The Victims of David Lee Roth
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2024
- From Wolfgang Van Halen to Sammy Hagar... let's uncover which rock stars can't stand David Lee Roth...
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seems like Michael Anthony is the only non toxic Van Halen member
and he left with sammy...says alot...
Eddie was hardly innocent when it came to crapping on people. He really did Michael dirty.
I guess there's always a Ringo in every rock band that keeps personalities in balance.
And ultra talented in his own right, along with being a super good guy. It's a shame he was done so dirty by the Van Halen brothers. 😔
@@IIIDontLie2MeIII❤❤ I I am ❤ a little țy
Van Halen is no more. Let’s finally admit and accept it.
What the hell are you talking about??? Yeah, the group is gone but so what as among it's fans VH is still as popular as ever. Fans still fans. VH STILL LOVED & BEING PLAYED!
There no new stuff to take it's place!
it died with Sammy Hagar...
They could get David, Alex, Michael, and someone like Billy Corgan on guitar. They'd rawk.
I hated what they did to Michael, thought it was really shitty. Watch any group interview, everyone speaks except him. That's messed up. Played great rock bass, Great hi harmony singer, great audience connection and energy
I wish Mike HAD engaged in composing and writing though.... he was likely too nice a guy to get his hands dirty in the song creation business with egos like Roth and Van Halen but he WAS an educated musician and his jazz orientation would have helped in the post Fair Warning environment.
it was telling what Hagar said about the situation. Sammy said the 3 band members screwed Michael over, and that he'd never done anything to demean the band. Too bad, it is what it is
What Captain Candyass says is HIS opinion . A member of Blue Oyster Cult defended Ed about royalties . He told a story about writing a song for BOC and asking other members if everyone in the band would share in the royalties. One member said no and screwed himself out of royalties because the song became a hit . In defense of Edward , Mike never wrote any song . Ed composed all the songs . He played all the instruments on the 1984 demo tape .
@@philrobertson5459I read recently that Sammy & a former Mgr were busted doing very sneaky things behind the scenes regarding their contracts/royalties. If true, it plays very poorly for Sammy. Yet another example of him talking out of both ends, so to speak. I don't trust what he says. In many ways, he's no different than Dave. Always talking & trying to make himself look better. Aside from this, Mike did not contribute to any music/song writing. He should have never been paid the same as individuals who are responsible for the music. That's not treating someone poorly, that's called giving the artists responsible for the music their proper due. Mike never complained because he had to have known how good he had it, for as long as he did (when he was paid differently). No one ever brings up this reality & always paints Ed in a bad light, when things should have been different from the start. Ed was a very shy, introverted person. It took him a while to find his voice, on the business side of things. I think a lot of enlightenment will take place when Alex's book drops this fall. Pretty sure no one expected him to write a book.
NO MICHAEL ANTHONY NO VAN HALEN
Fair Warning may not have sold as much back in the day, but it's still some of Eddie's best guitar work. I ❤that album.
the best hands down
It's a great album
@@ThePervertedHymns Exactly. "Van Halen II" was a distant second.
I agree.
I love that album!! It's for sure there most raw album! I used to play that tape so much when I was a kid it started having blank spots in the audio output! Lol
When Ozzy says you've lost some nuts and bolts, that's saying something 😅
Yea, they guy who tried to kill his wife, bit the head of a dove off in a meeting. What it's saying is completely nothing. Roth was right about Ozzy. He was a "product". Every album does sound the same lol
@@justinkassinger8238 Fuckinn sounds good too lol
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I try to make peace and preferred Van Halen as a kid with any of them over Ozzy. Front men have egos that make them front men. I have to admit I think whoever wrote Van Halen's songs has many many more songs I truly enjoy.
@@justinkassinger8238 it was a Bat
me thoughts the same. Oh... but wasn't early Sabbath the cat's meow! Untouchable.
Who would consider anything Ozzy has to say, seriously?
He’s blowing bridges with heavy explosives. Too bad this band continues to be completely dysfunctional even after Eddie’s death.
He had enough of everyone piling on him. I don't blame him. Van Halen owes 1/2 their success to DLR.
Why live in the past? Van Halen is over without Eddie.
There is no van halen without Eddie Van Halen
When Eddie died, the band died. It’s over.
@@fwfrazorx I agree with you but apparently, it isn't for Dave lol. He's letting it all out.
DLR is totally wrong about Ozzy's solo Career. Randy Rhoads was literally one of the greatest Metal/Prog/Classical guitarist to ever do it.
Dlr is a jealous person...daves solo career is absolutely nothing campared to ozzys...
Roth was alwasy jealous of Randy. Randy's close friend Lori Hollen told an account that when Randy was still in QR around 78', Roth and Ed pull up in a mercedes behind the Starwood when Randy was packing up. Roth started to yell at Randy and taunt him saying you wish you could get one of these cars. You never will. Lori went over to the car and slapped Roth in the face. Well Roth ate his words we all know when Randy became one of the greatest guitarists ever and made millions right before he sadly passed. He was the guy that challenged Ed back then even though they are different type guitarists actually and styles. Luckily I got to see both of them back in the day. I personally like Randy better for myself but I love Ed also for what he done.
