This is great. I am an old school bass player and you have inspired me to work on new ideas. BTW, your site and transcriptions are on point. I would love to help you publish them in US or worldwide. Best to you.
Thank you so much for this lesson! Had a very big struggle with this technique as im trying to learn Power by Marcus Miller himself! and this has helped a lot over the past few days, I shall definitely go over to your website for future help, Keep up the amazing work
Thanks man if you haven't been to the website yet jump along and if you can leave me a comment on the lesson page. It would be much appreciated. I will also get working on some new lessons for you. Thanks for the support man. stay tuned for more videos. C
Love this lesson. You hands are similar to mine so its easy to see how I would go about it. I have a wierd homegrown slap style that has me in a rut, so this should break me out into adding new things!!! thanks!!.
Sweet. But both Marcus and Victor use hammer-ons for the A-to-G, on the D string. Sometimes they play the G (with the upstroke like you're doing), but they almost always do a hammer-on to the A with their third finger. It's all part of a left-hand technique that Marcus referred to as "thump pluck phrasing" back in 2004, on his website/bulletin board. It's much more legato than slap bass and has a very similar feel to dead-note guitar :-) The first person I heard do it on bass was the late great Roger Troutman. It was in a music store in Dayton, OH back in '71-'72...on a Fender Mustang bass.
+Michael Wooten You make a good point. Generally speaking it seems like the preoccupation of bassists technique with the right hand (if they are right handed) makes the mistake of not developing independence with the left hand on the fretboard. Classical guitarists spend long hours practicing to overcome this natural imbalance which is a result of right hand dominance. Dominance is reinforced unwittingly by the way we practice. Classical guitarists spend years developing proper legato technique and when you see a classical guitarist like Manual Barrueco who is known for his flawless technique, this looks easy because he devoted so many hours to his left hand. It is easy to end up, overlooking the problem of dominance.
Amazing! Double thumbing is something new I've been trying to learn.. and this is definitely the best tutorial! :D So much helpful information! Cheers Colin!!
More coming soon my friend. If you haven't been get across to the website and sign up for free. I will be emailing when new video's are posted. If there are any lessons you'd like to see in the near future leave your requests on the website comments box. Thanks again for checking out the videos. All the best Col
I was just searching for some Marcus Miller to copy his tone for the (very dodgy) slap bass on my album. Look who I found!! How are you? Hope all is well? We'll need to have a wee jam next time I'm in Scotland!!
@@CocosBassment Aye, I'm fine. Just finishing off my wee album of guitar madness and staying in food by doing skype lessons. How about you? Hows the Zombie apocalypse where you are? Are you still in Scotland?
Economy of motion would suggest you hit the C with an UP pluck followed by the A, also with an UP pluck. Then a down pluck on the final G. As if you were playing with a pick. So, down, up, up, down.
Something I've been realizing. Seeing others do these licks and tricks looks easy right? But when you actually actually practice these things like double thumping, it's challenging. Practicing for me is BRUTAL having ADHD
@@CamF72790 great stuff man, just keep at it. I’m actually gonna be opening up online lessons via zoom if its something your interested in. However, the more you do the same patterns the more you understand the motion
I started practicing this but I was scratching the back of my thumb nail. Is that part of the learning process or is it continuous with this technique. I have a bit of thumb nail on right hand for guitar playing I guess it gets caught.
Marc Babin Idk bout yall but I use the knuckle of my thumb to slap down, then extend my thumb while twisting my arm to use my nail on top instead of just the side.
It seems like the people that are best at this have hitchhiker thumb. Maybe it's coincidence and I'm not saying it's impossible by any means with a straight thumb. I don't have hitchhikers thumb and it's hard to get that angle coming back up. Obviously I need more practice, but it's just something I've noticed among bass players
+Damon Armstrong I find that i'm using more the corner of the nail. Everyones thumb is shaped differently so the key is to work on these exercises slowly and find where its most comfortable and produces good tone. To really get flow to the technique its crucial to stay relaxed. My thumb and hand are never tense. It did take me a while to get into a flow with it and i find i'm still learning to develop it. Its really like victor describes it, think of your thumb as a pick. Sorry for the long winded reply but i hope it helps.
Ha ha all i can say is, no pain no gain. Lol In all serious, you thumb should be relaxed not pushing upward too much, very much the same way you use a pick. Hope that helps.
be patient, mate. whenever you sit and watch telly or something, just grab your bass and practise the technique as you watch, give it a week and you'll definitely feel the difference, guaranteed.
