after your "epic trail with the e-golf " i understand that , in this moment with the actual price , is a good car for almost people : who likes do trips under 400 /450 km x day , with no hurry , or to use in the normal life to go work or moves the city . thanks from the south , below the pirynees
I have my e-Golf now for about two months (its a lease car from 2018, it was from a former coworker of mine first). It’s an excellent car for daily commutes and sometimes for larger trips. The cold, however, impacts the cars range dramatically. It’s a quite bad when temperatures go under 2 degrees Celsius. However, I love it and for 90% of the time it’s more than capable.
Below some temperature, the 2 kW heat pump is not enough to heat the car, it also uses the conventional heater then. This is why the consumption is higher than at +5°C.
Well, air density increases with decrease in temperature, which of course means more wind resistance. Also a lot of this trip was done on wet roads, which means increase rolling resistance. But good info on the heat pump. I didn't know that, so thank you for that 😊
My Renault Zoe Q90 (40kwh Battery with 43/38 kW AC Charger) have an air cooling system. My 1000Km Trip from Essen in Germany to Paris and Back have never Overhead Problems. The Charging Speedcurve was everytime of the Maximum !
Hi Bjørn, are you ever likely to test the 35.8kWh e-Golf again but in milder weather conditions? It would be interesting for everyone who lives further south.
By the way, you don't stop wind turbines if the demand is low, at least not in Sweden, you regulate by reducing hydro, since the ideal way to save money in the scandinavian energy system is to keep water in the reservoirs for as long as possible in the winter.
@@magic1010d No it isn't, not in Sweden, wind turbines has been around here for a long time, so a lot of the turbines don't have remote control. However 50% of Swedens energy production comes from hydro, and a hydro turbine can go from off to full power in less than 60 seconds, so in Sweden hydro is what's regulated.
was looking in your sheets with the results, and saw the insane slow VW Golf. Had to find this video and see it again. Now in the end of 2022, these charging speeds are so low, our phones ´nearly´ charge faster. xD
I cant wait for my VW e-Golf. This 1000 km challenge shows i'll easily be able to do all my driving in the Netherlands. My longest rides will always be below 400 km a day, and thats only occasionally. With Fastned and many chargers at destination, it'll be easy.
Ik ga ieder jaar op winter sport 1000km en zomers op vakantie ook wel eens met auto. Plus regelmatig door het land voor werk. Plus ik woon in een straat met beperkte plaatsen en sowieso geen parkeer plek voor de deur. Moet er weer een paal gezet worden in de straat weer een parkeer plek weg. En op de zaak is er ook geen paal. Plus vind deze golf aardig prijzig voor wat die kan.. lange laad tijd en die accu die te heet wordt. Plus 727 km in 11u! Not good.
Krijg je hem nog in 2019? Zou lekker zijn. Mijne komt binnen 2 weken. Enorm veel zin in als ik dit allemaal zie. Duitse degelijkheid met elektromotor. Heb wel een laadpaal mee gefinancierd in mijn leasebedrag zodat ik thuis kan laden
@@jdnrotterdam2150 dan is de e-Golf niet de juiste EV voor jou. Laadpalen op (of in de buurt van) werk en thuis kan je gewoon aanvragen en Allego en de gemeente regelen dat. Voor die 2x per jaar zou je ook een auto kunnen huren. En ik denk dat de komende VW ID.3 wel eens een winnaar kan zijn. Scherpe prijzen, goed bereik en 100+ kW snelladen.
Took me two days to get to Tijuana from Santa Cruz on Hwy 101 in y 2016 eGolf, ~ 25mph. The first stint was driven around 65 mph through hills. After the second stint, the car wouldn't CCS charge... maybe a station fluke, but I later experienced any driving over about ~ 55 mph prevented a subsequent CCS charge, making my stops 3hr+.
Great video. My only pet peeve is that all of the other EVs were tested at temperatures well above freezing, all we all know what the minus temps will do to your battery. Thumbs up for driving 1000km in all of those EVs.
Wow, 2 years already. So far, still loving my e-Golf, although the "rapid gate" sucks a bit. I'm planning to do a 900 km trip from 🇳🇱->🇨🇭 . Will be a long day
Rapidgating even in the winter... I can understand why VW would make an early EV without an active cooling system, but not why Nissan after more than a decade of making the Leaf still doesn’t have it... Very interesting video though, it seems that the increased consumption in the cold really more than offset any benefit from better passive cooling.
But that works only in countries where you have winter a few months in the year. What about in countries that don't? In any case, I now know that the VW e-golf does not have a cooling system for it's batteries similar to ionic, and Leaf. Does one need to be buy a premium EV to get the cooling feature? Seems so, and will be another decision I will have to weigh when choosing my EV for next year.
