Hey Max! Would really love to have your input on this ASAP. Two years later, and (I'm assuming) countless updates after, is there anything on the market that gives you the same features both on video and photo for around the same price as the NX1? Because I need to upgrade to a near-perfect hybrid and haven't been able to find anything that comes close to this camera, even considering the lens system and video codec. The Sony A6300/A6500 also caught my eye, but the form factor on those cameras is atrocious and the battery grips are laughable. Stabilization and accurate autofocus are two features that I really want, but if I had to prioritize, I'd place a good auto-focus system above IS. Also, does the NX1 have anything equivalent to a flat picture profile for video? Is it any good? Thank you very much for your time!
hey max i have seen all your videos on Nx1 i shoot product reviews (smartphones) and i am looking for a 4K camera so can u suggest which will be a better choice i have a budget of $2499 max! I will shoot most of my videos indoor and in artificial lighting conditions.
Nice pointing out the video camera/ dslr tax. That was one of the first things I learned and (somewhat) took advantage of when I was deciding between a handy cam type camera or a dslr. I think back when the taxing started the video camera was in such high demand they added that tax. Upside, you can get professional video cam results with a dslr, downfall, 30 min record time. And the time may vary as my Nikon d5200 gets 20 min... That might be getting mixed in with the processors getting too hot tho. Interesting stuff though. I'll have to look up that new law you are talking about they may pass.
Thanks for this. I have seen a dazzling 7.9 ms rolling shutter rating for the NX1 at 1080p. (Not sure if it's accurate?) If it is, I don't understand why this factoid/feature isn't being shouted to the mountain tops. Only the Arri Amira and A7R II (at HD crop) are better at 2 and 7 ms, respectively. With the superior video CAF tests I've seen, outside of low light, this is THE video camera to own!
Hey Max, that is exactly what I did, sold my GH4 and bought this NX1. The GH4 is a fantastic camera, but for me this camera has what I was after image wise, it has a little bit of a Nikon D800ish looking picture that, for my eye, is very pleasing. I've only used some very old Nikkor glass on this NX1, and I'm probably going to stick with all manual lenses for my video work.
Hello Max, Love your Channel! Got a question for you. Would you recommend the NX1 as an all in one camera. Pictures/Video? Right Now I have a Sony SL1 and a Panasonic FZ1000 that I going to sell to either get the GH4 or the NX1. I know that the GH4 is older , less megapixel etc... But I rented it for a wedding video that I did with the Sigma Lens and speed booster and It looked amazing. (No autofocus or image stabilization though) Guess my question is with all the pros and cons would you recommend the NX1 instead of the GH4. I have about $2100 Budget.. I know GH5 is coming out soon but just the body might cost more than $2100. Thanks so much!
The NX1 is just about as bad as the A6300. Both have bad rolling shutter because they are reading out 6K and supersampling into 4K. The NX1 also doesn't have built in image stabilization, you just use lenses that have it if you need I.S. The NX1 does have software O.I.S but its not great, and can ruin shots. Think warp stabilizer but you cant undo the effect once its recorded in camera.
thanks for the updates, was waiting for the comparison! Is there a reason you're still filming this with the gh4 and not the nx1? And how do you like the photo quality? all the examples i see look like there is an odd grain in the bokeh (at any iso), and I havent heard a single person mention that
I haven't noticed the grain your speaking of. I'm filming it with GH4 because I wanted to show the NX1 on the gimbal and mainly having the the flip out screen on the NX1. in my opinion the photo quality is much better on the nx1 compared to GH4
Hi Max I noticed something... I have a Samsung nx1. My Computer ,,Win. 8,1 Pro,, is capable to read H265 codec and Premiere CC 2015 too -after last update ... The problem is that it can not read the ,,Gamma D,, setting (super flatt) and Master Black Level.... Rocky Mountains also ignores those settings too ... read them only in Samsun. Movie Converter... Next thing is that I use Anti-aliasing & Moire Filter created fof Canon Eos 70D and after modification for NX1 works great....
Thanks, Max, this was very well-done and most useful! I am ready to move up from m43 to APS-C or FF and I'd get an NX1 now if it weren't for the low-light video performance in 4K _and_ the lack of a fully-articulating screen. The latter will sound trivial too many, but if you're a wildflower photographer and shoot a lot of very low angle stills in _vertical_ format, you'd rather not have to keep flopping onto the muddy ground. Hopefully Samsung can make everybody happy in this regard with future models.
Having used both Nikon & Canon Cameras I actually quite prefer the Nikon styled ISO left control dial arrangement & the flip out screen is quite ok , a rather trivial complaint.
I have read elsewhere that the speed the buffer of the camera runs full has also to do with the write speed of sd card that is used: when the sd card writes fast, the buffer becomes free faster for new data. Maybe something to test out?
You seem to have the most input on the NX1. Have you used it with a steadicam? It seems to be a lot harder to balance than my Nikon, and to me it looks like the mount isn't quiet center. Just wondering if you've experienced this, there's not much info out there. Thank you Max!
Good video. i don't think any of these problems are a big deal at all, which is why i love this camera. like the 29 minute record time? i will never record that long. ever, lol. and i record weddings. that one was a little knit picky, but there was more validity in some of the other criticisms. Also the codec. Yes, its a hassle. But it also has benefits which you mentioned in the video. And it will eventually be supported, it'll be a win win eventually.
