not only the regiments but everyone else like support staff artillery medical personnel. Those brigades are then sorted into cores which are under the command of generals
I used to adhere to the idea that Canon and Legends stuff could happen in the same timeline, but that’s become harder lately. Besides Star Wars Rebels and the Sequel Trilogy outright being impossible to place in Legends since they tell events far differently, there’s simply the fact that the Clone Wars tv show is also incompatible with Legends novels and comics set in the time period. So to me, the 501st is just a regular clone trooper unit with an outstanding record during the Clone Wars and one of Vader’s two fists, the other fist being the 1st Legion. They took their orders from Anakin/Vader, Ahsoka, Rex, Appo, Piett, and Veers, but not Palpatine. Their Legend’s counterpart is certainly quite interesting and some of it may still be compatible with Canon, but I’ll take the Canon version of the 501st over the Legends one.
I wanna hear more videos about the imperial knight series or whatever it was called I remember buying and issue at like kmart and it came with a action figure of a imperial in red armor with a white lightsaber
Watching this another time, I realized that you forgot to include Lola Sayu. The 501st was involved with 5 high-ranking members and a couple of other troopers were involved
15:45 : What I remember about the rise of the Empire is… is how quiet it was. *dip dip dip dip dip* During the waning hours of the clone wars the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. *dip dip dip dip dip* SAVE IT FOR THE ENEMY We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. KNOCK IT OFF Did we have any doubts? Any private traitorous thoughts? Perhaps but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. *dip dip dip dip dip* Not a word.
Something to point out: it's possible that it was many detachments of the 501st legion, but the diary could have been compiled by a historian. Offering up a possible way to explain everything, and the historian making it seem like it came from one clone trooper
Something I would like to note with the 501st journal. They are all clones and they sound the same, could it be that it's actually a different clone talking each time but they all served as 501st clones?
It's amazing that the 501st didnt show any real disdain towards Anakin for the heavy loses the legion suffers. Hell, its amazing that Rex didn't shoot Anakin after all he went through especially after that incident on Umbarra.
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“In recognition of our service and loyalty to the Emperor, the 501st were placed under the direct command of Lord Vader. Armed with deadly new weapons, blazing new ships, and shiny new armor, our presence let the galaxy know that the days of the Old Republic were well and truly over. We were establishing a new era, an era of order and peace.”
What’s tragic about that last sentence is something the Empire tries to blur, the line between order and peace as they are more often than not two different things. One is calmness, the other is keeping the people in line.
Are you orderly enough for peace? Am I peaceful enough for order?
@@teleportedbreadfor3days That's such a bad take. Order and Peace are completely inseparable. You may be a bit young with such a naive worldview! No worries I'll explain myself.
// Order creates Peace. When your life is organized and you have routines you are at ease and by extent at peace. When your mental,spiritual, and physical health are in Order you have Peace as a result. Disorder invites Chaos. Restlessness follows Chaos as there can be no peace if there is no sense of balance.
// Unlimited and unrestricted freedom is actually not a good thing. It allows the slow subversion of good principles until the moral integrity of a nation is so heavily weakened that detrimental practices become the norm. The problem is that most people are not adept at articulating these nuances so the average person will simply dismiss what they're saying.
@@Commander23c ok
"For the Emperor!"
“Remember, you’re part of the 501st. The best of the best.”
-CT 7567 a.k.a. Rex
The 501st was named after the 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, which served in the US Army in WW2. They were named by the founder of the costume club, who named it after his dad's military unit.
Facts!
That's epic
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The fact that Torrent Company almost wiped out multiple times just makes it even more amazing that Ridge survived almost the entire war
Just for him to be killed of not even half a day before the clone wars ended.
Rest in peace ridge
Yeah, only to get killed by a f*cking wall panel. And the rest of Torrent apparently shared Ridge's luck, since the unit was finally wiped out entirely when RAS Tribunal crashed into that moon. I don't think they were ever reformed after that. Just a really tragic way for one of the best clone units in the GAR to go out.
