We can't tell you how glad we are that this structure is finally completed! It was a HUGE amount of work and took way longer than expected. And never have we ever wanted a nail gun more than during this process. Still lots to improve so let us know your thoughts in the comments and we will be updating our blog on our website lahakai.com to reflect those suggestions as well as the structure! Hopefully this will help the next people who tackle a project like this!! Cheers!
IMPORTANT: You need to add diagonal bracing on your frame arches. This is EASY to do, even with the cover on it. This will prevent the arches from "racking" under wind loads. Diagonals are boards that go from the bottom of one arch through the middle of one or two other arches, and end up near the top of the next arch. REALLY IMPORTANT and easy. Otherwise, you've done a good job and a shed is a great idea. LOVE waking up with you on Sundays!
Yes , your hard work will be a great help , and motivation to the sailing community...Bless your soul , its your calling🙏 you guys will see the end of the tunnel very soon !🙏
The "Roman Arch" is a great design and significantly stronger and roomier than a "A-Frame" design. Look forward to seeing your progress and design for Lahakai.
Great boat shed, would have been easier to place a sea container either side of the boat and roof over that. But you got it done that’s the main thing.
What do you think would be best for our purposes, straps as you mentioned or wood supports? We did put a strap across the bottom already. And we put stakes in the ground afterwards.
Alot of people build the Gothic Arch. Materials are cheap and it's easy to build as long as the builder doesn't use thick materials and overcomplicate the design
Have you considered running rope from the base of one side up over the apex down to the base of the other side between each pair of arches? That will provide for retention of the plastic beyond what the attachment points on the arch frames will provide and keep it from ballooning. It may also be helpful to put battens on top of the tarp at each arch to provide more holding surface for the tarp. Both of these are often added to gothic-arch greenhouses primarily because the covering material (usually translucent plastic) is generally thinner than a tarp.
Add earth anchors. You make a sailing boat and don't thin about the force of the wind on a sail? Also diagonals. Have the base push inward to prevent those beams slide outward. Love the tent!
I built a 60 ft x 20ft arch Barn near 30 years ago to house my cattle and hay they work great .. I sold the farm a few years back and the arch barn is still standing , so you should be fine make sure you have diagonal bracing . Your well on your way . Oh I y Used stayfast wind shear coil straping . Best to you both Angus SV Violet Walters
Pretty neat shed 👍that will protect you from the rain and the sun.I like the curve d trusses !You two have been working hard,anxious to see your progress 😉
Great build, and you made it a sail too. Force x area does some amazing things. We used to use 1/4 inch brass check valves on 15,000 psi equipment, but anything with a larger surface area was 1 inch thick pig iron. Screw in the ground anchors might help, but think the best solution would be away to lift the plastic in a big wind at least most of the way to get that surface area down. USAA had a double claim day the day my buddy & I decided to sail in a tornado. His cat went down the beach end over end, my cat still hooked to the car flipped over still hooked to the trailer. It was a rush to be lifted out of the water, only to plunge back in again. Yes that Lt had me sailing his boat as I had the experience. It was a pretty day when we started. Our wife's were not happy, we were thrilled.
Just as an added option, a stake at every other leg, and a diagonal line upwards from deck tie downs to the wood frame would leave room for a moveable scaffolding without interferance. Just about ready to start, great!
It should have diagonal bracing on it or it could just fold like a set of dominoes with a strong wind to front or back. You could do that with ropes if you don't want to plank it. Needs to be anchored to the ground with something like ground anchors (lots) too or it could take off.
This is something i used to do for a living....shrinkwrap yatchs by using pvc pipe as the frame for the topside of the boat and tie the pvc to the staunches or railings.and for sheds your frame is good but the special shrinkwrap plastic for this purpose when heated gets tight like a drum skin so less wind resistance and more airodynamic and anchor to the ground with steel pegs.
You need wind relief slots at the peak. Then a long drape from end to end that hangs over the slots with weighted edges. Think of Bazaar Umbrellas. The wind under the umbrella escapes through the slot an forces the wind to make a u turn to put pressure in the downward direction, yet,keeps the rain out.
After seeing you build your "tent" for the boat, doing the work on the "Lahakai" should be a piece of cake lol. Looking forward to seeing your progress with the rebuild.
Your shed came out well. God job. I read all the comments and advice about bracing and ropes and closing the ends and whatnot. I'm not an architect or builder, but I do know that Matt's shed (Duracell) is open on both ends and has stood without problems for over one year. The only differences I see between his shed and yours are (a) he added one diagonal brace on each side (b) the arches are anchored to the ground with concrete footers and metal brackets and (c) he connected the shed to the boat at the gunwale so that the boat's weight would help make the shed stable. Love your channel.