2nd generation Leaf is only a refresh of the first generation, most of the components under the skin are still the same, so it is unfortunately still passively cooled. A positive side effect though is that the newer battery packs are backwards compatible with 1st gen Leafs.
@@smr32061 Ioniq 28 at least has forced air cooling, so you can run cabin AC on high while charging and it will still provide pretty decent cooling to the battery, much batter than nothing. Leaf and eGolf have no battery cooling at all.
@@ashton9699 Exactly. And that’s despite the fact that Nissan do appear to have recognised the need for cooling in the eNV-200, which has similar air cooling for the battery. But apparently it’s not needed for the Leaf 🙄
Having had the Kona only charge properly when the batteries are WARM enough, not too cold, I think the problem was that the batteries were too cold in the e-Golf. For instance I charged on Ionity after a gentle drive and got 45kW. I unplugged after 15 minutes, then plugged in again and got 76kW! During the day when it was warmer, you got higher charging rates. Needs to be warm, not cold, but not hot :)
The way to get a better result with an e-Golf. is to drive in cold temps like this, or perhaps 5C, and drive slower, so passive cooling still takes hold, but heat accumulates slower. That would strike a better balance, and net a faster overall result. 100 km/hr would be faster in the long run. Shorter charge stops (~20 minutes) will help too. He needed to use OBD11 to keep an eye on it. I've had one for 5 years, and it won't get over 35C if you push it less hard when it's around freezing. It won't rapid-gate at those temps.
There's a paper mill in Varberg, by the way. They can give off a characteristic smell under some circumstances. In the past they let smelly gases straight out, these days they usually burn it in an afterburner (actually called that) to reduce the inconvenience to the surroundings. In some circumstances these systems don't work though, and a sort of umami smell but more unpleasant escapes. It's not dangerous, but it smells bad. Paper mill workers often say that "it smells like money".
I miss my e-golf some one ran into me and it might be a write off but I would confirm that the best time to do long trips is around 10-15c it’s no ac and no heat and right after taking winter tires off
Golf balls have dimples that reduce surface area. The ice on the hood would be bumps that increase surface area. Maybe there should be a special edition eGolf ball edition, with dimples all over.
Great video but 15 hours is a long time. In my Chevy Volt I manage San Francisco to San Diego in 7 hours 40 minutes, 508 miles (817.5 km) averaging with stops 66.3 mph (106.7kmh). I would love to get a full EV but it would turn some normal trips into a two day event.
The wind turbines could be stopped due to ice detection, some older turbines like they are looking like are not equipped with a blade heating system. So it could happen when the temperature is around 0°C the moisture from the air freezes on the rotorblade. The danger is that when there is ice on the blades and the turbine is turning it throws with ice. That could be occurs some dangerous situations. Turbines nowadays are having a Blade Heating System, in which hot air is streaming through the rotor blades to avoid creating ice on the outside. It's just a guess, from weather conditions. It could also happens that the grid operator is stopping the turbines, due to enough energy in the grid. When there is too much energy in the grid it could be break down and creating blackouts. Just my second idea.
Great test. Great format, Shows quite a shady side of today's EV. What is not yet shown is how much battery degradation you get in one trip. My regular business commute - exactly 1000 km, 3 countries. Doing it for 6 years. 8-8.20 hrs. 140-150 driving, 3 stops UP to 20 min. 20K$ car, converted to LPG. One way trip costs +- 50 EUR on lpg. 180K Km and perfectly ok. Recently did it in 6.5 HRS with 2 stops ;-)
You gave me a great idea.. I have a Kia Soul EV in the UK.. we dont have an app to check our charge status or anything... Next time I leave my car charging I should setup a live stream on youtube just so I can monitor my cars own charging and know when it is finished.
Bjorn. These runs are great! Do you by any chance record the intermediate times for eg 250, 500, 750km. Would be super useful to compare cars based on these stage times... Much better performance measure than wltp or epa ranges which miss recharging, throttling, heat effects, etc. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Well. If you want pain you can try 40kWh Leaf. Based on my trip from Copenhagen under near optimum temperatures last February I'm guessing 17hours. (I did 640km in 11 hours, 15 minutes). My wife asked me if I wanted to drive it this February and I declined and we are taking the ferry back :p
It overheats much faster if it's mild, and terribly fast if it's downright hot, at almost any highway speed. Mild winter is ideal for this car, which sheds heat pretty well, is aerodynamic, and still efficient. But you can't do 110 km/hr or charge for 1/2 an hour at a time without getting up to and past a 40C battery.
Yes, e-Golf has no battery cooling. It is because it has multiple small batteries. Just no space for a big single battery. The car is not made for long range but perfectly fine for short range / city.
