Looking at all the comments and the wild discussions I just want to say there are more than one way to be an INFJ. There's multiple INFJ subtypes and variations and most people have only just scratched the surface of typology and are not able yet to look beyond it. What I see is many people will walk around youtube town, looking and comparing themselves to everyone they see of their own type, and will struggle deeply with the inconsistencies and differences. Here, we forget people within a personality type may be very different. But we will be tempted to hold on to the boxes we are used to and to discard any contradictions as others mistakes. We're so sure we are right here, that we are correctly typed, and everyone else must be mistyped. But resist the temptation to stereotype and learn to see more nuances. Then you will learn more about both yourself and others.
No disrespect dude, I generally have liked your videos, but you set yourself up. Your video is basically "Who is NOT an INFJ" - Sooo maybe not a good idea to now appeal to "putting the types in boxes" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Stereotyping is not 1:1 with Typology. And if it were, this video is a contradiction to your claim. If you are truly an INFJ, SOME of your descriptions in this video are inconsistent with general INFJ typology. If the INFJ descriptions you gave are true for you, don't be hesitant to re-evaluate your type. I'm sure your subscribers will still enjoy your vids. Again, I mean no disrespect.
while I disagree with there's more than one way to be an xxxx, because we might as well scrap mbti altogether, but I think the rest of what he was saying is even though the types have concrete function stacks all the types still have all the functions developed to certain degrees and still get used from time to time. They say hitler was an INFJ so does that mean all INFJs are like hitler ? But I do believe Eric did back track when trying to consider ppl's feelings, that's my issue with you feelers, " facts don't care about your feelings " If you want to be truthful you can not be biased, feelings by definition are biased.
Also, Fi is empathy not Fe, Fe is extroverted, how you display your emotion and to a lesser degree perceiving others emotion, being able to perceive emotion is not being able to understand emotion that is Fi, Fe can be manipulative or compassionate and Fi can be narcissistic or empathetic.
Erik Thor I love how you say “we” I use this type of language as well. This is beautifully said and I think we need to be prudent on fully learning and understanding each cognitive function, and how is behaves in each position. A person who truly wants to dive deep and understand oneself or others need to be somewhat critical and take time to cross reference and understand the nuances of each personality type and the shades of grey each type can come in.
Erik Thor also.. if you take these tests “in the moment” let’s face it.. you’re not an INFJ if you can’t see past your current state. Maybe a heavily depressed one will have impulse off Their current feelings but I never have an impulse based off my current state. I can always see how I’m supposed to be just not get myself There if that makes sense.
I accidentally had classical guitar music on Spotify in the background and it made this sound like a really inspiring motivational speech and it totally changed tone once I realised the music was not part of the video.
Glad you made this video man. Having bad experiences with manipulative people has absolutely nothing to do with being an INFJ, nor is emotional trauma a catalyst for jumping from one type to another. Being sensitive, empathic and idealistic does not automatically equate to 'INFJ', and I would urge people to explore the 16 types in greater depth - if you feel understood after resonating with a few points on an average INFJ type description, imagine how much better you will feel after having found your actual type :)
This is so true, when I got INFJ and started researching the crap out of it. I immediately got obsessed because it felt like for the first time in my life that I could somehow understand myself. Not because “I’m special and I’m the rarest type” (which probably isn’t true) but the fact I had a peace inside that I hadn’t felt before, from not only the way I know have an understanding of why I’m a “social chameleon” but also knowing that there are others like me and not alone in this world
I think the one thing I hate about the INFJ is that I never feel like i am one. I feel like nothing I feel, experience, that the way I live my life is a way that everyone lives their life. It's such a unique type and yet I cannot bring myself to truly identify as unique. Like...I genuinely love getting to know people, I want to be a psychologist so I can help people learn about themselves and grow, I love people, I love figuring out what makes everything tick, there are so many parts of it I can see myself in and yet...there's always that nagging question..."do you really?" As if some voice objects "How dare...!" I don't know if anyone else experiences that but I wanted to voice it. I appreciate the videos because it helps me figure myself out better, but sometimes it can be hard to accept that maybe you're just being critical of an reality you are just a part of.
I’m always afraid to be one of those people who say type as INFJ as a way to make them feel special so I don’t share it much, and I’ve retested 3 times over three different testing sites and got INFJ and I still doubt it about myself
I'm an INFJ yet I do research a lot, but more about what is the core reasons behind things (strong Ti perhaps). Maybe some (younger INFJs?) have an underdeveloped Ti. There's a wide spectrum to INFJs anyway.
INFJ thinking out loud True. I read an article on underdeveloped INFJs about a month ago and I discovered that until about a year ago I had all ten signs.
I love researching, I'm addicted to it. In writing I have to put imagination into it, to create pictures and sometimes full character fiction based on research. I think that's very INFJ
@Lin that is Te working on an orbit with Ti together. Ti analyzes internally but Te gathers the data. So for ixtps, extps, and exfjs that's how it works. For Ti child no given a lack of Te. not to confuse "research" with Ni curiosity btw I mean real Te research
I always tested as an INFP on traditional tests but that didn't quite fit so at the insistence of my friends (who were certain I'm an INXJ) I started studying the functions and testing myself and I'm DEFINITELY an Ni dom. Turns out I'm actually an INFJ but I have ADHD so the structured, timely, organized qualities of J are inhibited. My mom had a similar problem where she tested as ESFP (which is SO not like her), but when we tested her functions, she turned out to very clearly be an ESFJ. This is why I encourage people to look into their functions :).
Oh man, I can completely relate. I was diagnosed with ADD (inattentive type) in elementary school. I always felt like a weird outcast and 'space cadet' as I would be doing things like drawing mazes when other kids were playing sports at recess. I have a habit of taking on a lot of responsibilities, and planning is not my strong suit but I always need a plan! And i'm great at contributing to and guiding plans, but I can't really do it by myself. I ended up taking on enough responsibilities to become a manager and found myself developing and modifying the processes of my part of the organization. You know, developing checklists and forms and stuff. My internal world is disorganized and I often ended up jumping from task to task trying to help as many people as possible, so these organizational helpers were more for my sake, to keep me grounded on each task because if they weren't there I would forget what I was doing and what I was supposed to do. I am often aware of what I am thinking, but not always aware of what others are thinking, so I tend to ask them a lot 'What do you think about X'? Or I will tell someone something they already know (just to ensure that we're all on the same page) which can offend them sometimes. Conversely, i'm not always aware of what I am feeling, but I am aware of what others are feeling. This has a lot to do with my processes. Thinking, introverted (self-aware, but not so much other-aware). Feeling, extroverted (not self-aware, more other-aware). At one point I related with both the INTJ (Ni dom) and INTP (Ti dom) profiles because Ni and Ti are a large part of who I am.
Thanks. I'm add as well and also Infj. I'm the more withdrawn Infj type that tends to use Ni and Ti more. Which makes sense. Very introverted so value my introverted functions more. Feeling unsafe in Detroit
Too much extroverted sensing and extroverted feeling leads to ADD/ADHD in INFJ'S. If you are ruled my your inferior function, it weakens you. Find a way to tame the Se and you will be able to focus and grow into a healthy INFJ.
I get very deep melancholy and nostalgia emotions. I don’t really ever discuss this. Ppl just say move forward. But I’m wired on automatic pilot with these emotions . I’m too sensitive and empathic and have to get into my head to distract me.
That's a very Fi-Si thing. Cognitive Personality Theory defines Ni and Si as this: Ni is a broad, prolific view of the internal world, where as Si is a focused view in the internal world. The same applies with extroverted functions. Ne has a broad view of the outer world, and Se has a focused view on the outer world. This is why Ne over Si users like INxPs and ENxPs are so good at brainstorming, yet so bad at staying organized. Si is primarily responsible for keeping things in order, and is why so many effective institutions are in place. xSxJs are maintainers, and xNxPs are brainstormers. xSxPs are doers, and xNxJs are visionaries.
All personality types can do everything. It's more of a preference of cognitive functions really. I'm infj. I'm not an intelectual. I like to think alot about things? Yea. I like to play with imagination. That's about it. That Fe mainly makes me feel offended easier. Tribe validation and all that. We're not special snowflakes or anything. I'm infj... And that's about it.
Very good! I often question being an infj...as I second guess many other things , like my own decisions. Met my first other infj in real life for the first time, and was astonished at our differences.
Mmmm K..... To add to the conversation, I have issue with some of the comments. I’m an INFJ, in my youth I was a T sub type (turbulent)over the years as I gained life experience I began to evolve, at my core I still test as an INFJ but now I test as an A sub type (assertive). In my day to day life I speak in riddles, metaphors, wax philosophical, and what not, but in my professional life, where that kind of thing does not reach my audience I adjust to a more direct straight forward method of communication to reduce the confusion amongst the people I am advising and educating. Those who are saying Erik is not an INFJ should take a step back for a second. In teaching and communicating to an audience, you use your own personal experiences and the experiences of others to provide anecdotal information to establish a level of commonality to better send and receive information. He talks about his value system because it is a tool to provide perspective to the audience. I use this method myself when teaching classes, it doesn’t change my MBTI or his...... it’s adaptive behavior through experience and it can be draining because it doesn’t feel natural. INFJs like patterns and routine and get frustrated when things get changed without warning, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t like change or like to experience things or explore.... it just means we like to do them at our own pace in our own way which can be confusing to people. An example.... when you are in a social situation and having a good time, get the thousand yard stare because you have hit your limit, your friends look at you and ask if you are all right.... you respond back.... Yeah... no, I’m good, but I’m out ttyl and take off to a “quieter” situation.
A place of truth vs. a place of kindness. A lot of what you described put me in the INFP envelope, but in the end the pursuit of kindness puts me way over the edge into INFJ. "How do I take everything in the world and package it?" What a question. That is really, really me. I am always taking ideas and presenting it with love in some weird homemade theoretical package. That's why I teach music! I was having doubts at whether I really fit this type but you've really hit the best points for me.
I may or not be INFJ, but I do know I don’t like being put into any kind of box. I’ve never fit into any linear definition ever. I’m s mass of contradictions. What do u think of my view here? Would love to know. Thank you. You are very balanced in this explanation.
Lara O'neal if you are worried about fitting into a MBTI box, then you don't quite get MBTI. They are not meant to be understood as boxes to put you in. They are simply basic, general psychological patterns that form your cognition and personality. They do not define who you are. They describe you in part, not total. They are, as it were, the foundation of your personality.
I know 2 years late, but that's just F Fi is about personal morals and feelings Fe is about others feelings Both are about feelings, and both are run through a person. Think of the FJ being like a coffee filter, and emotions are the coffee, you cant brew it, either Fe or Fi without running it through the filter. INFJs, while having Fe, have a strong set of morals and ethics, maybe not the same as lets say, an INFP, but as an F type, they are in touch
Based on this video and your experiences, i relate to the INFJ experiences way more than the INFP.i have taken almost 7 different online tests several times and i have been tested as an INFJ all the times. However, I still tend to question myself whether i am an INFJ and get skeptical about these online tests. However, i have some personal experiences i would like to share and I would like any kind soul who expertises in personalities to clarify with me or tell me my real personality. Most of the times, when I am outside, I tend to act very reserved. Whenever i’m in a new setting, i.e a new class or circle of people, i tend to keep myself reserved away from other people and get stuck in my own thoughts anout society and different things. However, as soon as someone approaches me and starts talking, i feel much more comfortable and start being very nice to them and become much more talkative when i get closer to them. And in my school, i tend to have various circle of friends with whom i have different personalities when talking to each one of them. However, I feel like i am merely putting on a show to them and not being myself as if i were to be myself, no one would understand me or get along with me. That is why i tend to be well known by all my friends but am actually very close to only 3/4 friends in school. However, after school/public gathering, i feel much more at ease as i tend to go back into my deep thoughts and feel like i am finally who i am as i go back home. when i go back home, i tend to find myself much more happy inside than i was in school/outside, as i start thinking/doing the things i really enjoy doing. But that does not mean i hate social interactions. i do appreciate social interactions a lot, as it gives me insight to everyone, but i feel inner harmony when im alone and not outside. I rarely talk about my true self or emotions to my closest of friends, or even my family members, as i dont think they will understand me, and always seem to have an internal conflict in my head at all times when with people. My goal in life is to finish this life by completing a purpose not only for me, but for humanity in a way which is original to me and not like what anyone has done before. Now that I am done saying this, i am still skeptical whether i am an INFJ as am I really an INFJ?