Hey Max, I can get an NX1 for $1050 right now, it includes a 16gb sd card and the 18-55mm lens. Do you think this is a good deal? It seems like the converting would be a pain but let me know if its worth getting that for the price or if I should just save a little more and go with the GH4.
Did Samsung's new firmaware help with low light at all? Would be nice just to have a video on their 1.2 firmware update. No one else has that full review yet.
If your shooting 1080p yes. In 4k I dont think so. My full review will be based on firmware 2 that's why I dont have it out yet. Want to make sure I can test out updates.
Max, you shoot your reviews with a GH4 and recommend the NX1 over the GH4 on your website. So 2 questions: 1. Why do you not shoot your reviews with your NX1? 2. I really am damn near ready to buy the NX1 but I'm still not sure about the rolling shutter. I see the stuttering with videos of cars driving along for example. Is there any way to crop the 4k recording (and still have the output be true 4k) like in the NX500 so that rolling shutter is limited (ie have the camera sample less of the sensor)? This is cheaper than the GH4 and at the upper range of what I can afford, so do you have any other suggestions for cameras that do 4k video, 1080p 120fps, and take good pictures? Thanks
Vaga Liki This is the best hybrid, much much better for photos than the GH4 and much better for slow motion. The reason I use Gh4 is flip screen so I can see myself, and no need to transcode. For shots of myself the higher 4k video quality and better low light doesn't matter when I am using lighting anyways and am just sitting there. Go for the NX1 its a better camera overall!
Regarding the flip-screen: they probably have chosen the current solution due to robustness. It's harder to make a weather sealed flip-out and rotating screen. It has more rotating points you need to seal, etc.
Hi Max, lovely video mate. One question: which camera shall one buy which has 4K video capability for making cinema like videos as well as nice family still images within $2K?I appreciate your time.
Great video! I hear that the a7s is getting an update that will let it record in 4k internally. Now that's going to literally be the best camera out imo. On the other hand, how do you like using the go pro 4 black edition with your phantom 2 plus gimbal setup? I've been looking to get one plus an for setup as well for arial video (mostly for music videos, and weddings, but who knows lol).
Actually my gimbal was having issues right from the box so I ended up sending it back. Was going to order another one but the Inspire 1 was announced so i'm saving up for that!
Hey Max, there´s a bunch of comments at the personal view site stating there´s a problem with the AGC in this camera that makes the audio while using a mic virtually unusable, "forcing" to use a external recorder setup to get proper audio. Care to comment about this? Cheers.
Max Yuryev Thanks. I believe I cannot post it here on UA-cam, but let me know if you can´t find the exact link, so you can see what they´re talking about
Did you check out rolling shutter? it is supposed to be really bad in this field. And what about dynamic range? www.cinema5d.com/lab-review-samsung-nx1-video-mode-frustrating/
Hey, Thanks for all the good info. So I have an NX1 and during a video shoot it suddenly shut down even though there was 30% battery life left! The video file I now have is corrupt. Is there any way of repairing it since it is h.265 and most "video repair" software is only familiar with h.264?
it is worse than the GH4 but not worse than A7S (in my experience with all three cameras. with the a7s and 55mm 1.8 lens I could see some rolling shutter when hand holding the camera. I have not noticed it with NX1 with 45mm 1.8 which is equil to 67.5mm
Wow, thanks! I guess IS would help with rolling shutter, but the 45mm doesn't have IS. I do notice this on the GH4 because when I use a speedbooster, I don't have IS, and rolling shutter affects many of my shots, even at 35mm using a should rig.
hey max, i ve been following your take on cameras, want to ask an advice from you, between these three cameras which one would you advice someone who is much in videos music production to go for, Canon 5d mark III, Samsung NX1 and Black magic camera
+Freddy Nezzer definitely not the 5D. The NX1 would give better low light results than the blackmagic, but the blackmagic cinema camera will give you a more film like look, and better dynamic range. If your talking about the blackmagic 2.5K then I would go for NX1. If your speaking about the Blackmagic Ursa mini 4K, i'd likely go with that, but it will cost about 3x as much for the body, battery, media.
Hi Max, just wondering. Having gh5 on the market and other similar cameras, what would be the good to go upgrade coming from nx1? would it be gh5 or a7sII ? or should i make an effort and go straight to 1dx mark2? To be honest i liked the compromised that nx1 offered back in the day. Good sensor, really good codec, beautiful colours and really good still, but not so good rolling shutter and other video throwbacks. Anyways, gh5' sensors sucks and a7s II is not good for stills so i really don't know what will be next for me. thx
I'm in the same boat, but honestly I haven't seen a suitable replacement for the NX1. I think the (rumored) forthcoming A7 III may be the first camera to truly surpass it. Even 3 years later the Samsung kills it on video and stills like no other camera. The Fuji X-T2 is interesting, but doesn't have the one thing the NX1 lacks to make it truly future proof - IBIS. Unless you're hitting limitations with glass, I'd say stick with the NX1. Otherwise you probably will have to move to a 1DX2 and break the bank.
Hi man very good job, can you do me a favor and make a comparing between the Nikon D750 and Sony A7s especially in low light video, Thank you very much I appreciate.
Hello, I have an 7dmark II an a Sony A7r, I need a camera to record sports videos, do you whink that NX1 is a good option or I should go for GH4?, what do you think? , Can you give me an advise… I am a photographer, a kind of neophyte in video.