Hey man thanks for the comment. If you want to get technical on this, Yeah this technique is used by Victor Wooten and really taken to a new level by him. However, it actually started with Larry Graham or at least was showcased by him back in the 70's. Marcus Miller again did not take it to the level Victor Wooten has taken it but he was incorporating this into his work in the early 80's. Listen to Marcus Miller with Lenny White, Luther Vandross or Marcus first two albums. The style i used in this lesson is from typical runs you would find from Marcus Miller (maybe even a bit more basic), but yes you might find Wooten playing similar lines. I find Victor Wooten runs a bit more technical. Would be worth putting to a debate, who out of the two Pioneered the technique first. I'd imagine they'd both say Larry Graham. Worth Looking into : ) Sorry, talking about sounding pedantic.
CocosBassment Yeah, it's hard to say exactly when, but Marcus was doing this technique a long time ago. Graham was for sure doing it in the '70s (e.g., "Release Yourself" in '74). Just based on their ages, it's safe to say Miller got it from Graham. So, who knows where Wooten got it, but he wasn't first. I gotta say... as much as Wooten has pushed this technique (and technique in general), Miller still can't be beat for precision, execution, and sheer authority. When he does double thumb, he's almost inhumanly accurate. Wooten, IMO, often bites off more than he can chew.
Regards to the triplet comment, Its four notes so obviously that confusing. Think of the first three notes at a semiquaver triplet moving into an eighth note. This means the whole “lick” fits into one beat. If you wanted to get secure with it at a slower tempo or half its value then you can practice it as a quaver triplet into a crotchet then work your way up to 200bpm. This video is from way back I try to babble less crap these days. Glad to see these videos still have appeal. Thanks for the comments, very much appreciated
This is truly a technique I will add to my repertoire. Excellent instructions.
Cheers dude, glad you got something from this vid. All the best C
Thank you brother for the clarity of the technique!
This is great. I am an old school bass player and you have inspired me to work on new ideas. BTW, your site and transcriptions are on point. I would love to help you publish them in US or worldwide. Best to you.
Awesome!
Thank you so much for this lesson! Had a very big struggle with this technique as im trying to learn Power by Marcus Miller himself! and this has helped a lot over the past few days, I shall definitely go over to your website for future help, Keep up the amazing work
***** Thanks man, appreciate the support. I'm glad you got some use out this video. Marcus double thumb style is very unique.
Well, from now on I'll practice this a lot! Thanks Mr. Cocos. :)
This really helped thank you so much!
Very good tutorial. I need more like this :)
Thanks for the comment my friend much appreciated.
Col
Thanks man if you haven't been to the website yet jump along and if you can leave me a comment on the lesson page. It would be much appreciated. I will also get working on some new lessons for you. Thanks for the support man. stay tuned for more videos.
C
Very good tutorial ...thank you for the lesson... Gonna head to your website ..cheers
Thanks dude! Glad you dig the video.
I'm watching in 2016. thanks for the movie.
Love this lesson. You hands are similar to mine so its easy to see how I would go about it. I have a wierd homegrown slap style that has me in a rut, so this should break me out into adding new things!!! thanks!!.
Great clear directions much thanks!!!
Awesome lesson. Thanks
"Play that exercise for 4 minutes."
More like play that exercise until the top of your thumb bleeds.
Ha ha yeah, didn't want to say tho!! : )
@@CocosBassment It's actually: Ha ha yi, dinni wahne seh do!!
Love the funky sound and I really want to get good at doing it; but it just hurts so bad right now. lol
Sweet. But both Marcus and Victor use hammer-ons for the A-to-G, on the D string. Sometimes they play the G (with the upstroke like you're doing), but they almost always do a hammer-on to the A with their third finger. It's all part of a left-hand technique that Marcus referred to as "thump pluck phrasing" back in 2004, on his website/bulletin board. It's much more legato than slap bass and has a very similar feel to dead-note guitar :-) The first person I heard do it on bass was the late great Roger Troutman. It was in a music store in Dayton, OH back in '71-'72...on a Fender Mustang bass.
