*Chapters* 00:00 Nexon With CNG 03:03 Same Issues as Before 05:05 Twin Tank Design 08:56 Spare Wheels & Packaging 09:35 Premium 10:45 CNG Safety 12:06 Cabin & Equipment 14:33 Driving the Nexon CNG 19:00 Range 21:28 Petrol vs CNG 23:18 Suspension 24:37 Highway Performance 30:35 CNG vs Electric 34:47 vs Maruti Suzuki Brezza 36:30 Niggles & Glitches 39:52 Reliability Notes 42:04 Quick Summary 46:34 Tata Curvv CNG 47:56 Up Next *Explore MotorInc memberships* at youtube.com/@motorinc/join
I've been driving my Tata Tiago iCNG 2022 model for over 30,000 kilometers now. In the city, I'm getting around 20-21 kilometers per kilogram on CNG, and on the highway, with a relaxed driving style, I'm getting around 27-28 kilometers per kilogram. I must say, if you can find a good service center for your Tata vehicle, it's a super affordable and reliable car to maintain.
I think Motorinc needs to compile all of Shumi’s puns and one-liners and release a book titled “Shumi’s Pun Shop”. Also, I rate the summary two batlas.
The jokes aside, It is indeed fascinating to see how two of India's automotive giants, Tata and Mahindra, are carving distinct paths in the industry, playing to their strengths and consumer demands. Tata’s strategy of expanding the range of options on its best-selling car in the segment, despite the occasional niggles, demonstrates a clear commitment to giving buyers variety and choice-a commendable effort from a homegrown manufacturer. The continuous evolution and innovation in their road-focused cars signal Tata's intention to dominate this space with offerings that cater to a wide array of customer preferences. Meanwhile, Mahindra's focus on SUVs reflects a deep understanding of the growing consumer appetite for rugged, off-road capable vehicles. By diving deeper into the world of SUVs, Mahindra is tapping into an expanding market, catering to adventurers and families alike who seek versatility in their vehicles. Both companies are on promising trajectories, adapting to global trends while staying rooted in the Indian market's unique needs. It’s refreshing to see Indian automakers not just holding their ground but actively competing in markets traditionally dominated by global giants. One can only hope that as Tata and Mahindra push the boundaries of design, features, and innovation, they also place a renewed focus on quality and reliability. These two brands, by expanding in different yet complementary directions, are setting the stage for Indian engineering to shine globally, and if they can boost their quality standards, the future of Indian automotives looks even brighter.
Tata is also ensuring that their service centres are making buck with issues built into the system. Milking the customer for all that he has got. Very nice. Mahindra is going for the best power in the segment approach. Maruti is going for the best mileage in the segment approach. Toyota is going for the best reliability in the segment approach. Hyundai and Kia are going for the best features in the segment approach. Tata seems to be going for the spaghetti on the wall approach. Might work, but is definitely messy.
JFYI Tata's service centre is worse in the industry. Skoda Kylaq/Nissan Magnite is gonna eat rest of the Indian brands for breakfast in compact SuV marathon, wait and watch.
One personal feedback for Motorinc First Videos: Can we pls have MORE sections with Images & Videos Inputs on the screen. It would be tremendous help when I HEAR Kartikeya say the car struggles on hard overtakes, maybe I can SEE it as well on a split screen. So that means we would enjoy more POV GoPro footage. Just a thought.Thanks.
Geniune Request, we want podcast on companies as well. Pocast on Tata, Mahindra, MS, Honda, Hyundai. In 2 wheeler, Hero, Honda, TVS, Bajaj, Yamaha, suzuki, RE etc. Podcast on 10 iconic bikes and cars according to you guys. Pocast on journey of 2 and 4 wheelers in India.
Just send Shumi now for a car review. This is now mandatory! I want to see how much humour does he add in his own reviews. By the way, when is the Destini First coming?
Mock Tata all you want, just know what is fearless also should be directed towards other brands as well. Maruti: Sigma, delta, alpha. Mahindra: AXL7, MX5, Pro, Non pro. Skoda: Signature, whose signature?
No idea what Kartikeya's issue with Nexon's seating ergonomics is.. Supremely comfortable car for very long rides. All other complaints are very real though..
The joke at 16:46 for those who didn't get it is the Tata Curve Not having cupholders , and the tata team replying saying India doesn't have a coffee culture so theres no cupholder
hey @motorinc please let Shumi out completely for the next tata review ...i just love Shumi's back bencher naughtiness and Kartikeya's sincere good boy nature juxtaposed against each other please completely unhinge them on the next tata review guys
It no longer takes an hour. Those days are over, such things happens rarely now with me. And if i see a huge line for cng then i just use petrol for a while instead. And 1 hr for cng is still less than waiting for ev to fully charge. Many times ev charging station are not functioning. And 10 cars using 1 charging station will take whole day compared to 10 cars waiting for the cng to be filled at one pump. No matter how you put it electric vehicle can't compete with cng when it comes to this.