@@bjornnyland Yeah! I know I know, but maybe the result will be different on the e-Niro. The WLTP range is different and the weight and aerodynamics are different too.
Awww man they took down the burger. I thought so but didn't have the angle until you posted this. Shiiiiiieeeeet. It's fine. :D Spekerod -5 Subscribers each xD I should live stream some again. I need better mounts, I get mean comments saying to never do it again Trololololol
I need considerably less in cold weather, because i use the eco mode in addition with heated seats. If you want toasty 22C in such a cold weather, the heat has to come from somewhere. So the comparison is a little bit unfair. I think you could have avoided one charging stop, maybe two, if you would have made the tour in warmer weather OR would have used some energy saving methods…
Wind turbines might be turned of from demand BUT it might also be that they can't turn no more. There are cables going from the top and if the wind is constantly changing direction and it keeps turning the same way to catch wind it goes to a point where it can't turn anymore and then you have to shut them down and slowly turn them back the other way so the cables inside are straight again. Ofc it can be many other things too, maybe the wind is incoming from a direction which is causing turbulence to the turbines behind, then you can't use them.
This car was confirmed to be coming to Brazil and was exhibited at the São Paulo Auto Show last year, but Volkswagen Brasileira came back and brought only the Golf gte.
@@TheSteinbitt Yes, but remember price and comfort - no seat cooling, no easy entrance, no adjustable regeneration... Battery size is not the most important thing - if only using "standard" 50 kW charger, the difference between M3 og IONIQ would melt away...
@@ghislainlejeune2214 Really? But the "grandmother car" has higher Vmax, faster charging rate, lower consumption, more space, much better comfort... And the e-Golf has massiv Rapid Gate... I drive 48.000 km a year - I choose the "grandmother car" because I don't want to suffer. BTW: in Germany, Golf is called the most unspectacular car on the roads. I think they are right...
Nice work Bjorn, i followed the challenge with the livestream and that was epic ^^ But I’m not sure if this is the best to test this car by such low temp, curious if this will be better in spring for example.
The consumption definitely will go down. As my experience, it will be under 15kwh per 100km. But in another hand, charging time will go up due to rapid gating. When it was 25 deg, only 1st 2 DCFC was running on full speed. From the 3rd on, it's running only at around 50% full speed. That's my experience.
Wind turbines can opperate in all winds low and high Only turned off for maintenance or when the grid has too much energy to deal with Much easier for the turbines to be stopped rather than coal fired power stations or nuclear Install more wind solar and wave generation and get rid of all the polluting and inefficient older junk
Hey Björn, have you ever done the challenge with the model3SR+? I think that’s the car most people would consider buying. Would be interesting to know with the smaller battery
@@oykkh29 yes indeed.thats why i am wondering about it. UA-cam could not have been alle to know how the production version will look like so how can you say something like this?
I wonder how the heatpump works in the e-Golf. If it uses real AC for defogging/drying air then the heatpump can't be active at the same time since it's AC in reverse from my knowledge. It must the use the resistive heater which is far less efficient down to about - 5C than the HP. In the Kia Soul AC is always of when heat pump is active, if I enable defogging HP turns of and consumption increases.
Please repeat this test at an outside temperature of 15-20° C. Your consumption at 100 km/h is so incredibly high that the Rapid Gate would certainly not be of any consequence.
"Hulk" i would appriciate if you could mention somthing while you do your tests somthing about the comfort fx suspension. This is somthing for all of us who have bad necks and get pain in lousy hard cars " non manufaktures thinking of people like me in the life" N.M.T.O.P.L.M. lilke your videos an looking forward to if you have som cool scale in comfort :) best from björn in skåne
Hey Björn! Nice Vid! I love it! How did you sort your table of driven cars at the 1k km challenge? Maybe you should sort them by time. I was pretty confused about the "ranking".
The battery is passiv cooled but insulated, the charging speeds wouldn’t be very different. But since the hesting wouldn’t be required he would get 20-25 percent more range. It all depends on your speed, i would say. 100 vs 160 kmh 😁🙈
Hi Bjorn, at 3:11 you say something about a tool, would you by any chance know the exact name of the tool? I'm having trouble finding it. If you don't know bjorn, anyone else maybe? - great video btw I'm loving the e-golf!!
So, if you were to take this VW e-golf on a long distance trip, in order to allow for the battery not to heat up too much, and allow for faster charging ,you can't drive, say at 110 or 120 km/hr. ? You have to drive slower, like at 85-95 km/hr? That is not good. It would take a lot longer to get to where you want to go. Yes, you can save more energy and allow for faster charging but, when you have have a long road trip ahead of you, you want to be able to drive at higher speeds and still get that faster charging. Is the e-golf batteries not liquid cooled?