@@occam7382
So, Torrent is all gone now, eh? 😓
@@thalmoragent9344, aside from Ahsoka, Rex, Echo, and maybe a few others who were lucky enough not to be on Tribunal... yeah, basically.
@occam7382
Well... shout out to them I guess. Not enough to keep it a Company, or at least not the same with any OG members.
Probably just kept in the Legion, but now fully manned by new Clones and some Imperial conscripts later on, eventually.
The 501st was one of the most elite fighting force within both the Republic and Empire for good reason. They were led by a hyper-competent leader, they were extremely courageous, they were able to achieve victory in impossible battles, and they were reliable on each other to secure the overall goal of every battle.
On top of that, unconventional thinking is their bread and butter in battles
@@CrimsonRevolutionary To bad they couldn't use their genius against a bunch of rag tag self-proclaimed fighters with junk for ships
@@wahinetoa7943 so apparently someone woke up living violence today, and I appreciate that. Well played
@@wahinetoa7943 well, as it was said: "they grew complacent"
doesn't explain how they were still top notch for decades after the fall of the empire tho
"But not even they could shake off a Vader's Fisting." Not a line I expected to hear today.
*shudders*
Kinky~
So... That's Crisco and poppers...
Was trying so hard to hold in a laugh after hearing that line
I'm surprised this doesn't have more likes 😂😂 I had to do a triple take on that lmao
Not to mention Kix was awoken from cryo sleep during the time of the sequels, so the 501st was still kicking ass there too in a sense.
Sadly that cool lore bit is smeared by being tangled up with the terrible sequels
I heard or read somewhere that Vader gathered all surviving clones into his unit when the empire started taking in natborn recruits. So for the entirety of the empire, all of Vader's fist was comprised of clone troopers.
That was from Battlefront 2 but it wasn’t entirely accurate as by the time of Ep.4 the 501st had plenty of non-Clone members.
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Except Fives and Rex. They’re cool.
Fives did die a hero
Did you mean echo?
To be fair, I prefer the great hero becoming a tragic yet deadly villain take. More romantic (and I mean the medieval epic definition, not the modern love one), has more nuance, and has lots of awesomeness potential.
@@SkywalkerBatPrime well he failed to stop order 66 but he did save Rex, so you may have a point there
Appo and Unidentified Clone Veteran.
“Good Soldiers Follow Orders.” 😢
The clones deserved better.
At least they left a lasting legacy.
They all got to retire with massive pension.
What's wrong?
I kinda liked how Order 66 was portrayed in legends. No inhibitor chips and the order were legitimate orders. Order 66 was an order that called for the execution of the Jedi command structure should the Jedi be considered unfit at best and rebellious towards the Republic at worst. Because it was an order and not a command that cannot be ignored, there were a larger number of Clone deserters than in canon.
Thing is, from a perspective outside of the movies, Order 66 was a legitimate order. Consider that Mace Windu, one of the Jedi Council's highest ranking individual took a squad of Jedi right into the Supreme Chancellor's office to arrest Palpatine without informing the Senate and for, supposedly what could be considered questionable charge that Palpatine was a Sith Lord with no proof. Anyone would consider it a coup by the Jedi Order.
they were retired like a pile of old field equipment
When the Clone Troopers were phased out with Stormtroopers, the 501st Legion was one of the few units that have 100% Fett DNA under Darth Vader's command.
Later on I think they had some none clones. By Hoth, the clones would have been in their 40s (not counting accelerated aging, which I assume got cured at some point). They certainly had a lot more clones than other units though.
Not in canon tho, sergeant kreel is a non clone who was in the 501st
@@huntclanhunt9697 they can still clone more off residual Fett DNA sequencing, it doesn't have to be purely pre-Geonosis veterans left
@@Director_Orson_Krennic that too. But again, in legends it gets implied the accelerated aging is eventually cured.