Max Yuryev But how about DOF for sports, I think that maybe NX1 is more complete but I am not sure if I can record tennis players with that camera, now I'm doing that job with an 7d mark II and I am not happy. I will never change mi 7d mark II for photography but in video I really do not like.
My problem is that background is blurry and sometimes the players move to background and AF system does not adjust anything, so I think that this problem can be solved with GH4, however, I do not know which one is the best for sports videos, also I thought about A7s or canon C100 or something like that.
Andoni Villarreal Ok I thought that may be the issue. The GH4 would be perfect for you then! Even at F2.8 shooting 4k the DOF would be similar to shooting the 7D at F4 but your lighting will stay the same. The Autofocus is not as good as the NX1 but with having more in focus that will be fine.
just bought one. Amazing. LCD = horrible with just up and down & no left to right. HDMI is Confusing and frustrating. Not any of the standard connections for that. What you see on the screen before recording is not what you get after hitting record. Guess that is good for those that use light meters for proper exposure. If not, its frustrating.
Ted Irving GH4 uses same HDMI output, the USB is new Micro USB 3.0 which allows you to use the standard micro usb 2 like with most android phones to charge/transfer, or use a new micro usb 3 like with new Galaxy Note phones for faster transfers. Before hitting REC. turn on movie preview mode and you'll see exactly what you'll get with a 16x9 aspect. Another trick if you want to shoot quicker is turn your photo aspect ratio to 16x9 as well and then you don't have to think of the 16x9 format for video.
I agree with the top left wheel, I don´t like it one bit either. I believe you can program ISO to one of the 3 back buttons, not sure if that´s what you´re doing here spinning the wheel like that or another setting. One problem which I believe it´s important for many people, including event photographers, is the lack of a silent shutter. It´s actually of the worst things about this camera, to me, and most especially when other rival cameras, like the A7S, do have it, being even better in video and with a sweet FF sensor. And very interesting comment about the noise at higher ISOs, that´s something I haven´t considered and may end up being a bigger problem than I thought, since I presumed the pretty clean lower ISOs would scale proportionally. I´d love to see some more samples about this issue. And finally, glad to see you didn´t list the excellent video-AF on this camera as a "con"... ;)
Yep, most of the downsides are also irrelevant for my use. I'm glad the screen isn't a typical flip out, way to fragile. The buffer isn't an issue either. Unless you're a professional sports photographer, which you wouldn't be shooting with this camera, how many photo's do you possible need? Half-hour record limit, again, how long do you need it? Even for events, you'd better be shooting that with at least two cameras rolling simultaneously, so it's just a simple matter of staggering the record. Low-light, I would agree with that, however, I haven't had the opportunity to shoot with an extremely fast lens, so that may make a little difference, but all in all, yeah, I'd like to have seen clean all the way up to 3200 ISO. The H.265 transcoding really doesn't bother me to much, as most of what I shoot, I next to never immediately go into the edit. Hopefully, we all won't have to worry about that to much longer. Lastly, forgot to add above, the single file created for the half-hour record, definitely trumps having it span an unlimited record.
I'm typically recording events with 3 cameras. Its nice to set it and not have to go re set it. At times I'm not able to move if I have to record something going on and my 3rd safety cam ended stopping recording for a bit of time. But this issue isn't huge I'd still buy 3 of these and sell GH4's if it had h.264 codec :) It seems the NX1 will work great for you, have you picked one up yet?
Max Yuryev Great in depth discussion, thanks! Do you just have to press the shutter to restart a new clip , how long a lapse in an event situation is there going to be?
Daniel Donner You prese the little record button. If you practice you can do it in 1 second so its not too bad but if something important is happening you can still loose something. What I've done in the past is start to get ready at 25min and wait till I can tell the speaker pauses then reset really quick.
I agree with everything but the flip out screen part: my g7 has stood a thousand and on etempest but still works perfectly. On the other hand, rx100 mk i is wearing out a bit :(
+1 01 I actually have the nx500 and the nx1 when they came out to be honest I was a Canon fan boy I had the 60d and 7d but nothing compares to the nx1 it's a really good buy the picture quality is AMAZING and video is just beautiful ... it's a beastly machine for slow motion as well .. you should go for it man don't even think about it
+1 01 look to be honest that's a lot of money buy the body by itself and buy your self the lenses aside it's cheaper .. well I got my nx500 for 800 when it came out and my nx1 for 1,500 body ... you should look into Rokinon lens 85mm it's actually a f/1.4 wich is BEASTLY FOR PICTURES AND VIDEOS but it's going to be hard cause it's Manuel everything this is one of the best lens I have it goes for 270.. I also have the 45mm f/1.8 goes for 234 on amazon also the other nice Lil kit lens to get is the 16-50mm lens . first go for the camera get that Rokinon and a battery grip wich would be really needed or go for the 45mm you'll be good with these for now unless u don't mind spending a lot of money but these are the lenses that I have right now I am going to buy later that expensive lens but it's too much hahaha just go for the Rokinon 85mm it's wonderful look up reviews before anything ... and no I wasn't in the military lol I only have like 15 friends in it haha but yeah man go for it and buy some nice lenses
In my opinion Samsung make the best TV's, the best Cell phones, the best underrated cameras and they make good laptops as well. Your review is nickpicking an awesome piece of kit.