I love your brain man! You really put it all together so well here, full picture of it all. So refreshing to listen to and in a way interact with someone who really knows the deal, at the core and in depth and with great overall insight(s), and also maintaining a great way of expressing this to others to interpret. Quality Erik, quality ! :)
at our best and complete version of ourselves, i believe we would be able to access all the 8 functions and truly ascend as a human being and with that threshold of virtue and knowledge, we'd see existence at it's true nature and purpose because truly all the answers to all the big questions in the universe is within..first step fellow INFJs, start counting each blessing you have and be grateful to it. be grateful in the ability of seeing patterns, be grateful for having a comfortable bed to sleep on and be grateful for the safety and be grateful for waking up healthy in the morning, be grateful for the ability to understand people at such depth. continue with counting the blessings and being grateful for them and you shall see a difference in time and hopefully at least one infj will manage to steer this world of ours to safety as its moving fast and dependently on an uncharted horizons of technology and materialism...peace and love.
you've taken my words and interpret it into your own understanding and your own limitation of time and space of where you occupy as a being, same thing can be said when we think and imagine God with our limited confounded knowledge and lifespan and then we take it as a fact. as in the modern age we imagine E.T with our limited knowledge and confinement to our visible dimensions. and on top of all these ego created by mankind if God had not created us with a certain hearing frequency would life exist as we know it?! and what if God made speed of winds moving across the globe at a constant 500 MPH would life and our confined reality would have existed as we know it?! we cannot put things such as existential as life to certain frames (MBTI, Socionics and Enneagram) and take it as a concrete fact about a human being, that's why i said count your blessings and you shall see a difference..final note, Carl Jung himself did not want people to dwell on typology and walk around classifying people, he wanted it to be a stepping stone into understanding the self and build upon that..peace and love.
mun aljabry This is so true. I am open with my type but I cannot be painted into a box, no one can. I value all. The “common” man, the complicated man. Simplicity and complexity. In fact all complex things are simple in form beyond the veil. I wake up in discovery everyday. No expectations. Free. No fear. Connected on, not only a mass level, but individually as well. We are inwardly the same heart, all of us. The common thread of the human condition. If you can exist completely at the heart level you recognize all, you value everything, or at least this is how the world looks from this side of existence. My personal journey and experience thus far living beyond the veil. For me I feel reborn, seeing the world through the eyes of a child. Open, completely open. People, I no longer fear them, I embrace them. I love them. I no longer fear myself. I understand my reflection so well. Clarity is powerful. I seek solace in harmony with time. I am so thankful I am still here to see. To see the world this way. I hope more will get there too, I wholeheartedly do. I have always said, peace may indeed come after completing a thing. We complete we, I, she, and he. Eternal spirals. Even double helixes invisible to the naked eye. There are no lines to be drawn, and there never was. It’s an illusionary construct of this realm in which we dwell physically.
Self-knowledge is knowing what you're good at and knowing what you're not good at. Accepting your strengths and limitations. This is why Jung designed his theory the way he did, with superior and inferior functions. But you want to go against that, providing empty promises of reaching full potential through all 8 functions? Wrong, you develop through developing your strongest 1-2 functions and mitigate the damage of the other archaic and unconscious inferior functions so that they don't cause harm. The human brain cannot handle multiple conflicting cognitive processes at once. This Jung himself states clearly in Psychological Types and this is also confirmed by modern neuroscience. Thinking that you're good at everything, or that you have unlimited potential, shows evidence of denial of the Jungian Shadow. The dark, surpressed and unconscious bad sides of the personality. No, INFJs will not be good at all cognitive functions. No, INFJs do not have unlimited potential. No, INFJs are not more divine than any other type. INFJs have natural strengths and natural weaknesses like all other types. Thus, INFJs should develop in accordance to their natural preferences (like all other types). Don't preach about God to people you don't know. You have no idea of mine (or other peoples) spiritual knowledge nor spiritual awareness. If you think you can judge a person based on one sentence, you're ignorant.
Introspective Insights Introspective Insights you have an impasse going on here. I agree with all that. No one was talking about God here. I understand you taking it in in that way. We do have faults and are VERY imperfect. What I am referencing is an experience. My own personal perception of the world has changed. It used to look completely opposite to me. It sounds as if you are obviously projecting your inner insecurities onto me, if it even was me you were responding to? Impasse to me is, I said something that I own therefore my meaning is my own. You can get another meaning altogether but that doesn’t mean it relates to my context or narrative unfortunately. I own it, me.I subscribe to my own meaning. I do not subscribe to your meaning of me. Does this register?
You are right! Mistyping is more common than we think. I always thought I was probably an INFJ but recently found that I am actually an ENFJ. This has been so eye opening to me and I am finally starting to understand some of my struggles, as well as being able to find some new perks 😉✨and it's all thanks to high quality, in-depth content such as this 🙌🏽♥️
My best friend is an infj, and we’ve come to the same conclusion, that we both remind each other that we are not aliens on earth, and there are other people who have similar internal structure to us, mentally. Do you have any close intj friends as an infj?
My husband is an INTJ. Yes, our Ni is a great connection, two lone wolves in a big sea of imagined theory. The struggle is the Fe/Te. INFJ are bristled by Te and INTJ are by Fe. I work to remind him of this because he takes in my Fe, personally, and I remind him that I'm just being expressive like theatrics and it's not about him. I have to remind him a lot. Even just, say, listening to music and dancing or just goofing around, he can get uncomfortable. And I remind him that I don't need to be told how to do something. His Te wants to be right and put forward a system that may not fit me and I won't satisfy his Te, ever. I wonder if INTJ is irritated with INFJ more than vice versa. INFJ just slips away when there is too much Te. And my husband is like, just give me a list and a schedule and I'm like, 'make your own list.' I see INTJ as squares and rectangles and INFJ as spirals and waves. So, INFJ/INTJ we need our separate space to be ourselves again, beyond the Ni.
This was immensely relatable. Most especially when it came to the idea of following a path and of not always being able to express where exactly you're going but being certain you ARE headed somewhere. I see things as leading to a grand event, both in my own path and in the world at large. If I consider that things might not really be leading to any particular point, it's actually quite distressing, as it removes a sense of there being a point to any of it at all.
Great one bro! Thank you for shedding the light. Us INFJs aren't weirdos or psychopaths, though there are definitely some who are but so are the other types. It's more about how we were nurtured and not because of the type. I especially like the way you describe INFJs as leaders. I myself head our sales and marketing department and always love to play with my imagination trying to assemble everything in my mind to come up with something original that I present to my team.
Impressive. Thank you for confirming who we truly are. What you said actually confirms that we are often overlooked-yet-true leaders, not givers nor victims, just a quiet force with uncommon priorities and qualities. Thus an INFJ at her or his best wouldn't be normally targeted by predators, except in times of distress, and even then, we would be very aware of the situation very quickly. The urge to make the world a better place on a grand scale, by dispensing kindness efficiently where we can while pursuing our most genuine passions, really is the smallest common denominator to our collective ultimate goals, even if it's probably the major reason why we don't come across as strong as we really are! Most people mistake kindness with weakness, you know. ;) But although we see it, it doesn't affect our values.
Introverts commonly learn to perform whenever they address the outside world. This created persona is usually based on the best interpersonal performers they know or have seen. This is even more relevant for people who make videos as a living or serious hobby. So no, I don't think you can call a fake INFJ on sight.
“Phrasing truth kindly, and if it will help them.” This resonates a lot with me. I like to think of kindness as somewhere in between “nice” and “honest”. It is possible to be nice, but cruel, putting socially accepted traditions and niceties above practicality can hurt people in the long term. It is possible to be honest, but rude, putting your own bold perspective of the truth out there but in a way that makes it more likely not to help motivate people in the short term. I find myself consistently balancing introverted intuition and extraverted feeling a lot in this way. Over analyzing with introverted thinking... I often wish I was more like an INFP. Great video, thanks for sharing. Giving me lots to think about.
If Erik Thor says he is an INFJ , then I respect that, He knows himself better than anyone. Therefore, if he says he is an INFJ--He is! I might have gotten an epiphany from some of your comments, thank you.
Thanks Martin. I think everyone has a right to choose for themselves who they are, and while they may be wrong, its their journey to find themselves. We can only guide them in that process.
do you think it would be better to do personality tests (especially those measuring cognitive functions) from the perspective of being happy? like how would i act when i'm happy (and confident) vs what i very naturally do? for example, many tests have a question regarding public speaking. usually i stutter and can be _insanely_ nervous prior to giving a presentation, but then again i have some experiences when i really "went out there" and felt very empowered and good after giving that presentation or talk. same goes with speaking to people in general - i usually see myself as rather introverted, even shy, but then again there are many very happy and warm experiences with sharing my thoughts with other people. it almost seems like i get good experiences any time i use what i see as my weaker parts. then again, maybe that happiness or flow comes because i feel good after challenging myself and growing, not because that's who i am? is the "confident me" what could be closer to my "real me"?
OK, this is one of those kinds of videos a persons needs to watch at least five times and take notes and analyze for quite some time :-D Very insightful! Great many thanks! I do have this need to look for truth and ultimate answers, but observing people and situations definitely comes more naturally to me than engaging with people... You really made me think a lot :-)
Really love the part where you talk about 'a path'. The sense of wanting to go somewhere. Gawd how I relate to that as an INTJ. I use to have pictures of a long dark tunnel with light at the end of it on my desktop. I even have used the nickname Tunnel Light in video games, because I always want to perceive myself walking on my destiny towards some future state of light. //TB, INTJ
I did, but now I'm too stoned & lost interest! 😂 I know I'm an INFJ, not from just the tests, but doing 100's of hours of research into the subject, & slowly dissected myself to it's bare core, then analyzed myself. I feel these stupid online tests are rigged into making damn near EVERYONE think they're INFJ, I mean we're the rarest type, but then why does most the content on UA-cam cater to the INFJ???
An eternal search for information about so much, I cannot understand why people are often not curious about and not question and research matters, whereas they just accept anything that is told to them But this is mostly my internal process not any kind of public platform. I find social occasions stressful although I can be sociable too, but it is a relief to finally get home.
3:41 - At the best version of myself, I see myself as an innovative leader with a strong, wonderful vision for the future who cares about the people around him first and foremost, and the betterment of the community second, and the mission third; as a caring teacher and mentor who invests everything he has into improving the lives of others, using psychology and inventive methods to teach them things that they will need to know in the future as best I can. Is there an MBTI for that?
