CARMAX COLLAPSE Of The Car Market

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    CarMax isn't doing so hot these days...could this signal a CORRECTION in the used car market? Zach certainly thinks so! CarMax's lackluster sales and gross profit numbers, combined with high interest rates and lower new car prices, will likely lead to lower used car prices this year!
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  • @kd8opi
    @kd8opi Місяць тому +34

    I used to watch this channel, but with every thumbnail/headline predicting some automobile apocalypse that never happened, I stopped.

    • @randymcnaughton4318
      @randymcnaughton4318 27 днів тому +1

      look around you, we’re literally in the automobile apocalypse

    • @p.smallz6168
      @p.smallz6168 21 день тому

      @@randymcnaughton4318 it even close

  • @jaws10278
    @jaws10278 Місяць тому +217

    Capital One sounds alarm, Ally sounds alarm, Carmax sounds alarm……. Yet nothing has happened or changed?

    • @jdfrench86
      @jdfrench86 Місяць тому +82

      Because you're just getting clickbaited. They repost the same video every 3 months lol.

    • @TEQLC
      @TEQLC Місяць тому +18

      LOL! And the thumbnails! Here for the comments. Pure gold.

    • @babajoon1214
      @babajoon1214 Місяць тому +15

      Awaiting 2 and half years now and hearing this.

    • @Koushi82
      @Koushi82 Місяць тому +6

      And caravna went up? Lmao scam caravna.

    • @drones7838
      @drones7838 Місяць тому +10

      the doom and gloom click bait

  • @devildog5354
    @devildog5354 Місяць тому +139

    Current car prices + sales taxes + high interest rates + high insurance costs = a lot of consumers staying out of the market...

    • @JerryGivan
      @JerryGivan Місяць тому +15

      Commonsense, high interest rates + high insurance costs means the government is causing this insanity.

    • @devildog5354
      @devildog5354 Місяць тому +4

      @@JerryGivan Of course they are...

    • @babajoon1214
      @babajoon1214 Місяць тому +13

      Plus unwanted 500% marked up accessories and market adjustments.

    • @dennissvitak5475
      @dennissvitak5475 Місяць тому +9

      Throw in that everyone that purchased a new car in the last three years is upside down, due to dealer markups. No equity, in addition to the reasons you described.

    • @snap4720
      @snap4720 Місяць тому +8

      Bidenomics

  • @kennethburton9165
    @kennethburton9165 Місяць тому +27

    In the summer of 2021 I was looking a buying a used 4Runner that ranged from three to four years old. I learned that I could buy a brand new 4Runner for an additional $3000, I ended up buying new, very glad I did.

  • @lot2196
    @lot2196 Місяць тому +113

    If i had a dollar every time someone predicted the demise of Carmax and Carvana, I could actually afford a vehicle.

  • @Aprilseahorse
    @Aprilseahorse Місяць тому +106

    Carmax is part of the problem. They try to sell questionable cars at crazy prices.

    • @jekinneys
      @jekinneys Місяць тому +14

      Tell everyone you don't know anything about cars and used lots without saying it. Not how it works at all and more so for them. Saying lot A has "better" cars than lot B is ignorant as they more than likely came from the same auction. Not to mention the 30 day unlimited anything for any reason warranty. Which I did use and took the whole truck back, and got a different one. Prices is what value the purchaser has not your opinion on value. To me it worth a bit more $$ to NOT have to even step foot in the dealer.

    • @gwcrispi
      @gwcrispi Місяць тому +2

      I sold them my 16 year old questionable Honda Ridgeline for 50% more than it should have been worth. Imagine a 16 year old car on original EVERYTHING. (Except brakes and a radiator). I would like to know if they took a loss or ripped someone off?

    • @Balnk1326
      @Balnk1326 Місяць тому +9

      ⁠@@gwcrispithey sold your poorly maintained Ridgeline at auction to a “Mom & Pop” local dealer.

    • @user-tu1ot8ol1u
      @user-tu1ot8ol1u Місяць тому

      @@jekinneysbro is yapping

    • @nemesis656
      @nemesis656 Місяць тому +4

      @@jekinneys You're trying way too hard to justify getting ripped off by Carmax

  • @sabastian4858
    @sabastian4858 Місяць тому +73

    I've been reading this title for the last six months. I don't think we've seen anything close to the bottom yet.

    • @jdfrench86
      @jdfrench86 Місяць тому +12

      You've been clickbaited. You'll see this same video reposted in 2025.

    • @yucrysoez
      @yucrysoez Місяць тому +6

      Yeah just look through the history of this channel. They've had the same titles since they started

    • @Sunshinemano627
      @Sunshinemano627 Місяць тому +2

      Used car only dropping hundred dollars here and there

    • @dondgc2298
      @dondgc2298 Місяць тому +1

      You see it almost everywhere. Apparently the best way to get clicks on UA-cam is with a headline that says “the car market is crashing.”

    • @Blvcjac
      @Blvcjac Місяць тому +1

      They say the market is crashing then turn around saying "now is the worst time to buy cars" lol these guys are a money grab

  • @RandomGamerCory
    @RandomGamerCory Місяць тому +53

    Used car market is great
    Buying a used car for over msrp of a new one is stupid as fuck

    • @tonyjordan1320
      @tonyjordan1320 Місяць тому +1

      I've been looking to buy 2-3 yr old CRV or HRV for the wife, its crazy, there is only a few thousand difference on a brand new one.....

