Reflex Defensive Rider Systems (RDRS) Explained for Harley-Davidson Motorcycles
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- A thorough explanation of the new 2020 Model year RDRS or Reflex Defensive Rider Systems that were applied to the Touring family of Harley-Davidson motorcycles. This is a collection of Electronic Chassis Controls that are designed to match motorcycle performance with available traction during acceleration, deceleration, and braking. Matt Laidlaw goes into the details and demonstrates some of these features.
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Harley needs to start paying you for all the great videos you do. Thanks for the breakdown of the new system.
Totally. I get a half assed explanation from the dealer. But matt turns it into quality tv.
Matt is a stud!!!
He works for Harley, they do pay him.
Lol he owns a dealership
I just bought a SGS yesterday and didn’t have any of this explained to me. Thank you Matt for the awesome and informative video
Great video. I'm just upgrading from a 2012 Electra Glide Classic (FLHTC) to a 2020 Ultra Limited (FLHTK). I've ridden my 2012 cross-country extensively. When I bought it, ABS was a selling feature, and it probably saved my (and my wife's) life on a couple of occasions at least. Great feature. The 2020 FLHTK I just bought (with 9,000 mi.) has the RDRS system on it, and I am very grateful for the added safety technologies. I am 60 years old and have been riding my whole life. I have nothing left to prove to anyone, so bring on the new safety tech!
I don't understand people are complaining about RDRS (safety), if you don't like it don't buy it. Thanks for the info Matt, great video.
Thanks for watching.
yeah i actually wanted it but the dealer could not find it yet so i got road glide limited without it but i did want it you can turn it off if you dont want
@@MattLaidlaw I'd like to see HD allow for the options like TC modes to be manipulated through the infotainment system like Indian and BMW. Maybe cause less confusion for those use to HD but not these types of systems.
@@Bredaxe the advantage to this style is that you can change modes while riding, without taking your hand off the bars.
@@usmcvet0313 That's how my bike is also. I like the mode button right where it is at my left thumb
Mat I just bought a 2023 road glide limited. That has Tc button and didn't pay to much attention to the guy telling me about the bike. Thanks! It helped a lot
😂same here😂
Thanks Matt, I have been frustrated with Harley Davidson and other Motorcycle manufactures for spending too much time on flashy paint schemes, horsepower and slick advertising instead of looking out for their ridership and focusing on additional safety features. I am pleased to see Harley Davidson finally using these technical advances and incorporating them into their motorcycles. I hope Harley Davidson stays the course and keeps engineering new safety features for the sole purpose in keeping their customers alive, not to mention giving new riders more confidence and encouraging new riders to the sport. Good move Harley.. it’s about damn time!
horsepower? where?
Thanks Matt, im just about to pick up my new ultra limited, tomorrow actually. When i want to know something about Harley, this channel is where i come.
The Road King with RDRS Displays the Tire Pressure on the Small screen that displays odometer, trip meter, etc. You cycle to it with the trigger switch.
What button do I press for this.
Thanks for going over The RDRS Matt your presentation was thorough and precise. It’s always good to be armed with knowledge when you step in to a dealership. Thanks again Matt.
Matt, this is one of your best videos, full of good information!
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Cool👍🏻 glad you liked it.
Umatilla checking in! ✌️
As a buyer in the market for a new touring model, I can appreciate the demonstrations you gave and overviews of each feature. Thanks again Matt
Hot dang brother. thanks a lot. I never had a chance to go over these things because the bike was delivered to me from my dealer. Now I know it real good. Thanks a bunch.
This is the kind of video harley needs to put out every time a new feature comes out or a new bike to fully inform their clients as ro the products how they work and what they are for.
Well that’s what they got me for 😉
Matt, HD should pay you and really use this video to teach the salesman across the country of the benefits of the RDRS system. The video was very informative and high quality as always!
Matt Laidlaw for CEO!
Great job Matt. Very good explanation of the new systems. Thanks!