Sometimes I feel like I am trapped inside my head and can't get out. It's so much easier to stay in because it's so much bigger and real. Do you ever feel like you are watching the world a second later than u see it? Like you see things but instead don't actually understand what you're seeing until later and then you without even thinking about have this idea of whats going on inside your head, but you didn't even know how you got that idea because you're not even paying attention to the words people are saying? It feels like there's a worm or something inside my head and its making me wierd and stuff. And I've always had this grand vision of myself that's impossible to explain to anyone. I can see my whole life before me like it already happened, like life is just a big pattern that keeps repeating, how everything is connected and its all one big picture. I don't know if I'll ever become what I want to become, but whatever does happen will be whats supposed to happen and what's always happened. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about?
Defining the way is difficult but most certainly a destination- how you arrange/organize is crucial in relation to the destination- not the destination!
I feel like I am a resercher and a leader at the same time... I really love gathering information and I can't stop doing it if I know I can do something with it. Because I know that someday in the future I will need that information to take action. But, at the same time I might not go on the street to test my theories because I prefer to only create some.
So as an infj, I find myself constantly picturing the perfect scenario for everything. Dating is pointless although I crave the deep connection I know who my perfect person is, so one wrong push; being gripped at, really anything, will push me away. As far as work goes I am a carpenter i started 2 years ago by myself thought myself everything and now run 3 crews. I'm drivin nuts by the people who can sit there waiting for things to happen. I have to be the best to guide the others if I feel I fall short of this my mind obsesses over it I push until I'm better. I love living in the moment very spontaneous only cuz I like to let go from time to time. It's so hard to shut my head up but when I engulf myself in nature or knowledge I'm able to do just that. Still learning myself but let me know if you relate
I'm afraid of dying alone, that's my worst fear. That is the only reason I dont like this personality....I always wondered all my life why am I this way. Then I realized I'm a good loving person that's the main thing that matters, so I thought God made me this way, so I except it. 3 years ago I watched videos about H S P's which is the same as a INFJ. I come to realize that we're UNIQUE, a sensitive nervous system like CARING to much. I think this is a gift from God that we were born with. I dont fit in anywhere always bullied all my life even till now ppl try and it really pisses me off, to the point where I need to be aggressive, then I carry guilt, we are to hard on ourselves and we're complicating. In my head I back tract episode of my life yes I am one of you very mysterious, deep thinkers, ect. Great video brother I cn relate word for word. We all need to find a deserted island and have our own country of INFJ's
Erik, this video was very clarifying and helpful. I'm at a crossroads in my life and maybe that is why I am trying to understand myself better through typing, in order to find what will make me happy. I had to laugh at myself when you said we need to figure out what will make us happy in order to know what our true type is. It's the old "what came first , the chicken or the egg?" Obviously, I am simply going to have to do the hard work of figuring out what to do with my life. Thank you, and keep up the good work.
I don't know what would be worse. Recognizing you are a real infj, or coming to the conclusion that you've just been manipulated your entire life by phycopath's. I think personaly true injf's are the one's who have not just tested as so, but have done the work to not only study the meaning of it, the idea of it, and have come to understand what the personality test actually is. I have a simplistic youtube channel, and I have been sitting on an open account wanting to sahre multiple idea's, and share m views and thoughts. But, I have prograstinated to the point of reanalyzing just how to go about it, wether or not my opinions matter. I have written everything done, I have planned it, I have had my vision of what it could be not only to others, but to myself. I considered myself to be other type's, an continuously bound back to I am simply a damaged infj. I have watched countless video's trying to build onto my own idea's, and watched how smooth and flowing everyone else seems to be, and end having more conversations inside my head verse's with other people. Through watching video, I have opened up more and just let it out, vs. yet another mis opportunity that just keeps passing me by because I can't settle on this idea that I havent thought it all out. Till the point I am simply spilling out, and then I feel bad because I am commenting on someone else's video...LMAO
Perfectionist paralysis? I just saw a video about it and it sounds like what you are having maybe. It's perfect in your mind but in execution you are afraid you can'tmatch your vision or visualized outcome (how it's accepted, if it's going to make a positive difference, etc ).
I had no idea what type or category I fell into until a few months ago and realised that there were other people like me. I had a narcisstic mother and she told me when I was quite young that I was imperfect and that she would take me to a psychologist. I am an introvert, I like to strive for perfection from myself and like rules of law and logic. I can have passionate conversations with a complete stranger on a subject on which we are both mutually interested. I have a detached personality which has served me well in my work. I do ghost people who are harmful to me and others. I am an observer, I prefer this, rather than to being the centre of attention, which I find distressing. I believe in truth and light and I believe in do not tell me you are good, show me. I think before I say something. Words are like bullets, you cannot take them back.
I am an INFJ and I have a tendency to dive in to other people‘s experiences with both empathy and compassion and help them on their path forward. This is what you are describing with ENFJs. What is the relationship between INFJ/ENFJ? I wonder where the confusion is coming from or if that’s just a developed aspect of myself that overlaps with the latter?
Fair enough. I see your point there and having to take a different test and still end up as an INFJ as a result i am still confused why they always say something like INFJ are weak and very empathic people altho yeah i get drained when i am in a crowded places that's given but i have to do more research about it because i don't want to label myself as an INFJ and ended up not being one or i just try to fit my shoes being as one because it's rare. I think if you're a real INFJ you would not want to jump into a conclusion right away that you're one of them because deep inside you, you don't care whatever personality you end up with as long as you know deep inside you it's the truth and a fact. Namaste!
yes! I can so identify with all you have shared here! You even use terminology that I have so often used myself, such as using the analogy of "peeling an onion". I can't tell you how often I have thought that or said it over the years. lol Too funny. Well, I am smiling after hearing you, and I am thinking wouldn't it be neat to be able to have a sort of round-table meeting/discussion of INFJs of different ages, at different points in their life experience? I'd love to see that... INFJs at say, age five, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, sixy and seventy. I am almost sixty, now. I will tell you this. When I was younger, I was extremely goal-oriented. I was always setting up goals for myself, particularly academic goals, but I can see how I did this in most areas of my life. It is so easy to see all these patterns in retrospect! lol Well, I can tell you that now, what I see is that all of my striving in life has led me right back to where I began as an individual. I am very much celebrating being the same girl I was at age five. I finally gave myself permission to just BE what I am in the moment every day. I am very peaceful and happy overall, and I would love to hear the life experiences of other INFJs. I would love to hear how many others my age feel the same way that I do and about the paths that led them "home". Though I am much the same gal I was when I was younger in many ways, one of the things I am NOT anymore is striving to do or accomplish anything. I feel like a cat does, I imagine, when it falls and lands on its feel and then just casually looks around, walks to the nearest sunbeam and curls up there to relax and purr. ;) What a lovely feeling to know fully that all you are meant to be you always were and still are, and all you have to "do" is be it as fully and with as much integrity as one can. :)
Its apart of who you are. You could have multiple personality types mixed, its hard pinpoint which is which. Its taken me five year's pinpoint my personality type , the trick is don't listen to others use your own intuition and guidance. Experiences. Try and not judge yourself but learn about yourself, I'm an infj empath also a taurus sun rising libra Luna moon and a linith moon virgo, your astrology placements at birth and who is in your charr at the time of birth also ads to your personality type. 🙏💛❤️ I found many faults with my self as well as good things. Dont hold on to your faults but learn from them. Thank you for these video's they're helping, please don't shut me out or block me I'm still learning. 💜 🙏
I found that my, infj mind, seams to collect a lot of particles of information and when it is complete it stores it until needed. I have taught myself to look around me always, but not pay attention because my brain will pick it up. I have many of conversations and or situations that I have answers to questions and I don't know where the information came from.
Here I how I discovered I am an INFJ, Is I watched a video and felt like I stepped into my native tounge, omgd I understood the person's body language, their bloopers in sharing the personality traits, I understood what they were trying to say under what they were saying. I even said I GET YOU! I Felt a relief. Like there are others who understand my language. I do not have to explain the silent retreat or loss of social interest during my alone time or the struggle of I love ppl but LOVE and have to be alone. I like being inside of myself, but never knew it was normal. I feel like I finally fit. I do not have to try to alter these things to appear normal. The discovery brought more self acceptance, it has brought more enlightenment. I've been taunted about being to sensitive, however truth is ppl drain me after a while, and I need a break. I want to socialize but sometimes I have to retreat. I called it resting bitch face when really I was content to be inside myself and observe. I pick up on shit that others are oblivious to and I didnt know why they couldn't see it. Those that didn't see it looked at me like I'm nuts. I thought maybe I had anti social traits. When REALLY it's my personality. So when we are misunderstood and our parents do not know how to connect with us it can be damaging to say the least. I am free now to embrace myself more fully, connect with my authenticity because I am not alone and others with this personality traits get me and I get them and I no longer have to explain myself. I'm social but I love alone, I'm want to go out but really am a homebody. I love helping ppl but have to retreat. Thank God I have found my tribe!
I can pinpoint in a matter of seconds, in person or online who is or may be mistyped in terms of infj. Intuitive intelligence. Working from your heart line is effortless. It isn’t a state of mind, it’s a state of existence. I am also 5w4 and have weird empath abilities across distances. It only happens when the thoughts are pointed at me or projected out to me. This isn’t the same as being empathetic although I feel that too. I don’t have any agency over this ability and pinpointing the inner “contemplation” of others is obscure. Otherworldly. The only way I can describe it is an inner construct change, like a flash. I could be neutral and all the sudden take on another’s thoughts. The only reason I am fully self aware of this is because of me doing it with my family and friends online. Also intjs are the only ones who are radio silent for me. It’s so hard to put into words as they can often escape linguistic approach for me. I connect you with swanlike silence and the ravens run over my shoulders here. Iseen.
Thank you for your beautiful explanation about our idealist group of people. I love hearing you talk about us ENFP‘s, but also the ENFJ, INFP and of course INFJ‘s. ✨🙏🏼✨
So... I kinda lost my personality... And I'm an INFJ... How do I find my personality back? Do I look at other people how they are... Or do I have to look inside myself somehow?
I’m getting things done! I am a leader who does not want to lead people. I agree. I like to make people feel special and empowered. Encourager.....who leads myself.....I have many animals I ask of them to be independant! Do your own thing. And it’s OK
Very true! I recently watched a Jung video and he didn't think it was wholly reliable to "type" oneself because it varied greatly through someone's life. I think beneath every person we're all seeking purpose and understanding and community, or even desperate to find uniqueness we feel we lack so these MBTI types make people feel comfortable or heard within their personalities.
Hi Erik nice Video Really Good Insight in the inner thought of an infj I Think of myself at the Moment as an infj but i'm not Sure of that cause i diden't Talk to anybody About this. At first it made me a little insecure About it cause sometimes i doubt myself being an infj. But in the end i realize it diden't make any difference i am what i am and that's fine. In your Video i recognized myself a lot i don't want to be the healer or Helper cause i don't want to Interrupt other People in there doing cause they bring so much effort in there doing i don't want them to let it be for nothing. So instead of telling them the truth i decided to lead them i an different direction and show them how they can achieve there goals.
I have been struggling with my type. I have tested as INFP, but when I start on the road to learning more about INFP I find that I don't feel it fully fits me. I want to figure this out. I want to know what I am. I want to know why I am the way I am. I want to understand.
Just take a real personality test, evaluated by a psychologist. It will go deeper into why you are that way etc.. you’ll get one on one talks.. even if they don’t necessarily rate you a 4 letter personality type.. you will learn a lot. Taking it alongside of a IQ test will help the psychologist better determine how or why your personality is how it is.. hope this helps.
I can say there are many reasons people's personalities can be formed into being introverted. We all need to be excepted in society to some degree.I hear what means a lot to you so I can relate.