Hej Björn you charge to often way drive 106 km than charge? I drive from Hallandsås to Grythyttan 450 km did 2 charging stop avarege speed 69 km/h consum 14.8 / 100km. Temp outside 0 to -4,5° 6 hour 30 min my chargingstops was 32 and 35 min same in The returnera trip. Good video keep upp the good work. Golf is not a långdistans car but it can do it.
I can't wait for the 1000 km VW up challenge
First to break 24 hours?
Yeah I agree also someone said Renault twizy I bet that's over 48 hours
But theoretically it shouldn't be that much slower than Golf right? Bit lower consumption, almost same battery size, bit slower charging
@@shockwave1xD I think the newer eup is nearer the golfs battery size but the old one was 16kwh
He is doing it right now 😂
You have 1500 videos on your channel now...quite a milestone! Congratulations, I look forward to many more!
after your "epic trail with the e-golf " i understand that , in this moment with the actual price , is a good car for almost people : who likes do trips under 400 /450 km x day , with no hurry , or to use in the normal life to go work or moves the city .
thanks from the south , below the pirynees
Very nice Björn! Really enjoyed watching and listening this test. I have my E-Golf 2020 esition arriving in 2 weeks. Great, useful info in this video
Max Wehmut great choice , golf design is much better than id3
I have my e-Golf now for about two months (its a lease car from 2018, it was from a former coworker of mine first). It’s an excellent car for daily commutes and sometimes for larger trips. The cold, however, impacts the cars range dramatically. It’s a quite bad when temperatures go under 2 degrees Celsius. However, I love it and for 90% of the time it’s more than capable.
Me too, it’s an amazing car 😁👍
Below some temperature, the 2 kW heat pump is not enough to heat the car, it also uses the conventional heater then. This is why the consumption is higher than at +5°C.
Well, air density increases with decrease in temperature, which of course means more wind resistance. Also a lot of this trip was done on wet roads, which means increase rolling resistance. But good info on the heat pump. I didn't know that, so thank you for that 😊
I wonder: what's the more common house heating system on Norway, not heat pump?
My Renault Zoe Q90 (40kwh Battery with 43/38 kW AC Charger) have an air cooling system. My 1000Km Trip from Essen in Germany to Paris and Back have never Overhead Problems. The Charging Speedcurve was everytime of the Maximum !
Hi Bjørn, are you ever likely to test the 35.8kWh e-Golf again but in milder weather conditions? It would be interesting for everyone who lives further south.
Those wind turbines are turned on and off based on demand. No demand no wind turbine!
It could be also shut down due to ice detection on the blades. on older turbines it is very likely due to not having a blade heating system.
Could just be an outage too.
By the way, you don't stop wind turbines if the demand is low, at least not in Sweden, you regulate by reducing hydro, since the ideal way to save money in the scandinavian energy system is to keep water in the reservoirs for as long as possible in the winter.
Jon is correct, also it is one of the easiest power sources to turn down or off. The wind farm you drove by might be new and not completely energized.
@@magic1010d No it isn't, not in Sweden, wind turbines has been around here for a long time, so a lot of the turbines don't have remote control. However 50% of Swedens energy production comes from hydro, and a hydro turbine can go from off to full power in less than 60 seconds, so in Sweden hydro is what's regulated.
was looking in your sheets with the results, and saw the insane slow VW Golf. Had to find this video and see it again. Now in the end of 2022, these charging speeds are so low, our phones ´nearly´ charge faster. xD
Yeah, I think it was about time it got replaced by the 77 kWh I.D. 3. Hopefully that car will get powerful charging 💪🏻
100 kW charging, so plenty
@@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος Well, I was hoping it would work with the new 350 kW chargers tho 😖
@@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος 125 kW for mid-size and big batterypack
too bad they priced them from 40k euro and higher...
DjNorad 100kW for 58 kWh battery charging peak.
125kW for 77 kWh
I cant wait for my VW e-Golf. This 1000 km challenge shows i'll easily be able to do all my driving in the Netherlands. My longest rides will always be below 400 km a day, and thats only occasionally. With Fastned and many chargers at destination, it'll be easy.
Ik durf nog niet.
Veel gedoe
Ik heb er 1 sinds augustus. Gewoon top. Als je objectief kijkt, lever je amper wat in qua reistijd tenzij je elke dag 800km rijdt.
Ik ga ieder jaar op winter sport 1000km en zomers op vakantie ook wel eens met auto. Plus regelmatig door het land voor werk. Plus ik woon in een straat met beperkte plaatsen en sowieso geen parkeer plek voor de deur. Moet er weer een paal gezet worden in de straat weer een parkeer plek weg. En op de zaak is er ook geen paal. Plus vind deze golf aardig prijzig voor wat die kan.. lange laad tijd en die accu die te heet wordt. Plus 727 km in 11u! Not good.
