Filling My Off Road Tires with WATER!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Most off road enthusiasts are familiar with airing down their tires, for traction and comfort on 4x4 trails, and of course airing them back up once you're ready to hit the pavement again. Jeep Wranglers, Ford Broncos, Toyota Land Cruisers...whatever your off road vehicle of choice is, airing down to proper tire pressure is something you ought to know about. For some extreme rock crawling rigs, though, filling your tires with air isn't the only option - adding water into your tires can improve how your rig performs on extreme rock obstacles. So of course we're gonna try it!
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We didn’t think we needed to say this, but just to clarify - this is for low speed off road and extreme rock crawling application only. This is not something you should do to a rig that is driven on road or on highways. If you do, you’re gonna have a bad time. 😁🤙
So True, Thank You. Happy Trails
I have like five friends that follow you in Gypsum like an hour east of grand Junction we don’t have buggies but would love to go wheeling with y’all if you’re around this direction
I suppose I learned something new. I've never heard of putting water in tires. I'd rather be proven wrong once than continue to be wrong forever.
True that!!
we need to take disclaimers out of society or for thanos to snap those fingers.. way to many people who don't have sense enough to not know how to live life
So much innuendo. Yes my mind is in the gutter too. Can't wait to see the video this winter, "We forgot about the water in the tires". You jinxed it when you said it.
Windshield washer fluid rated to -20-30 is the cheapest way to put non-freezing ballast into tires. Rimguard, beet juice, is heavier per volume but it's expensive. The worst part about liquid ballast filled tires is when you have to remove them for repairs. Your formerly manageable weight tire/wheel now weighs two or three times what it used to. Have fun taking it off and putting it back on.
Tractors use Rimguard . It is basically pomegranate juice, protects those expensive wheels from rusting inside out .
Haven’t seen a video in a while, I still thought Kevin was dead.. never knew what happened, I vaguely heard about a wreck.. good to see he’s alive
Water and lead shot is crazy don't want to move at all
I've used windshield washer fluid its good to 17 below in my tractor tires, gives you 8lbs per gallon.
It's more relaxing to push snow in a tandem axle dumb truck with the spreader in the back full of salt and toped off fuel tanks. When you start to get light it sucks...... So, weight in your off-road application is just one of many situations where adding weight is good!
tractors in southern Missouri use 50/50 methanol water and they don't have passenger style valve stems so there's a different tool for filling with fluid. and they aren't filled to a certain weight. they need to be filled to about the top of the wheel so the fluid stabilizes in the tire and isn't sloshing to and fro causing the vehicle to lurch.
Instead of water which can freeze and corrode the rims, you should consider the fluid they use for tractor tires called Rim Guard.
You can use antifreeze with water in tractor tires too.
@@Craig_Narramoore But water with antifreeze will still corrode, Rimguard won’t. Hence the brand name.
Winter Window washer fluid is what my Grandpa used to use . Never understood when I was a kid. You guys always have me rolling 😂😂. Great video guys, I appreciate you guys so much ❤❤💯🤙
Good Info thanks Grandpa!
RV antifreeze works pretty good too
@@jonaathansimons7938 Sweet thanks!
So complicated - I just want a simple WWII Jeep, or a LJ..with a V-8...! So are those now Watered-Down Nittos? Great that you have such good knowledgable friends, and so nearby. Buggy still looking great. Nice to have y'all in town for a minute or two. LiteBriteNationWetsTheirNittos!
I prefer my nittos moist too. Let us know your thoughts on this tho... never heard of doing this before.
We've always added fluid to tractor tires here and have recently heard of this for rock crawling. Bad part is, if things go south and you flip the water shifts and increases your momentum in that direction.... Sounds like you need another shop mechanic!!🙋♂
@@joemcgee2918 No, He's busy getting Bec's LJ done. It's priority right now!!
Been running calcium in the tires of our logging skidders since the early 80’s and the new more environmentally friendly option is beet juice and is what I have in my tractor tires currently.
Now that you have to deal with heavy tires, I recommend a tire jack. It cradles the tire, you chain it to the jack and the jack has wheels to move jack and tires away saving your back.
Beet juice is perfect. I have it in my John Deere. It actually weighs more per gallon than water . And is 100% non corrosive , and believe it or not you can drink it , so it is environmentally safe and wont hurt rims or tires ..
