HOW MUCH POWER DOES A TUNING BOX MAKE ON A MK8 GOLF R? [Tuning Box explanation & dyno graphs]
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2021
- Do you want more power from your MK8 Golf R? In this video we show you the RaceChip GTS Black, how it works and how much power it makes on our in-house MK8 Golf R project.
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Great video!! You explain exactly what a chipbox does and how. Im an owner of the new Gti Clubsport (300ps) and I’m considering to install a box..I wouldn’t wait for the unlock of the ecu and that because the Gti Clubsport is fwd..and the 30-40ps you gain from a box is more than enough so the car doesn’t lose its balance. On the other hand if i had the Golf R i would probably have waited for a ecu tuning, more gains and 4wd to support them..I can’t wait to see the review on the road. Cheers!!
Thanks for watching and your kind words. Great to hear that it was helpful. Driving video is coming in the next few weeks!
So these are piggy back tunes. It takes data from the measurement instruments on the car, and changes the values. The stock ECU adjusts and ends up making more power. It will say i'm not making enough boost and not running enough fuel, stock ecu demands more boost and fuel.
The issue with tricking the ECU is that you are removing safety limits that are designed into the car. If it was my car i would wait for a proper tune. APR for example adds a ton of additional measurement points on their test cars to tune the car like how the factory would. When manufacurers tune they take way more data points than what will be on the road car, and use formulas to estimate these values on the road cars. This works great as the formulas are based on actual measured values under fixed conditions. When you piggyback these formulas don't change, but you are changing the conditions.
And as for their "warranty" , I just read the exclusions. Lets just say they have tons of outs to void it and it only covers up to $7500.
Another really interesting video, It’s all about the road test, very interested to hear how it feels. Any concerns re potential damage fitting this to your car, as I believe it manages less variables than the likes of a JB4. Finally any timeframes on ECU unlocking.
Thanks for watching and the comment! Road test is coming up soon.
There are always risks with changing a car from stock, and before tuning you should be accepting of that increased risk. With the GTS Black, we didn’t mention it in the video but it comes with a warranty on the engine.
As far as we are aware there is no JB4 for this ECU
No timeframe yet, when it comes it’ll come. Usually what happens is all the tool makers that everyone within the industry uses will have an update, this will allow people to read and write to the ECU. At that point you’ll see lots of brands coming out with various tunes.
@@RegalAutosport roll on some APR or REVO tunes, imagine stage 1 will be knocking on the door of 400bph.
@@user-xl7yf7pc7k absolutely! This is just a small indication of its true potential!
Sounds like pretty reasonable gains in horse power and torque, definitely worth a punt in advance of the ecu being cracked 👍 looking forward to find out how it drives compared to stock 😎
That's our thoughts too! Get an extra bit of enjoyment out of the car between now and then!
@@RegalAutosport how much do you charge for installation / labour?
good video! Would the same racechip be valid for the cupra ateca 2021 gen 4 and for the cupra formentor vz?
Similar, yes! Would you like to order?
Wow this is the first time hearing that the mk8 can’t be tuned. I was waiting for someone to make a video on tuning this car but it obviously never came. Another great reason to not even think about buying this car
haha! It'll come
Great video, I bought the GTS Black after watching this video along with the XLR & haven’t even received the car yet. Could you please upload a video review on driving in mode 7 please, maybe even fit the XLR & compare that too…🤞
Nice one! Hope you enjoy
@@RegalAutosport Any idea when you may have time to review the drive with the GTS Black?
Here in the states. Will be riding this stock for a bit. Even out of the box this is a spicy kit. But after she’a broken I’m pumped to see how far this can be pushed
Awesome to hear! Enjoy your new ride
You got a mk8 R in the states. I can't find any dealer who even has a timeframe of shipments
@@mtDNA_Refresh I didn’t at first. Until I my obsession “problems” kicked in and I called 50+ dealers. This was a few weeks ago
Any plans on fitting some hardware to go with the tuning box?
We will be beginning some new hardware additions soon!
@regalautosport, what octane of fuel did you run the race chip during the dyno runs? I’m assuming you didn’t change any fuel.
We always run Shell V-Power
@@RegalAutosport 93 octane? I’m not sure what’s available across the pond.
I’m not sure what your exact equivalent is as you use a different rating system but usually the industry uses ‘93’ as a comparison, even that isn’t the true reflection though
thanks for the video. I also bought the gts, but not installed it yet .. I'm curious.
On a MK8R?
@@RegalAutosport yes 😉
@@Samako73 let us know what ya think!
@@RegalAutosport I'll be happy to do that, but it will take a while
So.. now i know the answer. The Dyno says..
Stock: 340 PS, 519.9 NM
With Race Chip: 359 PS, 566 NM
I'm happy with the result. Even if the promised horsepower figure was not achieved. Particurarly the Torque is Amazing.
