Samsung NX1 Hands-On Field Test
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- Опубліковано 28 лис 2014
- While it might seem like there's a lack of innovation in photography technology right now, the smaller players are making some very interesting strides. The NX1, Samsung's first camera aimed at professionals, brings new sensor technology and a brand new video codec to the market for the first time. But is it enough to make photographers jump on this relatively untested system?
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Watching this again in 2018. Sad thing they stopped developing this promising(back then) system
Watching in 2020 and I agree. I was very interested in these cameras and they're still interesting.
@Epic Rhino Films Agreed. I want to get my hands on one of these cameras, just to play with. I wish Samsung would get back into the camera market.
looking back at this from 2023, pretty amazing they did this in 2014!
2014 wasn’t that long ago
Wow, sounds like this camera was really ahead of its time.
Ha! I started laughing when I saw my tweet appear on the video. Thanks for a great review Chris and Jordan.
Why not recruit a sidekick to bug you too! And how about borrowing an NX1 and weighing in on the debate? Psst: since you pretend to be a dummy (unlike the other sophisticates), why not check whether PowerDirector 13 does a half-decent job of supporting h.265 directly. You've already been candid enough to affirm that to grade s-log files in ProRes is a bit of a fool's errand for most folks.
Hope to hear your opinions on the NX1 Dave Dugdale
cheatingthesystem21 does Dave Dugdale review pre-productions camera? I really liked his GH4 and A7s through review, hope he'll do the same with NX1.
eidrag I'm not sure, but his GH4 review is a major reason that I have one
cheatingthesystem21 and he even show how his workflow when using camera, really helps there.
Most underrated camera of the decade.
This is why I love your reviews. They are always honest, objective and doesn't give in to the hype. :)
I definitely like this style of review. Best if you guys continue this going forward.
These guys did a great, clear, and thorough review of the Samsung NX1.
Awesome reviews guys! Thanks once again.
Great work guys!
This by far my favourite review destination! Thanks
These guys produce hands-down the best camera reviews on UA-cam. Very professional and straight to the point. I admire their commitment. I mean who else is willing to get out there in that freezing cold weather to test a camera. Their videos are dynamic and entertaining. They cover lots of information in a short amount of time. You can tell they know what they are talking about. I like the fact that they cover both, the still and the video aspects of the cameras, but what I like the most is their unbiased opinion. They sell camera gear but they will tell you all the pros and cons; no sugar coating or butt kissing here.
I also like MichaelTheMentor, "mega productions", Philip Bloom, Jared Polin, Tony Northrup "over analytical" style, Matt Granger, Dave Dugdale "down to earth" style, Faymus Media, and Digital Rev Tv (this last one for the comedy only).
Best NX1 review yet. Thanks guys!
Another very helpful review! Really appreciate the integrity of your reviews! Thank you!!
Fantastic, comprehensive review! Thanks guys.
It's actually feels better when Jordan and Chris has more conversation during the video. Having 10 min for Photographic & 10 for Video shutting feels like a good idea because now a days shutting video are more and more common for everyone. However, I wish Chris does not feel upset. Both you guys are really the best ever. This change just make this channel even better.
Watching this in 2020 as someone who wasn't big into camera gear at the time (I just took the recommendation of the b&h guy because I was 14 and was using all my savings to buy a camera) this feels like a camera that does most of the things people like about Fuji cameras right now. Solid controls, good build quality, high quality EVFs and a solid stable of native glass. Maybe the fuji cameras look nicer to most people but I'm actually a big fan of the exterior build they were going for with this body
Most people don't know that Samsung in 2010 created the first APS-C mirrorless camera many months before Sony. Actually Samsung was the third company after Panasonic and Olympus with the micro 4/3 of 2008, that introduced a mirrorless camera for during early 2010. Mirrorless digital cameras for me are those with interchangeable lenses and autofocus.
The problem with Samsung was the lenses. Samsung didn't produce fast a large variety of high quality NX mount lenses. Mirrorless cameras are mostly bought by amateur photographers with some experience who demand a variety of good lenses to choose. Otherwise a smartphone is fine and lately premium smartphones offer multiple cameras with ultra wide, wide, normal or telephoto lenses with the use of periscope design.
