South Korea's Dangerous Army of 11 Million Online Misogynists
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- In today's video, we delve into the biggest (ranks first in membership number with 11 million members. S. Korea only has a population of 51 million), and simultaneously the most misogynistic online community website of South Korea- DC Inside.
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Timestamps:
0:00-0:56 Intro
0:58-2:43 Dangers of a Society Filled with "Mini-Andrew Tates"
2:44-4:06 How Andrew Tate’s “Sandwich Theory”, and other misogynistic theories of Tate existed in S.Korea far before his rise to global fame
4:06-6:32 Introducing South Korea’s biggest, and most misogynistic online community
6:33-8:35 Are all of the male members of the website extreme misogynists in the lines of Andrew Tate?
8:37-13:45 Are the things that they say, and the ideas that they espouse, really that bad?
13:46- 14:27 How exactly is all of this misogyny, a bad thing?
14:28- 16:42 The “Dishwasher Men” Theory ("Pong Pong Nam" Theory in Korean)
16:43-18:29 Spreading anger, jealousy and fear into society
18:29-22:24 Crime Statistics of DC Inside
22:25-23:22 Other potential negative social repercussions of prevalent misogyny, and gender conflict in S.Korea
23:22-24:56 Conclusion, and Potential Solutions
“If war breaks out, I will tort*** Korean women”
“Women needs to be beat** periodically due to their low intelligence”
“Korean women must be ki**ed unconditionally”
“Ra**ing non-virgins should not be considered as ra**.”
These are the type of posts that are uploaded on a second-to-second basis, at this very moment, in South Korea’s BIGGEST online community website of 11 million active members.
Again, not on some dark-web corner of the South Korean internet, or a minor community website for social losers, but officially the BIGGEST online community website of South Korea, by members who don't give second thoughts before writing such misogynistic, downright criminal posts due to such misogynistic sentiments being a prevalent part of daily life in South Korea.
So if you watch this video fully, then you will get to understand the roots and core of the social issues of South Korea that were occasionally covered in the Western media as well, such as the date ra** culture, rampant hidden camera installations, as well as the burning sun scandal.
And as a South Korean who was raised by a single mother, and had to literally watch first-hand of my mother having to make a living for our family amidst such beings who did everything that they humanly could to make life difficult for her purely based on her gender, this topic of misogyny in South Korea is very tangible to me. So I’ll be answering to every question written in this video’s comment section, in my attempts to have more people understand this very serious, but also very shushed side of South Korea, and do my part, however small, in helping South Korea move to a better direction.
Watching this video and seeing some of the comments here makes my stomach turn. It's horrible that there's still this much hate and vitriole in the world. I don't understand how people this hateful can't self reflect and see how that mindset and ideology is tearing them apart from the inside out. Awful
Seems like how most of the internet was before 2017
It's scary, I know misogyny is really bad in Korea but I didn't know is THAT bad. It's really scary to be a woman. Because of that hate, now women band together to protect each other.
this guys is a btch exagerating this. he must be from the west brainwashed by his feminist mother.
11 million users? thats approaching half the male population in South Korea. If you take away the older male population that may not use internet, you're staring down a critical societial problemm.
Exactly. It is about time that this issue stops being shushed and condoned by the highly male-centric South Korean society.
As much as I hate these Andrew Tate fanboys, I believe modern feminism is equally at fault as well, since feminists don't really condemn Misandric statements (and sometimes even promote them), which causes feminism to be less inclusive to men, which in turn pushes men to movements like red pill etc.
I would say that DC Inside is somewhat like Reddit - there are multiple "galleries'", and each "gallery" has different members and different political/social/etc. views. Not sure if the entire 11 million members can be viewed as having one homogenous characteristics.
Why are you surprised? Society treated young males for long as disposable/expendable all around the world. With internet they found each other. Now in best case they gonna walk away and let Rome to be sacked. In worst case they gonna join Odoaker.
I'm afraid there is nothing we can do. Men need to stop playing a victim and stop blaming all their failures onto women. But it's easier to have a scapegoat than to look at yourself and change. They also need to mature emotionally as they get swayed by emotions easily. And they need good father figure.