    • @heavycream6682
      @heavycream6682 Місяць тому

      I just checked out a 2015 Corolla online with 70k miles. I looked up the original MSRP they want $1995 less than the original MSRP.

    • @tonyjordan1320
      @tonyjordan1320 Місяць тому +1

      @@heavycream6682 Nearly 10 yrs old and they want $2 k less than it was brand new-proud of that Corolla aren't they???

    • @RandomGamerCory
      @RandomGamerCory Місяць тому

      ​@@heavycream6682they have 2-3 year old siennas with 20-60k miles. They want 2k under MSRP of a new one

    • @fragoutrambo6381
      @fragoutrambo6381 Місяць тому

      Depends on the car of course. Cross shopping a brand new hatchback for a used sports car is pretty reasonable.

  • @grobble8954
    @grobble8954 Місяць тому +11

    Used car prices are still very elevated. just went thru buying a car for my retired mother this week. Used car prices were so over priced, went ahead & purchased a new car instead. She doesn't drive much so was thinking used originally. She previously has a 2008 car purchased new & it only has 73K miles.

    • @NickChemist-yf6oj
      @NickChemist-yf6oj Місяць тому +1

      So what was wrong with that car that she needed a new one ?

    • @grobble8954
      @grobble8954 Місяць тому

      @NickChemist-yf6oj Nothing, she just wanted a modern car with updated tech, etc... She has a more modern car at the winter place in FL already, wanted one for primary residence up north.

  • @Steve33056
    @Steve33056 Місяць тому +24

    Both new and uses cars are still way too high. Who wants to pay 65k for a brand new pickup truck. A consumer is probably looking at 1500 a month payment. Mercedes used to cost that much.

    • @DarthNero
      @DarthNero Місяць тому +2

      Right! Back in the day when pick trucks were an affordable, it made sense to buy one even if you don’t use it a lot. Nowadays, unless you’re in the business where you have to have one for the work you do, it a poor financial decision to spend todays inflated prices specially when you’re reason behind the purchase is “in case i need to tow one day”.

    • @dmbsituation
      @dmbsituation Місяць тому

      Test drove a few full size trucks this weekend and was amazed how quickly the dealership dropped their OTD prices and just how rough the ride still is on base models that they’re trying to selling for 45k+.

  • @lonewolftrading2
    @lonewolftrading2 Місяць тому +3

    You and your dad are the BEST. Monthly car insurance in Michigan can be almost as much as your monthly car payment. Here in Michigan, we find out how much your insurance will be on a car before you finance it and buy it.

  • @pauls6277
    @pauls6277 Місяць тому +1

    I just can’t thank you enough for all the info you guys have put out there! I bought my used close to new car today and I felt a PRO buyer with all the knowledge I got from you guys. Needless to say, I got the car with a big discount!

  • @georgeferlazzo7936
    @georgeferlazzo7936 Місяць тому +1

    Hello Caredge
    Thank you for another Great Video 👍 Question for you. With the bottom currently dropping out. When should I expect to get the Best Deal to Buy😊

  • @rcguy8128
    @rcguy8128 Місяць тому +2

    I can't believe that some car dealerships are still charging market adjustment like they did during covid, local kia is charging $2-$3K over msrp.

  • @msbethmildhyperbaricoxygen6392
    @msbethmildhyperbaricoxygen6392 Місяць тому +8

    We had this experience over the last 10 days. We were offered for our 2015 Ram by Carmax $15k, 6 days later it dropped to $14k and 2 days later it dropped to $12k.
    That didn’t take long to see $3k vanish.

  • @the_dog_goddess
    @the_dog_goddess Місяць тому

    You guys do good work and have great shares- so any predictions as to WHEN, in 2024 timeframe wise that car prices will fall to where it actually makes sense for people to buy or lease them?

  • @briguyinsi
    @briguyinsi Місяць тому +5

    I hate everything about the car market, new, old, all of it. Going through hell right now trying to get a truck. Turns out there is a disparity between my Experian and the Equifax and TransUnion FICOs. Somehow someway something popped up from 2014 on my Experian, and it dropped to 590 while my other two are in the 740s. But, it appears dealers by me run Experian and even though they ran the others and see there’s no issue, Stellantis and Chrysler are denying me. Obv I will have to see what happened and fix the Experian, but the process is exhausting.

    • @tonyjordan1320
      @tonyjordan1320 Місяць тому +2

      I had a bad mark pop up on my credit report a long time ago, checked into it and a fellow with the same name hadn't paid his hospital bill and I had to prove that I had paid mine and it wasn't me...

  • @KathyJvanest
    @KathyJvanest Місяць тому +84

    Most rich people stay rich by spending like the poor and investing without stopping then most poor people stay poor by spending like the rich yet not investing like the rich but impressing them

    • @PaulaAdrian721
      @PaulaAdrian721 Місяць тому

      People prefer to spend money on liabilities, Rather than investing in assets and be very profitable

    • @AlexanderHernandezhj
      @AlexanderHernandezhj Місяць тому

      You are so correct! Save, invest and spend for necessities and a few small luxuries relatives to one's total assets ratio.