Great video. My Harley shop here in my neck of the woods asked me about this yesterday, I'm buying a '21 Street Glide Special and after this video I think it would be a great thing to have to keep my son and I safe.
Excellent video Matt! I'm researching the RDRS based on a comment by Jerry Palladino on one of his recent videos. Thanks for the clear and easy explanations of this system. 🇺🇸
Rockin that Coast Glide hat! Great video, keeping the masses informed. Much appreciated.
Always representing!!
I have these features on my '17 R1200GS. Wildly different bikes, but very helpful features. I'm glad Harley is adding this. I went from an 04 Ultra Classic and will likely come back. My decision to go to a GS was based on the tech side of these features. While I'm not the young man I once was, it's really beneficial.
I will say going back to other bikes without these features means you need to be careful. You start to realize those features clean up your riding, especially cornering ABS. Very hard to trust that feature for me at first but it'll really save your ass taking a curve to hot. None of this can defy the laws of physics but it makes for a safer ride. Traction control can also save your ass from a small patch of gravel in the most inconvenient spot.
It's worth having on any bike. Great overview. Now I have to convince my wife I need a Harley again. She grunts and groans getting on the back of a very tall GS. She's admitted the Harley was more comfortable for a passenger.
My 2009 K1300GT has ALL of these same functions and its 10 years old.
This just proves that Harley Davidson is EASILY 10 years behind other manufacturers in technological advancements. Give em' another 10 years and MAYBE they'll get to figuring out how to get the windscreen to go up/down and figure out how to eliminate the chain drive primary. Also in another 10 years from now maybe they'll introduce a reverse feature much like one that comes factory equipped on ANY 90's era Honda Goldwing!
@@kennethwise7108 My '92 K75S has ABS. First generation but way ahead of HD. I don't think they offered ABS until 2006/8 on the touring bikes.
@@socialoracleI have been the proud owner of many HD products since age 18, they need to address their price points or they'll never get back to where they need to be.
Man, that blue one at the 17:00 mark is beautiful.
They are making bikes safer & safer.
Good video Matt. Thanks a bunch.
Happy Harley finally has added some of this stuff but not sure any of it's "new" rather just new to Harley. BMW, for example has had lean-sensitive ABS for a few years, now as well as traction control. All-in-all - more safety features for riders are greatly appreciated. Great job, Matt - you do excellent work!
So has Ducati and aprilla.
If you need TC maybe it's too powerful for you
@@AudriusN That must be it.
@@AudriusN Wheel slip can happen on any motorcycle regardless of power.
Matt, thanks for walking us through this. I was waiting for your plain-speak, no-nonsense explanation ... and you didn't disappoint. It's interesting that the Hold Mode indicator is partially obscured by the speedo needle ... strange considering the only time you would engage Hold Mode is if you are at 0 mph. I wonder why H-D didn't locate the indicator somewhere else?
My wife and I are wanting to take a trip to CA on our bike from here in TN. If we do, Laidlaw Harley will be a must see stop.
Finally...a complete RDRS explanation. Well done Matt!
Thanks! And thank you for watching
I picked up a 22 Street Glide last month and didn't know about this. Thanks for the info.
Glad I could help!
I have a '20 Road Glide Limited with RDRS. It is awesome. Ive already used the hill assist several times and it helps, especially with the bike being nearly 1000lbs.
When using hill assist you still have keep the clutch pulled in correct ?
@@DMobley232 ua-cam.com/video/GbiPayv9inc/v-deo.html This video explains ot pretty well
You got that right me coming off a low rider s 120 pounds more it a lot. I came across sand tonight and with just A fraction amount of slip from the rear tire it kicked right in reduced the power and there was no slippage of the Rear wheel. Yes probably would have made it through but with that your chances increase by 99% the hill assist breaking is absolutely wonderful.
Great video, Matt. Someone needed to break this down for the common consumer. Although I’m still a tad bent on HD not including LED’s in their new model year bikes, the addition of the RDRS system is state of the art and will make riding safer in all types of conditions. Well worth the 1K price tag in my opinion.