Diamond Dave notoriously got a lot of things wrong when he ran his yap. I loved him as a frontman and a howler in those first six years of VH, and he was somewhat entertaining as a solo act, at least at first… but wisdom has never been his strong suit. He’s been ass-backwards wrong about a great many things over the years.
I couldn’t agree more about Randy Rhoads. Those two albums he played on with Ozzy speak for themselves. They’re really the only Ozzy solo albums I can even listen to, and that’s almost completely because of Randy.
@@jimbo0411Jesus, how could anybody taunt and deliberately insult a guy like Randy Rhoads? By all accounts he was like, *THEE* nicest guy who ever lived, not to even mention his incredible talent. I’ve talked to several people who personally knew Randy, and they have all said the same things… which is basically that Randy was one of those rare, true “salt of the earth” individuals. Always humble and honest. His heart was as huge as his musical depth. The fact that Roth was that jealous is pretty pathetic.
Randy Rhoads Rocked👍
I saw Van Halen in concert in 1984. Incredible concert. Ahh the 1980s...
I was there as well. My one and only VH concert.
I saw VH once in 1979 at the L.A. Coliseum and the US Festival 1983.
Pure unintentional entertainment. the drama, money, egos, resentment, fame, drugs... Van Halen became this myth which teaches us what to do and what not to do with their own failures... I love all of this
Almost as dysfunctional as Kiss!
Way too many drugs, Dave & Eddie.
Well put.
@@davemiles3387Drugs were certainly a factor, but what really ripped them apart was egos. One of the most egotistical bands in the history of rock and roll. Michael seems to be the only one who gets a pass there, but then again I don’t know the guy personally so who really knows.
@@Shikta-poobah67Michael had the beautiful looking nice wife every other guy wants
My research on the VH brothers is" They unceremoniously dumped Dave, Sammy and screwed their amazing Bass player Michael as they kicked him to the curb.
VH was and remains the common denominator of this decades old pattern.
The original 6 VH albums are amazing. Van Hagar had some great moments, but yes, you are right
Dave left on his own accord. That's a documented fact.
@@TedDiabetes The problem is that it is also documented that the VH brothers kicked Roth out. It does not matter, but likely he made things intolerable: taking an entire year off while Dave makes an ego trip movie, treating everyone else like his assistants, general prickery, etc., so they moved on and you could interpret it either way.
I heard Eddie Van Halen fired himself three dozen times!
100% agreed.
I don't consider Wolfgang a true member of van Halen.
@@kskip4242lol calm down dude. its irrelevant to OP's comment who wolfgangs father is and how he was taught. look, its endearing he taught his son and hes in the band holding the torch for his father but he isnt a true member of van halen -SIMPLE. thats all OP was sayin and it couldnt be more technically right. if you wanna cry about it into ur eddie van halen body pillow -thats fine. youre both entitled to think want u want. the problem is you expressed yourself like a manchild having a meltdown, so your opinion means less than shit.
be safe, have a good day and try not to poop the bed tonight, sweetie x
@@spork297 giving a thumbs up to your own comment doesn't make it any more stupid lol. Wolfie's last name is literally VANHALEN!!! 😅 you literally just said he's carrying the torch for his father which literally means A TRUE MEMBER! Your ignorance is astounding and hilarious. Go ahead and close the door to your crack house get back on your couch and put your phone down and stay ignorant.
I guess you just aren't very observant.
Wolfie "was" a Bonafide, paid, member of van Halen. Fact.
I observed Wolfgang needs to lose weight 😆
a.) Wolfie has come into his own as a musician
b.) Sammy, has matured and can still sing
c.) David Lee Roth cannot sing to save his life. His last tours were embarrassing.
He never could sing.
THATS AN UNDERSTAEMENT
Dave has aged into Don Rickles.
That's definitely a compliment 👍
All those old jews look alike
I think he looks like Dr Smith from lost in space now lol.
Robin Williams as well?
@@jeff82z28😂😂😂
The one who would be”Uncomfortably close to young Will Robinson”, meanwhile the robot is flapping his slinky arms saying in a monotone voice,”Danger ,Danger”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
How does anyone think Axl is a Robert Plant copycat? What???
I mean if he wants to play that game we can accuse Dave of blatantly copying Jim Dandy of Black Oak Arkansas which he obviously did, in every way.
Yeah, I don’t get the Plant/Axl comparison at all either, other than the fact that Axl tries to hit the same high notes (which pretty much *EVERY* hard rock singer does). Other than that there’s really no common ground at all.
So true about the Jim Dandy thing. It’s as obvious as the sun and moon.
He's not worth the sweat on Plants balls
Axl sounds horrible singing nowadays. Too much whiskey voice or whatever he was doing😂
This doesn't sound right . I've never heard or read that before . There's inaccuracies in this video . As for Jim Dandy , Jim defended Dave in the one hour documentary of the club days and the first album tour .