    • @Juanw5ayne
      @Juanw5ayne Місяць тому

      Making a living is becoming more challenging, and it's difficult for me to save enough to enjoy quality time with my loved ones.

    • @CharlotteAdam360
      @CharlotteAdam360 Місяць тому

      Even though digital currency has taken over the world, people still work for people. So, why not consider buying stocks and crypto and holding onto them?

    • @SherrillHouser1
      @SherrillHouser1 Місяць тому

      That's a great point! With the rise of digital currency, investing in stocks and crypto can be a smart move. It's a way to potentially grow your wealth and secure your financial future

  • @lynnmckenney1987
    @lynnmckenney1987 Місяць тому +24

    I've been holding out for like 4 years now, keeping my 89 civic wagon running.
    I cant wait for the market to fall through the floor.

    • @R0CKtheR3D
      @R0CKtheR3D Місяць тому +9

      Sounds like youve been holding out for 34 years, not 4

    • @ryanmac358
      @ryanmac358 Місяць тому +2

      Enjoy your wait

    • @Betamax84
      @Betamax84 Місяць тому +3

      Spoiler alert: your 89 civic won’t ever stop running!

    • @lynnmckenney1987
      @lynnmckenney1987 Місяць тому +1

      @@Betamax84 Did a compression test last month and it's in good shape!! It's kind of nuts how these old hondas just keep going👍

    • @lynnmckenney1987
      @lynnmckenney1987 Місяць тому

      @@ryanmac358 I will! I'm happily watching it happen and waiting until prices are somewhat near normal 😄

  • @falcon8553
    @falcon8553 Місяць тому

    Thank you for the great information. I was interested in a 2021 gmc 4x4 Sierra T something model with 17k miles. Dealership wanted 53,83ish for it. The interest about 6.5. I thought it quite high. Even with 12k is for my vehicle it still left a lot of money to finance. Any feed from you fellas is greatly appreciated. Again, thank you for videos. It makes me think about what I am getting into.

  • @RedEyeC
    @RedEyeC Місяць тому +6

    Great video. Say, you guys need to do a video on the increase of fraudulent auto sales - especially private selling and the huge increase in "title washing" scams.

  • @charlieb308
    @charlieb308 Місяць тому +8

    I’m keeping my 1986 Monte Carlo SS, not worth trading in for $12,000-$15,000 after 36 years

    • @tonyjordan1320
      @tonyjordan1320 Місяць тому

      36 yrs, outstanding!! Someone kept up with their maint...

  • @gerardohernandez8901
    @gerardohernandez8901 Місяць тому +1

    Your website couldn’t generate a quote for my 2022 Acura MDX aspect perfect conditions 38000 miles no scratches. Paint still shines like brand new. I’ll try somewhere else.

  • @user-ri8ir5zb1c
    @user-ri8ir5zb1c Місяць тому +1

    I bought a ford 150 from Carmax and traded it in for something more economical 6 mos later, and they gave me more than I paid for it as a trade in

  • @blackburd
    @blackburd Місяць тому +16

    Just sold my 2023 mx-5 with 12k at carmax. They paid me well for it. I walked the lot and saw a handfull of 1 and 2 year old cars priced at ridiculous prices, basically new car prices. Add on top of this their 11-18% interest rate loans and the cars on the carmax lot are priced HIGHER than NEW. bonkers.

  • @reddragon3518
    @reddragon3518 Місяць тому +31

    Well, it's Groundhog Day... again... and that must mean we're up here at Gobbler's Knob waiting for the forecast from the world's most-famous groundhog weatherman, Punxsutawney Phil, who's just about to tell us how much more winter we can expect.

    • @markh.6687
      @markh.6687 Місяць тому +3

      Again...and again...and again. :)

  • @morebeer7673
    @morebeer7673 Місяць тому +1

    I walked a Carmax lot last week and I felt abused just reading the prices. Darned near MSRP for 3-4 year old cars with 30-40K miles.

  • @camwalker1186
    @camwalker1186 Місяць тому

    Keep up the good work boys. Great info consolidated into one source. Keep doing my research for me. Thx.

  • @RodT87
    @RodT87 Місяць тому +2

    Just came back from a used car dealer. Its a dealer thats pretty large with multiple locations. Went in to see an 2020 Acura MDX AWD priced at 31k with 46k miles. Car was filthy. As its a used car we know it is what it is but there were more nicks, small dents and blemishes on it and we were thinking and they're really asking excellent condition pricing for this nastiness? We walked.

    • @eseir64
      @eseir64 Місяць тому

      You should be able to find one with less miles for similar prices. Even if they are asking say $34K, I would still go see it. They are dying for business

  • @123moof
    @123moof Місяць тому

    Went looking for a Chevy Bolt last weekend at a GMC dealer. Place I went to was filled to the gills, hard to find a spot to park on a Friday morning. While it seemed the place was well staffed with at least a dozen employees I saw, only one guy actual dealing with people trying to buy a car, and he was double booked for our appointment time making every step excruciating. We were sent to the lot to look around and text him which car we wanted to test drive, but no prices on anything, so you had to cross reference the VIN to their web site. Really an awful experience. When it came to numbers they would not budge and inch and we walked. The price was fair, but no way I wasn't getting a pound of flesh after all that hassle.