Krijg je hem nog in 2019? Zou lekker zijn. Mijne komt binnen 2 weken. Enorm veel zin in als ik dit allemaal zie. Duitse degelijkheid met elektromotor. Heb wel een laadpaal mee gefinancierd in mijn leasebedrag zodat ik thuis kan laden
@@jdnrotterdam2150 dan is de e-Golf niet de juiste EV voor jou. Laadpalen op (of in de buurt van) werk en thuis kan je gewoon aanvragen en Allego en de gemeente regelen dat.
Voor die 2x per jaar zou je ook een auto kunnen huren.
En ik denk dat de komende VW ID.3 wel eens een winnaar kan zijn. Scherpe prijzen, goed bereik en 100+ kW snelladen.
Superb video! You are a NINJA !!
Took me two days to get to Tijuana from Santa Cruz on Hwy 101 in y 2016 eGolf, ~ 25mph. The first stint was driven around 65 mph through hills. After the second stint, the car wouldn't CCS charge... maybe a station fluke, but I later experienced any driving over about ~ 55 mph prevented a subsequent CCS charge, making my stops 3hr+.
Great video. My only pet peeve is that all of the other EVs were tested at temperatures well above freezing, all we all know what the minus temps will do to your battery. Thumbs up for driving 1000km in all of those EVs.
1000km challenge with the new Zoe and the Peugeot e-208
Battery overheating worry at - 10 bloody crazy.
Yeah that so wrong :s
That's the thing with California compliance cars they are no proper cars.
Wow, 2 years already. So far, still loving my e-Golf, although the "rapid gate" sucks a bit. I'm planning to do a 900 km trip from 🇳🇱->🇨🇭 . Will be a long day
Me too, awesome car! How was your trip?
"Dude, I am a noob!" - Bjorn, 2019
Sarcastic level: 1000
Rapidgating even in the winter... I can understand why VW would make an early EV without an active cooling system, but not why Nissan after more than a decade of making the Leaf still doesn’t have it...
Very interesting video though, it seems that the increased consumption in the cold really more than offset any benefit from better passive cooling.
But that works only in countries where you have winter a few months in the year. What about in countries that don't? In any case, I now know that the VW e-golf does not have a cooling system for it's batteries similar to ionic, and Leaf. Does one need to be buy a premium EV to get the cooling feature? Seems so, and will be another decision I will have to weigh when choosing my EV for next year.
2nd generation Leaf is only a refresh of the first generation, most of the components under the skin are still the same, so it is unfortunately still passively cooled. A positive side effect though is that the newer battery packs are backwards compatible with 1st gen Leafs.
@@smr32061 Ioniq 28 at least has forced air cooling, so you can run cabin AC on high while charging and it will still provide pretty decent cooling to the battery, much batter than nothing. Leaf and eGolf have no battery cooling at all.
@@ashton9699
Exactly. And that’s despite the fact that Nissan do appear to have recognised the need for cooling in the eNV-200, which has similar air cooling for the battery. But apparently it’s not needed for the Leaf 🙄
Having had the Kona only charge properly when the batteries are WARM enough, not too cold, I think the problem was that the batteries were too cold in the e-Golf. For instance I charged on Ionity after a gentle drive and got 45kW. I unplugged after 15 minutes, then plugged in again and got 76kW! During the day when it was warmer, you got higher charging rates. Needs to be warm, not cold, but not hot :)
The way to get a better result with an e-Golf. is to drive in cold temps like this, or perhaps 5C, and drive slower, so passive cooling still takes hold, but heat accumulates slower. That would strike a better balance, and net a faster overall result. 100 km/hr would be faster in the long run. Shorter charge stops (~20 minutes) will help too. He needed to use OBD11 to keep an eye on it. I've had one for 5 years, and it won't get over 35C if you push it less hard when it's around freezing. It won't rapid-gate at those temps.
The HUD on the livestream was very creative! Kudos!
Thanks to regen and the low speed of LA traffic, my eGolf generates more mileage than it uses during my commute home.
There's a paper mill in Varberg, by the way. They can give off a characteristic smell under some circumstances. In the past they let smelly gases straight out, these days they usually burn it in an afterburner (actually called that) to reduce the inconvenience to the surroundings. In some circumstances these systems don't work though, and a sort of umami smell but more unpleasant escapes. It's not dangerous, but it smells bad. Paper mill workers often say that "it smells like money".
I miss my e-golf some one ran into me and it might be a write off but I would confirm that the best time to do long trips is around 10-15c it’s no ac and no heat and right after taking winter tires off
Golf balls have dimples that reduce surface area. The ice on the hood would be bumps that increase surface area. Maybe there should be a special edition eGolf ball edition, with dimples all over.