Samsung when saw that its mirrorless cameras wasn't very successful tried the NX mini mirrorless cameras in 2014 and NX mini 2 in 2015. Both cameras had a small 1" sensor and the shortest flange focal distance of all mirrorless cameras. The variety of NX mini mount lenses was even poorer than the APS-C NX mount lenses.
The NX-1 of 2014 was the only samsung mirrorless camera with serious quality but it was introduced too late when the domination of Sony and Fujifilm on APS-C mirrorless market was established.
The 2015 was the last year Samsung was interested with mirrorless cameras.
The only Samsung NX mount mirrorless camera I appreciate very much is the Galaxy NX of 2013 with android system. The first camera and maybe the last with interchangeable lenses and with android operating system. The android of Galaxy NX couldn't connect with wifi to internet and had google play store with plethora of photo and social apps. A really amazing cameras the Samsung Galaxy NX and I regret that I didn't bought it then. I could bought it now but its android version is obsolete.
I always enjoy watching your videos.
Great review, looks like this is a nice new camera! Would love to hear more if there's an firmware update as Jordan asked for. I'm looking for a new camera these days and watch a lot of those comparing vid's on youtube. Love how and what you do and also love Dave Dugdale's vid's. Greets to Dave from here :-)
Great work all over! Thank you for all the time you invested in this channel!
Love these reviews. Keep it up!
Really interesting to see how the video files will act out when I try heavy grading on them.
Mid of 2019 now and the NX1 is still very impressive. This could have been the start of a fantastic camera system. Samsung had the technology and the funds back then to become a really big player in the mirrorless market. Too bad that they quit building 'real' cameras.
Excellent job guys! Keep up the good work!
Great review guys.. See u put a lot of time into this vid.. Good professional review,, thanks
A video review full of useful information, way to go, guys.
P.S. Video-Jordan FTW!
I know this has nothing to do with the reviewd camera, but i love the grading of this video. Great handling of shadows and highlights in very difficult lighting situations!
Thanks! The light did indeed suck!
Jordan @ TCSTV
good review guys , I am looking at this camera to purchase ... Thanks
aloha.........
very interesting... like your shooting & editing style...
very up front & no fancy/smancy effects that would deter frm content....
keep up the good work....
dear Chris and Jordan, welldone! very nice analysis. pls let me know about the problem for AF as you mentioned. also, did you check photos's qualities on paper after printing out? (the resolutions are acceptable as well as showing in Amoled screen?)
Hi Chris! Does the NX-1 not have the same 3-inch Super AMOLED touch panel used on the NX30?
But unlike the NX30's fully-articulating mechanism, the NX1's just tilts, up to 90 degrees up and 45 degrees down..
I'm really excited about Samsung's next round of incarnations, it seems like they are almost there. Any guesses what the releases will be in 2016?
they quit from what i heard
Love that UA-cam award at the editing station :P
great review as always!!!looking forward to your sony a7 ii review.
Great review. Aliasing better than GH4?
Nice. Loved that bird sequence.
Very nice review...again! Question: when you comment on the AF performance what lenses and what mode did you use? Thx!
Thank you for your great reviews.
Nice review, although looking at the noise comparison with the K-3 there seemed to be more detail in the Pentax image, in the leather grip in particular.. it this an issue with the youtube video compression?
Great review. Thanks guys.
Nice video guys! Would it be possible to look at the original files for some of your darker shots? I'd love to have a close look at the ISO performance of this beast.
Maybe its a bit weird comparison but price wise I'm considering Samsung NX-30 (with 2 lenses) vs Lumix Fz-1000 vs Sony RX-10 as my travel photo/video kit ...
What would be your advise ?
Very cool guys, thanks for getting this review out.
Definitely curious to see how this stacks up IQ wise to something like an A7 or even D810. I'm not super worried about the interface as Samsung is pretty quick with firmware updates. The lenses could be an issue though. Their lens map has good spots but it's spotty as well.
Great to see Samsung have done a mostly excellent job with this camera, hopefully they can improve the AF more with some firmware tweaks aswell. Really interested to see how the 4K market plays out with this new contender.
Fantastic video guys, and a VERY interesting camera subject to boot! It really looks like it has potential to become a great "all-in-one" camera option.