Thank You for the Reminder
In the 90's I had a Tecate 4, 250R built for TT. Took off the rear dunlaps, filled using wet saw dust, topped off w/ 1 can of green film fix-a-flat. This after losing many rear bead lock tires on the chain side, full throttle in 4th doing large clockwise turns on the homemade field track.. I needed to find more traction/ less bounce= less repairing wheels= more fun. Funny what we do to find our happy place.
Use RV fresh water system antifreeze. The pink stuff that is used for storing your RV in the off-season. It's also safe for rubber.
Woody took us up joint effort during ultimate adventure 2017. Great guy.
Great video, but I miss the endings with Jelly running and playing.
Rim guard is beat juice that is used in many tractors tires. It reportedly doesn’t freeze, doesn’t rust, and is Eco-friendly. There are some agricultural suppliers that will send a truck to your location to fill or pump down your tires. A better solution than water, and I think it’s heavier.
windshield washer fluid works great for your tires. Milwaukee makes a transfer pump to use to fill your tires if you use something other than water.
Good info here!! and the last part of the video is so true! Oh yeah now we have to try to remove and install the wheel and tire that weights a 150 pounds!! 😬😬😬
Just pull the diff cover and grab the pt# off the locker. RD 188 is 40 spline 4.56 and up.
I'd be curious about using RimGuard ( beet juce) instead of water. Among other things it is used in tractor tires for extra weight but won't freeze and is non toxic. It does stink though.
RV antifreeze in my subcompact loader as well as my other subcompact I mow and plow with. Very nice traction increase as well as better side hill stability. I'm filled 90%, just enough air for expansion and decent ride.
Farmers in the south use saltwater here, where I live. The tractor dealer shop has a water/air station. Thanks for sharing.
Imperial gallon is ten pounds water. In Canada we use a mixture of salt and calcium with water that does not freeze. It also adds weight to the water. Farm tractors and loaders use it to increase traction and as counter weight.
The salt can cause corrosion on any exposed metal.
@@robertheinkel6225 True, but Many ag tires have tubes. And the brine is used to prevent thw water freezing.
Here in western PA we always used calcium chloride in our tractor tires. That was also a million years ago so there likely have been some advancements since then.
Love all your rigs. Love Kevin’s humor and Brittany gets more beautiful with every video!
Looking forward to seeing side chick wheeling with this new upgrade
That is exactly what I was just about to tell them that we used in our Tractors in PA as well and never had an issue with freezing or solidifying but this is the first time I have watched them and I liked the video so of course I had to like and subscribe so that means I am looking forward to more content !!!
I wont use that anymore. I use beet juice or washer fluid.
I remember this from when I was young. Wondering why calcium cloride? Is it heavier? For an antifreeze? Anti corrosion?
@@currentliveoccupant for sure because it doesn’t freeze. I can’t say if there were other reasons or not
Wouldn't the water make the axles and drives haft break easier?
We use beet juice in our tractor tires here in Maine because it doesn't freeze
She could point out the differences in textures of mud and dirt and she would draw a crowd, Supermodel that isn’t afraid to get dirty
I run a tractor store we water up most tractor tires here. Use RV coolent so they do freeze in the winter. And it's easy to clean out if you need to patch a tire.
We use calcium in industrial and AG tires. Will not freeze here in Utah. Nasty stuff though.
Awesome attitude about the hot tub Kevin. I love your hot tub. We got it delivered in September last year and love it especially when it was winter and sitting outside in it. You guys will have to show us your hot tub when you get it.
Hey, kids, if you're going to be in Grand Junction - - don't forget to get a few pounds of Enstrom's Toffee. It's the best toffee you'll ever be near.
Here in Styria/Austria we fill the tires of our vineyard-tractors for the very steep slopes the vine is growing with water for decades. Works very well as long you do not try to drive the tractors onroad at speeds above 10 km/h.
Great way to get a lower center of gravity. Also a great way to twist your frame. But you don't need to fill them all the way up with water.
I was actually thinking somewhere around 1/3 volume to maybe half volume but I’m thinking you want to keep the majority of the added weight below the center of the axle.
To prevent rust on the inside of the rim, the fluid level should be above the top of the rim.