Great video but 15 hours is a long time. In my Chevy Volt I manage San Francisco to San Diego in 7 hours 40 minutes, 508 miles (817.5 km) averaging with stops 66.3 mph (106.7kmh). I would love to get a full EV but it would turn some normal trips into a two day event.
"Normal"
The wind turbines could be stopped due to ice detection, some older turbines like they are looking like are not equipped with a blade heating system. So it could happen when the temperature is around 0°C the moisture from the air freezes on the rotorblade. The danger is that when there is ice on the blades and the turbine is turning it throws with ice. That could be occurs some dangerous situations. Turbines nowadays are having a Blade Heating System, in which hot air is streaming through the rotor blades to avoid creating ice on the outside.
It's just a guess, from weather conditions. It could also happens that the grid operator is stopping the turbines, due to enough energy in the grid. When there is too much energy in the grid it could be break down and creating blackouts. Just my second idea.
Allright... Das ist VolksBjörn wagentest!
Great test. Great format, Shows quite a shady side of today's EV. What is not yet shown is how much battery degradation you get in one trip.
My regular business commute - exactly 1000 km, 3 countries. Doing it for 6 years. 8-8.20 hrs. 140-150 driving, 3 stops UP to 20 min. 20K$ car, converted to LPG. One way trip costs +- 50 EUR on lpg. 180K Km and perfectly ok.
Recently did it in 6.5 HRS with 2 stops ;-)
You should try and get a 1000 km test in the Kreisel e-golf that has a 55.7kwh liquid cooked battery pack... Oh yeahhhh!!
In China, we can buy the e-golf with 1,9000~2,1500€.
And, by the EV car, we shouldn't pay the tax.
For this price. VM made a good EV car.
You gave me a great idea.. I have a Kia Soul EV in the UK.. we dont have an app to check our charge status or anything... Next time I leave my car charging I should setup a live stream on youtube just so I can monitor my cars own charging and know when it is finished.
Dude, you drove over 14 hours without getting hardly any rest! You are hard core!
Incorrect. I was getting tons of rest during the long charging stops.
Would be fun if you did this test in the E-up also this winter. I bet it willl beat it's big brother.
Bjorn. These runs are great! Do you by any chance record the intermediate times for eg 250, 500, 750km. Would be super useful to compare cars based on these stage times... Much better performance measure than wltp or epa ranges which miss recharging, throttling, heat effects, etc. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Well. If you want pain you can try 40kWh Leaf. Based on my trip from Copenhagen under near optimum temperatures last February I'm guessing 17hours. (I did 640km in 11 hours, 15 minutes). My wife asked me if I wanted to drive it this February and I declined and we are taking the ferry back :p
Good car but not so great for long distances.
I like the 1000k winter test. Maybe you should have a summer time test & a winter time test to keep it fair .
It overheats much faster if it's mild, and terribly fast if it's downright hot, at almost any highway speed. Mild winter is ideal for this car, which sheds heat pretty well, is aerodynamic, and still efficient. But you can't do 110 km/hr or charge for 1/2 an hour at a time without getting up to and past a 40C battery.
10:11 That definitely sounds like McDonalds! 😂
Patrick P unexpected reference but I knew exactly what he meant 😂
Not to offend or anything, but you look remarkably like the hulk in that green light!
I love my egolf, it’s such a good car. Thanks for doing this tests and showing us what can be done with some patience 😁👍
So that has been the coldest test you have done to date.. how would it fair in mid teens temp>???
Yes, e-Golf has no battery cooling. It is because it has multiple small batteries. Just no space for a big single battery. The car is not made for long range but perfectly fine for short range / city.
Nice video Bjørn! Maybe the e-Niro for the next 1.000 km challenge? It t will be interesting.
Did it with Kona already.
@@bjornnyland Yeah! I know I know, but maybe the result will be different on the e-Niro. The WLTP range is different and the weight and aerodynamics are different too.
Awww man they took down the burger. I thought so but didn't have the angle until you posted this. Shiiiiiieeeeet. It's fine. :D
Spekerod -5 Subscribers each xD
I should live stream some again. I need better mounts, I get mean comments saying to never do it again Trololololol
Great car, the e-Golf! As time goes on, these electric cars will have greater and greater range, which is fantastic.