Anakin knew these guys were just built different
They served even under the Fel Empire in the Legacy era.
The 501st Legion are my personal favorite unit in the Star Wars Universe. I may not be a fan of the Empire, the 501st are still my favorite. Plus I thought it was awesome that they are basically the best of the best. The 501st also being the one trusted to complete Operation: Knightfall, knowing they would get the job done. Plus they were awesome during Star Wars the Clone Wars. But that's just my opinion.
Lets remember that the 501st probably served under the absolute best Skywalker (Jaina Solo Fel) when she became empress. And continued to serve loyally under her and Anakins decendents for well over 100 years. Hell, you could even assume they might've been deployed during the battle on the forgotten world and helped to purge the majority of sith from the galaxy.
Gotta love the "Been There, Shaped History" trope.
Hey were also the Legion that sided with Roan Fel and staged a Coupe against Krayt's cronies.
Don't forget that her boyfriend Jagged Fel knew of the Empire of the Hand's continued existence as of 44 ABY and brought them in as reinforcements during his power struggle with Natasi Daala for control of the Imperial Remnant. Perhaps the 501st served there as well.
At this point the 501st is the Skywalkers personal elite legion
Luke was far superior... axe to grind much?
A very long & storied career for one of the most well-known units of troopers in the Star Wars universe.
I was a little disappointed that you didn't mention that Thrawn's 501st were trained by Daric Larone's squad - the Hand of Judgement
Or Aurek 7! The 501st special forces squad!
Idk if the journal said he participated in ALL the battles, but the thing is he could have started the journal in the last days of the war, with perhaps the legion being split. We almost never see him and skywalker with each other other than in knight fall. So I think it’s likely he DID participate in those battles and the other battles that occurred during that time also happened. And yes it was legends and all but it still could’ve reasonably happened
Even if you were a clone in a legion, there's thousands of clones in a legion, anakin would reasonable push out with mostly the same squads, chances are if you fight besides anakins in 1 battle, you'd fight alongside him in the next to
30 minutes of pure 501st lore. Good. Good!
I didn't know that the 501st legion went on for so long in time thank you for the video Geetsly 10/10.
15:45-“What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word."
Watching this video made me imagine getting transferred or having to work with another legion and having jokes made about you because you're a "famous 501st trooper". Thinking about what's going on in the background of the movies and shows is a nice deep dive. When watching bad batch I wonder how many people were thinking that knightfall was going on whilst force 99 were on kamino
Me. When they were receiving Palpatine's Rise of the New Order speech, the back of my mind was just like, "Anakin, Appo and the 501st just wiped out thousands of Jedi on Coruscant, and Rex and Ahsoka just barely escaped getting killed with Torrent Company on RAS Tribunal."
The narrator of The Journal isn't the same guy throughout. They are all clones, and they all talk to each other. The Journal is a remembrance told by a clone from the points of view of ALL the clones who were at those battles, and then relayed as after the fact info of the mission you play.
I beleive the could make an entire televivision series dedicated to the 501st Legion and I think it cold be amazing, almost like a war drama, dark and gritty to show, almost like Band of Brothers but for the 501st Legion
The moment I hear special treatment and kaminoans in the same sentence, I feel a sense of foreboding
501st is like the 101st Airborne.
And Delta Squad is their Seal Team Six. (With a little bit of the A-Team Thrown in)
Bad Batch...I think of them as the TMNT Brothers.
Delta Squad is more like the Delta Force and Bad Batch would be Recces
@@brianmackenzie3675 recces?
The 502st Journal never claims to be all by the same guy. In the booklet thay came with the disc it even says it was multiple troopers.
Giant genocide ball? Now that’s a description I should use for the Death Star more often lmao
From Skywalker'boys to Vader's Fist.
“ there’s an insurrection…Time to get fisted” -Darth Vader…probably
very good video on 501 Now special quotes from unit "I used to believe that being a good soldier meant doing everything they told you. That's how they engineered us. But we're not droids. We're not programmed. You have to learn to make your own decisions."