Holy crap Ari😂. That was awesome in Grdloc. Hope you were wearing your brown pants 😂😂
I used to run 225 pounds of lead in front and 60 pounds in the rear on my old comp buggy. Found lead shot worked better than straight water. Never tried both.
Not sure about a Jeep, but I do this in my tractor tires. Its 2 wheel drive, so all the extra weight in the back in the tall tires is great to lower center of gravity and add traction.
Can have similar benefits for extreme rock crawling applications ☺️
I love taking out the Side Chick!! Especially when she loves ounces and positions! 😂
I had never heard of this before, but as soon as I saw what you were doing, I knew how smart this was because it was going to lower your center of gravity to the extreme as long as you’re going slow enough
Construction rollers, the type with steel drum on the front and rubber rear tires put calcium in the tires I believe. Been a longtime but pretty nasty green fluid comes out when they pop. No idea what the value of calcium would be except a very low freezing point.
Ya adding that much weight inside the tires is going to do a couple other things you don’t want. 1. Wheel balance issues 2. Steering effort will increase (acts like a gyro) 3. Increased braking and acceleration efforts (rob power). 4. Your driveline is not prepared to handled the extra twisting force (break axles) 5. The whiplash affect from stops 6. Whatever shocking tuning you did was a waste. Other than making weights on scales you significantly lost performance in all aspects of what it was designed to do. If you want to lower the front COG for crawling use hydraulics to drop the suspension height in the front or raise the rear. Hopefully the lugs don’t break.
I don’t think you realize this is just a rock crawling buggy. It doesn’t have any of the issues you stated above except for possibly breaking axles due to the increased weight and traction but that’s also where driver experience comes into play. This mod is not for anything that drives at highway speeds. The vehicle is purpose built for rock crawling at slow speeds like our last video.
Should of filled the tires with Budlight.
🤣🤣🤣🚙🚙
Rebuild the buggy. 14 bolts front and rear with rear steer.
I think we can all agree, Britney is not fat. I would say she is stunningly beautiful.
Damn Britany looks like an animated superhero
Back in the 50’s and 60’s we used liquid calcium in the farm tractor tires. And it didn’t freeze.
Yeah, but it ate the rims
Done this on tractor but never on anything else. Great video!
At the beginning of the vid when you said we're taking the Side Kick, I swore you said Side Chick which would be a great name btw 🤣
You heard her right. Side Chick is the name of this buggy. Hahahaha
10/10 can confirm, my buggy is indeed named the Side Chick. 😁🤙
You're better than me whenever people start talking math,i just walk out of the room.🤪
Depending on how cold it gets there another liquid to use for cost effective is windshield washer fluid. Just get the type for your climate. I run it in my plow tractor and I get traction for days.
Are you guy ever going to come back to Oregon? That was super fun. Wheeling with you guys
Hopefully one day! It was definitely a blast!
Damn I haven’t seen y’all in awhile. Sold my jk jeep 4 years ago. I miss wheeling. But I needed a truck again. Id have to get a 2 dr manual next time around.
Kevin.... you are my hero! Damn!
I live in Seattle area and this top has been perfect the last year and a half I've had it on my JL. Surprisingly no problems with the elements!
Impossible to look away from this great content. 👍 That does really look like heavy load on the engine, suspension and steering.
My god you are beautiful.
Always so much to learn on here.
Metonal and water work great 👍🏽
Farmer I worked for filled the tires on his fleet of John Deere tractors with a water/calcium chloride mix
Why not add 50/50 glycol/ water. That way won't freeze and won't have to worry about freezing
In theory could you get the same effect with the self balancing powder (sand) they use in tractor trailers without the sloshing weight shifting effect? I'm new at this but it seems like eliminating all of that weight shifting back and forth would be a benefit...
did this years ago to do a dmv tilt test - passed and then the guys said you passed go get the water out of the tires
Have you fixed the Full Throttle injector problem
They used to use beet juice to put in tractor tires. Because beet juice does not cause.. corrosion. You might want to consider something like that if you're going to keep them filled long-term...
Preparation h does feel good on the hole.. just a little Austin Powers reference 😂
It might be a good idea to convert the Buggy to a dual ended center mount ram. Your setup puts a ton of stress on that driver kingpin/ upper inner C.
Living your best lives!