I'm using the introverted intuition as dominant function, connecting thoughts and feelings deep witch create intense expression witch comes from extroverted feelings, looking for the truth and evidence witch I believe comes from introverted thinking to the best of my ability based on the surroundings witch comes from extroverted sensing of what is going on in the reality of a situation. Sometimes I get critical because I don't believe certain things because I can see clear with my introverted intuition as some kind of abstract/x-ray vision (Ni-Ti connection). It's complex. - INFJ type 5w4 mixed with 5w6 (investigator) and again mixed with 6w5.
Hi Erik! On the Myers Briggs test I was equally (or almost equally, I can't remember) rated on the introversion / extroversion scale, but there is no question in my mind I am an introvert. Don't understand that. Is there some cross-over type? I am completely comfortable with the INFJ description and feel like it fits me, just curious about the extroversion score being so close when I'm clearly not an extrovert.
Carl Jung was deeply critical against dichotomy tests. He believed no person was just an introvert, or just an extrovert, so such tests will never give you a correct result. He believed there were four kinds of introverts and four kinds of extroverts. So you are better of finding your preference there. Introverted intuitives that like to understand the world theoretically, as an abstraction. Introverted sensors that like to understand the world practically, defining and categorising things. Feelers, that like to understand the world intropersonally, as feelings and motivations, or Introverted thinkers that see the world logically. Take my test here: www.erikthor.com/test/erik-thor-type-indicator-etti/
Spot on. Thank you. I only came to understand this about myself this week. I identify with infj completely and partly with enfj is this possible to be more than 1?
There are some collisions in values in that INFJs have internalised introverted intuition and feeling where ENFJs have internalised extroverted intuition and feeling. INFJs perceive theories and intention as something that comes from inside, where emotions and possibilities come from other people. ENFJs perceive patterns and emotions as something that comes from within, from yourself, where intentions and theories are found in the world around you. Think: INFJ: My theories & My Intentions, or ENFJ My Patterns ,& My Feelings.
Ok. I see that. I am realising this much later than I would have liked to have in my life. All that matters for me now is I know now. You sound like you have been observing these aspects to self for a long time. I identify as an INFJ. Doing what makes me happy, yes, its very simple when I can see it. haha Thank you again for helping me. I am a little clearer.
Well....I know myself!I am not an INFJ I am in fact an INFP However whenever I take personality tests,I always come out as 49% judgemental.Which might be why I am able to relate to most aspectects of an INFJ.However,still doesn’t gets me away from the fact that I cannot handle scheduling.
I think I am an INFJ, but I'm not positive. Everything I do must have a reason or I don't do it. So is that part of the INFJ personality type? And you also said that if your direction keeps changing or you have to keep taking different paths to achieve your goals, that you are more likely to be an INFP. Please let me know if I misunderstood that. 😊 I have a set goal that I want to achieve however my path to get there had to change, not because I wanted it to, but because what I was originally doing to get to my goal didn't end up working and I had to do something else that I didn't really want to do but I did it because it was the only thing I could do that would get me to my end goal. I thought the Infjs were goal oriented and would do what ever they had to do to achieve their goal even when it was difficult (which would include changing their way of getting to their goal if the original way didn't work). So is that something an INFJ or an INFP would do? I'm pretty sure that I'm either an infp or an infj, but I am unsure exactly which. If anyone could help me out with this, I would really appreciate it. Figuring out my personality and who I am and trying to make sense of why I do what I do has been important to me for many years and I would really like to know if I am an infj or infp 😊 Ok, I took the test after I posted this comment and it said I was an INFJ. But I would like to hear others thoughts and opinions on this 😊
lol I'm now having an identity crisis.... I commented on your Carl Jung video the other day, and mentioned that I'm an INFP...(It's what I keep landing on whenever I start to question whether that's right), but I took the personality test on 16personalities.com a couple of days ago and my results came up INFJ. At first, I just figured it was because "how accurate can a quick quiz truly be?"...and figured it was probably wrong. But I cannot altogether rule it out because I identify with BOTH! Even my results in the different categories of the test, where they give percentages, many of those categories were 40/60 meaning, I believe, that I'm only "slightly introvered", and "slightly everything else". I thought I'd watch this video to help me rule out INFJ once and for all, but I'm sitting here laughing because I care A LOT about "Truth"...but also care a lot about kindness. It's mostly through experience that I've come to feel that Truth is a higher value, and that there's always a way to be kind and respectful while speaking the truth. In fact, often feel that it's often actually "unkind" NOT to speak the truth (and the sooner the better!), even if that means some short-term "discomfort" might be the result. I wonder if a person can be 'perched" almost in the center of two different types. This may be a silly question...I don't have a lot of knowledge on the whole MBTI...Only an interest.... Or.....I wonder what it was you were saying about how people's experiences can result in a false INFJ typing....You didn't say much about that or the potential mechanisms by which that might occur.
Thanks (A LOT!) Erik.....Now I'm having a triple identity crisis! lololol Your test results gave me "ENFP"... I think these tests are really only a way to point you in a general direction. On many questions, I found myself wanting more options....particularly one right between "somewhat agree" and "somewhat disagree" (such as, "Well, it depends on the situation/person/mood I'm in) and of course all of these answers are relative to whatever "norm" we are comparing ourselves to in the moment we answer. I really think I started out as an INFP...maybe I'm a dysfunctional one due to growing up with more dominant "thinkers"...or maybe a "more" functional one due to being forced to develop my inferior thinking function....I do feel I've done a lot of adapting to my surroundings (the world, the family), just out of necessity in order to protect what's most important to me. I just re-read the instructions "Take this personality test to find out your personality type when you are in a state of flow"...and I'm wondering if this means I should take the test when I'm in a state of flow, or whether it means the results should indicate my true "in flow" type... Maybe taking the test when I'm slightly stressed out affected my results? I'll try again another time :)
O.k.....Did a bunch more investigating...watching videos and the differences between Ni/Ne , Si/Se, Ti/Te and Judging/Perceiving....and more videos that compared INFPs with INFJs...and then your video comparing INFPs with ENFPs.......all with the idea of "how I am when I'm in a state of flow.....All have led, again, to INFP......aaaaand......I took your test today because I'm far more relaxed and "in flow" today than I was last week....and I got an "INFP" result this time. BTW...one of the videos I watched actually said that INFPs often question whether they truly are INFPs....as if that's one way to know. Not sure I believe that but I thought it was funny if nothing else.
I have a simple question how do you know your an infj it's easy to say you are and understand what it is but I would like to know what make you believe you are vs idolizing infj and trying to conform to the perception you have of infj. As well infjs are not robots experience and life changes how we all react and interact with what ever personality traits we have so be careful not to over judge people based on your personal belief and to find the core facts from every angle you can frist not just the ones you like then inform from there
its been a small journey to discovering that im actually an infj and not, as tested before, infp or enfj. understanding the functions is really important to be able to type yourself. my mom always insisted that im an alpha, a close friend that im the perfect politician archetype concerning being diplomatic. i never understood what they meant until recently.
I don’t know why trying to type myself is so important to me, but I’ve been trying to properly pinpoint it for a while. I still haven’t gotten anywhere! I can relate to several types in the same amount. It’s frustrating because i need closure from this before I can do other things like studying, which is annoying because I have exams coming up
I've started a monalong with all of the people I know, an the people who mean something in my life. So that I/they can better understand themselves so a common goal, and a better relationship can be reached. Do you think that there is anyone out there working on a better testing system so that the testing can bring out truer results?
INFJ is a way for a person to make sense of the actions they take. My title is a christian. I follow GOD and his wisdom. I have many gifts and give GOD all the credit. I am but a vessel for GOD to do his works.
I'm either an infj or no type. No other type can fit. I tried so hard to try and check if I was a different type and convince myself however I came back here. My infp sister said I was definitely an infj I should just accept it and move on to other things.
Honest to black Jesus, I can't figure out what the hell type I am. I usually test as an INTJ or INTP, but am about half and half feeling and thinking, and half and half perceiving and judging (according to multiple quizzes). I am a female, and according to statistics, 70% of women test as feelers instead of thinkers. But recently in taking quizzes that distinguised differences between each one of the types, I scored way more INFJ than INTJ. That being said, I do value logic over people's subjective feelings because people's subjective feelings when triggered are usually based on unhealed emotional wounds that warrant turning inside to figure out the trigger versus thinking their subjective emotions define the truth of the external situation they experienced. However, I am an empath and absorb peoples' emotions like an INFJ. I'm an acupuncturist who uses crystals and lasers on the table. I like helping people, but in a kind of methodical non-sentimental way as if I overly involve myself emotionally in peoples situations- my own emotions will get the best of me, and I feel like I need to be impartial and detached to keep my vibration up to give people good healing or wisdom. Despite knowing a lot about occult psychology and metaphysical reality, on a one-on-one basis, I will only reveal what I know if I feel like a person needs or will be receptive to the information. People are constantly asking me for advice, but I am reluctant to insert myself into other peoples' hot mess situations as I could literally spend half my time being an advisor for free if I indulged all the people who supposedly 'need me' over the years. So I am endeavoring to develop systems and menus of offerings to have a way to funnel people into a reciprocity of time for money because one of the worst stings and betrayals I have felt in the past were being used for my generosity- only to find out that that was about all people wanted from me. I think reciprocity is probably a great idea for INFJs to consider...... in giving their time and energy...... will they feel okay or used if that energy is not reciprocated? Do they have the bandwidth to help for free, or will it distract them from their own projects?
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Looking at all the comments and the wild discussions I just want to say there are more than one way to be an INFJ. There's multiple INFJ subtypes and variations and most people have only just scratched the surface of typology and are not able yet to look beyond it. What I see is many people will walk around youtube town, looking and comparing themselves to everyone they see of their own type, and will struggle deeply with the inconsistencies and differences. Here, we forget people within a personality type may be very different. But we will be tempted to hold on to the boxes we are used to and to discard any contradictions as others mistakes. We're so sure we are right here, that we are correctly typed, and everyone else must be mistyped. But resist the temptation to stereotype and learn to see more nuances. Then you will learn more about both yourself and others.
No disrespect dude, I generally have liked your videos, but you set yourself up. Your video is basically "Who is NOT an INFJ" -
Sooo maybe not a good idea to now appeal to "putting the types in boxes" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Stereotyping is not 1:1 with Typology. And if it were, this video is a contradiction to your claim. If you are truly an INFJ, SOME of your descriptions in this video are inconsistent with general INFJ typology. If the INFJ descriptions you gave are true for you, don't be hesitant to re-evaluate your type. I'm sure your subscribers will still enjoy your vids. Again, I mean no disrespect.
while I disagree with there's more than one way to be an xxxx, because we might as well scrap mbti altogether,
but I think the rest of what he was saying is even though the types have concrete function stacks all the types
still have all the functions developed to certain degrees and still get used from time to time. They say hitler
was an INFJ so does that mean all INFJs are like hitler ? But I do believe Eric did back track when trying to
consider ppl's feelings, that's my issue with you feelers, " facts don't care about your feelings "
If you want to be truthful you can not be biased, feelings by definition are biased.
Also, Fi is empathy not Fe, Fe is extroverted, how you display your emotion and to a lesser degree perceiving others emotion, being able to perceive emotion
is not being able to understand emotion that is Fi, Fe can be manipulative or compassionate and Fi can be narcissistic or empathetic.
Erik Thor I love how you say “we” I use this type of language as well. This is beautifully said and I think we need to be prudent on fully learning and understanding each cognitive function, and how is behaves in each position. A person who truly wants to dive deep and understand oneself or others need to be somewhat critical and take time to cross reference and understand the nuances of each personality type and the shades of grey each type can come in.