I need considerably less in cold weather, because i use the eco mode in addition with heated seats. If you want toasty 22C in such a cold weather, the heat has to come from somewhere. So the comparison is a little bit unfair. I think you could have avoided one charging stop, maybe two, if you would have made the tour in warmer weather OR would have used some energy saving methods…
Wind turbines might be turned of from demand BUT it might also be that they can't turn no more. There are cables going from the top and if the wind is constantly changing direction and it keeps turning the same way to catch wind it goes to a point where it can't turn anymore and then you have to shut them down and slowly turn them back the other way so the cables inside are straight again. Ofc it can be many other things too, maybe the wind is incoming from a direction which is causing turbulence to the turbines behind, then you can't use them.
That ignition bleep is 100% a sample of The Rasmus - In the Shadows...
This car was confirmed to be coming to Brazil and was exhibited at the São Paulo Auto Show last year, but Volkswagen Brasileira came back and brought only the Golf gte.
Next car Peugeot e208 ??
Yeah, it would bang a lot of views. Also, review would be great because Peugeot ideology is different from any car on the market.
@@pavel8754 Let's see if he can borrow one electric 208 !
Pavel what do you mean that their ideology is different? :)
Classic IONIQ is still the most efficient car for this challenge :o)
But ioniq is a grand mother car :) I will take another eGolf over the iOniq no douby....
@@TheSteinbitt Yes, but remember price and comfort - no seat cooling, no easy entrance, no adjustable regeneration...
Battery size is not the most important thing - if only using "standard" 50 kW charger, the difference between M3 og IONIQ would melt away...
@@ghislainlejeune2214 Really? But the "grandmother car" has higher Vmax, faster charging rate, lower consumption, more space, much better comfort...
And the e-Golf has massiv Rapid Gate...
I drive 48.000 km a year - I choose the "grandmother car" because I don't want to suffer.
BTW: in Germany, Golf is called the most unspectacular car on the roads. I think they are right...
Michael Pries my mother in law have an iOniq, every time I drove her car, I miss my eGolf... IOniq is so boring
@@michaelpries960 ö
Nice work Bjorn, i followed the challenge with the livestream and that was epic ^^
But I’m not sure if this is the best to test this car by such low temp, curious if this will be better in spring for example.
Next car: Renault twizy 😂
Giacomo David
That would be hilarious!
@@kardy12 i did 380kms bjorn style last winter to deliver the car from Bologna to Turin 28 hours of non stop driving-charging
Patreeko theArtist
I’ll check that one out!
No... Fiat 500e!!
Edit: I have a i3 (not s) 120ah you can borrow if you wanna do this test.
Windmills have windspeed tresholds before they start spinning. Those who where spinning are other models then the ones wich arent spinning...
Hi, can you repeat the 1000km EGolf test at a temperature like the other cars? I think it will do faster than in 15:50
The consumption definitely will go down. As my experience, it will be under 15kwh per 100km. But in another hand, charging time will go up due to rapid gating. When it was 25 deg, only 1st 2 DCFC was running on full speed. From the 3rd on, it's running only at around 50% full speed. That's my experience.
Wind turbines can opperate in all winds low and high
Only turned off for maintenance or when the grid has too much energy to deal with
Much easier for the turbines to be stopped rather than coal fired power stations or nuclear
Install more wind solar and wave generation and get rid of all the polluting and inefficient older junk
Obdeleven is a very good little thing, I really recommend it!
I3 120Ah please!! Should not rapidgate and should get around 45kw for longer hopefully.
Maybe not enough wind for the windturbines. The one rotating is not necessarily engaged and producing power, but just idling in the wind
Really bad time for an e-Golf. I'm waiting for the Opel Corsa-e testing. It will be interesting.
Why would it be a bad time in your opinion?
@@TheFootballDude18 It was bad time because of the small battery of course. It doesn't make sense to buy this car.
Jacuskot well, honestly the discount they give now in Norway 260.000 for an exclusive model, is pretty good. Best EV Choice as of now
I’m confused as to why Teslas heat their batteries up to increase charging speed, given other cars slow down when they get hot,
i wonder would the Ioniq 38KW beat that time....??
Hey Björn, have you ever done the challenge with the model3SR+? I think that’s the car most people would consider buying. Would be interesting to know with the smaller battery
Groovelessons especially after 170kW charging update.
Europe didn't get the 170 kW update yet. I'm still waiting for that one.
@@bjornnyland Some people already got it now :)
The e-golf is so more premium then the plastic ID.3
you should wait for the release versions in september. otherwise only speculation.
Jonathan Deinhard very old post
@@oykkh29 yes indeed.thats why i am wondering about it. UA-cam could not have been alle to know how the production version will look like so how can you say something like this?
Jonathan Deinhard because i have seen it
@@oykkh29 but not the final Version! Or do you work at VW ?
The dimples improves the aerodynamics
So it becomes an e-Golf ball then?
How do you think the ID.3 will do in the cold weather?!
