Slow motion is fine, but if you're beating a physical dead horse with another physical dead horse to beat the dead horse idiom, then it's way too fucking much.
"TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!" (Takes out cellphone) "Yeah? I'd like to order for tonight. Table for three hundred. Yes? Allergies? Hang on a second." (Puts phone on hold) "Does any of you have allergies?" "Yeah, I'm allergic to dairy products." "THROW HIM OFF THE CLIFF!" (Back on the phone) "As I was saying, table for two hundred ninety nine..."
Well, that whole "dead body fetish" actually had a point. Spartans actually used to use dead enemies to build walls or monuments, not because a dead body is as good as cement, but because if a enemy see that, 80% of the times he will be too creeped out to fight properly.
You would be suprised man.The guy who makes these vids mostly tells his opinion rather than what is actually "wrong" or inaccurate in movies. I'm subbed to this guy only to truly lmfao to his stupidity and what he considers "wrong" xD
dkmorbid otaku wouldent call it wrong but he seems to point out things that most pople tend to miss or even consider if it was their first time watching the movie
By the way, that "random dagger" on the battlefield Leonidas stabs the eye out of the Immortal beast with is actually the spear tip broken off from a little earlier in the scene when his spear is snapped.
Everything Wrong With Everything Wrong With 300 In 10 Minutes Or Less in 4 Paragraphs Or Less In regards to the whole "who's guarding the Hot Gates right now?" bit, Thermopylae (the pass at which this battle took place) consists of a narrow cliff edge (you could maybe fit 100 men abreast) with a mountainside to one side and the ocean to the other, the "Hot Gates" is the smaller canyon where the Spartans were first fighting against the Persian lemming charge. The scene where the Spartans fight the Immortals at night with the big body wall further ahead of the Hot Gates, I.E. they ARE guarding the Hot Gates, given that they are between the Persians and it. Also the body wall in this scene is not the same stone & body wall from before (whip guy scene). Not trying to defend the movie, but come on, all you had to do was pay a little bit of attention to the surrounding area and how the battle progressed to get a concept of what was going on. Also, nit-pick here, Leonidas stabbed the guy in the eye with a spear tip, not a dagger. As far as the Persians not attacking at night... you really don't ever do that. Do you have any idea how confusing a battle is? Especially a battle that's hand to hand? Now add on top of that having to do it at night. For fuck's sake, it took hours just to get men into formation back then, and that's using the Roman army as an example, who, unlike the Persians, were professional soldiers, trained and drilled so they could do those things as quickly and orderly as possible. Night was for sleeping, licking your wounds, planning and gathering the dead. The bit about the Rhino. Okay, lets take a step back and step into someone else's shoes for a moment. Imagine you are a Greek soldier, you've probably never left your city, or at best, about 100 miles around Greece in your entire life. All you've ever seen, as far as animals, have been horses, sheep, cows, maybe some wolves. Now, imagine a giant, hulking grey beast with HUGE FUCKING HORNS barreling towards you. Rhinos and Elephants are the closest things to fighting actual real-life monsters you can get. Do you know what they use to kills Elephants and Rhinos? Guns... BIG fucking guns. Guns strong enough to penetrate 3 inches of steel plate. You only get one shot, and if you miss, or you only injure them, you're dead. Now, try to kill a Rhino or an Elephant with a spear... good luck with that. "Were you supposed to take drugs before watching this movie?" I did... didn't you?
Well Hanibal let one of his prisioners fight, to get his freedom vack (with i think a sword and spear or just an sword dont remember anymore) against an Elephant 1v1 and he won. So yeah u have to be pretty badass to take an War Elephant at a 1 v 1
Not to mention beating kids and and the "diaper" thing in the beginning was indeed a part of the hellish Spartan training; but the diaper thing was needed as in real life they mainly trained nude (but we can't really have nude kids on the big screen now can we?). I agree with just about everything you said, some of these vids are done without previous historical knowledge (if a historical move) or prior knowledge of plots moves were based off of (comics or books). One small nitpick: Double flute guy? Really? I'm really starting to get the sense the guy who makes these vids never took the liberty to read about ancient Greek civilization or Spartan culture.
Cause in sin #63, this is exactly what the Persian army did. And it wasn't just the Spartans. A force of over 7000 Greek-mixed-with-Spartans marched to block the pass at Thermopylae (led by Leonidas). After two days, the local Ephialtes of Trachis (not a hunchback/deformed dude, but just a loner goat farmer) betrayed the Greeks, showing a flanking path available to pass the forces. After the second day of fighting, Leonidas was aware of being flanked by this betrayal, and ordered a bulk of the forces to retreat. What remained was approximately 300 Spartans, 700 Thespians (from Thespiae, not actors), and 400 Thebans (give or take a few hundred total... old records aren't exact, after all). So they had around 1500 soldiers to defend against 150,000 Persians or so. Most died and they lost the pass, but it was a morale victory for the Greeks, a big motivator to fight for their country and those who sacrificed themselves to hold the pass for the others. The decisive battle happened at Salamis, where Xerxes was forced to withdraw his armies, fearing being trapped in the European area. Oh, and Xerxes I... never showed up at the front lines, never thought himself or asked others to consider him a god (he was just grandson of the founder of the empire, and first son born while Darius I was king). He was invading Greece primarily as retaliation to the defeat of his father at the Battle of Marathon, but secondarily because they strongly believed in a "one king for one people" kind of system. Xerxes was later assassinated by Artabanus Anyway Mardonius was left behind to try and finish the Persian invasion, where they were beaten again at the Battle of Plataea, which essentially ended the Persian invasion. Remember, this version of 300 is about as accurate and realistic as Sin City - it's based on a graphic novel after all. There will always be speculation and exaggeration about what actually happened, since it was so long ago without any methodical or exact ways of recording events like this.
Way to tell it. To the nay sayers, it is after all just a movie, they never said it was exactly what happened. Good job pointing out most of the facts about the battles.
There's also a rather interesting note about the Battle of Thermopylae, and that is the Greeks didn't leave the pass completely unguarded like is commonly thought. They did have a force of Phoetians guarding the pass. However, when they saw Persian forces advancing, they thought they were coming to engage them and redeployed to a nearby hill. The Persians merely shot a volley of arrows at them, then continued advancing past them.
In reference to the sin about how every spartan had to go through the agoge It's something of note because The Kings of Sparta didn't go through the Agoge Leonidas was the distant relative of one of the kings who died shortly before the 2nd Greco-persian war. As he had already gone through the Agoge again something that the kings didn't do, this made him one of the few Warrior Kings of Sparta.
Angel Fox I highly doubt that complaining to a non-existent principal will get a university lecturer and department director fired 😂 and if the only mistake they've made in almost two decades of lecturing is messing up the Greek terms for single vs double flute I'm pretty impressed
One of the many curious things about this movie is the way the director chose to depict Persians as looking and dressing like highly romanticized African Moors. Based on vase art from the 6th and 5th centuries BCE, the the physiognomy of Persians and Greeks is essentially the same.
***** What am I talking about? I'm saying that the Persians were made to look like fanciful representations of African Moors, and did not resemble, either in clothing or physiognomy, the Indo-Iranian branch of the greater Indo-European peoples that occupied modern Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran during the 6th and 5th centuries. Hoped that cleared it up for you.
***** Its funny because literally nothing you said was historically accurate. If you knew your history you'd realise that Iranians and Greeks share a very long history together, hell a good portion of Persian empires were Hellenistic in nature (I.e The Seleucid Empire). Besides, human genealogy shows that Indo-Iranians (Aryans) are very similar to Europeans.
Hi, ancient civilizations historian here - this is one of the most historically accurate movie I've ever seen. It's pulled directly from Book 7 of Herodotus' Histories.