Yeah, I hear ya, there's no way you could use this camera for anything like a wedding. I'm guessing a camera could in fact have to codecs within? If that holds true, then I would have to agree with you on that point also, include H.264 as well. Samsung, I know you tune in to Max's UA-cam Channel, listen to him!!!
nice. I purchased the 7000 a year ago and was disappointed that it was a 16bits motor. Have to upgrade mine to the 32bits motor. Hoping to see your 7800 in action with the gh4. The same build I'm trying to go for.
Elements no. No program supports it yet, premiere pro will get support in about a month but elements will probably take between 6 months to 2 years to gain support (and of course you'll have to pay to update to the latest version once they release it)
hello friend.. how r u .. i saw ur GH4 & NX1 youtube video. its realy nice..bro i m from bangladesh. i have one production hosue.i made some TV drama. now i m thinking made a movie. cane u told me wich 4 k camera gud for movie shoot also low price.because i have budget problem also.. i want ur help. plz let me know. one more think NX1 gud for movie shoot also support EF mount lens. because i have rokinon EF mount lens.. thanks
You are nice i mean gentle or kinda hard to describe.A simple good human. thanks for this. But We would have to wait for either GH 5 if it will have a 5 axis image stabilization and low light powerhouse OR we wait Sony A7s II with in camera 4k recording and 5 axis image stabilization. other than that I am very okay with my GH 3 only till these or similar camera packed feature have been released. and As for the samsung NX 1 too many turn offs. Which if not for your this video many of us would not have known. So thanks so much .
Everyone is all panicked about the h.265. I tried a few converters and the samsung converter works well. For 4k in-body, it doesn't seem like that big a tradeoff. The GH4 cuts clips into 6 minute chunks, which is a huge compromise that you don't have to deal with here.
Yes! I get about 6 hours worth of footage per camera at a wedding. It takes me about 1:2 to 1:3 ratio to convert. So to convert a single wedding it would be 36-54 hours of non stop transcoding. =O
The smearing is not because of h.265, but some internal denoising the camera is doing. The only downside to h.265, as far as I can tell, is that some software don't yet support it. However, that's really a problem with that software and not with the camera. Also, this problem will be going away really quickly, because h.265 is becoming mainstream fast.
Max Yuryev The denoising might very well be in the camera's h.265 encoder pipeline. I just meant that it's not a problem with the h.265 format itself, but was put there on purpose by Samsung's engineers.
Marcus Sundman I think that's probably what it is. Looking at photos and then the h.265 video the photos are at least 1 stop cleaner maybe more and without smearing.
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Hey Max! Would really love to have your input on this ASAP.
Two years later, and (I'm assuming) countless updates after, is there anything on the market that gives you the same features both on video and photo for around the same price as the NX1? Because I need to upgrade to a near-perfect hybrid and haven't been able to find anything that comes close to this camera, even considering the lens system and video codec.
The Sony A6300/A6500 also caught my eye, but the form factor on those cameras is atrocious and the battery grips are laughable.
Stabilization and accurate autofocus are two features that I really want, but if I had to prioritize, I'd place a good auto-focus system above IS.
Also, does the NX1 have anything equivalent to a flat picture profile for video? Is it any good? Thank you very much for your time!
Simple answer is no. I still own 3 NX1's. Yes there is a gamma DR more which is basically a flat profile (not not log)
hey max i have seen all your videos on Nx1 i shoot product reviews (smartphones) and i am looking for a 4K camera so can u suggest which will be a better choice i have a budget of $2499 max!
I will shoot most of my videos indoor and in artificial lighting conditions.
I think it would be a good option as long as you don't mind transcoding. get the kit with 16-50s lens would be perfect.
cool bro thank you so much and no video since so long?
also it is better than GH4 right?
I think your making some of the best video tips on you tube....Trust me I've seen alot...Bravo , your very straight forward direct and informative....
Nice pointing out the video camera/ dslr tax. That was one of the first things I learned and (somewhat) took advantage of when I was deciding between a handy cam type camera or a dslr. I think back when the taxing started the video camera was in such high demand they added that tax. Upside, you can get professional video cam results with a dslr, downfall, 30 min record time. And the time may vary as my Nikon d5200 gets 20 min... That might be getting mixed in with the processors getting too hot tho. Interesting stuff though. I'll have to look up that new law you are talking about they may pass.
Thanks for this. I have seen a dazzling 7.9 ms rolling shutter rating for the NX1 at 1080p. (Not sure if it's accurate?) If it is, I don't understand why this factoid/feature isn't being shouted to the mountain tops. Only the Arri Amira and A7R II (at HD crop) are better at 2 and 7 ms, respectively. With the superior video CAF tests I've seen, outside of low light, this is THE video camera to own!
Hey Max, that is exactly what I did, sold my GH4 and bought this NX1. The GH4 is a fantastic camera, but for me this camera has what I was after image wise, it has a little bit of a Nikon D800ish looking picture that, for my eye, is very pleasing. I've only used some very old Nikkor glass on this NX1, and I'm probably going to stick with all manual lenses for my video work.
Hello Max, Love your Channel! Got a question for you. Would you recommend the NX1 as an all in one camera. Pictures/Video? Right Now I have a Sony SL1 and a Panasonic FZ1000 that I going to sell to either get the GH4 or the NX1. I know that the GH4 is older , less megapixel etc... But I rented it for a wedding video that I did with the Sigma Lens and speed booster and It looked amazing. (No autofocus or image stabilization though) Guess my question is with all the pros and cons would you recommend the NX1 instead of the GH4. I have about $2100 Budget.. I know GH5 is coming out soon but just the body might cost more than $2100. Thanks so much!