―Rex] . Come on, Rex, admit it. You've thought about what your life could look like if you were to also leave the army. Choose the life you want."
"What if I am choosing the life I want? What if I'm staying in the army because it's meaningful to me?"
"And, how is it meaningful?"
"Because I'm part of the most pivotal moment in the history of the Republic. If we fail, then our children, and their children, could be forced to live under an evil I can't well imagine."
―Cut Lawquane and Captain Rex talking in the second year of the Clone Wars.
"You… came for me."
"It should have been me who went in the first place."
―Captain Rex and Anakin Skywalker
So if you're a captain, and I'm a Jedi, then technically I outrank you, right?"
"In my book, experience outranks everything."
―Ahsoka Tano and Rex
Rex, ol' boy, it's time to join the party."
"With pleasure, sir!
"Come on, grunts! We are leaving!
"Rex? You… you came back for me."
"Yes. Yes. I did."
"Wh…What…happened? Where am I?"
"It's okay, Echo. You're safe now. Just sit tight, trooper. You're goin' home."
―Echo and Rex
"Rex? Are you okay?"
"Yeah. Yeah, kid. I'm okay. I'm sorry for what happened earlier. I almost killed you."
―Rex apologizes to Ahsoka after nearly killing her
AND NOW THE MOST FAV OF MINE
"This Ship Is Going Down And Those Soldiers, My Brothers, Are Willing To Die And Take You And Me Along With Them
A moment of silence for the tens of thousands of civilian contractors and the families of officers who died on the Death Star.
@@ReanuKeevesAus And if there were, their deaths are Tarkin's fault for dragging them into an active battle.
@@ReanuKeevesAus There were however a lot of non-combat personnel such as engineers, technicians, scientists, doctors, cooks, and many other maintenance role personnel just there for the pension. Although loyal they were noncombatants and therefore the destruction of the death star is still "technically" a war crime. Though rules get blurry when the military target is the size of a small moon.
@@Cwronaga216 wrong! All Militaries have non combat roles, if they are apart of a genocide machine taking out entire planets in one go then they are valid Targets. It's not a War Crime to destroy the Death Star!
What gives you the impression that it's a War Crime? Genuine question as I served nearly a Decade in the Army in a Combat Role in Combat in Afghanistan and Iraq multiple times so interested to understand how people view the roles in this fictional world of a Rebellion and a Galactic Dictatorship. Thanks!
@@ReanuKeevesAus I said it's technically a war crime by definition it wasn't however saying that it wasn't Justified because in the case of the Death Star the collateral damage of non-combatants was inevitable and was simply a return War Crime After the empire did the same thing on Alderaan. Intentionally and knowingly killing noncombatant Personnel is by definition a war crime according to our real-world military Doctrine and as far as I'm aware the Star Wars Universe does have similar rules regarding war crimes even if the Empire itself disregards them and even the Republic in the case of Anakin and Obi-Wan using false surrender to win battles. War crimes have specific definition as stated within the Geneva Convention intentionally killing non-combatants and unarmed personnel is a war crime by technical definition. Now considering the entire surface of the Moon size station was a valid military Target and the deaths of noncombatant personnel could not be avoided You could argue there is a loophole and because of what happened on Alderaan it's unlikely anyone would care. But it's still technically by definition a war crime also the Rebellion is technically by definition a terrorist organization even if they were in the right and Justified since not all Rebel activity was heroic by any means especially when it comes to the partisan group or wetwork operations like those committed by individuals like Cassian Andor and his crew
@@Cwronaga216it’s not a warcrime if you win -some random rebel soldier
1) I always had a theory that Anakin never promoted Rex because it would allow there to be a "Legion Commander" to organize the detachments and direct them, so Rex could be alongside Anakin and not be burdened with logistics and command and control
2) if they remained pure clones of Fett, the journal having the timeline but the narrators sounding identical, even into the Imperial times would fit your explanation of the irregularity
Huh. When you put it like that, it does kinda make sense why Appo would be the one made Brigadier Commander after Ahsoka left instead of Rex, seeing as Appo was a lot more proficient at handling logistics/command-and-control.