@@veerakumaraandi2801 discipline is one word to describe but i wouldn't pick just that for an ev. I would say if your driving is predictable and regular for most of the time and you have the discipline and foresight to plan ahead then you can go for an ev. For example if you just go to work and come back home. But mine and my friends driving aren't like that. We have unplanned drives after work every second day. We go on a long drive often. So thats why none of us could ever purchase an ev. Also i personally would only purchase an ev if i have another alternate fuel vehicle so that i can take that for longer journey. I would recommend a person to start with an ev 2 wheeler first to get better at this. That is if they drive a 2 wheeler. I would do the same.
That's how tata placed their products. It's too confusing to choose and there are lot of build quality issues needed to be addressed. For a brand new car they shouldn't have build quality issues. But almost every tata products does post face-lift. I have seen many safari and harrier breakdowns than the older cars.
This Tata bashing is no longer funny, not because I'm a great fan of Tata, but if you see the price point and features provided by Tata as opposed to other manufacturers there's absolutely no comparison. So I would watch this channel more if they stop bashing Tata.
They bash Jawa, Ola and other companies / products too. The truth being spoken here is like a breath of fresh air compared to every reviewer chasing clout by only talking positives of Indian companies and not giving enough constructive criticism that will make these companies better.
This reminds me something that was discussed in Thisconnect different types of fuels episode. This I feel is a great thing that a manufacturer is willing to offer wide range of fuel options for similar cabin experience, and not just over focusing on only EVs. Multiple manufacturers doing this will be very exciting and we would be left with so many options to choose from!
MotorInc should understand, if they are going negative all time about the most selling car then,its like most their subscribers are fool . Shumi should understand this, this negativity against tata will effect motorinc in long term. It starts with me, it feel like he is exaggerating little bit. Other reviews of nexon dca from gagan,faisal, dds were all different what you guys qoute here. Can we put focus on the things those are first and its improving on the fronts. You cannot nagg them on the old things I don't know why???????????????????
Hey B, thanks for your feedback and concern. We may get it right, we may get it wrong - but we will always tell you Walmart we saw and felt. The rest is upto you. 🙏🏾👍🏽
While listening to the podcast, I realized that a large part of TATA Motors sales and reputation relies on the safety of its cars, its identity as an Indian brand, and the legacy of Ratan Tata. However, the company’s trust and performance could be at risk after Ratan Tata’s passing. To maintain its growth and customer loyalty, TATA must take its customers more seriously and actively address their needs going forward.
30:52 Even today EVs are comparatively "cleaner" than ICE vehicles. It's just that when people talk about EVs where they include everything - from pollution due to lithium mining to electricity generation through coal but don't extend the same courtesy to ICE vehicles. If we take this thinking further and include pollution due to oil refineries, damage to aquatic life & also the continuous transportation of crude oil and refined petroleum from their sources to our neighborhood petrol pump, then EVs still end up polluting less.
True, oil production itself is pegged at ~500g/Litre of fuel produced (after removing non fuel products like lubricants and plastics) A car which is polluting 150g/km from tailpipe and getting 10kmpl already pollute 50g before fuel reached the tank So total emissions of ICE in this case would be 200g/km Electricity maps is a goo resource for grid emissions, which puts India at 600g/kWh Nexon ev can easily get 120Wh/km which is ~72g/km emissions, less than 1/3rd of ICE model
It's awesome seeing Karthik and Shumi as absolute men of culture with their Back to the Future and Whitney Houston jokes. If I crack a joke like that with my friends, they'll look at me funny. Anyway, great job, guys.
Shumi. Indias electricity generation from coal was 75% in 2021. It became 73% in 2022. 70% in 2023. Expected to go down to 50% in 2030. Indias installed capacity of coal has now dropped below 50% and is expected to fall below 30% by 2030.
25:24 beautiful suggestion..i don't know if any other car manufacturer has done this already. A strong hybrid that gives you that instant power and torque when needed, except in this case it's a hybrid of petrol and cng , and not petrol and electric. A good idea to implement
How is it compair to brezza cng in as whole package? I know you recommend test drive. But still you guyz have larger database to fall on to. Which would be your pick?
Hi, bro I went to visit honda showroom to check out Amaze, They said they were not selling diesel version anymore as the govt is expected to release BS7 norms which will ban/tax the sale of new diesel cars etc, So I started looking at a 2nd hand one and I found one which is a 2021 made, Now should i got for it? What if the govt announces ban on diesel vehicles and forces us to decomisson the vehicle? Am from hyderabad btw
38:20 The issue what you faced is something very similar I had to live with Fiat Linea 1.3MJD. The issue in my car was with EGR valve. If you drive at higher rpm and then slow down and try to pick up speed again, the throttle just wouldn't respond at all. The car had to be shut down and started again. One major irritant in fiat was that you had to turn the key all the way to start it again and it hairy situation it would create panic. This became a near-death situation when overtaking a truck and bus on the Highway and car stopped responding with oncoming vehicle on opp side. Thankfully I was able to swerve back in between two vehicles just in the nick of time. After numerous visits to (independent) Fiat Service, I just decided to unplug the EGR and drive with check engine light on. It went to service multiple times, EGR was cleaned and even replaced (I was shown an old EGR which was apparently from my car). The issue was escalated to Fiat then. It was nearly 3 years after that, that the company took the car and kept it for two weeks, finally reprogrammed ECU to not operate EGR (as I was told). Worked flawlessly after that for the next 5 years and now its with my neighbour next door and still working fine. I don't know if Turbo petrol/CNG cars have EGR too, but I feel it could be the same /similar issue.