Guess you dont enjoy many movies then. The movie is not serious by any meaning, it is extremely inaccurate and overedited on purpose, to make it look more like an actual comic (Since the movie is based off a comic). If you want to watch a movie about (more or less) real antique battles, then this is like the worst movie to watch. Someone else here in the comments mentioned Kill Bill, a grotesque, and for me thats a pretty fitting comparison. The action is (if you want realistic fights) complete BS, but if you ignore this fact its awesome. Just like 300!, i love the movie, even thought i also love movies that try to be as accurate as possible in such antique battles, like Ben Hur. Just completly different genres, that just share the theme.
Its kind of accurate the monsters where the only inaccurate stuff yes babys were killed if they cried at birth and they were beaten up so they resist pain
I think the "How does the narrator have any idea what happened after Leonidas sent him home?" bit is actually the whole point of the movie. He doesn't. He's makin' shit up to inspire the army he's leading into the next battle.
These "Everything Wrong With /.../" series are great. But they do just want me to re-watch these films again. Because most of the films are enjoyable, regardless what seems to be wrong with them.. :)
Sin 8: It was special in that most Spartan kings did not go through the Agoge. Since Leonidas was not the firstborn in the ruling house, he had to go through the hardcore Spartan education, but ended up becoming a King anyway, which was very unusual.
sam raynes But if you melted it down... why would it be worhtless? I mean it still might alert someone if you were spending unmarked gold or something, but it wouldn't be _worthless_
Xeokym In Sparta it's officially of no value, they use worthless iron rods as currency as these are hard to accumulate and almost impossible to take from someone. So gold would have to be spent carefully or not al all. The Spartans also had little interest in luxuries so such items were rare and looked down on. Best just to leave the city if you had any interest in being wealthy or living a lavish life.
This channel is satirical comedy and they even make fun of themselves and yet people still post comments all over it complaining that they're nitpicking and they're shitty at criticism.
Who cares? They already showed how much they care about people who can't understand sarcasm *(everything wrong with cinemasins video)*. If people want to waste their times being idiots let them.
-The army we will be fighting can block the sun with arrows -Oh that's good I can tell my army that we will be fighting in the shade That is a real sentence that the spartans said in the war
Just a hunch, and this is probably too complicated and might still be a sin, but maybe the councilman was paid in Persian currency because he expected Sparta to be overtaken by Persia, and after that then any Spartan currency would be worthless
+Austin Dwyer indeed it is stupid that he's carrying them around, but the whole "Persian currency vs. Spartan currency" is quite redundant, since gold is a material easily recycled with minimal loss. So with a basic furnace you could just melt the coins down and sell them for face value, which at that time was more or less the same as the coin's monetary worth. Unlike today when money has some made-up fake worth.
How did he get his spear back?? That's impossible. How do we even know it's his spear at all? Cause there's no way he could pick up a different spear. I mean he is the only one that had a spear right??
other things the movie got wrong about Sparta, Sparta actually had 2 ruling families and 2 kings not 1, While the Kings of Sparta had virtually no power in writing law or policy (serving mostly as the spiritual and moral leaders) they did have absolute authority over the military and to declare war, the Spartans had no problems with slavery they had lots and lots of slaves the "Helots" (accounts range from 3-10 Helots to Spartans, their slave population outnumbered the citizens by 3x-10x) the government of Sparta was remarkably uncorrupted since the Ephors who wrote the law only served for 1 year and could not be re-elected and before a law was passed every citizen was allowed to vote on it, and the Gerousia only had the power to veto laws and act as a Jury in court. The women of sparta owned pretty much everything, because of spartan property law when you died your spouse got all your money and property and since all the men were conscripted to the army for 10-15 years, the male mortality rate was high and it wasn't uncommon for a woman to have 4-5 husbands before she died so the women ended up with most of the wealth
War Doesn´t matter ... the movies are (almost) always talked in the language of the country it is made. So it is stupid to point out that the language or the accent is "wrong"
I think Screen Junkies said it best: This movie is a faithful adaptation of a nostalgia-driven graphic novelization of an old movie based on ancient Greek propaganda of a real battle.
The thing is that battles in the ancient world didn't happen the way they show in the movie. The most popular formation at the time, which would be familiar to BOTH the Greeks AND the Persians, was the phalanx, which wasn't based off personal heroics. Thermopylae was chosen as the battle ground because the Persians couldn't use the one of the most important parts of their army, cavalry, to flank the ends of the Greek phalanx, which also featured around 3000-7000 Greeks from other city-states, possibly Thebes before they betrayed the rest of Greece and sided with the Persians. Considering the Greeks had the upper hand with their battlefield, and were well defended on the front lines by well-armed hoplites, it made sense they managed to hold the pass for 3 days. Also, the Greeks would've had with them light foot soldiers, probably on wearing a tunic and cloth hat, with a shield and light spear, as well as slingers, which would've served as distance troops.
SirAnthonyChirpsALot So true, so true, Also I'd like to point out, while not really important, the so called "Immortals" are widely considered to have actually be called "Companions" - the Persian word for Immortal and Companion are really close, and likely a mistake made in Koiné translations. I can't remember the exact words for each, but I'm sure it's easy to find. But it makes sense, since Companions was the predominant form of elite warriors.
Yes, I've heard that too. Since our only record of Immortals comes from Herodotus, a man know for exaggeration, even for his time, it is believed that he made a mistake in the Persian translation, or his translator said companion, but the Greek word for companion sounds similar to immortal, I can't remember which.
You missed the point in some of these, the reason for the Goat guy for example and the exxagerated death/blood/bodies is because this whole movie is a story told at a campfire, legends are all exxagerated, of course there are no goatmen and monster people and oracles and whatnot in real life but this is an ancient legend told by men which gets more extreme after every time it's told, the movie is meant to depict that. As well as how great Leonidas was so ofc it focuses on Leonidas and not the others, also the lone survivor actually is not there at the death of Leonidas so all that part is pure invention by his part, dunno his name anymore the one with the eyepatch...
Malchuk1 Spartan hoplites didn't wear all that much armor anyways, they used theirs shields + why else would you make 40+ actors get ripped with muscles if you ain't gonna show it...
+Overused Meme You have misunderstood. He's saying that everything we see in the film is actually being narrated by a character the entire time, and that this character is adding crazy embellishment, because this is all just a story the character is retelling.
maybe just maybe.. his army brought supplies to the battle? I know today soldiers go to war without eating for days, but back then food was still needed? :S Also Apples dont rot as fast as other fruit, its easy to carry in bulk and its nurturing... but yeah next time we need a scene that explains how ppl eat, our imagination cant make that gap on our own....
@@ryugahareame2994 Lol no maybe 5 had to follow strict rules. Butler had to follow strict rules. The rest were just on a casting call for 'buff ass extras'
OK, first, there are people defending the movie because it's supposed to be cool regardless of historical accuracy. Now, we have someone defending some of it from being uncool on the grounds that it *is* historically accurate?
***** I didn't say the entire movie was "uncool," I said one obscure moment was kind of ridiculous, regardless of historical accuracy. I guess you think absolutely nothing that's ever actually happened is ridiculous just because it's "historically accurate?"
hedrack08 I didn't say you said the entire movie was "uncool"; I didn't even mention you. Anyway, no, I never implied that historical accuracy keeps a weird moment from being a sin. I was pointing out how weird the idea of the two forms of defense coexisting is since only one can hold true.
+Deltasquad382943 And of all things,this is not a sin. This channel started as a good idea but you can just see how hard they are trying to cherry-pick stuff. They complain when something is normal for not being different and if it is different they complain for being out of place or uncreative or whatever. Honestly. Even the nostalgia critic is more honest than this
8:10. For Spartans, their shield was a weapon. A head strike with it is equivalent to the force of a 30mph car crash, focused on your skull. So he threw his sword, but his shield is perfectly capable of offense and defense.
I'm surprised they didn't mention that they had a beautiful testudo formation at the end there which could have been easily defended but somehow after leonidas tells his guy to kill the other guy and tickles xerxes with his spear, everyone decides to screw the formation and expose themselves to the arrows.
Well look at it another way the sacrifice of those Spartans was not unlike the Kamikaze's,they knew they would die as well(sacrificial lambs so to speak).Politically was smart as they where made into martyr's,not much unlike today(suicide bombers).
philosophicalreason still it is better to take out all of those persians, or as much as possible and come back a war hero potentially then to want to die.