@@occam7382 I guess Rex was always the Mad Dog of the 501st.
Technically the 501st lives on into the sequel era with one of their troops being cryogenicly frozen
I was under the impression that Rex wasn’t (initially) promoted to Senior Commander as Ahsoka, being a Jedi Commander, technically held that role, making her officially the 501st’s second-in-command and Rex the third-in-command
Technically speaking, Rex wasn't even 3rd-in-command. His only de-jure command was that of the 332nd, Torrent Company. But since he was Anakin's clone liasion officer, and the fact that Ahsoka was a literal child when she intially became Brigadier Commander, Rex might as well have been 2nd-in-command of the whole brigade.
And on Kashyyyk, Vader took a small boy as his secret apprentice
Not that time that was a different mission. The recruitment of his secret apprentice came 10 years before the battle of yavin. The mission where appo lost his life was part of the hunt for several Jedi survivors, including roan shryne, and olee starstone.
I’ve just come back to Star Wars after 2 years. Great to see all these channels I watched during our 2019 lockdown thriving today. Gonna head over to some other channels just to see what they’ve got.
"not even the kaminoans could walk off a Vader's fisting"
I don't know how to feel about this.
I'm now imagining Vader using a Kaminoan as a punching bag?
If the nick name legion is just for elite units, then the 501st is a corps since in Star Wars tcw it is mentioned that the 501st had within its ranks three brigades, therefore making it a corps. Tcw is both canon in the EU and disney canon so yeah it’s a corps
It should be the 501st Division, with 4 regiments.
those evil rebels killed all those innocent clones and destroyed the empire's new giant genocide ball
IT HARDLY GOT TO DO EVEN A LITTLE GENOCIDE
Quantem Wensday those rebels klled storm troopers not clones
I dunno remember alderaan?
alderaan was just one planet that barley had a million people
doesn't really count for star wars
501st was the eye sore of the republic an example to every sector of the expectations a precedent set all the way up to the empire
Captain Rex: Company! Ten hut! *all stand attention and salute to one of the greatest SW UA-cam channels of all time*
Noice.
Notice too, that there was not a single battle the 501st took part in that happened on a desert world 🤔
Isn't Geonosis a big desert planet?
Oh, this is going to be a gem.
Blessed be the 501st. Sucks to be the now lost and forgotten 212th, 41st, 327th, 21st, and so many more units.
Seriously, whatever happened to them after the Clone Wars, both in Legends (especially) and the Alt-universe (ongoing lore, yes, but still)?
Addendum: Love the implication that a contingency of the 501st were there on Endor, by the way. Legends lore (as shown on Wookieepedia) sure missed out putting such a group in that influential battle.
What alt universe?
@@raptorzeraora2632 My in-universe/Watsonian terminology name for the Disney Canon universe.
@@michaelandreipalon359 I'd imagine most of them were either assigned to suppressing Separatist holdouts and other anti-Imperial uprisings or became glorified military police in the Mid and Outer Rims.
The different detachments theory makes a lot more sense in the end. After all, how are we to tell it's the same clone? They all have the same voice after all. Plus, it seems more meaningful & sentimental if the journal was written by several different clones.
"Not even they could walk off a vaders fisting"
Oh god that sentance killed me.
I feel like Darth Vader himself would say something similar. Considering what he said to krennic… and if you read the novelization of revenge of the Sith, the separatist counselors
The 501st Legion held the title of elite unit from the time it formed all the way into the Legacy Era.