@@motorinc i bought it January 2024, since then I faced the issue 4 times, "rpm won't go beyond 2k" will be solved within first engine restart and "engine warning" will be gone off after third engine restart. At first 2 times I panicked and contacted the service team, but no use, now I get used to it. Atleast I am proud that I found a solution on my own..
For highway performance, I guess the reason it doesn't switch to petrol automatically compared to Chetak is because EVs are more efficient in terms of cost and range. Whereas petrol is less efficient than CNG. There are people who would want to cruise at 90-100kmph on CNG rather than the car switch to petrol.
Interesting vehicle. Full lux nexon that has a turbo petrol and usable boot that also has cng. I wonder who the target is, seems like a split personality- person that wants a spirited vehicle and saves money on CNG, especially when you factor in peak time CNG station lines. Those lines also open up the question of the similarly priced 45 ev. Especially if the pure CNG range means either you fill every day or two or run pure petrol somewhere. Also schumi got the jokes out and how. Kudos to Kartik for remembering what he wanted to say on the review rather than ROFLing, that’s some serious poker face
EV 45 is actually cheaper by 80k in OTR Mumbai prices Fearless EV45 : 15.9L Fearless CNG : 16.7L One can opt for empowered 45 for 30k more and still get vent seats and other goodies
I have a slightly off topic but relevant to the conversation that happened question, as kartikay said he faced a problem while climbing up a highway with full pedal down and had to shift down, I sometimes face that issue (I am a new driver so sometimes end up at a higher gear) how do I downshift on a climbing slope confidently and without the car jerking, please help.
Its feels nostalgic this Tata reviews from this channel , they feel the same as the JLR reviews from old Top Gear . may be when Mr Tata bought them , this issue with electric stuff was added free.
@@motorinc I would mostly start the car on weekends but if I would do some long ride or stuff I would travel around gujarat and that's almost 800 900 kms and yeah with family
I was just thinking about the AC button(Nitrous as we call it) in our old Lord Alto when Karthikeya was talking about toggling to petrol for higher performance:D
I was recently in a friend's Tigor Petrol AMT, and he told me something that didn't seem right. He said whenever the car stops at a signal or at an incline, he can't keep it in the Drive mode, has to switch to Neutral, and engage the parking brake so that the car doesn't roll back. He said if he keeps the gear in Drive mode when the vehicle is not moving, it will damage the mechanism when he accelerates to get the car moving. Is this true?
Its the same principle as a manual. If you keep the clutch engaged at a traffic stop, eventually the springs will give out and you'll need to replace the clutch. In an AMT, similar thing happens plus the hydraulic mechanism for the clutch will also fail earlier than usual. Hence it is advised to shift into N
I forgot Will the new platform ATLAS will be brought to Nexon ? I don't think they have done cng on that platform so i guess it will be little longer than anyone is expecting it in the Curvv? Does yhe curvv also has the same problem with steering/driver seat position? Will there be motorinc first of the daytona 660 or the suzuki 8r? If not will you please do one...
I remember 4 years back when I bought my first economy hatch and went for a Celerio Petrol because the celerio CNG did not have automatic. Things have come so far now, seems good. But I really wish our Indian OEM's would get serious about electrics. I had hoped then that by 2025 we would have a hatch with 300km real-world range at 10L price point. But does not seem like that's going to happen any soon. In fact the prices have increased so much the same car that I bought for 6Lacs now sells for 8Lacs 4 years later. Nevertheless I'm holding onto my econobox for few more years. But it's getting beat bad by great Maharashtra roads...
some sports/tuner cars have an overboost button where for say 5 seconds the turbo dumps its full boost giving car its full power before engine blows tata can use a similar function. assigning a button that will allow us to use full 120 hp petrol mode for 10 to 15 seconds
Quick question, if we had a 100bhp petrol, would you still feel same at high speed ? What this looks like to me that 100bhp powerband reaches it's peak somewhere around 100km/hr, torque coming in low revs can also explain way the powerband is tuned that way
Sir, Tata keep launching some vehicles once in every 2 months. And this keeps them remain in news forever. This may hamper some good cars from keeping in buzz. Tata nexon- ice, ev, cng, curve- ice, ev - all are 75% similar cars
Hey Shumi.. I always like your thoughts on bike reviews.. I don't know what's goes wrong when you review tata cars.. you shouldn't be more critical it dont make videos that to the point.. i would like videos to be more to the point.. good points bad points.... keep it simple
Unrelated to the Nexon iCNG, as the days go by and more models are revealed by manufacturers, i feel we have fewer and fewer 4 cylinder NA engines. Which is the best one remaining?