  • @oldfordman68
    @oldfordman68 Місяць тому

    There are tons of adds popping up on Facebook of companies offering to buy my cars, Carvana still won't negotiate on their cars and on average they are $3,000 higher than others dealer's for similar vehicles.

  • @tessp100d4
    @tessp100d4 Місяць тому +3

    Oh ‘’Shocking’’ wait.. oh ‘’Shocked’’, wait.. oh It’s the “‘Collapse””

  • @bp39047
    @bp39047 Місяць тому

    In Louisiana, prices are well above CarMax levels ($5k+). With $500+ document fees in Louisiana this makes it the worse state in the South or Southwest to buy a vehicle.

  • @jekinneys
    @jekinneys Місяць тому +4

    I love the comments about Carmax. So many opinions passed as facts but no explanation or anything. Many of the local lots including Dealers now price against carmax and carvana, not KBB. Both those companies use a algorithm of data crunching for care values, including KBB's api. Now starting to us AI also, that said. Now you pay a "premium:" instead of a free service, to not have to spend time at a dealership. Generally takes me an hour to do a deal at Carmax instead of a whole afternoon at a dealership. Add in they drop off, sign papers (10 minutes), and done.
    If time = money and I make $75 hour. Definitely worth a couple hundred more to not spend a day at the dealer. Have it delivered and a 30 day no questions warranty. Which I have taken advantage of by swapping a vehicle.

    • @morebeer7673
      @morebeer7673 Місяць тому

      Sounds like you're trying to rationalize allowing your wallet to be raped...

  • @conklindavison7127
    @conklindavison7127 Місяць тому +1

    I hear people talk about the price of cars dropping, but they rarely talk about the car insurance cost. Case and point, I looked at a 2024 Tiguan and I wanted to finance $30000 by using a 60 month loan and my car payment would roughly be $602 a month but my insurance was going to be $1278 a year not including my deductible. I knew people who go in an accident but because there deductible was so high, there car sat in the drive way until they could pay the deductible.

    • @heythere6983
      @heythere6983 Місяць тому +1

      I always give the vin of the car I wanna buy to insurance first and see what it will be like .

  • @jp93309
    @jp93309 Місяць тому

    Carmax bought my 2010 Honda CR-V for quite a bit more than I expected. The deal went through Edmunds with a 7 day guarantee on their offer. Surprised they didn’t cut down the offer when I got to the lot.

  • @jsuperman7672
    @jsuperman7672 Місяць тому +3

    The used cars I see still have covid prices they are 10 to 15 k over than what they are really worth. Plus the interest rate is still high, and will be, than a new vehicle, so where I'm at people are buying new, for the lower interest rate. I'm not in a hurry to buy, so I can play the waiting game

  • @xHelpFLY
    @xHelpFLY Місяць тому

    This is exactly why I got the 2024 Trax over what they tried to sell me which was a used 2020 equinox and it was only 2k less

  • @zodiac_blue9116
    @zodiac_blue9116 Місяць тому

    Are you guys able to rate by state how the industry is doing? I live in western PA and it seems bulletproof, prices not falling here. The numbers you share is that a national average? Are certain states skewing the numbers??

  • @MrTCFIRE
    @MrTCFIRE Місяць тому +2

    Looked for a new HD truck recently…dealers will not move on prices and trade in values are silly…bbbyyyyeee

  • @jimmyamico4713
    @jimmyamico4713 Місяць тому +5

    In my opinion, I don’t see Carmax coming down with their prices… Watching about a half a dozen videos I could see that Carmax the mileage on these vehicles are way too high. The prices are way too high and my opinion if they came down another 20%… I still think the car will be sitting… I really think that Carmax got greedy. That’s why they are in the situation they’re in…. rest in peace.✝️☮️CM

    • @dondavi5798
      @dondavi5798 Місяць тому

      Carmax's secret is not the informed buyer. Their niche whether they want to admit it or not is the folks that are in need of a vehicle and "special financing situation". Even pre pandemic you can shop carmax at all the used higher mileages and the price is usually within $1k of a brand new vehicle at a regular dealership.

  • @paulabennett3069
    @paulabennett3069 Місяць тому

    Thank you for sharing great information. I happen to be in the car market as my 18 yr. old Prius in on its’ last legs.

    • @pooh4519
      @pooh4519 Місяць тому +1

      wow, I thought Toyotas were supposed to last forever.

    • @EMichaelBall
      @EMichaelBall Місяць тому +1

      If you have a very good negotiator with you, a used EV is probably your best deal right now. Depreciation is EXTREMELY heavy. A good deal will keep you minimally underwater Keep the battery between 20-80%, unless it’s an LFP battery, which needs to be regularly charged to 100%.

    • @paulabennett3069
      @paulabennett3069 Місяць тому

      This Toyota lasted 18 years. The hybrid battery needs to be replaced. If not for the rusted under carriage, I would replace the battery

  • @carconciergeplus4357
    @carconciergeplus4357 Місяць тому

    Great video gents!