All cannot even sing. Lol.
Read Neil Monk's book about Van Halen. Michael Anthony was the only normal guy in the band. All the rest had pickled brains and unstable egos.
Van Halens first album was amazing. Would have never been the same without Dave. But he needs to let it go.
Estoy de acuerdo , justo de esta manera lo expliqué en mi comentario. La edad importa y aceptar la realidad más aún .
Yeah.....one album. That really does sum up Dave's contribution to VH....then he went into self-destruction mode!
@@danb6838Uh , the best selling albums were with Dave . Sam helped turn the band into Journey 2.0 . Just two Dave era Van Halen albums outsold ALL the Van Hagar era albums COMBINED .
@@danb6838 Everything thru 1984 was a major contribution. Van Halen owed 1/2 their success to David Lee Roth.
How much bs has Sam spewed at Dave, Ed and Alex for the last 20yrs. 100x as much as the other 3 that didnt even want to bring up his name . Dave hasnt said basically anything until now about Sam or Wolfe. Finally, he speaks up and punches both of them hard in the fkn face. Good for Dave👍
I always thought David was an arrogant ass .
You are right
Thanks for your input
Nobody assed u
They're all arrogant assholes.
@@shanemartin8904 Since you asked... I always thought Roth was the worst part of the band.
@@rrmackay I DIDNT ASSK
Nothing sadder than old rockers. Rock n Roll was about vibrancy, youth and rebellion. They all act like a bunch of yenta's now.
It’s so much better when they age gracefully.
Great video. Two things; the first VH album is their biggest selling LP to date. In large part their fan base did reject the 1984 album but they gained a whole new fan base.
"Jump" was a mid-finger to their fan base ... much like rock ballads and crap like Janie's Got a Gun did to Aerosmith's fanbase who were into their earlier ROCKS type material, Queen was another example and dozens of other bands.
@@atlasgunther8947 Yes, I remember when Def Leppard used to kick ass. Then they turned into Journey.
@@MotoXplorALLL of them sold out ... put their fans under the bus for fame and fortune ... tho a tiny few didn't in Britain
I loved the Fair Warning album and I guess one of the early albums naturally has to be the "worst selling." I wore out a bunch of 8-track and cassette tapes of the first album too and I was listening to Van Halen during my first bust by the cops in 1982 on the FIRST NIGHT I`d ever took a toke! And I was already in a band for months even before drinking for the first time. Whiskey quickly put me in a hospital with a bleeding stomach and a doctor "unofficially" recommended herb to help me heal...which I was PROMPTLY busted for and several more times in latter years. And my reputation was destroyed.
@@baneverything5580 Only if you let it. Many of us have risen to overcome our 'reputation'. I took LSD, told a whole bunch of people that I was God and climbed on top of a police car and told the officer that he was a figment of my imagination. Still get jobs, gigs playing bass and have friends. Made it to age sixty somehow and doing better than ever.
There is no doubt that both singers turned out some good songs so there is equal grounds on that. However Roth as always been an egomaniac with a big mouth.
Which is exactly what you want for one the the best rock frontmen ever
Van Hagar rules.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 except he's just an ok singer with ok songs. He should sing in his key, not screach
@MISSTERYDIVA Dave now sounds like a wounded animal singing. Sammy like him or not still has a great voice.
equal grounds? You can name the great hagar-VH songs on one hand. The great VH songs with Dave you need at least 4 hands.
I’d like to hear more about that accounting lady and the the paychecks and bonuses 😊
LOL
And why she was backstage
Dave made a flippant comment to Axl that he would never say now (although the Travis Scott show was never stopped when audience members were crushed and trampled so it still happens) but Dave also talked about playing club shows where there were bikers and someone was killed during their show. The ironic part is that a few years later, 2 riots happened at GNR concerts that people were injured at, and Axl encouraged the audience to beat up people in the audience that were annoying him. Of course that wouldn’t happen now either, especially after a mic toss in the audience led to him being sued. Back then if someone got hurt at a show, they’d get stitched up and brag about where they got it to their friends .
Diamond Dave has *always* been off the rails -- and I love him for it. Dave took chances that *skyrocketed* Van Halen into the stratosphere.
it was eddie guitar that skyrocketed them, not them fluffy first singer.
@@skriptico It was both.
100%. Dave is the legend here. Along with Eddie. Wolfgang hasn't done a thing, but apparently eat a lot (sns).
With what, bottle rockets? 😂
If it weren't for Hagar, Van halen would be a forgotten has-been relegated to the dust bin of pop music history.
Amen people don’t get him
I’m amazed Roth is still around. I’ve personally seen him so high he looked like he was going to OD right in front of me. As well as seeing him stumbling around the forum by himself wasted.
High on what, coke? He didn't do H right?
He always stayed in a healthy weight range. He was very athletic. That, combined with a high tolerance for partying, meant he could survive.