The "dish washer men" type of logic that is prevalent among the men in South Korea that we've mentioned in the video does exactly that, I believe. That whole fear of them being "taken advantage" by women ultimately does them nothing good, except keeping them in a vicious loop of fear, jealousy and ha**.
women now a days blame alot on men and you aspect some good men to bow down to that and change themselves? No , unless both genders (admit ) their wrongs ,non of it will change
Yeah man idk. The manosphere is cringe af. Bunch of dorks who can’t get laid
And your statement should always have “vice versa” included. Men don’t blame everything on women, only misogynistic people do those things. Women should also stop blaming men for everything and they should also stop playing a victim too, don’t you agree? Men are always a victim from false accusations.
Both sides need to mature.
TLDR: guys talk about girls, girls talk about guys. I saved you all 25 minutes
No way that 11 million figure is correct.
A lot of bots and duplicate accounts probably it has been around since 1999 .and for some reason Korean media often gets way more view than it should be possible remember Gangnam style.
It's probably more, to be honest, as the 11 million member figure purely stems from the number of people who actually took the extents to make membership accounts for the community site. However, more people probably view and write posts anonymously on the DC Inside without logging in, or signing up for a membership.
Less than 10% of a population willing to conduct radical changes is enough. In Usa revolution against Britain roughly 3% of male population of the 13 colonies fought.
comparing human beings (women) to a sandwich reminds me of another group of people who were collectively compared to rats by a certain party in the early to mid 20th century, and another group of people who was compared by officials of neighboring country (populated by people themselves quite recently compared to rats by a certain party) to animals.
in other words, dehumanizing never looks good and doesn't lead to good things if it is not stopped.
I would like to remind you that feminism as an ideology exists. Yet you never see a mainstream complaints about it, instead all media try to uphold it as a status-quo.
Just to make it clear. A hundred men can't use a sandwich. The first man will "use" it therefore do what one does with a sandwich which is EAT IT. Therefore there cannot be another 99 men that "use" the sandwich.
Secondly no one "uses" a sandwich that falls on the floor. And certainly not 100 people. MOST people (unless desperate) will not eat a sandwich that has fallen on the floor. But even if they DID. You go back to the first part of this comment. LOL
How does anyone listen to Tate and not hear the stupidity of his arguments at face value.
Don't want to defend Andrew Tate but holy, it's not that deep, it's just an example.
@@nereus2929 It's an "example" that makes NO SENSE. That's why it's "not deep" because it's nonsense.
Why would anyone "defend" something that makes no sense then try to validate it by saying it's an "example". Which in itself makes NO SENSE.
Thanks for these videos. Your channel helps me believe there are people in the world that actually care.
5:11 makes me think of Monty Python «is there any women here» xD
This video may have been shadow banned by UA-cam.
It never showed on my feed. It's only after I saw your last video about the woman kicker and that I clicked on your channel that I found this video.
Thanks for letting me know.
I guess as the video does mention Andrew Tate quite a bit and given how he is cancelled on most online platforms, I understand where that would be coming from.
Have a great weekend.
This is almost identical as well to what you see in many areas on the internet in English and has been for a number of years. Redpill and manosphere areas, MGTOW, and incel areas. On certain Incel areas it is at least as bad or worse than anything I've seen in this video.
Personally I believe at least in the west that the relationship between men and women in society is going nowhere but down over the next generation. The number of men who are sympathetic to such views I think will inevitably increase because a larger and larger portion of men are not going to be able to succesfully get into relationships and find a successful place in the society around them, and this is pretty much the only place which will speak to them and their problems. God knows society sure as hell won't acknowledge any problems that lonely unsuccessful men have or do anything about them, and it is unrealistic to assume the average man will be able to work there way out of this problem, though a portion might be able to.
Huh, don't they have all those, sparkly sparkly shiny idol stuff, seems like whenever there is behavior shown by a culture that exudes extreme amounts of vain industrialized unoriginal packages of positivity(aka kpop) , there would also be a side to the culture that is pretty polar to all of it, on one side you have female idols being treated as gods on earth and then you have this... Not to poke on any particular culture by any means, all this dc inside stuff at the end of the day is just a very tiny part of a culture that has developed over hundreds of years, so we are just witnessing a shade of it, that we don't witness in the conventional media...Cool
their idols aren't really good, there was an incident where Heechul got drunk on his livestream and started spouting incel shit
Sorry for commenting so much but does this site require real id to log in? for some reason this is common in Korea it would be crazy if people used their real name for this.
You can indeed make an account with your real name. However, that is not necessary, and anyone can view the contents of the community website anonymously, as well as write posts anonymously without logging in,
Dish Washer law would be a better name, what is happening in South Korea will i repeat will happen in the rest of the world. Things need to change before thing get any worse.