  • @zodiac_blue9116
    @zodiac_blue9116 Місяць тому +2

    New cars rising in price by 40% since 2018 are not touched by an 18% drop especially with current financing rates.

  • @BuckRogers2000
    @BuckRogers2000 Місяць тому +1

    I can't wait to see if your prediction pans out. I'm rooting for US!!

  • @KFahrenheit
    @KFahrenheit Місяць тому

    I am in the market of buying a used accord. And base of what you 2 are saying I should wait till summer?

  • @hud1964
    @hud1964 Місяць тому

    I would appreciate your view on KBB and NADA values, if they are fair or or favor the dealers. Especially trade-in value when dealers try to steal your trade using KBB or saying they called a 'Ford' dealer and they bid your Ford trade even less than KBB. Getting fair value on trades is a major hassle in car negotiations yet I see little in the way of online advice. Thank you

  • @andrewdunlop2966
    @andrewdunlop2966 Місяць тому +1

    Ray & Zach kicking tyres & taking names (aka data) 🇺🇸🎯😎

  • @emiliog.4432
    @emiliog.4432 Місяць тому +1

    Oem car parts are going up. The price for all parts have gone up and sometimes over msrp.

  • @dpajc056
    @dpajc056 Місяць тому +12

    How can people pay over 14% interest!? Thats INSANE!!! Here in Canada brand new car interest is about 6-7% and i think thats a deal breaker. Thats like $10k borrowing cost for something like a base Model 3 over 5 years. I just coudlnt do that to myself, but 14%...!!!? How is that LEGAL!!! THATS PREDATORY AF

    • @drbcrb
      @drbcrb Місяць тому

      In the early 80’s after Jimmy Carter rates were higher than 14% is the USA.

    • @EMichaelBall
      @EMichaelBall Місяць тому

      Central bank rates have huge sway over loan APR’s. 6-7% is pretty normal for where central bank rates are. It’s not much of a spread. 14% adjusts for potential delinquencies, pretty sad. Around 20% and up is predatory.

    • @laser31415
      @laser31415 Місяць тому +2

      Here "predatory" is considered the PayDay Loan places that 372% and higher, but it's legal. I think credit cards being able to charge 29% crazy, but that is the system we got.

    • @R0CKtheR3D
      @R0CKtheR3D Місяць тому +1

      Most people dont have 14%, thats just for those with bad credit. My credit union is offering 6% for people with just a tad above average credit.

    • @DeadAir21
      @DeadAir21 Місяць тому

      That high average is driven up by the subprime borrower. They typically can’t get loans through conventional lenders so many get financing through the used dealership themselves which comes with that high interest rate. And since my subprime borrowers aren’t financially educated, they don’t know they’re being prayed upon.

  • @Fearmocker
    @Fearmocker Місяць тому

    It's crazy to hear how nuts things have become. I've got 8k in equity with excellent cred. on my lease, it's up next March and I thought I wanted to look because I was in a good spot and there's no way I'm going to pay those apr's. not a chance.

  • @tomatowado3222
    @tomatowado3222 Місяць тому

    So when do I buy used?

  • @JanaINJax
    @JanaINJax Місяць тому

    Put a third timing belt on my 6th gen Honda Accord while waiting for the market to go down. The rear main seal finally failed at almost 300k miles, so I sold it. The money I've saved by not making car payments, waiting for the market to adjust has been the best decision I ever made and thanks to you guys. I would've lost $6,000 to market adjustment fees alone!

  • @ryanrodgers6969
    @ryanrodgers6969 Місяць тому +2

    Carmax has always overcharged for their vehicles yet they are still in business. So it seems like the consumer will never stop overpaying and Carmax will do just fine.

  • @burtoncrowell4371
    @burtoncrowell4371 Місяць тому

    Hey Ray it kind of sounds to me like CarMax needs to re-evaluate their pricing strategy and possibly offer about a $15,000 per vehicle discount if they want to clean the lot out

  • @ryanrodgers6969
    @ryanrodgers6969 Місяць тому +2

    Car max is making money so they are doing just fine. Care edge is losing their grift. I would short car edge.

  • @srdamman
    @srdamman Місяць тому

    Ironic to see this CarMax video as just this morning I was on Edmunds used and noted the most competitive dealer prices were coming from CarMax! I was researching '20/'21 Ford Escape. I took this as a positive indicator!

  • @wtlwoods
    @wtlwoods Місяць тому +2

    I just added myself to the Subaru customer base. Out the door at less than MSRP, 3.9% nothing down.

    • @tinymission7821
      @tinymission7821 Місяць тому

      Enjoy your new car! Subarus are terrific vehicles.

    • @wtlwoods
      @wtlwoods Місяць тому

      @@tinymission7821 I went to look at a Mazda originally and the store also sold Subaru. The Onyx version of the Ascent was main position in the lobby. I purchased a Limited Ascent. I think it's much better than the Mazda CX-90. Still adjusting to the cost though. I was out the door about 800 under MSRP. So not bad put not stellar.

  • @falconinflight6235
    @falconinflight6235 Місяць тому

    Always, excellent insight_

  • @GregKealey
    @GregKealey Місяць тому

    Does car edge have Canadian data too?