If schumi is made the roads and transport minister, first thing he would do is to get the car manufacturers simplify their car variant names. Road quality and toll prices could be take the back seats but Variant name simplification is the first thing on his list.
This is the car that I didn’t hear about any quality issues (except 1 where it just died). Am I hearing it rite ? Cuz the previous curvv motor inc was a roast video when it came to quality, fit and finish, engine issues
*Chapters*
00:00 Nexon With CNG
03:03 Same Issues as Before
05:05 Twin Tank Design
08:56 Spare Wheels & Packaging
09:35 Premium
10:45 CNG Safety
12:06 Cabin & Equipment
14:33 Driving the Nexon CNG
19:00 Range
21:28 Petrol vs CNG
23:18 Suspension
24:37 Highway Performance
30:35 CNG vs Electric
34:47 vs Maruti Suzuki Brezza
36:30 Niggles & Glitches
39:52 Reliability Notes
42:04 Quick Summary
46:34 Tata Curvv CNG
47:56 Up Next
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Petition to send Shumi for the next Tata review.
We NEED this!
We’d love it too!
Tata: * Invites Shumi for a review *
Shumi: So you've chosen death
You've got my vote
+1
🙋♂ I agree!
I love how shumi is on fire today!! just like the EVs
🤣
💀
😬😬😬
😮brooooooo
Bruh 💀
I've been driving my Tata Tiago iCNG 2022 model for over 30,000 kilometers now. In the city, I'm getting around 20-21 kilometers per kilogram on CNG, and on the highway, with a relaxed driving style, I'm getting around 27-28 kilometers per kilogram. I must say, if you can find a good service center for your Tata vehicle, it's a super affordable and reliable car to maintain.
Hey Kaustubh! Super happy to hear about your little Tata! Wish you more awesome travels with it.
At this point, Tata should just fire back at Shumi by launching the Tata Nexon TC-GDi Hy-CNG with 7 different variants
And he gets to review it!
@@motorincthat too😂
Then there will be a more than 30 variants 😮 even the showroom will start to feel like stockyard 😂
I think Motorinc needs to compile all of Shumi’s puns and one-liners and release a book titled “Shumi’s Pun Shop”.
Also, I rate the summary two batlas.
Two batlas! 😯 Two generous.
I dig it!
The jokes aside, It is indeed fascinating to see how two of India's automotive giants, Tata and Mahindra, are carving distinct paths in the industry, playing to their strengths and consumer demands. Tata’s strategy of expanding the range of options on its best-selling car in the segment, despite the occasional niggles, demonstrates a clear commitment to giving buyers variety and choice-a commendable effort from a homegrown manufacturer. The continuous evolution and innovation in their road-focused cars signal Tata's intention to dominate this space with offerings that cater to a wide array of customer preferences.
Meanwhile, Mahindra's focus on SUVs reflects a deep understanding of the growing consumer appetite for rugged, off-road capable vehicles. By diving deeper into the world of SUVs, Mahindra is tapping into an expanding market, catering to adventurers and families alike who seek versatility in their vehicles. Both companies are on promising trajectories, adapting to global trends while staying rooted in the Indian market's unique needs.
It’s refreshing to see Indian automakers not just holding their ground but actively competing in markets traditionally dominated by global giants. One can only hope that as Tata and Mahindra push the boundaries of design, features, and innovation, they also place a renewed focus on quality and reliability. These two brands, by expanding in different yet complementary directions, are setting the stage for Indian engineering to shine globally, and if they can boost their quality standards, the future of Indian automotives looks even brighter.
That's certainly a very optimistic purview of things @yadhunayt! We'd like this to happen too 🤞
Tata is also ensuring that their service centres are making buck with issues built into the system. Milking the customer for all that he has got. Very nice.
Mahindra is going for the best power in the segment approach.
Maruti is going for the best mileage in the segment approach.
Toyota is going for the best reliability in the segment approach.
Hyundai and Kia are going for the best features in the segment approach.
Tata seems to be going for the spaghetti on the wall approach. Might work, but is definitely messy.
Try using AI's "summary" feature.
JFYI Tata's service centre is worse in the industry. Skoda Kylaq/Nissan Magnite is gonna eat rest of the Indian brands for breakfast in compact SuV marathon, wait and watch.
16:54 🙅♂️ Starbucks 😂😂
I'm so glad you made this comment.
One personal feedback for Motorinc First Videos:
Can we pls have MORE sections with Images & Videos Inputs on the screen. It would be tremendous help when I HEAR Kartikeya say the car struggles on hard overtakes, maybe I can SEE it as well on a split screen. So that means we would enjoy more POV GoPro footage.
Just a thought.Thanks.
Thanks AC for the suggestion!
Geniune Request, we want podcast on companies as well.
Pocast on Tata, Mahindra, MS, Honda, Hyundai.
In 2 wheeler, Hero, Honda, TVS, Bajaj, Yamaha, suzuki, RE etc.
Podcast on 10 iconic bikes and cars according to you guys.
Pocast on journey of 2 and 4 wheelers in India.
And genuinely filed! Thanks again Vikas!