I’ll never forget my one and only run in with DLR, some time in the spring of ‘89 at the Rainbow bar & grill, very late at night. He was in the very back of the bar. Couldn’t miss him. Making a complete spectacle of himself, wasted out of his mind on god knows what, yelling incoherently and repeatedly falling down off his barstool. He had an entourage with him but they were all kind of ignoring him at that point. Probably embarrassed to even be associated with him. I mean it was actually pretty sad. He was still somewhat successful at the time with his solo career, but you could just tell he had peaked already, and at that point had begun his downward trajectory to shitsville. I didn’t go anywhere near him that night. I was literally afraid of getting puked on.
@@Peasant_in_a_treeYes, he was mainly a major coke head, and *LOTS* of alcohol. Pills too. I’m sure at some point he must have at least tried heroin, but as far as I know that was never really his thing.
@@CooManTunesYeah he’s always stayed lean and fit. And is a natural athlete. Some people are just blessed like that.
Big Van Roth fan but I do have to admit that 5150 is one hell of an album.
OU812 too. But even so they don't beat any older VH album, only on par with one or two from the original line up.
It's the best VH album.
It was all we had back at that time, so had to make do with it. After that album, it was no Van Halen anymore for me.
If they called Tyler & Perry the Toxic Twins for their drug use, then Eddie, Alex & Dave would have to be the Toxic Trio for their personalities. How poor Mikey managed to spend all those years in the middle of that shit fight without losing his mind is really worth thinking about.
He speaks to his ability to tune it all out probably. Lol.
Imagine coming into a massive band like VH because your dad is the guitar player, kicking out a 33 years member and having an opinion about VH.
exactly. He's done nothing. VH is no more.
The Van Halen brothers were notoriously toxic.
Beep Bopp Boop, errrrrrrr
So was Dave.
F David roth! Shut up, you nothing.
Totally. Funny how it always seems to get blamed on David. I love Eddie, but if you listen to his interviews back in the day, he's very petty and loves talking sht about Dave.
Three singers and two bass players later, they all seem to have one common denominator.
I'm glad I got to see the 2002 tour. Despite all the drama, both put on a great show, and Dave still sounded great. It will be a cold day in hell before that ever happens again.
Great singer! As a person not a person I would bother with Look at Hagar he can still sing at his age & everyone respects him. The kid is a prodigy nuff Said
Hagar can still sing at his age and Dave can't. Too bad Dave wrote all the great material. He was bad ass in his day. He really owes no one an explanation. Co-writing six classic albums say more than Dave ever can.
SAMMY IS AN ICON AND INCREDIBLE PHILANTHROPIST SO GROUNDED IN REALITY. I HOPE HE STAYS AWAY FROM ALL THIS HOO HAA.
DLR was the ultimate frontman thru the fisrt 6 albums, but was ahorrible joke after he came back. He was great to see on tour for 2 hrs but I can't imagine having to tolerate that kind of hyperactive narcissism on the daily, much less to be trapped in a tour bus with.
I agree, and couldn't tolerate him for 5 minutes.
IMHO, this happens in a lot of bands:
Eddie was a musician, Dave was a showman. they both needed each other to get to the top. once they made it, it was like Eddie resented needing a showman and Dave resented the focus being on the musician.
for Eddie it was the music, for Dave the show.
and once they weren't struggling to make it any more, they started struggling with each other.
Van Halen was like a great car. Edward was the engine, Mike and Al the fuel and spark plug. But Dave was the driver. Hard to keep it on track but always finishing first.
@@dwaynejessome1728I was thinking the chassy but your analogy works
Van Halen was great, but I don’t see why they need to still exist as a band.
@@TheRealCaptainFreedomI felt that way about as long ago as the mid 80’s.
@@Shikta-poobah67 I love the Rolling Stones, but let’s be honest they haven’t been good since the 1970s.
@@TheRealCaptainFreedom Some Girls was the last great Stones album, and that was after something like a 6 year period where they were making some pretty mediocre albums. Even with 70’s Stones, I tend to have to cherry-pick songs from everything they put out from Goats Head Soup on up to Some Girls.
I can only speak for my daughter when she was two her biggest Idol was David Lee Roth I even took her to David Lee Roth concert oh goodness she absolutely loves him. As far as music bands come and go they split they get back together again they grow they do their own thing it is what it is
People don’t get and can’t handle how smart he is
Went to high school with Michael Anthony ,nicest guy you could ever meet, great player ,great guy
In fact, Eddie van Halen liked Diver Down! In a Guitar Player interview from 1982 Eddie stated: "We spent 12 days making the album... it was a lot of fun!"
Vanity leads to INSANITY 😢. Enough said
Indeed ! Pray 🙏 for DLR “Just” a Look at Him and You Can SEE He’s Sick 🤢😧😢‼️
@@allanramusiewicz996You Wouldn't Make a Patch on His(Roth's) Ass....
@@allanramusiewicz996right on!❤
Man, true on so many levels.
@allanramusiewicz996 You can pray for him if you want, but by the time your God comes out of retirement DLR will be Runnin With the Devil.