Well the Samsung quit the camera market so no future updates or lenses so the NX1 is a no go for most people. Look into the Sony a6300.
Oh I did not know that! Thanks so much.
A 6300 has a huge rolling shutter problem and no OIS Have that in mind. Otherwise, Max is right. It's a great option.
The NX1 is just about as bad as the A6300. Both have bad rolling shutter because they are reading out 6K and supersampling into 4K. The NX1 also doesn't have built in image stabilization, you just use lenses that have it if you need I.S. The NX1 does have software O.I.S but its not great, and can ruin shots. Think warp stabilizer but you cant undo the effect once its recorded in camera.
Max, do you know if USB Tethered Shooting provides Live-View on computer as well as on camera?
thanks for the updates, was waiting for the comparison! Is there a reason you're still filming this with the gh4 and not the nx1? And how do you like the photo quality? all the examples i see look like there is an odd grain in the bokeh (at any iso), and I havent heard a single person mention that
I haven't noticed the grain your speaking of. I'm filming it with GH4 because I wanted to show the NX1 on the gimbal and mainly having the the flip out screen on the NX1. in my opinion the photo quality is much better on the nx1 compared to GH4
Hi Max
I noticed something...
I have a Samsung nx1. My Computer ,,Win. 8,1 Pro,, is capable to read H265 codec and Premiere CC 2015 too -after last update ... The problem is that it can not read the ,,Gamma D,, setting (super flatt) and Master Black Level.... Rocky Mountains also ignores those settings too ... read them only in Samsun. Movie Converter...
Next thing is that I use Anti-aliasing & Moire Filter created fof Canon Eos 70D and after modification for NX1 works great....
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I think they will be coming out with updates continually. Even 1.2 is buggy and another update should be coming.
Agreed!
Thanks, Max, this was very well-done and most useful! I am ready to move up from m43 to APS-C or FF and I'd get an NX1 now if it weren't for the low-light video performance in 4K _and_ the lack of a fully-articulating screen. The latter will sound trivial too many, but if you're a wildflower photographer and shoot a lot of very low angle stills in _vertical_ format, you'd rather not have to keep flopping onto the muddy ground. Hopefully Samsung can make everybody happy in this regard with future models.
Having used both Nikon & Canon Cameras I actually quite prefer the Nikon styled ISO left control dial arrangement & the flip out screen is quite ok , a rather trivial complaint.
Nice review, thanks. What's the stabilizer I see in the background? Are you happy with it?
I have read elsewhere that the speed the buffer of the camera runs full has also to do with the write speed of sd card that is used: when the sd card writes fast, the buffer becomes free faster for new data. Maybe something to test out?
Yes it does have something to do with it to a point. Check out my video on NX1 Buffer.
I was just about to say, new toy? Then you said it lol. Can't wait to see that vid!
yup should be great!
You seem to have the most input on the NX1. Have you used it with a steadicam? It seems to be a lot harder to balance than my Nikon, and to me it looks like the mount isn't quiet center. Just wondering if you've experienced this, there's not much info out there. Thank you Max!
I'm considering both the NX1 and the GH4, which would you recommend?
Good video. i don't think any of these problems are a big deal at all, which is why i love this camera. like the 29 minute record time? i will never record that long. ever, lol. and i record weddings. that one was a little knit picky, but there was more validity in some of the other criticisms. Also the codec. Yes, its a hassle. But it also has benefits which you mentioned in the video. And it will eventually be supported, it'll be a win win eventually.
Hey Max, I can get an NX1 for $1050 right now, it includes a 16gb sd card and the 18-55mm lens. Do you think this is a good deal? It seems like the converting would be a pain but let me know if its worth getting that for the price or if I should just save a little more and go with the GH4.
asan all around camerI like the nx1 more. I would go for it if you don't mind converting
Did Samsung's new firmaware help with low light at all? Would be nice just to have a video on their 1.2 firmware update. No one else has that full review yet.
If your shooting 1080p yes. In 4k I dont think so. My full review will be based on firmware 2 that's why I dont have it out yet. Want to make sure I can test out updates.
Max, you shoot your reviews with a GH4 and recommend the NX1 over the GH4 on your website.
So 2 questions:
1. Why do you not shoot your reviews with your NX1?
2. I really am damn near ready to buy the NX1 but I'm still not sure about the rolling shutter. I see the stuttering with videos of cars driving along for example. Is there any way to crop the 4k recording (and still have the output be true 4k) like in the NX500 so that rolling shutter is limited (ie have the camera sample less of the sensor)?
This is cheaper than the GH4 and at the upper range of what I can afford, so do you have any other suggestions for cameras that do 4k video, 1080p 120fps, and take good pictures?
Thanks
Vaga Liki This is the best hybrid, much much better for photos than the GH4 and much better for slow motion. The reason I use Gh4 is flip screen so I can see myself, and no need to transcode. For shots of myself the higher 4k video quality and better low light doesn't matter when I am using lighting anyways and am just sitting there. Go for the NX1 its a better camera overall!
Regarding the flip-screen: they probably have chosen the current solution due to robustness. It's harder to make a weather sealed flip-out and rotating screen. It has more rotating points you need to seal, etc.
Max: good video -looking forward to the full review
Hi Max, lovely video mate. One question: which camera shall one buy which has 4K video capability for making cinema like videos as well as nice family still images within $2K?I appreciate your time.