Aexeiz Deuam They did delayed the Persian army for three days, and historically speaking they took a total of 10 thousand Persian troops. It's easy to judge from your seat and say "oh well they could have made an effort to last 5 more minutes". They were facing men that wanted to kill them face to face, not to mention the physical demand of holding a shield plus injuries, plus their numbers were already down, by the third day, they weren't 300 anymore. They've done what no other warrior even today have done, they've killed thousands of soldiers none stop with their own hands, no guns, no grenades, with the odds against them. They surely were tired, they knew they weren't going anywhere, they made peace with that, they killed more than the quantity of men combined with Spartans and hoplites and other Athenian troops. It's easy to say "only three days?" When all they did the whole three days was fight hand to hand watching their brothers fell, suffering and enduring injuries that most soldiers today wouldn't be able to withstand. This guys were fighting to the bitter end. Their formation could have lasted just a few more minutes, but no more than that, what was the point? They already took three days plus 10 thousand Persian troops. If you put one Spartan warrior today with a Navy seal or Green beret or Ranger or whatever, in a combat hand to hand, I'm quite sure the Spartan would win with out much effort.
+1 sin to Cinemasins for not knowing how a phalanx works. The guys at the back of the phalanx are resting while they wait their turn to be at the front. A phalanx is designed such that the guys at the front are changed out regularly with the men behind them, either when they fall or grow tired from fighting, so that the unit itself can fight very efficiently for long periods of time. As such, the hunchback still would have been useless because he would present a clear weakness in the line when it was his turn at the front and expose himself and the guy next to him on his shield side.
This movie was meant to be exaggerated. The consumers, including me, wanted a bad ass movie, and this one delivers! I don't think anyone considers this an accurate historical depiction.
The problem is that some people actually do think that this movie has some historical value depicted within it. However, I definitely agree that this movie was exaggerated in order to give the audience an action thriller.
yeah - who would think a movie based on the battle of Thermopylae depicting the East/West conflict would have any historical value in today's political climate….silly….what matters is it was really cool if you like watching naked men wearing mom's drapes spit and kill at will.
Basically, the whole movie is recounted by the guy with one eye, and he embellishes the story to make it seem more fantasy-like. That's why all the unrealistic stuff happens.
I still think it's a great movie. I'm a big fan of slowmo, I use it in almost every video. That much slomow is truely remarkable but that doesn't have to be a bad thing. But I gotta admit, when I watched the movie I was like "why would he carry that money with him for no reason other to be revealed as a traitor?"
“Yeah, you showed those arrows whose boss, by the way, how did you get your spear back?” I was literally thinking the same thing when I watched the movie
2:09 - Also, I doubt the women of Sparta had such well-manicured eyebrows or had access to expert makeup artists to apply their mascara, eye shadow and eye liner :) We know from the days of Cleopatra that crude makeup was available to royalty but I doubt it looked this good...after all, this takes place roughly 450 years before Cleopatra.
Actually they did shave. Xerxes had a spy watching them & they reported back that they were womanly, shaving & adorning themselves in scented oils. Little did Xerxes & his spy know thats how they prepared themselves for death. Had they known that, they would have known they were all willing to fight to the death. So yeah, the spartans did shave & cover themselves in oil before battle.
Desmond Nguyen It's cool though, because like I said, it just makes shit look more badass to me, which made most of this movie more badass, when it probably wouldn't have been if not for the slow-motion. But everyone's different, you know?
+nils gjersø there were actually anywhere from 5-6,000 Spartans, Leonidas sent them back except 300 to either preserve the military force or ensure his death because of the supposed telling of the oracle. Historians don't know the exact reason
BackYardProps WA I wrote wrong, I meant 299,we are always referring to the Spartans picked out by Leonidas himself, there was 2 of them taken out of battle because of blindness, one of them was led into the battle blind by his assistance and 1 taken back to Sparta, this one last spartan run later into the Persian army all alone to be killed so his daughters could marry And, those other ones where sent back, Leonidas and his soldiers where alone This is a battle of historical importance, there may have not been a vestian civilization without Leonidas and his few men
The dual flute playing is accualy one of the few things they got right in the movie. Fual flute playing was traditional for greek music of the time, and it is very likely that they used marching musicians just like later civilisations did.
The reason the movie is focused on Leonidas was because was the bad ass king who led 300 warriors against an army of 1000's and died so the Greek states could have chance to get their stuff together and in doing so his name has never been forgotten.
Eric Moore yeah, Leonidas and his 300 (wouldn't that make 301 in total?)!!! Never mind the 7000 Greeks that assisted them... They don't matter, do they?
J Parril If the guys in back are needed up front, they can move up. The hunchback could never get on the front line, although he would have freed up one more soldier to go to the front, so....
Vlaka He was useless...in the Phalanx. Have him hang back. Once the Phalanx broke formation and started with the slow motion killing, have him run out and get killed so that he could have the honor of dying in battle. Then you don't have to worry about him fucking up the Phalanx.
True, but clearly the Persians expected to win easily. The traitor (I forgot his name) with the Persian gold also expected them to win. Once the Persians win and conquer Sparta, his gold would be the only valid currency in the region and he'd be rich.
Yup. The point was that until the Persians conquer the region the money cannot be spent at all. So if he wasn't spending it maybe it was for safekeeping? Except it makes no sense that the coins would somehow be "safer" on his person than in some kind of secret hiding place in his home. If he needed to immediately give proof of his identity as a spy to the Persians he could just keep a few coins on him. So if it's not for spending, safety, or identity, then... why on Earth is he carrying around a large pouch of Persian coins?
He's carrying it so that we as viewers can see him die with the gold all over him as a symbol of his betrayal and greed. There's no logic to it as far as the story is concerned. It's just a more stylized way of offing him, in true comic book fashion.
Actually, Leonidas does offer Ephialtes a position near the rear, to help tend to the wounded and so on, but Ephialtes wanted to be near the front of the fight. That's why he turned him down.
Last i checked, this film was adapted by a graphic novel by Frank Miller. It by no intends to be "historically accurate" Hollywood has no interest in creating films that are historically accurate if it sacrifices the entertainment value of the film. If they did, the theathre seats would be empty. If you want accuracy, read a history book.
I’ll take slow motion over fast closeup cuts and shaky cam any day.
I'd just like action scenes with minimal cutting; basically Korean, Chinese and Philippines movies.
Alexis Cou I’m not familiar with his other movies.
@@thepickygamer4450 Are you like squeamish or something?
Slow motion is fine, but if you're beating a physical dead horse with another physical dead horse to beat the dead horse idiom, then it's way too fucking much.
CinemaSins: Lionid-ass!
Lionidas: Someone keep saying that to me cause I have a flat-ass
"TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!"
(Takes out cellphone)
"Yeah? I'd like to order for tonight. Table for three hundred. Yes? Allergies? Hang on a second."
(Puts phone on hold)
"Does any of you have allergies?"
"Yeah, I'm allergic to dairy products."
"THROW HIM OFF THE CLIFF!"
(Back on the phone)
"As I was saying, table for two hundred ninety nine..."
Lmao
Brilliant
+ZorotheGallade No allergies allowed because THIS. IS. SPARTAAA
lol this is high larious
*Hands you a medal* You deserve this.
The double flute is called a diablus and it was a real thing
Dont bother bro, stupid comments is his main source for videos
@@billbill997 Poor bitter Billy 😥
@@Jenacide pardon?
Exactly. I was gonna type that.
It's still gay
5:27 you asked how he got his spear back but at 5:16 it shows one of the Spartans handing him his spear
Go away
@@myman8336 Shut up bobby
@@sassysasquatch4096
You're insulting a miner
I checket that. At that time he had short sword.
Bobby Little stfrigu
Well, that whole "dead body fetish" actually had a point. Spartans actually used to use dead enemies to build walls or monuments, not because a dead body is as good as cement, but because if a enemy see that, 80% of the times he will be too creeped out to fight properly.