Erik Thor also.. if you take these tests “in the moment” let’s face it.. you’re not an INFJ if you can’t see past your current state. Maybe a heavily depressed one will have impulse off
Their current feelings but I never have an impulse based off my current state. I can always see how I’m supposed to be just not get myself
There if that makes sense.
I accidentally had classical guitar music on Spotify in the background and it made this sound like a really inspiring motivational speech and it totally changed tone once I realised the music was not part of the video.
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Glad you made this video man. Having bad experiences with manipulative people has absolutely nothing to do with being an INFJ, nor is emotional trauma a catalyst for jumping from one type to another.
Being sensitive, empathic and idealistic does not automatically equate to 'INFJ', and I would urge people to explore the 16 types in greater depth - if you feel understood after resonating with a few points on an average INFJ type description, imagine how much better you will feel after having found your actual type :)
This is so true, when I got INFJ and started researching the crap out of it. I immediately got obsessed because it felt like for the first time in my life that I could somehow understand myself. Not because “I’m special and I’m the rarest type” (which probably isn’t true) but the fact I had a peace inside that I hadn’t felt before, from not only the way I know have an understanding of why I’m a “social chameleon” but also knowing that there are others like me and not alone in this world
I think the one thing I hate about the INFJ is that I never feel like i am one. I feel like nothing I feel, experience, that the way I live my life is a way that everyone lives their life. It's such a unique type and yet I cannot bring myself to truly identify as unique. Like...I genuinely love getting to know people, I want to be a psychologist so I can help people learn about themselves and grow, I love people, I love figuring out what makes everything tick, there are so many parts of it I can see myself in and yet...there's always that nagging question..."do you really?" As if some voice objects "How dare...!" I don't know if anyone else experiences that but I wanted to voice it. I appreciate the videos because it helps me figure myself out better, but sometimes it can be hard to accept that maybe you're just being critical of an reality you are just a part of.
Same I constantly doubt my type even though I always return to INFJ after lurking through all the 16 types
I’m always afraid to be one of those people who say type as INFJ as a way to make them feel special so I don’t share it much, and I’ve retested 3 times over three different testing sites and got INFJ and I still doubt it about myself
I'm an INFJ yet I do research a lot, but more about what is the core reasons behind things (strong Ti perhaps). Maybe some (younger INFJs?) have an underdeveloped Ti. There's a wide spectrum to INFJs anyway.
INFJ thinking out loud True. I read an article on underdeveloped INFJs about a month ago and I discovered that until about a year ago I had all ten signs.
I love researching, I'm addicted to it. In writing I have to put imagination into it, to create pictures and sometimes full character fiction based on research. I think that's very INFJ
@@scrillion6 research is very Te and a joy to infps. Just saying.
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@Lin that is Te working on an orbit with Ti together. Ti analyzes internally but Te gathers the data. So for ixtps, extps, and exfjs that's how it works. For Ti child no given a lack of Te. not to confuse "research" with Ni curiosity btw I mean real Te research
I always tested as an INFP on traditional tests but that didn't quite fit so at the insistence of my friends (who were certain I'm an INXJ) I started studying the functions and testing myself and I'm DEFINITELY an Ni dom. Turns out I'm actually an INFJ but I have ADHD so the structured, timely, organized qualities of J are inhibited. My mom had a similar problem where she tested as ESFP (which is SO not like her), but when we tested her functions, she turned out to very clearly be an ESFJ. This is why I encourage people to look into their functions :).
lots of INFJs can have adhd, its not related to P at all as some think. :)
Oh man, I can completely relate. I was diagnosed with ADD (inattentive type) in elementary school. I always felt like a weird outcast and 'space cadet' as I would be doing things like drawing mazes when other kids were playing sports at recess. I have a habit of taking on a lot of responsibilities, and planning is not my strong suit but I always need a plan! And i'm great at contributing to and guiding plans, but I can't really do it by myself. I ended up taking on enough responsibilities to become a manager and found myself developing and modifying the processes of my part of the organization. You know, developing checklists and forms and stuff. My internal world is disorganized and I often ended up jumping from task to task trying to help as many people as possible, so these organizational helpers were more for my sake, to keep me grounded on each task because if they weren't there I would forget what I was doing and what I was supposed to do. I am often aware of what I am thinking, but not always aware of what others are thinking, so I tend to ask them a lot 'What do you think about X'? Or I will tell someone something they already know (just to ensure that we're all on the same page) which can offend them sometimes. Conversely, i'm not always aware of what I am feeling, but I am aware of what others are feeling. This has a lot to do with my processes. Thinking, introverted (self-aware, but not so much other-aware). Feeling, extroverted (not self-aware, more other-aware). At one point I related with both the INTJ (Ni dom) and INTP (Ti dom) profiles because Ni and Ti are a large part of who I am.
Thanks. I'm add as well and also Infj. I'm the more withdrawn Infj type that tends to use Ni and Ti more. Which makes sense. Very introverted so value my introverted functions more. Feeling unsafe in Detroit
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Too much extroverted sensing and extroverted feeling leads to ADD/ADHD in INFJ'S. If you are ruled my your inferior function, it weakens you. Find a way to tame the Se and you will be able to focus and grow into a healthy INFJ.
I get very deep melancholy and nostalgia emotions. I don’t really ever discuss this. Ppl just say move forward. But I’m wired on automatic pilot with these emotions . I’m too sensitive and empathic and have to get into my head to distract me.
Lara O'neal INFP
That's a very Fi-Si thing. Cognitive Personality Theory defines Ni and Si as this:
Ni is a broad, prolific view of the internal world, where as Si is a focused view in the internal world. The same applies with extroverted functions. Ne has a broad view of the outer world, and Se has a focused view on the outer world.
This is why Ne over Si users like INxPs and ENxPs are so good at brainstorming, yet so bad at staying organized. Si is primarily responsible for keeping things in order, and is why so many effective institutions are in place. xSxJs are maintainers, and xNxPs are brainstormers. xSxPs are doers, and xNxJs are visionaries.
I've taken the Personality tests all over the internet. Over the years and i always come up as either an INFJ, INTJ or an ISTJ.
All personality types can do everything. It's more of a preference of cognitive functions really. I'm infj. I'm not an intelectual. I like to think alot about things? Yea. I like to play with imagination. That's about it. That Fe mainly makes me feel offended easier. Tribe validation and all that. We're not special snowflakes or anything. I'm infj... And that's about it.
RasputinTheGamer I love your user name. Just had to stop by and say that. Thanks for the laugh.
“We can’t kill this guy... WTF!?”
Feeling offended and valuing it sounds more like Fi not Fe.
@@nicholasjh1 Fe definitely gets offended
@@nocando89 I never said they don't
@@nicholasjh1 Uhm, so, Fe doesn't get offended? Interesting.
Very good! I often question being an infj...as I second guess many other things , like my own decisions. Met my first other infj in real life for the first time, and was astonished at our differences.
Mmmm K..... To add to the conversation, I have issue with some of the comments. I’m an INFJ, in my youth I was a T sub type (turbulent)over the years as I gained life experience I began to evolve, at my core I still test as an INFJ but now I test as an A sub type (assertive). In my day to day life I speak in riddles, metaphors, wax philosophical, and what not, but in my professional life, where that kind of thing does not reach my audience I adjust to a more direct straight forward method of communication to reduce the confusion amongst the people I am advising and educating.
Those who are saying Erik is not an INFJ should take a step back for a second. In teaching and communicating to an audience, you use your own personal experiences and the experiences of others to provide anecdotal information to establish a level of commonality to better send and receive information. He talks about his value system because it is a tool to provide perspective to the audience. I use this method myself when teaching classes, it doesn’t change my MBTI or his...... it’s adaptive behavior through experience and it can be draining because it doesn’t feel natural.
INFJs like patterns and routine and get frustrated when things get changed without warning, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t like change or like to experience things or explore.... it just means we like to do them at our own pace in our own way which can be confusing to people. An example.... when you are in a social situation and having a good time, get the thousand yard stare because you have hit your limit, your friends look at you and ask if you are all right.... you respond back.... Yeah... no, I’m good, but I’m out ttyl and take off to a “quieter” situation.
A place of truth vs. a place of kindness. A lot of what you described put me in the INFP envelope, but in the end the pursuit of kindness puts me way over the edge into INFJ.
"How do I take everything in the world and package it?" What a question. That is really, really me. I am always taking ideas and presenting it with love in some weird homemade theoretical package. That's why I teach music!
I was having doubts at whether I really fit this type but you've really hit the best points for me.
I may or not be INFJ, but I do know I don’t like being put into any kind of box. I’ve never fit into any linear definition ever. I’m s mass of contradictions. What do u think of my view here? Would love to know. Thank you. You are very balanced in this explanation.
Lara O'neal if you are worried about fitting into a MBTI box, then you don't quite get MBTI. They are not meant to be understood as boxes to put you in. They are simply basic, general psychological patterns that form your cognition and personality. They do not define who you are. They describe you in part, not total. They are, as it were, the foundation of your personality.
@@criticaloptimist7961 TRUTH.SOOO REFRESHING.NOT JUST WERDZ.
You actually seem Fi-ish to me :)
Strongly valuing your own emotions sounds more like Fi not Fe. Which is not FJ at all.
Yeah, my impression too.
I know 2 years late, but that's just F
Fi is about personal morals and feelings
Fe is about others feelings
Both are about feelings, and both are run through a person. Think of the FJ being like a coffee filter, and emotions are the coffee, you cant brew it, either Fe or Fi without running it through the filter. INFJs, while having Fe, have a strong set of morals and ethics, maybe not the same as lets say, an INFP, but as an F type, they are in touch
Wow! This was such a powerful message! Thank you.
Beautiful approach: What are you like when you're happy. The aswer to that should lead to more happiness.
“5 Signs you can’t join the special snowflake club”
Based on this video and your experiences, i relate to the INFJ experiences way more than the INFP.i have taken almost 7 different online tests several times and i have been tested as an INFJ all the times. However, I still tend to question myself whether i am an INFJ and get skeptical about these online tests. However, i have some personal experiences i would like to share and I would like any kind soul who expertises in personalities to clarify with me or tell me my real personality.
Most of the times, when I am outside, I tend to act very reserved. Whenever i’m in a new setting, i.e a new class or circle of people, i tend to keep myself reserved away from other people and get stuck in my own thoughts anout society and different things. However, as soon as someone approaches me and starts talking, i feel much more comfortable and start being very nice to them and become much more talkative when i get closer to them. And in my school, i tend to have various circle of friends with whom i have different personalities when talking to each one of them. However, I feel like i am merely putting on a show to them and not being myself as if i were to be myself, no one would understand me or get along with me. That is why i tend to be well known by all my friends but am actually very close to only 3/4 friends in school.
However, after school/public gathering, i feel much more at ease as i tend to go back into my deep thoughts and feel like i am finally who i am as i go back home. when i go back home, i tend to find myself much more happy inside than i was in school/outside, as i start thinking/doing the things i really enjoy doing. But that does not mean i hate social interactions. i do appreciate social interactions a lot, as it gives me insight to everyone, but i feel inner harmony when im alone and not outside.
I rarely talk about my true self or emotions to my closest of friends, or even my family members, as i dont think they will understand me, and always seem to have an internal conflict in my head at all times when with people.
My goal in life is to finish this life by completing a purpose not only for me, but for humanity in a way which is original to me and not like what anyone has done before.
Now that I am done saying this, i am still skeptical whether i am an INFJ as am I really an INFJ?
I'm quite familiar with All what you said, however.. I took the test and I'm sometimes infp and other times infj.