Dave was a EMT in New York city, he helped save 100's
of victim's live's.
They saw him, thought they were in Hell, got up and ran.
Probably most were on drugs
Hard to believe
I imagine him more as Tom Sizemore's character in Bringing Out the Dead
😂😂😂
Hey, if even OZZY thinks the man has a screw loose, I would treat that as credible. Love me some OZ!
I didn't know that Chumlee joined the Band! Huh!
OMG... That is too funny!!!!!!!!
My friend grew up in Pasadena, Ca where they were from and he would go to house parties and Van Halen would be playing at some of them and he said he was in a bedroom smoking weed (very illegal back then) with some people and Roth came in and said "whose got some good smoke for Old Dave"!?
Then they hit the big time
I saw Van Halen open for Black Sabath in 1978 and they blew BS away. WHen BS came out on stage apeople were still chanting VAN HALEN!!!!!! In 78 they were incredible.
I saw that tour in Dallas and you are exactly right! VH made Sabbath look like tired old men.
@@robertspence831 I was at that show too. Sabbath put on a great show. Iommi was on fire that night. JMHO.
I Can Say Ive Met Wolf when He Opened For Guns In Detroit, He Is Kind ,Talented and Ive Met Dave Years Ago,Wolf Is By No Means A Bratty Kid,Hes a Grown Man and Is Respectful, Dave Was An Idiot,Enough Said🎸Hagar Rocks🤘
Great vid, but I disagree with one comment the narrator made: He said Eddie wanted to do dark heavier songs , where as Roth was more interested in showy stuff. If you look at what happened to VH after Roth left, they did NOT become "Heavier"---Quite the opposite, they got more commercial and more pop oriented. I think Roth wanted a more blues /hard rock approach, and Eddy wanted to have more keyboards and go that route, which is one of the reasons that VH with Roth didn't last. Eddie had been trying to bring keys into VH for years(Cradle will rock, One Foot out the door, Dancin in the Streets), but Roth had always vetoed it, saying "Youre a guitar hero, no one wants to hear you play keyboards. On 1984, Eddie did 2 very mainstream songs with keys(Jump and I'll Wait) and both were huge hits. On 5150, they did 3 keyboard songs: "Why cant this be love?", "Love walked in" & "Dreams"---So VH wasnt going dark, he was going light. LOL
If Dave had not left VH would have died soon after.
Dave is a 2 trick pony that was all out of tricks.
VH did done great songs but mist of their best were covers. Eddie had riffs but needed sone one to put them together. Sammy did that.
Also Sammy let Eddie experiment and try the things he wanted you to try but could not with Dave.
"VH did done great songs but mist of their best were covers"..."Also Sammy let Eddie experiment"... Seems like Sherry swished so hard that her brain got separated from her spinal cord.
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Eddie didn't "tire of singing lead", Alex had to force him to stop. Ed thought he was a better singer than he was. This is the source of Ed's horrible treatment of Mike Anthony. Ed was jealous that Mike got all the credit for backing vocals. Sad. Long live the Mighty.
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Thanks for this, very well done and certainly some revelations that few outside the industry would have known.
I love the track "Jump" but apart from that all I can say on this is RIP Eddie.
Sometimes egos on either side are too big to stay together.
DLR and VH did great work together in their heyday, but it
was inevitable they would want to express themselves
away from each other.
Wolfgang should do a tribute with Sammy and Michael anthony including alex VH and leave roth out of it
Wolfgang is really a cool dude though. The truth is that DLR can't do a full set of VH classics now. He could handle like 2 tunes then something happens to his voice.
"This hamburger don't need no helpin' " 💀
In Roth's 2020 Las Vegas shows, Roth's voice sounded like hamburger.
@billbrasky7540 In Roth's 2020 Las Vegas shows, Roth's voice sounded like hamburger. It needed helpin'.
But the groupies were still there. Tuna helper.
without Eddie Dave is just a flamboyant jerk amounting to nothing.... and that what VH 1 needed to balance it right...tipped Eddie in balance.. dont ask how that works but it does..
Having seen a handful of Roth live performances over the past decade or so, maybe he NEEDS those rehearsal pants!
To answer Dr. Love: Narcissism happened to Dave.
Funny I really liked fair warning, completely disliked diver down, my least liked VH album
So Wolfgang had everything handed to him on a silver platter and he’s just having fun.
He wasn’t handed all that talent! That’s funny!
Handed to him WTF bro do you know how many instruments Wolf plays at a high level, nobody hands you that , you get that from practicing your fucking ass off for years
He’s fat
@@davemiles3387If you believe in genes and natural talent... He absolutely was. A generational musician and an acclaimed actor for parents...
Ironic coming from Roth. He only got into VH because he had a PA system that his dad could afford. The dude came from wealth and got to play rockstar.
I remember I saw him live 0:11 with VH. It was so entertaining to watch him sing the lyrics when he felt like it. He did a lot of improvisation and weird stuff.
As a teenager in 1978 of course I was a huge Van Halen and Diamond Dave fan.