See: Vlad the Impaler and his forest of impaled citizens. Dahm effective
You would be suprised man.The guy who makes these vids mostly tells his opinion rather than what is actually "wrong" or inaccurate in movies.
I'm subbed to this guy only to truly lmfao to his stupidity and what he considers "wrong" xD
Entraya Korsbakke
Vlad the impaler only impaled Turks and traitors most of the stories about him are exaggerated.
dkmorbid otaku wouldent call it wrong but he seems to point out things that most pople tend to miss or even consider if it was their first time watching the movie
You would be surprised at how much history that is taken as fact is nothing more then embellished stories from a victorious army.
By the way, that "random dagger" on the battlefield Leonidas stabs the eye out of the Immortal beast with is actually the spear tip broken off from a little earlier in the scene when his spear is snapped.
Everything Wrong With Everything Wrong With 300 In 10 Minutes Or Less in 4 Paragraphs Or Less
In regards to the whole "who's guarding the Hot Gates right now?" bit, Thermopylae (the pass at which this battle took place) consists of a narrow cliff edge (you could maybe fit 100 men abreast) with a mountainside to one side and the ocean to the other, the "Hot Gates" is the smaller canyon where the Spartans were first fighting against the Persian lemming charge. The scene where the Spartans fight the Immortals at night with the big body wall further ahead of the Hot Gates, I.E. they ARE guarding the Hot Gates, given that they are between the Persians and it. Also the body wall in this scene is not the same stone & body wall from before (whip guy scene). Not trying to defend the movie, but come on, all you had to do was pay a little bit of attention to the surrounding area and how the battle progressed to get a concept of what was going on.
Also, nit-pick here, Leonidas stabbed the guy in the eye with a spear tip, not a dagger.
As far as the Persians not attacking at night... you really don't ever do that. Do you have any idea how confusing a battle is? Especially a battle that's hand to hand? Now add on top of that having to do it at night. For fuck's sake, it took hours just to get men into formation back then, and that's using the Roman army as an example, who, unlike the Persians, were professional soldiers, trained and drilled so they could do those things as quickly and orderly as possible. Night was for sleeping, licking your wounds, planning and gathering the dead.
The bit about the Rhino. Okay, lets take a step back and step into someone else's shoes for a moment. Imagine you are a Greek soldier, you've probably never left your city, or at best, about 100 miles around Greece in your entire life. All you've ever seen, as far as animals, have been horses, sheep, cows, maybe some wolves. Now, imagine a giant, hulking grey beast with HUGE FUCKING HORNS barreling towards you. Rhinos and Elephants are the closest things to fighting actual real-life monsters you can get. Do you know what they use to kills Elephants and Rhinos? Guns... BIG fucking guns. Guns strong enough to penetrate 3 inches of steel plate. You only get one shot, and if you miss, or you only injure them, you're dead. Now, try to kill a Rhino or an Elephant with a spear... good luck with that.
"Were you supposed to take drugs before watching this movie?" I did... didn't you?
Well Hanibal let one of his prisioners fight, to get his freedom vack (with i think a sword and spear or just an sword dont remember anymore) against an Elephant 1v1 and he won. So yeah u have to be pretty badass to take an War Elephant at a 1 v 1
Bob Builder
Big posts require big proof-reading.
Ok theres is almost no one who will right all that. Is there?
Not to mention beating kids and and the "diaper" thing in the beginning was indeed a part of the hellish Spartan training; but the diaper thing was needed as in real life they mainly trained nude (but we can't really have nude kids on the big screen now can we?). I agree with just about everything you said, some of these vids are done without previous historical knowledge (if a historical move) or prior knowledge of plots moves were based off of (comics or books).
One small nitpick: Double flute guy? Really? I'm really starting to get the sense the guy who makes these vids never took the liberty to read about ancient Greek civilization or Spartan culture.
you talking to me because i mean the comment and of how long it is lol sorry
He should’ve removed a sin when
He said "THIS IS SPARTA!"
I would add 20 sins for the impact on MMOs this line had on them in zone chat.
This was before they started removing sins.
And the flute
And "TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL". Still reiterate that before every work shift..
shitty movie and shitty quote, now in the dumpsters of history.
One sin for "Xerxes declares himself a God even though he'd be cast out for heresy in Person religion of Zoroastiasm
Fraser Souris Yeah, they seem to have gotten divine right to rule confused with being a god.
@@raynes6286 exactly! They were monotheists! None of them called themselves God because that would be sacrilege in Zoroastrianism aka Mazda Yasna.
Spartans not wearing armors. +4000 sins
Slaves and threats of slavery in the Persian Empire +8000
LMAOOOO
They were too badass to wear armor.
@Kevin O'Connor But didn't the spartans carry bronze armour, with 8 packs on them?
@@owo1744 no one really knows, it's fairly likely that they did
Cause in sin #63, this is exactly what the Persian army did. And it wasn't just the Spartans.
A force of over 7000 Greek-mixed-with-Spartans marched to block the pass at Thermopylae (led by Leonidas).
After two days, the local Ephialtes of Trachis (not a hunchback/deformed dude, but just a loner goat farmer) betrayed the Greeks, showing a flanking path available to pass the forces. After the second day of fighting, Leonidas was aware of being flanked by this betrayal, and ordered a bulk of the forces to retreat.
What remained was approximately 300 Spartans, 700 Thespians (from Thespiae, not actors), and 400 Thebans (give or take a few hundred total... old records aren't exact, after all).
So they had around 1500 soldiers to defend against 150,000 Persians or so. Most died and they lost the pass, but it was a morale victory for the Greeks, a big motivator to fight for their country and those who sacrificed themselves to hold the pass for the others.
The decisive battle happened at Salamis, where Xerxes was forced to withdraw his armies, fearing being trapped in the European area.
Oh, and Xerxes I... never showed up at the front lines, never thought himself or asked others to consider him a god (he was just grandson of the founder of the empire, and first son born while Darius I was king). He was invading Greece primarily as retaliation to the defeat of his father at the Battle of Marathon, but secondarily because they strongly believed in a "one king for one people" kind of system. Xerxes was later assassinated by Artabanus
Anyway Mardonius was left behind to try and finish the Persian invasion, where they were beaten again at the Battle of Plataea, which essentially ended the Persian invasion.
Remember, this version of 300 is about as accurate and realistic as Sin City - it's based on a graphic novel after all.
There will always be speculation and exaggeration about what actually happened, since it was so long ago without any methodical or exact ways of recording events like this.
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Way to tell it. To the nay sayers, it is after all just a movie, they never said it was exactly what happened. Good job pointing out most of the facts about the battles.
K
very interesting.
There's also a rather interesting note about the Battle of Thermopylae, and that is the Greeks didn't leave the pass completely unguarded like is commonly thought. They did have a force of Phoetians guarding the pass. However, when they saw Persian forces advancing, they thought they were coming to engage them and redeployed to a nearby hill. The Persians merely shot a volley of arrows at them, then continued advancing past them.
Ends with 88 sins...
Me: Not that many, dang!
CinemaSins: Slow Motion Round!
Me: Oh...
Is the “oh” in your comment also in slow motion, or is it just a regular “oh”?
I loled at that sequence 😂
In reference to the sin about how every spartan had to go through the agoge It's something of note because The Kings of Sparta didn't go through the Agoge Leonidas was the distant relative of one of the kings who died shortly before the 2nd Greco-persian war. As he had already gone through the Agoge again something that the kings didn't do, this made him one of the few Warrior Kings of Sparta.
Justin Willett Thankyou. Just the comment i was lookkng for
Don't confuse this movie with logic.
“Distant relative” he was Cleomenes I half brother dude....
Justin Willett Interesting, the movie in no way makes this clear enough though
Sparta was famous for having 2 kings: political at home and warrior one the field, and neither could trump the other unless the other was dead
The two flutes are authentic strangely enough, there are plenty of depictions of it in Ancient Greek art.