I actually viewed the 501st Journal as a form of Imperial Propaganda, serving as a form of recruiting for the post-Hoth 501st legion. (Note: The journal makes up the campaign of the 2005 BF2, but ends at Hoth, even though the 501st were present at later battles.) This is also due to the fact that some of their missions likely belonged to other units. (Mygetto, Felucia, Kashyyk and Utapau) This can also be backed up by the fact that BF2 contradicts Dark Forces. In Dark Forces, Kyle Katarn steals the Death Star plans from an Imperial research outpost, while, in BF2, a group of Rebels who escaped from the Death Star prisons stole the plans, transmitted them to the Polis Masa group, who then sent it to Princess Leia. Since Dark Forces had a more fluid storyline, I'm going to say that's what happened.
I'm not saying that all missions are fictional, just that some of the missions feel like they belonged to other units, or that they're made up.
Those aren’t really discrepancies though. In the real world it’s actually fairly common for different detachments of soldiers from one unit to deploy under the authority of another. So there absolutely could have been 501st troopers in all of these battles without much each.
As for the Death Star thing, keep in mind that in Legends the Rebel Alliance received different bits of the Death Star plans from numerous different sources.
To be fair, journal of 501st could very well be different people, as there isn't much to imply it's just one clone. Every clone has the same voice afterall.
The 501st of the GAR needed to use dirty tactics because they couldn't face the might of the Confederacy. Vader's Fist was able to use conventional warfare well enough to not need too. That is the difference
The Imperial 501st literally preformed assassinations and whole sail genocides how are those not dirty tactics.
@@theempiredidnothingwrong3227 Assassinations aren't dirty tactics. And they didn't do it to win battles either, the assassination attempt was merely delayed by an auto turret grid that was shut down by troops who were supposed occupy the city *after* she was killed, the actual number of troops involved and how explosive the conflicts were were exaggerated for gameplay.
Driving to work, thinking about what I’m gonna watch before my shift starts, think “ I wanna watch Geetsly, need some of that Star Wars lore “ just sat my ass down and see a new video
*"I
*lore"
rex was the most badass clone trooper, not to mention the most important one in all of starwars history, he had served in countless battles, and was basically a god among the clones. his iconic dual blaster pistols style was forever etched into many starwars the clonewars fans.
You know the first battle of geonosis was a hellhole when a trooper says “this isn’t like the simulations”
If you're looking for longer video ideas, how about one on the complete history of The Clone Wars, or at least the Outer Rim Sieges?
But make sure to say that some battles and events from the likes of TCW 2008 might be extremely incompatible to Legends lore, and vice versa. One example: where Anakin and Obi-Wan were before they were sent to help out in the Battle of Coruscant (though to be honest, even Labyrinth of Evil and Clone Wars 2003 were differing on that in Legends).
(At least three days before the NYCC, and thirteen days before the return. You know what I mean, right?)
@@michaelandreipalon359 Yeah, I know, for 2003 there were at The Battle of Nelvaan before going to Coruscant, and in Labyright of Evil it was the Recapture of Tythe before Coruscant. So even before the New Canon introduced the Battle of Yarbana the timeline was already confusing.
Yarbana?
@@michaelandreipalon359 Sorry, I meant Yerbana. You know the Battle right before the Siege of Mandalore.
501ST JOURNAL.
"In the waning months of the Clone Wars, the 501st faced missions critical to the agenda of Chancellor Palpatine. When we arrived at the bombed out ruins of Mygeeto, our Jedi commander believed we had been sent to take out a droid energy collector. What Ki-Adi-Mundi didn't know however was that our unit of the 501st was really after an experimental Mygeetan power source, that the Chancellor wanted for his superlaser. Keeping Mundi in the dark wasn't easy; the Jedi had become increasingly wary of the Chancellor's doings, and was on the lookout for the slightest hint of treachery. Just like the rest of them though, he never caught whiff of what was really going on, until it was far too late."
"No One Messes with the 501st!"
The attention to lore in the writing here is great
Fun fact Ridge was part of the original Torrent company and survived basically the whole war until order 66.