+V Mann Within 2K I would get the NX1, but I would wait until CES to see what new cameras get released.
Cool. I will look out for your new videos. Thanks for your time.
Great video! I hear that the a7s is getting an update that will let it record in 4k internally. Now that's going to literally be the best camera out imo. On the other hand, how do you like using the go pro 4 black edition with your phantom 2 plus gimbal setup? I've been looking to get one plus an for setup as well for arial video (mostly for music videos, and weddings, but who knows lol).
No chance of internal 4k for the A7S.
Actually my gimbal was having issues right from the box so I ended up sending it back. Was going to order another one but the Inspire 1 was announced so i'm saving up for that!
Max, did you quit riding your bike or is there just a blanket of snow there stopping you?
Snow :(
Hyped for this camera
Hey Max, there´s a bunch of comments at the personal view site stating there´s a problem with the AGC in this camera that makes the audio while using a mic virtually unusable, "forcing" to use a external recorder setup to get proper audio. Care to comment about this?
Cheers.
I have not seen this to be true, mic has been fine for me. I'll try to do some testing.
Max Yuryev
Thanks. I believe I cannot post it here on UA-cam, but let me know if you can´t find the exact link, so you can see what they´re talking about
Did you check out rolling shutter? it is supposed to be really bad in this field. And what about dynamic range? www.cinema5d.com/lab-review-samsung-nx1-video-mode-frustrating/
FYI, Fuji. Fuji has excellent customer service and firmware updates too. The release firmware updates for cameras after listening to customers.
what do you think of the nx2 rumors??? look promising?
You look like Jony Ive with ur new haircut LOL hehehehehe
Thx for ur coverage on NX1. I'm enjoying every second of it ;)
Haha thanks! Its a bit shorter than I wanted, but my hair grows fast so it will be fixed in no time.
Hey, Thanks for all the good info. So I have an NX1 and during a video shoot it suddenly shut down even though there was 30% battery life left! The video file I now have is corrupt. Is there any way of repairing it since it is h.265 and most "video repair" software is only familiar with h.264?
Love my NX1, hate the 30 min recording limit!
Thank you for documenting the NX1. What about rolling shutter? I've heard some people complain that's it's worse than the GH4 and even the A7S.
it is worse than the GH4 but not worse than A7S (in my experience with all three cameras. with the a7s and 55mm 1.8 lens I could see some rolling shutter when hand holding the camera. I have not noticed it with NX1 with 45mm 1.8 which is equil to 67.5mm
Wow, thanks! I guess IS would help with rolling shutter, but the 45mm doesn't have IS. I do notice this on the GH4 because when I use a speedbooster, I don't have IS, and rolling shutter affects many of my shots, even at 35mm using a should rig.
hey max, i ve been following your take on cameras, want to ask an advice from you, between these three cameras which one would you advice someone who is much in videos music production to go for, Canon 5d mark III, Samsung NX1 and Black magic camera
+Freddy Nezzer definitely not the 5D. The NX1 would give better low light results than the blackmagic, but the blackmagic cinema camera will give you a more film like look, and better dynamic range. If your talking about the blackmagic 2.5K then I would go for NX1. If your speaking about the Blackmagic Ursa mini 4K, i'd likely go with that, but it will cost about 3x as much for the body, battery, media.
+Max Yuryev thanks bro.for the clarification, i appreciate
Hi Max, just wondering. Having gh5 on the market and other similar cameras, what would be the good to go upgrade coming from nx1? would it be gh5 or a7sII ? or should i make an effort and go straight to 1dx mark2? To be honest i liked the compromised that nx1 offered back in the day. Good sensor, really good codec, beautiful colours and really good still, but not so good rolling shutter and other video throwbacks. Anyways, gh5' sensors sucks and a7s II is not good for stills so i really don't know what will be next for me. thx
I'm in the same boat, but honestly I haven't seen a suitable replacement for the NX1. I think the (rumored) forthcoming A7 III may be the first camera to truly surpass it. Even 3 years later the Samsung kills it on video and stills like no other camera. The Fuji X-T2 is interesting, but doesn't have the one thing the NX1 lacks to make it truly future proof - IBIS. Unless you're hitting limitations with glass, I'd say stick with the NX1. Otherwise you probably will have to move to a 1DX2 and break the bank.
ISO can be adjusted by pressing the i-function button on the lens. or menu button with the right hand.
John DK Yes you are correct.
Hi man very good job, can you do me a favor and make a comparing between the Nikon D750 and Sony A7s especially in low light video, Thank you very much I appreciate.
Great video Max. Very informative on important parameters. Thanks!
Brani Sulek Glad you liked it!
Excellent review...very helpful - thanks for putting this together!
Hello, I have an 7dmark II an a Sony A7r, I need a camera to record sports videos, do you whink that NX1 is a good option or I should go for GH4?, what do you think? , Can you give me an advise… I am a photographer, a kind of neophyte in video.
If you want to do video autofocus I would definitely buy the NX1 as it will actually work well.
Max Yuryev But how about DOF for sports, I think that maybe NX1 is more complete but I am not sure if I can record tennis players with that camera, now I'm doing that job with an 7d mark II and I am not happy. I will never change mi 7d mark II for photography but in video I really do not like.
Andoni Villarreal Do you want more of less in focus (DOF) as far as DOF the NX1 will be very similar to 7D2 but the video quality is much better.