Thanks Matt. Ran across this video by chance and it is awesome. I just bought a 22 ultra after being on a 2008 for some time. and I liked the idea of the RDRS when he dealer told me about it, but your video really helped me understand it at a whole new level. Funny thing is, I actually had the RDRS engage on me riding home today. My engine shut down power to my rear wheel on a hard take off and I wasnt sure what had happened. Most likely started to loose traction to my rear wheel. This video just put me at ease, since I thought I had damaged something durring my break in. lol. thanks once again for the very informative video.
Great job Matt for explaining the electronic chassis control. I have a Kawasaki Versys 1000 SE+ that has this same system, and it is amazing how often you note your rear wheel is spinning up. I can set it on three modes, and most intrusive I will hear the engine back off the power to prevent a power slide situation. It is GP inspired technology, Kawasaki came out with it on the 200 horsepower Ninja 1000 H2.
I would highly recommend this system, even for the seasoned rider, as the technology using parameters of lean angle and inertia, coupled to the traction control system is amazing. When you find yourself riding in the rain unexpectedly, it's funny how you see the system engage to keep the bike upright, and you in control.
I just bought my first Harley I never even knew about the feature, but I'm glad it has it
Thanks for demo !
Although HD says " don't depend on TPMS to be 100% accurate ",
My 2016 is always right on/in sinc to pressure gauge reading.
I was also originally leary about the integrated brake system , but it works very nice.
Idk but a lot of people criticize the new technology on these bikes. Honestly it’s wonderful that they have all of these safety features. It makes riding even better and having a 30K+ bike protected even more with these new features
Ive got a 08 superglide i feel the bike and how it acts that way by my ass ( i was a dirt track race car driver for 30 so years ) abs will get you killed. allso all this electronic stuff is expensive and coastly to find whats gone bad and to but buy the part
Great video.
Hold mode:
Bike has to be in gear. To disengage it, you can either take off, or reapply firm pressure, and it will shut off.
Way to go...definitely.
But note; that if Your in HC and You turn the bike off it will roll backwards...!!! The system could hold for a optional view seconds and warn You with a sound...before the bike rolls so You’ll know.
Hope this will be available in Germany as well.
Thanks for the awesome review.
This is very helpful my sales associate had trouble explaining the system
Thank you Matt! Your video is awesome as usual. I have RDRS on my RG Limited. I didn't want it, but the bike I wanted in the showroom had it and I swallowed hard and paid the 1K for the feature. Rats! Now I can't live without it. Harley got this one right. I have talked with owners of other brands and they complained about it's inference and turn it off. I live in a very hilly area with stops on steep roads, this is a great option. I am a believer as well.
Thank you for the great Video and Tech info on RDRS. My son and I just purchased 2 Black Road Glide Specials with RDRS. You Rock Matt !!
“Matt Laidlaw`s informative riding channel”....😀...I watch your videoes more times every week and enjoy it very much...keep,it coming...!!...💪😎👍
Very cool technology anything to increase safety while riding is almost a no brainer. Like you said if a burnout is what you want the option to shut it off is there. So you end up with the best of both worlds. Nice job Matt!...
These features should be standard IMHO. When you spend that much for a bike they should give you some extra value. Especially on the entry model bikes where those riders would most benefit from the additional safety features. ( I am a harley owner currently.)
Are u kidding harley does NOTHING FOR FREE
Similar system comes on Challenger Limited and Dark Horse
I also bought a 21 Road Glide Limited and it had it on there "standard" but still had to pay the ~$1000 for it. I've "played" with some of the features and I like it. Even the hill hold feature thatbi originally thought was "gimicky" is nice in certain situations.
I transited from a ktm adventure, having all
These features on my roadking 22 makes my ride a peace of mind
Great system and great review. Thanks Matt. Love the hill mode. Two hands and both legs free= less tip overs. Lol. Glad to see Harley catching up on some of this technology.