Jordan, did you intend to have so much depth of field in the first shot and the shot at 2:07, or was it a situation of lacking sufficient levels of ND?
#2) What lenses did you use on the GH4 for this, the image quality was really great. Thanks for restoring my faith in my trusty GH4! Haha
#3) Did Chris have the NX1 on the Ronin for your walk and talk segment? It was really super smooth, and I wasn't sure how much of that was due to the stabilization qualities of the camera/lens(?), or whether it could almost all be down to the skill of Chris and the awesomeness of the camera stabilizer...
5:30 absolutely, I noticed that right away testing autofocus in a 100W lighted room. sometimes the AF simply doesn't seem to function or you have to refocus, has there been any firmware update tot his by any chance? by the way I do love the NX1
The more competition - the better; advances in the next couple of years will be awesome I expect. Samsung leads in some areas trails in others as do the rest. Within ten years advances will blow us away but nowhere near perfect yet. BTW you guys communicate amazingly.
Great review as usual. What really caught my eye however were the glove/mitts that Chris was wearing-they look warm. Who made those?
Great video, I was wondering if you also tested the long exposure performance as jt was really bad for samsungs previous models.
Great review, I would like to hear how it works with Sammy's 18-200 for shooting video etc. I understand that lens has a voice coil focus drive to operate silently.
Great review. Any chance you can do an update after all the new firmware? Thanks!
Is that a common thing for birds to just fly into your hands like that in Canada? That is cool.
Can you guys please do a update on this camera? They did a couple of software updates if I'm not mistaken. Thanks for the reviews.
Awesome video guys. I saw the one on the SonyA6300 as well. Question: Jordan, what IS your go2 camera for film within the same kind of budget?
@TheCameraStoreTV Doesn't Premiere Pro CC 2015 support H.265 in the fall update?
Is the boot-up (Start up) time on this camera fast? from switching on to being able to focus and shoot?
Guys what Converter are you using on your MacBook to the video files from the NX1 to convert to native MOV format.
Just out of interest have you tried edius lne for the h265 it supports it?
Just looking at codecs it supports ,might be a better work around
I would like to know whether the nx1 works well with old nx lenses. You slapped the 85mm on there and didn't like the AF in low light. Do you think it is poor with all the glass?
Great review guys. Was I the only one who felt nervous when Chris was holding the camera over the pond with no wrist strap?
so are you saying the time to switch over to mirrorless is coming ?
i'm using a Canon 550D right now and plan to upgrade to a Nikon D5200-5300, i haven't seen any mirrorless camera that even comes close to the dynamic range and lens choice that has, for the same price anyway.
Great video guys! The NX1 seems like a really nice camera, possibly more capable for stills than the GH4.
Great review guys!
Would you say that NX1 AF system is closer to Sony NEX-6 or Sony A6000
Excellent camera. Excellent review.
thanks for posting these in 4K. I have the new iMac and the video looks brilliant on the 5K screen. The biggest benefit is that I can count the individual gray hairs on Chris's head more accurately!!!!! 219 BTW ;-P
I counted 231, but I have access to the ProRes files.
Jordan @ TCSTV
ahhh we are in 2020 and my pc can't read this video in 4k lol
Jordan @ TCSTV.... will all the updates would you now view the Nx1 as a go too camera? Or is the codec still a big enough issue for you to still use the gh4? Also with gh4 and Vlog would you even consider a NX1? just wondering
Bravo! Great video guys
Did you guys update the firmware on the 85mm f1.4?
Pre-updated 85mm f1.4 have trouble focusing in any light
I'll be posting image samples along with links to download Jpeg and raw image samples and low light tests along with raw h.265 video and low light tests for you to play with. I'll be posting this in the NX1 User group on facebook so if you want to join and share your thought/questions on the camera and your images/video come join us here facebook.com/groups/372281032931674/ Thumbs up if you want more people to join the community!
What sensor must be considered better, Samsung NX1's or Fujifilm XT-1's? Any inputs please!
hi guys, loved the video! im glad your final thoughts were mostly positive as i just purchased the camera 2nd hand yesterday. i don't have a photography background but liked the specs and various field tests, comparisons and reviews i had watched. i was aware that samsung had pulled out of the market and this was my main concern, especially if the unit needed servicing etc. lens choices doesnt concern me, the kit 16-50 i got with it is fine for my needs and i might get myself a prime a lil down the track.
my questions to you please are:
1) many of the firmware related issues you mentioned; do you know which of these have been now addressed with updates?