I love your brain man! You really put it all together so well here, full picture of it all. So refreshing to listen to and in a way interact with someone who really knows the deal, at the core and in depth and with great overall insight(s), and also maintaining a great way of expressing this to others to interpret.
Quality Erik, quality ! :)
what you are when you are happy,those words sums it all up,very insightful, i love your channel keep it up:)
at our best and complete version of ourselves, i believe we would be able to access all the 8 functions and truly ascend as a human being and with that threshold of virtue and knowledge, we'd see existence at it's true nature and purpose because truly all the answers to all the big questions in the universe is within..first step fellow INFJs, start counting each blessing you have and be grateful to it. be grateful in the ability of seeing patterns, be grateful for having a comfortable bed to sleep on and be grateful for the safety and be grateful for waking up healthy in the morning, be grateful for the ability to understand people at such depth. continue with counting the blessings and being grateful for them and you shall see a difference in time and hopefully at least one infj will manage to steer this world of ours to safety as its moving fast and dependently on an uncharted horizons of technology and materialism...peace and love.
All 8 functions, i.e., becoming God?
you've taken my words and interpret it into your own understanding and your own limitation of time and space of where you occupy as a being, same thing can be said when we think and imagine God with our limited confounded knowledge and lifespan and then we take it as a fact. as in the modern age we imagine E.T with our limited knowledge and confinement to our visible dimensions. and on top of all these ego created by mankind if God had not created us with a certain hearing frequency would life exist as we know it?! and what if God made speed of winds moving across the globe at a constant 500 MPH would life and our confined reality would have existed as we know it?! we cannot put things such as existential as life to certain frames (MBTI, Socionics and Enneagram) and take it as a concrete fact about a human being, that's why i said count your blessings and you shall see a difference..final note, Carl Jung himself did not want people to dwell on typology and walk around classifying people, he wanted it to be a stepping stone into understanding the self and build upon that..peace and love.
mun aljabry This is so true. I am open with my type but I cannot be painted into a box, no one can. I value all. The “common” man, the complicated man. Simplicity and complexity. In fact all complex things are simple in form beyond the veil. I wake up in discovery everyday. No expectations. Free. No fear. Connected on, not only a mass level, but individually as well. We are inwardly the same heart, all of us. The common thread of the human condition. If you can exist completely at the heart level you recognize all, you value everything, or at least this is how the world looks from this side of existence. My personal journey and experience thus far living beyond the veil. For me I feel reborn, seeing the world through the eyes of a child. Open, completely open. People, I no longer fear them, I embrace them. I love them. I no longer fear myself. I understand my reflection so well. Clarity is powerful. I seek solace in harmony with time. I am so thankful I am still here to see. To see the world this way. I hope more will get there too, I wholeheartedly do. I have always said, peace may indeed come after completing a thing. We complete we, I, she, and he. Eternal spirals. Even double helixes invisible to the naked eye. There are no lines to be drawn, and there never was. It’s an illusionary construct of this realm in which we dwell physically.
Self-knowledge is knowing what you're good at and knowing what you're not good at. Accepting your strengths and limitations. This is why Jung designed his theory the way he did, with superior and inferior functions. But you want to go against that, providing empty promises of reaching full potential through all 8 functions? Wrong, you develop through developing your strongest 1-2 functions and mitigate the damage of the other archaic and unconscious inferior functions so that they don't cause harm. The human brain cannot handle multiple conflicting cognitive processes at once. This Jung himself states clearly in Psychological Types and this is also confirmed by modern neuroscience.
Thinking that you're good at everything, or that you have unlimited potential, shows evidence of denial of the Jungian Shadow. The dark, surpressed and unconscious bad sides of the personality. No, INFJs will not be good at all cognitive functions. No, INFJs do not have unlimited potential. No, INFJs are not more divine than any other type. INFJs have natural strengths and natural weaknesses like all other types. Thus, INFJs should develop in accordance to their natural preferences (like all other types).
Don't preach about God to people you don't know. You have no idea of mine (or other peoples) spiritual knowledge nor spiritual awareness. If you think you can judge a person based on one sentence, you're ignorant.
Introspective Insights Introspective Insights you have an impasse going on here. I agree with all that. No one was talking about God here. I understand you taking it in in that way. We do have faults and are VERY imperfect. What I am referencing is an experience. My own personal perception of the world has changed. It used to look completely opposite to me. It sounds as if you are obviously projecting your inner insecurities onto me, if it even was me you were responding to? Impasse to me is, I said something that I own therefore my meaning is my own. You can get another meaning altogether but that doesn’t mean it relates to my context or narrative unfortunately. I own it, me.I subscribe to my own meaning. I do not subscribe to your meaning of me. Does this register?
You are right! Mistyping is more common than we think. I always thought I was probably an INFJ but recently found that I am actually an ENFJ. This has been so eye opening to me and I am finally starting to understand some of my struggles, as well as being able to find some new perks 😉✨and it's all thanks to high quality, in-depth content such as this 🙌🏽♥️
My best friend is an infj, and we’ve come to the same conclusion, that we both remind each other that we are not aliens on earth, and there are other people who have similar internal structure to us, mentally. Do you have any close intj friends as an infj?
My husband is an INTJ. Yes, our Ni is a great connection, two lone wolves in a big sea of imagined theory. The struggle is the Fe/Te. INFJ are bristled by Te and INTJ are by Fe. I work to remind him of this because he takes in my Fe, personally, and I remind him that I'm just being expressive like theatrics and it's not about him. I have to remind him a lot. Even just, say, listening to music and dancing or just goofing around, he can get uncomfortable. And I remind him that I don't need to be told how to do something. His Te wants to be right and put forward a system that may not fit me and I won't satisfy his Te, ever. I wonder if INTJ is irritated with INFJ more than vice versa. INFJ just slips away when there is too much Te. And my husband is like, just give me a list and a schedule and I'm like, 'make your own list.' I see INTJ as squares and rectangles and INFJ as spirals and waves. So, INFJ/INTJ we need our separate space to be ourselves again, beyond the Ni.
I have many close INTJs in my life and I admire INTJs greatly. My grandpa was one and he became my primary role model in life.
It's not about who you are, it's about who you could be. Be the person you want to be. Be the change you want to see in other people.
This was immensely relatable. Most especially when it came to the idea of following a path and of not always being able to express where exactly you're going but being certain you ARE headed somewhere. I see things as leading to a grand event, both in my own path and in the world at large. If I consider that things might not really be leading to any particular point, it's actually quite distressing, as it removes a sense of there being a point to any of it at all.
Great one bro! Thank you for shedding the light. Us INFJs aren't weirdos or psychopaths, though there are definitely some who are but so are the other types. It's more about how we were nurtured and not because of the type. I especially like the way you describe INFJs as leaders. I myself head our sales and marketing department and always love to play with my imagination trying to assemble everything in my mind to come up with something original that I present to my team.
The mere fact that 16 personalities are supposed to fit 8 billion people shows that personality types are very broad categories
Impressive. Thank you for confirming who we truly are.
What you said actually confirms that we are often overlooked-yet-true leaders, not givers nor victims, just a quiet force with uncommon priorities and qualities. Thus an INFJ at her or his best wouldn't be normally targeted by predators, except in times of distress, and even then, we would be very aware of the situation very quickly. The urge to make the world a better place on a grand scale, by dispensing kindness efficiently where we can while pursuing our most genuine passions, really is the smallest common denominator to our collective ultimate goals, even if it's probably the major reason why we don't come across as strong as we really are! Most people mistake kindness with weakness, you know. ;) But although we see it, it doesn't affect our values.
Introverts commonly learn to perform whenever they address the outside world. This created persona is usually based on the best interpersonal performers they know or have seen. This is even more relevant for people who make videos as a living or serious hobby. So no, I don't think you can call a fake INFJ on sight.
“Phrasing truth kindly, and if it will help them.” This resonates a lot with me. I like to think of kindness as somewhere in between “nice” and “honest”. It is possible to be nice, but cruel, putting socially accepted traditions and niceties above practicality can hurt people in the long term. It is possible to be honest, but rude, putting your own bold perspective of the truth out there but in a way that makes it more likely not to help motivate people in the short term. I find myself consistently balancing introverted intuition and extraverted feeling a lot in this way. Over analyzing with introverted thinking... I often wish I was more like an INFP. Great video, thanks for sharing. Giving me lots to think about.
If Erik Thor says he is an INFJ , then I respect that, He knows himself better than anyone. Therefore, if he says he is an INFJ--He is!
I might have gotten an epiphany from some of your comments, thank you.
Thanks Martin. I think everyone has a right to choose for themselves who they are, and while they may be wrong, its their journey to find themselves. We can only guide them in that process.
do you think it would be better to do personality tests (especially those measuring cognitive functions) from the perspective of being happy? like how would i act when i'm happy (and confident) vs what i very naturally do?
for example, many tests have a question regarding public speaking. usually i stutter and can be _insanely_ nervous prior to giving a presentation, but then again i have some experiences when i really "went out there" and felt very empowered and good after giving that presentation or talk. same goes with speaking to people in general - i usually see myself as rather introverted, even shy, but then again there are many very happy and warm experiences with sharing my thoughts with other people. it almost seems like i get good experiences any time i use what i see as my weaker parts. then again, maybe that happiness or flow comes because i feel good after challenging myself and growing, not because that's who i am?
is the "confident me" what could be closer to my "real me"?
Beautiful video. Thank you!
I still can’t tell wether I internalize feeling or externalize
I love your analysis. Nothing is foolproof.
OK, this is one of those kinds of videos a persons needs to watch at least five times and take notes and analyze for quite some time :-D Very insightful! Great many thanks! I do have this need to look for truth and ultimate answers, but observing people and situations definitely comes more naturally to me than engaging with people... You really made me think a lot :-)
Really love the part where you talk about 'a path'. The sense of wanting to go somewhere. Gawd how I relate to that as an INTJ. I use to have pictures of a long dark tunnel with light at the end of it on my desktop. I even have used the nickname Tunnel Light in video games, because I always want to perceive myself walking on my destiny towards some future state of light. //TB, INTJ
I like the tunnel metaphor alot too. I used it a lot when I was a kid when I was thinking about things :)
I have no idea of what he is talking about..
I did, but now I'm too stoned & lost interest! 😂 I know I'm an INFJ, not from just the tests, but doing 100's of hours of research into the subject, & slowly dissected myself to it's bare core, then analyzed myself. I feel these stupid online tests are rigged into making damn near EVERYONE think they're INFJ, I mean we're the rarest type, but then why does most the content on UA-cam cater to the INFJ???
An eternal search for information about so much, I cannot understand why people are often not curious about and not question and research matters, whereas they just accept anything that is told to them But this is mostly my internal process not any kind of public platform. I find social occasions stressful although I can be sociable too, but it is a relief to finally get home.
3:41 - At the best version of myself, I see myself as an innovative leader with a strong, wonderful vision for the future who cares about the people around him first and foremost, and the betterment of the community second, and the mission third; as a caring teacher and mentor who invests everything he has into improving the lives of others, using psychology and inventive methods to teach them things that they will need to know in the future as best I can.
Is there an MBTI for that?
Sounds INFJ to me, but explore options and see how you fit into other types as well :)
Sometimes I feel like I am trapped inside my head and can't get out. It's so much easier to stay in because it's so much bigger and real.
Do you ever feel like you are watching the world a second later than u see it? Like you see things but instead don't actually understand what you're seeing until later and then you without even thinking about have this idea of whats going on inside your head, but you didn't even know how you got that idea because you're not even paying attention to the words people are saying? It feels like there's a worm or something inside my head and its making me wierd and stuff.