Excellent video Matt. I would of stepped up on the RDRS option if it has been available on my 2019 Ultra. The hill hold alone would of been a big attraction for me. The rest of the features pays for them self’s. If I loose the bike in a curve in wet weather, the cost of the damages alone would far exceed the price of this option not to mention getting seriously hurt. It’s one of those option that if it comes into play just once in 100,000 miles, it will of paid for itself.
I got more out of this Video then any where else or from any HD Dealer. Excellant Job. Thanks.
Fantastic info, this has convinced me to go for the 2020 model
6:35 happened to me on my '06 Fat Boy. I was carrying a passenger too and thankfully, I managed to regain control. Now I know what happen. Thank you for explaining RDRS. Now I wished I got the touring model instead of the Goldwing.
The technology today and Harley Take careDavidson motorcycles is a major Improvement Thanks for The video
Nothing like cornering hard turns and downshift to the wrong gear for a moment of pucker! Those are some nice features and can see the progression as we roll!
Great explanation! I guess the thing to weigh is the likelihood that RDRS will ever provide any benefit versus the likelihood that RDRS will ever cause any problems. Personally the hill feature is of no use to me, just got accustomed to doing without, and I feel about the same way regarding traction control and etc. Will keep the bike simpler and save the $1000. If I was really worried about additional safety I probably shouldn't be riding a motorcycle.
When pulling out or turning to the right from a stop you should have just your right foot down, so the Hill Hold is gonna be awesome when performing that maneuver on an incline!!! Great job H-D!
Really enjoyed the video. Thanks for keep the HD world up to date and taking the time to make these videos. My number one source for honest and well thought out opinions.
This system is a must Matt, especially here in NorCal. If you've ever ridden in San Francisco, I will be highly desirable. Thanks for a great overview Matt.
Thanks for the comment. 👍🏻
Thanks Matt. Sitting next to my new SG special with rdrs. I Like vehicle hold mode. That’s a awesome feature.
The Motor Company
FINALLY put some modern day amenities into these bikes! I have both a Harley Davidson and BMW and my BMW has all of this technology on it. Granted it took the Motor Company 10 years to do so but it is a step in the right direction, better late than never I guess.
Another great video and breakdown of Harley product. You do the best open, honest reviews of your own product. Much appreciated and Great job!
Best and most informative video I've see on this feature Matt. Thanks from the UK :)
Greetings from Oz. Many thanks Matt for this vid explaining the system …. I have it and had no idea there was a rain mode or that TC could be de-activated.
I think I need this I was going to buy a used 19 now I need a 20.
Thanks for making this video! You explained everything really well and answered all the questions I had. I wish I was closer to you guys - I would come buy my next bike from you for sure
Hot Damn! YEA, AWESOME job Matt, appreciate all your videos and insight, greetings from South Texas!
Are there "window stickers" or build sheets that are available to buyers so we know exactly what features the bike contains? Don't think I've ever seen such. I'd like to see a 'window sticker' available for every new bike.
Matt, you rock. Your video's are all meat and no potatoes. Thank you.
That hill hold is worth getting this system alone especially on bigger bikes. I don't need it but it sure is convenient and I would certainly appreciate having it. My only concern with the system altogether is it adding more possible fail points mechanically on the bike. More things that could break down and need servicing but I think it's worth having.
Im a new rider. 18 hrs of riding. Maybe. My first bike 24 street glide. I get this was a big choice but i choose a new bike over a 2016 CVO because of these features. I know they dont replace skill but they will help me learn.
Also the RDRS system bikes have the 90 degree valve stems which i find awesome.
Definitely have been stopped on some steep hills which made me "focus" a lot more 😂 Pretty cool that this system eliminates that problem, although it also removes some rider control which would (hopefully) result in a more skilled rider.
Always honest and informative. My next Harley will be purchased at your shop and I will drive it all the back to Utah! Since my Road King is a 2018 that might be a while Matt.
Good post .... and you are correct this feature was not a point-of-sale discussion with the dealership - including the brake hold ;-)
Grabbed a 2021 road glide special today wooh!