  • @amfitness5598
    @amfitness5598 Місяць тому

    I bought a used 2012 Ford Edge with 43K in October of 2015 for 17.5K (SEL trim level). Granted that was 9 years ago but similar cars in age and mileage now are going for over 30K…inflation in the used car market has gone bonkers. I’ll drive my current vehicles until they die…

  • @DR_Bloom86
    @DR_Bloom86 Місяць тому

    Cant imagine buying used right now with interest rates unless the price is havily discounted. spending more on new and getting a much better incentivized rates is the way to go.

  • @williamcoiner6019
    @williamcoiner6019 Місяць тому

    I don't know if you said this but the difference between new car financing vs used car financing. Usually get better financing on new car.

  • @Liferoad371
    @Liferoad371 Місяць тому

    Went to the new Carmax in my area in Calif. yesterday and wanted to check out an EV and they did not have
    even one on the lot, I was the only customer there and they had lots of Jeeps.

  • @hossman3000
    @hossman3000 Місяць тому

    Right Ray, I just wanted to add to it that new cars have a lower interest rate too

  • @mikeg2927
    @mikeg2927 Місяць тому

    I'd like to see a quick video on how you would handle ordering a new vehicle. I'm looking for a 2025 Yukon AT4 with a diesel. Something that has a decent demand. Do I have any leverage to ensure I'm not overpaying? Or am I at the whim of the dealer?

    • @EMichaelBall
      @EMichaelBall Місяць тому

      Caredge has buyer templates on their site.

    • @workoutwithrob1700
      @workoutwithrob1700 Місяць тому

      Yukons are in too high demand. If you don't buy the next person will

  • @GK_Squid
    @GK_Squid Місяць тому

    Last time i went to car max was 7 years ago. I got a 2015 honda fit with 40k miles for 13k.
    That same car today is going for 18k. I recently wrecked that fit and am looking for a new car but i sure as hell am not using carmax again because their prices are inflated.

  • @steveosgood9182
    @steveosgood9182 Місяць тому

    You guys are a well oiled machine now. Very slick and professional. You got Ray out of the salvation army T-shirts and looking good ( sorry Ray, I just had to rib you ) . Thumbs up and carry on.

    • @CarEdge
      @CarEdge  Місяць тому

      Steve, I've been trying to step up my game. I am so glad that you noticed. All the best, Ray

  • @dennissvitak5475
    @dennissvitak5475 Місяць тому

    How crazy is it that the average transaction price has dropped, hard, even though inflation is up? People are angry over what happened over the last two years.

  • @Aprilseahorse
    @Aprilseahorse Місяць тому

    I have spent over 50 days looking for a good used car in central Illinois. The good used cars are selling fast and at higher prices. Lots of junk cars are sitting on lots. I bought 2 used cars in the last 2 weeks and had to overpay them. The dealers in my area are not coming down on used cars. I also know 3 people looking for good used cars and not finding them.

    • @mi5tafreeman
      @mi5tafreeman Місяць тому +1

      Wow well good luck. Maybe try expanding your search area.

  • @guzmancharles7
    @guzmancharles7 Місяць тому

    My question is, are ppl looking when they go especially new car at the ‘LOT ROT’?. Probably am naive but when I see the rate goes down to close to 3.7% or close maybe I will change my mind.

  • @stonylawncottagepipe4429
    @stonylawncottagepipe4429 Місяць тому

    Wooaa! Time to shop😂

  • @heavycream6682
    @heavycream6682 Місяць тому

    I'm trying to buy a Miata and Carmax seems to own almost all of them and have the price jacked sky high!

  • @-Lily135-CHECK-MY-PROFILE
    @-Lily135-CHECK-MY-PROFILE Місяць тому +26

    *Your positivity brightened my day. Sending good vibes your way!* 😘

  • @JimmyLovesMundo
    @JimmyLovesMundo Місяць тому +2

    I just don’t own a car and opt to take Uber. Less hassle and less money when you factor in high insurance costs.

  • @timothythompson4036
    @timothythompson4036 Місяць тому +9

    Next year in 2025 used car prices will plummet. Why? Easy, lease returns. In 2022-23 dealers were pushing 24 month leases. Next year thise cars will be coming back. Next year used car prices will collapse. That's good!

  • @JUICYTBONE
    @JUICYTBONE Місяць тому

    I am mid 40s guy living in Northern Va area. I don't know if I should get a new, lease or used car. I don't own a car for trade in. I will wait until after tax season as suggested. What kind of car you suggest would be the best value? I appreciate your time.

    • @EMichaelBall
      @EMichaelBall Місяць тому

      Might be cheaper to not own a car. How do you get around now? Do you own a home? If so, is there a garage?

    • @paulb6736
      @paulb6736 Місяць тому

      Talk to someone with financial expertise please! Do not look for these twits to have anything of value in terms of advice. They’re just regurgitating the same gloomy garbage day after day trying to make a few UA-cam bucks.

  • @iati6294
    @iati6294 Місяць тому

    Lower car prices only makes sense if you buy cash otherwise you still pay premium after the interest rate.