So just brands in India, but two seperate episodes for two and four wheeler... I vote for this as well☝️ @motorinc
Thanks guys
Your videos make household chores less painful
Also 16:45
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hola KP! How goes?
Also, what chores you got on the list today?
@@motorinc hola
The usual dusting brooming sweeping and mopping
Sounds awesome! Have fun!😄
12:52 Karthik being done😂 has to be the most funny thing.
😜
Just send Shumi now for a car review. This is now mandatory! I want to see how much humour does he add in his own reviews. By the way, when is the Destini First coming?
That’d be awesome!
@@motorincE class would be a great car for starting
Mock Tata all you want, just know what is fearless also should be directed towards other brands as well. Maruti: Sigma, delta, alpha. Mahindra: AXL7, MX5, Pro, Non pro. Skoda: Signature, whose signature?
Well done!!
No idea what Kartikeya's issue with Nexon's seating ergonomics is.. Supremely comfortable car for very long rides.
All other complaints are very real though..
Hey DJ, just compare it next time with - say Brezza/Sonet. Let us know what you think. Thanks.
@@motorincI have compared it with a Venue. While it does feel different, I didn't notice any discomfort.
@@motorinc I also did not find a difference between Nexon, Sonet and Brezza's driving position. Like DJ said, its extremely comfortable
The Nexon seat is off centre. That makes it fundamentally flawed. If its comfortable for you, then well and good.
Lol he's salty, he was proven wrong 7 years ago, and same thing will happen in coming years, hardly people were buying brezza when he recommended 😅
The joke at 16:46 for those who didn't get it is the Tata Curve Not having cupholders , and the tata team replying saying India doesn't have a coffee culture so theres no cupholder
Thanks V!
16:54 🙅♂️... they must stop selling coffees then😂
😁
Bro 😂
And shumi is back with turbocharged gaslighting direct interaction. 😁
Hahahaha!
16:44 CNG could also stand for Coffee Needed to Get going ☕ ⭐
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But is there space to keep the said coffee cup @@motorinc?😂
hey @motorinc please let Shumi out completely for the next tata review ...i just love Shumi's back bencher naughtiness and Kartikeya's sincere good boy nature juxtaposed against each other please completely unhinge them on the next tata review guys
Tata’s all his!
The same people who complain about EV charging times on the Highway have no problem lining up for an hour or more to get CNG.
It no longer takes an hour. Those days are over, such things happens rarely now with me. And if i see a huge line for cng then i just use petrol for a while instead. And 1 hr for cng is still less than waiting for ev to fully charge. Many times ev charging station are not functioning. And 10 cars using 1 charging station will take whole day compared to 10 cars waiting for the cng to be filled at one pump. No matter how you put it electric vehicle can't compete with cng when it comes to this.
Thanks for having a helpful discussion guys! 👍🏽
No point comparing apples and oranges! To own a EV is to realise you must get very disciplined! For that you get great driving pleasure and power!
@@veerakumaraandi2801 discipline is one word to describe but i wouldn't pick just that for an ev. I would say if your driving is predictable and regular for most of the time and you have the discipline and foresight to plan ahead then you can go for an ev. For example if you just go to work and come back home. But mine and my friends driving aren't like that. We have unplanned drives after work every second day. We go on a long drive often. So thats why none of us could ever purchase an ev. Also i personally would only purchase an ev if i have another alternate fuel vehicle so that i can take that for longer journey. I would recommend a person to start with an ev 2 wheeler first to get better at this. That is if they drive a 2 wheeler. I would do the same.
6:21 "an engineer's dream is a mechanic's nightmare" 😂😂
😆
A designer's dream is an engineer's nightmare 😊😅
It felt like unbiased journalism now feels bullying, more of personal vendetta.
That's how tata placed their products. It's too confusing to choose and there are lot of build quality issues needed to be addressed. For a brand new car they shouldn't have build quality issues. But almost every tata products does post face-lift. I have seen many safari and harrier breakdowns than the older cars.
No interest in CNG whatsoever but still jumped into the video right away just to listen to u guys.... weekend drives with u guys talking 😇...bliss..
Have a good one!
Karthik & Shumi Seriously Reviewing ❌
Karthik Giggling While Shumi Roasting ✅
This Tata bashing is no longer funny, not because I'm a great fan of Tata, but if you see the price point and features provided by Tata as opposed to other manufacturers there's absolutely no comparison.
So I would watch this channel more if they stop bashing Tata.
Thanks for the feedback P.
They bash Jawa, Ola and other companies / products too. The truth being spoken here is like a breath of fresh air compared to every reviewer chasing clout by only talking positives of Indian companies and not giving enough constructive criticism that will make these companies better.
This reminds me something that was discussed in Thisconnect different types of fuels episode. This I feel is a great thing that a manufacturer is willing to offer wide range of fuel options for similar cabin experience, and not just over focusing on only EVs. Multiple manufacturers doing this will be very exciting and we would be left with so many options to choose from!
I am addicted to this series. Love you guys!!
Hey A! Right back at you - ❤️!