2) my understanding is that many softwares are starting to support h.265 now, adobe premier pro etc, im guessing this is something that will continue?
3) i know it comes down to personal taste, but i will mainly use the unit for video opposed to stills and travel and small rock gigs, what size prime would you purchase?
4) with the rock shows, again i know there is no definitive setup as it depends on many variables, but for a noob like myself, what might be a typical video setup i.e ISO etc (with low light but vibrant coloured led lightshow)
thankyou kindly :D
In the video i saw the battery was at 24% how good is the battery life? because of that screen and the conectivity i can assume it wastes lots of battery because in my canon i can use it for hours and my battery is not dying so.... how good is it?
Which camera stabilizer was being used while walking down the street testing the auto-focus?
regarding high iso performance,what would be your pick? nikon D7200 or the NX1?
YASSSSSSS. I've been waiting for this. I'm moist.
what you think is better camera the panasonic gh4 or the samsung nx1? tanks
Can somebody explain to me what is wrong with the mount that everyone hopes to be corrected? I see Novoflex has already adapter for mounting Nikon lenses on Samsung NX cameras.
Just out of curiosity, how long did it take for you to convert the H265 files? I'm really highly contemplating buying this camera but video editing is something i absolutely love doing so waiting a long time for it to convert might be a hassle.
guys very nice review ...i just wished you test the autofocus speed for sports ...but probably for the next review?
Are you guys using the Nx1 now to shoot videos or take some stills for your personal usage?
Can you say me which camera you use to Record this video ?
I am not a great fan of Samsung, but your review show they do a good job. I like the competition, so every camera gets better.
TheCameraStoreTV I'm trying to decide between the NX1 and the D750 and after watching both videos I'm still in need of reason as to go for one over the other (aside from price). I shoot mostly adventure/travel/photojournalistic stills, some video - any help, links, or opinion would be appreciated.
Always enjoy your videos reviews if just purely for general market info. Not buying this Samsung, but am interested in the gloves you both were wearing. Did Jordan's pair have wrist lanyards (idiot strings) Sorry for off topic but am looking for some cold weather shooting glove options.
why film on the GH4 but then only upload in 360p? Is this cos the vid is still processing or something?
Great video! though i was kinda hoping to see some action with the NX 85mm f1.4 wide open. Stills or video with that creamy bokeh would have been the icing on the cake :)
My nx3000 locks up when i take photos and hunting focus. Auto lever soes not level upward to 45 degrees or more not for wow photos. does nx1 do that.
LOL, loved the F-bomb. Excellent review. Sounds like it's a camera to be taken very seriously, and if it is, many of the software gripes you voth have could be taken care of - maybe even the lens mount conversions too. The AF may be a firmware update away from improved reliability, but honestly, that's where the mirrorless cameras have always lagged behind their elder dSLRs. Not having a dedicated autofocusing sensor here could mean it never achieves the effectiveness of say 7D2. I shot a low light concert last night with my 7D2 and it was absolutely impressive in performance. That's where I see the benefits to the dSLR, but it's painfully obvious it's been left behind in the image quality department. I guess we can say Samsung is a real heavy contender in this market now and that's great. Great job.
Were the ISO test images processed RAW or JPEG? They seemed JPEG to me and I never consider them as a credible format for image comparison. Still, incredible sharpness!!
I've been hearing that it can only shot 60p at 1080, but Jordan said it can do 120p. Does anyone know which one is correct?
Is this camera still available in the market here in Canada?
Finally a review of the NX1, I always had a soft spot for the NX line of camera's. I never was completely satisfied with Sony's styling and wanted them to make a camera like this. Don't get me wrong Sony is wonderful but I think Samsung is getting some stuff right, like available lenses, SLR design, touch screen, and the menu system.
However, Sony of course has a full frame sensor but I was never fully on board with the design or feel in my large hands. Plus the lenses are bigger and not all that available. I currently have a GH3 which is great but I am a little jealous of having a larger sensor sometimes. Maybe I will get a NEX6 to fulfill my APSC fantasy.