  • @masterthedream9580
    @masterthedream9580 Місяць тому

    Dad is looking at averages and not seeing what is cming. That didn't work well at the end of 2007

  • @Blackhawk556.
    @Blackhawk556. Місяць тому +11

    Last month I got 4.9% for a 2021 RAV4 loan. I’m so glad I’ve kept up with my credit score.

    • @benjaminhollar7462
      @benjaminhollar7462 Місяць тому +2

      What’s your score?

    • @SmittyAZ
      @SmittyAZ Місяць тому

      @@benjaminhollar7462 You'll never get an answer to these, I got a smoking deal using the R and Z type method questions.

    • @HK-ur7hu
      @HK-ur7hu Місяць тому +1

      That's amazing.. I didn't know they would even offer that financing right now. My credit score is pretty good and I'm getting pre-approval for 8%.. so I'm holding off till either use car prices drop or interest rates.

    • @SmittyAZ
      @SmittyAZ Місяць тому

      @@HK-ur7hu Keep waiting. The crash is imminent since 2020.

    • @Blackhawk556.
      @Blackhawk556. Місяць тому

      @@benjaminhollar7462 equifax score 8 is showing as 834. I started a credit score instagram
      Account last year but it got hacked lol. It’s still visible but I can’t get into it anymore. I was going to give people tips and ideas but one day I suddenly lost access. No way to get it back. Oh well @theultimate800score

  • @shekharmoona544
    @shekharmoona544 Місяць тому

    CarMax CEO os going to have to make bold and drastic decisions. Clear out the high mileage vehicles at a 5% loss and bring in uses inventory that's lower in mileage and higher in profit. Rinse and repeat of need be by 1.5 percent in higher mileage units.

  • @ronj9124
    @ronj9124 Місяць тому

    It looks from your chart of wholesale prices that wholesale prices are something like 40% higher than they should be.

  • @aaronpetry715
    @aaronpetry715 Місяць тому +2

    Sales down 1% last 3 months. Profit down 5% last 3 months. So nothing changed. It will crash and it is. People just happy to get a vehicle at slight better prices now that have been waiting.

  • @LoveTropperMC8
    @LoveTropperMC8 Місяць тому

    Thanks!

    • @CarEdge
      @CarEdge  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much, you are way too kind. All the best, Ray

    • @LoveTropperMC8
      @LoveTropperMC8 Місяць тому

      @@CarEdge You're Welcome 😊 Learning a lot. Thank you 2 for caring enough to share your knowledge. 🤗

  • @mcduvall2000
    @mcduvall2000 Місяць тому +2

    I REALLY want a new (or used but newish) car or possibly truck. But I am still holding out until this insanity stops lol

    • @tinymission7821
      @tinymission7821 Місяць тому

      My advice is to take these videos with a grain of salt. Decide what vehicle(s) you want and watch the market. Exhaust every avenue possible. Know a good deal when you see it and be ready to act. I purchased my 2020 Frontier in June ‘23 for $23,500. KBB private party value on my truck exact vin number today is $26,480. Almost a year later. Good deals are always available if you are willing to go to the effort to stay alert. I searched for 4 months daily online everywhere. I looked at one truck in person, the one I bought. I knew it was an excellent deal if the vehicle was in great condition and lo and behold it was. I was able to negotiate down $1,500 and the deal took about 30 minutes. I bought from a “gas station” car lot. This is the second time I’ve purchased from these types of car lots. First time I bought a Toyota Tacoma. It lasted 16 years. A good vehicle for a good price is where and when you find it. Big dealer, little car lot, private party, look everywhere.

  • @BC-te9ow
    @BC-te9ow Місяць тому

    I don’t understand why people buy at carmax. Their prices are high. If it’s because of the “less stress” then what’s the difference in just accepting the listed price at a traditional dealer?

  • @calvincooper7827
    @calvincooper7827 Місяць тому

    Ive been watching the same car for over 2months now. Price hasnt changed AT ALL. And I just read a financial article that was written yesterday that talked about what a lucrative stock Carmax is. And their stock is up, again.

  • @frankwhite2650
    @frankwhite2650 Місяць тому

    Based on my three decades selling vehicles, I always watched what carry back lenders will finance. They are the buyers, not the people driving off the lot with a happy tag in the window.

  • @moreanimals6889
    @moreanimals6889 Місяць тому

    I have a super specific situational question. I am a millennial who has never had a car do too many things, financially and otherwise going wrong. I am planning to buy my first car this year. Before the end of the year I will only have a little less than $9,000 saved up for that purpose. Part of the reason, I don't have more saved is I have a parent who is living in their car. Some of my money has gone to help them go to car repairs so they end up in a worse situation. My goal is to get their car that is much newer and nicer for me, eventually a second car for them. Eventually, housing that solves everyone's problems. I make very little which makes saving doable but it takes a long time. Given what you are saying, should I go for it and get a car at the end of the year or keep waiting? I mostly keep going back and fourth on getting something that is actually new versus used or electric. I would love something electric but if I get something gas or used I can get a car sooner. If I get a vehicle cheap enough, I won't have to spend all this money and will have a cushion for car specific emergencies or nest egg towards the next savings goal.