I like your idea that Battlefront 2's missions are all being fought by different squads...and it's easy to write off because all the narrators would sound the same (Or it could be Rex relaying the stories told by his compatriots)...and every time you die, you take control of a different trooper anyway, so it makes sense...
This was a great backstory.
24:45 - "Even they couldn't walk off Vader's fisting."
The Dark side is strong with this Line. 😂
"Vader Fisting"
Padme: Oh?
Good seeing my boy Denal get some love in the thumbnail
Would love to see a canon version of this too
Disney has no good canon regarding the 501st.
The only thing remotely cool was when the actual 501st fan group were hired as extras in the season 1 finale of the Mandalorian
You and me both.
@@akumaking1 still canon regardless
Canon, Legends it’s still fantasy and I get to choose which one feels right to me, thats why I’m going to stick with the timeline that isn’t garbage, thank you very much.
One thing I’d like to know is why Cody doesn’t wear all the commander gear.
I wish we would have seen the clone rebellion. Would have made a cool episode of Bad Batch.
But...
"Officially, there never was a clone rebellion."
"Outraged that the Rebels were so evil as to destroy their genocide ball" made me chuckle a bit.
Got to love how brigade for the republic are small divisions for us.
Random question
So in the clone wars when Plo Koon finds Sioho Dias's lightsaber what hapoenes to the lghtsaber?
Probably turned in, and destroyed after order 66
I like that clip of stormtroopers fighting xenomorphs that's an interesting concept
18:38 ish
"Not even they could walk off a Vader's Fisting" I choked on my energy drink, that caught me so off guard
for me i took BOTH campaigns of the OG battlefront games and turned them into a story
from Naboo to Endor ive had a character go from battle to battle, war to war, faction to faction
i gave him the orignal name of Unit 0 as droids in that game where named Unit # with 0 not being there
Unit 0 to CT-7320 to ST-7320 to the "man" known as Zero to eventually become a bounty hunter, he REALY is old OOM Security Droid by the time the empire falls
if Zero though where to survive to the legacy era and continue to replace parts and exchange droid models he would be the last remninant of 4 whole armys over a hundred years later
The newest and the most mysterious question in Star Wars: Why Skywalker did not promote Captain Rex to Commander earlier until the near end of the Clones Wars?
everyone knew rex was boss no matter what
I think because Rex’s combat skills were unmatched, and he wasn’t quite as much of a tactical planner as he was a front liner. Therefore, captain worked better.
A similar situation I could use is if you’ve watched attack on Titan. Levi definitely is the strongest soldier, yet he is also put as captain, because he works better as a front liner.
But was there even a commander for the 501st during that time? It is still weird.
@@noreally2120 There really wasnt a commander for the 501st other than Jedi Padawan Commander Ahsoka Tano.
Rogue Squadron: The best starfighter squadron (do a video about them please)
501st Legion: The best military unit
So what made them so special during the CW except the high casualties? They often won but were decimated so often that it could barely grow into an elite unit. It had a few great names in it's ranks but what else?
the survivors would have so much combat experience that they could use to train newbies that these newbies would be quickly brought up to speed. SF forces often take heavy losses. but are still elite operators due to the wealth of experience their survivors have. ive worked with SF too often to not have picked up on their heavy losses, as they also often operate all but alone in enemy territory, and in small groups, meaning that if they are discovered, every bad guy with a gun is dropped on their heads.
This just makes me sad, my poor clone boys
Well one way the journal of the 501st could work is simply they’re clones they’d all have the same face and voice and rather than hearing from one clones perceptive we’re hearing multiple clones perceptive and it’s all being read by the same voice….since they’d all have the same voice
With Rex being promoted to Commander to lead the 332nd when the Legion splits, my theory is that Appo was also promoted to lead the remaining 501st at the same time as Rex, making so Appo never out ranked Rex, but rather shared the same Rank
They dunked on the galaxy is a great description automatic like
13:15 Isn't it? All the clones have the same voice, and the second mission is to take part in the battle over Coruscant, after which, as a result of serious losses in GRA, the legion may have been divided into smaller units to serve in different sectors, then perhaps it is not so impossible?