But now as an adult I don't know how Eddie made it that many years with him.
His Mental Health is an obvious issue.
Substance abuse keeps you extremely immature and delusional. David Lee Roth is acting like a Teenager at the height of Stardom.
I wonder what his diagnosis is. Something terribly wrong there for sure.
@@user-xp3po8wu7u probably just high
they changed my life , 1rst album was unreal
Wasn’t the vocals that did that.
Career guitar player here disagreeing.
@@davemiles3387
@@davemiles3387The vocals were definitely a part of it for me. The most obvious part is the guitar. That goes without saying, but for me VH’s initial impression was a package deal. It was a whole new sound at the time in ‘78. A new kind of hard rock that would forever change the landscape in the years to come… and that couldn’t be credited to just one band member. It was definitely a sum of its parts.
Ummm...
Ya, VH changed many lives. Clearly inspired countless to-be musicians. @@R-Christensen
Yeah what the last guy said. I know that for me personally, there have been several key gigs/bands that were such a pivotal, earth-shaking experience for me that I can honestly say that they were life-changing. I’m not necessarily referring specifically to VH (though they came damn close the first time I saw them), but the first time I saw Black Flag in December ‘80 it set me on a completely different trajectory than what I had previously been on. It was a total reset for the direction in life that I was heading in. There were a few other gigs at various points in my life that had a similar effect on me. That’s how powerful a force music can be.
I’ve heard plenty of other people say they’ve had the same experience. It happens.
8:30 I don’t know who the hell Ozzie thinks he is, criticizing other people for their behavior. Especially after everything we know about him and the way the Osborne’s treated Jake E Lee among other bandmates. Those people are total scumbags. Dave was right. By Sharon‘s own design, her husband is product.
DLR said he didn't like Ozzy's music though. He threw the first stone. Ozzy has a far more successful career in heavy metal and is more talented vocally than DLR. His work with guitarists Tony Iommy, Randy Rhoads, Jake E. Lee and Zakk Wylde are monuments in metal, DLR's early work with Eddie are classic hard rock and for that he's a classic. But there's no way he can throw shade on Ozzy, Nobody can shade Ozzy for his music, just the drug and booze binges he was famous for and how Jake E. Lee and some of the other players in that band were kind of ripped off, but I don't know I see they all have writing credits on the albums.
Tony *Iommi
@@metalmike570 You are exactly right. Dave is nothing compared to Ozzy. He has no right to judge what is and what is not heavy metal compared to the popcorn song and dance bullshit he does. He's like the Michigan J Frog in the Bugs Bunny cartoons.
@@NotMorganFreeman. 😆
@@NotMorganFreeman. 💯
Wow. Time has not been good to DLR.
DLR “ This hamburger don’t need no helper”. Hahaha
La vida no es facil para el hombre entrado en años , pero es menos dificil si se retira honorablemente y feliz de sus logros . La era del rock al igual que toda era historica cumple un periodo, forzar al cuerpo anciano a desempeñar un papel de joven es como un adulto que use pañal y tome biberon . La experiencia de un veterano es respetable y enfocada en compartir conocimiento con los que vienen surgiendo es una mejor forma de dejar un legado .
Nepotism? Didn't Dave's uncle Manny give him his first gig? 😂
no
Still Dave's father was a doctor. Dave comes from a well to do family. He even had ballet lessons and martial arts. He was born into money and it helped a helluva lot.
Man those van Halen albums with Roth were so amazing, absolute masterpieces in every way. They completely changed my whole approach to guitar as an impressionable teen. But like so many great artists, guy seems a little unhinged. EVH too. But in the end, it doesn't take anything away from the music. It's just maybe a little disappointing when you find out your heros are as imperfect in their personal lives as you are.
If I was to speculate and lay blame I can say this. There are certain types of people who bring out the worst in others. There are people who can irritate you to a level where in spite of your best efforts, you find it hard to stay calm and chill and eventually lash out at them regularly. I can imagine that being trapped in a bus for hours and days at a time with DLR, I'd also be at my wit's end. Just listening to one of his podcasts leaves me exhausted! 🤣
You are a wise man/guitarist, I feel the same. When that first album came out in '78, as a young guitar player, like so many others, it was mind blowing. Even now realizing Dave is not the greatest vocalist, he was perfect for that group, and the four of them together created the magic. Before the internet it was great because we didn't know any of this bs about their personal lives or problems, as much as I'm interested in everything evh, I wish i did not know any of that crap, it's really about the music, and that's all that matters. All these folks talking about Dave or Sammy.. if they are not musicians, they have no clue, VH was great with both singers for so many different reasons. I am glad to have had both forms of Van Halen in my life. Sammy has been kicking ass since Montrose and is still going strong. It's all good. rip evh.
Ozborne criticizing Roth about his metal state is next level.
New found obsession with synthesizers. Lol EVH was a trained pianist.