And I've always had this grand vision of myself that's impossible to explain to anyone. I can see my whole life before me like it already happened, like life is just a big pattern that keeps repeating, how everything is connected and its all one big picture. I don't know if I'll ever become what I want to become, but whatever does happen will be whats supposed to happen and what's always happened.
Does anyone else know what I'm talking about?
My guess is INFP.
Defining the way is difficult but most certainly a destination- how you arrange/organize is crucial in relation to the destination- not the destination!
I feel like I am a resercher and a leader at the same time... I really love gathering information and I can't stop doing it if I know I can do something with it. Because I know that someday in the future I will need that information to take action. But, at the same time I might not go on the street to test my theories because I prefer to only create some.
I need also to organize all this information and give it a purpose because if I can't find one there is no meaning in learning all that information
That sounds like Ni-Te to me! (NTJ) :)
So as an infj, I find myself constantly picturing the perfect scenario for everything. Dating is pointless although I crave the deep connection I know who my perfect person is, so one wrong push; being gripped at, really anything, will push me away. As far as work goes I am a carpenter i started 2 years ago by myself thought myself everything and now run 3 crews. I'm drivin nuts by the people who can sit there waiting for things to happen. I have to be the best to guide the others if I feel I fall short of this my mind obsesses over it I push until I'm better. I love living in the moment very spontaneous only cuz I like to let go from time to time. It's so hard to shut my head up but when I engulf myself in nature or knowledge I'm able to do just that. Still learning myself but let me know if you relate
I'm afraid of dying alone, that's my worst fear. That is the only reason I dont like this personality....I always wondered all my life why am I this way. Then I realized I'm a good loving person that's the main thing that matters, so I thought God made me this way, so I except it. 3 years ago I watched videos about H S P's which is the same as a INFJ. I come to realize that we're UNIQUE, a sensitive nervous system like CARING to much. I think this is a gift from God that we were born with. I dont fit in anywhere always bullied all my life even till now ppl try and it really pisses me off, to the point where I need to be aggressive, then I carry guilt, we are to hard on ourselves and we're complicating. In my head I back tract episode of my life yes I am one of you very mysterious, deep thinkers, ect. Great video brother I cn relate word for word. We all need to find a deserted island and have our own country of INFJ's
Erik, this video was very clarifying and helpful. I'm at a crossroads in my life and maybe that is why I am trying to understand myself better through typing, in order to find what will make me happy. I had to laugh at myself when you said we need to figure out what will make us happy in order to know what our true type is. It's the old "what came first , the chicken or the egg?" Obviously, I am simply going to have to do the hard work of figuring out what to do with my life. Thank you, and keep up the good work.
I have really come to value your videos and opinions. Thank you!! ❤
I don't know what would be worse. Recognizing you are a real infj, or coming to the conclusion that you've just been manipulated your entire life by phycopath's. I think personaly true injf's are the one's who have not just tested as so, but have done the work to not only study the meaning of it, the idea of it, and have come to understand what the personality test actually is. I have a simplistic youtube channel, and I have been sitting on an open account wanting to sahre multiple idea's, and share m views and thoughts. But, I have prograstinated to the point of reanalyzing just how to go about it, wether or not my opinions matter. I have written everything done, I have planned it, I have had my vision of what it could be not only to others, but to myself. I considered myself to be other type's, an continuously bound back to I am simply a damaged infj. I have watched countless video's trying to build onto my own idea's, and watched how smooth and flowing everyone else seems to be, and end having more conversations inside my head verse's with other people. Through watching video, I have opened up more and just let it out, vs. yet another mis opportunity that just keeps passing me by because I can't settle on this idea that I havent thought it all out. Till the point I am simply spilling out, and then I feel bad because I am commenting on someone else's video...LMAO
Perfectionist paralysis? I just saw a video about it and it sounds like what you are having maybe. It's perfect in your mind but in execution you are afraid you can'tmatch your vision or visualized outcome (how it's accepted, if it's going to make a positive difference, etc ).
I had no idea what type or category I fell into until a few months ago and realised that there were other people like me. I had a narcisstic mother and she told me when I was quite young that I was imperfect and that she would take me to a psychologist. I am an introvert, I like to strive for perfection from myself and like rules of law and logic. I can have passionate conversations with a complete stranger on a subject on which we are both mutually interested. I have a detached personality which has served me well in my work. I do ghost people who are harmful to me and others. I am an observer, I prefer this, rather than to being the centre of attention, which I find distressing. I believe in truth and light and I believe in do not tell me you are good, show me. I think before I say something. Words are like bullets, you cannot take them back.
this was very deep and also relatable.. and exactly. what even is the point, its a never ending internal process most people don't even understand.
I am an INFJ and I have a tendency to dive in to other people‘s experiences with both empathy and compassion and help them on their path forward. This is what you are describing with ENFJs. What is the relationship between INFJ/ENFJ? I wonder where the confusion is coming from or if that’s just a developed aspect of myself that overlaps with the latter?
Fair enough. I see your point there and having to take a different test and still end up as an INFJ as a result i am still confused why they always say something like INFJ are weak and very empathic people altho yeah i get drained when i am in a crowded places that's given but i have to do more research about it because i don't want to label myself as an INFJ and ended up not being one or i just try to fit my shoes being as one because it's rare. I think if you're a real INFJ you would not want to jump into a conclusion right away that you're one of them because deep inside you, you don't care whatever personality you end up with as long as you know deep inside you it's the truth and a fact. Namaste!
Excellent as usual!
yes! I can so identify with all you have shared here! You even use terminology that I have so often used myself, such as using the analogy of "peeling an onion". I can't tell you how often I have thought that or said it over the years. lol Too funny. Well, I am smiling after hearing you, and I am thinking wouldn't it be neat to be able to have a sort of round-table meeting/discussion of INFJs of different ages, at different points in their life experience? I'd love to see that... INFJs at say, age five, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, sixy and seventy. I am almost sixty, now. I will tell you this. When I was younger, I was extremely goal-oriented. I was always setting up goals for myself, particularly academic goals, but I can see how I did this in most areas of my life. It is so easy to see all these patterns in retrospect! lol Well, I can tell you that now, what I see is that all of my striving in life has led me right back to where I began as an individual. I am very much celebrating being the same girl I was at age five. I finally gave myself permission to just BE what I am in the moment every day. I am very peaceful and happy overall, and I would love to hear the life experiences of other INFJs. I would love to hear how many others my age feel the same way that I do and about the paths that led them "home". Though I am much the same gal I was when I was younger in many ways, one of the things I am NOT anymore is striving to do or accomplish anything. I feel like a cat does, I imagine, when it falls and lands on its feel and then just casually looks around, walks to the nearest sunbeam and curls up there to relax and purr. ;) What a lovely feeling to know fully that all you are meant to be you always were and still are, and all you have to "do" is be it as fully and with as much integrity as one can. :)
Its apart of who you are. You could have multiple personality types mixed, its hard pinpoint which is which. Its taken me five year's pinpoint my personality type , the trick is don't listen to others use your own intuition and guidance. Experiences. Try and not judge yourself but learn about yourself, I'm an infj empath also a taurus sun rising libra Luna moon and a linith moon virgo, your astrology placements at birth and who is in your charr at the time of birth also ads to your personality type. 🙏💛❤️ I found many faults with my self as well as good things. Dont hold on to your faults but learn from them. Thank you for these video's they're helping, please don't shut me out or block me I'm still learning. 💜 🙏
What are the 5 signs? Can someone please list them. I am nearly half-way through this video and I am confused.
I found that my, infj mind, seams to collect a lot of particles of information and when it is complete it stores it until needed. I have taught myself to look around me always, but not pay attention because my brain will pick it up. I have many of conversations and or situations that I have answers to questions and I don't know where the information came from.
I love all your videos.
I was quite unsure whether I was correctly typed but now I'm sure I am an INFJ. Thanks a lot for making this video, it was very helpful to me
Here I how I discovered I am an INFJ, Is I watched a video and felt like I stepped into my native tounge, omgd I understood the person's body language, their bloopers in sharing the personality traits, I understood what they were trying to say under what they were saying. I even said I GET YOU! I Felt a relief. Like there are others who understand my language. I do not have to explain the silent retreat or loss of social interest during my alone time or the struggle of I love ppl but LOVE and have to be alone. I like being inside of myself, but never knew it was normal. I feel like I finally fit. I do not have to try to alter these things to appear normal. The discovery brought more self acceptance, it has brought more enlightenment. I've been taunted about being to sensitive, however truth is ppl drain me after a while, and I need a break. I want to socialize but sometimes I have to retreat. I called it resting bitch face when really I was content to be inside myself and observe. I pick up on shit that others are oblivious to and I didnt know why they couldn't see it. Those that didn't see it looked at me like I'm nuts. I thought maybe I had anti social traits. When REALLY it's my personality. So when we are misunderstood and our parents do not know how to connect with us it can be damaging to say the least. I am free now to embrace myself more fully, connect with my authenticity because I am not alone and others with this personality traits get me and I get them and I no longer have to explain myself. I'm social but I love alone, I'm want to go out but really am a homebody. I love helping ppl but have to retreat. Thank God I have found my tribe!
I can pinpoint in a matter of seconds, in person or online who is or may be mistyped in terms of infj. Intuitive intelligence. Working from your heart line is effortless. It isn’t a state of mind, it’s a state of existence. I am also 5w4 and have weird empath abilities across distances. It only happens when the thoughts are pointed at me or projected out to me. This isn’t the same as being empathetic although I feel that too. I don’t have any agency over this ability and pinpointing the inner “contemplation” of others is obscure. Otherworldly. The only way I can describe it is an inner construct change, like a flash. I could be neutral and all the sudden take on another’s thoughts. The only reason I am fully self aware of this is because of me doing it with my family and friends online. Also intjs are the only ones who are radio silent for me. It’s so hard to put into words as they can often escape linguistic approach for me.
I connect you with swanlike silence and the ravens run over my shoulders here.
Iseen.
Thank you for your beautiful explanation about our idealist group of people. I love hearing you talk about us ENFP‘s, but also the ENFJ, INFP and of course INFJ‘s. ✨🙏🏼✨
So... I kinda lost my personality... And I'm an INFJ... How do I find my personality back? Do I look at other people how they are... Or do I have to look inside myself somehow?
I’m getting things done! I am a leader who does not want to lead people. I agree. I like to make people feel special and empowered. Encourager.....who leads myself.....I have many animals I ask of them to be independant! Do your own thing. And it’s OK
Did you know that Jung said that the types can changes during life?
Very true! I recently watched a Jung video and he didn't think it was wholly reliable to "type" oneself because it varied greatly through someone's life. I think beneath every person we're all seeking purpose and understanding and community, or even desperate to find uniqueness we feel we lack so these MBTI types make people feel comfortable or heard within their personalities.
Great work
Angry Fi types don't like being told they aren't special.
Hi Erik nice Video Really Good Insight in the inner thought of an infj
I Think of myself at the Moment as an infj but i'm not Sure of that cause i diden't Talk to anybody About this. At first it made me a little insecure About it cause sometimes i doubt myself being an infj. But in the end i realize it diden't make any difference i am what i am and that's fine. In your Video i recognized myself a lot i don't want to be the healer or Helper cause i don't want to Interrupt other People in there doing cause they bring so much effort in there doing i don't want them to let it be for nothing. So instead of telling them the truth i decided to lead them i an different direction and show them how they can achieve there goals.
I have been struggling with my type. I have tested as INFP, but when I start on the road to learning more about INFP I find that I don't feel it fully fits me. I want to figure this out. I want to know what I am. I want to know why I am the way I am. I want to understand.