Yep, it's an aulos! Basically an oboe but there's two of them, and by all accounts they make a terrible noise.
Just to clarify, the double flute is called diaulos, aulos is just the one flute.
7thPendulum Oh ok, that's not what we were told by our Classics lecturer? But it sounds about right
aim-to-misbehave your teacher doesnt know jackshit!!! Now go tell the principal so she/he can finnaly get fired!
Angel Fox I highly doubt that complaining to a non-existent principal will get a university lecturer and department director fired 😂 and if the only mistake they've made in almost two decades of lecturing is messing up the Greek terms for single vs double flute I'm pretty impressed
You know, for as many coin sounds as I heard in the slow-motion montage, once we got to ninety-nine, I was expecting to hear 1-Up sounds.
The slow-mo round basically showed the whole movie.
CinemaSins gets plus one sin for missing the opportunity to say king-a-ling instead of ding-a-ling
Sean Bean a pun fit for a king
Seen bean, I'm contacting the police
Sean Bean your just jealous cause you were killed early on in Game of Thrones.
My computer actually froze during that slow-motion montage.
One of the many curious things about this movie is the way the director chose to depict Persians as looking and dressing like highly romanticized African Moors. Based on vase art from the 6th and 5th centuries BCE, the the physiognomy of Persians and Greeks is essentially the same.
*****
What am I talking about? I'm saying that the Persians were made to look like fanciful representations of African Moors, and did not resemble, either in clothing or physiognomy, the Indo-Iranian branch of the greater Indo-European peoples that occupied modern Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran during the 6th and 5th centuries. Hoped that cleared it up for you.
Art Moss I wouldn't bother explaining yourself, he seems to be the nationalist Greek type.
Preston Campbell
Yeah, there's definitely something odd about his response.
yup cause knowing history and recent studies means nationalist Greek type! nice thinking guys good job!
***** Its funny because literally nothing you said was historically accurate. If you knew your history you'd realise that Iranians and Greeks share a very long history together, hell a good portion of Persian empires were Hellenistic in nature (I.e The Seleucid Empire).
Besides, human genealogy shows that Indo-Iranians (Aryans) are very similar to Europeans.
i’ve never hated a bonus round more in my life. that’s like 5 minutes of dinging that i won’t get back in my life 😂
I just skipped it
Yh I had to mute that shit 🤣
I muted it
Transformers: Age Of Extinction has two bonus rounds in Part 2.
That's the point---300 is quite literally "Slo-mo the Movie"
The flute guy is historically accurate too... One the few accurate things
Apparently the quote “we dine in hell” was accurate as well, although the real Leonidas would’ve said Hades
Hi, ancient civilizations historian here - this is one of the most historically accurate movie I've ever seen. It's pulled directly from Book 7 of Herodotus' Histories.
@@laurajohnson833lol you’re clearly not a historian then cuz it’s exaggerated in a lot of things
No matter what people say or how historically accurate it is, this is a Bad ass movie!
its based off a comic book...
Nobby Nobbs ...and?
Guess you dont enjoy many movies then.
The movie is not serious by any meaning, it is extremely inaccurate and overedited on purpose, to make it look more like an actual comic (Since the movie is based off a comic). If you want to watch a movie about (more or less) real antique battles, then this is like the worst movie to watch. Someone else here in the comments mentioned Kill Bill, a grotesque, and for me thats a pretty fitting comparison. The action is (if you want realistic fights) complete BS, but if you ignore this fact its awesome. Just like 300!, i love the movie, even thought i also love movies that try to be as accurate as possible in such antique battles, like Ben Hur. Just completly different genres, that just share the theme.
Its kind of accurate the monsters where the only inaccurate stuff yes babys were killed if they cried at birth and they were beaten up so they resist pain
Fact is nobody was alive now that was alive then so nobody really knows what the fuck happened
I think the "How does the narrator have any idea what happened after Leonidas sent him home?" bit is actually the whole point of the movie. He doesn't. He's makin' shit up to inspire the army he's leading into the next battle.
Stupid excuse...
Who screen glitching or is it just me
Same
Mr Povey same mine was to
Ya
Me
Whoever edits the videos is fucking with us.
Damn didn't realize there were soooo many slow motion scenes
Also add another sin for them making xerxes look like a gay stripper 😂
Says 10 minutes or less, takes 14 minutes
+Peyton Price The sinning itself, not including the bonus round, takes 10 minutes or less.
angelit161 the last 10 second made me lol
this silly movie has no historic accuracy. persians are depicted as monsters from Diablo II. in any way, shape or form they looked like this.
He's white. He's a Brazillian white actor.
These "Everything Wrong With /.../" series are great. But they do just want me to re-watch these films again.
Because most of the films are enjoyable, regardless what seems to be wrong with them.. :)
"We are not reviewers, we are assholes"
-CinemaSins
No movie is without sin but there are still obviously movies that are good, just cause it has problems doesn't make it bad.
Andres That has got to be the single greatest quote I have ever read XD
Also,another sin you can add,No Blood on the swords after killing Persians
They were taught by levi
+Prince Vegeta Hey Vegeta how's it going.
+Prince Vegeta Spartans are pathetic compared to the saiyans even raditz would own Sparta and kill everyone in their
warrior 2000 indeed Saiyans are the dominant race
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Wait you sinned the “double flute guy” even though that was actually a thing in Ancient Greece? Pretty sure they’re not flutes either...
Sin 8: It was special in that most Spartan kings did not go through the Agoge. Since Leonidas was not the firstborn in the ruling house, he had to go through the hardcore Spartan education, but ended up becoming a King anyway, which was very unusual.
Cool to know thanks!
No problem
you just helped me in history class dude
No problem (?)
you seem to know your shit
Even if the coins were Persian, they were still gold, and he could have melted them down & used the gold alone.
Why didn't the persians just give him gold? They've got plenty of gold chains and stuff
***** So they gave him coins that would lead to his arrest if traced back to him?
Xeokym Try spending gold in Sparta, it'd be worthless. You'd have to flee the city to spend it.
sam raynes But if you melted it down... why would it be worhtless? I mean it still might alert someone if you were spending unmarked gold or something, but it wouldn't be _worthless_
Xeokym In Sparta it's officially of no value, they use worthless iron rods as currency as these are hard to accumulate and almost impossible to take from someone. So gold would have to be spent carefully or not al all. The Spartans also had little interest in luxuries so such items were rare and looked down on. Best just to leave the city if you had any interest in being wealthy or living a lavish life.
Anyone else like how the bonus round was practically a montage of the entire movie?
1:41 you’re seriously not gonna sin that MASSIVE moon that looks like it’s about to collide into earth?!
Lol didn’t notice that watching the movie
This channel is satirical comedy and they even make fun of themselves and yet people still post comments all over it complaining that they're nitpicking and they're shitty at criticism.
Who cares? They already showed how much they care about people who can't understand sarcasm *(everything wrong with cinemasins video)*. If people want to waste their times being idiots let them.
***** I was referring to that video anyway just saying
*minor nitpick this channel puts its videos in the "Film & Animation" category, not "Comedy"
TARDIS_Core and they explain why
Kami K I know that, however others may not, and it is fair to point that minor fact out.
Lost it at "All of Sparta can see the king's ding-a-ling"
Rebu Ekirts
think he means he start laughing..
***** I don't understand how this is the first time anyones made a Tropic Thunder reference on UA-cam that I've seen... I'm on this site daily!
i laughed because the entire movie is in slow motion
I laughed because the entire movie is a Sin
DDDiiiddd yyyooouuu lllaaauuuggghhh iiinnn sssllloooww mmmoootttiiiooonnn???
Eli Q
Anonymous; aren't you glad you didn't grow up in ancient Sparta?
David Lucey but slowmo sex
i actually found this movie to be good. but ya they used a lot of slowmotion
-The army we will be fighting can block the sun with arrows
-Oh that's good I can tell my army that we will be fighting in the shade
That is a real sentence that the spartans said in the war
Must be true now that you've said it
@@jminkvihubyb LOOOL
@@jminkvihubyb exactly the point i was going to make
@@7swordfighter that's a word, not a term.