+Michael Wooten You make a good point. Generally speaking it seems like the preoccupation of bassists technique with the right hand (if they are right handed) makes the mistake of not developing independence with the left hand on the fretboard. Classical guitarists spend long hours practicing to overcome this natural imbalance which is a result of right hand dominance. Dominance is reinforced unwittingly by the way we practice. Classical guitarists spend years developing proper legato technique and when you see a classical guitarist like Manual Barrueco who is known for his flawless technique, this looks easy because he devoted so many hours to his left hand. It is easy to end up, overlooking the problem of dominance.
Michael Wooten
awesome bass playing.
Great lesson great video thank’s a lot !!! congratulation for your work !
good stuff coco, need more of that
"The fingers of rock" lol...cracked me up!
Muy bien explicado amigo. Ya tienes un nuevo suscriptor. Ánimo y sigue así
very good lesson !
Marcus Miller = GOD
Good stuff Colin thanks.
Amazing! Double thumbing is something new I've been trying to learn.. and this is definitely the best tutorial! :D So much helpful information!
Cheers Colin!!
NICE!
Thankq sir.. ❤️
More coming soon my friend. If you haven't been get across to the website and sign up for free. I will be emailing when new video's are posted. If there are any lessons you'd like to see in the near future leave your requests on the website comments box. Thanks again for checking out the videos.
All the best
Col
Thanks - I just learned it!
5 minutes playing like that : bloody thumb :D
love it
great bass!!!
Great instruction, but my muteing fingers on my left hand won't stay flat when playing the notes, how do l rectify this.
I was just searching for some Marcus Miller to copy his tone for the (very dodgy) slap bass on my album. Look who I found!!
How are you? Hope all is well? We'll need to have a wee jam next time I'm in Scotland!!
nickjitsu FS talk aboot a blast from the past. Geez man how are ye?
@@CocosBassment Aye, I'm fine. Just finishing off my wee album of guitar madness and staying in food by doing skype lessons.
How about you? Hows the Zombie apocalypse where you are? Are you still in Scotland?
great video, cheers
Victor wooten uses this technique too
Thanks mate. Appreciate the comment, First comment too! : )
Economy of motion would suggest you hit the C with an UP pluck followed by the A, also with an UP pluck. Then a down pluck on the final G. As if you were playing with a pick. So, down, up, up, down.
yes
Amazing! Thx 🙏
Note: it seems you play with a quite high action on your bass 😲
Great
Something I've been realizing. Seeing others do these licks and tricks looks easy right? But when you actually actually practice these things like double thumping, it's challenging. Practicing for me is BRUTAL having ADHD
Trust me man you’ll get it, its just about chipping away at it and over time it will come together.
@@CocosBassment I practiced a little of that double thumping yesterday, it's tricky
@@CamF72790 great stuff man, just keep at it. I’m actually gonna be opening up online lessons via zoom if its something your interested in. However, the more you do the same patterns the more you understand the motion
Thanx man....
Thanks
👏👏
I started practicing this but I was scratching the back of my thumb nail. Is that part of the learning process or is it continuous with this technique. I have a bit of thumb nail on right hand for guitar playing I guess it gets caught.
Yeah been having this doubt for a while cause I keep hurting myself... but no clue as of yet.
Marc Babin Idk bout yall but I use the knuckle of my thumb to slap down, then extend my thumb while twisting my arm to use my nail on top instead of just the side.
wow ,have subbed
Great lesson. I get how to do it, but when I do, I don't get the pop on the upstroke, so it sounds like a normal upstroke(not slap)
Jackson Warren maybe u need new strings.. or change ur guitar preamp or Amp setting
It seems like the people that are best at this have hitchhiker thumb. Maybe it's coincidence and I'm not saying it's impossible by any means with a straight thumb. I don't have hitchhikers thumb and it's hard to get that angle coming back up. Obviously I need more practice, but it's just something I've noticed among bass players
Nice
I struggle with this because my thumb doesn't bent back around, it stays straight, I have relatively tight tendons in my hands :(
I thought the tutorial was made by Marcus Miller and I was like "the hands are white!" X_X
lol
@Noel Leon he/she was expecting M.M., I guess it was perhaps just a disappointing surprise.
Cool
Cristal clear :).
Cheers Steve : )
V. Good!
Hi. Is your bass Fender Jazz Deluxe V Model?
Great Tutorial by the way! :)
so are you hitting it with the first thumb knuckle or like the tip of your thumb?