All of them as Andrew Tate is just HILARIOUS 😂😂😂😂😂
This is sad. Don't you guys love your women?
I like this channel, especially as it serves a niche. However, I disagree with a few points.
1. More speech is better than censorship. Adults have agency; we choose what to do and must suffer through the consequences of it. On the flip side, dcinside is a convenient place to monitor what Korean men are thinking of.
2. Promiscuity is morally repugnant and it applies to both sides. A "clean" male dish does not need to settle with a "dirty" female dish and vice versa. We choose who we settle with. That is way better than arranged marriage in the past.
3. If there is misogyny, then there is also misandry. For example, the Korean military conscription is exclusive to men. But if we believe in gender equality, then women should also be conscripted. If the majority of Korean women believe in gender equality (with a significant chunk of the men vote as well), they can vote-in the expansion of conscription to women.
This is where true equality starts, not with privileges or rights but first with duties & responsibilities.
Hi Gray, always appreciate your input on our channel. Let me give you some of my opinion on your points:
1. I am completely for freedom of speech, and am with you on the fact that excessive censorship is worse than more speech.
However, I believe you've missed the point of the video-
The problem with DC Inside is how they are getting away with so much criminal, downright heinous statements against other people, group or gender, in the name of free speech.
Let's say hypothetically that someone comes to you and say that "I'm going to ki** all the women in your family", but then actually does not carry it out, meaning he just spoke out the words, but did not actually commit it into action.
Would you be completely fine with this? Like, have you seen the things that they actually say against women through the clips on the video?
There's an extent to where free speech can be taken, but not to the extent of where people can freely talk about ki**ing, ra**ing other people, taking photos of your family members while they sleep, etc, etc.
2. Understand what you mean by this point, thus why I said in the video that there is indeed some degree of truth to the "dish washer men", or the "pongpongnam" theory in S. Korea.
However, the problem with the proponents of the "dish washer men" theory of DC Inside is that they literally regard ALL women of S.Korea over like, around the age of 18 to 19 as "dirty dishes", as you can see from the video.
In a society where such unacceptable generalization against ALL women (basically stating that they are who**s), can a "clean" male dish (really don't enjoy describing people as "dishes", but will do it for the sake of this argument) even come to believe it when a "clean" female dish, of let's say around the age of 28, claims that she never had a previous relationship in her entire life? I don't think so.
3. I understand your sentiments behind this point as well. Military conscription being only exclusive to men is indeed a controversial problem in S.Korea, and I do believe better measures can be taken in order to make the conscription system fairer in S.Korea across all genders.
But then again, just because men has to enter the army while women don't, don't think it justifies the plethora of posts in DC Inside uploaded on a second-to-second basis, saying that they want to "be** up the next women" that they see on the street, to saying how they want to "ki** them all".
What we ask for from DC Inside are not "privilege" for women, Gray. Again, when a group of people constantly says that they want to ki** or ra** your family, and you tell them to stop, what are you fighting for? Are you fighting to gain a little "privilege" for yourself and your family, or am attempting to protect the basic human rights that you deserve to have?
@@Asianalysis I appreciate the robust response. To put money where my mouth is, I bought your book the other day.
@@graystoke8229 Really appreciate your support, Gray. You know where to reach us if you are to have any further questions about the contents of our book, as our priority e-mail address should have been sent to you along with the purchase. Have a good one.
Just food for thought, I prescribe to the ancient belief that pregnancy and giving birth are akin to fighting wars. Both genders have things they have more of a capacity for. I don’t think we should stop people from exploring limits due to physiology, just acknowledge strengths and weaknesses. But I also think when you start looking at the human race in gendered binary you lose sight of humanities potential. Everyone’s different and we should be taking advantage of people’s individual strengths to make life better for us all.
0:33 OH SHIT, this is bad
Dc inside stands for Dark Corea inside.
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So the simps and misogynist cancel each other out. What cancels out the female narcissist feminist
The Cringe Incel Battalion 🤣
I mean, I get it, internet people aren't exactly the most pleasant of orators nor the most coherent rhetoricians, especially when they are plotted in forums whose entire culture revolves around more and more extreme forms of one-upmanship. But, and I say this in the spirit of sincere admiration I have for your work, I feel that you're being atypically uncharitable here. It isn't unfair to question the current place of both men and women in modern society, nor is it wrong to consider the value or even promote traditional gender roles. And it isn't fair to brush everything aside just because certain online sewers are toxic.