Me too
Same.
took the test 10 years ago and was an INFJ and I wonder if it still applies or if it changed
wait...so because I like acting I'm not an INFJ??
Just take a real personality test, evaluated by a psychologist. It will go deeper into why you are that way etc.. you’ll get one on one talks.. even if they don’t necessarily rate you a 4 letter personality type.. you will learn a lot. Taking it alongside of a IQ test will help the psychologist better determine how or why your personality is how it is.. hope this helps.
Excellent insights!!
I found this very helpful and validating. Whenever I've had jobs more suited to the other types, it has been incredibly stressful.
"Flow comes when you free yourself from all of that."
I can say there are many reasons people's personalities can be formed into being introverted. We all need to be excepted in society to some degree.I hear what means a lot to you so I can relate.
Sorry but I don’t think the uploader is a real INFJ.
No worries!
@@telemahostelemahou7406 who the fuck hurt you? Lol
@@KitoINFP breezy is definitely an esfj!
@@KitoINFP 😄
I'm using the introverted intuition as dominant function, connecting thoughts and feelings deep witch create intense expression witch comes from extroverted feelings, looking for the truth and evidence witch I believe comes from introverted thinking to the best of my ability based on the surroundings witch comes from extroverted sensing of what is going on in the reality of a situation. Sometimes I get critical because I don't believe certain things because I can see clear with my introverted intuition as some kind of abstract/x-ray vision (Ni-Ti connection). It's complex.
- INFJ type 5w4 mixed with 5w6 (investigator) and again mixed with 6w5.
Hi Erik! On the Myers Briggs test I was equally (or almost equally, I can't remember) rated on the introversion / extroversion scale, but there is no question in my mind I am an introvert. Don't understand that. Is there some cross-over type? I am completely comfortable with the INFJ description and feel like it fits me, just curious about the extroversion score being so close when I'm clearly not an extrovert.
Carl Jung was deeply critical against dichotomy tests. He believed no person was just an introvert, or just an extrovert, so such tests will never give you a correct result. He believed there were four kinds of introverts and four kinds of extroverts. So you are better of finding your preference there. Introverted intuitives that like to understand the world theoretically, as an abstraction. Introverted sensors that like to understand the world practically, defining and categorising things. Feelers, that like to understand the world intropersonally, as feelings and motivations, or Introverted thinkers that see the world logically. Take my test here: www.erikthor.com/test/erik-thor-type-indicator-etti/
Thanks so much! Will be taking your test.
You know I feel the same... I am 100% Infj..... whenever I have tried to copy other's traits like adapting into situations, I miserably failed.
Spot on. Thank you. I only came to understand this about myself this week. I identify with infj completely and partly with enfj is this possible to be more than 1?
There are some collisions in values in that INFJs have internalised introverted intuition and feeling where ENFJs have internalised extroverted intuition and feeling. INFJs perceive theories and intention as something that comes from inside, where emotions and possibilities come from other people. ENFJs perceive patterns and emotions as something that comes from within, from yourself, where intentions and theories are found in the world around you. Think: INFJ: My theories & My Intentions, or ENFJ My Patterns ,& My Feelings.
Ok. I see that. I am realising this much later than I would have liked to have in my life. All that matters for me now is I know now.
You sound like you have been observing these aspects to self for a long time.
I identify as an INFJ. Doing what makes me happy, yes, its very simple when I can see it. haha
Thank you again for helping me. I am a little clearer.
Yes I am and so are you I know this because I can visually type mbti types by their facial profiles
Which world do you prefer brining into order, Eric? The outside world or your inner world?
Well....I know myself!I am not an INFJ
I am in fact an INFP
However whenever I take personality tests,I always come out as 49% judgemental.Which might be why I am able to relate to most aspectects of an INFJ.However,still doesn’t gets me away from the fact that I cannot handle scheduling.
I think I am an INFJ, but I'm not positive. Everything I do must have a reason or I don't do it. So is that part of the INFJ personality type? And you also said that if your direction keeps changing or you have to keep taking different paths to achieve your goals, that you are more likely to be an INFP. Please let me know if I misunderstood that. 😊 I have a set goal that I want to achieve however my path to get there had to change, not because I wanted it to, but because what I was originally doing to get to my goal didn't end up working and I had to do something else that I didn't really want to do but I did it because it was the only thing I could do that would get me to my end goal. I thought the Infjs were goal oriented and would do what ever they had to do to achieve their goal even when it was difficult (which would include changing their way of getting to their goal if the original way didn't work). So is that something an INFJ or an INFP would do? I'm pretty sure that I'm either an infp or an infj, but I am unsure exactly which. If anyone could help me out with this, I would really appreciate it. Figuring out my personality and who I am and trying to make sense of why I do what I do has been important to me for many years and I would really like to know if I am an infj or infp 😊
Ok, I took the test after I posted this comment and it said I was an INFJ. But I would like to hear others thoughts and opinions on this 😊
I'm an infj I am highly sensitive but I am not affectionate I struggle with showing my sensitivity so I come off pretty cold
lol I'm now having an identity crisis.... I commented on your Carl Jung video the other day, and mentioned that I'm an INFP...(It's what I keep landing on whenever I start to question whether that's right), but I took the personality test on 16personalities.com a couple of days ago and my results came up INFJ. At first, I just figured it was because "how accurate can a quick quiz truly be?"...and figured it was probably wrong. But I cannot altogether rule it out because I identify with BOTH! Even my results in the different categories of the test, where they give percentages, many of those categories were 40/60 meaning, I believe, that I'm only "slightly introvered", and "slightly everything else". I thought I'd watch this video to help me rule out INFJ once and for all, but I'm sitting here laughing because I care A LOT about "Truth"...but also care a lot about kindness. It's mostly through experience that I've come to feel that Truth is a higher value, and that there's always a way to be kind and respectful while speaking the truth. In fact, often feel that it's often actually "unkind" NOT to speak the truth (and the sooner the better!), even if that means some short-term "discomfort" might be the result. I wonder if a person can be 'perched" almost in the center of two different types. This may be a silly question...I don't have a lot of knowledge on the whole MBTI...Only an interest.... Or.....I wonder what it was you were saying about how people's experiences can result in a false INFJ typing....You didn't say much about that or the potential mechanisms by which that might occur.
Try mine: erikthor.com/test/personality-test sixteenpersonalities one is too ambiguous and stereotypical. :/
Thanks (A LOT!) Erik.....Now I'm having a triple identity crisis! lololol Your test results gave me "ENFP"... I think these tests are really only a way to point you in a general direction. On many questions, I found myself wanting more options....particularly one right between "somewhat agree" and "somewhat disagree" (such as, "Well, it depends on the situation/person/mood I'm in) and of course all of these answers are relative to whatever "norm" we are comparing ourselves to in the moment we answer. I really think I started out as an INFP...maybe I'm a dysfunctional one due to growing up with more dominant "thinkers"...or maybe a "more" functional one due to being forced to develop my inferior thinking function....I do feel I've done a lot of adapting to my surroundings (the world, the family), just out of necessity in order to protect what's most important to me. I just re-read the instructions "Take this personality test to find out your personality type when you are in a state of flow"...and I'm wondering if this means I should take the test when I'm in a state of flow, or whether it means the results should indicate my true "in flow" type... Maybe taking the test when I'm slightly stressed out affected my results? I'll try again another time :)
O.k.....Did a bunch more investigating...watching videos and the differences between Ni/Ne , Si/Se, Ti/Te and Judging/Perceiving....and more videos that compared INFPs with INFJs...and then your video comparing INFPs with ENFPs.......all with the idea of "how I am when I'm in a state of flow.....All have led, again, to INFP......aaaaand......I took your test today because I'm far more relaxed and "in flow" today than I was last week....and I got an "INFP" result this time. BTW...one of the videos I watched actually said that INFPs often question whether they truly are INFPs....as if that's one way to know. Not sure I believe that but I thought it was funny if nothing else.
I have a simple question how do you know your an infj it's easy to say you are and understand what it is but I would like to know what make you believe you are vs idolizing infj and trying to conform to the perception you have of infj. As well infjs are not robots experience and life changes how we all react and interact with what ever personality traits we have so be careful not to over judge people based on your personal belief and to find the core facts from every angle you can frist not just the ones you like then inform from there
its been a small journey to discovering that im actually an infj and not, as tested before, infp or enfj.
understanding the functions is really important to be able to type yourself.
my mom always insisted that im an alpha, a close friend that im the perfect politician archetype concerning being diplomatic.
i never understood what they meant until recently.
I don’t know why trying to type myself is so important to me, but I’ve been trying to properly pinpoint it for a while. I still haven’t gotten anywhere! I can relate to several types in the same amount. It’s frustrating because i need closure from this before I can do other things like studying, which is annoying because I have exams coming up
Omg, thank you for these questions that I can ask myself.
I've started a monalong with all of the people I know, an the people who mean something in my life. So that I/they can better understand themselves so a common goal, and a better relationship can be reached. Do you think that there is anyone out there working on a better testing system so that the testing can bring out truer results?
Erik, where r u from originally? You have a nice accent
Mikayla Kugler Swedish and Sweden!
He's Swedish. Det kan man høre på ham.
@@cjallison8362 You're speaking Danish not Swedish
INFJ is a way for a person to make sense of the actions they take. My title is a christian. I follow GOD and his wisdom. I have many gifts and give GOD all the credit. I am but a vessel for GOD to do his works.
I am an infj. I had to learn these things myself and would have loved to have had the internet around to expedite my process. Oh well.
I'm either an infj or no type. No other type can fit. I tried so hard to try and check if I was a different type and convince myself however I came back here. My infp sister said I was definitely an infj I should just accept it and move on to other things.
the 17th type 👽
Honest to black Jesus, I can't figure out what the hell type I am. I usually test as an INTJ or INTP, but am about half and half feeling and thinking, and half and half perceiving and judging (according to multiple quizzes). I am a female, and according to statistics, 70% of women test as feelers instead of thinkers. But recently in taking quizzes that distinguised differences between each one of the types, I scored way more INFJ than INTJ. That being said, I do value logic over people's subjective feelings because people's subjective feelings when triggered are usually based on unhealed emotional wounds that warrant turning inside to figure out the trigger versus thinking their subjective emotions define the truth of the external situation they experienced.
However, I am an empath and absorb peoples' emotions like an INFJ. I'm an acupuncturist who uses crystals and lasers on the table. I like helping people, but in a kind of methodical non-sentimental way as if I overly involve myself emotionally in peoples situations- my own emotions will get the best of me, and I feel like I need to be impartial and detached to keep my vibration up to give people good healing or wisdom.
Despite knowing a lot about occult psychology and metaphysical reality, on a one-on-one basis, I will only reveal what I know if I feel like a person needs or will be receptive to the information. People are constantly asking me for advice, but I am reluctant to insert myself into other peoples' hot mess situations as I could literally spend half my time being an advisor for free if I indulged all the people who supposedly 'need me' over the years. So I am endeavoring to develop systems and menus of offerings to have a way to funnel people into a reciprocity of time for money because one of the worst stings and betrayals I have felt in the past were being used for my generosity- only to find out that that was about all people wanted from me. I think reciprocity is probably a great idea for INFJs to consider...... in giving their time and energy...... will they feel okay or used if that energy is not reciprocated? Do they have the bandwidth to help for free, or will it distract them from their own projects?
I did your personality test and came out INFP. Very interesting indeed. In the past I've been typed INTJ and INFJ.
Really excellent!!
I love this. I am so INFP and always knew it
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God I love your username. So INFP as well:)
evrey felt the need to sort out the sound level on your video?