Epoxy and Butyl Tape channel lives in the northeast area of America and he enclosed both ends and it retains the heat .he did a really good job but did it quickly
The tarp cover of our (similar, semi-permanent) 30’x30' arch rib fabric shed is held down on the edges by about 10 cu. metres of gravel as ballast. Keeps it stable even under heavy snow load.
I would do the cross bracing with wood and rope. Anchor the frames into the ground with pipe and bolts. I would also close up the front and back if you can adding fans to maintain good ventilation. Lastly I would give yourself a couple more frames front and back so you have additional sheltered area to work in; you will need / want it.
As an engineer I say, that you MUST also tie the shed to the ground to prevent it from flying away with a gust of wind. The easiest way is to do the same as with a circus tent: hammer down some steel poles appr. 60 degrees and well into the ground and then tie down at least three points at each side of the tent each to one pole. This will ensure enough strength. However this is useless if you do not first make several diagonal pieces of wood to prevent i.e. the middle of the tent from lifting during heavy winds. By the way. If you on the frame/arch had turned the short pieces of wood (between the two long boards) 90 degrees, is would have been several times stronger. Today, it risk "rolling" between the boards because of the short cross-section...just saying 😉
This is a great suggestion! Someone else had mentioned using some rebar stakes in the ground. We did throw some in the ground after the video, but we will put more. For the spacer pieces, in retrospect we would have liked a rectangle piece as the square ones rolling were a headache. Good recommend!
This design aka Gothic Arch is used alot and is very durable and cheap as long as the builder uses the proper material and doesn't over complicate it. There's videos all over where people are building the arches and have them fastened to the ground in one day. The thicker the material the less its going to want to bend
I've seen the Gothic Arch built several times and it's simple as long as you don't make it complicated and use thicker material. You need to run ropes down from halfway up the arch on both sides to a metal stake that's beat into the ground so that the wind won't blow it down. The channel Epoxy and Butyl Tape built one and its withstood the northeastern winter in America.
That driveway strikes again! 😆 This was a flashback because we started the structure there and ended it in our new location. Check out how we left, we had to get some help haha ua-cam.com/video/uD8kNCNh-g0/v-deo.html
😊👍Both of you are very welcome , just stay healthy , safe and positive....🤭Thank you very much for your gift , 🙏i will try to call🙏 Here this my lady , 🤔 you have a close look just like the US VP Miss Harris😃😃True !.......You guys do have a very enjoyable evening / night 👍👋👋🙏
Please, for your safety Look back to old Acorn to Arabella episodes about " building the boathouse" And find some used steel pipe about 40 mm ca 1.20 m1 and hammer these in the ground next to your uprights. Connect upright and tentpegs with a bracket and theater rod . Like a circustent is pitched. And yes, tarp till the ground, nailed between two planks. Close the ends , make a double door from planks and tarp . Please ,now you have a kite ,not a temporary boatshed .
You should move two of the Sea Containers to the sides of your tent to allow you to anchor the structure. A high wind gust is going to make your tent fly or the structure will break
Looks great and nice progress. I have no idea how big the potential wind gust can be ..... Maybe you should consider to make some cuts towards the roof at both sides and cover them again with some tarp to make sure you stay dry inside... this way the wind can escape through the roof. Same principal as you see at large terras umbrellas.... just an idea but no idea if feasible 🤔 Looking forward to teh next episode! 😍
So far it was just one gusty moment, the rest of the days have been normal. And the issue was the tarp was all balled up around just 5 supports so it created a pocket that caught the wind. Perhaps now that the wind can just pass through it wont be that bad. But love that idea of the flaps. Would be interesting to have 2 big panels on either side then one piece on the top that over hung them and allowed the wind to pass through that created that umbrella effect like you mentioned. Great ideas thanks!
Ideally you need that tarp t reach the ground, and also wall off the ends of the structure with a tarp ... that way it will act like a building in the wind, and not a wing - if you don't seal it up, it WILL fly away.
I don’t know how windy it can get at your location, but consider that about 15 to 20 miles of wind will get this flying/collapsing. You have the containers in the back - if you can, put them along the sides of the shed, so the exposed area to the wind is reduced by the height of the containers, and also prevents the sideway movement of the structure. Also, the diagonal bracing “Hildebrandt” mentioned, is an absolute must!
@@lahakai I would not consider to attach the shed to the "Crib", as this could lead to rocking not only the crib, but the boat sitting on it - not advisable! Stick with moving the shipping containers to the sides, that is the best solution if you can have it done.