Excellent video and explanation of the system!!!
My 2012 K1600 BMW has most of this as standard. My shovelhead though, has nothing. It barely has brakes, and I somehow prefer it, it's simplicity, it's rawness. You rely on your experience and skill. Is all this tech making bikers soft?
Remember how many idiots were on the road when the Shovel was built compared with today, yes ide say it is neccersary
Matt - great video. Tell Harley your video and RDRS was the deciding factor in me purchasing a Road King over an Indian Chief Vintage...
Thanks for the video I have a 20202 CVO Road Glide and this video answered all my questions.
Good. Thanks for watching. Glad I could help
Great info. I'm excited to take delivery this week of a Street Glide Special with the RDRS.
Harley should make you their spokesman .... you have the best content.
Thanks man 👍🏻
The hill hold feature is nice except when you unload the bike from a trailer. When you're backing down a ramp if you squeeze the brake too hard, it'll activate the hill hold and you're stuck. You have to go forward (up the ramp) to deactivate it and then go back down. Kind of a pain. There should be a way to deactivate it.
Matt Laidlaw can the RDRS be added to a 2020 Road Glide at a dealership? I bought my new bike without really understanding what this option does. After watching your video, I wish I had the RDRS feature.
Very impressive. Was wondering when Harley would catch up with Honda, BMW, ETC. I can see these features helping new riders tremendously. Nice to have for skilled riders. I’d love to have the position hold feature. Normally, hills aren’t a problem but on my ride to work I have to hit a 75% corner that is also a steep incline. Oh, and there’s a damn stop sign. For this situatuon alone I’d pay the extra thousand. Great stuff Matt. I swear when I’m in the market again, I’m making the trek to your place from Jersey. Ride safe brother.
I added "Hill Start Control" to my GS. I haven't used it that often. I live in a hilly area but rarely need it. I'd say it still takes getting used to. I'd still practice to get used to it.
Absolutely love my 2020 FLHTK geezer glide!
Well I also have a BMW R1200GS and nothing of this electronics is new but it’s very useful and lot of welcome in HD touring bikes This in fact should be optional for all the line up. In my beemer the brake to avoid the rolldown in uphill is also useful to avoid rolldown in downhill as well. One ask for you guys don’t you think it’s time to HD avoid us the humiliation to burn our hands when in the gas station we set up the tires pressure? Ok thanks for the videos for your time it’s a lot of interesting and good vibes to you all, from Sao Paulo, Brazil.
Thanks man. I didn’t even know I had all those features on my bike.
Thank you for the video. I just got my 2021RGS
looks like its time for a new bike, thanks for easy explanations!
Great review, as always. Thanks for the info. Definitely will be getting it on my next bike. Just bought a 19 RGU so it will be awhile. Curious who is building the system, Bosch was and is the foremost, as years ago KTM introduced it with much scepticism, however once it was proven then BMW and many others jumped on the band wagon. Glad to see Harley finally embrace the technology. Here in Florida the roads are like Ice when its raining and just pulling away very carefully I have spun the rear wheel. Going around corners you have to do everything slow and careful or the bike can slide out, even a 940 lb RGU. Thanks again Matt.
This would be a perfect system to have as option on all the hds. Especially here in Scandinavia where everyday is rain day
I love the vehicle hold man- Here in SF Bay area especially in the city the constant braking on hills can just be a pin in the ass in a few area in heavy traffic. I live up on the Santa Cruz mtns and traffic gets nuts one weekend if it is really bad you can end up doing the brake on a fairly steep hill 20-30 times in 2 miles.
thank you so much for such an informative video!! I just put a deposit down on a 2022 Street Glide Special :) I've been riding a 2002 Heritage for 12 years, and I also have a 2005 Heritage, so this is going to be different!! LOL I'm not use to having bells and whistles on my bikes. LOL
I think this is really good for inexperienced new riders to Harley
Great video. Helped me figure out the rain/road mode.
Great Presentation Matt. Very informative! Thank you.