Great review! Just one question about the Samsung NX1. Will a future firmware update enable smooth, cinematic focus changes while shooting video?
I recently purchased a Samsung NX1 and the 16-50mm f/2-2.8 lens to test. I believe the NX1 is a better camera than anything available from Canon. I am testing it with an eye to buying 3 bodies and several lenses. There is currently only one small problem preventing me from moving forward. I shoot TV commercials and stills for ad agencies. While shooting video with the NX1 camera in auto focus mode I touch the screen on the face of the person speaking. When that person is done and another person starts to speak I touch their face. Everything works great except that the focus changes so quickly that it is jarring to watch. Unusable unfortunately.
My suggestion is to have Samsung's digital imaging software engineers test the Canon 70d along side the NX1. I know the Samsung NX1 has the processing power to do anything the Canon 70D can do. The 70D easily creates usable video by slowly (relative to the NX1) and smoothly changing the focus position without any hunting as it achieves final focus. The effect is similar in experience to watching a feature film.
As far as the image quality, resolution, size, weight, wireless connectivity, feature set and handling of the NX1, it seems just about perfect to me. My numerous tests show the Samsung NX1 using h.265 codec captures noticeably better quality video than the 70D All-I codec with less than 1/9 the file size! I can convert the Samsung h.265 1080p to ProRes 422 almost as quickly as the conversion from Canon's All-I to ProRes 422. The still photos are sharper and in my opinion superior to the Canon 1D, 5D Mk II, and 70D cameras. At least up to iso 800 which is all I've tested so far. When I say sharper I mean NX1 photos seem twice as sharp as the 70D. In pursuit of sharpness I have very carefully calibrated back focus for four L series lenses on my 70D.
After using follow-focus rigs for years I will never go back to that. Touch screen combined with auto following facial recognition for video focus allows a very high percentage of good takes. Lens change - no problem!
I love the Samsung NX1camera. I really, really want it to work for my use. It breaks my heart to think of returning it to B&H Photo. Unfortunately I can't use it for delivering pro video with the way I want to do focus. Please tell me that some future firmware update will enable smooth, cinematic focus changes while shooting video!
btw- Continuous autofocus is pretty darn good. I only falls apart if there is significant distance between the focus points selected by touch during video shooting.
How was the dynamic range? Anything close to that of the Sony sensor?
Whats the name and brand of the gloves actually lol? :D
Gotta say, love my NX11,.. I MIGHT get this NX1 if I can get the money together. I've got some manual focus legacy glass that will LOVE being paired with this NX1. Thanks for the review - very insightful. :)
I would love to hear a response! I really want to get into 4K video. I have the 70D and love the autofocus but now I find the image to be soft now. I'm torn between the GH5 and the NX1 what would you recommend for video? I can spend 2,000$ and get the Nx1 with all the bells and whistles 16-50 S and 50-150 S Battery grip and 4 batteries for 2,000$. Or GH5 body only.
I have the NX1 and i love the video quality!
Congrats for this review! I learned about this camer asince September, it was launched last wek and I expected a lot of people to focus on it. But you are among the first and this is a greta thing you did!
So I wanted this camera but still is not available here in ROmania.
My question is ( as you already have some experience with the GH4) how would you compare it with the GH4 ? ISO seeme to be better but you said for filming is not good from 3200. So gh4 is good at 3200?
2. COntinous focusing in film mode: is it better thna GH4? My feeling is that GH4 have issues in focusing in film mode.
Also fo stills I found Gh4 not a quality camera as the sharpnes and details are not so good. Looks like NX1 is better here.
Just give us some comments on these please. Thanks!
Can you guys do a review of the Leica x type 113? Thanks!!!
Did samsung fix all the video recording firmware issues?
Thank for the review guys! I have been a Sony Guy for some years now and have been looking closely at their newest Mirror-less offerings. I find the lack of GPS notable in an otherwise feature rich offering. That said I've started looking around and the NX1 has caught my eye. They mention that GPS geotagging can be added via a blue tooth enabled Smart device. My question is does this work in remote locations (Africa/South America etc) and how much of a drain is on the device and camera batteries as charging in remote locations can also be challenging?
NX1 became an “unsung hero"