In umbra igitur pugnabimus
Damn, that slow-motion bonus round was like watching the entire film from beginning to the end.
was thinking the same thing XD
Just a hunch, and this is probably too complicated and might still be a sin, but maybe the councilman was paid in Persian currency because he expected Sparta to be overtaken by Persia, and after that then any Spartan currency would be worthless
+Austin Dwyer that is probably what I would think
+Austin Dwyer Sparta was a communist city-state, and didn't have currency at this point
Right, I'm saying it seems like coins would be worthless to him so why would he need them?
+Austin Dwyer indeed it is stupid that he's carrying them around, but the whole "Persian currency vs. Spartan currency" is quite redundant, since gold is a material easily recycled with minimal loss. So with a basic furnace you could just melt the coins down and sell them for face value, which at that time was more or less the same as the coin's monetary worth. Unlike today when money has some made-up fake worth.
yo bro man I like your videos I just don't understand with the decisions I did I don't know what they really
How did he get his spear back?? That's impossible. How do we even know it's his spear at all? Cause there's no way he could pick up a different spear. I mean he is the only one that had a spear right??
No, Spartans carried two long spears and a short sword.
+IllOrange24 So...Toshiie Maeda.
+ZorotheGallade Hm?
IllOrange24
A character from the Samurai Warriors franchise. He fights with two long spears and a short sword at the same time.
Or another soldier simply handed his King another spear. Mystery solved
other things the movie got wrong about Sparta, Sparta actually had 2 ruling families and 2 kings not 1, While the Kings of Sparta had virtually no power in writing law or policy (serving mostly as the spiritual and moral leaders) they did have absolute authority over the military and to declare war, the Spartans had no problems with slavery they had lots and lots of slaves the "Helots" (accounts range from 3-10 Helots to Spartans, their slave population outnumbered the citizens by 3x-10x) the government of Sparta was remarkably uncorrupted since the Ephors who wrote the law only served for 1 year and could not be re-elected and before a law was passed every citizen was allowed to vote on it, and the Gerousia only had the power to veto laws and act as a Jury in court. The women of sparta owned pretty much everything, because of spartan property law when you died your spouse got all your money and property and since all the men were conscripted to the army for 10-15 years, the male mortality rate was high and it wasn't uncommon for a woman to have 4-5 husbands before she died so the women ended up with most of the wealth
Yay!
bruh this is awesome
I remember reading about the events of this war on my History book..specially the part of the hunchback and the giant orc-like people, yeah
*"TONIGHT! WE DINE IN HELL!"*
"So, Olive Garden, then?"
Tomorrow, I'm thinking Arby's.
I think applebees sounds good
No,no definitely Denny's
I like there chicken and dumpling soup
Only Hell i can think of is Amy's Baking Company
That slow motion...
Holy shit.
Lmfaoooooo I thought you were joking about the slow-motion thing
a movie about greeks casts mainly irish scotts and narrotor speaks with an irish accent
yeah cause every movie you see from ancient times, talk of course in greek, or in hebreus or in whatever fucking language .-.
It's a form of a trope called the Queen's Latin. Google it
War Doesn´t matter ... the movies are (almost) always talked in the language of the country it is made. So it is stupid to point out that the language or the accent is "wrong"
+Andre Moya I think you responded to the wrong person. I'm not the one complaining about the trope
War Ohh I thought you were answering to me lol
I think Screen Junkies said it best: This movie is a faithful adaptation of a nostalgia-driven graphic novelization of an old movie based on ancient Greek propaganda of a real battle.
LMAO, nothing faithful about it.
@@saeedvazirianlol everything faithful about it just stfu
4:45 I think that's the entire point of the movie. The 300 win all these fights because they are coordinated and skill whereas the Persians aren't...
The thing is that battles in the ancient world didn't happen the way they show in the movie. The most popular formation at the time, which would be familiar to BOTH the Greeks AND the Persians, was the phalanx, which wasn't based off personal heroics. Thermopylae was chosen as the battle ground because the Persians couldn't use the one of the most important parts of their army, cavalry, to flank the ends of the Greek phalanx, which also featured around 3000-7000 Greeks from other city-states, possibly Thebes before they betrayed the rest of Greece and sided with the Persians. Considering the Greeks had the upper hand with their battlefield, and were well defended on the front lines by well-armed hoplites, it made sense they managed to hold the pass for 3 days. Also, the Greeks would've had with them light foot soldiers, probably on wearing a tunic and cloth hat, with a shield and light spear, as well as slingers, which would've served as distance troops.
SirAnthonyChirpsALot I think it's stupid too but I'm just saying that's what I think they're trying to show here.
It would actually take a ton of coordination to never attack someone with more than one guy
SirAnthonyChirpsALot So true, so true,
Also I'd like to point out, while not really important, the so called "Immortals" are widely considered to have actually be called "Companions" - the Persian word for Immortal and Companion are really close, and likely a mistake made in Koiné translations.
I can't remember the exact words for each, but I'm sure it's easy to find.
But it makes sense, since Companions was the predominant form of elite warriors.
Yes, I've heard that too. Since our only record of Immortals comes from Herodotus, a man know for exaggeration, even for his time, it is believed that he made a mistake in the Persian translation, or his translator said companion, but the Greek word for companion sounds similar to immortal, I can't remember which.
At 6:07 Xerxes has guards with bow & arrows pointing down at Leonidas
1:40 you're seriously not gonna sin that GIGANTIC moon that looks like its about to collide with earth??
2500 years in the past moon was much closer but sure not that close
@@zerordie4529
About a few metres closer maybe.
Which moon
Legend of leonidas: ocarina of time
@@Matthew-wl8tk i see what you did there
You missed the point in some of these, the reason for the Goat guy for example and the exxagerated death/blood/bodies is because this whole movie is a story told at a campfire, legends are all exxagerated, of course there are no goatmen and monster people and oracles and whatnot in real life but this is an ancient legend told by men which gets more extreme after every time it's told, the movie is meant to depict that. As well as how great Leonidas was so ofc it focuses on Leonidas and not the others, also the lone survivor actually is not there at the death of Leonidas so all that part is pure invention by his part, dunno his name anymore the one with the eyepatch...
Is that why everyone's shirtless in battle
Malchuk1
Spartan hoplites didn't wear all that much armor anyways, they used theirs shields + why else would you make 40+ actors get ripped with muscles if you ain't gonna show it...
+David Bodor It's based off of a comic book, not exxagerated stories
+Overused Meme
You have misunderstood. He's saying that everything we see in the film is actually being narrated by a character the entire time, and that this character is adding crazy embellishment, because this is all just a story the character is retelling.
+David Bodor actually they were covered in armour so it was nearly impossible for the weapons to penetrate the amour.
It's like I watched the entire movie during the bonus round.
This is the movie equivalent of when you need to make an essay with a minimum amount of words so you stretch out normal sentences
Beasts from the DARKEST corner of the Persian Empire, rhinos and elephants are from Africa; racism confirmed.
Some of Africa was part of Persian Empire though^
and you get elephants in asia !?
have you even made the empire of carpathia?
Saddam Hussein Syrian elephants still existed around then but went extinct hundreds of years later
Saddam Hussein Asia has elephants and rhino's dude, and the elephants in the film were Indian
did any one else notice how the bonus counter kept going even when he didn't cut to a new slow mo shot?
+Kaushik Harith yes
sin
They were different shots
+TheRealCrota different camera angles = different.shots
Sin inertia?
That slow mo counter just went on,and on, and on and on!
Gerad Butler: So how much badasss do you want me to be as Leonidas ?
Synder: Yes
greeks were not naked like Tarzan in battles
+hayder kanaan ... how do you know?
Sir 4 3dom by history
Yeah they were fully armored from head to toe.
heee like my profile picture
ikr, I was like "did they not have budget for armors?" I guess it is all eye candy xD
”TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!"
Person in very back: "What are we having? See, I'm going vegan, and Gerald here is on a paleo diet, so will there be tofu?"