🤔 Please be careful , your health comes first🤔 i do not think that are in a good spot , cant you guys get room on the outside , ( in the yard 🤔) 🙏 Stay safe🙏
i would secure the feet of the shed on the ground to prevent it from flying away in a hard wind. and secure the shed with diagonal mounted ropes to prevnt a crash of the shed in heavy wind.
Yes! We do have stakes in the ground with rebar. And the shipyard is also going to help us out with some heavy weights but haven’t gotten to that yet, we will follow up on that. Cheers!
We can't tell you how glad we are that this structure is finally completed! It was a HUGE amount of work and took way longer than expected. And never have we ever wanted a nail gun more than during this process. Still lots to improve so let us know your thoughts in the comments and we will be updating our blog on our website lahakai.com to reflect those suggestions as well as the structure! Hopefully this will help the next people who tackle a project like this!! Cheers!
Nothing really to add to the conversation today but i can offer you a friendly smile and a wave for the algorithm ...Happy Sunday! 🙂
IMPORTANT: You need to add diagonal bracing on your frame arches. This is EASY to do, even with the cover on it. This will prevent the arches from "racking" under wind loads. Diagonals are boards that go from the bottom of one arch through the middle of one or two other arches, and end up near the top of the next arch. REALLY IMPORTANT and easy. Otherwise, you've done a good job and a shed is a great idea. LOVE waking up with you on Sundays!
I cannot agree more!
Thanks so much! Great tip! Shed is still in the works so we can make improvements!
@@lahakai think of the letter X as in scafling
As a carpenter i was about to say the same:P
I would be pegging the legs to the ground as well.
Kudos for your honestly to also share the things that somehow don´t worl as intended. We all have been there...
meglio di così non si può.....😁😄👍👍👍👍👍👋👋👋👋❤💯💯💯💯💯
It takes a certain courage and resilience to start over in the middle of a project. Good job.
😊👍👍Great ! Outside IS better , not in the dusty shed😊🙏👍
I love the Cathedral !!!!😄😃😀😃😀
Yes , your hard work will be a great help , and motivation to the sailing community...Bless your soul , its your calling🙏 you guys will see the end of the tunnel very soon !🙏
I like ur realness, You tell it like it is, mistakes and all. Its refreshing! Good luck and stay safe.❤️
Prayers for your safety and health.
What a wicked idea, luv it, take care you to. 😊😊😊😊🇬🇧👍🏻
Thanks!
Thank you!! 🙏🙌
I'm glad that i help a little... 😊 now it's gonna be easier to work when raining... 👏👏
We appreciated your help so much!! 🙏🙏
😊👋Hi blessed Sunday to both of you🙏 I do hope that all is going just great !
The "Roman Arch" is a great design and significantly stronger and roomier than a "A-Frame" design. Look forward to seeing your progress and design for Lahakai.
Great boat shed, would have been easier to place a sea container either side of the boat and roof over that. But you got it done that’s the main thing.
Good job!
you guys are sooooo brave and obviously relentless in your quest to live the dream you have, power to you both !!!!!
Thanks so much!! Can't wait to show you when we're in the water one day!!
Your persistence in getting it right is really admirable.
Thanks for video. You should put some diagonal straps for reinforcement the shed, otherweise it may colapse
What do you think would be best for our purposes, straps as you mentioned or wood supports? We did put a strap across the bottom already. And we put stakes in the ground afterwards.
Amazing, you guys really know how to make a shed.
Alot of people build the Gothic Arch. Materials are cheap and it's easy to build as long as the builder doesn't use thick materials and overcomplicate the design
Very elegant solution to the rain problem, you may even be able to sell it afterwards. I saw you sitting down on the job as well!
Thanks!! We had to sit down a lot during this project! 😄 That sun was fierce! 🔥🔥
Have you considered running rope from the base of one side up over the apex down to the base of the other side between each pair of arches? That will provide for retention of the plastic beyond what the attachment points on the arch frames will provide and keep it from ballooning. It may also be helpful to put battens on top of the tarp at each arch to provide more holding surface for the tarp. Both of these are often added to gothic-arch greenhouses primarily because the covering material (usually translucent plastic) is generally thinner than a tarp.
Add earth anchors. You make a sailing boat and don't thin about the force of the wind on a sail? Also diagonals. Have the base push inward to prevent those beams slide outward. Love the tent!
I built a 60 ft x 20ft arch Barn near 30 years ago to house my cattle and hay they work great .. I sold the farm a few years back and the arch barn is still standing , so you should be fine make sure you have diagonal bracing . Your well on your way . Oh I y
Used stayfast wind shear coil straping .