MotorInc should understand, if they are going negative all time about the most selling car then,its like most their subscribers are fool . Shumi should understand this, this negativity against tata will effect motorinc in long term.
It starts with me, it feel like he is exaggerating little bit.
Other reviews of nexon dca from gagan,faisal, dds were all different what you guys qoute here.
Can we put focus on the things those are first and its improving on the fronts. You cannot nagg them on the old things I don't know why???????????????????
Hey B, thanks for your feedback and concern. We may get it right, we may get it wrong - but we will always tell you Walmart we saw and felt. The rest is upto you. 🙏🏾👍🏽
Just a correction on the electricity part. India has in recent years significantly reduced its coal dependency now it howers around 50 odd percentage.
While listening to the podcast, I realized that a large part of TATA Motors sales and reputation relies on the safety of its cars, its identity as an Indian brand, and the legacy of Ratan Tata. However, the company’s trust and performance could be at risk after Ratan Tata’s passing. To maintain its growth and customer loyalty, TATA must take its customers more seriously and actively address their needs going forward.
30:52 Even today EVs are comparatively "cleaner" than ICE vehicles. It's just that when people talk about EVs where they include everything - from pollution due to lithium mining to electricity generation through coal but don't extend the same courtesy to ICE vehicles. If we take this thinking further and include pollution due to oil refineries, damage to aquatic life & also the continuous transportation of crude oil and refined petroleum from their sources to our neighborhood petrol pump, then EVs still end up polluting less.
Thanks DSS for your take. We want better options. Whatever they may be.
True, oil production itself is pegged at ~500g/Litre of fuel produced (after removing non fuel products like lubricants and plastics)
A car which is polluting 150g/km from tailpipe and getting 10kmpl already pollute 50g before fuel reached the tank
So total emissions of ICE in this case would be 200g/km
Electricity maps is a goo resource for grid emissions, which puts India at 600g/kWh
Nexon ev can easily get 120Wh/km which is ~72g/km emissions, less than 1/3rd of ICE model
It's awesome seeing Karthik and Shumi as absolute men of culture with their Back to the Future and Whitney Houston jokes. If I crack a joke like that with my friends, they'll look at me funny. Anyway, great job, guys.
I love the idea of TATA Curv i-cng with cng cylinders mounted on the back roof like flux capacitors!
😃
Shumi. Indias electricity generation from coal was 75% in 2021. It became 73% in 2022. 70% in 2023. Expected to go down to 50% in 2030. Indias installed capacity of coal has now dropped below 50% and is expected to fall below 30% by 2030.
Also ICE engine has an efficiency of 20%. A coal power plant is easily above 80%. So that way also, EV is better
25:24 beautiful suggestion..i don't know if any other car manufacturer has done this already. A strong hybrid that gives you that instant power and torque when needed, except in this case it's a hybrid of petrol and cng , and not petrol and electric. A good idea to implement
Heya NP, that is the strong hybrid system. 👍🏽
@@motorinc ha.. Yeah.. It was a brain fade moment on my part..😅. Will correct it
If i use nexon cng on petrol did i will get 118 hp of petrol or only 100 hp as cng?
118hp!
@@motorinc thanks i booked smart plus last month you cleared biggest doubt ✌🏻
How is it compair to brezza cng in as whole package? I know you recommend test drive. But still you guyz have larger database to fall on to. Which would be your pick?
As a machine it will be a more hassle free pick.
@@motorinc thank you so much
the intro alone deserves a like. and the fumble made me take it back. lol
😄 All good!
Great as always, I love the way Shumi Sir reacts sarcastically .
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How it's compared to my honda city 2019 with cng. Does it worth upgrade? I am not over function kind of person.
Hi, bro I went to visit honda showroom to check out Amaze, They said they were not selling diesel version anymore as the govt is expected to release BS7 norms which will ban/tax the sale of new diesel cars etc, So I started looking at a 2nd hand one and I found one which is a 2021 made, Now should i got for it? What if the govt announces ban on diesel vehicles and forces us to decomisson the vehicle? Am from hyderabad btw
28:21 oh man! Brings back memories!
38:20 The issue what you faced is something very similar I had to live with Fiat Linea 1.3MJD. The issue in my car was with EGR valve. If you drive at higher rpm and then slow down and try to pick up speed again, the throttle just wouldn't respond at all. The car had to be shut down and started again. One major irritant in fiat was that you had to turn the key all the way to start it again and it hairy situation it would create panic. This became a near-death situation when overtaking a truck and bus on the Highway and car stopped responding with oncoming vehicle on opp side. Thankfully I was able to swerve back in between two vehicles just in the nick of time. After numerous visits to (independent) Fiat Service, I just decided to unplug the EGR and drive with check engine light on. It went to service multiple times, EGR was cleaned and even replaced (I was shown an old EGR which was apparently from my car). The issue was escalated to Fiat then. It was nearly 3 years after that, that the company took the car and kept it for two weeks, finally reprogrammed ECU to not operate EGR (as I was told). Worked flawlessly after that for the next 5 years and now its with my neighbour next door and still working fine. I don't know if Turbo petrol/CNG cars have EGR too, but I feel it could be the same /similar issue.