Wait, uhh order some sparkling water I'm a bit thi... No no No WAAIIIT!
LOOOOOL
i read that with the hillbilly freind of trevor what's his name ? wade that's it , i read that with a countryfarm like accent idk why
I’m pretty sure none are vegan
The actors?
where did Leonidas get the apple
he is on a f***ing beach
DING!
+Shiny Milotic It was being used to pad his jock strap.
Shaden0040 why can I see that Leonidas's berries were protected his apple week
maybe just maybe.. his army brought supplies to the battle? I know today soldiers go to war without eating for days, but back then food was still needed? :S Also Apples dont rot as fast as other fruit, its easy to carry in bulk and its nurturing... but yeah next time we need a scene that explains how ppl eat, our imagination cant make that gap on our own....
What, no sin for CGI six-packs?
Seriously, dude, these guys couldn't practice military maneuvers because they had to do crunches all day long.
The movie wasnt about anything other than.promoting Crossfit
And
Planet Fitness memberships ...it worked lol
@@ryugahareame2994 Lol no maybe 5 had to follow strict rules. Butler had to follow strict rules. The rest were just on a casting call for 'buff ass extras'
David, Jealous much? 🤣🤣🤣
@@angelfox101 exactly
@@Harlow_Khmer Jealous of a six-pack? Heck, no, I have the whole keg! 😂
"Oh sh*t the camera man fell in after the Persians he was filming!" Holy shit that made me laugh, his voice is perfect
It should've been 87. The double flutes guy is historically accurate.
That doesn't mean it's not ridiculous which I'm pretty sure is why it's a sin.
so was the Rape of the Sabines, it was definitely a sin.
OK, first, there are people defending the movie because it's supposed to be cool regardless of historical accuracy. Now, we have someone defending some of it from being uncool on the grounds that it *is* historically accurate?
***** I didn't say the entire movie was "uncool," I said one obscure moment was kind of ridiculous, regardless of historical accuracy. I guess you think absolutely nothing that's ever actually happened is ridiculous just because it's "historically accurate?"
hedrack08 I didn't say you said the entire movie was "uncool"; I didn't even mention you.
Anyway, no, I never implied that historical accuracy keeps a weird moment from being a sin. I was pointing out how weird the idea of the two forms of defense coexisting is since only one can hold true.
This movie was so historically inaccurate it makes me cry
+Deltasquad382943 it is based on a comic book. not from historic sources.
MatiasFPM But it uses historical events.
yeah, but vaguely
+Deltasquad382943 And of all things,this is not a sin. This channel started as a good idea but you can just see how hard they are trying to cherry-pick stuff. They complain when something is normal for not being different and if it is different they complain for being out of place or uncreative or whatever. Honestly. Even the nostalgia critic is more honest than this
Nutritious butts They don't refer to the original content, that's why they say some things were uncreative.
He did not throw his only weapon at the immortal, as a Spartans shield is his most powerful weapon
Nerd alert
They also carry a sword with them as well.
"What about them? They're fresh!" XD
8:10. For Spartans, their shield was a weapon. A head strike with it is equivalent to the force of a 30mph car crash, focused on your skull. So he threw his sword, but his shield is perfectly capable of offense and defense.
ya, but that doesn't make it a good idea to throw your sword.
no its not and your facts are rubbish
I'm surprised they didn't mention that they had a beautiful testudo formation at the end there which could have been easily defended but somehow after leonidas tells his guy to kill the other guy and tickles xerxes with his spear, everyone decides to screw the formation and expose themselves to the arrows.
They were surrounded, from all flanks, is not like they had any place where to go. They were gonna get impaled by spears or arrows anyway.
Dai mon
still fails in their original goal to delay the persian's as long as possible
Well look at it another way the sacrifice of those Spartans was not unlike the Kamikaze's,they knew they would die as well(sacrificial lambs so to speak).Politically was smart as they where made into martyr's,not much unlike today(suicide bombers).
philosophicalreason still it is better to take out all of those persians, or as much as possible and come back a war hero potentially then to want to die.
Aexeiz Deuam They did delayed the Persian army for three days, and historically speaking they took a total of 10 thousand Persian troops. It's easy to judge from your seat and say "oh well they could have made an effort to last 5 more minutes".
They were facing men that wanted to kill them face to face, not to mention the physical demand of holding a shield plus injuries, plus their numbers were already down, by the third day, they weren't 300 anymore. They've done what no other warrior even today have done, they've killed thousands of soldiers none stop with their own hands, no guns, no grenades, with the odds against them. They surely were tired, they knew they weren't going anywhere, they made peace with that, they killed more than the quantity of men combined with Spartans and hoplites and other Athenian troops.
It's easy to say "only three days?" When all they did the whole three days was fight hand to hand watching their brothers fell, suffering and enduring injuries that most soldiers today wouldn't be able to withstand. This guys were fighting to the bitter end. Their formation could have lasted just a few more minutes, but no more than that, what was the point? They already took three days plus 10 thousand Persian troops. If you put one Spartan warrior today with a Navy seal or Green beret or Ranger or whatever, in a combat hand to hand, I'm quite sure the Spartan would win with out much effort.
I couldnt stop laughing as I watched this because my mind kept going back to the parody *Meet the Spartans* 😂 Anyone else remember that movie!?!?!😂😂😂
Yup
Was this a slow motion action flick, or really a porno with a really good budget?
Yes.
both
not really... ... maybe... it's clasified
yes
zxKAOS1 that be 300 rise
I love how the slow motion bonus round is basically the whole movie.
+1 sin to Cinemasins for not knowing how a phalanx works. The guys at the back of the phalanx are resting while they wait their turn to be at the front. A phalanx is designed such that the guys at the front are changed out regularly with the men behind them, either when they fall or grow tired from fighting, so that the unit itself can fight very efficiently for long periods of time. As such, the hunchback still would have been useless because he would present a clear weakness in the line when it was his turn at the front and expose himself and the guy next to him on his shield side.
wearealltubes +1
Hoplites are pre phalanx. Phillip of Macedon created the phalanx.
Nerd.
Frank the Greeks employed an early hoplite phalanx, not as organized and efficient as the Macedon phalanx but still something similar
they were also more heavily armored than the Macedons if I remember correctly but I'm sure that they didn't fight in loinclothes :)
"Just standing out here in a field, just in case someone wants to tell me my husband's dead." 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
This movie was meant to be exaggerated. The consumers, including me, wanted a bad ass movie, and this one delivers! I don't think anyone considers this an accurate historical depiction.
Well, it is based on a comic book so yeah.
I dont understand how ppl fail to see this point! We're supposed to be watching a bad ass comic-like movie arent we in the first place?
The problem is that some people actually do think that this movie has some historical value depicted within it.
However, I definitely agree that this movie was exaggerated in order to give the audience an action thriller.
yeah - who would think a movie based on the battle of Thermopylae depicting the East/West conflict would have any historical value in today's political climate….silly….what matters is it was really cool if you like watching naked men wearing mom's drapes spit and kill at will.
Basically, the whole movie is recounted by the guy with one eye, and he embellishes the story to make it seem more fantasy-like. That's why all the unrealistic stuff happens.
I still think it's a great movie. I'm a big fan of slowmo, I use it in almost every video. That much slomow is truely remarkable but that doesn't have to be a bad thing.
But I gotta admit, when I watched the movie I was like "why would he carry that money with him for no reason other to be revealed as a traitor?"
Because it was Wednesday and Wednesdays the whole senate goes to the strip- club after the meeting!
Because plot.
gold base system, its good every where!
It would have been a bit slow to show him being killed, than guards checking on his house finding the cash......
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*GET IT OUT OF MY HEAAAAAD!!*
Bada bing bada boom bada bing a da boom bada bing bada boom banga bingo ba boom
I still hear it to this day
It's funny cause "bading" means gay in my country.