Because of your vids...I bought my harley 2020 RG special.....Keep it up Matt..
I just need to get used to the weight 😅 but great bike
The roll hold for stopping on a slop is a feature that is standard on the pan american deluxe adventure ....and i began to appreciate abs brakes on the 2017 dyna S as one day going into the parking lot kinda hot of our O'Reilly parts house and there is a lot of fine sand on their concrete parking lot and not visible and grabbed a handful of front and rear brake ..and in half second i felt and heard the front tire siding to the right while turning left into a parking space ..and i was about a half second slow on reaction time to save a high side washout and slamming the bike onto its left side as i was still doing at least 15 mph and probably not be able to buff out all the possible scratches ..the abs brake system let go of the front brake calipers allowing the front wheel to regain traction correcting my lean angle as i was already in the process of going down then when the front tire stopped sliding it grabbed better traction allowing me to roll into a parking space perfectly as the abs saved me a ton of embarrassment .. the kind of which if your buddies ever see the damage that would have been at least a small dent in the gas tank with a slightly greater pull back to the left handle bar more than the right side handle bar... Bent or broken clutch lever with a scratch up left fork leg and a front fender with bright wide areas of black paint ground down with the factory primer coat showing that your friends will never let you live it down ...
Definitely a technological advancement for H-D instead of just a different color of paint or some other blingy cosmetic stuff so kudos to H-D for it. But the thing is there have been other motorcyle manufacturers that have been offering similar features for a few years now and the features have been included into the price of the bike, not an added expense. But anyway you look at it, it's a good thing.
That's not really a fair comparison though. These features are included by other manufacturers on sports and adventure bikes, and generally not on cruisers. It's a different kind of riding that's done with those bikes. And don't kid yourself, it may be standard and not an option you need to pay extra for to get, but you are paying for it. It's just included in the total. Even KTM has an additional riding modes software package for their bikes that you can purchase for a couple of hundred bucks.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 Understood these features are included in other manufacturers models and therefore you're paying for it. But H-D models are already pricey anyway and H-D is very much in a catch-up situation in regards to all "new" (new for H-D) features and technology they've introduced in the past few years. If it wasn't for other manufacturers introducing new improved and much more reliable motorcycles with improved performance and H-D seemingly reluctantly having to keep up, we'd all still be riding 4-speed Shovelheads....lol.
Great explanations of what I was wondering about what the RDRS does on my new bike. I’m curious if this system will help with going down or up gravel driveways.
Good video Matt . I just bought the 2020 Road Glide Special with RDRS .
You can also squeeze your brake again to disengage hold mode
Great video, thanks for sharing. I had been researching these items and found this one from a while ago. One thing to add on the newest versions of Hill Hold, you have to be in gear (of course clutch engaged) for it to work. It WILL NOT work in neutral so you DO NOT have use of both hands while engaged. Kinda silly to me to switch one hand for another, but maybe that restriction can be turned off in the system. Still waiting for that answer.
I hope this helps, although a bit late to the comments, great stuff and thank you for all the useful videos.
I have just bought a new 2022 Road glide special two weeks ago, and mine hold's in neutral, and riding in Wales UK it's used often and daily
Seems like every video I see starts with "this is standard on everything except the FLHT." Of course I have a '19 FLHT. 🤣
don't feel bad. i'm 32 and if i bought a new bike that is probably the one i would buy. less crap to break.
2012 stability control was mandated for all cars. It can save more lives than seatbelts. Helps prevent oversteer and understeer with TC/ABS/torque control. Stability control uses an IMU with ABS/TC/torque control. Algorithms computing traction sharing, brake sharing. Sometimes algorithms saves you before you get into trouble. Stability control in cars have made this available for motorcycles. Some brands are making standard all the way to 125 cc These driver assists are in the background at all times. They are never distracted. Tired, and give 100%. Most are non intrusive.
Good overview. The ABS systems are the principal component. It's the meat and they are just adding the taters.
Excellent info! Thanks for the video Matt.
Thanks, I learned. Lot about my bike.