Best to you both
Angus
SV Violet Walters
Pretty neat shed 👍that will protect you from the rain and the sun.I like the curve d trusses !You two have been working hard,anxious to see your progress 😉
Cool shed. looks Sydney Opera House.
Great build, and you made it a sail too. Force x area does some amazing things. We used to use 1/4 inch brass check valves on 15,000 psi equipment, but anything with a larger surface area was 1 inch thick pig iron. Screw in the ground anchors might help, but think the best solution would be away to lift the plastic in a big wind at least most of the way to get that surface area down. USAA had a double claim day the day my buddy & I decided to sail in a tornado. His cat went down the beach end over end, my cat still hooked to the car flipped over still hooked to the trailer. It was a rush to be lifted out of the water, only to plunge back in again. Yes that Lt had me sailing his boat as I had the experience. It was a pretty day when we started. Our wife's were not happy, we were thrilled.
cats are animals. catamaran is called catamaran
@@userjarabecko Yes I know but most call them beach Cats.
cool
Great job. I enjoy your channel. You could anchor the corners down by driving or drilling a steel pipe or rod into the ground.
Just as an added option, a stake at every other leg, and a diagonal line upwards from deck tie downs to the wood frame would leave room for a moveable scaffolding without interferance. Just about ready to start, great!
It should have diagonal bracing on it or it could just fold like a set of dominoes with a strong wind to front or back. You could do that with ropes if you don't want to plank it. Needs to be anchored to the ground with something like ground anchors (lots) too or it could take off.
Great working shed a lot of boat builders have done the same style well done. 👍
Thanks! We were following some great YT videos for this like Duracell's shed that looks amazing. But his is prettier than ours 😝
😃👍Nice , looking great !
This is something i used to do for a living....shrinkwrap yatchs by using pvc pipe as the frame for the topside of the boat and tie the pvc to the staunches or railings.and for sheds your frame is good but the special shrinkwrap plastic for this purpose when heated gets tight like a drum skin so less wind resistance and more airodynamic and anchor to the ground with steel pegs.
You need wind relief slots at the peak. Then a long drape from end to end that hangs over the slots with weighted edges. Think of Bazaar Umbrellas. The wind under the umbrella escapes through the slot an forces the wind to make a u turn to put pressure in the downward direction, yet,keeps the rain out.
After seeing you build your "tent" for the boat, doing the work on the "Lahakai" should be a piece of cake lol. Looking forward to seeing your progress with the rebuild.
Congrats on 10k subs. I have a feeling its only starting
Ah thanks so much!! We haven’t even had a moment to stop and celebrate! So much work to be done, but we are so happy and hope you are right!!! 🙏🙏🙌⛵️
Your shed came out well. God job. I read all the comments and advice about bracing and ropes and closing the ends and whatnot. I'm not an architect or builder, but I do know that Matt's shed (Duracell) is open on both ends and has stood without problems for over one year. The only differences I see between his shed and yours are (a) he added one diagonal brace on each side (b) the arches are anchored to the ground with concrete footers and metal brackets and (c) he connected the shed to the boat at the gunwale so that the boat's weight would help make the shed stable. Love your channel.
Epoxy and Butyl Tape channel lives in the northeast area of America and he enclosed both ends and it retains the heat .he did a really good job but did it quickly
The tarp cover of our (similar, semi-permanent) 30’x30' arch rib fabric shed is held down on the edges by about 10 cu. metres of gravel as ballast. Keeps it stable even under heavy snow load.
Should have watched Sailing nandji, cover in Thailand on 47 ft boat, cheap to make and works.
Crikey, that looks like the Opera House's little brother. I hope and pray it does the job for you both.
Great job guys, well done. It will hold on fore sure. No worry. Cheers
I would do the cross bracing with wood and rope.
Anchor the frames into the ground with pipe and bolts.
I would also close up the front and back if you can adding fans to maintain good ventilation.
Lastly I would give yourself a couple more frames front and back so you have additional sheltered area to work in; you will need / want it.
As an engineer I say, that you MUST also tie the shed to the ground to prevent it from flying away with a gust of wind. The easiest way is to do the same as with a circus tent: hammer down some steel poles appr. 60 degrees and well into the ground and then tie down at least three points at each side of the tent each to one pole. This will ensure enough strength. However this is useless if you do not first make several diagonal pieces of wood to prevent i.e. the middle of the tent from lifting during heavy winds. By the way. If you on the frame/arch had turned the short pieces of wood (between the two long boards) 90 degrees, is would have been several times stronger. Today, it risk "rolling" between the boards because of the short cross-section...just saying 😉
This is a great suggestion! Someone else had mentioned using some rebar stakes in the ground. We did throw some in the ground after the video, but we will put more.