So the 6 airbags will only fire if backseat passengers are belted, right?
Seat belts are a prerequisite - that’s up front.
As a Tata Punch owner, I experience same issues and solutions you guys mentioned in 37:00-40:00
Oh shucks! Sorry to hear that. We thought the Punch is better finished. Could you tell us how long you have had it?
@@motorinc i bought it January 2024, since then I faced the issue 4 times, "rpm won't go beyond 2k" will be solved within first engine restart and "engine warning" will be gone off after third engine restart.
At first 2 times I panicked and contacted the service team, but no use, now I get used to it. Atleast I am proud that I found a solution on my own..
16:55 feel like getting a coffee, might have to hold it while i’m driving🙅♂️
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What’s the best commuter bike in your opinion !?
For highway performance, I guess the reason it doesn't switch to petrol automatically compared to Chetak is because EVs are more efficient in terms of cost and range. Whereas petrol is less efficient than CNG. There are people who would want to cruise at 90-100kmph on CNG rather than the car switch to petrol.
Perfect summary. So much humor and sarcasm. Next Tata launch should definitely be covered by Shumi xD
Agreed!
Interesting vehicle. Full lux nexon that has a turbo petrol and usable boot that also has cng. I wonder who the target is, seems like a split personality- person that wants a spirited vehicle and saves money on CNG, especially when you factor in peak time CNG station lines.
Those lines also open up the question of the similarly priced 45 ev. Especially if the pure CNG range means either you fill every day or two or run pure petrol somewhere.
Also schumi got the jokes out and how. Kudos to Kartik for remembering what he wanted to say on the review rather than ROFLing, that’s some serious poker face
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EV 45 is actually cheaper by 80k in OTR Mumbai prices
Fearless EV45 : 15.9L
Fearless CNG : 16.7L
One can opt for empowered 45 for 30k more and still get vent seats and other goodies
Every point is explained in detail. As always a fun review. The best part was When there is a CNG leak just open the sunroof 😂
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Why does the fuel filler cap says “PETROL”? If its a CNG car, it should say CNG, right? Or is it something I am unfamiliar with!!!
There’s a nozzle to the left also a that’s for CNG
15:26 not the peak power and torque figures though. So the curves are better?
I like the way Shumi tell Bengaluru than Bangalore,,,
Share some fascinating things about our city
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25:03 reminds me of my friend who reversed the A/C button on his Zen (facelift) and replaced the 'A/C' sticker with 'Boost' 😂
Genius! And wow, lotsa inputs here MS! Thanks!
I have a slightly off topic but relevant to the conversation that happened question, as kartikay said he faced a problem while climbing up a highway with full pedal down and had to shift down, I sometimes face that issue (I am a new driver so sometimes end up at a higher gear) how do I downshift on a climbing slope confidently and without the car jerking, please help.
EV is an automatic as well compared to manual iCNG
Hi Kartik,
Which is the most affordable sports car in India??
I20 N Line
Just saw the CUBE. it's totally futuristic. Id totally buy 1, even tho I don't like electric
Shumi and Tata motorinc firsts are the best combos 😂
But how to decide beforehand? Before test drive?
You can’t. Have to test drive.
Its feels nostalgic this Tata reviews from this channel , they feel the same as the JLR reviews from old Top Gear .
may be when Mr Tata bought them , this issue with electric stuff was added free.
That hurts!! True. But it hurts. 😖
Why do CNGs miss on Cruise Control feature, especially on all the Tata cars?
What about the mileage coz I'm but confused which cng car to buy
Please let us know what your usage is?
@@motorinc I would mostly start the car on weekends but if I would do some long ride or stuff I would travel around gujarat and that's almost 800 900 kms and yeah with family
Motorinc is the only channel where I hit LIKE even before the intro music 🎉🎉🎉
Morning AI! Have a good one.
If Tata manages to make a performance variant of their CNG vehicles, they should name it the 'Batla Racer'
I was just thinking about the AC button(Nitrous as we call it) in our old Lord Alto when Karthikeya was talking about toggling to petrol for higher performance:D
Heya MD! Good to know that!
Can you please review the Citroen C3 automatic on MotorInc?
Request noted @ArjunKarandur
First one here to drop here. Yaay. Love you folks at MotorInc.
Morning Rajat! Thanks so much for spending time with us! ❤️
39:00 Bro as a Tata owner
Turn off wait 5 min
Turn on
All Issues Gone Is a Genuine Thing
Yezdi 350 adventure review it, it is the only one in that segment currently
Thanks SW for the reco!
I was recently in a friend's Tigor Petrol AMT, and he told me something that didn't seem right. He said whenever the car stops at a signal or at an incline, he can't keep it in the Drive mode, has to switch to Neutral, and engage the parking brake so that the car doesn't roll back. He said if he keeps the gear in Drive mode when the vehicle is not moving, it will damage the mechanism when he accelerates to get the car moving. Is this true?