+Damon Armstrong I find that i'm using more the corner of the nail. Everyones thumb is shaped differently so the key is to work on these exercises slowly and find where its most comfortable and produces good tone. To really get flow to the technique its crucial to stay relaxed. My thumb and hand are never tense.
It did take me a while to get into a flow with it and i find i'm still learning to develop it. Its really like victor describes it, think of your thumb as a pick.
Sorry for the long winded reply but i hope it helps.
+CocosBassment not at all man! I appreciate the advice! this lesson really helped me get a grip on the technique, thanks a million!
+Damon Armstrong No worries man, i'm glad your getting some use out of this video. All the Best C
Play the Night Court theme.
what is the correct tecnique coz my thumb hurts lol
Ha ha all i can say is, no pain no gain. Lol
In all serious, you thumb should be relaxed not pushing upward too much, very much the same way you use a pick. Hope that helps.
thank you very much :)
how can you bend that thumb like that..
By the way, it is crystal :).
You're scottish right? Or irish?
But I don't have spoon thumbs :(
I have practiced that double thump technique and I can never get it right.. It's complicated. I understand the concept but my finger gets jammed..haha
be patient, mate. whenever you sit and watch telly or something, just grab your bass and practise the technique as you watch, give it a week and you'll definitely feel the difference, guaranteed.
No sé nada de inglés pero creo aver entendido...!!!! V:
my thumb isnt shaped like yours, mine is straight, so its very uncomftable :S
Oh yeah bud you're fucked youll never be able to do it. Lol jk ive seen straight thumbs do it
@@mountaindont34ify I think it is a little bit late to tell him that he can. Over 6 years have passed 😂😂
Great lesson...next time tine that thing before you start recording...
ended with broken fingers, :S dont care, gotta sound good
Technically speaking this is Victor Wooten's technique. I don't mean to be too pedantic.
Hey man thanks for the comment. If you want to get technical on this, Yeah this technique is used by Victor Wooten and really taken to a new level by him. However, it actually started with Larry Graham or at least was showcased by him back in the 70's. Marcus Miller again did not take it to the level Victor Wooten has taken it but he was incorporating this into his work in the early 80's. Listen to Marcus Miller with Lenny White, Luther Vandross or Marcus first two albums. The style i used in this lesson is from typical runs you would find from Marcus Miller (maybe even a bit more basic), but yes you might find Wooten playing similar lines. I find Victor Wooten runs a bit more technical. Would be worth putting to a debate, who out of the two Pioneered the technique first. I'd imagine they'd both say Larry Graham. Worth Looking into : )
Sorry, talking about sounding pedantic.
CocosBassment Yeah, it's hard to say exactly when, but Marcus was doing this technique a long time ago. Graham was for sure doing it in the '70s (e.g., "Release Yourself" in '74). Just based on their ages, it's safe to say Miller got it from Graham. So, who knows where Wooten got it, but he wasn't first.
I gotta say... as much as Wooten has pushed this technique (and technique in general), Miller still can't be beat for precision, execution, and sheer authority. When he does double thumb, he's almost inhumanly accurate. Wooten, IMO, often bites off more than he can chew.
Some Crazy Slap Triplets, Preview here.
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Lessons coming soon
If you don't mind me asking, what is your nationality?
+Black Dog I'd be interested to hear what nationality u think I am?? 😁
+CocosBassment I'm afraid I'm going to get it wrong
Ha ha please get it wrong for my entertainment.
+CocosBassment it sounds like you have an Irish accent
Tecnica de victor wooten
Something is not quite right here. The tempo set here is half time there should be twice the amount of clicks counted.
Regards to the triplet comment, Its four notes so obviously that confusing. Think of the first three notes at a semiquaver triplet moving into an eighth note. This means the whole “lick” fits into one beat. If you wanted to get secure with it at a slower tempo or half its value then you can practice it as a quaver triplet into a crotchet then work your way up to 200bpm. This video is from way back I try to babble less crap these days. Glad to see these videos still have appeal. Thanks for the comments, very much appreciated
This technique kills me. I can't do it and I don't understand how you people do it... Thanks for making the video though.
Trying to learn Run For Cover .. But because of this technique I can't finish it.
prerequisite to double thumb... a bloody thumb...
This is a pain to do with a small thumb, but i can make it work.
I need a decent bass, mine sounds like a fart on wood.
this is the first triplet lesson that contains 4 notes lol
lols, triplet into an 8th note (quaver) is what i should have said.
Good lesson my nigga
Great