@@dragooncavalier1354yeah
I'm from the Philippines
“Yeah, you showed those arrows whose boss, by the way, how did you get your spear back?” I was literally thinking the same thing when I watched the movie
Also i dont know if men in greek times shaved their chests or legs.
2:09 - Also, I doubt the women of Sparta had such well-manicured eyebrows or had access to expert makeup artists to apply their mascara, eye shadow and eye liner :) We know from the days of Cleopatra that crude makeup was available to royalty but I doubt it looked this good...after all, this takes place roughly 450 years before Cleopatra.
Actually they did shave. Xerxes had a spy watching them & they reported back that they were womanly, shaving & adorning themselves in scented oils. Little did Xerxes & his spy know thats how they prepared themselves for death. Had they known that, they would have known they were all willing to fight to the death. So yeah, the spartans did shave & cover themselves in oil before battle.
YOU MEAN THEY DID NOT HAVE NAIR. gOOD GOD
Alex, cleaning the thees was a thing in ancient time. But I don't know whether spartans did it.
Also where do you know that they aren't small?
I know that people where once smaller in average.
Spartans could been even smaller because of their hard training.
I don't know man, this might sound cheesy as fuck, but I love slow-motion... It just makes everything look more badass to me...
Yea but they kinda overused it for this movie.
Desmond Nguyen It's cool though, because like I said, it just makes shit look more badass to me, which made most of this movie more badass, when it probably wouldn't have been if not for the slow-motion. But everyone's different, you know?
So if its Leonids and his 300...doesn't that mean it should be called 301 lol.
the first 301 club
+The Deadpool. lol
it was actually 297
+nils gjersø there were actually anywhere from 5-6,000 Spartans, Leonidas sent them back except 300 to either preserve the military force or ensure his death because of the supposed telling of the oracle. Historians don't know the exact reason
BackYardProps WA I wrote wrong, I meant 299,we are always referring to the Spartans picked out by Leonidas himself, there was 2 of them taken out of battle because of blindness, one of them was led into the battle blind by his assistance and 1 taken back to Sparta, this one last spartan run later into the Persian army all alone to be killed so his daughters could marry
And, those other ones where sent back, Leonidas and his soldiers where alone
This is a battle of historical importance, there may have not been a vestian civilization without Leonidas and his few men
Part of me would like to see a serious historically accurate 300 film, but I honestly can’t imagine anyone other than Gerard Butler as Leonidas...
There'd be way more soldiers from other parts of Greece than just Sparta, and the movie would show the Spartans as less than super soldiers.
Under 14 minutes, I watched the entire movie!
The dual flute playing is accualy one of the few things they got right in the movie. Fual flute playing was traditional for greek music of the time, and it is very likely that they used marching musicians just like later civilisations did.
1+ Ancient greeks didn't believe in hell "TONIGHT WE DINE IN THE UNDERWORLD" sounds just badass if not more so.
***** TONIGHT WE DINE IN HADES!
Ynnojax +1 thats racist
shunkaha +1 your a douche bag
Space Monkey Nebula
obviously didnt get the joke
Well, they also didn't speak english. So I think translating "underworld" to "hell" is ok.
Its very hard to make this video
Nice work guys
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The reason the movie is focused on Leonidas was because was the bad ass king who led 300 warriors against an army of 1000's and died so the Greek states could have chance to get their stuff together and in doing so his name has never been forgotten.
Leonidass
Ely Stang you play game of thrones conquest
@@themiddlefingerisformyhate8465 no why
Actually around 700-900 spartans
Eric Moore yeah, Leonidas and his 300 (wouldn't that make 301 in total?)!!! Never mind the 7000 Greeks that assisted them... They don't matter, do they?
At 9:37 I totally wondered that myself every time I watched this- why say he has 300 behind him when there looks to be only around 50 at most left?
Maybe it's more symbolical to those who died. You know, still counting them out of honor.
Jean Le Flore yea I did think of that. That's the only possible explanation I guess, other than it being a mistake by the script writers lol
Wow you gave the bonus round some credit. No multipliers, just single +1s until the end
“Is this racist?, until someone tells me, I’m going to consider it racist” bahahahah 😂😂😂
Good lord that bonus round took FOREVER.
I know, like half of the movie... which is in slow mo
04:28 they are support, what leonidas told him to do, stay back and help
That's not the point. The point is hunchback coulda done that job. There was no reason to keep him out of the fight entirely.
J Parril he couldnt lift his shield so he's useless.
J Parril If the guys in back are needed up front, they can move up. The hunchback could never get on the front line, although he would have freed up one more soldier to go to the front, so....
Vlaka He was useless...in the Phalanx. Have him hang back. Once the Phalanx broke formation and started with the slow motion killing, have him run out and get killed so that he could have the honor of dying in battle. Then you don't have to worry about him fucking up the Phalanx.
tdylan
You're also forgetting the fact that he's not a Spartan
It's called Honor, that used to exist back then.
yes cause gold coins are worthless if they're not in your own currency. #cinemasinsSINS
It's the antiquity, so unless you happen to own a smelter, they are worthless. AND may get you arrested.
True, but clearly the Persians expected to win easily. The traitor (I forgot his name) with the Persian gold also expected them to win. Once the Persians win and conquer Sparta, his gold would be the only valid currency in the region and he'd be rich.
But why carry it and not hide it away until that happens?
Yup. The point was that until the Persians conquer the region the money cannot be spent at all. So if he wasn't spending it maybe it was for safekeeping? Except it makes no sense that the coins would somehow be "safer" on his person than in some kind of secret hiding place in his home. If he needed to immediately give proof of his identity as a spy to the Persians he could just keep a few coins on him. So if it's not for spending, safety, or identity, then... why on Earth is he carrying around a large pouch of Persian coins?
He's carrying it so that we as viewers can see him die with the gold all over him as a symbol of his betrayal and greed. There's no logic to it as far as the story is concerned. It's just a more stylized way of offing him, in true comic book fashion.
Persian in history been one of the most kindest empires
Film directors: yeah the world is not going to know you for that
Longest bonus round ever!
During the Slow-mo bonus round, I couldn't help but think "I am going to be here a while..."
Actually, Leonidas does offer Ephialtes a position near the rear, to help tend to the wounded and so on, but Ephialtes wanted to be near the front of the fight. That's why he turned him down.
No, he didn't....
Great editing skills.
Just as good as the editors of 300.
An even better question is how did the deformed guy survive in Sparta? Weren't the deformed babies thrown off a cliff?
Indeed they were; in actuality, Ephialtes (the deformed hunchback) was neither deformed, nor of Sparta. Yet another inaccuracy of this poor movie.
He clearly explains in the film that his father and mother fled sparta to save him -_-
Historically accurate' is not something that is present in 300.
Parker Tuindros
Well, there was a Sparta. And there was a Persia (empire). So they got those two things right. You can blame the rest on Frank Miller.
Last i checked, this film was adapted by a graphic novel by Frank Miller. It by no intends to be "historically accurate"
Hollywood has no interest in creating films that are historically accurate if it sacrifices the entertainment value of the film. If they did, the theathre seats would be empty.
If you want accuracy, read a history book.
Aaaaand fanboys get mad in the comment section. "I love when you make fun of movies! But how DARE you make fun of a movie that >I< enjoy?!"
Yeah, the comments in the Lord of the Rings videos were the best. It was a giant fanboy-nerd-rage-emo circle jerk.
Dont forget the dark knight rises comments
Or the Hunger Games!
Zack Sharief Yeah but the LotR ones were way, way worse than either of those.
3:30 um Attack on titan? P.S sorry if i spoiled it.
+xXRulesXx Whoa spoilers! :D Nice reference bro.
are you watching this video noob, and I play minecraft
+xXRulesXx I don;t get it, he used a rock to seal the wall
+Adam Doge Keep watching the series, you will understand.
Rush B I saw it all, I might have forgot. What episode?
Ubisoft needs to make Assassins Creed game out of this....
OH WAIT...
Yeah they are redey did
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what the fuck is srcsm lmao
@@rocklose1755 His heart is filled with hatred against vowels.
Nikola Peh They already did honey