I wonder how the heatpump works in the e-Golf. If it uses real AC for defogging/drying air then the heatpump can't be active at the same time since it's AC in reverse from my knowledge. It must the use the resistive heater which is far less efficient down to about - 5C than the HP. In the Kia Soul AC is always of when heat pump is active, if I enable defogging HP turns of and consumption increases.
4 days over 39c in Perth this week. Talk to me about battery overheating.
Teslas are fine a assume?
Conclusion: city car and that's it...
A city car at the same price as an e-Soul. At least here in Sweden...
city car? golf?
@@furkanipekoglu At least not a car you should buy if you're planning to do any longer trips where charging stops would be necessary.
Please repeat this test at an outside temperature of 15-20° C. Your consumption at 100 km/h is so incredibly high that the Rapid Gate would certainly not be of any consequence.
The problem with 15-20°C ambient temperature is that the battery will overheat way earlier.
"Hulk" i would appriciate if you could mention somthing while you do your tests somthing about the comfort fx suspension.
This is somthing for all of us who have bad necks and get pain in lousy hard cars " non manufaktures thinking of people like me in the life" N.M.T.O.P.L.M. lilke your videos an looking forward to if you have som cool scale in comfort :) best from björn in skåne
11:54 What's French about the hotdog? It looks like a German Bratwurst.
I think the hotdog is on a French stick (baguette)
Would be interesting if it is possible to retrofit ventilation (fan) near the battery pack for active air cooling.
Hi Björn! I would love to see the 1000km challenge for the Tesla Model 3 SR+ after the 150kW upgrade.
SR+ gets 170 kW.
Ah yes, i forgot, even better! Would be interessting to see up until which point it charges at 170kW and if its usefull for long Trips. Greeting
Hey Björn!
Nice Vid! I love it!
How did you sort your table of driven cars at the 1k km challenge?
Maybe you should sort them by time. I was pretty confused about the "ranking".
My bad. Thanks for the notification :)
@@bjornnyland No Problem!
You're welcome!
When the cybertruck comes out, I wanna see Bjorn do a nimber for nostalgia. Throwback
Lol "new record", I first thought it was a clickbait because it is not a very fast/big range EV, but I was right and wrong! Haha
Hello! When you will test the new Opel E-Corsa in this 1000Km challlenge?
What du you think how much faster it is when u drive it at lets say 5-10 degrees outside?
Next Leaf 24 kwh :D
Fiat 500e and Mercedes Bclass next XD
agree
Prius Prime lol
Am I the only one that hears The Rasmus - In the Shadows whenever he gets the beeping when opening the door?
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You're really lucky with your temperatures. Imagine doing this in Germany in summer during daytime😅
The battery is passiv cooled but insulated, the charging speeds wouldn’t be very different. But since the hesting wouldn’t be required he would get 20-25 percent more range. It all depends on your speed, i would say. 100 vs 160 kmh 😁🙈
Next car MG ZS ev compare it with your Thai trip experience.
Coldest average temperatures by a long shot. Deserves another test in neutral conditions
leaf 24 kwh next!
Hi Bjorn, at 3:11 you say something about a tool, would you by any chance know the exact name of the tool? I'm having trouble finding it. If you don't know bjorn, anyone else maybe? - great video btw I'm loving the e-golf!!
Check obdeleven dot com
@@TheSweMusicMan thank you kind sir
Do you have windshield heating on the car? The headlight of the oncoming traffic looks like having a diffraction on the heating wires.
cant wait for bjorn to do the 1000km challenge with the MG ZS EV if he ever gets the chance would love to see the charge rates
Can you do this 1000km challenge in an ICE car and see how much it costs and how long it lasts also please?
Take det Opel-ampera e it is none videos on UA-cam about it and many a winter range test
So, if you were to take this VW e-golf on a long distance trip, in order to allow for the battery not to heat up too much, and allow for faster charging ,you can't drive, say at 110 or 120 km/hr. ? You have to drive slower, like at 85-95 km/hr? That is not good. It would take a lot longer to get to where you want to go. Yes, you can save more energy and allow for faster charging but, when you have have a long road trip ahead of you, you want to be able to drive at higher speeds and still get that faster charging. Is the e-golf batteries not liquid cooled?
02:22 HOLY SHITBALLS 😂😂
Please do same test to taycan porsche and will it do rapidgate?
hi Bjorn,
have you planned a challenge 1000 km with the mg zs ev?
Hej Björn you charge to often way drive 106 km than charge? I drive from Hallandsås to Grythyttan 450 km did 2 charging stop avarege speed 69 km/h consum 14.8 / 100km. Temp outside 0 to -4,5° 6 hour 30 min my chargingstops was 32 and 35 min same in The returnera trip.
Good video keep upp the good work. Golf is not a långdistans car but it can do it.
69 km/h...