My problem is that background is blurry and sometimes the players move to background and AF system does not adjust anything, so I think that this problem can be solved with GH4, however, I do not know which one is the best for sports videos, also I thought about A7s or canon C100 or something like that.
Andoni Villarreal Ok I thought that may be the issue. The GH4 would be perfect for you then! Even at F2.8 shooting 4k the DOF would be similar to shooting the 7D at F4 but your lighting will stay the same. The Autofocus is not as good as the NX1 but with having more in focus that will be fine.
just bought one. Amazing. LCD = horrible with just up and down & no left to right. HDMI is Confusing and frustrating. Not any of the standard connections for that. What you see on the screen before recording is not what you get after hitting record. Guess that is good for those that use light meters for proper exposure. If not, its frustrating.
Ted Irving GH4 uses same HDMI output, the USB is new Micro USB 3.0 which allows you to use the standard micro usb 2 like with most android phones to charge/transfer, or use a new micro usb 3 like with new Galaxy Note phones for faster transfers. Before hitting REC. turn on movie preview mode and you'll see exactly what you'll get with a 16x9 aspect. Another trick if you want to shoot quicker is turn your photo aspect ratio to 16x9 as well and then you don't have to think of the 16x9 format for video.
Awesome! Thanks for the tips
I agree with the top left wheel, I don´t like it one bit either. I believe you can program ISO to one of the 3 back buttons, not sure if that´s what you´re doing here spinning the wheel like that or another setting.
One problem which I believe it´s important for many people, including event photographers, is the lack of a silent shutter. It´s actually of the worst things about this camera, to me, and most especially when other rival cameras, like the A7S, do have it, being even better in video and with a sweet FF sensor.
And very interesting comment about the noise at higher ISOs, that´s something I haven´t considered and may end up being a bigger problem than I thought, since I presumed the pretty clean lower ISOs would scale proportionally. I´d love to see some more samples about this issue.
And finally, glad to see you didn´t list the excellent video-AF on this camera as a "con"... ;)
I've been really impressed with the video AF. Silent shutter would have been nice for sure!
i like the nx1 . think new adobe premiere support the codec.. is it true? Thanx for great videos/ fredrik
+konden66 Yes! Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Hello, can you help me with the defenitions on the video of the nx1? what is the best configuration? Tanks
Fernando Santos I'd shoot Gamma DR mode in UHD 4k.
Yep, most of the downsides are also irrelevant for my use. I'm glad the screen isn't a typical flip out, way to fragile. The buffer isn't an issue either. Unless you're a professional sports photographer, which you wouldn't be shooting with this camera, how many photo's do you possible need? Half-hour record limit, again, how long do you need it? Even for events, you'd better be shooting that with at least two cameras rolling simultaneously, so it's just a simple matter of staggering the record. Low-light, I would agree with that, however, I haven't had the opportunity to shoot with an extremely fast lens, so that may make a little difference, but all in all, yeah, I'd like to have seen clean all the way up to 3200 ISO. The H.265 transcoding really doesn't bother me to much, as most of what I shoot, I next to never immediately go into the edit. Hopefully, we all won't have to worry about that to much longer. Lastly, forgot to add above, the single file created for the half-hour record, definitely trumps having it span an unlimited record.
I'm typically recording events with 3 cameras. Its nice to set it and not have to go re set it. At times I'm not able to move if I have to record something going on and my 3rd safety cam ended stopping recording for a bit of time. But this issue isn't huge I'd still buy 3 of these and sell GH4's if it had h.264 codec :) It seems the NX1 will work great for you, have you picked one up yet?
Max Yuryev Great in depth discussion, thanks! Do you just have to press the shutter to restart a new clip , how long a lapse in an event situation is there going to be?
Daniel Donner You prese the little record button. If you practice you can do it in 1 second so its not too bad but if something important is happening you can still loose something. What I've done in the past is start to get ready at 25min and wait till I can tell the speaker pauses then reset really quick.
I agree with everything but the flip out screen part: my g7 has stood a thousand and on etempest but still works perfectly. On the other hand, rx100 mk i is wearing out a bit :(
Hi Max!
Waiting my NX1
Please suggest best canon ef to samsung nx1 lens adapter with aperture control.
there's one good ones that I know of unfortunately
Do you have a review on the Samsung NX500? Thanks for this review. Keep making videos!
The camera will be released in about 3 weeks so after I get it I'll be doing a review.
Great CANT WAIT!
thank you
Hello again, does you now if the US model of Samsung nx1 work in Europe? Tanks
I dont think there I'd a PAL mode you need the European version but I could be wrong. I'd Google it.
Max Yuryev most hardware nowadays supports both NTSC & PAL....
Can I get the link for the app I need to edit with that I need to download you were talking about for the codec?