Is the JB4 out yet for the Mk8 Golf R.
It sure is, the first production run is being made and they are sending one our way to test out!
I was expecting a bit more if I'm quite honest but it would be good to get some draggy times, 0-60, 20-70mph just to see what it's like on the road. Like someone else said, I have heard some bad things about the GTS.
A tuning box does have its limitations… it’ll never be as good as a proper ECU tune. Unless it’s a terrible one 😂
Draggy times are coming up!
What bad things have you heard? Share!
@@RegalAutosport That's very true, I thought more around the 375bhp with a tuning box but I guess the proof is in the dragy numbers. Will you be doing standard and with the box runs?
It's mainly how some have bought the Racechip and not noticed a big enough difference to warrant the £500 for it.
I did see a Ptronic tuning box from Belgium quoting 411bhp which I thought is a little optomistic!
@@RegalAutosport did you manage to get some draggy times?
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How do you mean?
What happens to your VW warranty is the engine goes Bang with one of these ?
It's best to speak to your warranty provider with regards to the specifics, although RaceChip do offer a warranty which you can also find out the specifics of by contacting them / visiting their website.
It’s out the window. Apparently BMW can detect if a car has had a tuning box fitted these days. So I would imagine VW would be similar as well.
I'd be concerned with longevity of the engine after installing this. It doesnt adjust timing. More boost could lead to piston detonation without proper timing advance.
Important world *could* but doesn't. If you're worried about your engine, it's best to keep the engine stock.
How to run on a 4wd dyno? Is there a dyno mode somewhere in the car or do you need a tool?
We have a tool that we can use to put it into dyno mode
@@RegalAutosport VCDS? Thanks for the reply very cool videos on the mk8
@@matt123roll B-FLASH
@@RegalAutosport 😬 thank you
@@RegalAutosport b flash say this isn’t possible yet very odd
The MK8’s engine is very similar to the MK7/7.5’s. I mean VERY similar. Minor changes to the turbo and internals, but overall, it’s practically the same.
That being said, a Stage 2 tune on a MK7/7.5 R takes it from 290hp crank to ~430hp crank. That’s a 140hp jump in just a software tune and downpipe. The MK8 R I would suspect to be in this same range of power (or even more like a 150-170hp crank jump) with a Stage 2 software tune and downpipe, BUT it needs to be a legitimate software tune, not the “tune box” junk.
On our dyno ECU, DSG software (or clutch if manual), good quality full intake, good quality exhaust and good quality intercooler will see around 410hp, bit shy of the hybrid turbo 430hp+ numbers you are talking about.
@@RegalAutosport I think you misunderstood. I’m talking crank up numbers, not whp. A hybrid IS38 turbo on a MK7/7.5 GTI/R will make 430+whp worth the same mods you mention above. That’s about 490hp at the crank. I made 358whp on my IS38 turbo taken from the Golf R on my MK7 GTI, which is about 410hp to the crank with my 6spd manual, and around 420hp crank for the DSG.
I would expect the crank hp to be more on the MK8 considering there are some engine upgrades, a larger stock turbo on it, and it starting off with more factory hp.
A hybrid turbo should be making well over 500hp to the crank on the MK8 because it already does on the MK7/7.5. We’re you referring to crank or whp numbers?
@@JacesOwnWorld We only talk about crank numbers too, but calculated crank numbers from the drivetrain losses. Not a random % added
how is the 0-100kph ?
No different
Will your factory warranty will be void for this?
You will need to discuss with your warranty provider
Would using the tuning box make a difference to the manufacturer's warranty?
It's best to speak to your warranty provider with regards to the specifics, although RaceChip do offer a warranty which you can also find out the specifics of by contacting them / visiting their website.
Of course it would.VW know how many golf R were remapped including mine.the map made a mile of difference to the standard car.
that is why VW have tried to stop us now getting into the ECU. if you don't thrash the arse out of it all of the time the car can easy cope with 400bhp,
dwain pipe sad
@@AA-kc5ce Dwain pipe no sad.dwain got better car now.happy!,
@@MrRonan3 thanks man.
Most people say that race chips are bad! Pretty impressive gains compared to a proper remap!
Interesting! I guess we’ll find out once we drive it
@@RegalAutosport wheres the video?
Fitted a racechip to a 2017 meagane I owned a few years ago absolutely no increase in power had it sent back to recalibrate still NO increase lost £100 as it was Fitted to car never buy one again very surprised the bhp increase .
Nice R tho
Sorry to hear of that experience, it seems like on the MK8R it works though 🤷♂️
It works on my fk8 . Loss traction on 2nd gear on WOT , how can that translate to ‘no power increase’ ?
I bought it through race chips direct had top guy look at box and two technicians obviously a faulty box but they wouldn't admit it....
@@stevenhadler9747 ok , i got mine bluespark. It does work, i can feel the difference but i didn’t bother to dyno it though.