I bought those Montrose albums. I don't hate the early Hagar stuff. Like everybody my age, I bought the first 6 VH albums. Those are ALL killer NO filler. I bought them on cassette . I bought them on CD. I bought Dave's ... Gigolo single and the Eat 'em & Smile album. Those Van Hagar albums aren't so so bad, but honestly I only care for 3-4 songs across ALL of them. Someone gave me ...Carnal Knowledge. I don't know where it is. The original VH was MAGIC live too..Great GREAT show. Top 3-4 for me & I've seen LOTS of shows.
12:29 Damn. That is my absolute favorite VH album. The first seven songs are so great they make up for the last two, "Sunday Afternoon in the Park" and "One Foot Out the Door."
Van Halen bringing in Sammy Hagar was the best move they ever made, and really when i started liking Van Halen, Sammy Hagar rocks and is a legend in my music history.
The albums with Dave, and the ones with Sammy were both great! I liked both! Dave’s efforts were more of corny cover songs, and some of the Sammy songs sounded almost to commercial near the end! Both had faults, but also great strengths! In the end, it was the Van Halen brothers who controlled everything! I really never forgave them after pushing Michael Anthony out of the band! Just as well, I guess, since they never did anything good after that!
Despite millions of dollars, I guess dentistry isnt part of the plan?
Going to so many concerts where often they were both on the same ticket it just breaks my heart & pisses me off they can't stop long enough to rock out for the fans every now & then.
Lots of famous singers and guitarists fight--Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend, or Steven Tyler and Joe Perry.
Pledging allegiance to Roth
Valerie Bertinelli hated Roth, and I can only imagine how much of that she downloaded into her kid… as women are often given to do
Because of Roth, there was a Van Hagar… and sure, Hagar had a fairly good career before VH, but how many more _I Can't Drive 55s_ do you think her was gonna write
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Dave's closing question: "Where is Jump being played, right now"??
Most likely answer: ... An elevator....
On classic radio at times and a couple of other VH songs in my country(New Zealand).
So in other words, everywhere
@@GoodAfterNoonOne of Scammy's parrots repeating Scammy's 🐂💩 .
It was cheaper to let him in the band then to keep renting his PA system. Whatever it was, 74-84 was a hell of a run, even though they didn't become huge until 1978-79.
So many storylines to discuss on the subject of Van Halen . This video highlights personality conflicts and over-sized egos so its a reminder of how much is wasted by relatively petty differences fuelled by someone consumed by their ego & an overwhelming desire to control & be the center of attention.....just imagine if DLR wasn't like that, imagine the music that VH would have gone on to make. On the other hand when Sammy became the singer the band did in fact go on to produce some great stuff and deliver amazing shows. Their tunes will live on and so will the memories of attending concerts and being transported to another world by the band, particularly Eddie.
Jump is being played through the grocery store PA.
Yup-commercial CRAP by the time of that album.
Might as well..........
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I didn’t know Fair Warning sold poorly at the time. It’s a great album. I agree with Eddie. Diver Down is their worst album.
Half of Diver Down is covers I think, but Pretty Woman is a better cover than Roy's version.
Sometimes it's still played on the radio.
I do know that Dave prefers gigantic over-sized surf boards. I witnessed it live on a stop in Binghamton, NY on his Skyscraper Tour in 1987.
Its sad they both have talent and it would be great see them together..
My sister worked with him at WBCN Boston when he had a morning show. Not good stories. He's apparently an awful heartless human being. Only other lead singer I know who is as abysmal as this guy is Gene Simmons.
Yea eddie also said sammy quit too
In a VH3 album promotion issue of THE INSIDE MAGAZINE Alex , Edward AND Mike said Captain Candyass quit . And in the individual interview with Mike the reporter told him Sam said so himself didn't want to do the greatest hits album . Even though he released a greatest hits album himself . Even though Warner Brothers DEMANDED the greatest hits album Scammy still lies saying he was fired . He had the option : do the greatest hits album or quit .
The Van Halen reunion show with Roth is the only concert I've ever walked away from. Roth was awful and even Eddie's guitar playing couldn't save the night.
The Toastmaster General of the Immoral Majority, Diamond Dave is one of the greatest rock frontmen in history. I truly like his solo stuff from the 80s and obviously his VH stuff.
I also really like Sammy, both his solo work and his VH stuff.
Different styles, different sounds. I'm glad we got both.
First Montrose Album > VH with Roth > VH with Hagar.
Funny , you mentioned Montrose . Scammy blames other people for that band ending too . Seems like Scammy tried taking over Montrose too .
@@user-rt9zq8rs9k And without Sam's vocals, that band was never the same. See if you can spot the trend here. How many huge bands actually get bigger with a new front man? AC/DC, VH, maybe a handful more.
@@ocan1033 They never got bigger . Sam never sold more albums than Dave did with the band .
@@user-rt9zq8rs9k Total LP sales, yes 27M Sam v 57M Roth. But took Roth 7 LPs to reach that mark, only 4 for Sam. Tours and money got bigger under Sam. By any mark they were hugely successful with Hagar .. name another band, besides AC/DC, that changed the front man mid-career and went on to bigger things.