+Polo Danni Go with " Edit Ready"
+Max Yuryev thx
UPDATE for this video - there is already Adobe premiere native support for h.265.
hey brother I tried uploading some nx1 videos on UA-cam and it keeps saying unsupported video format
+1 01 thanks brother I got it :)
+1 01 I actually have the nx500 and the nx1 when they came out to be honest I was a Canon fan boy I had the 60d and 7d but nothing compares to the nx1 it's a really good buy the picture quality is AMAZING and video is just beautiful ... it's a beastly machine for slow motion as well .. you should go for it man don't even think about it
+1 01 look to be honest that's a lot of money buy the body by itself and buy your self the lenses aside it's cheaper .. well I got my nx500 for 800 when it came out and my nx1 for 1,500 body ... you should look into Rokinon lens 85mm it's actually a f/1.4 wich is BEASTLY FOR PICTURES AND VIDEOS but it's going to be hard cause it's Manuel everything this is one of the best lens I have it goes for 270.. I also have the 45mm f/1.8 goes for 234 on amazon also the other nice Lil kit lens to get is the 16-50mm lens . first go for the camera get that Rokinon and a battery grip wich would be really needed or go for the 45mm you'll be good with these for now unless u don't mind spending a lot of money but these are the lenses that I have right now I am going to buy later that expensive lens but it's too much hahaha just go for the Rokinon 85mm it's wonderful look up reviews before anything ... and no I wasn't in the military lol I only have like 15 friends in it haha but yeah man go for it and buy some nice lenses
hey Max could you recommend a all around lens for the nx1 (video)
Thanks for the video
In my opinion Samsung make the best TV's, the best Cell phones, the best underrated cameras and they make good laptops as well. Your review is nickpicking an awesome piece of kit.
excellent presentation - thanks
Yeah, I hear ya, there's no way you could use this camera for anything like a wedding. I'm guessing a camera could in fact have to codecs within? If that holds true, then I would have to agree with you on that point also, include H.264 as well. Samsung, I know you tune in to Max's UA-cam Channel, listen to him!!!
Is that the came 7500 gimbal?
7800 :)
nice. I purchased the 7000 a year ago and was disappointed that it was a 16bits motor. Have to upgrade mine to the 32bits motor. Hoping to see your 7800 in action with the gh4. The same build I'm trying to go for.
Max, does Premiere Elements support the H.265 codec ?
Elements no. No program supports it yet, premiere pro will get support in about a month but elements will probably take between 6 months to 2 years to gain support (and of course you'll have to pay to update to the latest version once they release it)
The exception being Power Director 13, which I think supports the H.265 codec
+Angel Llacuna yes, but you need an Nvidea GPU with an older driver for some reason (or so their site says)
4k record time limit is likely due to processor overheating at a higher limit, not a tax issue.
hello friend.. how r u .. i saw ur GH4 & NX1 youtube video. its realy nice..bro i m from bangladesh. i have one production hosue.i made some TV drama. now i m thinking made a movie. cane u told me wich 4 k camera gud for movie shoot also low price.because i have budget problem also.. i want ur help. plz let me know. one more think NX1 gud for movie shoot also support EF mount lens. because i have rokinon EF mount lens.. thanks
Sohel Rana It has to be the GH4
Man there are no recording limits with the last hack for Nx1
You are nice i mean gentle or kinda hard to describe.A simple good human.
thanks for this.
But We would have to wait for either GH 5 if it will have a 5 axis image stabilization and low light powerhouse OR we wait Sony A7s II with in camera 4k recording and 5 axis image stabilization. other than that I am very okay with my GH 3 only till these or similar camera packed feature have been released. and As for the samsung NX 1 too many turn offs. Which if not for your this video many of us would not have known. So thanks so much .
Thanks for the complements! Hopefully the GH5 will provide IBIS! (and better low light)
Everyone is all panicked about the h.265. I tried a few converters and the samsung converter works well. For 4k in-body, it doesn't seem like that big a tradeoff. The GH4 cuts clips into 6 minute chunks, which is a huge compromise that you don't have to deal with here.
what about the lenses?
Agree with stupid recording limit. That's why I still keep my SONY EX-1R.
Good stuff thanks
Forgot to add, that no doubt having to transcode a 3 camera NX1 talking head shoot would be marathon worth of transcoding.
Yes! I get about 6 hours worth of footage per camera at a wedding. It takes me about 1:2 to 1:3 ratio to convert. So to convert a single wedding it would be 36-54 hours of non stop transcoding. =O
The smearing is not because of h.265, but some internal denoising the camera is doing.
The only downside to h.265, as far as I can tell, is that some software don't yet support it. However, that's really a problem with that software and not with the camera. Also, this problem will be going away really quickly, because h.265 is becoming mainstream fast.
I hope your right Marcus. I guess the only way to test it is using a Shogun external recorder to prores.
Max Yuryev The denoising might very well be in the camera's h.265 encoder pipeline. I just meant that it's not a problem with the h.265 format itself, but was put there on purpose by Samsung's engineers.
Marcus Sundman I think that's probably what it is. Looking at photos and then the h.265 video the photos are at least 1 stop cleaner maybe more and without smearing.
Worst camera I ever had !!
Froze to death on me and not coming back to life !!
Ruined a whole trip for me !!!!
Shame on you Samsung !
Nothing wrong with SD fastest on market and brand new camera and software 1.4 which was just released and 16-50mm "S" lens !!
I think h.265 is supported now
I wish he would have talked about noise performance for stills rather than video.
I like this chanel , every video is in 4k , is awesome if you want to see diferences in tests!.... subscribe!
Problem 6: No decent telephoto primes. 15FPS is good ...but what will you do if you don't even have 300mm lens.
there are too many downsides of this camera. No one is talking about the horribly harsh colors on both the LCD and viewfinder.
Adobe does support H.265 now
Apple Please Up date Final Cut Pro x for H.265
PLEASE PLEASE =)
а на русском?
+Pixel24.ru NO :)
What a pig of a machine - typical touch wiz toss the thing in the bin!