Its the same principle as a manual. If you keep the clutch engaged at a traffic stop, eventually the springs will give out and you'll need to replace the clutch. In an AMT, similar thing happens plus the hydraulic mechanism for the clutch will also fail earlier than usual. Hence it is advised to shift into N
Great video. It is true. ECM modules have a log for ignition cycles since last flag. Sometimes they clear out as a reset procedure.
Thanks TFE!
I forgot
Will the new platform ATLAS will be brought to Nexon ? I don't think they have done cng on that platform so i guess it will be little longer than anyone is expecting it in the Curvv?
Does yhe curvv also has the same problem with steering/driver seat position?
Will there be motorinc first of the daytona 660 or the suzuki 8r?
If not will you please do one...
Thanks SP for the suggestions. Atlas’ chassis component is from the Nexon anyways.
Nexon your Your New War Machine , The Tank - Batla Full House
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Shumi in Tata motorinc first is just wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than Tata Products being showcased at Motorinc channel.
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29:05 at the end of the year or moterinc's anniversary we need a compilation of all of shumi's amazing jokes!
Totally doable!
I remember 4 years back when I bought my first economy hatch and went for a Celerio Petrol because the celerio CNG did not have automatic. Things have come so far now, seems good. But I really wish our Indian OEM's would get serious about electrics. I had hoped then that by 2025 we would have a hatch with 300km real-world range at 10L price point. But does not seem like that's going to happen any soon. In fact the prices have increased so much the same car that I bought for 6Lacs now sells for 8Lacs 4 years later. Nevertheless I'm holding onto my econobox for few more years. But it's getting beat bad by great Maharashtra roads...
Heya V! Excellent decision to hold onto it. Make the most of it. The dust will settle a bit in a couple of years. Better time to pick the next.
Is it possible to have cuboid shaped CNG tanks? That would have more capacity consuming similar space in the boot.
Yes. But edges become stress points/hot spots. Hence round/ed shapes are used for tanks.
When MIL glowing in a brand new car is the " not bad " standard.
Could you explain please?
Height 6'3". Using Suzuki Zeus 125. Planning to buy new bike with
You guys made Diwali cleaning easier 👍👍👍
Hey guys, aren’t you going to review the Kia EV9 as well?? Because it did launched with the carnival the same day tho..
I want just a reel of shumi's reaction on The newly launched N125, thats it, It does even have to be a vocal one
We can’t wait too!
@@motorinc this channel bot is coded well
Nice coverage with Shumi 's sarcasm.
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some sports/tuner cars have an overboost button where for say 5 seconds the turbo dumps its full boost giving car its full power before engine blows
tata can use a similar function. assigning a button that will allow us to use full 120 hp petrol mode for 10 to 15 seconds
Quick question, if we had a 100bhp petrol, would you still feel same at high speed ? What this looks like to me that 100bhp powerband reaches it's peak somewhere around 100km/hr, torque coming in low revs can also explain way the powerband is tuned that way
That is why it performs the way it does. Different fuels have different properties.
Ohh yes, world renowned it is !! Kathik ❤
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Can’t wait for Nexon TCGDI Hybrid CNG review from MotorInc 6:29
Shumi will review it!
Sir, Tata keep launching some vehicles once in every 2 months. And this keeps them remain in news forever. This may hamper some good cars from keeping in buzz. Tata nexon- ice, ev, cng, curve- ice, ev - all are 75% similar cars
Yessah! That’s true.
Hey Shumi.. I always like your thoughts on bike reviews.. I don't know what's goes wrong when you review tata cars.. you shouldn't be more critical it dont make videos that to the point.. i would like videos to be more to the point.. good points bad points.... keep it simple
Thanks M for your feedback!
45:37 3rd time doing the nexon and no review for brezza still? Apart from those few shots. Why?
Please stay tuned!
Unrelated to the Nexon iCNG, as the days go by and more models are revealed by manufacturers, i feel we have fewer and fewer 4 cylinder NA engines. Which is the best one remaining?
Yep! Cost saving…
The biggest issue with CNG cars, is trip to CNG station is painful. With powerful car & single ECU these cars will spend more time in CNG line.
That’s a pain point for sure. But not everywhere - it varies.
Who cares about nexon cng !
These guys are just fantastic 😂😂😂😂
Thanks MS for the shoutout!
If schumi is made the roads and transport minister, first thing he would do is to get the car manufacturers simplify their car variant names. Road quality and toll prices could be take the back seats but Variant name simplification is the first thing on his list.
Bikes on toll roads, maybe?
Yes and the road quality actually reflecting the toll amount taken @@motorinc
@@motorinc that wouldn't be great idea considering the road etiquettes of common Indian bikers.
We want shumi sir to review a tata car next time!!!! It'll be hilarious🤣🤣
So do we!
This is the car that I didn’t hear about any quality issues (except 1 where it just died). Am I hearing it rite ? Cuz the previous curvv motor inc was a roast video when it came to quality, fit and finish, engine issues
Heya SrK, aside from the one issue - everything else was fine. That is correct.
Shumi is absolutely right, Tata has seriously messed up on variants!! Its confusing! TC-GDi hybrid iCNG 😅😅😅😅
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