@@ocan1033 so the tours got bigger is because the world population got bigger . And yeah the band got #1s with Sam BUT the sales would drop quicker too .
Replacing Diamond Dave with Sammy was a sad joke. Wolfgang replacing Michael was a fat joke
The the fat kids ! Its crazy. There is many.
Dave's head got so big, he couldn't get through a doorway . Sammy made him look easy to replace. More #1s, with Sam.
@@jeff82z28 DLR VH had better songs than Sammy ever dreamed of
Sammy smoked Dave. Eddie said Roth can barely sing 5 notes. Sammy can sing any note and didn't and doesn't need Van Halen for fame, writing, playing, touring, making money, etc. He can play as good as Eddie as can many. Van Halen matured with Hagar and was infantile with Roth. Eddie could play and the rest were young and full of energy. That's it. Take Eddie out of Van Halen and who cares. Roth is just the jew who took as much credit as possible. lol Typical. Anthony and Hagar are the only non-losers.
@@Jumanjini you are absolutely correct. Sammys solo work was alright, as was Daves. But they were boring AOR with Sammy, just a totally different band. I loved the infantile VH and being technically a good singer is not always enough (Hendrix, Dylan and so on). Dave had a certain delivery that was missing later on.
I personally protect my feelings regarding Roth and VH. I JUST listen to the old music and remember it for what it was. I played and worked with a singer bass player that reminded me so so much of David Lee. So hard to work with and so hard to just be around and when he calls it’s hard to even pick up the phone.
I met DLR several years ago and he was really really nice and turned me on with some great weed.
Why does Wolfgang look more like Michael Anthony than his father?
Uh...he looks way more like his dad than he does Michael.
Actually he looks like Valerie does now with some Eddie, he looks like mom and dad😊
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He definitely does look like his mom. I realized that after seeing them together.
Maybe that's why Michael Anthony had been kicked out of the band and given up some of his royalties, cause he snuck in and had an affair with Yoko, I mean Valerie, and got her pregnant, then made Eddie think it was his.
Dude... 😲
"Dave made an ass of himself, but he wasnt attacking anyone.
They not only 'fired' him, Eddie and Alex gave interviews trashing him.. again.
He was over-excited.
He never trashed Sammy and Eddie until they trashed him back in the 80's. He never said anything about Wolf until Wolf started blaming him and calling him out.
Right now, Wolf is creating the drama and Dave finally responded."
I have always loved the Album names EVH chose
So catchy and original
I love them all… great music all around … 🪦 Eddie 😢
" Diamond Dave"?....Not Anymore!😮
( I used to like " The Human Cartoon", but I knew it was over when he performed a " COUNTRY"
version of "JUMP" on Letterman.)
Everyone has something to say about DLR because HE IS THE LEGEND. He will forever be remembered as the ultimate frontman of the 80s.
Jim Dandy had the 70s. Dave ruled in the 80s. Legends!❤
no Genius, he'll be remembered as a toxic Narcissist POS who lost his voice because he smoked too much crack.
Very true. But for some odd reason his live singing on stage was the shits.
Eh
If you're into a guy in metallic leotards frolicking around on stage. I'll take Hagar any day who was rocking long before Roth was on the scene and long after. Listen to the stuff from the Montrose days, Hagar had already created the sound in the early 1970s that Roth and many others copied.
I wish that Dave would just sit tight and keep his mouth shut except to sing. He is tarnishing a fantastic legacy.
Rock-n-Roll may never die, but time stops for no one. Is alls I'm sayin... subbed, u r funny.
Dave Rocks!
I was 16 in 1978 when my brother found a brand new 8-track of VH's first album on the side of the road here in Barstow, CA. He said "check out this guitar player!". We wore that tape out as the bong bubbled, LOL...Van Halen had a few good songs after that, but the follow-up albums weren't the same. We always thought Dave was a weird dude, and he acted FRUITY on stage -embarrassing. We knew Sammy from Montrose, and I liked a lot of his stuff with VH. Wolfgang's band is really good, and he's got some good songs. He's got the torch now, Dave does not....
BINGO 🎶♥️🎶♥️🎶♥️‼️‼️‼️
Love Eddie, but Wolf’s band sounds like Nickelback🤣
@@slappywag7210 Wolfie is a Shadow of His Old Man.... No Comparison....
Great comment. I can picture it. Those were the days. Found an 8track on the side of the road and discovered Van Halen! Awesome.I once heard a story of a guy who discovered the Misfits the same exact way. He was walking down the road and found a homemade compilation tape in the road of the Misfits he had no idea who they were and said from that point forward they were his favorite band.
Everyone has been very cautious when it comes to David Lee. The term Egg Shells is a nice way saying Roth is still a Primadonna. & His Life Style 🌈Conflicts with the other Members of the Band.
Take it or leave it. I wouldn't want the watered down version of roth, then he might not be as entertaining. I think the saying "don't meet you heroes" is true. I'll watch, but don't want to meet. It is what is, They got along long enough to make some great records, appreciate that.