501st - Vader's Fist
502nd - Vader's Middle Finger
>;)
Wouldn't it be more probable that the Journal of the 501st could be 100% accurate due to the fact they're clones? It may not necessarily be the same guy, but different clones on each Battlefront?
My favorite clone legion
501st unorthodox methods are inspiring
not so fun fact:
a clone company is 144 total troops
on Umbara, the 501st lost more than an entire company's worth of clones
I wonder if the 501 was actually able to hit their targets. What was their fire accuracy rate?
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It's not explicitly mentioned that the 501st was present on Endor. The 501st journal ends after Hoth and various battles occurred after that. The next BF game that covers the Battle of Endor never mentions the 501st on the ground. It's possible they were either left on Hoth as an occupational force (highly unlikely) or was dispatched to Sullust as a distractionary force during the battle of Endor. Which means the unit may have survived the war mostly intact until divied up by the Imperial Remnants.
Oh that just annoys the crap out of me. Historically regiments of never exceeded 1,000 men under one colonel. Thinking that Rex can handle directly commanding more than 9,000 men in only four regiments. Also Brigade is supposed to represent not only the regiments but everyone else like support staff artillery medical personnel. Those brigades are then sorted into cores which are under the command of generals
I used to adhere to the idea that Canon and Legends stuff could happen in the same timeline, but that’s become harder lately. Besides Star Wars Rebels and the Sequel Trilogy outright being impossible to place in Legends since they tell events far differently, there’s simply the fact that the Clone Wars tv show is also incompatible with Legends novels and comics set in the time period. So to me, the 501st is just a regular clone trooper unit with an outstanding record during the Clone Wars and one of Vader’s two fists, the other fist being the 1st Legion. They took their orders from Anakin/Vader, Ahsoka, Rex, Appo, Piett, and Veers, but not Palpatine. Their Legend’s counterpart is certainly quite interesting and some of it may still be compatible with Canon, but I’ll take the Canon version of the 501st over the Legends one.
I wanna hear more videos about the imperial knight series or whatever it was called
I remember buying and issue at like kmart and it came with a action figure of a imperial in red armor with a white lightsaber
Watching this another time, I realized that you forgot to include Lola Sayu. The 501st was involved with 5 high-ranking members and a couple of other troopers were involved
Covering the history of the Empire of the Hand would be cool
The kind of quality lore we'll probably never see from Disney SW 😅
Couldn't help noticing there was no mention of Disney's fanfic "canon" truly great content keep up the good work
Video Idea: The Most Irredeemable Jedi in History
Krell
Artris and Vrook
All three of the above.
Koffi Arana from the Purge one-shot comic.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Ah, another background Jedi.
Long Video Suggestion: The Complete Life History of Darth Plagueis!
15:45 :
What I remember about the rise of the Empire is… is how quiet it was.
*dip dip dip dip dip*
During the waning hours of the clone wars the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip.
*dip dip dip dip dip*
SAVE IT FOR THE ENEMY
We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do.
KNOCK IT OFF
Did we have any doubts? Any private traitorous thoughts? Perhaps but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple.
*dip dip dip dip dip*
Not a word.
No one could handle a Vader's fisting lmaooo
Something to point out: it's possible that it was many detachments of the 501st legion, but the diary could have been compiled by a historian. Offering up a possible way to explain everything, and the historian making it seem like it came from one clone trooper
Something I would like to note with the 501st journal. They are all clones and they sound the same, could it be that it's actually a different clone talking each time but they all served as 501st clones?
It's amazing that the 501st didnt show any real disdain towards Anakin for the heavy loses the legion suffers. Hell, its amazing that Rex didn't shoot Anakin after all he went through especially after that incident on Umbarra.