    • @EMichaelBall
      @EMichaelBall Місяць тому

      You need to factor in insurance. Newer cars have horrendous insurance premiums. The only good way is a cheap gas car that is reliable. Something like a Corolla or something else very cheap and reliable. Hard to find. Not a fan of Honda for multiple reasons, their tendency to being targets for catalytic converter thefts being one reason.

    • @user-qy4pc1wm7k
      @user-qy4pc1wm7k Місяць тому

      Suggestions: Find out what taxes, tag fees, and title application would cost on an $8300 car where you live. That will help you know what will go to "transaction costs" and you can adjust your max price from that. I recommend surveying the market with your max price (or a little more if you can haggle). Take a friend with you when shopping in person to point out every negative they see (for your info and psyop on the seller). Don't get rushed and walk if it doesn't feel just right.

  • @sabgab
    @sabgab Місяць тому

    GOOD Damn pricess were too damned high just like real estate.

  • @TheIgnoramus
    @TheIgnoramus Місяць тому +1

    Subsidies keep business alive, but slows down the natural exchange of producers in the market, but at the cost of glut/waste/long term corruption and lack of competition and productive change in goods. As long as we allow our tax dollars to be funneled into these major businesses, we will never see a crash, until we’re all broke.

  • @pablolopez758
    @pablolopez758 Місяць тому

    Whats stopping the dealer from only financing new and leasing out used? Wouldnt they make more money that way?

  • @bp39047
    @bp39047 Місяць тому

    Carmax prices compared to Louisiana prices are much cheaper.

  • @DATo_DATonian
    @DATo_DATonian Місяць тому +1

    Just a guess on my part, but for about a third of a new car price you can probably recondition your current car to close to new car status. [EDIT] Don't forget to factor in taxes, depreciation, and additional insurance into the new car price.

    • @tinymission7821
      @tinymission7821 Місяць тому

      You have valid points. Taxes on my newer truck purchase were almost $1k. Insurance went from $357 every 6 months to $654 every 6 months. Personal property taxes will be higher too. Was $79 per year and probably will be $300 per year now. I expect and can afford the increased expenses but it is something to keep in mind. These extra costs over and above the sticker price do add up and are ongoing.

    • @DATo_DATonian
      @DATo_DATonian Місяць тому

      ​@@tinymission7821 Thanks for the comment. I have a 2007 Chevy Impala with only 120,000 original miles on it. The car is 17 years old but runs like a top. I've put new tires, battery and brakes on in the last couple of years, but other than a slight drip of oil I have no other problems of which I am aware. The body has its nicks and bumps, but it is for the most part very presentable for a 17 year old car and the interior is impeccable as I have always had seat covers on the seats and durable mats on the floor and I have, for the most part, been the primary occupant. Any new car I would replace it with I estimate would be in the $35,000 range. Now my car would only "BlueBook" for about $5000 and it might seem absolutely nuts to put $10,000 to $15,000 into it, but I know when I'm done I'm going to have a reliable vehicle. My personal property tax is only $45 / year and I wouldn't have to pay any sales tax. There would be no depreciation and my insurance costs are far lower now than they would be on a new car.
      I have a reliable and trusted mechanic and I'd just tell him to replace anything and everything that he feels should be replaced i.e. belts, hoses, fuel pump and filters, alternator, starter ... in other words shoot the moon. I don't need or want the fancy new crap they are putting on new cars which customers are paying through the nose for whether they want these things or not - I've never needed a camera to tell me what was behind me before, or to tell me where the lane lines are, or to tell me when to hit the brakes. I can truly say I love this Impala just the way it is presently configured. I need a car that can get me where I want to go reliably, safely, and in reasonable comfort; beyond that, I could care less about its age.
      [EDIT] I remember an old TV commercial for VW. This good-looking guy in a $3000 suit walks out of his mansion and the viewers can hear his thoughts as he climbs into his VW Rabbit - "I can afford to drive any car I want to. I can also afford not to." Well, minus the mansion, the good looks and the $3000 suit those are my sentiments exactly. 😉

  • @jamesmartinez4283
    @jamesmartinez4283 Місяць тому +1

    Insurance prices need to come down, Everything is in total chaos within the car market

  • @toomuchmonkeybusiness
    @toomuchmonkeybusiness Місяць тому +1

    I wish I had a dollar for every time a thumbnail says it's over. I'd be rich enough to go buy a new car with cash.

  • @brentlorrilliere6057
    @brentlorrilliere6057 Місяць тому

    so if everything is fine, and the answer to any problem is to inflate our way out of it, then we just need to print more money. no consequences that I have seen.

  • @DashaTheDivineDivah
    @DashaTheDivineDivah Місяць тому

    Unfortunately I have more had one dealer not want my 2 yr trade even though it's a wash and a Lexus with less than 40k miles...I think this is why

    • @EMichaelBall
      @EMichaelBall Місяць тому

      So keep er

    • @DashaTheDivineDivah
      @DashaTheDivineDivah Місяць тому

      @@EMichaelBall I would, but the trunk space is just way too small for my lifestyle.

  • @markrichards4042
    @markrichards4042 Місяць тому

    I was just there. Long from over.

  • @sandorvarga.6982
    @sandorvarga.6982 Місяць тому

    Success❤