Has anyone ever tried non-newtonian fluid in tires for rock crawling? Just curious?
We honestly don’t know 😶
@1:56 wheelbase isnt measured at the rim. It's measured hub center to hub center. So yours is about 120" assuming the other end of the tape was in the correct spot
You can absolutely measure wheel base from front/rear of the wheel rim to front/rear of wheel rim. Which is what we did here. Assuming you’re not running oval shaped wheel…the math works the exact same. 🤙
Front of the rim to front of the rim. Rear of the rim to rear of the rim. Center hub to center hub. Front of the tire to front of the tire. All of these are literally the exact same measurement (unless something is jacked on your rig). The measurement we have in the video is accurate. 🙂
Great Content 👍and your friend is knowledgeable about what you have going on with your buggy
Thanx for Sharing
Have a Great Day 👍
God Bless America 🇺🇸🙏🇺🇸
Thanx
That has to be adding a 1000 lb pull to the entire drive train. Seems nuts.
Wheeling on water lilys now, Gold as always. Stay froggy ;)
The mindless entertainment of Kevin is awesome... he cracks me up....
20 below wind shield washer fluid is what I use
Fluid blasting wheel is the cheaper solution that comes with the inherent risk of dynamic shift in center of gravity. Solid wheel weights is a much safer engineering solution.
Yea know Kevin was a fire dawg. 8.34. Lol
With this heavy wheels vou can get problems with your wheelbaerings, or not?
Wheel bearings support the weight of the vehicle, not the tires. The wear on tie rod ends is a different story
So cool. Good luck. Take care.
Curious why 40 spline is better than 35? Doesn't 40 mean the distance between the spines is closer and higher chance of stripping? Excuse my ignorance just trying to learn
I had an offroad truck with a flat sat for a while. When I aired it up and took it out, it had a crazy wobble over 20mph. Took it to a tire shop thinking the wheel needed balancing,. Techs were pretty upset when they put it on the machine and a bunch of water came out
Definitely don’t want water in the tires on a vehicle driven on pavement or highways. 😅😅
You should have woody on the channel more.
Order 40 spline stubs and drive flanges then you dont have to buy a new locker. Inners may live, may not but thats a future issue
Maybe brake line is hanging it up. looking forward to seeing the new trail in Grand Junction
Think the piston was just kind of seized from sitting for long periods outdoors. Kev manually moved the piston & it freed up after a bit.
@@LiteBrite previous gen ford 150s front brake lines deteriorate from the inside and let fluid out to the caliper but will not let it return. That is why I suggested that. It was intermittent on my f150.. really odd. take care you guys. :)
I feel like doing this would cause more trouble than its worth. 200 extra pounds to each tire adds a lot of mass that would just cause damage a lot easier.. or am I wrong here?
Absolutely can damage things but that’s the price you pay to do extreme obstacles and rock crawling at a higher level.
Britney is hot your buggy needs a rear steering. It looks great. 👍
Wheelbase is measured from center of axles.
You can also measure wheel base from the rear of both beadlock rings (or any other equal distance from center of the hubs). 🙂🤙
Calcium and beet juice is heavier and it doesn't freeze what weight your tires is night and day large percentage more traction
Good bless those camera angles
Great video thank you!
You had me at "Filling my"
You gotta be totally nuts seems like a good spot to try it out.
Always enjoy reading people comments and seeing their reactions. Maybe putting an ink mark that flashes off-road use only in the middle of the screen pereoticly might help with the people that missed what you said in the very beginning of the video whenever you said , OFF ROAD USE ONLY 👂🤔🤨 😂😅 ..... Stay amazing guys, I hope your concrete turned out great. Have a great weekend ❤️❤️💯🤙
Goto Yukon gears and hub extreme locking hub kit
Why not use calcium? Farmers have been using calcium in tractor tires for years. I just bought a used ford tractor and was told by the guy I bought it from that my back tires weigh in around 1,000 per tire. Calcium weighs more and won’t freeze in cold weather. So you need less to make weight and you don’t have to take it out in the winter.
Beet juice. Used in tractor tires all the time.
I was wondering why y’all weren’t filling with the air valve stems high and pulled.
They only wanted them half full
Farmers have been filling tractor tires with water for years.
Yeah.... they said that a few times in the video