For the spacer pieces, in retrospect we would have liked a rectangle piece as the square ones rolling were a headache. Good recommend!
I’m impressed by your commitment to this design.
This design aka Gothic Arch is used alot and is very durable and cheap as long as the builder uses the proper material and doesn't over complicate it. There's videos all over where people are building the arches and have them fastened to the ground in one day. The thicker the material the less its going to want to bend
I've seen the Gothic Arch built several times and it's simple as long as you don't make it complicated and use thicker material. You need to run ropes down from halfway up the arch on both sides to a metal stake that's beat into the ground so that the wind won't blow it down. The channel Epoxy and Butyl Tape built one and its withstood the northeastern winter in America.
Nice job! I hope they get the driveway entrance fixed before you try to exit. 😎
That driveway strikes again! 😆 This was a flashback because we started the structure there and ended it in our new location. Check out how we left, we had to get some help haha ua-cam.com/video/uD8kNCNh-g0/v-deo.html
@@lahakai I got it. I guess the "out of sequence like a French movie" didn't click with me . 😎
😊👍Both of you are very welcome , just stay healthy , safe and positive....🤭Thank you very much for your gift , 🙏i will try to call🙏 Here this my lady , 🤔 you have a close look just like the US VP Miss Harris😃😃True !.......You guys do have a very enjoyable evening / night 👍👋👋🙏
Please, for your safety
Look back to old Acorn to Arabella episodes about " building the boathouse"
And find some used steel pipe about 40 mm ca 1.20 m1 and hammer these in the ground next to your uprights. Connect upright and tentpegs with a bracket and theater rod .
Like a circustent is pitched.
And yes, tarp till the ground, nailed between two planks.
Close the ends , make a double door from planks and tarp .
Please ,now you have a kite ,not a temporary boatshed .
You should move two of the Sea Containers to the sides of your tent to allow you to anchor the structure. A high wind gust is going to make your tent fly or the structure will break
Enclose the structure completely during high wind, this will prevent the wind getting under it creating a sail.
Looks great and nice progress. I have no idea how big the potential wind gust can be ..... Maybe you should consider to make some cuts towards the roof at both sides and cover them again with some tarp to make sure you stay dry inside... this way the wind can escape through the roof. Same principal as you see at large terras umbrellas.... just an idea but no idea if feasible 🤔 Looking forward to teh next episode! 😍
So far it was just one gusty moment, the rest of the days have been normal. And the issue was the tarp was all balled up around just 5 supports so it created a pocket that caught the wind. Perhaps now that the wind can just pass through it wont be that bad. But love that idea of the flaps. Would be interesting to have 2 big panels on either side then one piece on the top that over hung them and allowed the wind to pass through that created that umbrella effect like you mentioned. Great ideas thanks!
May God bless you too in the name of Jesus Christ Amen.
put wooden stakes on the ground and tie the shed with cables.
🥰👍
you need to put cross bracing at a 45's make the letter X cross bracing
Ideally you need that tarp t reach the ground, and also wall off the ends of the structure with a tarp ... that way it will act like a building in the wind, and not a wing - if you don't seal it up, it WILL fly away.
I don’t know how windy it can get at your location, but consider that about 15 to 20 miles of wind will get this flying/collapsing. You have the containers in the back - if you can, put them along the sides of the shed, so the exposed area to the wind is reduced by the height of the containers, and also prevents the sideway movement of the structure. Also, the diagonal bracing “Hildebrandt” mentioned, is an absolute must!
Good tips!
We will look into the diagonal braces. Was even thinking about putting some attached to the crib. What do you think about that?
@@lahakai I would not consider to attach the shed to the "Crib", as this could lead to rocking not only the crib, but the boat sitting on it - not advisable! Stick with moving the shipping containers to the sides, that is the best solution if you can have it done.
@@hgdesignhouseboat5591 Thanks for the advice! duly noted!!
Yes... now you have sails...
Thank you for your vlog, it’s an interesting journey. Can I suggest a little less talking and no crazy loud music.
🤔 Please be careful , your health comes first🤔 i do not think that are in a good spot , cant you guys get room on the outside , ( in the yard 🤔) 🙏 Stay safe🙏
i would secure the feet of the shed on the ground to prevent it from flying away in a hard wind. and secure the shed with diagonal mounted ropes to prevnt a crash of the shed in heavy wind.
Yes! We do have stakes in the ground with rebar. And the shipyard is also going to help us out with some heavy weights but haven’t gotten to that yet, we will follow up on that. Cheers!